[H] Android Dash Cam

[_ Winterlight]

I forgot to ask..  can anybody recommend a Android Dash Cam...preferably paid 
without adds

Re: [H] Android what am I not getting

[Al A]

I use a belt mounted case/holder.

Al

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:34 AM _ Winterlight 
wrote:

> I have a Android phone. I like to listen to news or Youtube videos while I
> work around the house. I wear headphones and put the phone in my pocket.
> Often when I move the pocket makes contact with the screen the video
> pauses, or turns off, or I load six different apps!  This can't be designed
> like this but I have googled and tried to figure out how I lock the screen
> without turning off what I am trying to listen to or work with. What am I
> missing? What am I doing wrong?  Thanks
> w
>

Re: [H] Android what am I not getting

[James Boswell]

Background playback is a youtube red/premium/whatever they're calling it
these days feature.
:(

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 03:34, _ Winterlight  wrote:

> I have a Android phone. I like to listen to news or Youtube videos while I
> work around the house. I wear headphones and put the phone in my pocket.
> Often when I move the pocket makes contact with the screen the video
> pauses, or turns off, or I load six different apps!  This can't be designed
> like this but I have googled and tried to figure out how I lock the screen
> without turning off what I am trying to listen to or work with. What am I
> missing? What am I doing wrong?  Thanks
> w
>

[H] Android what am I not getting

[_ Winterlight]

I have a Android phone. I like to listen to news or Youtube videos while I work 
around the house. I wear headphones and put the phone in my pocket. Often when 
I move the pocket makes contact with the screen the video pauses, or turns off, 
or I load six different apps!  This can't be designed like this but I have 
googled and tried to figure out how I lock the screen without turning off what 
I am trying to listen to or work with. What am I missing? What am I doing 
wrong?  Thanks
w

Re: [H] Android app?

[Winterlight]

nothing comes up in search for light flow?

At 12:01 PM 5/7/2018, you wrote:

Check out light flow on the play store.

It's pretty dope once you get it configured correctly.

Re: [H] Android app?

[Naushad Zulfiqar]

Check out light flow on the play store.

It's pretty dope once you get it configured correctly.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:02 PM Al A  wrote:

> I just got a G5+ myself. Very happy with it, but I upgraded from a 5 year
> old windows phone, so...
> Flash on call and SMS - search google store for it.
> HTH
> Al
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Winterlight 
> wrote:
>
> > I own a Moto G5Plus. I previously owned a G2. The G2 had a notification
> > blinking light... just like the old Razer. With the light I could just
> > glance at my phone to see if I had messages but now with the  G5>
> > I have to manually check it which is a huge inconvenient annoyance. It
> has
> > also caused me not to get my messages in a timely manner. So can anybody
> > recommend an app that will help me out? Thanks
> >
> >
>


-- 
Best Regards,


Zulfiqar Naushad

Re: [H] Android app?

[Al A]

I just got a G5+ myself. Very happy with it, but I upgraded from a 5 year
old windows phone, so...
Flash on call and SMS - search google store for it.
HTH
Al

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Winterlight 
wrote:

> I own a Moto G5Plus. I previously owned a G2. The G2 had a notification
> blinking light... just like the old Razer. With the light I could just
> glance at my phone to see if I had messages but now with the 
> I have to manually check it which is a huge inconvenient annoyance. It has
> also caused me not to get my messages in a timely manner. So can anybody
> recommend an app that will help me out? Thanks
>
>

[H] Android app?

[Winterlight]

I own a Moto G5Plus. I previously owned a G2. The G2 had a 
notification blinking light... just like the old Razer. With the 
light I could just glance at my phone to see if I had messages but 
now with the  I have to manually check it which is a 
huge inconvenient annoyance. It has also caused me not to get my 
messages in a timely manner. So can anybody recommend an app that 
will help me out? Thanks

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Al E. Gator]

The Nexus 10 has screen issues after playing movies for a couple of hours. The 
bottom of the screen would pixilate, freeze, turn odd colors. I got a refund 
from the seller and was told to not bother returning it. It does much better 
with a small fan running behind it; 12V case fan running on 5V, very quiet. 

Bought a Certified Refurbished Nexus 10 off Amazon, same problem right out of 
the box. Sent it back, got refund. So I have the original Nexus I bought to 
play with for free. Been flashing all the latest ROMs. Netflix app will not run 
on anything but stock ROMs; tried all the workarounds, but no joy.  Looking at 
other people’s tablets, the 2560 x 1600 resolution of the Nexus has me spoiled.
Waiting for: Teclast X98 Plus II Intel Cherry Trail X5 9.7 Inch IPS Dual Boot 
Tablet (http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybrzuqal) to arrive. Looking to dump the 
Windows side and run Linux; but there isn’t a Linux version with decent touch 
capabilities… 
Al E. Gator

From: Joshua MacCraw

How'd that tablet & keyboard work out? My 2ng gen Nexus 7's are all dying
eemc slow death and Pixel is still to damn expensive! ;)

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Joshua MacCraw]

How'd that tablet & keyboard work out? My 2ng gen Nexus 7's are all dying
eemc slow death and Pixel is still to damn expensive! ;)

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Al E. Gator <eight.bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I settled on the Nexus 10 for $100 on fleaBay. Rooted and flashed:
> Lineage OS 13 (lineage-13.0-20170617-nightly-manta-signed);
> Open GApps Micro (open_gapps-arm-6.0-micro-20170621);
> and TWRP Recovery (TWRP 3.0.2-0.)
> I found builds of Nougat for it but there are still some issues, like the
> camera doesn’t work.
>
> Now waiting for this to arrive:
> www.ebay.com/itm/CLEARANCE-Bluetooth-Keyboard-for-Google-
> Nexus-10-Silver-Black-/321635908985?
>
> Thanks for the responses.
> Al
>
> From: Jason Chue
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:21 AM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> If Nougat is required, then what about Nvidia Shield?
>
> On 26 Jun 2017 7:55 am, "Jim Maki" <jwm_maill...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Al,
> >
> > I own two and they have been updated to the 6.0.1 without issue. In the
> > past, the upgrade path has been fairly fast. Not sure about Nougat, 7.0.
> > Android seems to be more targeted to phones that tablets, right now. So
> for
> > the Nexus 10, it is wait and see for the next upgrades.
>
>

[H] Android Tablet Reccomendation

[Al E. Gator]

I’m pretty sure everyone here has heard of Synergy for controlling multiple 
pc’s with one KB/mouse;
I’m using Desk Dock to do the same with a win10 pc and the Nexus I just picked 
up. Works great.

http://fdmobileinventions.blogspot.com/p/deskdock-server.html
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48915118#post48915118
Java runtime
And 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.floriandraschbacher.deskdock.free=en

Will upgrade to the paid version for $5.49

Best,
Al

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Joe User]

Would you let us know what you think after you have used it awhile?
I'm curious...

On 7/14/2017 7:39 AM, Al E. Gator wrote:

I settled on the Nexus 10 for $100 on fleaBay. Rooted and flashed:
Lineage OS 13 (lineage-13.0-20170617-nightly-manta-signed);
Open GApps Micro (open_gapps-arm-6.0-micro-20170621);
and TWRP Recovery (TWRP 3.0.2-0.)
I found builds of Nougat for it but there are still some issues, like the 
camera doesn’t work.

Now waiting for this to arrive:
www.ebay.com/itm/CLEARANCE-Bluetooth-Keyboard-for-Google-Nexus-10-Silver-Black-/321635908985?

