Re: H-Net* UPACARA PERINGATAN MALAM NISFU SYA'BAN - Syaikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah bin Baz

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Mohd Yaakub Mohd Yunus


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Sidi Shariff wrote:

 Assalamualaikum semua,

 Jawapan berikut menolak jawapan Wahhabi tentang isu Malam Nisfu
 Sya'ban.  Pada yang ingin menambahkan amal dipersilakan dan bagi yang
 terpesona dengan hujah Wahhabi anda bebas untuk memilih. Apa yang
 saya ingin kemukakan ialah: pendapat Wahhabi bukanlah yang paling
 authoritative, banyak kepincangan dan sering tidak selari dengan
 pendirian ulama Sunni muktabarah sepanjang zaman. Yang jelas Wahhabi
 memang termasuk di dalam 72 firqah yang sesat.  Kita juga berdoa
 negara Islam yang diharapkan akan bebas dari sebarang element
 Wahhabi.
 Militancy dan radicalism yang kini mencemar dunia Islam adalah hasil
 dari tafsiran bebas ulama Wahhabi akhir zaman. wasalam
 

 The Night of Mid-Sha`ban (laylat al-bara'a)

 Although the majority of the commentators consider the blessed
 night in the above verses to refer to the Night of Decree (laylat
 al-qadr) which is considered to be in the month of Ramadan, yet the
 commentaries also mention that this blessed night may be that of
 mid-Sha`ban (laylat al-bara'a). This view is based on the profusion
 of hadiths on the great merits of the latter. Consequently the
 Shari`a has commended observance of that night. Concerning
 supererogatory worship on the night of mid-Sha`ban,  Imam Suyuti says
 in his Haqiqat al-sunna wa al-bid`a:

 As for the night of mid-Sha`ban, it has great merit and it is
 desirable (mustahabb) to spend part of it in supererogatory
 worship.24

 Even Ibn Taymiyya -- the putative authority of Salafis --
 considered the night of mid-Sha`ban a night of superior merit in
 his Iqtida' al-sirat al-mustaqim:

 [Some] said: There is no difference between this night (mid-Sha`ban)
 and other nights of the year. However, the opinion of many of the
 people of learning, and that of the majority of our companions (i.e.
 the Hanbali school) and other than them is that it is a night of
 superior merit, and this is what is indicated by the words of Ahmad
 (ibn Hanbal), in view of the many ahadith which are transmitted
 concerning it, and in view of what confirms this from the words and
 deeds transmitted from the early generations (al-athar al-salafiyya).
 Some of its merits have been narrated in the books of hadith of the
 musnad and sunan types. This holds true even if other things have
 been forged concerning it.25

 Among the hadiths stressing the status of laylat al-bara'a are the
 following:

 1. Ibn Hibban narrated from Mu`adh ibn Jabal in his Sahih the
 following narration which the hadith scholar and editor of the Sahih
 Shu`ayb Arna'ut confirmed as sound:

 The Prophet said : yattali`u Allahu ila khalqihi fi laylati al-nisfi
 min sha`bana fa-yaghfiru li-jami`i khalqihi illa li mushrikin aw
 mushahin.

 Allah looks at His creation in the night of mid-Sha`ban and He
 forgives all His creation except for a mushrik (idolater) or a
 mushahin (one bent on hatred).26

 Haythami said that Tabarani also narrated it in his Kabir and Awsat
 with chains containing only trustworthy narrators, that is: sound
 (sahih) chains; Ibn Khuzayma included it in his Sahih, which has the
 same level of acceptance among the experts as Sahih Muslim; and even
 Albani included it in his Silsila sahiha!

 2. Tirmidhi and Ahmad narrate from `Abd Allah ibn `Amr, and al-Bazzar
 with a chain he graded as fair (hasan) through the great Tabi`i
 jurist al-Qasim ibn Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr al-Siddiq:

 Allah looks upon His creatures on the night of mid-Sha`ban and He
 forgives all His servants except two: one intent on hatred, and the
 homicide.

 3. Bayhaqi relates from `A'isha in Shu`ab al-iman with his chain of
 transmission:

 From `A'isha: She said: The Prophet stood up in prayer during part of
 the night and made his prostration so lengthy that I thought his soul
 had been taken back. When I saw this I got up and went to move his
 big toe, whereupon he moved, so I drew back. When he raised his head
 from prostration and finished praying, he said: O `A'isha, O fair
 little one (humayra')! Did you think that the Prophet had broken his
 agreement with you? She replied: No, by Allah, O Messenger of
 Allah, but I thought that your soul had been taken back 

RE: H-Net* boikot barang amerika

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Salehuddin Salleh (FPSSB)


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 dan jangan lupa pula pada sapa sapa yang bekerja untuk syarikat amerika
pegi
 resign. jangan dok kerja untuk puak nie.

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  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:20 PM
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  Subject: H-Net* boikot barang amerika
 
  Assalamua'laikum..
 
  Saudaraku semua, tiada guna kita berdemo menentang Amerika, kalau hanya
  sekadar berdemo.. tapi dimulut masih berasap rokok amerika, (lihat lah
  masa berdemo dimana-mana pun) masih memakai barangan amerika, mari
  sama-sama kita...boikot.. itu yang betul
 
  Boikot barangan Amerika - Misi Keamanan Sejagat
 
  KUALA LUMPUR, 19 Okt (Hrkh) - Bagi menyatakan bantahan terhadap serangan
  Amerika Syarikat ke atas Afghanistan, Misi Keamanan Sejagat (MKS) negeri
  Pulau Pinang menyeru umat Islam supaya memboikot perkhidmatan dan
barangan
  buatan Amerika.
 
  Ahli Jawatankuasa MKS Pulau Pinang, Muhyiddin Abdul Kadir berkata,
boikot
  barangan tersebut sama juga sebagaimana dilakukan semasa membantah
  kekejaman Israel terhadap rakyat Palestin.
 
  Kami menyeru umat Islam bertindak menjayakan boikot ke atas semua
  barangan Amerika, katanya.
 
  Antara barangan yang diseranaikan untuk diboikot adalah pakaian yang
  berjenama Live's, Lee Cooper, Wrangler, GA Blue, Dunhill, Nike, Puma.
 
  Makanan pula ialah Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC) McDonald's, AW, Pizza
  Hut, Shakey's Pizza dan Kenny Rogers Roasters. Begitu juga dengan
minuman
  seperti Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Sprite, 7 Up, AW Rootbeer.
 
  Selain itu mereka juga turut menyenaraikan minyak petrol iaitu Caltex,
  Esso dan Mobil.
 
  Dalam perkhidmatan Insurans pula pihaknya menyenaraikan (American
  Insurance Alliance/AIA, dan American Assurance Alliance.
 
  Barangan kosmetik berjenama Maybelline, Calvin Klein serta bateri
  Energizer dan Eveready disenaraikan juga.
 
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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Hamba Allah


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ASSALAMUALAIKUM...

Sebenarnya buruk dan kotor adalah dua perkataan yang
berbeza..

apa yang Zaidah maksudkan adalah kekotorannya bukan
buruknya..

zaidah berniat baik untuk meminta orang-orang yang
berada di bangunan itu untuk membersihkan tandas
mereka.. biar nampak bersih...

Kebersihan adalah cara hidup Islam...



--- Selamatlah MALAYSIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ASSALAMUALAIKUM..
 Teruknya pejabat PAS,Alhamdulillah
 Berjaga-jaga dalam percakapan,
 Dahulu rasulullah pun rumahnyapun beratapkan pohon
 tamar kalau dikut amat 
 berbeza dari zaman sekarang.Jika nak diikutkan
 rasulullah punya kedudukan 
 boleh dibina rumah mahligai mengapa tidak.kerana
 banyak unsur unsur riba 
 unsur unsur memuja yang silap puja menyengutukan
 Allah.
 Mengapa tidak dihina Rasullulah Nauzubillah.Selamat
 lah kami ya Allah,
 
 Kita dijadikan dari tanah apakah tanah itu kotor
 lainlah kalau kelantan itu 
 penuh dengan najis yang nampak dan tidak
 nampak.Mengapa dihina.Hidup kita 
 pun habis kuat 60-70 tahun.Lepas tu Padam duduk
 dalam tanah kalau selamat 
 dalam kubur Alhamdulillah.Kalau tidak sapalah nak
 bersih kan dalam kubur 
 yang penuh dengan azab jika kita asyik menghina
 orang .KOTOR DIPANDANGAN 
 MATA KITA TAK SEMESTINYA KOTOR PADA ALLAH.
 Melainkan yang ditegah sahaja.Islam nak kan
 kebersihan yang ditekan kan 
 ialah bersih dari najis.
 Contohnya:
 Zahir:  Perempuan itu nampak cantik bergincu berbaju
 separuh bogel.
 
 Batin:  Perempuan itu perosak manusia dan pengotor
 jiwa
 wassalam
 
 ADIK OSAMA MALAYSIA
 
 
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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik zaidah mohd

janganlah melenting apabila ditegur , Islam mengajar kita bersabar , sepatutnya kita perbaiki apa yang tidak baik.

From: "Selamatlah MALAYSIA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS 
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:00:41 + 
 
ASSALAMUALAIKUM.. 
Teruknya pejabat PAS,Alhamdulillah 
Berjaga-jaga dalam percakapan, 
Dahulu rasulullah pun rumahnyapun beratapkan pohon tamar kalau dikut 
amat 
berbeza dari zaman sekarang.Jika nak diikutkan rasulullah punya 
kedudukan 
boleh dibina rumah mahligai mengapa tidak.kerana banyak unsur unsur 
riba 
unsur unsur memuja yang silap puja menyengutukan Allah. 
Mengapa tidak dihina Rasullulah Nauzubillah.Selamat lah kami ya 
Allah, 
 
Kita dijadikan dari tanah apakah tanah itu kotor lainlah kalau 
kelantan itu 
penuh dengan najis yang nampak dan tidak nampak.Mengapa dihina.Hidup 
kita 
pun habis kuat 60-70 tahun.Lepas tu Padam duduk dalam tanah kalau 
selamat 
dalam kubur Alhamdulillah.Kalau tidak sapalah nak bersih kan dalam 
kubur 
yang penuh dengan azab jika kita asyik menghina orang .KOTOR 
DIPANDANGAN 
MATA KITA TAK SEMESTINYA KOTOR PADA ALLAH. 
Melainkan yang ditegah sahaja.Islam nak kan kebersihan yang ditekan 
kan 
ialah bersih dari najis. 
Contohnya: 
Zahir: Perempuan itu nampak cantik bergincu berbaju separuh bogel. 
 
Batin: Perempuan itu perosak manusia dan pengotor jiwa 
wassalam 
 
ADIK OSAMA MALAYSIA 
 
 
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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik sam dol


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Salam,

Mekdah, ada 3 cara nak handle benda ni.

Satu, macam mu buat sekarang - mail kat hnet saja.
Dua, hantar kat email menteri2 pas di kelate tu saja.
Tiga, buat kedua2 sekali.

Cara terbaik yang nombor 2. Kedua yg terbaik yg 
ke 3. 

Yang terpaling baik sekali, sebab mu selalu kesitu,
mu gi jumpa dengan sapa yg incharge kat situ, dan
kasi nasihat tolong peringat sikit. 
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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Pahang Junior

assalamualaikum
   berkatalah benar sekalipun pahit didengar. teguran kalau benda yang betul 
pun kene diterima.kalau melenting gak sama la dua kali lima ngan pihak Umno 
sana tuh.
mekdah,,,perpanjangkan email ni pada YB pas,,baru nampak kesan sikit 
kot.kalau tak berkesan kirim kat harakah.

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janganlah melenting apabila ditegur , Islam mengajar kita bersabar , sepatutnya kita perbaiki apa yang tidak baik.

From: "Selamatlah MALAYSIA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:00:41 +

ASSALAMUALAIKUM..
Teruknya pejabat PAS,Alhamdulillah
Berjaga-jaga dalam percakapan,
Dahulu rasulullah pun rumahnyapun beratapkan pohon tamar kalau dikut
amat
berbeza dari zaman sekarang.Jika nak diikutkan rasulullah punya
kedudukan
boleh dibina rumah mahligai mengapa tidak.kerana banyak unsur unsur
riba
unsur unsur memuja yang silap puja menyengutukan Allah.
Mengapa tidak dihina Rasullulah Nauzubillah.Selamat lah kami ya
Allah,

Kita dijadikan dari tanah apakah tanah itu kotor lainlah kalau
kelantan itu
penuh dengan najis yang nampak dan tidak nampak.Mengapa dihina.Hidup
kita
pun habis kuat 60-70 tahun.Lepas tu Padam duduk dalam tanah kalau
selamat
dalam kubur Alhamdulillah.Kalau tidak sapalah nak bersih kan dalam
kubur
yang penuh dengan azab jika kita asyik menghina orang .KOTOR
DIPANDANGAN
MATA KITA TAK SEMESTINYA KOTOR PADA ALLAH.
Melainkan yang ditegah sahaja.Islam nak kan kebersihan yang ditekan
kan
ialah bersih dari najis.
Contohnya:
Zahir: Perempuan itu nampak cantik bergincu berbaju separuh bogel.

Batin: Perempuan itu perosak manusia dan pengotor jiwa
wassalam

ADIK OSAMA MALAYSIA


From: "zaidah mohd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:11:42 +

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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Selamatlah MALAYSIA

ASSALAMUALAIKUM..
Teruknya pejabat PAS,Alhamdulillah
Berjaga-jaga dalam percakapan,
Dahulu rasulullah pun rumahnyapun beratapkan pohon tamar kalau dikut amat 
berbeza dari zaman sekarang.Jika nak diikutkan rasulullah punya kedudukan 
boleh dibina rumah mahligai mengapa tidak.kerana banyak unsur unsur riba 
unsur unsur memuja yang silap puja menyengutukan Allah.
Mengapa tidak dihina Rasullulah Nauzubillah.Selamat lah kami ya Allah,

Kita dijadikan dari tanah apakah tanah itu kotor lainlah kalau kelantan itu 
penuh dengan najis yang nampak dan tidak nampak.Mengapa dihina.Hidup kita 
pun habis kuat 60-70 tahun.Lepas tu Padam duduk dalam tanah kalau selamat 
dalam kubur Alhamdulillah.Kalau tidak sapalah nak bersih kan dalam kubur 
yang penuh dengan azab jika kita asyik menghina orang .KOTOR DIPANDANGAN 
MATA KITA TAK SEMESTINYA KOTOR PADA ALLAH.
Melainkan yang ditegah sahaja.Islam nak kan kebersihan yang ditekan kan 
ialah bersih dari najis.
Contohnya:
Zahir:  Perempuan itu nampak cantik bergincu berbaju separuh bogel.

