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WD Red have worked fine for me. I got a set of 4 and put into a raid. Had one keep dropping out of the RAID and failing to rebuild but it turned out to be a bad SATA cable rather than the drive. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Heck, your research is way behind. SSD's in NAS is a fact to my meager reads. True, any of the users are Linux-geeks that have 'dicked' with their NAS's OS (f/w), but still. I read it to mean that this is active ATM, if only on a limited scale. Way above my pay grade :) LOL! Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:02, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka __**__ From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka __**__ From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try
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Why does anyone need movies on a raid? That seems like overkill to me. If one of my drives crashes, it won't be the end of the world as I have all of the backups on optical. I just keep track of what is where so I can regen one as needed. But so far, after 24/7 use of nearly two years, no problems. Those drives are sleeping 99% of the time. :) On 9/20/2013 10:47 AM, Christopher Fisk wrote: WD Red have worked fine for me. I got a set of 4 and put into a raid. Had one keep dropping out of the RAID and failing to rebuild but it turned out to be a bad SATA cable rather than the drive. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Heck, your research is way behind. SSD's in NAS is a fact to my meager reads. True, any of the users are Linux-geeks that have 'dicked' with their NAS's OS (f/w), but still. I read it to mean that this is active ATM, if only on a limited scale. Way above my pay grade :) LOL! Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:02, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka __**__ From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka __**__ From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03
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The raid is for my ease of use. I'm ok over purchasing to save time when a drive fails just rebuilding rather than restoring. It also lets me just toss stuff on one drive letter instead of 4. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: Why does anyone need movies on a raid? That seems like overkill to me. If one of my drives crashes, it won't be the end of the world as I have all of the backups on optical. I just keep track of what is where so I can regen one as needed. But so far, after 24/7 use of nearly two years, no problems. Those drives are sleeping 99% of the time. :) On 9/20/2013 10:47 AM, Christopher Fisk wrote: WD Red have worked fine for me. I got a set of 4 and put into a raid. Had one keep dropping out of the RAID and failing to rebuild but it turned out to be a bad SATA cable rather than the drive. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Heck, your research is way behind. SSD's in NAS is a fact to my meager reads. True, any of the users are Linux-geeks that have 'dicked' with their NAS's OS (f/w), but still. I read it to mean that this is active ATM, if only on a limited scale. Way above my pay grade :) LOL! Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:02, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka ____ From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.comhardware@lists.** hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka ____ From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.comhardware@lists.** hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.* *com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain
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Good point. On 9/20/2013 6:32 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 03:58:26PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Why does anyone need movies on a raid? That seems like overkill to me. If one of my drives crashes, it won't be the end of the world as I have all of the backups on optical. I just keep track of what is where so I can regen one as needed. But so far, after 24/7 use of nearly two years, no problems. Those drives are sleeping 99% of the time. :) Hi, not all media is sourced from optical.
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On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 03:58:26PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Why does anyone need movies on a raid? That seems like overkill to me. If one of my drives crashes, it won't be the end of the world as I have all of the backups on optical. I just keep track of what is where so I can regen one as needed. But so far, after 24/7 use of nearly two years, no problems. Those drives are sleeping 99% of the time. :) Hi, not all media is sourced from optical. -- Bryan G. Seitz
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When my first ReadyNAS NV+ v1 had the catastrophic failure, I did have all or most of my movies on hard copies. I can say it took over 6 months to get everything back in digital format because I had to re-rip and stuff. Anything important (other than movies) is backed up to 2 different NAS setups so the likelihood of failure is small. On the drobo5n I probably have 9 TB's of movie files. Once I started doing blu-ray backups, filling up a NAS is easy. Some movies are 20GB's each. I like having stuff on raid and have been able to recuperate from 3 drive failures because of raid, without doing anything but popping the dead drive and and putting a new one in hot. System rebuilds and all is good. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Why does anyone need movies on a raid? That seems like overkill to me. If one of my drives crashes, it won't be the end of the world as I have all of the backups on optical. I just keep track of what is where so I can regen one as needed. But so far, after 24/7 use of nearly two years, no problems. Those drives are sleeping 99% of the time. :) On 9/20/2013 10:47 AM, Christopher Fisk wrote: WD Red have worked fine for me. I got a set of 4 and put into a raid. Had one keep dropping out of the RAID and failing to rebuild but it turned out to be a bad SATA cable rather than the drive. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Heck, your research is way behind. SSD's in NAS is a fact to my meager reads. True, any of the users are Linux-geeks that have 'dicked' with their NAS's OS (f/w), but still. I read it to mean that this is active ATM, if only on a limited scale. Way above my pay grade :) LOL! Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:02, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka __**__ From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka __**__ From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready
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Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and it had large capacity. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive units? Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there. Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also! Never mind... :) NAS ON Bro! Duncan On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and it had large capacity. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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Hey Bro, we ain't perfect. I do so understand. Duncan On 09/19/2013 15:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: The data loss my my fault on that that one. The UPS I was using was not compatible with the readynas and I knew it, so the unit lost power when the battery ran out. I have only used compatible Ps's since then and have made it through and handful of power outages. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive units? Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there. Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also! Never mind... :) NAS ON Bro! Duncan On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and it had large capacity. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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The data loss my my fault on that that one. The UPS I was using was not compatible with the readynas and I knew it, so the unit lost power when the battery ran out. I have only used compatible Ps's since then and have made it through and handful of power outages. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive units? Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there. Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also! Never mind... :) NAS ON Bro! Duncan On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and it had large capacity. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile
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That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September
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Heck, your research is way behind. SSD's in NAS is a fact to my meager reads. True, any of the users are Linux-geeks that have 'dicked' with their NAS's OS (f/w), but still. I read it to mean that this is active ATM, if only on a limited scale. Way above my pay grade :) LOL! Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:02, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka
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Ssds will take over one day. But not till they come down in price and much more capacity. The thought of a ssd nas makes me salivate. Lol. On Sep 20, 2013 1:02 AM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: This I truly understand. The ReadyNAS community is really active about, Can I replace my EMC HD's with bigger SSD's? I am watching these topics. And, I am now seeing NAS platforms that do now use SSD's. Sheesh! I have to admit I am getting old. Some of this stuff is way above me. But, I do see the push, and, I accept that it will come to pass. Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:01, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka __**__ From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka __**__ From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
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This I truly understand. The ReadyNAS community is really active about, Can I replace my EMC HD's with bigger SSD's? I am watching these topics. And, I am now seeing NAS platforms that do now use SSD's. Sheesh! I have to admit I am getting old. Some of this stuff is way above me. But, I do see the push, and, I accept that it will come to pass. Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:01, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q
[H] 3TB
I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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Wd red all the way. On Sep 19, 2013 12:16 AM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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I would highly suggest the WD RED drives. They are labled as NASWare; so I use them. Very quiet, relatively cool. Duncan On 09/18/2013 17:16, Winterlight wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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I forgot to mention that I've been using these 3tb drives for two years now. No problems yet. They do go to sleep a lot and I leave the machine on 24/7. On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