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Al E. Gator]

I settled on the Nexus 10 for $100 on fleaBay. Rooted and flashed: 
Lineage OS 13 (lineage-13.0-20170617-nightly-manta-signed); 
Open GApps Micro (open_gapps-arm-6.0-micro-20170621); 
and TWRP Recovery (TWRP 3.0.2-0.)
I found builds of Nougat for it but there are still some issues, like the 
camera doesn’t work.

Now waiting for this to arrive: 
www.ebay.com/itm/CLEARANCE-Bluetooth-Keyboard-for-Google-Nexus-10-Silver-Black-/321635908985?

Thanks for the responses.
Al

From: Jason Chue
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:21 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

If Nougat is required, then what about Nvidia Shield?

On 26 Jun 2017 7:55 am, "Jim Maki" <jwm_maill...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Al,
>
> I own two and they have been updated to the 6.0.1 without issue. In the
> past, the upgrade path has been fairly fast. Not sure about Nougat, 7.0.
> Android seems to be more targeted to phones that tablets, right now. So for
> the Nexus 10, it is wait and see for the next upgrades.

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Jason Chue]

If Nougat is required, then what about Nvidia Shield?

On 26 Jun 2017 7:55 am, "Jim Maki" <jwm_maill...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Al,
>
> I own two and they have been updated to the 6.0.1 without issue. In the
> past, the upgrade path has been fairly fast. Not sure about Nougat, 7.0.
> Android seems to be more targeted to phones that tablets, right now. So for
> the Nexus 10, it is wait and see for the next upgrades.
>
> Jim Maki
> jwm_maill...@comcast.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> Behalf Of Al E. Gator
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:26 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> Yeah, screen res is important. It’s got JellyBean, but since it’s from
> Google, I’m guessing it’ll upgrade with out too much hassle? Complete
> Android novice, that’s why I want to get something and play with it.
>
> Thanks for the info.
> Al
>
> From: Jim Maki
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:57 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> Al,
>
> I like the Asus Nexus 10. Screen resolution is much higher (and I believe
> sharper) than the model you posted. It is a little more expensive but I
> think the higher resolution (and increase memory) are worth it.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-10-Wi-Fi-only/dp/
> B00ACVI202/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1498427501=8-5&
> keywords=nexus+10+tablet
>
> Jim Maki
> jwm_maill...@comcast.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> Behalf Of Al E. Gator
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:23 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
>
> Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the
> market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
> 9SIA4TX5UD5025=1
>
> Thx,
> Al
>
>
>

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Joshua MacCraw]

Android and devices should always be approached from the "is there a
community modding it" perspective.

And no, Apple is a terrible choice even if it's the best fit because they
are a terrible company, building crap (from a hardware perspective) and
actively preventing repairs & recycling.

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Al E. Gator <eight.bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks lopaka. eBay is full of used FireHd of all sizes. Any particular
> generation/size to go for?
> TIA,
> Al
>
> From: lopaka polena
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:42 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> If you're not against modding/flashing ROMs, the fire tablet (special
> offers version with ads) can be had for around $39 each and flashed with
> cyanogenROM. I've got 2 and for the money they are crazy good once you
> remove amazons ROM and ads and put cynanogen on there :)
>
> lopaka
>
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Al E. Gator <eight.bit...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the
> > market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
> > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
> > 9SIA4TX5UD5025=1
> >
> > Thx,
> > Al
> >
>
>

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Al E. Gator]

Thanks lopaka. eBay is full of used FireHd of all sizes. Any particular 
generation/size to go for?
TIA,
Al

From: lopaka polena
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:42 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

If you're not against modding/flashing ROMs, the fire tablet (special
offers version with ads) can be had for around $39 each and flashed with
cyanogenROM. I've got 2 and for the money they are crazy good once you
remove amazons ROM and ads and put cynanogen on there :)

lopaka

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Al E. Gator <eight.bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the
> market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
> 9SIA4TX5UD5025=1
>
> Thx,
> Al
>

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Al E. Gator]

>From what I’ve read, most ppl agree. I want to learn Android, so that’s my 
>motivation.
Thanks.
Al

From: Naushad Zulfiqar
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:07 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

As much as I'm an android freak, I think iPad is still the best tablet.

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017, 7:55 PM Jim Maki <jwm_maill...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Al,
>
> I own two and they have been updated to the 6.0.1 without issue. In the
> past, the upgrade path has been fairly fast. Not sure about Nougat, 7.0.
> Android seems to be more targeted to phones that tablets, right now. So for
> the Nexus 10, it is wait and see for the next upgrades.
>
> Jim Maki
> jwm_maill...@comcast.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> Behalf Of Al E. Gator
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:26 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> Yeah, screen res is important. It’s got JellyBean, but since it’s from
> Google, I’m guessing it’ll upgrade with out too much hassle? Complete
> Android novice, that’s why I want to get something and play with it.
>
> Thanks for the info.
> Al
>
> From: Jim Maki
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:57 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> Al,
>
> I like the Asus Nexus 10. Screen resolution is much higher (and I believe
> sharper) than the model you posted. It is a little more expensive but I
> think the higher resolution (and increase memory) are worth it.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-10-Wi-Fi-only/dp/B00ACVI202/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1498427501=8-5=nexus+10+tablet
>
> Jim Maki
> jwm_maill...@comcast.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> Behalf Of Al E. Gator
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:23 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
>
> Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the
> market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4TX5UD5025=1
>
> Thx,
> Al
>
>
>

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Naushad Zulfiqar]

As much as I'm an android freak, I think iPad is still the best tablet.

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017, 7:55 PM Jim Maki <jwm_maill...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Al,
>
> I own two and they have been updated to the 6.0.1 without issue. In the
> past, the upgrade path has been fairly fast. Not sure about Nougat, 7.0.
> Android seems to be more targeted to phones that tablets, right now. So for
> the Nexus 10, it is wait and see for the next upgrades.
>
> Jim Maki
> jwm_maill...@comcast.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> Behalf Of Al E. Gator
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:26 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> Yeah, screen res is important. It’s got JellyBean, but since it’s from
> Google, I’m guessing it’ll upgrade with out too much hassle? Complete
> Android novice, that’s why I want to get something and play with it.
>
> Thanks for the info.
> Al
>
> From: Jim Maki
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:57 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
> Al,
>
> I like the Asus Nexus 10. Screen resolution is much higher (and I believe
> sharper) than the model you posted. It is a little more expensive but I
> think the higher resolution (and increase memory) are worth it.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-10-Wi-Fi-only/dp/B00ACVI202/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1498427501=8-5=nexus+10+tablet
>
> Jim Maki
> jwm_maill...@comcast.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
> Behalf Of Al E. Gator
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:23 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
>
>
> Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the
> market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4TX5UD5025=1
>
> Thx,
> Al
>
>
>

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Jim Maki]

Al, 

I own two and they have been updated to the 6.0.1 without issue. In the past, 
the upgrade path has been fairly fast. Not sure about Nougat, 7.0. Android 
seems to be more targeted to phones that tablets, right now. So for the Nexus 
10, it is wait and see for the next upgrades.

Jim Maki
jwm_maill...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
Al E. Gator
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:26 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

Yeah, screen res is important. It’s got JellyBean, but since it’s from Google, 
I’m guessing it’ll upgrade with out too much hassle? Complete Android novice, 
that’s why I want to get something and play with it.