Batin:  Perempuan itu perosak manusia dan pengotor jiwa
wassalam

ADIK OSAMA MALAYSIA


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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:11:42 +

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Re: H-Net* Ikim dot fm

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik nor ain


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itu lah dia radio yang nak merosak kan iman manusia.memang bagus ada 
hadis dan tazkirahtapi dlm pada masa yang sama lagu2 dangdut...lagu2 
cinta yang melalaikan tu yang penyanyinya org pompuan tak tutup aurat 
tutetap juga di dendangkan.nanti org kata tak kisah...rock2 
juga...dangdut2 jugatapi tazkirah pun dengar jugakan ke rosak hati 
manusia yang faham macam tu.






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Subject: H-Net* Ikim dot fm
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:19:30 +0800


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Salam,

Tahniah kepada ikim.fm yang memberi saluran
alternatif.  Ada tazkirah, perbincangan pasal IT,
seerah nabi (baguih betul story-telling ustaz tu),
ada hiburan, dll.

Ini nak kasi sikit feedback.

Kalau nak sampaikan hadis  tazkirah tu, kena
juga pilihbaca walaupun yg menghala ke hidung
pemerintah. Jangan asyik dok pilihbaca yang
menghala ke hidung pihak bukan gomen. Dan janganlah
dok ulang yang tu aje. Mustika hadis tu  kan tebal
dan banyak jilid - apakata buat satu slot untuk
bincang habiskan mustika hadis.

Satu lagi, tak apa ke pi main lagu2 gelek arab tu?
Sedap tu memang sedap, tapi boleh membuka pelbagai
interpretasi. Salah satu lagu tu, penyanyinya bukan
main gelek lagi kat pesta Era baru2 ni.

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Re: H-Net* Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn 'Abdillaah Ibn Baaz

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik apa nama


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Assalamualaikum,

Tapikan, tengok dia orang berbincang/berbahas ni
ada manafaat jugak.

Manafaat no 1: tanpa susah payah kita diberitahu
sumber rujukan2 pendapat yg mereka keluarkan. Kalu
rajin dan rasa berminat lagi, kita dah tahu kat mana
nak cari.

Manafaat no 2: dengan ilmu yg didapati, kita dapat
buat pilihan. Kalu tidak kita pun ajarlah kat anak
kita sebagaimana pak dan tok kita ajar kat kita.
Kalu betul, OK. Kalu tak betul, terus aje ia 
mengalir turun kecucucicit kita. Macam sesetengah 
orang dulu ajar AL-Fatihahlah - cara sebut Waladdho
tu, tak berubah dari dulu. Only sekarang, kita tau,
lidah tu kena senget ketepi sikit. 

Manafaat no 3: Kalu kita simpan dalam pelbagai 
folders dengan nama2 yg sesuai, jika perlu nanti,
senang aje kita capaitengok. So, pakat2 kita buka
folders dengan pelbagai tajuk, seperti; bahas mazhab,
tip kesihatan, soaljawab agama, politik, selingan,
hujjah merapu gah, berita seram dll. Dan kalu tak
suka, delete aje, no big deal.

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From: Mohd Yaakub Mohd Yunus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kamil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: H-Net* Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn 'Abdillaah Ibn Baaz

 Assalaamu'alaykum
 Terima kasih atas teguran saudara, saya terima dengan baik dan dan berlapang
 dada.
 Sekian Wassalaam
 
 Kamil wrote:
 
  Akum,
 
  DAH KATA DAHAde sorang mula jer...mulalah...
 
  Akhir2 bertekak...lepas tu keputusan tergantung. Kami ni cetek ilmu. Alim
  ulamak dan para Tabiáin  yg terbaik sebelum ini pun, bukannya ramai sangat
  yg kenal. Kalau kami tak baca kang, rasa bersalah pulak. Bila baca , mulalah
  pening. Susah juga nak berbincang dgn ORANG YG BERGURU PONDOK ni. Jangan
  zahirkan yg kita sesama Islam ni, berfikiran jumud.
 
  Bukannya saya nak degradekan pandangan anda mengenai hal ini, cuma biarlah
  ia mudah difahami dan perlulah diketahui...rata2 peminat dalam hizbi ini
  adalah umat Islam yg mengamalkan Islam secara sederhana (sorry, bukan macam
  UMNO parti separuh Islam tu erk...tapi yg macam semangat yg baru ditimbulkan
  pembangkang ulung negara kita). Macam yg lepas2, di akhir
  perbincangan...mulalah tuduh yg sidia ini munafik, sidia ini ini kurang
  Islam, sidia ini itu inilahsiap ade yg maki2 lagi nanti, perbincangan
  mende lak ni
 
  Ade baiknya jawab kpd yg mula tu (dan penggemar dalam hal ini) saja. Tak
  perlu libatkan orang lain. Saya bukannya tak suka, cuma yg
  boringnya...akhir2 perbincangan nanti tuadelah yg tak kene nanti.
 
  Ape pandangan moderator?
 
  Wassalam

 Assalaamu'alaykum
 Terima kasih atas teguran saudara, saya terima dengan baik dan dan berlapang
 dada.
 Sekian Wassalaam
 
 Kamil wrote:
 
  Akum,
 
  DAH KATA DAHAde sorang mula jer...mulalah...
 
  Akhir2 bertekak...lepas tu keputusan tergantung. Kami ni cetek ilmu. Alim
  ulamak dan para Tabiáin  yg terbaik sebelum ini pun, bukannya ramai sangat
  yg kenal. Kalau kami tak baca kang, rasa bersalah pulak. Bila baca , mulalah
  pening. Susah juga nak berbincang dgn ORANG YG BERGURU PONDOK ni. Jangan
  zahirkan yg kita sesama Islam ni, berfikiran jumud.
 
  Bukannya saya nak degradekan pandangan anda mengenai hal ini, cuma biarlah
  ia mudah difahami dan perlulah diketahui...rata2 peminat dalam hizbi ini
  adalah umat Islam yg mengamalkan Islam secara sederhana (sorry, bukan macam
  UMNO parti separuh Islam tu erk...tapi yg macam semangat yg baru ditimbulkan
  pembangkang ulung negara kita). Macam yg lepas2, di akhir
  perbincangan...mulalah tuduh yg sidia ini munafik, sidia ini ini kurang
  Islam, sidia ini itu inilahsiap ade yg maki2 lagi nanti, perbincangan
  mende lak ni
 
  Ade baiknya jawab kpd yg mula tu (dan penggemar dalam hal ini) saja. Tak
  perlu libatkan orang lain. Saya bukannya tak suka, cuma yg
  boringnya...akhir2 perbincangan nanti tuadelah yg tak kene nanti.
 
  Ape pandangan moderator?
 
  Wassalam

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H-Net* UPACARA PERINGATAN MALAM NISFU SYA'BAN

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Mohd Yaakub Mohd Yunus


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Assalamu'alaikum

Peserta Milis Hizbi-net...sebelum kajian tentang status hadeeth yg telah
diberikan izinkan saya memberi komen sikit. Menurut Sunnah Rasulullah
SAW baginda memang kerap berpuasa dibulan sha'baan dibawah ini
disertakan hadeeth sahih dari Bukhari dan Muslim. Thayyib

Jika anta nak ikut sunnah yg sebenar puasalah banyak-banyak sepanjang
bulan sha'baan ini. Jangan nak tunggu Nisfu Sya'baan. Yang ditentang
bukanya orang yg membuat amalan di Malam Nisfu Sya'baan, tetapi yg
ditentang ialah orang yg mengkhususkan sesuatu khas untuk nisfu
syaba'aan Dan apa yg dikhususkan itu pula tiada kaitannya dengan Sunnah
Rasulullah SAW. Kemudian dalam pengkhususan itu maka disebutlah Bahawa
sabda rasulullah SAW sesiapa yang berpusa pada sekian-sekian waktu
dibulan Sya'baan maka akan di berikan . Mana datang Hadeeth ini?
Kemudian ada pula yg menyuruh sembahyang 100 rakaat dengan dibacakan
sekian-sekian surah, Mana datangnya Hadeeth ini? Disuruh baca Surah
Yaseen 3 kali, Mana datangya hadeeth ini? Baca Doa Nabi Yunus  ada
beberapa ribu kali (ana dah lupa) maka dihindari kesusahannya sehihgga
nisfu Sya'baan yang tahu hadapan, Mana dalilnya. Akhi semua, banyak lagi
bertaburan Fadhilat bulan Rejab, Bulan Sya'baan, Bulan Ramadhan Fadhilat
Tarawikh,, Fadhilat-fadhlat membaca sekian surah Al-Quraan yg didasarkan
kepada hadeeth palsu. Dan kita sebagai orang awam pun percaya. Mana
ulama'-ulama' yg kononnya ingin menegakkan ASWJ. Kenapa Buku-buku
sedemikian bertaburan dipasaran.

Hujjah mereka Malam Nisfu Sya'baan ini diangkat amalan ke langit, kira
macam  tukar record book ler tu. Anjuran Manhaj Salafiyyah jika anda
ingin Record Book yg cemerlang, Konsisten / Istiqamah lah dalam
beribadah. Jangan hanya nak tunggu malam Isra' Mi'raj atau Malam Nisfu
Sya'baan baru nak beriya-riya. Di bawah ini adalah Article tentang
amalan Rasulullah SAW di Bulan Sya'baan.

Kepada Sidi, Imran dan Osman jika nak bagi Hadeeth pun sila berikan
Hadeeth No Berapa, Volume berapa., Baru senang kawan saya nak rujuk.
InsyAllah Status hadeeth tersebut akan diberikan, bila nak bagi ana tak
tahu. tertakluk kepda kecepatan rakan ana menganalisa. Jika hadeeth yg
diberikan sidi  itu bertaraf hadeeth sahih, maka ana berlapang dada
untuk menerimanya. Itulah Manhaj As-Salafiyyah. Kami mementingkan
kesahihan sesuatu hadeeth itu. Tentang bab Bid'a kalau nak diperhujahkan
pun boleh..but not now...

Sekian Wassalaam.


‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The Messenger [an
error
occurred while processing this directive] (peace and blessings of Allaah
be upon
him) used to fast until we thought he would never break his fast, and
not fast until
we thought he would never fast. I never saw the Messenger of Allaah
fasting for an
entire month except in Ramadaan, and I never saw him fast more than he
did in
Sha’baan.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 1833; Muslim, no. 1956).

According to a report narrated by Muslim (no. 1957), “He used to fast
all of
Sha’baan, he used to fast all but a little of Sha’baan.”

A group of scholars, including Ibn al-Mubaarak and others, thought that
the
Prophet [an error occurred while processing this directive] (peace and
blessings of
Allaah be upon him) did not fast all of Sha’baan, but he fasted most of
it. This is
supported by a report in Saheeh Muslim (no. 1954) narrated from
‘Aa’ishah (may
Allaah be pleased with her), who said: “I never knew of him – meaning
the Prophet
[an error occurred while processing this directive] (peace and blessings
of Allaah be
upon him) – fasting for any entire month apart from Ramadaan.” According
to
another report also narrated by Muslim (no. 1955), ‘Aa’ishah said: “I
never saw him
fast for any entire month from the time he came to Madeenah, apart from
Ramadaan.”

It was reported in al-Saheehayn that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Messenger of
Allaah
[an error occurred while processing this directive] (peace and blessings
of Allaah be
upon him) did not fast any entire month apart from Ramadaan.” (Narrated
by
al-Bukhaari, no. 1971, and Muslim, no. 1157). Ibn ‘Abbaas regarded it as
makrooh to fast
any entire month apart from Ramadaan. Ibn Hajar (may Allaah be pleased
with
him) said: “He observed more voluntary fasts in Sha’baan than in any
other month,
and he used to fast most of Sha’baan.”

Usaamah ibn Zayd (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: “I said,
‘O
Messenger of Allaah, I do not see you fasting in any other month like
you fast in
Sha’baan.’ He said, ‘That is a month to which people do not pay
attention,
between Rajab and Ramadaan, and it is a month in which deeds 

RE: H-Net* Cuti-cuti Malaysia

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Mohd, S. Yusof


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yeaa betul... indah khabar dr rupa. ini marina mahathir punya co.
saya dah masuk pun  masih ada belen belum dijual sesapa 
berminat? saya ada 3000points lagi utk dijual tawaran terbaik atau
rendah
sikit dr harga semasa ... mengikut share di bskl nya. 
fatboy

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 Tancoresorts ?? Indah nama dari keadaan yg sebenar. Saya hampir-hampir
 terkena. Nasib baik... Untuk yg nak bercuti direct pergi je tempat mana
 yang kita nak pergi, kalau tak ada @ pun dah penuh...carilah alternatif
 lain, @pun cari jer package percutian tang lain. Yang penting AVOID
 TANCO
 
 
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 Assalamualaikum,
 
 Kepada netters yang berhasrat untuk bercuti pada hujung tahun ini bolehlah
 
 berhubung dengan saya kerana InsyaAllah saya dapat memberi harga yang 
 menarik. Untuk mengetahui destinasi yang netters boleh kunjungi, sila
 pergi 
 ke www.tancoresorts.com -- Resorts Information. Tanco menggunakan sistem 
 points di dalam memberi kemudahan kepada ahlinya. Memandangkan points saya
 
 tidak begitu banyak, netters yg berhasrat diharapkan dapat berhubung
 dengan 
 saya seberapa segera yang boleh.
 Terima kasih.
 
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RE: H-Net* Alat penjimat petrol kenderaan

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Mohd, S. Yusof


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yee.. alat terbaru menjimatkan petrol bernama STORMBERG. dr jerman ada
warantty 7 tahun.
Utk menjimatkan minyak petrol baru sampai di Johor dan melaka shj.
nantikanlah 
kedatangannya ke KL. jika berminat boleh hubungi saya, saya boleh belikan
dan sertakan
pamphletnya...dgn cara2 pemasangannya. amat mudah... plug menjadi lebih
bersih dan
lebih bnyk apinya yg sentiasa bergeraj ke kiri dan ke kanan .. utk
mengelakkan plug 
menjadi panas! berminat hubungi saya utk keterangan lanjut.

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 Saya setuju, jumlah kereta semakin banyak di jalanraya, kenderaan awam tak
 secekap mana, naik motor... bahaya... Cuma nasihat saya bila bawa motor
 berhati-hati, yang memandu kereta, bertimbang rasalah kepada
 penunggang-penunggang motor. Mereka terdiri daripada pekerja-pekerja dan
 juga pelajar-pelajar maktab/universiti. Mereka pun ada destinasi yang
 hendak dituju dan keluarga tersayang sedang menunggu dirumah.
 
 At 03:49 PM 25/10/2001 +0800, you wrote:
 Assalamualaikum warahmatullah..
 
 mengikut statistik.. naik motor  berkemungkinan mengalami kemalangan
 jalan
 raya sebanyak 19 kali lebih tinggi dari naik kereta...  jangan sesiakan
 nyawa anda
 
 jarak rumah dan tempak keja saya cuma 10 km dan 15 minit. tapi sepanjang
 tahun ni penunggang motosikal yang dah mati eksident dah 3 orang..
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 Beli aje motor dlm lingkongan 110cc untuk ke tempat kerja. Kereta simpan
 kat rumah dan gunakan bila perlu aje (ketika hujan atau nak balik kampong
 dengan famili). Kalau guna motor jenis ni you can save 2/3 penggunaan
 petrol berbanding dengan kereta. For RM3.00 you can go to a distance of 
 100km.
 
