Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000
Would only affect you for large file downloads that could go over 100 Mbps... Also if you had a hub you'd have a problem, but a switch is fine. Any recent router should have a gig port tho so you wouldn't be limited... BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of _ Winterlight Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:29 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000 That is what I thought and normally that wouldn't be a problem but Sparklite formally Cable One gives me 200+ down and 20 up. Not that I am aware of any web page that would serve out that kind of speed. From: Hardware on behalf of Julian Zottl Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:27 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000 On the LAN you’ll be a 1Gbps between all machines. Any connections to the internet will be at 100Mbps. Sent from my iThingy, but not in that iShortBus kind of way. > On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:58 PM, _ Winterlight wrote: > > If I use a router that has 4 10/100 ports and is only connected to a cable > modem plus a 10/100/1000 switch that feeds everything else on the LAN...will > the LAN members be able to transfer files between themselves at gigabit > speeds or will everything be choked by the router? >
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
Would the Circle device work if the device is a shared PC that's being used during the day for classes on Zoom but then by the parents later in the day...? -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:52 PM To: christopher.f...@thefisks.org Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blocking YouTube? We use a Disney Circle device to do both content filtering/blocking and time limits on internet access for our kids. You can do different profiles for each person and assign all their devices to their profile. Nice iOS/Android app for managing things and also has an app to control access on phones over LTE. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:10 PM Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > " I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the > night on YouTube." > > Well, that's your problem. Your problem isn't youtube, it's your > daughter staying up late! ( xyproblem.info ) > > Use a router with access controls and disable access for her MAC > addresses after bed time. > > That way your internet works fine, you don't have to do things that > she can work her way around. Your router just doesn't let her > machines connect to the internet during that time. > > DD-WRT has support for this built in: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki > .dd-wrt.com%2Fwiki%2Findex.php%2FParental_controldata=04%7C01%7C% > 7C18657d66864b4b7f71ae08d88c0c33cd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435% > 7C1%7C0%7C637413331321310893%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=t4J > vJtV%2F8NDcPX9JKGLB0FZeuFIQzVw%2F%2Fm4ycQ%2FsZLo%3Dreserved=0 > > > Is that more of what you're looking for? > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM Z00100 wrote: > > > > > > > > > So my question to you is why not? > > > > > > > > I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the > > night on YouTube. We can’t take the phone per se because she uses it > > as an alarm clock etc and the only safe place to ensure she doesn’t > > take it at night > is > > in our bedroom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM, > christopher.f...@thefisks.org)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not > > > following > > the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the > > rules seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. > > Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and > > determination to get it will be almost impossible without really > tightening > > down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their > > user account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the > > installed HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or > > running linux from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring > > the boot sequence > 2. > > Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so > jumpers > > can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked > > down > mode > > using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should > > set a > web > > proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so > > you > can > > block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to > > circumvent > the > > block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the > > whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone > > version of firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is > > insanely time consuming and will run into issues when you're trying > > to update the > > computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this > > and centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? > That > > seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able > > to install software and not being able to change the browser > > settings will > get > > the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal < > > binogo...@hotmail.com (mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> wrote: > So > > what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > > > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to > circumvent > > > any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first > > off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the > hosts > > file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new > > browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router > > outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- - Brian
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
Requires a RPi and installing software and hardware onto the network right? Looking for something simple for a NON-techie person as much as possible... BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of Z00100 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:06 AM To: Hardware Subject: Re: [H] Blocking YouTube? Pihole can be used. You can block the whole domain range. > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM, mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> > wrote: > > > > So what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when you’ve > got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to circumvent any > methods you use? Is it on the PC or on the network first off? On the PC would > UAC and an admin account and editing the hosts file be enough? Or fwd proxy > software for all browsers preventing new browser install? Or just do it with > filtering on the router outbound? How complicated do you need to get exactly? > Thanks in advance! BINO > >