Thanks for the info.
Al

From: Jim Maki
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:57 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

Al,

I like the Asus Nexus 10. Screen resolution is much higher (and I believe 
sharper) than the model you posted. It is a little more expensive but I think 
the higher resolution (and increase memory) are worth it.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-10-Wi-Fi-only/dp/B00ACVI202/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1498427501=8-5=nexus+10+tablet

Jim Maki
jwm_maill...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
Al E. Gator
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:23 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation


Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the 
market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4TX5UD5025=1

Thx,
Al

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Al E. Gator]

Yeah, screen res is important. It’s got JellyBean, but since it’s from Google, 
I’m guessing it’ll upgrade with out too much hassle? Complete Android novice, 
that’s why I want to get something and play with it.

Thanks for the info.
Al

From: Jim Maki
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:57 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

Al,

I like the Asus Nexus 10. Screen resolution is much higher (and I believe 
sharper) than the model you posted. It is a little more expensive but I think 
the higher resolution (and increase memory) are worth it.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-10-Wi-Fi-only/dp/B00ACVI202/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1498427501=8-5=nexus+10+tablet

Jim Maki
jwm_maill...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
Al E. Gator
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:23 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation


Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the 
market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4TX5UD5025=1

Thx,
Al

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Jim Maki]

Al,

I like the Asus Nexus 10. Screen resolution is much higher (and I believe 
sharper) than the model you posted. It is a little more expensive but I think 
the higher resolution (and increase memory) are worth it.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-10-Wi-Fi-only/dp/B00ACVI202/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1498427501=8-5=nexus+10+tablet

Jim Maki
jwm_maill...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
Al E. Gator
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:23 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation


Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the 
market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4TX5UD5025=1

Thx,
Al

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Al E. Gator]

Thanks, that sounds like just the ticket. Cheap and get to stick it to Amazon. 
I don’t see a 10 inch.
http://lifehacker.com/cyanogenmod-is-dead-and-its-successor-is-lineage-os-1790554964

Any other links you want to offer?
Thanks 
Al
From: lopaka polena
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:42 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

If you're not against modding/flashing ROMs, the fire tablet (special
offers version with ads) can be had for around $39 each and flashed with
cyanogenROM. I've got 2 and for the money they are crazy good once you
remove amazons ROM and ads and put cynanogen on there :)

lopaka

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Al E. Gator <eight.bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the
> market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
> 9SIA4TX5UD5025=1
>
> Thx,
> Al
>

Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[lopaka polena]

If you're not against modding/flashing ROMs, the fire tablet (special
offers version with ads) can be had for around $39 each and flashed with
cyanogenROM. I've got 2 and for the money they are crazy good once you
remove amazons ROM and ads and put cynanogen on there :)

lopaka

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Al E. Gator  wrote:

>
> Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the
> market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
> 9SIA4TX5UD5025=1
>
> Thx,
> Al
>

[H] Android Tablet Recommendation

[Al E. Gator]

Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the 
market, it’s hard to choose. Any help?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4TX5UD5025=1

Thx,
Al

Re: [H] Android VM

[Christopher Fisk]

I don't see why not.  But you don't lose much trying.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Winterlight 
wrote:

>
> Thanks for this ... what I really want this for is so that I can view my
> Motorola Hubble pet camera on my PC. It is only available for Android OS.
> Do you think it will support a Android camera security app?
>
>
> At 08:31 AM 9/18/2016, you wrote:
>
>> http://www.jide.com/remixos-for-pc#downloadNow
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Winterlight > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Anybody running Android that supports android apps in a VM? If so what
>> > and can such a VM be downloaded or purchased.
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [H] Android VM

[Winterlight]

Thanks for this ... what I really want this for is so that I can view 
my Motorola Hubble pet camera on my PC. It is only available for 
Android OS. Do you think it will support a Android camera security app?


At 08:31 AM 9/18/2016, you wrote:

http://www.jide.com/remixos-for-pc#downloadNow

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Winterlight 
wrote:

> Anybody running Android that supports android apps in a VM? If so what
> and can such a VM be downloaded or purchased.
>

Re: [H] Android VM

[Christopher Fisk]

http://www.jide.com/remixos-for-pc#downloadNow

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Winterlight 
wrote:

> Anybody running Android that supports android apps in a VM? If so what
> and can such a VM be downloaded or purchased.
>

[H] Android VM

[Winterlight]

Anybody running Android that supports android apps in a VM? If so 
what  and can such a VM be downloaded or purchased. 

Re: [H] Android phone

[Joshua MacCraw]

Not to mention it's that specific brands experience because there are so
many flavors of Android. Funny I expected to see apple not windows as the
claimed superior monolithic experience.

You need another app to answer & make calls? Isn't that built-in and what's
wrong with it that you're missing calls to point if searching for apps?

Call blocking is not a network feature like landlines, so totally at the
mercy of contacts & dialer apps. Some Android I have it, others I have
created single contact and dump all DND there.

On Aug 21, 2016 1:51 PM, "Greg Sevart" <ad...@xfury.net> wrote:

And Hiya can prevent known-spam numbers from even ringing.

I don't think it's fair to say Android is a POS just because you're not
familiar with it. It's not perfect--none of them are. It's all about what
you're used to. My brother uses WP, and I could make the same comments
about it being a POS, but the reality is that I just am not familiar with
it.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Quilhot
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:24 PM
To: hardware <hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com>
Subject: Re: [H] Android phone

Not sure about the Moto, but my Samgung & LG: select call in history,
select menu setting 3 vertical dots top right corner, add to reject list.

Rick Q
quilh...@gmail.com


On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Winterlight <winterli...@winterlight.org>
wrote:

> I am forced to use a Android phone for my business phone Moto G 2
> because of the app support. I don't have a problem with the hardware
> but I dislike the OS. Everything is a learning curve. My personal
> phone is a Windows 10 phone which I love, and I have never had to look
> up anything. With this Android phone even something as simple as
> answering the phone was a learning curve hell, there are a dozen
> apps just to help you answer the phone, and a google search proved I
> wasn't alone in missing one call after another.
>
> So now I am trying to find a simple way to block spammers. Windows
> phone... select the number in history...select block and your done.
> However this POS Android phone I apparently have to add the number to
> the contacts before I am allowed to block it is there a simpler
> way to do this in Android.
>
>

Re: [H] Android phone

[Winterlight]

maybe so... but the any end user ought to be able to answer the phone 
without thinking about it. It is the priority job of a phone. I can't 
tell you the number of times I am scrambling for my reading glasses 
in an attempt to answer my phone only to loose the call. There are 
too many ways to answer when it does ring.. and somebody like me uses 
reading glasses so when it does ring I can't really see where I am 
suppose to slide it or what I am suppose to touch... it is 
ridiculous...too clever by far.



At 01:51 PM 8/21/2016, you wrote:

And Hiya can prevent known-spam numbers from even ringing.

I don't think it's fair to say Android is a POS just because you're 
not familiar with it. It's not perfect--none of them are. It's all 
about what you're used to. My brother uses WP, and I could make the 
same comments about it being a POS, but the reality is that I just 
am not familiar with it.


-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Quilhot

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:24 PM
To: hardware <hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com>
Subject: Re: [H] Android phone

Not sure about the Moto, but my Samgung & LG: select call in 
history, select menu setting 3 vertical dots top right corner, add 
to reject list.


Rick Q
quilh...@gmail.com


On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Winterlight <winterli...@winterlight.org>
wrote:

> I am forced to use a Android phone for my business phone Moto G 2
> because of the app support. I don't have a problem with the hardware
> but I dislike the OS. Everything is a learning curve. My personal
> phone is a Windows 10 phone which I love, and I have never had to look
> up anything. With this Android phone even something as simple as
> answering the phone was a learning curve hell, there are a dozen
> apps just to help you answer the phone, and a google search proved I
> wasn't alone in missing one call after another.
>
> So now I am trying to find a simple way to block spammers. Windows
> phone... select the number in history...select block and your done.
> However this POS Android phone I apparently have to add the number to
> the contacts before I am allowed to block it is there a simpler
> way to do this in Android.
>
>

Re: [H] Android phone

[Greg Sevart]

And Hiya can prevent known-spam numbers from even ringing.