 At 07:34 AM 24/10/2001 +0800, you wrote:
 
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 assalammualikum...
 cara yg paling berkesan untunk jimatkan petrol ialah dgn menaiki bas
 atau
 tumpang kawan kalau nak pergi keje atau time nak kuar lunch...kater
 simpan
 kat umah mesti safe minyak punyalah...heheheh
 
 
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 To: 'Ahmad' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: H-Net* Alat penjimat petrol kenderaan
 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:04:17 +0800
 
 
 Wa'alaikumussalam,
 
 Saya tak tahu kalau ada gadget lain yg boleh bantu menjimatkan
 penggunaan petrol kepada kereta kita. Tapi apa yg saya tahu ialah
 pastikan bahawa kereta kita dalam keadaan 'tiptop' supaya pembakaran
 bahan bakar kereta tu sempurna. Mungkin saudara boleh guna Fuel
 Injector/carburetor Treatment atau Petrol Treatment ataupun tukar
 kepada
 KN atau Cyclone air-filter utk memberi lebih kuasa sambil menjimatkan
 penggunaan petrol kepada kereta kita.
 
 Oleh itu maintain kereta tu baik2. Sayanglah kereta tu macam bini
 sendiri! He he...
 Dan jangan lupa pastikan juga tayar kereta tu cukup angin
 
 Mungkin pakar2 kereta dalam Hizbi Net boleh memberi nasihat yg lebih
 bernas  realistik dari saya!!  :-)
 
 Wassalam.
 
 
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RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Mohd, S. Yusof


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ye meme betul kata mek zaidah tu.. tak kire le pas ke ameno ke. saya
lebih rasa terkilan dan malu 
bila singgah ke masjid2 tetapinya tandasnya... masya'allah kotor sekali.
lebih2 lagi isteri saya 
allergic..  jadinya kalau tandas perempuan tu kotor mesti dia bersihkan
dulu. saya pun jika 
ingat selalu membawa sabun2 spare dlm kereta. jadi bila singgah ke masjid2
dan ke tandaas2nya sedekahle
biar terjaga dan bersih tandasnya. itu tpt setan suka duduk... kalau kotor
laggii le dia suka

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 Mekdah, ada 3 cara nak handle benda ni.
 
 Satu, macam mu buat sekarang - mail kat hnet saja.
 Dua, hantar kat email menteri2 pas di kelate tu saja.
 Tiga, buat kedua2 sekali.
 
 Cara terbaik yang nombor 2. Kedua yg terbaik yg 
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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Abang Ayang


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Assalamualaikum wbt ...

Apa ler hang nih sensitif sangat ... org tu tegur cara
baik ...hang tak boleh nak ambik cara positif sikit
ker ...

maaf kalau terkasar ..

wassalam
--- Selamatlah MALAYSIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ASSALAMUALAIKUM..
 Teruknya pejabat PAS,Alhamdulillah
 Berjaga-jaga dalam percakapan,
 Dahulu rasulullah pun rumahnyapun beratapkan pohon
 tamar kalau dikut amat 
 berbeza dari zaman sekarang.Jika nak diikutkan
 rasulullah punya kedudukan 
 boleh dibina rumah mahligai mengapa tidak.kerana
 banyak unsur unsur riba 
 unsur unsur memuja yang silap puja menyengutukan
 Allah.
 Mengapa tidak dihina Rasullulah Nauzubillah.Selamat
 lah kami ya Allah,
 
 Kita dijadikan dari tanah apakah tanah itu kotor
 lainlah kalau kelantan itu 
 penuh dengan najis yang nampak dan tidak
 nampak.Mengapa dihina.Hidup kita 
 pun habis kuat 60-70 tahun.Lepas tu Padam duduk
 dalam tanah kalau selamat 
 dalam kubur Alhamdulillah.Kalau tidak sapalah nak
 bersih kan dalam kubur 
 yang penuh dengan azab jika kita asyik menghina
 orang .KOTOR DIPANDANGAN 
 MATA KITA TAK SEMESTINYA KOTOR PADA ALLAH.
 Melainkan yang ditegah sahaja.Islam nak kan
 kebersihan yang ditekan kan 
 ialah bersih dari najis.
 Contohnya:
 Zahir:  Perempuan itu nampak cantik bergincu berbaju
 separuh bogel.
 
 Batin:  Perempuan itu perosak manusia dan pengotor
 jiwa
 wassalam
 
 ADIK OSAMA MALAYSIA
 
 
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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Jufrihisham Mohamed


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nak terima teguran dari orang lain. Kalau ye pun bawak-bawaklah berfikir
sikit. Yang mana baik tu terima ajelah jangan asyik nak membangkang aje.
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ker ...

maaf kalau terkasar ..

wassalam
--- Selamatlah MALAYSIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ASSALAMUALAIKUM..
 Teruknya pejabat PAS,Alhamdulillah
 Berjaga-jaga dalam percakapan,
 Dahulu rasulullah pun rumahnyapun beratapkan pohon
 tamar kalau dikut amat
 berbeza dari zaman sekarang.Jika nak diikutkan
 rasulullah punya kedudukan
 boleh dibina rumah mahligai mengapa tidak.kerana
 banyak unsur unsur riba
 unsur unsur memuja yang silap puja menyengutukan
 Allah.
 Mengapa tidak dihina Rasullulah Nauzubillah.Selamat
 lah kami ya Allah,

 Kita dijadikan dari tanah apakah tanah itu kotor
 lainlah kalau kelantan itu
 penuh dengan najis yang nampak dan tidak
 nampak.Mengapa dihina.Hidup kita
 pun habis kuat 60-70 tahun.Lepas tu Padam duduk
 dalam tanah kalau selamat
 dalam kubur Alhamdulillah.Kalau tidak sapalah nak
 bersih kan dalam kubur
 yang penuh dengan azab jika kita asyik menghina
 orang .KOTOR DIPANDANGAN
 MATA KITA TAK SEMESTINYA KOTOR PADA ALLAH.
 Melainkan yang ditegah sahaja.Islam nak kan
 kebersihan yang ditekan kan
 ialah bersih dari najis.
 Contohnya:
 Zahir:  Perempuan itu nampak cantik bergincu berbaju
 separuh bogel.

 Batin:  Perempuan itu perosak manusia dan pengotor
 jiwa
 wassalam

 ADIK OSAMA MALAYSIA


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H-Net* Families blown apart, infants dying. The terrible truth of this 'justwar'

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik azmi








Families blown apart,
infants dying. The terrible truth of this 'just war'

Richard Lloyd Parry in Quetta

25
 October 2001

Sami Ullah was
asleep when it happened, and so his friends and neighbours
had to tell him about the bomb that struck his house and what it did to him and
his family. How the American planes, which had been over earlier in the
evening, had returned after everyone went to bed and how, instead of the
Taliban base two miles away, they dropped their bombs on a residential area of
the town of Tarin Kot.

Mr Ullah's
injuries are obvious enough even now  deep cuts caused by the collapsing
house and the fragment of something in his belly that might be bomb shrapnel.
One of his cousins was also pulled alive from the rubble but no one else was. In
the 11 hours between the explosion and the moment when he finally regained
consciousness, the bodies of Mr Ullah's wife, his
four children, his parents, and five of his brothers and sisters had been
lifted from the rubble of their home and buried.

What do you say to a stranger who tells
you he has just lost every member of his immediate family? All you can decently
do is ask questions.

When did it happen? On
Friday night or early Saturday morning. Where? In a
suburb of Tarin Kot,
capital of the Afghan province of Oruzgan. And why? But Mr
Ullah, who is not familiar with the phrase
collateral damage or just war
does not have an answer.

In the 19 days of the bombing campaign,
many terrible things have been reported but the scenes at the Al-Khidmat Al-Hajeri hospital, where
Mr Ullah lay last night, are the most pathetic I have
seen. In one ward lay a woman named Dery Gul, about 30 years old, with her 10-year-old daughter, Najimu, and a baby named Hameed Ullah. The little girls have bruised and cut faces; the
cheek of the baby is cut neatly in a T shape, as if by
a knife. But to understand how lucky they were you only have to look at their
mother.

Her face is half-covered with bandages,
her arm wrapped in plaster. The bomb burned her eyes, says the
doctor. The whole right side of her body is burned. The reason Ms Gul is so battered and her daughters so lightly injured,
they say, is because she cradled them.

From the Pakistani city of Quetta, where the injured people were carried
late on Tuesday, the town of Tarin Kot is just a dot in the middle of the map
of Afghanistan, traversed by a single road, surrounded
by contour lines. But even if it amounts to no more than a few thousand mud
houses with a handful of administrative buildings, it is a provincial capital
 an Afghan York or Norwich. Yes, the people in the hospital
yesterday said, of course there were Taliban there; but, no, they were miles
away from Sami Ullah, Dery Gul, the little girls and
their dead relatives.

There had been bombing earlier in the evening,
Sami Ullah said, and the
military camp had been hit. There were four bombs that hit the
Taliban, he said, but many more bombs fell on the houses.

While some of the villagers were pulling
their neighbours out of the rubble, more bombs had
fallen, and more people had been hurt  about 10 people were
injured, and 20 were killed. But the danger appeared to have passed by
the time the family went to sleep. If the planes roared overhead, they did not
wake them and perhaps those who died  12 in Sami
Ullah's house, eight in the home of the mother and
her girls  did not even know what had happened to them.

What then went wrong? The Pentagon has
already admitted this week bombing an old people's home in Herat with a simple targeting error. Two weeks
ago, bombs killed dozens in the village of Karam where, according to the local people,
there had once been an Osama bin Laden camp which had moved years before. Other
stories like it suggest that in some cases American intelligence is simply out
of date.

But there is a third possibility 
that the Taliban are deliberately moving military personnel and equipment close
to civilian areas, turning their oblivious inhabitants into de facto human
shields.

In another hospital in Quetta yesterday, a nurse told of how nine days
ago the Taliban had turned up at her family's house and ordered them to leave.
They said it was for our own safety, because there was a barracks a few
hundred metres away, she said.

But after we had left they moved
Taliban soldiers in and stayed there themselves. Afterwards the bombs did fall,
and my house was destroyed and the civilian people who stayed behind were hurt
too.

We heard the bombs falling
often, said Mr Ullah, as I start to run out of
questions, but we didn't feel afraid because everyone said that American
bombs were accurate, and that they would bomb the Talibs,
but not the innocent people.

The American broadcasters have a phrase
which they repeat in reporting civilian casualties in Afghanistan: The claims cannot be
independently confirmed. And, of course, there is no way to check on
anything that the people at the Al-Khidmat Al-Hajeri hospital say.

But if this 

H-Net* Robert Fisk: Farewell to democracy in Pakistan

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik azmi








Robert Fisk: Farewell to democracy in Pakistan

'Far better to have a Mubarak or King Fahd
than let Muslims vote for a real government that might oppose US policies'

26
 October 2001

Armoured warefare
schools, signals headquarters, artillery ranges, military museums, cavalry
lines, infantry battalion compounds... every few hundred yards in every city,
you come across them. Driving around Pakistan is like touring a barracks.

Cross the Indus river at Attock and the thump of shellfire changes the air pressure
as General Pervez Musharraf's
tanks move down the range. Along the roadsides are artillery pieces dating back
to the Raj, 45-pounders and French armour and old Sherman tanks on concrete plinths to remind
Pakistanis of their heroic martial past.

Their national defence journal carries
stirring tales by former chiefs of staff and extracts from the 1962 war diaries
of the East Pakistan Rifles. And this is supposed to be a nation threatened
with Islamic revolution?

It's an odd phenomenon, but there are
times when the West seems to be more worried about the Islamisation'' of Pakistan than Pakistanis are themselves.
For has a military dictatorship ever been more blessed than that of General Musharraf? General Zia-ul-Haq was
held in contempt by the West when he hanged prime minister
Bhutto  but he was elevated to ally and friend
the moment that we needed his help in the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan. However, by 1993 Pakistan was almost
declared a state sponsor of terrorism'' by the United States because of
its support for Kashmiri Muslim guerrillas.

When President Clinton arrived in the
subcontinent last year, he paid a state visit to India but gave General Musharraf  who had still to declare himself
president  only a few hours, favouring
Pakistan with a one-day return trip, a lecture on the evils of Osama bin Laden
and an appeal to General Musharraf not to hang the
prime minister, Nawaz Sharif.

Nor can General Musharraf
have been too pleased with Colin Powell's ode to liberty last January.
There should be no question in any world leader's mind that the most
essential ingredient for success in this 21st century is a free people and a
government that derives its right to govern from the consent of such people,''
the US Secretary of State announced: ...America stands ready to help any country that
wishes to join the democratic world.''

Then came 11 September and General Powell
produced a new song sheet. President Bush,'' he told us on 16 October,
asked me... to demonstrate our enduring commitment to our relationship
with Pakistan... we are also looking forward to strengthening our co-operation
on a full range of bilateral and regional issues... we're truly at the
beginning of a strengthened relationship, a relationship that will grow and
thrive in the months and years ahead.'' All of which just goes to show what the
loan of a few air bases and the arrest of a few government-sponsored Islamists can do. General Musharraf
had taken bold and courageous action against international
terrorism.

And in the blinking of an eye, there was
General Powell promising to take up the Kashmir dispute with India  the very nation that almost
persuaded America's State Department to put Pakistan on its terrorism list in
1992. Newsweek outlined the US government's view with alarming, if
unconscious, frankness. It may be a good thing that Pakistan is ruled by a friendly military
dictator,'' the magazine concluded, rather than what could well be a
hostile democracy.''

This, of course, is the very policy that
dictates Washington's relations with the Arab world. Far
better to have a Mubarak or a King Abdullah or a King Fahd running the show
than to let the Arabs vote for a real government that might oppose US policies
in the region.

Corrupt, lawless, drug-ridden, and
inherently unstable Pakistan may be, but General Musharraf
allows a kind of freedom of speech to continue. Anyone used to the arid wastes
of Arab journalism can only be surprised by the debate in the Pakistani press,
the often violent anti-Musharraf views expressed in
the letters pages and the columnists who argue forcefully for a return to
democracy. If General Musharraf has to allow Islamists their freedom to let off steam''  as
Pakistanis like to say  then he has to give equal space to the
democrats.

Aqil Shah put it very well when he wrote in
Lahore's Friday Times last week
that, by allying himself with America's War on Terror'', General Musharraf had secured de facto international acceptance for
his 1999 coup. Suddenly, all he had wished for  the lifting of sanctions,
massive funding for Pakistan's crumbling industry, IMF loans, a $375m
(£263m) debt rescheduling and humanitarian aid  has been given him.