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
Hehe, not MY kid; my friend's kid. He's watching YT while doing school Zooms (apparently) so she was just asking and I had some ideas, but I was basically looking for the simplest way to do it since she's not very techy... BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:44 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blocking YouTube? Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not following the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the rules seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and determination to get it will be almost impossible without really tightening down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their user account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the installed HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or running linux from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring the boot sequence 2. Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so jumpers can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked down mode using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should set a web proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so you can block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to circumvent the block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone version of firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is insanely time consuming and will run into issues when you're trying to update the computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this and centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? That seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able to install software and not being able to change the browser settings will get the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal wrote: > So what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to > circumvent any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the hosts file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > >
Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000
Hi, For this you would need a router with a gigabit wan port not just gigabit lan ports. On the higher end I would look at the ubiquiti dream machine. Lower end I would look at Asus and netgear. Harry On November 18, 2020 3:29:18 PM MST, _ Winterlight wrote: >That is what I thought and normally that wouldn't be a problem but >Sparklite formally Cable One gives me 200+ down and 20 up. Not that I >am aware of any web page that would serve out that kind of speed. > >From: Hardware on behalf of >Julian Zottl >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:27 PM >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000 > >On the LAN you’ll be a 1Gbps between all machines. Any connections to >the internet will be at 100Mbps. > >Sent from my iThingy, but not in that iShortBus kind of way. > >> On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:58 PM, _ Winterlight >wrote: >> >> If I use a router that has 4 10/100 ports and is only connected to a >cable modem plus a 10/100/1000 switch that feeds everything else on >the LAN...will the LAN members be able to transfer files between >themselves at gigabit speeds or will everything be choked by the >router? >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
I completely get the point. OP asked how and I knowing that a question like that has to be triggered, asked why. If you read beyond the first sentence you'd see I told him HOW to do it as well in the first post. Doing it through pi-hole is a possibility, but what happens when they install a VPN on their computer or phone and connect to a VPN that listens on port 80 somewhere on the web and proxy's past your pi-hole? On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 2:22 PM Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > You're not understanding the point. The OP asked how to block, but you > answered by why, so I am telling you why people do it. > > Anyways, I do it my way through pi-hole and it works perfectly. > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:10 PM Christopher Fisk < > christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > > > " I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night > on > > YouTube." > > > > Well, that's your problem. Your problem isn't youtube, it's your > daughter > > staying up late! ( xyproblem.info ) > > > > Use a router with access controls and disable access for her MAC > addresses > > after bed time. > > > > That way your internet works fine, you don't have to do things that she > can > > work her way around. Your router just doesn't let her machines connect > to > > the internet during that time. > > > > DD-WRT has support for this built in: > > https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Parental_control > > > > > > Is that more of what you're looking for? > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM Z00100 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my question to you is why not? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night > on > > > YouTube. We can’t take the phone per se because she uses it as an alarm > > > clock etc and the only safe place to ensure she doesn’t take it at > night > > is > > > in our bedroom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM, > > christopher.f...@thefisks.org)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not > following > > > the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the rules > > > seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. > > > Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and > > > determination to get it will be almost impossible without really > > tightening > > > down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their > user > > > account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the > installed > > > HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or running > linux > > > from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring the boot sequence > > 2. > > > Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so > > jumpers > > > can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked down > > mode > > > using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should set a > > web > > > proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so you > > can > > > block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to circumvent > > the > > > block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the > > > whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone version > of > > > firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is insanely time > > > consuming and will run into issues when you're trying to update the > > > computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this and > > > centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? > > That > > > seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able to > > > install software and not being able to change the browser settings will > > get > > > the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal < > > > binogo...