I don't think it's fair to say Android is a POS just because you're not 
familiar with it. It's not perfect--none of them are. It's all about what 
you're used to. My brother uses WP, and I could make the same comments about it 
being a POS, but the reality is that I just am not familiar with it.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Quilhot
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:24 PM
To: hardware <hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com>
Subject: Re: [H] Android phone

Not sure about the Moto, but my Samgung & LG: select call in history, select 
menu setting 3 vertical dots top right corner, add to reject list.

Rick Q
quilh...@gmail.com


On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Winterlight <winterli...@winterlight.org>
wrote:

> I am forced to use a Android phone for my business phone Moto G 2 
> because of the app support. I don't have a problem with the hardware 
> but I dislike the OS. Everything is a learning curve. My personal 
> phone is a Windows 10 phone which I love, and I have never had to look 
> up anything. With this Android phone even something as simple as 
> answering the phone was a learning curve hell, there are a dozen 
> apps just to help you answer the phone, and a google search proved I 
> wasn't alone in missing one call after another.
>
> So now I am trying to find a simple way to block spammers. Windows 
> phone... select the number in history...select block and your done. 
> However this POS Android phone I apparently have to add the number to 
> the contacts before I am allowed to block it is there a simpler 
> way to do this in Android.
>
>

Re: [H] Android phone

[Richard Quilhot]

Not sure about the Moto, but my Samgung & LG: select call in history,
select menu setting 3 vertical dots top right corner, add to reject list.

Rick Q
quilh...@gmail.com


On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Winterlight 
wrote:

> I am forced to use a Android phone for my business phone Moto G 2 because
> of the app support. I don't have a problem with the hardware but I dislike
> the OS. Everything is a learning curve. My personal phone is a Windows 10
> phone which I love, and I have never had to look up anything. With this
> Android phone even something as simple as answering the phone was a
> learning curve hell, there are a dozen apps just to help you answer the
> phone, and a google search proved I wasn't alone in missing one call after
> another.
>
> So now I am trying to find a simple way to block spammers. Windows
> phone... select the number in history...select block and your done. However
> this POS Android phone I apparently have to add the number to the contacts
> before I am allowed to block it is there a simpler way to do this in
> Android.
>
>

[H] Android phone

[Winterlight]

I am forced to use a Android phone for my business phone Moto G 2 
because of the app support. I don't have a problem with the hardware 
but I dislike the OS. Everything is a learning curve. My personal 
phone is a Windows 10 phone which I love, and I have never had to 
look up anything. With this Android phone even something as simple as 
answering the phone was a learning curve hell, there are a dozen 
apps just to help you answer the phone, and a google search proved I 
wasn't alone in missing one call after another.


So now I am trying to find a simple way to block spammers. Windows 
phone... select the number in history...select block and your done. 
However this POS Android phone I apparently have to add the number to 
the contacts before I am allowed to block it is there a simpler 
way to do this in Android.

Re: [H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

Ok, update on this and good news.  Some Good Samaritan just released an
S-Off Unlock for Verizon HTC One:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644

That means I can finally dump the HTC Sense crap and Verizon bloatware.

Suggestions for my first ROM?  Cyanogen?

---
Brian

On Saturday, August 24, 2013, Alex Lee wrote:

 If your Nexus 4 has bloatware, it's not a Google Play or Nexus phone.

 Look at the phones on play.google.com

 On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Brian Weeden 
 brian.wee...@gmail.comjavascript:;
 wrote:

  That would be even worse. N4 bloatware is pretty hideous. At least the
 HTC
  stuff is not that bad.
 
  --
  Brian
   On Aug 24, 2013 7:23 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.netjavascript:;
 wrote:
 
   I meant a different phone. Like the nexus 4?
  
  
   On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 07:14:20PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
Not really an option as you're just giving them more money - they
  charge
you the same whether you have a subsidized phone or not.
  
   --
  
   Bryan G. Seitz
  
 



-- 


-
Brian

Re: [H] Android Assisted Dialing Question

[Joshua MacCraw]

We're not lazy, cellular network assumes +1 and unlike land line which
relies on the 1's tone to set it up in domestic dial
On Oct 3, 2013 6:47 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Recently switched from iOS to Android and am having trouble dialing
 numbers. All of my contacts have the country code included in the stored
 phone numbers. So all the US numbers are +1 (xxx) xxx-, the Belgian
 numbers +32 (xxx) xxx-, etc.

 But I can't actually dial any of the US numbers. When I try to do so, I get
 a network busy message.  If I remove the country code, it works just
 fine.

 Googling around I discovered that it might be due to a feature called
 Assisted dialing which apparently is something for lazy Americans who
 don't realize that country codes exist. I have the feature turned off, and
 expected my phone to just figure it out like my iPhone did.

 Short of going through all of my numbers and removing the +1 country code,
 suggestions?


 -
 Brian

[H] Android Assisted Dialing Question

[Brian Weeden]

Recently switched from iOS to Android and am having trouble dialing
numbers. All of my contacts have the country code included in the stored
phone numbers. So all the US numbers are +1 (xxx) xxx-, the Belgian
numbers +32 (xxx) xxx-, etc.

But I can't actually dial any of the US numbers. When I try to do so, I get
a network busy message.  If I remove the country code, it works just fine.

Googling around I discovered that it might be due to a feature called
Assisted dialing which apparently is something for lazy Americans who
don't realize that country codes exist. I have the feature turned off, and
expected my phone to just figure it out like my iPhone did.

Short of going through all of my numbers and removing the +1 country code,
suggestions?


-
Brian

Re: [H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

Finally got my HTC One today.  Had to wait for it to come to Verizon
because my wife and I decided we were going to stick with her existing
account there.

Bad news is that one day after launch the evil f$ckers at Verizon blocked
the ability to unlock the boot loader:
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/smartphones-2/verizon-htc-one-bootloader-no-longer-unlockable/

So, question is, what should I do now?  I really want to get rid of the
Veizon bloatware, and would love to put either Google Edition firmware on
it or maybe even Cyanogen.  Do I have any hope for either of those to be an
option at some point in the near future?  Or am I screwed?

---
Brian



On Monday, August 5, 2013, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

 I'm interested in hearing how it goes. I've had a few android phones and
 all were rooted with custom ROM's within the first couple days. I use
 virgin mobile and on that network it's very important to register the phone
 to their service before you root and install a custom ROM. The phone won't
 register correctly otherwise. I love android phones but only after
 installing a custom ROM with the tools I prefer. They usually come with
 loads of crapware that needs to be gone. CyanogenMod is usually my
 preferred ROM.


 lopaka



 
  From: Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com javascript:;
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com javascript:;
 Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 1:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [H] Android


 Cool, just excited to see what you think of Android.  Let me know once you
 get it.

 Thanks!


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  No, had  to wait a week. It's going to be a work phone and I have to
  double-check with my employer to make sure they're going to cover the
 plan
  I want before signing the contract.
 
 
 
  -
  Brian
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Did you get it?
  
   :)
  
  
   On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and
 then
I'll start playing around.
   
I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really
 intensive.
 Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max battery
   life
tweak sound good to me.
   
---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534
   
On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware (physical)
 and
 software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung is
 too
 cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware button,
 I
   also
 agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it.
   That
 said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong
  way
(not
 following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going on
 with
   HTC
 also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other
keypresses
 to get Google Now.