While General Powell mutters a few words
about political freedom  and none at all about Pakistan's nuclear tests
 we hear no more of General Musharraf's widely
publicised roadmap'' to democracy.

The problem, as Mr Shah points
out, is that future 

RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

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ye meme betul kata mek zaidah tu.. tak kire le pas ke ameno ke. saya 
lebih rasa terkilan dan malu 
bila singgah ke masjid2 tetapinya tandasnya... masya'allah kotor sekali. 
lebih2 lagi isteri saya 
allergic.. jadinya kalau tandas perempuan tu kotor mesti dia bersihkan 
dulu. saya pun jika 
ingat selalu membawa sabun2 spare dlm kereta. jadi bila singgah ke masjid2 
dan ke tandaas2nya sedekahle 
biar terjaga dan bersih tandasnya. itu tpt setan suka duduk... kalau kotor 
laggii le dia suka 
 
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  Salam, 
  
  Mekdah, ada 3 cara nak handle benda ni. 
  
  Satu, macam mu buat sekarang - mail kat hnet saja. 
  Dua, hantar kat email menteri2 pas di kelate tu saja. 
  Tiga, buat kedua2 sekali. 
  
  Cara terbaik yang nombor 2. Kedua yg terbaik yg 
  ke 3. 
  
  Yang terpaling baik sekali, sebab mu selalu kesitu, 
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H-Net* Taliban execute captured Afghan commander

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KABUL: Former Afghan resistance commander Abdul Haq
was executed near Kabul on Friday hours after his
capture, a Taliban spokesman said.

He was shot with a kalashnikov automatic rifle around
1 pm, Abdul Hanan Hemat, head of the Taliban's
Bakhter information agency said.

Hemat said two other people who were detained with
Abdul Haq, a hero of the Afghan resistance war against
the Soviet occupation from 1979-89, were executed with
him. The execution was carried out on the outskirts of
Kabul, the official said.

Abdul Haq was detained in Afghanistan on Friday. He
was reportedly on a mission to establish support for
an uprising against the Taliban.

Hemat said Abdul Haq and the two others were accused
of spreading US propaganda and trying to encourage
people to rebel.

Based on a ulema warrant which calls for the death
penalty for anyone spying for the United States, they
were shot dead, the official told AFP.

He was referring to a fatwa, or religious edict,
issued by Islamic clerics or ulema, at a special
council in Kabul last month.

Hemat said Haq and his friends had been intercepted in
the village of Ali Shir in the Azro district of Logar
province.

Taliban troops went to the area and put them under
siege. Haq and his men resisted and started fighting,
Hemat said.

After a while two helicopters and one American jet
came into the area and started firing rockets. The
helicopters tried to land and rescue them but they
failed, he said.

Hemat said Haq had been carrying several satellite
phones a large amount of cash, in dollars, and
documents containing the names of his supporters.

We also seized some documents which showed which
people were working for him. These are very important
and they will be very useful to us.

Hemat said the Taliban believed Abdul Haq was
encouraging people to defect from the hardline Islamic
militia which is under US-led attack for its refusal
to hand over alleged terrorist Osama Bin Laden.
( AFP ) 



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H-Net* Hekmatyar in talks for a united front against US

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TEHRAN: Former Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar
claimed on Friday to be in talks with the Taliban and
his one-time enemies in the opposition Northern
Alliance on a united front to defend Afghanistan
from the US-led military campaign.

We are in negotiations with the Taliban, in Kabul,
Kandahar, Baraki, Jalalabad, but also in Peshawar
(Pakistan) to create a united front. Mullah Omar is
being kept up to date on the progress, said the head
of the hardline Islamist Hezb-i-Islami, who lives in
exile in Tehran.

We are also in contact with the Northern Alliance
forces, with all those in the interior and exterior of
Afghanistan, who are involved in the conflict. The
leaders of the Northern Alliance had hoped for the
collapse of the Taliban in the first days, even the
first hours, of the American attacks, he said.

They have now understood that was not easy.

Hekmatyar added that the object of these discussions
was to rally all those who want to defend our
country, but did not explicitly name which opposition
leaders he had contacted.

It is not a question of already distributing
ministerial posts (in a post-Taliban government), or
of who will control the region, he said.

He said that his Hezb-i-Islami forces were very
numerous, especially in the provinces of Nangarhar,
Lugar, Jalalabad and Bamian but denied that he wanted
to eventually take control of the country.

An ethnic Pashtun, Hekmatyar fought against Soviet
occupation in the 1980s and then against his Tajik
rival, the late Ahmed Shah Masood, when the communist
government collapsed in 1992 and both factions entered
Kabul.

Much of Kabul was destroyed when Hekmatyar was
excluded from the government led by Burhanuddin
Rabbani, who himself was ousted by the Taliban in 1996
but is still recognised as Afghan president by the
United Nations.

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H-Net* U.S. war turns ex-allies into enemies-at-arms

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik hadi hadad


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The U.S. should have been thankful for our help, not
the other way around, .The U.S. gave us a few
Stinger missiles. We gave them 1.5 million martyrs.

Gulbuddin Hekmatyar 


Amerika sepatutnya berterima kasih diatas pertolongan
kami, bukan sebaliknya. Amerika memberi kami beberapa
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H-Net* Ulema reject Jirga plan, back Taliban

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik azmi









 
  
  Ulema reject Jirga plan, back Taliban
  
 
 
  
  
   



   
  
   Naveed Siddiqui
  
 
 
  
   Updated
  on 10/26/2001 11:23:54 AM
  
 
 
  
  
  
 
 
  
  PESHAWAR: Strongly rejecting the
  so-called jirga named as Assembly for Peace and
  National Unity of Afghanistan (APNUA) convened to bring broad-based set up in
  Kabul here at Nishtar Hall, Afghan and Pakistan
  Defence Council (APDC) warned the pro-Zahir Shah, Pir Syed Ahmed Gilani, to immediately stop conference and leave
  Peshawar. 
  These views were
  expressed by the participants of the protest demonstration held here
  Thursday, which was organised by two main component
  parties in Afghan and Pakistan Defence Council (APDC), Jamaat-i-Islami
  (JI) and Jamiat-i-Ulema-i-Islam (JUI). 
  The protest demo
  started from Jamia mosque Qasim
  Ali Khan Qissa Khawani Bazar converted into a rally in front of Post Graduate
  Medical Institute Lady Reading Hospital (LRH) to protest the holding of jirga in City by Pir Gilani. 
  The enraged
  activists of JUI and JI drawn from city as well as outskirts of provincial metropolice were chanting anti-US and anti-Musharraf slogans. 
  Addressing the
  gathering JI Provincial Amir, Prof. Mohammad Ibrahim
  Khan, has reaffirmed his stance regarding the Afghan issue and said that
  Taliban are legitimate rulers of Afghanistan who ruled on 90 per cent of
  territory, adding no alternate imposed set-up would be accepted from outside.
  
  He asked the United States to learn lesson from the harsh defeat and
  destruction of former Soviet Union by Afghan Mujahideen
  who offered their lives to save their motherland. 
  We would never
  accept the establishment of former King Mohammad Zahir
  Shah government in Afghanistan because his and his accomplices
  hands are soaked with the blood of innocent Afghans , Prof Ibrahim added. 
  JI Amir said the
  traitor Zahir Shah took shelter in Rome (Italy) as self-exiled since 1973 but now he hatched a
  conspiracy under US umbrella to capture Afghanistan through holding such jirga
  in Nishtar Hall. 
  He strongly
  condemned the US-led offensive and barbarous bombardment on civilians in Kandahar, Kabul, Jalalabad, Mazari Sharif which killed tens
  of hundred innocent Afghan people including women and children. 
  Musharraf committed immense mistake for extending support
  to US-led military strikes on Afghanistan as present Pak-regime is a part of such brutal
  act against the supreme national interest that would be left drastic effects
  on the region in future, JI added. 
  Prof. Ibrahim warned the Governor to immediately stop Pir Ahmed Gailani from holding
  APNUA jirga and oust, if it fails to do so in
  future, otherwise religious parties would take stern action after getting
  green signal from high command. 
  Speaking on the
  occasion, Provincial Amir of JUI Maulana Amanullah said jirga would
  leave serious consequences on Pakistan besides South Asian Region and would led to colossal massacre in Afghanistan. 
  In past JUI
  Secretary General, Maulana Fazlur
  Rehman,
  had apprised the President Musharraf about the
  current critical situation but due to government hegemonic attitude, entire
  country is heading towards anarchy, he added. 
  Hakim Abdul Waheed, APDC President and Provincial naib-Amir
  of JI, was of the view that majority of people have not backing government
  decision and termed the government as part of US-led military coalition
  working on American agenda against national integrity. 
  He denounced the
  steps regarding using Pasni, Dalbandin
  and Jaccobabad airports as launching pad for
  attacking aerial raids to track down Osama bin Ladin, prime suspect in US
  bombings, adding the government is misguiding masses through electronic media
  paving a way for American interest. 
  America has let loose a reign of terror to curb so-
  called terrorism in Afghanistan, which is fierce aggression on innocent Afghan. 
  President Afghan
  Defence Council maintained that during past 50 years, Pakistan experienced anti-national governments of Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif who handed over Yousaf Ramzi and Aimal Kansi to America for few dollars. 
  Meanwhile, talking
  to The Frontier Post Sheikhul Hadith, Maulana Hassan Jan said
  the present Taliban government is legitimate, in accordance with Shariat law and majority-backing. 
  We would not
  accept outside imposed set-up in Afghanistan . 
  He asked President Musharraf to review policy regarding allowing Pakistan's air bases and other military facilities
  against Afghanistan. 
  
 



 
  
  
  
 









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H-Net* U.S. war turns ex-allies into enemies-at-arms

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik hadi hadad


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U.S. war turns ex-allies into enemies-at-arms

  
By Tom Hundley
Tribune foreign correspondent
Published October 25, 2001


TEHRAN -- The cockroach creeping down his guest's
sleeve caught the eye of one-time warlord and former
Afghan Prime Minister Gulbuddin Hikmatyar. He signaled
for an aide who appeared with an aerosol can of
pesticide. The aide, an elderly man in a skullcap,
bowed deeply and--pt--dispatched the critter.

That done, Hikmatyar smiled sweetly beneath his black
turban and continued his thought.

 
 

  
 
 
  
 

 
America will be defeated, he assured his visitor.
We believe that the Americans are doomed to repeat
the Russian experience in Afghanistan.

Not too long ago, Hikmatyar, 53, was a CIA poster boy,
a feared and respected mujahedeen leader in the jihad
against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. His
guerrillas played a major role in the Soviet defeat
and afterward he became prime minister in the
government of Burhanuddin Rabbani, the former
president who is now the leader of the Jamaat-e
Islami, the main component of the anti-Taliban
Northern Alliance.

Both Rabbani and Hikmatyar were ousted by the Taliban
in the mid-1990s, but these days the two former allies
are sworn enemies, with Rabbani eager to do the
bidding of his new American backers while Hikmatyar
says he is sending his holy warriors to stand
shoulder to shoulder with their Taliban brothers.

The two men expect to be key figures in whatever
emerges from the rubble of America's war against
Afghanistan. They are only two among several dozen
tribal leaders, warlords, drug kingpins, mullahs,
sundry foreign intelligence agencies and an ex-king
who are angling for a piece of the post-Taliban
action. This mix leads some analysts to believe that
winning the war against the Taliban will be the easy
part; constructing some semblance of a coherent nation
out of this benighted land will be much harder.

Iran becomes political hub

Iran, which plays host to a number of rival Afghan
exile groups and has a keen national interest in the
outcome of all this, has become a hub of political
activity. One of the focal points is Hikmatyar's
down-at-the-heels villa in north Tehran, which in
recent days has received a steady stream of diplomats,
journalists and other visitors.

The beaming warlord is a gracious host. Yes, he tells
the journalists, he knew Osama bin Laden well during
the jihad days against the Russians. And while bin
Laden and Hikmatyar became political rivals over the
course of the civil war that followed, it seems they
have remained ideological clones.

I see no difference between what happened in New York
and Washington and what the United States is now doing
in Afghanistan, Hikmatyar said.

Who gives America the right to kill innocent
civilians in Afghanistan? he inquired.

The U.S. should solve its problem with bid Laden
outside Afghanistan. It should do it by removing its
troops from Saudi Arabia, by lifting the sanctions
against Iraq, and by stopping the killing of the
innocent people of Palestine.

Echoes of bin Laden

When it was noted that bin Laden raised these same
points in the videotape he released right after the
U.S. launched its first air strikes against
Afghanistan, Hikmatyar gave a beatific, bin Laden-like
smile.

If I am repeating what he said, maybe it is because
some of the things he said are rational and logical.
Ask yourself why the U.S. flag is burned all over the
world, he said.

Like bin Laden, Hikmatyar was a beneficiary of
American largess when the Carter administration
decided in 1979 to orchestrate an enormous covert
operation to arm and finance a holy war against the
Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

The project was a success. A humiliated Soviet army
was forced to pull out of Afghanistan a decade later.
But if it was gratitude the U.S. expected from its
former mujahedeen proteges, it was never forthcoming
from Hikmatyar.

Disdain for America

The U.S. should have been thankful for our help, not
the other way around, he said. The U.S. gave us a
few Stinger missiles. We gave them 1.5 million
martyrs.

The way Hikmatyar sees it, U.S. power and influence
were on the wane in the post-Vietnam era. The Soviet
Union was ascendant, and when Moscow invaded
Afghanistan, U.S. control of its Middle Eastern oil
supplies was suddenly in danger.

But after a decade of war against the Afghan
mujahedeen, it was the Soviet Union on the brink of
collapse and the U.S. poised to become the planet's
lone superpower. The U.S. showed its gratitude, said
Hikmatyar, by turning its back on 

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H-Net* Taliban claim capture of Afghan mujahedin legend

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Taliban claim capture of Afghan mujahedin legend 

ISLAMABAD, Oct 26 (AFP) - The Taliban said it captured
renowned Afghan guerrilla commander Abdul Haq on
Friday after fighting off US military efforts to save
the resistance figurehead.

Taliban spokesmen, quoted by the Afghan Islamic Press
(AIP), said the hero of the mujahedin campaign against
the Soviet occupation from 1979-89, was captured as he
attempted to escape a two-day siege on a horse.

US military helicopters answered a satellite telephone
appeal from Abdul Haq to provide bombing cover but he
still could not get away, the spokesmen were quoted as
saying.

Fifty of Abdul Haq's followers were still surrounded
in Azro, a town in the eastern province of Logar,
according to the Taliban, who added there were
suspicions foreigners were among them.

A senior Taliban spokesman in Kabul said he was
investigating rumours of the capture. Abdul Haq's
office in Pakistan was unaware of the report and would
not comment.

The AIP report said the Taliban considered the capture
of Abdul Haq a major triumph, even though the
one-footed commander had been living in exile for
several years as he pursued business interests abroad.