@hotmail.com (mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> wrote: > So > > > what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > > > > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to > > circumvent > > > > any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first > > > off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the > > hosts > > > file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing > new > > > browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router > > > outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > > > Zulfiqar Naushad >
Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000
That is what I thought and normally that wouldn't be a problem but Sparklite formally Cable One gives me 200+ down and 20 up. Not that I am aware of any web page that would serve out that kind of speed. From: Hardware on behalf of Julian Zottl Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:27 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000 On the LAN you’ll be a 1Gbps between all machines. Any connections to the internet will be at 100Mbps. Sent from my iThingy, but not in that iShortBus kind of way. > On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:58 PM, _ Winterlight wrote: > > If I use a router that has 4 10/100 ports and is only connected to a cable > modem plus a 10/100/1000 switch that feeds everything else on the LAN...will > the LAN members be able to transfer files between themselves at gigabit > speeds or will everything be choked by the router? >
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
We use a Disney Circle device to do both content filtering/blocking and time limits on internet access for our kids. You can do different profiles for each person and assign all their devices to their profile. Nice iOS/Android app for managing things and also has an app to control access on phones over LTE. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:10 PM Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > " I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night on > YouTube." > > Well, that's your problem. Your problem isn't youtube, it's your daughter > staying up late! ( xyproblem.info ) > > Use a router with access controls and disable access for her MAC addresses > after bed time. > > That way your internet works fine, you don't have to do things that she can > work her way around. Your router just doesn't let her machines connect to > the internet during that time. > > DD-WRT has support for this built in: > https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Parental_control > > > Is that more of what you're looking for? > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM Z00100 wrote: > > > > > > > > > So my question to you is why not? > > > > > > > > I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night on > > YouTube. We can’t take the phone per se because she uses it as an alarm > > clock etc and the only safe place to ensure she doesn’t take it at night > is > > in our bedroom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM, > christopher.f...@thefisks.org)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not following > > the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the rules > > seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. > > Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and > > determination to get it will be almost impossible without really > tightening > > down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their user > > account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the installed > > HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or running linux > > from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring the boot sequence > 2. > > Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so > jumpers > > can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked down > mode > > using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should set a > web > > proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so you > can > > block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to circumvent > the > > block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the > > whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone version of > > firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is insanely time > > consuming and will run into issues when you're trying to update the > > computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this and > > centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? > That > > seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able to > > install software and not being able to change the browser settings will > get > > the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal < > > binogo...@hotmail.com (mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> wrote: > So > > what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > > > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to > circumvent > > > any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first > > off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the > hosts > > file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new > > browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router > > outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- - Brian
Re: [H] 10/100 or 1000
On the LAN you’ll be a 1Gbps between all machines. Any connections to the internet will be at 100Mbps. Sent from my iThingy, but not in that iShortBus kind of way. > On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:58 PM, _ Winterlight wrote: > > If I use a router that has 4 10/100 ports and is only connected to a cable > modem plus a 10/100/1000 switch that feeds everything else on the LAN...will > the LAN members be able to transfer files between themselves at gigabit > speeds or will everything be choked by the router? >
[H] 10/100 or 1000
If I use a router that has 4 10/100 ports and is only connected to a cable modem plus a 10/100/1000 switch that feeds everything else on the LAN...will the LAN members be able to transfer files between themselves at gigabit speeds or will everything be choked by the router?