 I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some
   reason, I
 still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.  Along
  with
the
 MOTO X and some other models.

 About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half
   baked
 or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full
  package
and
 then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and
flashes
 it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too
  painful
and
 the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in
  some
 cases once a month.

 One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just
  the
 recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out
  there.
 CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports the
  Open
 Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like
  flashing
the
 ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and
   other
 stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery
 Project).

 With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup
  from
 within the recovery.  This is akin to creating an ISO image of your
phone,
 so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM
 and
don't
 like it, you can always re-image your phone back to it's previous
   state
 including all preferences and wallpapers that you have se



-- 


-
Brian

Re: [H] Android

[Bryan Seitz]

return the phone get a google edition phone.  I love Verizon's network hate 
their customer treatment / support.

On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:48:51PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
 Finally got my HTC One today.  Had to wait for it to come to Verizon
 because my wife and I decided we were going to stick with her existing
 account there.
 
 Bad news is that one day after launch the evil f$ckers at Verizon blocked
 the ability to unlock the boot loader:
 http://androidandme.com/2013/08/smartphones-2/verizon-htc-one-bootloader-no-longer-unlockable/
 
 So, question is, what should I do now?  I really want to get rid of the
 Veizon bloatware, and would love to put either Google Edition firmware on
 it or maybe even Cyanogen.  Do I have any hope for either of those to be an
 option at some point in the near future?  Or am I screwed?
 
 ---
 Brian
 
 
 
 On Monday, August 5, 2013, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
 
  I'm interested in hearing how it goes. I've had a few android phones and
  all were rooted with custom ROM's within the first couple days. I use
  virgin mobile and on that network it's very important to register the phone
  to their service before you root and install a custom ROM. The phone won't
  register correctly otherwise. I love android phones but only after
  installing a custom ROM with the tools I prefer. They usually come with
  loads of crapware that needs to be gone. CyanogenMod is usually my
  preferred ROM.
 
 
  lopaka
 
 
 
  
   From: Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com javascript:;
  To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com javascript:;
  Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 1:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [H] Android
 
 
  Cool, just excited to see what you think of Android.  Let me know once you
  get it.
 
  Thanks!
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   No, had  to wait a week. It's going to be a work phone and I have to
   double-check with my employer to make sure they're going to cover the
  plan
   I want before signing the contract.
  
  
  
   -
   Brian
  
  
  
   On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Did you get it?
   
:)
   
   
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and
  then
 I'll start playing around.

 I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really
  intensive.
  Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max battery
life
 tweak sound good to me.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Secure World Foundation
 +1 202 683-8534

 On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:

  I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware (physical)
  and
  software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung is
  too
  cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware button,
  I
also
  agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it.
That
  said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong
   way
 (not
  following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going on
  with
HTC
  also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other
 keypresses
  to get Google Now.
 
  I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some
reason, I
  still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.  Along
   with
 the
  MOTO X and some other models.
 
  About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half
baked
  or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full
   package
 and
  then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and
 flashes
  it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too
   painful
 and
  the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in
   some
  cases once a month.
 
  One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just
   the
  recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out
   there.
  CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports the
   Open
  Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like
   flashing
 the
  ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and
other
  stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery
  Project).
 
  With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup
   from
  within the recovery.  This is akin to creating an ISO image of your
 phone,
  so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM
  and
 don't
  like it, you can always re-image your phone back to it's previous
state
  including all preferences and wallpapers that you have se
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 
 -
 Brian

Re: [H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

Not really an option as you're just giving them more money - they charge
you the same whether you have a subsidized phone or not.

--
Brian
 On Aug 24, 2013 7:09 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:

 return the phone get a google edition phone.  I love Verizon's network
 hate their customer treatment / support.

 On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:48:51PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
  Finally got my HTC One today.  Had to wait for it to come to Verizon
  because my wife and I decided we were going to stick with her existing
  account there.
 
  Bad news is that one day after launch the evil f$ckers at Verizon
 blocked
  the ability to unlock the boot loader:
 
 http://androidandme.com/2013/08/smartphones-2/verizon-htc-one-bootloader-no-longer-unlockable/
 
  So, question is, what should I do now?  I really want to get rid of the
  Veizon bloatware, and would love to put either Google Edition firmware on
  it or maybe even Cyanogen.  Do I have any hope for either of those to be
 an
  option at some point in the near future?  Or am I screwed?
 
  ---
  Brian
 
 
 
  On Monday, August 5, 2013, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
 
   I'm interested in hearing how it goes. I've had a few android phones
 and
   all were rooted with custom ROM's within the first couple days. I use
   virgin mobile and on that network it's very important to register the
 phone
   to their service before you root and install a custom ROM. The phone
 won't
   register correctly otherwise. I love android phones but only after
   installing a custom ROM with the tools I prefer. They usually come with
   loads of crapware that needs to be gone. CyanogenMod is usually my
   preferred ROM.
  
  
   lopaka
  
  
  
   
From: Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com javascript:;
   To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com javascript:;
   Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 1:08 PM
   Subject: Re: [H] Android
  
  
   Cool, just excited to see what you think of Android.  Let me know once
 you
   get it.
  
   Thanks!
  
  
   On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
No, had  to wait a week. It's going to be a work phone and I have to
double-check with my employer to make sure they're going to cover the
   plan
I want before signing the contract.
   
   
   
-
Brian
   
   
   
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 Did you get it?

 :)


 On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden 
 brian.wee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone
 and
   then
  I'll start playing around.
 
  I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really
   intensive.
   Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max
 battery
 life
  tweak sound good to me.
 
  ---
  Brian Weeden
  Secure World Foundation
  +1 202 683-8534
 
  On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware
 (physical)
   and
   software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung
 is
   too
   cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware
 button,
   I
 also
   agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like
 it.
 That
   said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the
 wrong
way
  (not
   following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going
 on
   with
 HTC
   also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other
  keypresses
   to get Google Now.
  
   I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some
 reason, I
   still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.
  Along
with
  the
   MOTO X and some other models.
  
   About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be
 half
 baked
   or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full
package
  and
   then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into
 recovery and
  flashes
   it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too
painful
  and
   the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks
 or in
some
   cases once a month.
  
   One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader,
 just
the
   recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2
 out
there.
   CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports
 the
Open
   Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like
flashing
  the
   ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache
 and
 other
   stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery
   Project).
  
   With either recovery it's advisable to first do

Re: [H] Android

[Bryan Seitz]

I meant a different phone. Like the nexus 4?


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 07:14:20PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
 Not really an option as you're just giving them more money - they charge
 you the same whether you have a subsidized phone or not.

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

That would be even worse. N4 bloatware is pretty hideous. At least the HTC
stuff is not that bad.

--
Brian
 On Aug 24, 2013 7:23 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:

 I meant a different phone. Like the nexus 4?


 On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 07:14:20PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
  Not really an option as you're just giving them more money - they charge
  you the same whether you have a subsidized phone or not.

 --

 Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] Android

[Naushad Zulfiqar]

Did you get it?

:)


On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and then
 I'll start playing around.

 I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really intensive.
  Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max battery life
 tweak sound good to me.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Secure World Foundation
 +1 202 683-8534

 On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:

  I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware (physical) and
  software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung is too
  cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware button, I also
  agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it.  That
  said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong way
 (not
  following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going on with HTC
  also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other
 keypresses
  to get Google Now.
 
  I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some reason, I
  still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.  Along with
 the
  MOTO X and some other models.
 
  About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half baked
  or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full package
 and
  then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and
 flashes
  it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too painful
 and
  the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in some
  cases once a month.
 