It is unclear why he had returned to Afghanistan or
whether he was cooperating with the opposition forces
arrayed against the Taliban.

But earlier this month he criticised the US airstrikes
on Taliban targets, telling AFP they were damaging his
efforts to persuade good Taliban to rally to the
opposition cause.

Abdul Haq and four associates were caught at 2:30am
(2130 GMT Thursday) in Azro, said one Taliban
spokesman based in the eastern city of Jalalabad.

We laid a secret seige for two days and we have
managed to arrest Commander Abdul Haq and his
companions, the Taliban spokesman told AIP.

During the siege American helicopters carried out
intense bombing to enable Commander Haq to escape but
we arrested him at 2.30 am when he tried to escape,
he added.

The siege of around 50 associates of commander Abdul
Haq is continuing, a Taliban spokesman was quoted as
saying in a later AIP report.

Abdul Haq had been moved to Pul-i-Alam in Logar
province after helicopters came looking for him.

Commander Abdul Haq was trying to escape on a horse
when he was arrested. We have also taken into
possession two pickups and a Landcruiser, the
spokesman said.

Abdul Haq called the Americans through his satellite
phone asking them for a bombardment. American planes
pounded the area and two Taliban soldiers were injured
and a pickup was destroyed.

We have not arrested any foreigners but there is a
possibility that there may be some foreigners among
the 50 people under siege, the spokesman told 

AIP said the Taliban were congratulating each other
over the arrest, which they consider a major
success. However Taliban Education Minister Amir Khan
Muttaqi told AFP he was still investigating rumours of
the capture. 

Abdul Haq made his reputation fighting the Red Army in
and around Kabul. The Soviets were finally forced out
of Afghanistan in 1989 after a ten-year war with
guerrillas backed by the United States, Saudi Arabia
and Pakistan.

After the collapse of a Moscow-backed government in
Kabul in 1992, Abdul Haq was made security minister in
the interim muhahedin government, but he quickly
pulled out of politics to set up an import-export
company in the Gulf and a home in London.

But after staying out of the factional infighting and
civil wars of the 1990s, the ethnic Pashtun commander
was reported to be preparing a political comeback. 




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H-Net* Mulla Zaeef: the man who tried to resolve the OBL issue

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik hadi hadad


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Mulla Zaeef: the man who tried to resolve the OBL
issue 

http://www.afghan-web.com/aop/today.html

Imtiaz Gul says it seems the US would have attacked
Afghanistan with or without the September 11 events 

The Friday Times (Pakistan)
October 26 - November 1, 2001

On September 5, six days before the events of
September 11, the US spurned a Taliban offer to work
out a face-saving mechanism to resolve the issue of
Osama bin Ladin, TFT has learnt from top sources. 

The offer was made to Zalmay Khalilzad, Special
Assistant to the US President for Near East and South
Asia at the National Security Council, by the Taliban
ambassador to Pakistan, Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef. 

Khalilzad, an Afghan-American and formerly of RAND
Corporation has been the most vocal critic of the
Taliban. In a January 2000 article in the Washington
Quarterly , he proposed a complete disengagement of
the US from the Taliban, stressing that Washington
must put the heat on the militia through various
means, including active support of the anti-Taliban
forces in that country. “Either you turn him over to
us now or face the consequences,” Khalilzad is said to
have told Zaeef bluntly. Sources say Khalilzad was not
prepared for any compromise on the issue. The Taliban
have so far remained tightlipped on this exchange,
which delivered a clear message from Washington: Turn
over bin Laden or face the music. 

Who and/or what might have prompted the Taliban
ambassador to make that call from Islamabad? TFT spoke
with Ambassador Zaeef on this issue. Did the Taliban
know about any imminent US strikes to get OBL? Zaeef
did not respond directly but said: “We had been in
touch with the Bush advisor [Khalilzad] on the issue.
And I decided on my own to talk to him. We spoke for
about 15-20 minutes. The advisor explained his
country’s position to me, saying they had proof
against Osama; that they want him extradited without
any ifs and buts, and that the American law requires
an accused to stand trial in the States if there is
evidence against him,” Zaeef told TFT. 

But who took the initiative. Did Zaeef act on his own
or was asked by Kandahar to do so? “It was not an
initiative; just an attempt on my part to do something
about the lingering issue,” Zaeef said. “I told Zalmay
that we would never protect terrorists. I asked him
for evidence and said that we would first try him [bin
Ladin] under the Islamic law and that we were ready to
negotiate the issue based on these conditions. 

But, confirmed Zaeef, Zalmay did not respond
positively and merely said that there was no room for
any negotiations on the issue. 

“I believe this is a clear indication that even if the
WTC tragedy had not happened six days later, the US
would have launched strikes against Afghanistan any
way,” said Zaeef, who does not seem to have lost his
humour even in these testing times. 

Despite the odds being against the Taliban, Zaeef has
been using all possible channels to bring a halt to
what he calls “American terrorism.” He spent almost
six days last week traveling from Quetta to Kandahar
and further down south to gather information on the
damage wrought by US air strikes. 

“I brought back no plan; nor an offer. It was just a
consultative trip to Kandahar,” Zaeef told journalists
after that long trip, though he has had a number of
meetings with Pakistani officials and diplomats during
his 3-day stay in Islamabad. His meetings here also
coincided with the presence of Jalaluddin Haqqani, the
Taliban Minister for Frontier and Tribal affairs.
Haqqani’s visit to Islamabad had fuelled speculation
of what the entire western media and diplomats were
yearning to hear – defections from the Taliban ranks. 

But both Zaeef and Haqqani are now in Kandahar, where
more than 150 civilians have so far died in US air
raids. “I must tell you that these people,
particularly those who swore allegiance to Mullah
Omar, are never going to abandon him at this time. It
is simply against the Afghan mindset,” a former ISI
official told TFT. He said that Omar and his leaders
were shocked when they heard President Musharraf’s
speech to the nation in which he offered support to
the US campaign against terrorism in Afghanistan. 

“All Pakistani diplomats were summoned the next day
and told to leave the country,” the official said.
Nothing could have been more outrageous for the
Afghans than to hear that Pakistan would be sharing
intelligence information with the US. “This meant that
whoever within the Pakistani establishment knew
anything about the Taliban leadership and their
whereabouts 

H-Net* testing

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H-Net* Pakistan intelligence services failing to weaken Taliban

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik hadi hadad


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Pakistan intelligence services failing to weaken
Taliban 

By Ahmed Rashid in Lahore
The Telegraph (UK)
October 26, 2001

THE failure of Pakistan's intelligence services to
weaken the Taliban is causing increasing frustration
among the allies.

It's getting embarrassing. The Taliban are not
defecting nor is there any sign that they are
retreating on the ground in the face of all this
bombing, said a diplomat. Perhaps we put too much
faith in Pakistan's ability.

It appears that America is now taking little notice of
Pakistan, which asked Washington not to bomb Taliban
positions on the outskirts of Kabul to delay an
advance on the capital by the anti-Taliban United
Front forces. 

US aircraft have now bombed these positions for four
consecutive days but have made little impact on
entrenched Taliban troops. Nor do Pakistani-instigated
defections from the Taliban seem to be forthcoming. 

In the past 10 days, two prominent Taliban officials -
Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, the foreign minister, and
Jalaluddin Haqqani, minister for frontier affairs - as
well as several minor officials have held talks with
Pakistan's Interservices Intelligence (ISI) in
Islamabad about creating a splinter group of Taliban
which would denounce their leader, Mullah Mohammed
Omar.

They returned to Afghanistan only to denounce Pakistan
and America. Their defiant comments, broadcast by BBC
Pashto and Persian services, have strengthened Taliban
resolve.

The ISI is pursuing several strategies. First, it is
trying to split the Taliban and create a new
leadership, which would reach an accommodation with
the UF, eliminate terrorism and set up an Afghan
nationalist rather than an Islamic fundamentalist
government. So far it has not achieved a single
defection.

The ISI is also backing a convention of Pathan tribal
chiefs led by Pir Sayed Ahmad Gailani, a moderate and
spiritual leader from the Pathan belt. Their first
meeting in Peshawar on Wednesday drew some 800
Afghans. 

The aim is to create a strong block of anti-Taliban
Pathans, who could determine the fate of the future
government and ensure that the UF, made up of minority
ethnic groups does not come to dominate the next
government - a key Pakistani demand.

At the same time the ISI also appears willing to let
Pathan commanders loyal to the former King Zahir Shah,
who is involved in trying to form a new government,
enter Afghanistan and set up a royalist base in the
south.

Although the ISI and the CIA are co-operating on
intelligence gathering to try to eliminate Osama bin
Laden and the Taliban leaders, the West still
mistrusts the ISI because of its support for the
Taliban over the past seven years. Many ISI operatives
are ideologically committed to the Taliban and are
deeply anti-American. 




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H-Net* Afganistant movie

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Re: H-Net* Cuti-cuti Malaysia

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik jamal nasir


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saya pun baru nie hampir menjadi mangsa.mana mika dapat h/set no pun tak 
tahu.pada awalnya mereka menyatakan bahawa saya adalah dianatar yang bertuah 
kerana mendapat baucer 3 hari/3 malam menginap di resort meraka free dengan 
syarat saya harus hadir sessi seminar yang diaturkan.apa yng saya syak kalau 
saya pergi tentu saya kena jadi ahli ker atau yang pasti kena kelauar 
duitlah tu yang mungkin lebih banyak.jadi saper yang ade pengalaman dengan 
tanco resort nie mohon beritahu supaya kalau baik tu tak aper ler.cuma yag 
risaunya kalau dah ada umpannya tu mestilah ada hbuannya nanti. 

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 Tancoresorts ?? Indah nama dari keadaan yg sebenar. Saya hampir-hampir
 terkena. Nasib baik... Untuk yg nak bercuti direct pergi je tempat mana
 yang kita nak pergi, kalau tak ada @ pun dah penuh...carilah alternatif
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 TANCO 
 
 
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 Assalamualaikum, 
 
 Kepada netters yang berhasrat untuk bercuti pada hujung tahun ini bolehlah 
 
 berhubung dengan saya kerana InsyaAllah saya dapat memberi harga yang 
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 Terima kasih. 
 
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Re: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik StoneCold


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Aku setuju sangat dengan Joeblack.

Mamat-mamat PAs yg mengaku mengeakkan agama ni kekadang aku tgk lagi terok
dari org UMNO!!!

Cuba hang pa pikiaq! Nak tegakkan Islam, tapi nak pi semayang kat masjid pun
susah. Anak bini tak tutup aurat pun tak leh nak tegoq!! Ingat! Anak Isteri
itu tanggungjawab kita!!

Kata pejuangkan Islam tapi ciri-ciri dan amalan tak dak langsung serupa
Islam!!! Ni lagi bahaya!! Ingat!! Kita akan dibangkitkan bersama kaum yg
kita amalkan seharian.

Kalau rupa wajah dah mcm Yahudi, mcm mana nak bangkit bersama para sahabat?

Cuba hang pa semua check:-

tak dak misai tak dak janggut = majusi  nasrani

ada misai tak dak janggut = majusi

ada misai ada janggut tapi janggut trim pendek = yahudi  nasrani

Sunnah Nabi = misai gunting hari isnin @ khamis @ jumaat dan janggut panjang
segenggan tangan kita!!

Jangan kata org PAS saja, org UMNO pun bersepah yg rupa mcm yahudi, nasrani
 majusi.

Kita dok kutuk org yahudi dok serang palestin tapi kita kat Malaysia ni
amalan org yahudi kita buat.

apa daa...



p/s: lepas ni jgn dok kutuk nama email aku plak dah. aku tahu la nama yahudi
tapi kalau dah org teknikal kasi, aku guna jer la

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 Mungkin sahabat kita nie taksub sangat dengan partinya. Sampai langsung tak
 nak terima teguran dari orang lain. Kalau ye pun bawak-bawaklah berfikir
 sikit. Yang mana baik tu terima ajelah jangan asyik nak membangkang aje.
 Nanti lama-lama jadi kepala batu kan..kan. kan..
 
 Maaf kalau terkasar bahasa.
 
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 Assalamualaikum wbt ...
 
 Apa ler hang nih sensitif sangat ... org tu tegur cara
 baik ...hang tak boleh nak ambik cara positif sikit
 ker ...
 
 maaf kalau terkasar ..
 
 wassalam
 --- Selamatlah MALAYSIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ASSALAMUALAIKUM..
 Teruknya pejabat PAS,Alhamdulillah
 Berjaga-jaga dalam percakapan,
 Dahulu rasulullah pun rumahnyapun beratapkan pohon
 tamar kalau dikut amat
 berbeza dari zaman sekarang.Jika nak diikutkan
 rasulullah punya kedudukan
 boleh dibina rumah mahligai mengapa tidak.kerana
 banyak unsur unsur riba
 unsur unsur memuja yang silap puja menyengutukan
 Allah.
 Mengapa tidak dihina Rasullulah Nauzubillah.Selamat
 lah kami ya Allah,
 
 Kita dijadikan dari tanah apakah tanah itu kotor
 lainlah kalau kelantan itu
 penuh dengan najis yang nampak dan tidak
 nampak.Mengapa dihina.Hidup kita
 pun habis kuat 60-70 tahun.Lepas tu Padam duduk
 dalam tanah kalau selamat
 dalam kubur Alhamdulillah.Kalau tidak sapalah nak
 bersih kan dalam kubur
 yang penuh dengan azab jika kita asyik menghina
 orang .KOTOR DIPANDANGAN
 MATA KITA TAK SEMESTINYA KOTOR PADA ALLAH.
 Melainkan yang ditegah sahaja.Islam nak kan
 kebersihan yang ditekan kan
 ialah bersih dari najis.
 Contohnya:
 Zahir:  Perempuan itu nampak cantik bergincu berbaju
 separuh bogel.
 
 Batin:  Perempuan itu perosak manusia dan pengotor
 jiwa
 wassalam
 
 ADIK OSAMA MALAYSIA
 
 
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 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:11:42 +
 
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RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik sam dol


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Assalamualaikum,

Berapa lamo dah mu pakai internet mekdah? Mu gi
search gappo dio sampai tak jumpa cari tu. Kalau
mu tak jumpa cari alamat adun2 negeri umno tu
memang betul lah. Memang dia orang tak ada guts nak
letak email address kat internet sebab risau takut 
tak terlayan.

Mu kan orang ceridik - pandai2lah cari sendiri.
Kalu oghe bodo tu excuselah.

Untuk yang ni, nanti aku tolong forward kat dia 
orang.

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From: zaidah mohd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:07:02 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

kita dok cari cari dalam internet alamat email orang
orang kuat pas tapi tak jumpa , heran juga pemimpin
pas tiada alamat email. 