Re: [H] Weird PC issue
To Bobby: Unfortunately not. I use normal HDD, no SSD or M2 SSD/NVME. I only noticed this slowdown in the launch of the application in the version Windows 2004 20H2/64 bit. In previous versions, everything was fine, normal. On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:36 PM Bobby Heid wrote: > Thanks Lubomir. Were you able to fix the issue? > > So, I replaced my non-boot SSD with a HDD. At first, all went well. From > within VideoRedo, the common dialog windows opened very fast. And, it did > not lock up for over 12 hours. But when I got up this morning, it was > locked up. > > The only drive I have not disabled/replaced is the M2 boot SSD. Do you > think this may be causing the issue? > > -Original Message- > From: Hardware On Behalf Of > Lubomír Cabla > Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 3:31 PM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue > > I have the same issue with VLC player. > > First time the delay is about 15 seconds, next run is without delay. > > After checking in the task manager (Details) I found out the cause: > > MsMpEngCP.exe and MsMpEng.exe > > They perform full control of the running program but only the first time. > > Maybe it will help you. > > Lubomir Cabla > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:22 PM Bobby Heid wrote: > > > Yes, it was good info. > > > > Latest update. I swapped the 5TB HDD out for a new 6TB HDD. No changes. > > I guess now I have lots more storage. > > > > Could this issue be with one of the SSDs? The Samsung Magician > > software says those are ok. > > > > Here is an odd thing that I noticed. Sometimes, when using my video > > editing software (VideoReDo TVSuite V6), I noticed when I do something > > that causes the app to open up the standard open file dialog, there > > can be a delay of between 5 and 20 seconds before the dialog window > > opens. Other times, it opens almost instantly. This kind of led me > > to believe that it may have been the HDD causing my issues. I would > > open a file from the HDD and set its output to the non-NVME SSD. > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Bobby > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Hardware On Behalf Of > > lopaka polena > > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:05 PM > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue > > > > Those were good recommendations from Joshua, never seen that info before. > > The drive I pulled passed every test, but had long pauses during some > > of them. I basically swapped everything that could be swapped during > > testing except my m2 SSD's, and when I swapped the 4TB seagate drive > > all the problems went away. Hopefully you luck out and find the culprit > too. > > > > lopaka > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:39 PM Bobby Heid wrote: > > > > > Thanks Joshua. > > > > > > I ran all of those except for the performance monitoring one and all > > > said OK. An interesting note - some of those tests do not show the > > > NVME SSD (Samsung 960 Pro SSD). > > > > > > I did buy a new 6TB HD to swap out for the 5TB one to see if that > > > may > > help. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Hardware On Behalf > > > Of Joshua MacCraw > > > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:27 PM > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue > > > > > > SMART testing comes to mind as well as checking the log for disk > > > related events. Found this tip, didn't know win10 did this directly > > > - > > > > > > https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-if-hard-drive-failing-smart > > > -w > > > indows-10 > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 2:24 PM Bobby Heid wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks. Could be on to something there. I will pursue looking at > > > > testing the drive. > > > > > > > > The locking up can happen whether it is recording or not. I was > > > > trying to demonstrate that I did not think processes were > > > > executing while it appeared locked up. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bobby > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Hardware On > > > > Behalf Of lopaka polena > > > > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:53 PM > > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > > Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC issue > > > > > > > > Strangely enough my bad drive passed chkdsk multiple times without > > > > one fail, so pulling it was a last ditch effect since I'd already > > > > swapped video card, RAM and power supply. > > > > > > > > lopaka > > > > > > > > < > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link > > > > tm _c ampaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon > > > > > > > > > Virus-free. > > > > www.avast.com > > > > < > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link > > > > tm _c ampaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link > > > > > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:45 PM Beave <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Try chkdsk on the drive the recording is going to. Could be an
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
You're not understanding the point. The OP asked how to block, but you answered by why, so I am telling you why people do it. Anyways, I do it my way through pi-hole and it works perfectly. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:10 PM Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > " I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night on > YouTube." > > Well, that's your problem. Your problem isn't youtube, it's your daughter > staying up late! ( xyproblem.info ) > > Use a router with access controls and disable access for her MAC addresses > after bed time. > > That way your internet works fine, you don't have to do things that she can > work her way around. Your router just doesn't let her machines connect to > the internet during that time. > > DD-WRT has support for this built in: > https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Parental_control > > > Is that more of what you're looking for? > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM Z00100 wrote: > > > > > > > > > So my question to you is why not? > > > > > > > > I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night on > > YouTube. We can’t take the phone per se because she uses it as an alarm > > clock etc and the only safe place to ensure she doesn’t take it at night > is > > in our bedroom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM, > christopher.f...@thefisks.org)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not following > > the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the rules > > seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. > > Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and > > determination to get it will be almost impossible without really > tightening > > down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their user > > account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the installed > > HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or running linux > > from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring the boot sequence > 2. > > Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so > jumpers > > can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked down > mode > > using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should set a > web > > proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so you > can > > block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to circumvent > the > > block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the > > whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone version of > > firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is insanely time > > consuming and will run into issues when you're trying to update the > > computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this and > > centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? > That > > seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able to > > install software and not being able to change the browser settings will > get > > the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal < > > binogo...@hotmail.com (mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> wrote: > So > > what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > > > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to > circumvent > > > any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first > > off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the > hosts > > file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new > > browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router > > outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
