RE: [hlcoders] RE: Source SDK released
Yeah, I know. I find it rather annoying that you have to spend the extra for
those extras when you already own them. >.<
Heck, I'd like it if it only showed packages that you'd NEED to buy to get
that... So, if you own HL already... Then it wouldn't bother with some of
them... Heck, or even if it lowered the price on the higher packages!
~
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Foss
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] RE: Source SDK released
>
> I would rather have DOD:S for my multiplayer. :(
>
> Second, anyone find it odd that you're also buying the games you
> already own when you buy silver/gold? Why not knock off 5 bucks from
> silver to get DOD:S and HL:S along with HL2 and CS:S without the back
> catalog... Call it the "fanboy package" ("I already own everything
> else, I just want the goodies") :D
>
>
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 14:09:40 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Imperio59 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > So, if we decided not to buy "t3h Kiddie MOD" game (aka CS:S) then we
> > > have to wait until nov 16th the earliest to start coding?
> > >
> > > Please tell me this is only the hammer and model tools and not the
> code
> > > yet, or i'm gonna shoot myself...
> > >
> > > I'm already paying 160 bucks for HL2 ( 50 bucks the game, 30 bucks
> > > international shipping to my island, and the price itself in local
> taxes
> > > and customs fees) just to get it early enough to get a head start for
> my
> > > MOD, but that's not enough, if i want it now, i have to buy a Source
> > > game, but since there's only one out, i have to buy... a MOD.
> > >
> > > I loose my faith in Valve more and more everyday...
> > >
> > > *Looks at his OpenGL engine.*
> > > *Pets his OpenGL engine*
> > > "We don't need them precious, you and me and we can rule the world!"
> > >
> > a) You don't buy CS:Source, you buy HL2 (you get access upon it's
> > release, until then you get CS:S), and CS:Source comes with it as
> > Multiplayer. no matter what you do, you're going to get CS:Source.
> > b) It sounds like it'd be far cheaper for you to download it through
> steam
> > c) Yeah, the code isn't included yet, that'll probably be released
> > around HL2's release.
> >
> > So, in USD, HL2 Gold is 89.95 and comes with: HL2, CS:S, DOD:S, HL:S,
> > and all the old games (hl1, cs:cz, etc) plus a soundtrack, chance to win
> > a trip to valve, posters, etc. HL2 Silver comes with the gold games (no
> > extra stuff). HL2 bronze comes with HL2 and CS:S.
> >
> > So, no matter what you do, you're stuck getting CS:Source, but you're
> > certainly not stuck ONLY getting it.
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [hlcoders] RE: Source SDK released
I think many people would (me included), but I guess they figured that they can't please everybody, and CS is the most widely played. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:31:44 -0800, Andrew Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would rather have DOD:S for my multiplayer. :( > > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 14:09:40 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Imperio59 wrote: > > > > > > > > > So, if we decided not to buy "t3h Kiddie MOD" game (aka CS:S) then we > > > have to wait until nov 16th the earliest to start coding? > > > > > > Please tell me this is only the hammer and model tools and not the code > > > yet, or i'm gonna shoot myself... > > > > > > I'm already paying 160 bucks for HL2 ( 50 bucks the game, 30 bucks > > > international shipping to my island, and the price itself in local taxes > > > and customs fees) just to get it early enough to get a head start for my > > > MOD, but that's not enough, if i want it now, i have to buy a Source > > > game, but since there's only one out, i have to buy... a MOD. > > > > > > I loose my faith in Valve more and more everyday... > > > > > > *Looks at his OpenGL engine.* > > > *Pets his OpenGL engine* > > > "We don't need them precious, you and me and we can rule the world!" > > > > > a) You don't buy CS:Source, you buy HL2 (you get access upon it's > > release, until then you get CS:S), and CS:Source comes with it as > > Multiplayer. no matter what you do, you're going to get CS:Source. > > b) It sounds like it'd be far cheaper for you to download it through steam > > c) Yeah, the code isn't included yet, that'll probably be released > > around HL2's release. > > > > So, in USD, HL2 Gold is 89.95 and comes with: HL2, CS:S, DOD:S, HL:S, > > and all the old games (hl1, cs:cz, etc) plus a soundtrack, chance to win > > a trip to valve, posters, etc. HL2 Silver comes with the gold games (no > > extra stuff). HL2 bronze comes with HL2 and CS:S. > > > > So, no matter what you do, you're stuck getting CS:Source, but you're > > certainly not stuck ONLY getting it. > > > > -- > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > > visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- Henry Malthus ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] RE: Source SDK released
I would rather have DOD:S for my multiplayer. :(
Second, anyone find it odd that you're also buying the games you
already own when you buy silver/gold? Why not knock off 5 bucks from
silver to get DOD:S and HL:S along with HL2 and CS:S without the back
catalog... Call it the "fanboy package" ("I already own everything
else, I just want the goodies") :D
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 14:09:40 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Imperio59 wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, if we decided not to buy "t3h Kiddie MOD" game (aka CS:S) then we
> > have to wait until nov 16th the earliest to start coding?