Yang aku dok herannya rantaian alamat email tok
wakil pas kita orang tak jumpa kalau sesiapa ada
tolong sent dekat saya.BR/P/DIV

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H-Net* Radio kereta untuk dijual

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik azrin abdul manan


Assalamualaikum wbt,

Radio cassette boleh sambung dgn cd changer. Jenama Clarion. ianya original perdana punya. Unit ni ada sedikit kerosakan di bahagian butangnya. Kalau u all boleh repair ianya menguntungkan sebab harga saya nak jual murah RM150 sahaja. Cassette elok tak adarosak. Call saya 019-2110124

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Re: H-Net* Perbincangan yang tak ada faedah

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Bintang Gemilang


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At 04:48  26/10/01 +0800, apa nama wrote:

Tapikan, tengok dia orang berbincang/berbahas ni
ada manafaat jugak.


Pada aku benda ni tak bermanafaat sebab dah tiga tahun lebih aku sertai hizbi ni, isu 
ni tak ada hujungnya.

Dalam hizbi ni ada yang kata wahabi termasuk dalam 72 golongan yang sesat. Dia tuduh 
tapi tak ada bukti sebab dan alasan yang kukuh.

Sementara itu pejuang berfahaman wahabi juga yang berjuang gagah berani di cechnya, 
ambon, afganistan, moro.

Bush pun ketawa besar.





 
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H-Net* Fwd: Communiqué_from_Hizb_ut-Tahrir_-_America_and_Britain_d eclare_war_against_Islam_and_the_Muslims

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Abu Hadi


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 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:54:17 +0100
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 Communiqué from Hizb ut-Tahrir - America and Britain
 declare war against
 Islam and the Muslims
 
 “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by
 your hands and
 disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the
 breasts of a
 believing people” [TMQ At-Taubah: 14]. 
 
 On Sunday 7/10/2001, America, the head of Kufr and her
 ally Britain
 declared a brutal war against the Muslims. They began to
 bomb Afghan
 cities - Kabul, Kandahar, Jalalabad, and other cities -
 with deadly
 Tomahawk missiles and with bombers, which carry tens of
 tonnes of
 destructive bombs. These were launched from battleships,
 aircraft
 carriers and submarines that she has amassed in the
 Indian Ocean over
 the last three weeks. They were also launched from
 airports and military
 bases of some neighbouring states with the collusion and
 treachery of
 the criminal rulers in the Muslim lands. 
 
 The two enemies of Islam and the Muslims, America and
 Britain, waged an
 unjust war against the poor and defenceless Afghan people
 who had been
 afflicted by destructive wars for more than a quarter of
 a century. They
 declared the war against it even though their government
 had not
 declared a war against them and nor did it commit
 aggression against
 them. 
 
 It is one of the strange and astonishing discrepancies,
 and more so an
 insult to people’s intelligence when they say that they
 are not fighting
 Islam or the Muslims, at a time when they are unleashing
 all their
 lethal weapons against the defenceless Muslims in
 Afghanistan visible to
 the whole world to see and when they fight Islam in the
 name of
 terrorism. 
 
 The war criminal Bush is waging an unjust war on the
 Muslims to regain
 the tattered prestige of America and to eliminate the
 effects of the
 blow, which had shaken her on the eleventh of September,
 carried away by
 the desire of the American people for revenge. Polls have
 stated that
 more than eighty per cent of the American people wish to
 see military
 action as a response to what happened on that date. In
 addition to this,
 one of the aims of this oppressive war is to uproot the
 aspiration of
 the Muslims for the re-establishment of the rule by
 Islam, and to remove
 the Taliban government after it freed itself from the
 American
 subjugation and from the Western subjugation in general.
 This represents
 a dangerous precedent, in the view of the Americans, to
 her influence
 and to the influence of the West in that region and what
 may result in
 terms of the liberation of the other Islamic peoples like
 Pakistan,
 Uzbekistan, Iran and others. 
 
 As for what the war criminal Blair is undertaking by
 squeezing himself
 into the hostility against Islam and the Muslims - he has
 truly drawn
 people’s attention by surpassing his partner in crime
 Bush in inflaming
 the war. Blair’s undertaking of this action is indeed a
 clear aggression
 against Islam and the Muslims. By doing that he is
 showing enmity to the
 Islamic Ummah without any regard for this Ummah, all of
 which is seen
 and heard by her traitorous agent rulers, as if it is not
 their duty to
 protect her sanctities and territories! 
 
 Indeed the reality of the war waged by America, the head
 of Kufr, and
 Britain and their allies from the Kafir states on
 Afghanistan is a
 crusade. They are waging it under the banner of what they
 call fighting
 terrorism, through deliberate lies and deception, to
 strike Islam and
 the Muslims, and to protect their treacherous agents –
 the rulers of the
 Muslims who are colluding with them in this war - those
 rulers who have
 opened up the airports and territories of the Muslims to
 their military
 operations throughout the length and breadth of the
 Islamic world. 
 
 This is not the first time in which America and Britain
 have waged a war
 against the Muslims. They waged a war, with other
 nations, against Iraq
 in 1990 to facilitate the continuous plundering of the
 oil resources of
 the Gulf under the pretext of protecting Kuwait and its
 people. Even
 until now they are still, almost daily, launching attacks
 on the north
 of Iraq and the south of Iraq. They established the
 Jewish entity in
 Palestine in 1948 and they still support it with money,
 weapons and
 influence, eager to fight Islam and humiliate 

Re: H-Net* Ikim dot fm

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Bintang Gemilang


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At 04:43  26/10/01 +0800, nor ain wrote:

itu lah dia radio yang nak merosak kan iman manusia.memang bagus ada 
hadis dan tazkirahtapi dlm pada masa yang sama lagu2 dangdut...lagu2 
cinta yang melalaikan tu yang penyanyinya org pompuan tak tutup aurat 
tutetap juga di dendangkan.nanti org kata tak kisah...rock2 
juga...dangdut2 jugatapi tazkirah pun dengar jugakan ke rosak hati 
manusia yang faham macam tu.



Inilah yang dinamakan islam yang sederhana.

Tugas IKIM - insititut kepahamam islam malaysia - ialah memberi kepahaman tentang 
islam yang sederhana kepada semua rakyat malaysia.

kalau umat islam nak maju, kita mesti ikut perkembangan zaman.

Dengar lagu atau nak bergelek atau bergolek terus pun tak salah. Kita manusia perlu 
juga hiburan.

Tengok macam taliban sana tu. 
tv haram. 
radio haram. 
gambar haram. 
itu haram. 
ini haram. 
macamana nak maju ?

Buatlah macam malaysia yang mengamalkan cara islam yang sederhana. 

kita ada bank islam, pertandingan juara membaca al-quran, universiti islam, tanah 
perkuburan islam dan banyak lagi yang islam.


Sekarang kita telah di iktiraf sebagai negara islam contoh paling maju dalam dunia 
islam.


Sebut pasal ikimdotfm ni, apasal tak leh access http://ikim.fm ? 



 
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RE: Re: H-Net* Cuti-cuti Malaysia

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Ainul Fakariah Abdul Latif


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Tancoresorts!ceritanya begini, saya terima call dekat Off yg
mengatakan saya adalah antara yang bertuah kerana terpilih menerima baucer
percutian 3H 2M di salah satu dr 4 buah tempat percutian. Antaranya di
Phg, P/Dickson, 2 di Trgg. Tapi saya lupa pulak lokasinya. mana dia org
ambil phone #, saya pun tak tahu. Baucer akan diberi dgn syarat saya pergi
ke off mrk dan mendengar taklimat mrk selama 1 jam. Tarikh ditetapkan, dan
saya pun pergilah. Rupa-rupanya dia orang nak promosikan chalet dan saya
diberi taklimat bagaimana utk melabur dalam syarikat mrk. Imbuhan yg dpt
hanyalah apabila kita hendak pergi bercuti, tempat disediakan tanpa ada
lagi bayaran . Kos yang saya kena bayar saya dah ingat-ingat lupa, tapi
dalam +_ dlm RM20k. Dan saya diberi pilihan bayaran saya samaada 2/3 @ 5
tahun. Yang paling lama adalah 5 thn. Dan yg sedihnya, kalau dalam tahun
tu cthnya tahun 2001 saya tidak pergi melancong, duit saya utk thn tu,
burn Dari 1 jam jadi 2 jam . Bayangkan saya pergi dalam pukul 2:30pm ,
hampir jam 6:pm baru saya dibenarkan pulang. Cerita punya cerita, saya
beri berbagai alasan utk menolak saham mrk itu. Berkenaan vaucer percutian
pulak, saya tunggu utk dapat tu hampir 2 jam. Dia org cakap saya mesti
ambil. Dlm pada menuggu tu, sempat lagi Bossnya kempen utk masuk melabur.
Saya dapat vaucer saya tetapi tidak seperti yg dijanjikan. Mula-mula kata
dr 4 buah tempat percutian dan open date, tapi saya hanya diberi pilihan 2
sahaja iaitu PD dan Phg, dan lagi satu datenya dia orang yg fix . Kita tak
boleh pilih. Bygkan saya pergi hari Sabtu - 29/09 dan date percutian yg
diberi ialah 2-Oktober. Mana la ada masa utk rancang semua tu sdgkan saya
sendiri tak bercuti sudah hampir 2 thn akibat kesuntukan masa. Saya nak
tukar date, tak dapat dan lagi satu advisor dia cakap kalau saya masuk
saham dia, automatically date boleh dirundingkan...ada ke macam tu.so,
untill now saya dah set dlm kepala saya yg jauhkan dr package Percutian
sebeginiso vaucer tu I just throw it infront of it`s
advisor.any TancoResorts person yg ada dlm mailing list ni, sorry to
story this. But, it fact...

thanks


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Subject:Re: H-Net* Cuti-cuti Malaysia

saya pun baru nie hampir menjadi mangsa.mana mika dapat h/set no pun tak 
tahu.pada awalnya mereka menyatakan bahawa saya adalah dianatar yang
bertuah 
kerana mendapat baucer 3 hari/3 malam menginap di resort meraka free
dengan 
syarat saya harus hadir sessi seminar yang diaturkan.apa yng saya syak
kalau 
saya pergi tentu saya kena jadi ahli ker atau yang pasti kena kelauar 
duitlah tu yang mungkin lebih banyak.jadi saper yang ade pengalaman dengan

tanco resort nie mohon beritahu supaya kalau baik tu tak aper ler.cuma yag

risaunya kalau dah ada umpannya tu mestilah ada hbuannya nanti. 

Ainul Fakariah Abdul Latif writes: 



 
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H-Net* free handset

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik zinOthman



assalammualaikum,sapa nak handset free, klik la kat bawah ni, mana tau 
kot-kot ada rezeki.  http://my1.catcha.com/cgi-bin/MYcontest/UDS/survey.cgi?user=mzo2000 
 pemenang dikira melalui siapa yang dapat referral 
teramai.


RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik zaidah mohd

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jangan dok buat lawak bodoh , mengata orang tak menentu kalau tak tahu cakap tak tahu , jangan buat buat tahu. Itu bodoh sombong namanya.
memang kita orang tidak jumpa jadi kita orang mengaku saje lah.

From: "sam dol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "zaidah mohd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS 
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:10:34 +0800 
 
Assalamualaikum, 
 
Berapa lamo dah mu pakai internet mekdah? Mu gi 
search gappo dio sampai tak jumpa cari tu. Kalau 
mu tak jumpa cari alamat adun2 negeri umno tu 
memang betul lah. Memang dia orang tak ada guts nak 
letak email address kat internet sebab risau takut 
tak terlayan. 
 
Mu kan orang ceridik - pandai2lah cari sendiri. 
Kalu oghe bodo tu excuselah. 
 
Untuk yang ni, nanti aku tolong forward kat dia 
orang. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: "zaidah mohd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:07:02 + 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS 
 
 kita dok cari cari dalam internet alamat email orang 
 orang kuat pas tapi tak jumpa , heran juga pemimpin 
 pastiada alamat email. 
 
 Yang aku dok herannya rantaian alamat email tok 
 wakil pas kita orang tak jumpa kalau sesiapa ada 
 tolong sent dekat saya.


 
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RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik sam dol


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Susah sangat ke nak search kelantan?  Atau mu
nak aku cut and paste kat mu? Acu ghoyak mari.

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 htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV
 Pjangan dok buat lawak bodoh , mengata orang tak menentu kalau tak tahu cakap tak 
tahu , jangan buat buat tahu. Itu bodoh sombong namanya./P
 Pmemang kita orang tidak jumpa jadi kita orang mengaku saje lah.BRBR/P/DIV
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 DIV/DIV 
 DIV/DIVAssalamualaikum, 
 DIV/DIV 
 DIV/DIVBerapa lamo dah mu pakai internet mekdah? Mu gi 
 DIV/DIVsearch gappo dio sampai tak jumpa cari tu. Kalau 
 DIV/DIVmu tak jumpa cari alamat adun2 negeri umno tu 
 DIV/DIVmemang betul lah. Memang dia orang tak ada guts nak 
 DIV/DIVletak email address kat internet sebab risau takut 
 DIV/DIVtak terlayan. 
 DIV/DIV 
 DIV/DIVMu kan orang ceridik - pandai2lah cari sendiri. 
 DIV/DIVKalu oghe bodo tu excuselah. 
 DIV/DIV 
 DIV/DIVUntuk yang ni, nanti aku tolong forward kat dia 
 DIV/DIVorang. 
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 DIV/DIV 
 DIV/DIV kita dok cari cari dalam internet alamat email orang 
 DIV/DIV orang kuat pas tapi tak jumpa , heran juga pemimpin 
 DIV/DIV pas tiada alamat email. 
 DIV/DIV 
 DIV/DIV Yang aku dok herannya rantaian alamat email tok 
 DIV/DIV wakil pas kita orang tak jumpa kalau sesiapa ada 
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H-Net* tak perasan

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik ikan masin


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A'kum...
kembali kita kepada kisah tak perasankali ini mari
kita renungkan mengenai harga petrol yg sudah naik 10
sen...memang pengguna jalanraya dah melenting pasal
tahun lepas pun dah naik seposen...tak tau berapa
bakul 
mahahaprak tu kena maki hamun...tapi perasankah kita
bahawa harga petrol baru dalam 1.30 per liter...tu pun
dah melenting...cuba bandingkan dengan air
mineral...setengah liter pun dah 1.20... tu pun kita
duk beli selalu...tak perasankah kita hal ni...
padahal 
kita ada alternative lain dengan bawak air masak dari
rumah...lagi save kan...kita pun tak tau betul ke air
botol tu memang air mineral atau cuma air masak
jer...petrol tu takpe la...kita kurang ada
alternative...cuma boleh tukar dengan menggunakan
perkhidmatan awam je...banyak benda lagi kita boleh
save...contohnye kenderaan mesti diservis
selalu...memang kita nampak banyak modal kena
keluar...tetapi cubalah fikir, kenderaan yg tak
maintain akan menyebabkan lagi banyak kerosakan kepada
part...costnyer lagi la mahal beb...berlipat kali
ganda...tayar kereta kita mesti cukup angin...kalau
tak cepatla tayar haus... memang nampak remeh...tapi
effect dia memang besar kepada perbelanjaan kita
cuba kita renungkan...