  One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just the
  recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out there.
  CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports the Open
  Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like flashing
 the
  ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and other
  stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project).
 
  With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup from
  within the recovery.  This is akin to creating an ISO image of your
 phone,
  so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM and
 don't
  like it, you can always re-image your phone back to it's previous state
  including all preferences and wallpapers that you have set.  It's a true
  image.
 
  Also read up on Titanium Backup.  That app is worth it's digital weight
 in
  gold!!  I use it regularly and almost every day.  It can do some
 freakishly
  amazing stuff!!
 
  In the end, if none of this custom ROM malarkey makes you happy, it's
 also
  very easy to revert back to stock and continue using it that way.
 
  For a vanilla experience with some bells and whistles over stock, try
  Cyanogenmod.  It's compiled from the AOSP (Android Open Source Project)
 and
  has some really nifty features built in that I wish were in stock
 android.
  In fact a lot of stuff in stock comes from Cyanogen.  These guys are at
  the leading edge of Android Development.
 
  But there are some caveats with Cyanogen (www.get.cm)  Stable builds for
  the S4 and One don't exist, and you would have to run nightlies.  That
 can
  also mean flashing every night.  Thankfully there is a free app called
  Cyandelta on the play store that downloads only the delta's and flashes
  that, so instead of a 180 MB download every day, it's around 5-6 megs.
  But
  then again, if a particular build of the nightly is working fine, then
  there is no real reason to upgrade.  But you know me, I like to inflict
  hurt on myself :)
 
  Hope that's not too overwhelming.  It may seem as such, but once you
  understand the basics, flashing ROMS and Kernels is really fun and you
 can
  really tailor your device to your particular usage needs.  Like I said, I
  value battery life, so I flashed the ROM and Kernel that gave the best
  battery life for me.  But at the same time, when I wanted to play games I
  wanted full performance.  Hence I chose Carbon Rom and Matri1x Kernel.
 
  I'll do some general research on the HTC one and will provide some
  suggestions on which Kernel and/or ROM you should start off with.
  Speaking
  of which, the best path in the beginning is to stick to a customized
 stock
  ROM.  That's where they take the stock rom and tweak it to remove
 excessive
  bloat, add new features and tweak the speed.  You get the stock look and
  feel but with generally better performance and features.
 
  Till next time, take care!
 
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Thanks, this is good stuff.
 
  I've been going back and forth about S4 or One, and I could probably
 live
  with either.  The one thing that sort of annoyed me about the S4 was
 that
  it still has a hardware menu button, despite that going away in Android.
  Plus the Samsung 

Re: [H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

No, had  to wait a week. It's going to be a work phone and I have to
double-check with my employer to make sure they're going to cover the plan
I want before signing the contract.



-
Brian



On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:

 Did you get it?

 :)


 On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and then
  I'll start playing around.
 
  I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really intensive.
   Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max battery
 life
  tweak sound good to me.
 
  ---
  Brian Weeden
  Secure World Foundation
  +1 202 683-8534
 
  On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware (physical) and
   software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung is too
   cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware button, I
 also
   agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it.  That
   said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong way
  (not
   following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going on with
 HTC
   also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other
  keypresses
   to get Google Now.
  
   I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some
 reason, I
   still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.  Along with
  the
   MOTO X and some other models.
  
   About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half
 baked
   or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full package
  and
   then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and
  flashes
   it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too painful
  and
   the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in some
   cases once a month.
  
   One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just the
   recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out there.
   CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports the Open
   Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like flashing
  the
   ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and
 other
   stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project).
  
   With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup from
   within the recovery.  This is akin to creating an ISO image of your
  phone,
   so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM and
  don't
   like it, you can always re-image your phone back to it's previous
 state
   including all preferences and wallpapers that you have set.  It's a
 true
   image.
  
   Also read up on Titanium Backup.  That app is worth it's digital weight
  in
   gold!!  I use it regularly and almost every day.  It can do some
  freakishly
   amazing stuff!!
  
   In the end, if none of this custom ROM malarkey makes you happy, it's
  also
   very easy to revert back to stock and continue using it that way.
  
   For a vanilla experience with some bells and whistles over stock, try
   Cyanogenmod.  It's compiled from the AOSP (Android Open Source Project)
  and
   has some really nifty features built in that I wish were in stock
  android.
   In fact a lot of stuff in stock comes from Cyanogen.  These guys are at
   the leading edge of Android Development.
  
   But there are some caveats with Cyanogen (www.get.cm)  Stable builds
 for
   the S4 and One don't exist, and you would have to run nightlies.  That
  can
   also mean flashing every night.  Thankfully there is a free app called
   Cyandelta on the play store that downloads only the delta's and flashes
   that, so instead of a 180 MB download every day, it's around 5-6 megs.
   But
   then again, if a particular build of the nightly is working fine, then
   there is no real reason to upgrade.  But you know me, I like to inflict
   hurt on myself :)
  
   Hope that's not too overwhelming.  It may seem as such, but once you
   understand the basics, flashing ROMS and Kernels is really fun and you
  can
   really tailor your device to your particular usage needs.  Like I
 said, I
   value battery life, so I flashed the ROM and Kernel that gave the best
   battery life for me.  But at the same time, when I wanted to play
 games I
   wanted full performance.  Hence I chose Carbon Rom and Matri1x Kernel.
  
   I'll do some general research on the HTC one and will provide some
   suggestions on which Kernel and/or ROM you should start off with.
   Speaking
   of which, the best path in the beginning is to stick to a customized
  stock
   ROM.  That's where they take the stock rom and tweak it to remove
  excessive
   bloat, add new features and tweak the speed.  You get the stock look
 and
   feel but with generally better performance and features.
  

Re: [H] Android

[Naushad Zulfiqar]

Cool, just excited to see what you think of Android.  Let me know once you
get it.

Thanks!


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.comwrote:

 No, had  to wait a week. It's going to be a work phone and I have to
 double-check with my employer to make sure they're going to cover the plan
 I want before signing the contract.



 -
 Brian



 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:

  Did you get it?
 
  :)
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and then
   I'll start playing around.
  
   I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really intensive.
Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max battery
  life
   tweak sound good to me.
  
   ---
   Brian Weeden
   Secure World Foundation
   +1 202 683-8534
  
   On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:
  
I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware (physical) and
software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung is too
cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware button, I
  also
agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it.
  That
said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong
 way
   (not
following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going on with
  HTC
also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other
   keypresses
to get Google Now.
   
I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some
  reason, I
still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.  Along
 with
   the
MOTO X and some other models.
   
About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half
  baked
or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full
 package
   and
then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and
   flashes
it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too
 painful
   and
the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in
 some
cases once a month.
   
One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just
 the
recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out
 there.
CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports the
 Open
Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like
 flashing
   the
ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and
  other
stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project).
   
With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup
 from
within the recovery.  This is akin to creating an ISO image of your
   phone,
so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM and
   don't
like it, you can always re-image your phone back to it's previous
  state
including all preferences and wallpapers that you have set.  It's a
  true
image.
   
Also read up on Titanium Backup.  That app is worth it's digital
 weight
   in
gold!!  I use it regularly and almost every day.  It can do some
   freakishly
amazing stuff!!
   
In the end, if none of this custom ROM malarkey makes you happy, it's
   also
very easy to revert back to stock and continue using it that way.
   
For a vanilla experience with some bells and whistles over stock, try
Cyanogenmod.  It's compiled from the AOSP (Android Open Source
 Project)
   and
has some really nifty features built in that I wish were in stock
   android.
In fact a lot of stuff in stock comes from Cyanogen.  These guys are
 at
the leading edge of Android Development.
   
