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Guys.NFC? Enjoying the shares. Duncan On 09/20/2013 15:56, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that NFC is not useful...or even that it won't be one day. But, its promise is not fulfilled on a large scale yet as no one as made it indispensable to the masses. I have at least two devices that support NFC (and I bought them in part because of this feature), so I personally see the potential there. As far as I can tell, NFC is not a compelling technology yet because too many folks are getting along happily without it. The same with the touch-ID. Fingerprint readers aren't new...and, no one has shown them to be something most really want or need. It will be interesting to see if Apple can incorporate it into their devices in such a way to make it compelling. If they can, it will be yet another example of not invented here, but hey, we figured out how to make it really work for folks. I'm not a believer. On 9/20/2013 8:19 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, I'd wildly disagree on NFC. I use NFC frequently and frankly, it's one of the cooler phone technologies I've worked with. Using NFC tags I: set my thermostats on the way out the door with a swipe; auto-update calendar schedules, evernotes will auto-tag notes to NFC tags which for those of us with 'eh' memory is damn slick. On 2013-09-20 05:14, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The unwashed masses will always be ignorant. Having a beef with them will be counter productive. Monikers help sell things. A retina screen is no big deal to us, but to the unwashed masses it makes sure they get the high-resolution screen without having to remember all of the details. And I do give apple the credit for realizing that WE needed this in everything and starting to bring it out. But they certainly didn't invent high-resolution screens, but they are the main reason they are ubiquitous on tablets. If the touch-ID thing pans out, they won't (and shouldn't) get credit for a fingerprint reader but making is a thing we can use and depend on, they should get credit for, if it works, which remains to be seen. Still to this day no one has made NFC into a useful product. So who invented that is not really so important. On 9/20/2013 5:02 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: My beef in general is with people who don't understand the technology and believe the advertising that companies do. And let's not forget that Apple is the master of masking the underlying technology with a moniker that they call their own and making people believe that they were the ones who either invented it or are the first one to do it. But as I mentioned it really doesn't make a big difference in the end as long as the steady march of progress is being made but what really bothers me is the uneducated people out there. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
Near field communications It's basically a non contract or light touch method of exchanging data. On Sep 21, 2013 2:34 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Guys.NFC? Enjoying the shares. Duncan On 09/20/2013 15:56, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that NFC is not useful...or even that it won't be one day. But, its promise is not fulfilled on a large scale yet as no one as made it indispensable to the masses. I have at least two devices that support NFC (and I bought them in part because of this feature), so I personally see the potential there. As far as I can tell, NFC is not a compelling technology yet because too many folks are getting along happily without it. The same with the touch-ID. Fingerprint readers aren't new...and, no one has shown them to be something most really want or need. It will be interesting to see if Apple can incorporate it into their devices in such a way to make it compelling. If they can, it will be yet another example of not invented here, but hey, we figured out how to make it really work for folks. I'm not a believer. On 9/20/2013 8:19 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, I'd wildly disagree on NFC. I use NFC frequently and frankly, it's one of the cooler phone technologies I've worked with. Using NFC tags I: set my thermostats on the way out the door with a swipe; auto-update calendar schedules, evernotes will auto-tag notes to NFC tags which for those of us with 'eh' memory is damn slick. On 2013-09-20 05:14, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The unwashed masses will always be ignorant. Having a beef with them will be counter productive. Monikers help sell things. A retina screen is no big deal to us, but to the unwashed masses it makes sure they get the high-resolution screen without having to remember all of the details. And I do give apple the credit for realizing that WE needed this in everything and starting to bring it out. But they certainly didn't invent high-resolution screens, but they are the main reason they are ubiquitous on tablets. If the touch-ID thing pans out, they won't (and shouldn't) get credit for a fingerprint reader but making is a thing we can use and depend on, they should get credit for, if it works, which remains to be seen. Still to this day no one has made NFC into a useful product. So who invented that is not really so important. On 9/20/2013 5:02 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: My beef in general is with people who don't understand the technology and believe the advertising that companies do. And let's not forget that Apple is the master of masking the underlying technology with a moniker that they call their own and making people believe that they were the ones who either invented it or are the first one to do it. But as I mentioned it really doesn't make a big difference in the end as long as the steady march of progress is being made but what really bothers me is the uneducated people out there. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