" I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night on YouTube." Well, that's your problem. Your problem isn't youtube, it's your daughter staying up late! ( xyproblem.info ) Use a router with access controls and disable access for her MAC addresses after bed time. That way your internet works fine, you don't have to do things that she can work her way around. Your router just doesn't let her machines connect to the internet during that time. DD-WRT has support for this built in: https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Parental_control Is that more of what you're looking for? On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM Z00100 wrote: > > > > So my question to you is why not? > > > > I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night on > YouTube. We can’t take the phone per se because she uses it as an alarm > clock etc and the only safe place to ensure she doesn’t take it at night is > in our bedroom. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM, christopher.f...@thefisks.org)> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not following > the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the rules > seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. > Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and > determination to get it will be almost impossible without really tightening > down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their user > account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the installed > HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or running linux > from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring the boot sequence 2. > Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so jumpers > can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked down mode > using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should set a web > proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so you can > block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to circumvent the > block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the > whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone version of > firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is insanely time > consuming and will run into issues when you're trying to update the > computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this and > centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? That > seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able to > install software and not being able to change the browser settings will get > the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal < > binogo...@hotmail.com (mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> wrote: > So > what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to circumvent > > any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first > off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the hosts > file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new > browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router > outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
So my question to you is why not? I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the night on YouTube. We can’t take the phone per se because she uses it as an alarm clock etc and the only safe place to ensure she doesn’t take it at night is in our bedroom. > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM, (mailto:christopher.f...@thefisks.org)> wrote: > > > > Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not following the > rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the rules seems > like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. Removing just > access to youtube for someone with computer skills and determination to get > it will be almost impossible without really tightening down things. 1. Remove > admin rights from the teenager's PC for their user account 2. Remove the > ability to boot from anything except the installed HDD (to prevent creation > of admin account through tools or running linux from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS > password after configuring the boot sequence 2. Teen might be able to reset > password, so seal the computer case so jumpers can't be touched 3. Setup > Chrome and all other browsers in locked down mode using either kiosk mode for > the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should set a web proxy server to a machine > running squid or other proxy software so you can block youtube there, as > well as track what they're doing to circumvent the block 4. Setup the PC so > they can't run anything that isn't on the whitelist of applications (so they > don't download a standalone version of firefox/chrome and get around your > lockdowns) 1. (This is insanely time consuming and will run into issues when > you're trying to update the computer) In a business environment you can do > the majority of this and centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. > Doing it at home? That seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, > not being able to install software and not being able to change the browser > settings will get the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal > mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> wrote: > So what’s > the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > you’ve got a > resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to circumvent > any methods > you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first off? > > On the > PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the hosts file be > enough? > Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new browser > install? > > > Or just do it with filtering on the router outbound? > > How > complicated do you need to get exactly? > > Thanks in advance! > > > BINO > > > >
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not following the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the rules seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and determination to get it will be almost impossible without really tightening down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their user account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the installed HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or running linux from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring the boot sequence 2. Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so jumpers can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked down mode using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should set a web proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so you can block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to circumvent the block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone version of firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is insanely time consuming and will run into issues when you're trying to update the computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this and centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? That seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able to install software and not being able to change the browser settings will get the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal wrote: > So what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to circumvent > any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the hosts file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > >
Re: [H] Blocking YouTube?
Pihole can be used. You can block the whole domain range. > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM, mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> > wrote: > > > > So what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when you’ve > got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to circumvent any > methods you use? Is it on the PC or on the network first off? On the PC would > UAC and an admin account and editing the hosts file be enough? Or fwd proxy > software for all browsers preventing new browser install? Or just do it with > filtering on the router outbound? How complicated do you need to get exactly? > Thanks in advance! BINO > >