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Re: H-Net* UPACARA PERINGATAN MALAM NISFU SYA'BAN - Syaikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah bin Baz

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Khairi


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 Assalammu alaikum. Bagi warga Hizbu yang
 bertanya-tanya tentang Apakah dia ajaran Wahabi,
 bolehlah tengok artikel di bawah. Lihat bagaimana
 ia cuba mengatakan bahawa menyambut malam Nisfu
 Syaaban itu haram, tetapi tidak memberi apa-apa
 dalil selain dari mengatakan ianya bid'ah.

 Maksud bid'ah sebenar ialah meletakkan suatu
 hukum yang tidak berasaskan al Quran dan Sunnah.
 Contohnya, mengatakan sesuatu yang halal itu
 haram, atau yang sunnah itu wajib, atau yang
 wajib itu harus.


Dalam Quran ada perkataan bid'a - dengan maksud sesuatu yang baru.

ma kunta bi'a tum minarrasul...

bahaw aEngkau Muhammad bukan seorang [rasul] yang BARU tetapi Muhammad
SAW adalah penyambung risalah [lama] - iaitu tauhid,

Dalam ayat ini perkataan bid'a digunakan, dengan maksud BARU!


dan Rasul guna perkataan yang sama merujuk ibadah rekaan tambahan -
supaya JANGAN KITA TOKOK tambah perkara dalam ibadah khusus -




 







  Para fuqaha' banyak tertipu dengan
  hadits-hadits di atas, seperti
  pengarang Ihya' Ulumuddin dan lainnya juga
  sebagian dari mufassirin.
  Telah diriwayatkan bahwa, shalat pada malam
  ini, yakni malam Nisfu
  Sya'ban yang telah tersebar ke seluruh pelosok
  dunia itu, semuanya
  adalah bathil/tidak benar dan haditsnya adalah
  maudhu'.
 
  Anggapan itu tidak bertentangan dengan riwayat
  Tirmidzi dari hadits
  Aisyah bahwa Rasulullah shalallahu 'alaihi
  wasallam pergi ke Baqi' dan
  Tuhan turun ke langit dunia pada malam Nisfu
  Sya'ban untuk mengampuni
  dosa sebanyak jumlah bulu domba dan bulu
  kambing. Sesungguhnya
  perkataan tersebut berkisar tentang shalat pada
  malam itu, tetapi
  hadits Aisyah ini lemah dan sanadnya munqathi'
  (terputus) sebagaimana
  hadits Ali yang telah disebutkan di atas
  mengenai malam Nisfu Sya'ban,
  jadi dengan jelas bahwa shalat malam itu juga
  lemah dasarnya.
 
  Al-Hafizh Al-Iraqi berkata: Hadits (yang
  menerangkan) tentang shalat
  Nisfu Sya'ban maudhu' dan pembohongan atas diri
  Rasulullah shalallahu
  'alaihi wasallam. Dalam kitab Al Majmu', Imam
  Nawawi berkata: Shalat
  yang sering kita kenal dengan shalat Raghaib
  ada (berjumlah) dua belas
  raka'at dikerjakan antara Maghrib dan Isya'
  pada malam Jum'at pertama
  bulan Rajab; dan shalat seratus rakaat pada
  malam Nisfu Sya'ban. Dua
  shalat itu adalah bid'ah dan mungkar. Tak boleh
  seseorang terpedaya
  oleh kedua hadits itu hanya karena telah
  disebutkan di dalam buku
  Quutul Quluub dan Ihya' Ulumuddin. Sebab pada
  dasarnya hadits-hadits
  tersebut batil (tidak boleh diamalkan).  Kita
  tidak boleh cepat
  mempercayai orang-orang yang menyamarkan hukum
  bagi kedua hadits,
  yaitu dari kalangan Aimmah yang kemudian
  mengarang lembaran-lembaran
  untuk membolehkan pengamalan kedua hadits,
  dengan demikian berarti
  salah kaprah.
 
  Syaikh Imam Abu Muhammad Abdurrahman Ibnu
  Ismail al Muqadaasiy telah
  mengarang sebuah buku yang berharga; Beliau
  menolak (menganggap batil)
  kedua hadits (tentang malam Nisfu Sya'ban dan
  malam Jum'at pertama
  pada bulan Rajab), ia bersikap (dalam
  mengungkapkan pendapatnya) dalam
  buku tersebut, sebaik mungkin. Dalam hal ini
  telah banyak pengapat
  para ahli ilmu; maka jika kita hendak
  memindahkan pendapat mereka itu,
  akan memperpanjang pembicaraan kita. Semoga
  apa-apa yang telah kita
  sebutkan tadi, cukup memuaskan bagi siapa saja
  yang berkeinginan untuk
  mendapat sesuatu yang haq.
 
  Dari penjelasan di atas tadi, seperti ayat-ayat
  Al-Qur'an dan beberapa
  hadits serta pendapat para ulama, jelaslah bagi
  pencari kebenaran
  (haq) bahwa peringatan malam Nisfu Sya'ban
  dengan pengkhususan shalat
  atau lainnya, dan pengkhususan siang harinya
  dengan puasa; itu semua
  adalah bid'ah dan mungkar tidak ada dasar
  sandarannya dalam syariat
  ini (Islam), bahkan hanya merupakan
  pengada-adaan saja dalam Islam
  setelah masa hidupnya para shahabat radhiallahu
  'anhu. Marilah kita
  hayati ayat Al-Qur'an di bawah:
 
  Pada hari ini telah Kusempurnakan untuk kamu
  agamamu, dan telah
  Kucukupkan kepadamu nikmat-Ku dan telah
  Kuridhoi Islam sebagai agama
  

H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS .Teruknya Akhlak Masyarakat dibawah UMNO.

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik Selamatlah MALAYSIA

Kalau pergi ke Kelantan orang selalu mengatakan keburukannya sebab Kelantan 
diperintah oleh orang mengaji pondok,Bandar tak bersih,Tapi kalau ikut 
majoriti peniaga kat kelantan nilah yang paling banyak oran melayu meniaga. 
Mek dah ni orang apa ya???Saya tak lah melenting tapi kalau diikutkan 
Malaysia Negara Islam
Setiap malam kalau dah terpaksa balik ikut Bandar Kuala Lumpur tu terutama 
nya Area Bukit Bintang Belakang Lot10 Langsung tak nampak budaya Islam 
disitu SAYA CABAR MEK DAH pergilah tengok waktu malam.Saya ingat dia mesti 
tak berani apa yang kerajaan BN buat.MAKSIAT?
Tandas kotor boleh dibersihkan kalau kita nampak kotor kita tolong lah jadi 
masyarakat prihatin Bersihkan lah.
Tapi kalau masyarakat yang kotor bersih berpakaian tapi separuh bertelanjang 
macamana nak dibersihkan?
Saya tak melenting tapi malu nak bawa anak kalau terpaksa keluar diwaktu 
malam,Inilah NEGARA ISLAM Pergilah tengok sendiri dengan Haloween night 
Pubnya tah apa-apalah lagi NEGARA ISLAM MALAYSIA.
Kalau yang tak dak iman jangan dok pi.


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jangan dok buat lawak bodoh , mengata orang tak menentu kalau tak tahu cakap tak tahu , jangan buat buat tahu. Itu bodoh sombong namanya.
memang kita orang tidak jumpa jadi kita orang mengaku saje lah.

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Subject: RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:10:34 +0800

Assalamualaikum,

Berapa lamo dah mu pakai internet mekdah? Mu gi
search gappo dio sampai tak jumpa cari tu. Kalau
mu tak jumpa cari alamat adun2 negeri umno tu
memang betul lah. Memang dia orang tak ada guts nak
letak email address kat internet sebab risau takut
tak terlayan.

Mu kan orang ceridik - pandai2lah cari sendiri.
Kalu oghe bodo tu excuselah.

Untuk yang ni, nanti aku tolong forward kat dia
orang.

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From: "zaidah mohd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:07:02 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: H-Net* teruknya pejabat PAS

 kita dok cari cari dalam internet alamat email orang
 orang kuat pas tapi tak jumpa , heran juga pemimpin
 pastiada alamat email.

 Yang aku dok herannya rantaian alamat email tok
 wakil pas kita orang tak jumpa kalau sesiapa ada
 tolong sent dekat saya.



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Assalamualaikum,

Nampaknya ramai yg dapat bad experience dgn Tanco. Anyway, e-mail saya tu 
bukan nak ajak netters jadi member Tanco. Saya cuma ingin sewakan (bukan 
jual) points saya kpd netters. Saya gunakan points saya utk reserve hotel 
dgn Tanco atas nama netters dan netters bayar duit kpd saya. Semasa netters 
bayar kpd saya, saya akan serahkan surat kpd netters yg membolehkan netters 
check-in ke hotel tersebut tanpa perlu membuat pembayaran kpd pihak hotel 
tersebut. Diskaun sehingga 20% dari normal rate ditawarkan. Wassalam.

At 08:07 PM 10/26/01 +, jamal nasir wrote:
saya pun baru nie hampir menjadi mangsa.mana mika dapat h/set no pun tak 
tahu.pada awalnya mereka menyatakan bahawa saya adalah dianatar yang 
bertuah kerana mendapat baucer 3 hari/3 malam menginap di resort meraka 
free dengan syarat saya harus hadir sessi seminar yang diaturkan.apa yng 
saya syak kalau saya pergi tentu saya kena jadi ahli ker atau yang pasti 
kena kelauar duitlah tu yang mungkin lebih banyak.jadi saper yang ade 
pengalaman dengan tanco resort nie mohon beritahu supaya kalau baik tu tak 
aper ler.cuma yag risaunya kalau dah ada umpannya tu mestilah ada hbuannya 
nanti.
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Tancoresorts ?? Indah nama dari keadaan yg sebenar. Saya hampir-hampir
terkena. Nasib baik... Untuk yg nak bercuti direct pergi je tempat mana
yang kita nak pergi, kalau tak ada @ pun dah penuh...carilah alternatif
lain, @pun cari jer package percutian tang lain. Yang penting AVOID
TANCO
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Assalamualaikum,
Kepada netters yang berhasrat untuk bercuti pada hujung tahun ini bolehlah
berhubung dengan saya kerana InsyaAllah saya dapat memberi harga yang 
menarik. Untuk mengetahui destinasi yang netters boleh kunjungi, sila
pergi ke www.tancoresorts.com -- Resorts Information. Tanco menggunakan 
sistem points di dalam memberi kemudahan kepada ahlinya. Memandangkan 
points saya
tidak begitu banyak, netters yg berhasrat diharapkan dapat berhubung
dengan saya seberapa segera yang boleh.
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H-Net* Menteri kata POLIS BPR lembab....

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Siasatan kes PPRT disoal -- Menteri masih tunggu keputusan selepas setahun laporan 
dibuat

Oleh: RAMLI ABDUL KARIM dan ZULKIFLI JALIL
KUALA LUMPUR 26 Okt. - Menteri Pembangunan Luar Bandar, Datuk Azmi Khalid 
mempersoalkan mengapa polis dan Badan Pencegah Rasuah (BPR) lewat menyelesaikan 
siasatan kes penipuan pelaburan bernilai RM47 juta dalam projek Program Pembangunan 
Rakyat Termiskin (PPRT).

Laporan mengenai penyelewengan itu dibuat oleh kementerian tersebut setahun lalu.

Menurutnya, sehingga kini belum ada sebarang tindakan diambil oleh kedua-dua agensi 
itu walaupun unsur penyelewengan dan penipuan disyaki berlaku oleh Jabatan Audit 
Negara.

Siasatan oleh Jabatan Audit Negara ke atas projek-projek PPRT itu dibuat atas 
permintaan kementeriannya sendiri.

Beliau menambah, laporan polis dan BPR mengenai perkara itu yang dibuat atas arahan 
beliau sendiri turut disertakan dengan hasil siasatan daripada sebuah firma akauntan 
terkemuka.

Katanya, kelewatan menyelesaikan siasatan kes penipuan projek-projek yang dimajukan 
pada tahun 1998 itu, menyebabkan pihaknya berada dalam dilema sama ada mahu meneruskan 
atau menghentikan projek-projek tersebut.

``Saya sendiri membawanya ke Kabinet kenapa (siasatan) terlewat. Dalam dua mesyuarat 
Kabinet yang lalu, saya katakan ada kes-kes yang perlu diselesaikan segera tetapi 
belum ada apa-apa tindakan. 

``Maklum balas pun setelah saya minta, ada sedikit maklum balas tetapi tidak ada 
hujung pangkal,'' katanya kepada Utusan di sini.

Tegas Azmi: ``Tidak ada pegawai polis datang bertanya kepada saya dan saya tidak tahu 
sama ada polis turun ke bawah menyiasat... saya tidak tahu.

``Saya telah menghantar semua laporan juruaudit negara kepada BPR tetapi tiada siapa 
menghubungi saya.''

Beliau mengulas laporan polis yang dibuat oleh pihaknya berhubung penipuan pelaburan 
PPRT memandangkan kesannya kepada Kementerian Pembangunan Luar Bandar adalah negatif.

Isu penyelewengan projek PPRT itu mendapat perhatian umum ekoran pendedahan laporan 
Jabatan Audit Negara di Parlimen baru-baru ini.

Perkembangan mengenainya telah dimaklumkan kepada Timbalan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri 
Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Mengulas lanjut Azmi berkata, dua daripada projek yang gagal di Kelantan dan 
Terengganu itu dikendalikan oleh syarikat yang sama.

Beliau mengesahkan syarikat terbabit memperoleh projek tersebut tanpa melalui sistem 
tender, yang menjadi prosedur biasa kerajaan.

``Syarikat itu datang mengemukakan projek dengan ideanya. Bukan sahaja orang yang sama 
buat projek sama... syarikatnya juga sama.''

Menurut Azmi lagi, jika diteliti saiz syarikat itu, ia bukanlah syarikat besar tetapi 
disebabkan salah sistem pemantauan, projek berkenaan mengalami kegagalan.

``Orang dan kakitangan kementerian juga ada dalam lembaga pengarah syarikat itu.''

Menurut Azmi, sebelum ini, beliau ada menerima maklumat daripada BPR di peringkat 
kawasan kononnya telah memberi maklumat kepada ibu pejabat agensi itu bahawa tiada kes 
untuk disiasat.

``Saya kata tidak boleh. Jangan biarkan kes ini disiasat di peringkat kawasan, ia kena 
disiasat oleh peringkat atasan atau ibu pejabat.

``Sehingga hari ini, tiada maklumat terbaru, mungkin mereka (polis dan BPR) banyak 
kerja atau memang kes ini memakan masa untuk disiasat.''

Azmi menambah, ketika baru memegang jawatan Menteri Pembangunan Luar Bandar selepas 
pilihan raya umum 1999, beliau memang menyedari ada perkara yang tidak betul telah 
berlaku.