And something Apple is unlikely to ever support since they're going with their own proprietary iBeacon protocol which is based on Bluetooth.Lowe Energy: http://gigaom.com/2013/09/10/with-ibeacon-apple-is-going-to-dump-on-nfc-and-embrace-the-internet-of-things/ Main difference is range and cost - iBeacon is higher in both. From a security standpoint, I don't think that's good news. There are already plenty of attacks against NFC that are ultimately limited because you have to get within a few centimeters of the chip. If that range is now tens of meters with iBeacon, it's a whole new class of problem. - Brian On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote: Near field communications It's basically a non contract or light touch method of exchanging data. On Sep 21, 2013 2:34 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Guys.NFC? Enjoying the shares. Duncan On 09/20/2013 15:56, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that NFC is not useful...or even that it won't be one day. But, its promise is not fulfilled on a large scale yet as no one as made it indispensable to the masses. I have at least two devices that support NFC (and I bought them in part because of this feature), so I personally see the potential there. As far as I can tell, NFC is not a compelling technology yet because too many folks are getting along happily without it. The same with the touch-ID. Fingerprint readers aren't new...and, no one has shown them to be something most really want or need. It will be interesting to see if Apple can incorporate it into their devices in such a way to make it compelling. If they can, it will be yet another example of not invented here, but hey, we figured out how to make it really work for folks. I'm not a believer. On 9/20/2013 8:19 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, I'd wildly disagree on NFC. I use NFC frequently and frankly, it's one of the cooler phone technologies I've worked with. Using NFC tags I: set my thermostats on the way out the door with a swipe; auto-update calendar schedules, evernotes will auto-tag notes to NFC tags which for those of us with 'eh' memory is damn slick. On 2013-09-20 05:14, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The unwashed masses will always be ignorant. Having a beef with them will be counter productive. Monikers help sell things. A retina screen is no big deal to us, but to the unwashed masses it makes sure they get the high-resolution screen without having to remember all of the details. And I do give apple the credit for realizing that WE needed this in everything and starting to bring it out. But they certainly didn't invent high-resolution screens, but they are the main reason they are ubiquitous on tablets. If the touch-ID thing pans out, they won't (and shouldn't) get credit for a fingerprint reader but making is a thing we can use and depend on, they should get credit for, if it works, which remains to be seen. Still to this day no one has made NFC into a useful product. So who invented that is not really so important. On 9/20/2013 5:02 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: My beef in general is with people who don't understand the technology and believe the advertising that companies do. And let's not forget that Apple is the master of masking the underlying technology with a moniker that they call their own and making people believe that they were the ones who either invented it or are the first one to do it. But as I mentioned it really doesn't make a big difference in the end as long as the steady march of progress is being made but what really bothers me is the uneducated people out there. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
Thanks List, I wiki'd NFC this AM and got these 3 sorta techie hits: * Near field communication http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication, a wireless communication technology * Nintendo Family Computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Family_Computer, the Japanese version of the Nintendo Entertainment System video game console * Network File Control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_File_Control, a networking technology I sorta figured in might be the 1st one. Reminds me of the Phillips Petro key-fob thinky of way back when. Aware that Starbucks is still trying to get this to work also. Yes, Brian, I get that Apple will 'rename it' and claim they invented it. Fine. Just marketing wars. Ho-Hum. :) I will read your link and wise-up to perhaps a future IBeacon! Jeez, I am still happy building 'white boxes' personally! Duncan On 09/21/2013 07:45, Brian Weeden wrote: And something Apple is unlikely to ever support since they're going with their own proprietary iBeacon protocol which is based on Bluetooth.Lowe Energy: http://gigaom.com/2013/09/10/with-ibeacon-apple-is-going-to-dump-on-nfc-and-embrace-the-internet-of-things/ Main difference is range and cost - iBeacon is higher in both. From a security standpoint, I don't think that's good news. There are already plenty of attacks against NFC that are ultimately limited because you have to get within a few centimeters of the chip. If that range is now tens of meters with iBeacon, it's a whole new class of problem. - Brian On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com wrote: Near field communications It's basically a non contract or light touch method of exchanging data. On Sep 21, 2013 2:34 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Guys.NFC? Enjoying the shares. Duncan On 09/20/2013 15:56, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that NFC is not useful...or even that it won't be one day. But, its promise is not fulfilled on a large scale yet as no one as made it indispensable to the masses. I have at least two devices that support NFC (and I bought them in part because of this feature), so I personally see the potential there. As far as I can tell, NFC is not a compelling technology yet because too many folks are getting along happily without it. The same with the touch-ID. Fingerprint readers aren't new...and, no one has shown them to be something most