But there are some caveats with Cyanogen (www.get.cm)  Stable builds
  for
the S4 and One don't exist, and you would have to run nightlies.
  That
   can
also mean flashing every night.  Thankfully there is a free app
 called
Cyandelta on the play store that downloads only the delta's and
 flashes
that, so instead of a 180 MB download every day, it's around 5-6
 megs.
But
then again, if a particular build of the nightly is working fine,
 then
there is no real reason to upgrade.  But you know me, I like to
 inflict
hurt on myself :)
   
Hope that's not too overwhelming.  It may seem as such, but once you
understand the basics, flashing ROMS and Kernels is really fun and
 you
   can
really tailor your device to your particular usage needs.  Like I
  said, I
value battery life, so I flashed the ROM and Kernel that gave the
 best
battery life for me.  But at the same time, when I wanted to play
  games I
wanted full performance.  Hence I chose Carbon Rom and Matri1x
 Kernel.
   
I'll do some general research on the HTC one and will provide some
suggestions on which Kernel and/or ROM you should start off 

Re: [H] Android

[Robert Martin Jr.]

I'm interested in hearing how it goes. I've had a few android phones and all 
were rooted with custom ROM's within the first couple days. I use virgin mobile 
and on that network it's very important to register the phone to their service 
before you root and install a custom ROM. The phone won't register correctly 
otherwise. I love android phones but only after installing a custom ROM with 
the tools I prefer. They usually come with loads of crapware that needs to be 
gone. CyanogenMod is usually my preferred ROM. 


lopaka




 From: Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com 
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Android
 

Cool, just excited to see what you think of Android.  Let me know once you
get it.

Thanks!


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.comwrote:

 No, had  to wait a week. It's going to be a work phone and I have to
 double-check with my employer to make sure they're going to cover the plan
 I want before signing the contract.



 -
 Brian



 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:

  Did you get it?
 
  :)
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and then
   I'll start playing around.
  
   I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really intensive.
    Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max battery
  life
   tweak sound good to me.
  
   ---
   Brian Weeden
   Secure World Foundation
   +1 202 683-8534
  
   On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:
  
I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware (physical) and
software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung is too
cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware button, I
  also
agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it.
  That
said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong
 way
   (not
following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going on with
  HTC
also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other
   keypresses
to get Google Now.
   
I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some
  reason, I
still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.  Along
 with
   the
MOTO X and some other models.
   
About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half
  baked
or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full
 package
   and
then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and
   flashes
it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too
 painful
   and
the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in
 some
cases once a month.
   
One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just
 the
recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out
 there.
CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports the
 Open
Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like
 flashing
   the
ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and
  other
stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project).
   
With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup
 from
within the recovery.  This is akin to creating an ISO image of your
   phone,
so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM and
   don't
like it, you can always re-image your phone back to it's previous
  state
including all preferences and wallpapers that you have set.  It's a
  true
image.
   
Also read up on Titanium Backup.  That app is worth it's digital
 weight
   in
gold!!  I use it regularly and almost every day.  It can do some
   freakishly
amazing stuff!!
   
In the end, if none of this custom ROM malarkey makes you happy, it's
   also
very easy to revert back to stock and continue using it that way.
   
For a vanilla experience with some bells and whistles over stock, try
Cyanogenmod.  It's compiled from the AOSP (Android Open Source
 Project)
   and
has some really nifty features built in that I wish were in stock
   android.
In fact a lot of stuff in stock comes from Cyanogen.  These guys are
 at
the leading edge of Android Development.
   
But there are some caveats with Cyanogen (www.get.cm)  Stable builds
  for
the S4 and One don't exist, and you would have to run nightlies.
  That
   can
also mean flashing every night.  Thankfully there is a free app
 called
Cyandelta on the play store that downloads only the delta's and
 flashes
that, so instead of a 180 MB download every day, it's around 5-6
 megs.
    But
then again, if a particular build of the nightly is working fine

[H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

Anyone on here have experience with putting custom mods on Android phones?


-
Brian

Re: [H] Android

[Naushad Zulfiqar]

Yeah I do it all the time.

What do you need.
On Aug 3, 2013 7:34 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone on here have experience with putting custom mods on Android phones?


 -
 Brian

Re: [H] Android

[Naushad Zulfiqar]

Hey there Brian.

First off good choice on the phone.  In my opinion and after using both
phones I do say that the One is better than the S4.  That said, the Verizon
versions info is sparse at best.  I found info on most other carriers
except verizon.  Anyway, that link you had seems okay.

The basic premise for HTC phones is as follows.

1.  Unlock Bootloader  (do this as soon as you get your phone because if
you unlock the bootloader you basically end up deleting all user data on it
and returning it to factory settings)
2.  Once the bootloader is unlocked you need to flash a custom recovery on
it.  Having a custom recovery will allow you to basically flash any file
into the OS.
3.  I recommend TWRP for the recovery.  I find it the best.
4.  Also download superuser (like supersu or others) from the web and
download it.
5.  Once you flash the recovery and copy the supersu onto the phone;
6.  You would boot into TWRP and flash supersu from there.

That's it your phone is rooted with a custom recovery.  From there you can
do anything you want.

Now regarding stock Android...I think you will be losing a lot.
 There are a lot of camera optimizations on these devices that you would
lose if you went that route.  I would suggest doing the following.

1.  Put the custom recovery and root the device.
2.  Keep the stock rom
3.  Use a launcher such as APEX or NOVA (I use APEX) and you will then have
a pure vanilla android homescreen experience, but still retain the
optimizations that HTC did for the camera and speakers and other things.

If you insist to have vanilla android on it then if I'm not mistaken then
the Google Edition HTC One ROM does work flawlessly on the HTC One.

There are no major caveats to doing a custom rom.  Make sure that you check
out custom kernels also, they really really really improve the performance
of the phone.

Just for info I'm using a Nexus 4 with Carbon ROM and Matr1x Kernel with
GPU Overclock.  I'm getting similar performance to the S4 with all day
battery life.  What's not to like!!  The new MOTO X looks good to me also,
despite it being called a mid range device, I would have to disagree.
 People are becoming spec whores and in the end there is no benefit to
having all that power when the apps don't need it and the battery life
suffers.  For me, if I was in the US right now, the MOTO X would be near or
on the top of my list.   One more thing, do consider getting a nexus 4,
they are cheap as chips and still a very viable phone and a powerhouse.
 Otherwise wait till November for the Nexus 5.

Oh and one more thing..

XDA Developers website and forums are your best friend.  Repeat after
me... XDA Developers is awesome!!

LOL!

Good luck and welcome to the world of Android.


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm switching from iOS to Android in the next week or so.  I want an HTC
 One with just stock Android on it.  Only real option for good coverage
 where I need it is Verizon, and with them I would get charged the same
 price whether I had a subsidized phone or not.  So, my plan is to get a
 new, subsidized HTC One and then root it to put stock Android on it.  This
 guide seems to be just what I need:

 http://www.cultofandroid.com/26527/rooting-the-htc-one-the-right-way-how-to/#BPoyTdi0vV0cqaz0.99


 I'm wondering if there are any gotchas I'm going to run across. Like, would
 the fact that the phone is locked to a carrier (because it's under
 contract) prevent me from rooting it?



 -
 Brian



 On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Yeah I do it all the time.
 
  What do you need.
  On Aug 3, 2013 7:34 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Anyone on here have experience with putting custom mods on Android
  phones?
  
  
   -
   Brian
  
 




-- 
Best Regards,


Zulfiqar Naushad

Re: [H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

Thanks, this is good stuff.