``Selepas itu, saya mengambil tindakan-tindakan yang perlu. Jadi, ia (laporan audit 
yang didedahkan di Parlimen) mengesahkan apa yang saya syaki selama ini,'' katanya.

Menurut Azmi, pihaknya sedang dalam proses menyiasat secara menyeluruh nilai sebenar 
yang terlibat dalam penyelewengan PPRT tetapi yang telah dipastikan membabitkan empat 
projek bernilai RM47 juta.

Ditanya jumlah peserta PPRT yang gagal memperoleh manfaatnya, beliau berkata, ia 
melibatkan 1,175 keluarga.

Ditanya mengapa kementerian pada waktu itu (1998) begitu mudah meluluskan satu projek 
bernilai RM29 juta kepada pihak swasta, Azmi berkata, ketika itu, beliau percaya 
kementerian yakin ia berdaya maju dan sebab itu, modal disalurkan.

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H-Net* Re: teruknya pejabat PAS .Teruknya Akhlak Masyarakat dibawah UMNO.

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik sam dol


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Assalamualaikum,

Macam ni aje kita settle benda ni

Mekdah tu niat dia baik. Cumanya dia tak beRjumpa
cara macam mana nak sampaikan hajat dia.  Nampak
dia tu bengkeng sikit, tapi rasanya mekdah ni
manis senyumnya.

Alhamdulillah, zaman la ni hajat mudah disampaikan.
Kalau kita perhati betul2, hanya kerajaan kelantan
dan terengganu yang ada website cukup complete
siap dengan cara nak sampaikan komplen, siap dengan
email address adun2 dia orang.  Kerajaan negeri
umno tak berapa complete, slow nak di access, dan
alamat email adun dia toksah cakaplah.  Dari sini
kita dapat lihat, siapa yang benar2 nak berbakti
pada rakyat. Contoh, kat Taman Melati, KL tu ada
satu masjid yang dah agak uzur. Bila ramadhan dan
hari jumaat, orang solat sampai atas jalanraya.
Adun dan MP umno dah berapa kali tukar. Yang nampak
hanya papan tanda berbunyi Tapak untuk masjid baru.
Tengoklah dekat pilihanraya nanti, saya berani
jamin, dia orang akan bagitau yang permohonan masih
dalam pemerosesan - untuk sementara waktu, nah 
sedikit sumbangan untuk majlis berbuka puasa
Kenapa tak keluar TV?  Yang keluar pasal jalan
kampung roboh di Sik aje.

Oleh itu, kalau anda nak sampaikan sesuatu, anda
boleh cari homepages dia orang tu - searchlah pakai
netscape ke, yahoo ke, atau google ke, sebab kekadang
tak keluar kat yg ni, dia keluar kat yang tu. Lepas
tu kita tengok, apa dia orang buat. Kita gunalah
power yang ada ditangan kita ni. 

Saya yakin, bila dia orang berani letakkan address
dia orang tu, sudah pasti dia orang ikhlas nak
berbakti dalam kemampuan mereka - tapi susun ayat 
tu elok2lah supaya boleh difahami. 

-Original Message-
From: Selamatlah MALAYSIA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:10:32 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: teruknya pejabat PAS .Teruknya Akhlak Masyarakat dibawah UMNO.


 Kalau pergi ke Kelantan orang selalu mengatakan keburukannya sebab Kelantan 
 diperintah oleh orang mengaji pondok,Bandar tak bersih,Tapi kalau ikut 
 majoriti peniaga kat kelantan nilah yang paling banyak oran melayu meniaga. 
 Mek dah ni orang apa ya???Saya tak lah melenting tapi kalau diikutkan 
 Malaysia Negara Islam
 Setiap malam kalau dah terpaksa balik ikut Bandar Kuala Lumpur tu terutama 
 nya Area Bukit Bintang Belakang Lot10 Langsung tak nampak budaya Islam 
 disitu SAYA CABAR MEK DAH pergilah tengok waktu malam.Saya ingat dia mesti 
 tak berani apa yang kerajaan BN buat.MAKSIAT?
 Tandas kotor boleh dibersihkan kalau kita nampak kotor kita tolong lah jadi 
 masyarakat prihatin Bersihkan lah.
 Tapi kalau masyarakat yang kotor bersih berpakaian tapi separuh bertelanjang 
 macamana nak dibersihkan?
 Saya tak melenting tapi malu nak bawa anak kalau terpaksa keluar diwaktu 
 malam,Inilah NEGARA ISLAM Pergilah tengok sendiri dengan Haloween night 
 Pubnya tah apa-apalah lagi NEGARA ISLAM MALAYSIA.
 Kalau yang tak dak iman jangan dok pi.
 
 
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Re: H-Net* Menteri kata POLIS BPR lembab....

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik apa nama


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Assalamualaikum,

Mungkin BPR kena siasat polis kenapa tak ada tindakan
lanjut. Atau polis kena siasat BPR kenapa tak ada
tindakan lanjut. Lepas tu lapur kat Menteri. Atau
Polis siasat Menteri kerana memfitnah dan menghasut
rakyat benci Polis dan BPR, atau ...aku pun pening
dah.. aku baliklah dulu...

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From: mee goreng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: H-Net* Menteri kata POLIS  BPR lembab


 Siasatan kes PPRT disoal -- Menteri masih tunggu keputusan selepas setahun laporan 
dibuat
 
 Oleh: RAMLI ABDUL KARIM dan ZULKIFLI JALIL
 KUALA LUMPUR 26 Okt. - Menteri Pembangunan Luar Bandar, Datuk Azmi Khalid 
mempersoalkan mengapa polis dan Badan Pencegah Rasuah (BPR) lewat menyelesaikan 
siasatan kes penipuan pelaburan bernilai RM47 juta dalam projek Program Pembangunan 
Rakyat Termiskin (PPRT).
 
 Laporan mengenai penyelewengan itu dibuat oleh kementerian tersebut setahun lalu.
 
 Menurutnya, sehingga kini belum ada sebarang tindakan diambil oleh kedua-dua agensi 
itu walaupun unsur penyelewengan dan penipuan disyaki berlaku oleh Jabatan Audit 
Negara.
 
 Siasatan oleh Jabatan Audit Negara ke atas projek-projek PPRT itu dibuat atas 
permintaan kementeriannya sendiri.
 
 Beliau menambah, laporan polis dan BPR mengenai perkara itu yang dibuat atas arahan 
beliau sendiri turut disertakan dengan hasil siasatan daripada sebuah firma akauntan 
terkemuka.
 
 Katanya, kelewatan menyelesaikan siasatan kes penipuan projek-projek yang dimajukan 
pada tahun 1998 itu, menyebabkan pihaknya berada dalam dilema sama ada mahu 
meneruskan atau menghentikan projek-projek tersebut.
 
 ``Saya sendiri membawanya ke Kabinet kenapa (siasatan) terlewat. Dalam dua mesyuarat 
Kabinet yang lalu, saya katakan ada kes-kes yang perlu diselesaikan segera tetapi 
belum ada apa-apa tindakan.
 
 ``Maklum balas pun setelah saya minta, ada sedikit maklum balas tetapi tidak ada 
hujung pangkal,'' katanya kepada Utusan di sini.
 
 Tegas Azmi: ``Tidak ada pegawai polis datang bertanya kepada saya dan saya tidak 
tahu sama ada polis turun ke bawah menyiasat... saya tidak tahu.
 
 ``Saya telah menghantar semua laporan juruaudit negara kepada BPR tetapi tiada siapa 
menghubungi saya.''
 
 Beliau mengulas laporan polis yang dibuat oleh pihaknya berhubung penipuan pelaburan 
PPRT memandangkan kesannya kepada Kementerian Pembangunan Luar Bandar adalah negatif.
 
 Isu penyelewengan projek PPRT itu mendapat perhatian umum ekoran pendedahan laporan 
Jabatan Audit Negara di Parlimen baru-baru ini.
 
 Perkembangan mengenainya telah dimaklumkan kepada Timbalan Perdana Menteri, Datuk 
Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
 
 Mengulas lanjut Azmi berkata, dua daripada projek yang gagal di Kelantan dan 
Terengganu itu dikendalikan oleh syarikat yang sama.
 
 Beliau mengesahkan syarikat terbabit memperoleh projek tersebut tanpa melalui sistem 
tender, yang menjadi prosedur biasa kerajaan.
 
 ``Syarikat itu datang mengemukakan projek dengan ideanya. Bukan sahaja orang yang 
sama buat projek sama... syarikatnya juga sama.''
 
 Menurut Azmi lagi, jika diteliti saiz syarikat itu, ia bukanlah syarikat besar 
tetapi disebabkan salah sistem pemantauan, projek berkenaan mengalami kegagalan.
 
 ``Orang dan kakitangan kementerian juga ada dalam lembaga pengarah syarikat itu.''
 
 Menurut Azmi, sebelum ini, beliau ada menerima maklumat daripada BPR di peringkat 
kawasan kononnya telah memberi maklumat kepada ibu pejabat agensi itu bahawa tiada 
kes untuk disiasat.
 
 ``Saya kata tidak boleh. Jangan biarkan kes ini disiasat di peringkat kawasan, ia 
kena disiasat oleh peringkat atasan atau ibu pejabat.
 
 ``Sehingga hari ini, tiada maklumat terbaru, mungkin mereka (polis dan BPR) banyak 
kerja atau memang kes ini memakan masa untuk disiasat.''
 
 Azmi menambah, ketika baru memegang jawatan Menteri Pembangunan Luar Bandar selepas 
pilihan raya umum 1999, beliau memang menyedari ada perkara yang tidak betul telah 
berlaku.
 
 ``Selepas itu, saya mengambil tindakan-tindakan yang perlu. Jadi, ia (laporan audit 
yang didedahkan di Parlimen) mengesahkan apa yang saya syaki selama ini,'' katanya.
 
 Menurut Azmi, pihaknya sedang dalam proses menyiasat secara menyeluruh nilai sebenar 
yang terlibat dalam penyelewengan PPRT tetapi yang telah dipastikan membabitkan empat 
projek bernilai RM47 juta.
 
 Ditanya jumlah peserta PPRT yang gagal memperoleh manfaatnya, beliau berkata, ia 
melibatkan 1,175 keluarga.
 
 Ditanya mengapa kementerian pada waktu itu (1998) begitu mudah meluluskan satu 

H-Net* Kenapa rakyat afghanistan berani?

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik mee goreng


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Assalamualaikum,

Kalau kita baca artikel yg mr hadi dll hantar pasal
afghanistan, pasal ucapan2 ketua2 dia orang, maka no
wonder keberanian rakyat afghanistan begitu ketara
dan dihormati serta digeruni oleh even superpower.

We are ready to fight against the infidels either to
become a ghazi (hero) or shaheed (martyr) for the
cause of Islam, Taliban Minister for Information 
and Culture Qudratullah Jamal said. 

Itu baru menteri info dan culture. Belum menteri
perang lagi. Banding dengan menteri kita - just
one call from white houseampun tuanku, ambo
setuju. Rakyat pun apa lagi...junjung atas batu
jemala patiklah jawabnya.


 
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Re: H-Net* Kenapa rakyat afghanistan berani?

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik KHALILI


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mee goreng basah satu siap .
itulah yg membezakan ...keimanan dan tidak .kiter kat mesia
pon biler dengar ucapan begitu tak der raser pon ...tapi beria
mengaji islam bersaudara ..la perpaduan ler jadik rakyat kene
lantik pemimpin yg macam mullah omar ..utk mewakili negara ke
sidang PBB baru ader erti PBB ker OIC ker 
pendek kater rakyat ler yg menetukan bukan pemimpin .




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Assalamualaikum,

Kalau kita baca artikel yg mr hadi dll hantar pasal
afghanistan, pasal ucapan2 ketua2 dia orang, maka no
wonder keberanian rakyat afghanistan begitu ketara
dan dihormati serta digeruni oleh even superpower.

We are ready to fight against the infidels either to
become a ghazi (hero) or shaheed (martyr) for the
cause of Islam, Taliban Minister for Information
and Culture Qudratullah Jamal said.

Itu baru menteri info dan culture. Belum menteri
perang lagi. Banding dengan menteri kita - just
one call from white houseampun tuanku, ambo
setuju. Rakyat pun apa lagi...junjung atas batu
jemala patiklah jawabnya.



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H-Net* Re: TV Malaysia dan CNN

2001-10-26 Terurut Topik TigerChan


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 Dalam suasana umat Islam diseluruh dunia ditindas,dihina malahan
 diperangi.masih terdapat umat islam dikalangan kita yg 
 sibuk membahaskan tentang fahaman mereka serta mengentam jema'ah-
 jema'ah lain yang mana masing-masing berlandaskan ilmiah yg tinggi 
 serta memeningkan kepala bagi orang-orang awam seperti saya ini.

Sebab itulah saya tidak berminat membicarakan tentang keburukan
mana-mana puak mazhab dan aliran. Saya tidak berminat mendedahan
keburukan Syiah, Wahabi, Sunni, Sufi atau Tariqat. Zaman sekarang
ialah zaman kita diserang oleh musuh-musuh Islam yang terdiri
daripada puak kuffar, munafik, murtad dan sekular. Cuba perhatikan
puak-puak yang anti-Islam BERSATU menentang mana-mana puak Islam
yang mereka namakan sebagai fundamentalis. Perbalahan sesama
Islam membuat untung kepada musuh-musuh Islam.

Berkenaan dengan Taliban, sebenarnya saya tidak pernah menyokong
gerakan itu. Tetapi Islam mengajar kita supaya meneliti berita-
berita yang datang daripada pihak anti-Islam yang kalau-kalau mereka 
ada cuba memburuk-buruk mana-mana puak Islam. Bersikap berhati-
hati adalah mengikut ajaran Islam. Kalau mengikut istilah Taliban
bererti penuntut ugama cara pondok. Saya sendiri pernah mendapat
pendidikan pondok, kerana itu saya mengisytiharkan diri saya adalah
Taliban secara umum. Saya berasa bangga apabila disebut seorang
berfahaman fundamentalis. Begitu juga saya berasa bangga apabila
Taliban itu sebut sebagai puak fundamentalis.

Memang tujuan TV1 Malaysia dan CNN menjadi alat Yahudi dan Amerika
untuk memburuk-buruk imej Islam. Gerakan Taliban ialah masalah
dalaman ummat Islam sendiri. Jika kita mahu mengubah Taliban, adalah
menjadi tugas kita sebagai ummat Islam mengambil perhatian terhadap
mereka. Media Barat yang anti-Islam mengambil kesempatan memberi
contoh kepada masyarakat Barat tentang keburukan geraakan funda-
mentalis yang mereka cuba gambarkan yang ada pada Taliban. Kita
HAIRAN, pihak TV Malaysia yang bersungguh-sungguh memainkan peranan
menyibar propaganda Barat. Cuma kita dapat simpulkan bahawa memang
TV Malaysia ialah anti-Islam. Begitu juga UMNO adalah anti-Islam.

 
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