really want or need. It will be interesting to see if Apple can incorporate it into their devices in such a way to make it compelling. If they can, it will be yet another example of not invented here, but hey, we figured out how to make it really work for folks. I'm not a believer. On 9/20/2013 8:19 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, I'd wildly disagree on NFC. I use NFC frequently and frankly, it's one of the cooler phone technologies I've worked with. Using NFC tags I: set my thermostats on the way out the door with a swipe; auto-update calendar schedules, evernotes will auto-tag notes to NFC tags which for those of us with 'eh' memory is damn slick. On 2013-09-20 05:14, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The unwashed masses will always be ignorant. Having a beef with them will be counter productive. Monikers help sell things. A retina screen is no big deal to us, but to the unwashed masses it makes sure they get the high-resolution screen without having to remember all of the details. And I do give apple the credit for realizing that WE needed this in everything and starting to bring it out. But they certainly didn't invent high-resolution screens, but they are the main reason they are ubiquitous on tablets. If the touch-ID thing pans out, they won't (and shouldn't) get credit for a fingerprint reader but making is a thing we can use and depend on, they should get credit for, if it works, which remains to be seen. Still to this day no one has made NFC into a useful product. So who invented that is not really so important. On 9/20/2013 5:02 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: My beef in general is with people who don't understand the technology and believe the advertising that companies do. And let's not forget that Apple is the master of masking the underlying technology with a moniker that they call their own and making people believe that they were the ones who either invented it or are the first one to do it. But as I mentioned it really doesn't make a big difference in the end as long as the steady march of progress is being made but what really bothers me is the uneducated people out there. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from
Re: [H] iOS 7
So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: Why is it a problem to give them credit for making it all work? Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it. It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the case. Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may copy other people. Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
Well, I'd wildly disagree on NFC. I use NFC frequently and frankly, it's one of the cooler phone technologies I've worked with. Using NFC tags I: set my thermostats on the way out the door with a swipe; auto-update calendar schedules, evernotes will auto-tag notes to NFC tags which for those of us with 'eh' memory is damn slick. On 2013-09-20 05:14, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The unwashed masses will always be ignorant. Having a beef with them will be counter productive. Monikers help sell things. A retina screen is no big deal to us, but to the unwashed masses it makes sure they get the high-resolution screen without having to remember all of the details. And I do give apple the credit for realizing that WE needed this in everything and starting to bring it out. But they certainly didn't invent high-resolution screens, but they are the main reason they are ubiquitous on tablets. If the touch-ID thing pans out, they won't (and shouldn't) get credit for a fingerprint reader but making is a thing we can use and depend on, they should get credit for, if it works, which remains to be seen. Still to this day no one has made NFC into a useful product. So who invented that is not really so important. On 9/20/2013 5:02 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: My beef in general is with people who don't understand the technology and believe the advertising that companies do. And let's not forget that Apple is the master of masking the underlying technology with a moniker that they call their own and making people believe that they were the ones who either invented it or are the first one to do it. But as I mentioned it really doesn't make a big difference in the end as long as the steady march of progress is being made but what really bothers me is the uneducated people out there. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
IOS7 good: function seems to be nice, control center seems to be nice. Bad: my battery life on my Ipad4 has went to total shit. I'll have to figure that out, that's going to kill me. Dislike the folder popout; now instead of filling screen it's a smaller box that ou have to scroll to get all the items of. Dislike that idea. Icons kind of goofy/rainbow bright like. Like the function, some things are quite nice.. but for right now the battery life thing is making all the rest hard to judge. On 2013-09-20 04:20, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud.
Re: [H] iOS 7
Increased battery drain may be because they added a feature that allows apps to update in the background (ie, the multitasking that many said they wanted).. See this for how to disable it: http://www.tuaw.com/2013/09/18/how-to-stop-ios-7-from-destroying-your-iphones-battery-life/ - Brian On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:22 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: IOS7 good: function seems to be nice, control center seems to be nice. Bad: my battery life on my Ipad4 has went to total shit. I'll have to figure that out, that's going to kill me. Dislike the folder popout; now instead of filling screen it's a smaller box that ou have to scroll to get all the items of. Dislike that idea. Icons kind of goofy/rainbow bright like. Like the function, some things are quite nice.. but for right now the battery life thing is making all the rest hard to judge. On 2013-09-20 04:20, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud.