I've been going back and forth about S4 or One, and I could probably live
with either.  The one thing that sort of annoyed me about the S4 was that
it still has a hardware menu button, despite that going away in Android.
 Plus the Samsung software is just horrible.  While I could probably live
with the default HTC software, no way I could deal with the Samsung crap.

Part of what I'm struggling with is being overwhelmed with options.  Unlike
iOS where you get one bootloader, one recovery, and one ROM there's a ton
of options out there for Android.  However, I have gotten really used to
OTA updates and a good backup/recovery if something goes wrong.  Do any of
the options you suggest offer OTA?  Does going such a customized route make
recovery any harder? What about backing up your device?



-
Brian



On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey there Brian.

 First off good choice on the phone.  In my opinion and after using both
 phones I do say that the One is better than the S4.  That said, the Verizon
 versions info is sparse at best.  I found info on most other carriers
 except verizon.  Anyway, that link you had seems okay.

 The basic premise for HTC phones is as follows.

 1.  Unlock Bootloader  (do this as soon as you get your phone because if
 you unlock the bootloader you basically end up deleting all user data on it
 and returning it to factory settings)
 2.  Once the bootloader is unlocked you need to flash a custom recovery on
 it.  Having a custom recovery will allow you to basically flash any file
 into the OS.
 3.  I recommend TWRP for the recovery.  I find it the best.
 4.  Also download superuser (like supersu or others) from the web and
 download it.
 5.  Once you flash the recovery and copy the supersu onto the phone;
 6.  You would boot into TWRP and flash supersu from there.

 That's it your phone is rooted with a custom recovery.  From there you can
 do anything you want.

 Now regarding stock Android...I think you will be losing a lot.
  There are a lot of camera optimizations on these devices that you would
 lose if you went that route.  I would suggest doing the following.

 1.  Put the custom recovery and root the device.
 2.  Keep the stock rom
 3.  Use a launcher such as APEX or NOVA (I use APEX) and you will then have
 a pure vanilla android homescreen experience, but still retain the
 optimizations that HTC did for the camera and speakers and other things.

 If you insist to have vanilla android on it then if I'm not mistaken then
 the Google Edition HTC One ROM does work flawlessly on the HTC One.

 There are no major caveats to doing a custom rom.  Make sure that you check
 out custom kernels also, they really really really improve the performance
 of the phone.

 Just for info I'm using a Nexus 4 with Carbon ROM and Matr1x Kernel with
 GPU Overclock.  I'm getting similar performance to the S4 with all day
 battery life.  What's not to like!!  The new MOTO X looks good to me also,
 despite it being called a mid range device, I would have to disagree.
  People are becoming spec whores and in the end there is no benefit to
 having all that power when the apps don't need it and the battery life
 suffers.  For me, if I was in the US right now, the MOTO X would be near or
 on the top of my list.   One more thing, do consider getting a nexus 4,
 they are cheap as chips and still a very viable phone and a powerhouse.
  Otherwise wait till November for the Nexus 5.

 Oh and one more thing..

 XDA Developers website and forums are your best friend.  Repeat after
 me... XDA Developers is awesome!!

 LOL!

 Good luck and welcome to the world of Android.


 On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I'm switching from iOS to Android in the next week or so.  I want an HTC
  One with just stock Android on it.  Only real option for good coverage
  where I need it is Verizon, and with them I would get charged the same
  price whether I had a subsidized phone or not.  So, my plan is to get a
  new, subsidized HTC One and then root it to put stock Android on it.
  This
  guide seems to be just what I need:
 
 
 http://www.cultofandroid.com/26527/rooting-the-htc-one-the-right-way-how-to/#BPoyTdi0vV0cqaz0.99
 
 
  I'm wondering if there are any gotchas I'm going to run across. Like,
 would
  the fact that the phone is locked to a carrier (because it's under
  contract) prevent me from rooting it?
 
 
 
  -
  Brian
 
 
 
  On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Yeah I do it all the time.
  
   What do you need.
   On Aug 3, 2013 7:34 PM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Anyone on here have experience with putting custom mods on Android
   phones?
   
   
-
Brian
   
  
 



 --
 Best Regards,


 Zulfiqar Naushad

Re: [H] Android

[Brian Weeden]

Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and then I'll 
start playing around.

I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really intensive.  Mostly 
email, browsing, reading, and light apps.  So the max battery life tweak sound 
good to me.

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Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with your assessment.  HTC has better hardware (physical) and
 software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz).  Samsung is too
 cartoony and weird looking for me.  Regarding the hardware button, I also
 agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it.  That
 said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong way (not
 following android guidelines).  There is some weirdness going on with HTC
 also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other keypresses
 to get Google Now.
 
 I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some reason, I
 still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides.  Along with the
 MOTO X and some other models.
 
 About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half baked
 or really well done.  But in either way, you download the full package and
 then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and flashes
 it or you flash it manually.  Thankfully the process is not too painful and
 the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in some
 cases once a month.
 
 One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just the
 recovery and ROM.  Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out there.
 CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP.  TWRP is more graphical and supports the Open
 Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like flashing the
 ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and other
 stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project).
 
 With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup from
 within the recovery.  This is akin to creating an ISO image of your phone,
 so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM and don't
 like it, you can always re-image your phone back to it's previous state
 including all preferences and wallpapers that you have set.  It's a true
 image.
 
 Also read up on Titanium Backup.  That app is worth it's digital weight in
 gold!!  I use it regularly and almost every day.  It can do some freakishly
 amazing stuff!!
 
 In the end, if none of this custom ROM malarkey makes you happy, it's also
 very easy to revert back to stock and continue using it that way.
 
 For a vanilla experience with some bells and whistles over stock, try
 Cyanogenmod.  It's compiled from the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and
 has some really nifty features built in that I wish were in stock android.
 In fact a lot of stuff in stock comes from Cyanogen.  These guys are at
 the leading edge of Android Development.
 
 But there are some caveats with Cyanogen (www.get.cm)  Stable builds for
 the S4 and One don't exist, and you would have to run nightlies.  That can
 also mean flashing every night.  Thankfully there is a free app called
 Cyandelta on the play store that downloads only the delta's and flashes
 that, so instead of a 180 MB download every day, it's around 5-6 megs.  But
 then again, if a particular build of the nightly is working fine, then
 there is no real reason to upgrade.  But you know me, I like to inflict
 hurt on myself :)
 
 Hope that's not too overwhelming.  It may seem as such, but once you
 understand the basics, flashing ROMS and Kernels is really fun and you can
 really tailor your device to your particular usage needs.  Like I said, I
 value battery life, so I flashed the ROM and Kernel that gave the best
 battery life for me.  But at the same time, when I wanted to play games I
 wanted full performance.  Hence I chose Carbon Rom and Matri1x Kernel.
 
 I'll do some general research on the HTC one and will provide some
 suggestions on which Kernel and/or ROM you should start off with.  Speaking
 of which, the best path in the beginning is to stick to a customized stock
 ROM.  That's where they take the stock rom and tweak it to remove excessive
 bloat, add new features and tweak the speed.  You get the stock look and
 feel but with generally better performance and features.
 
 Till next time, take care!
 
 
 
 On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, this is good stuff.
 
 I've been going back and forth about S4 or One, and I could probably live
 with either.  The one thing that sort of annoyed me about the S4 was that
 it still has a hardware menu button, despite that going away in Android.
 Plus the Samsung software is just horrible.  While I could probably live
 with the default HTC software, no way I could deal with the Samsung crap.
 
 Part of what I'm struggling with is being overwhelmed with