Re: [H] iOS 7
NFC can be used to simplify your life. I have a NFC tag right on my nightstand near my bed which sets my phone to silent and a whole host of other things so that it doesn't bother me at night. No need to futz around with settings. I also have a NFC Tag in the bathroom and near my door which sets it to my daily profile. A NFC tag in on my office table that sets it to my desired settings in the office. NFC payments is about the only way I haven't used NFC. Scanning NFC from passports or other things is cool, but alas, most are encrypted. :) On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that NFC is not useful...or even that it won't be one day. But, its promise is not fulfilled on a large scale yet as no one as made it indispensable to the masses. I have at least two devices that support NFC (and I bought them in part because of this feature), so I personally see the potential there. As far as I can tell, NFC is not a compelling technology yet because too many folks are getting along happily without it. The same with the touch-ID. Fingerprint readers aren't new...and, no one has shown them to be something most really want or need. It will be interesting to see if Apple can incorporate it into their devices in such a way to make it compelling. If they can, it will be yet another example of not invented here, but hey, we figured out how to make it really work for folks. I'm not a believer. On 9/20/2013 8:19 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, I'd wildly disagree on NFC. I use NFC frequently and frankly, it's one of the cooler phone technologies I've worked with. Using NFC tags I: set my thermostats on the way out the door with a swipe; auto-update calendar schedules, evernotes will auto-tag notes to NFC tags which for those of us with 'eh' memory is damn slick. On 2013-09-20 05:14, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The unwashed masses will always be ignorant. Having a beef with them will be counter productive. Monikers help sell things. A retina screen is no big deal to us, but to the unwashed masses it makes sure they get the high-resolution screen without having to remember all of the details. And I do give apple the credit for realizing that WE needed this in everything and starting to bring it out. But they certainly didn't invent high-resolution screens, but they are the main reason they are ubiquitous on tablets. If the touch-ID thing pans out, they won't (and shouldn't) get credit for a fingerprint reader but making is a thing we can use and depend on, they should get credit for, if it works, which remains to be seen. Still to this day no one has made NFC into a useful product. So who invented that is not really so important. On 9/20/2013 5:02 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: My beef in general is with people who don't understand the technology and believe the advertising that companies do. And let's not forget that Apple is the master of masking the underlying technology with a moniker that they call their own and making people believe that they were the ones who either invented it or are the first one to do it. But as I mentioned it really doesn't make a big difference in the end as long as the steady march of progress is being made but what really bothers me is the uneducated people out there. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] iOS 7
Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that NFC is not useful...or even that it won't be one day. But, its promise is not fulfilled on a large scale yet as no one as made it indispensable to the masses. I have at least two devices that support NFC (and I bought them in part because of this feature), so I personally see the potential there. As far as I can tell, NFC is not a compelling technology yet because too many folks are getting along happily without it. The same with the touch-ID. Fingerprint readers aren't new...and, no one has shown them to be something most really want or need. It will be interesting to see if Apple can incorporate it into their devices in such a way to make it compelling. If they can, it will be yet another example of not invented here, but hey, we figured out how to make it really work for folks. I'm not a believer. On 9/20/2013 8:19 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, I'd wildly disagree on NFC. I use NFC frequently and frankly, it's one of the cooler phone technologies I've worked with. Using NFC tags I: set my thermostats on the way out the door with a swipe; auto-update calendar schedules, evernotes will auto-tag notes to NFC tags which for those of us with 'eh' memory is damn slick. On 2013-09-20 05:14, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The unwashed masses will always be ignorant. Having a beef with them will be counter productive. Monikers help sell things. A retina screen is no big deal to us, but to the unwashed masses it makes sure they get the high-resolution screen without having to remember all of the details. And I do give apple the credit for realizing that WE needed this in everything and starting to bring it out. But they certainly didn't invent high-resolution screens, but they are the main reason they are ubiquitous on tablets. If the touch-ID thing pans out, they won't (and shouldn't) get credit for a fingerprint reader but making is a thing we can use and depend on, they should get credit for, if it works, which remains to be seen. Still to this day no one has made NFC into a useful product. So who invented that is not really so important. On 9/20/2013 5:02 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: My beef in general is with people who don't understand the technology and believe the advertising that companies do. And let's not forget that Apple is the master of masking the underlying technology with a moniker that they call their own and making people believe that they were the ones who either invented it or are the first one to do it. But as I mentioned it really doesn't make a big difference in the end as long as the steady march of progress is being made but what really bothers me is the uneducated people out there. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So your beef is with fanboys. Nobody likes fanboys. :) Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
Why is it a problem to give them credit for making it all work? Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it. It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the case. Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may copy other people. Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. Sent from my iPhone
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What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: Why is it a problem to give them credit for making it all work? Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it. It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the case. Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may copy other people. Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 03:25:52AM +0300, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. It looks like *ASS* but the functionality and performance are definitely better. It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the case. What's wrong with that, the consumer still benefits. Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may copy other people. The iPhone started it all, the 'screw the carrier' restricted bullsh*t here's a phone that actually does things! Now we have ios/android in the lead and blackberry on the way out which is great from where I stand. Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. ^ -- Bryan G. Seitz
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On 20 Sep 2013 08:26, Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com wrote: Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. Sent from my iPhone Smart predictive technology at it's best.