> >
> > Please tell me this is only the hammer and model tools and not the code
> > yet, or i'm gonna shoot myself...
> >
> > I'm already paying 160 bucks for HL2 ( 50 bucks the game, 30 bucks
> > international shipping to my island, and the price itself in local taxes
> > and customs fees) just to get it early enough to get a head start for my
> > MOD, but that's not enough, if i want it now, i have to buy a Source
> > game, but since there's only one out, i have to buy... a MOD.
> >
> > I loose my faith in Valve more and more everyday...
> >
> > *Looks at his OpenGL engine.*
> > *Pets his OpenGL engine*
> > "We don't need them precious, you and me and we can rule the world!"
> >
> a) You don't buy CS:Source, you buy HL2 (you get access upon it's
> release, until then you get CS:S), and CS:Source comes with it as
> Multiplayer. no matter what you do, you're going to get CS:Source.
> b) It sounds like it'd be far cheaper for you to download it through steam
> c) Yeah, the code isn't included yet, that'll probably be released
> around HL2's release.
>
> So, in USD, HL2 Gold is 89.95 and comes with: HL2, CS:S, DOD:S, HL:S,
> and all the old games (hl1, cs:cz, etc) plus a soundtrack, chance to win
> a trip to valve, posters, etc. HL2 Silver comes with the gold games (no
> extra stuff). HL2 bronze comes with HL2 and CS:S.
>
> So, no matter what you do, you're stuck getting CS:Source, but you're
> certainly not stuck ONLY getting it.
>
> --
>
> - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
>
>
>
>
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Re: [hlcoders] RE: Source SDK released
Imperio59 wrote: So, if we decided not to buy "t3h Kiddie MOD" game (aka CS:S) then we have to wait until nov 16th the earliest to start coding? Please tell me this is only the hammer and model tools and not the code yet, or i'm gonna shoot myself... I'm already paying 160 bucks for HL2 ( 50 bucks the game, 30 bucks international shipping to my island, and the price itself in local taxes and customs fees) just to get it early enough to get a head start for my MOD, but that's not enough, if i want it now, i have to buy a Source game, but since there's only one out, i have to buy... a MOD. I loose my faith in Valve more and more everyday... *Looks at his OpenGL engine.* *Pets his OpenGL engine* "We don't need them precious, you and me and we can rule the world!" a) You don't buy CS:Source, you buy HL2 (you get access upon it's release, until then you get CS:S), and CS:Source comes with it as Multiplayer. no matter what you do, you're going to get CS:Source. b) It sounds like it'd be far cheaper for you to download it through steam c) Yeah, the code isn't included yet, that'll probably be released around HL2's release. So, in USD, HL2 Gold is 89.95 and comes with: HL2, CS:S, DOD:S, HL:S, and all the old games (hl1, cs:cz, etc) plus a soundtrack, chance to win a trip to valve, posters, etc. HL2 Silver comes with the gold games (no extra stuff). HL2 bronze comes with HL2 and CS:S. So, no matter what you do, you're stuck getting CS:Source, but you're certainly not stuck ONLY getting it. -- - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] RE: Source SDK released
So, if we decided not to buy "t3h Kiddie MOD" game (aka CS:S) then we have to wait until nov 16th the earliest to start coding? Please tell me this is only the hammer and model tools and not the code yet, or i'm gonna shoot myself... I'm already paying 160 bucks for HL2 ( 50 bucks the game, 30 bucks international shipping to my island, and the price itself in local taxes and customs fees) just to get it early enough to get a head start for my MOD, but that's not enough, if i want it now, i have to buy a Source game, but since there's only one out, i have to buy... a MOD. I loose my faith in Valve more and more everyday... *Looks at his OpenGL engine.* *Pets his OpenGL engine* "We don't need them precious, you and me and we can rule the world!" ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] height2normal.exe
Anyone find any documentation on this tool and how to use it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
K. Mike Bradley wrote: OMG ! IT's HERE No One do any maps till I convert my maps please ... I wana be first I think the people that are converting their maps from the illegally aquired a version will get there pretty fast, so you'll have to work a bit faster to be first :o -- - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
OMG ! IT's HERE No One do any maps till I convert my maps please ... I wana be first -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today. I click all the links and nothing DL's TEASE !!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Childe Roland Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today. Does that mean we can download those things now? I don't see anything in steam to get them. Childe Roland "I will show you fear in a handful of jelly beans." ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
K. Mike Bradley wrote: I click all the links and nothing DL's TEASE !!! O.o If you have a Source game you can get them if you restart steam (assuming you haven't already). If you don't have a source game...well... lets hope it doesn't come to that. -- - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Kevin Gerry wrote: Because some people are weird like that... They want to be able to stick up their old HL code projects for other people to learn by. Why keep some old mod idea die with you? ~ Perhaps, but just releasing it under VALVe's default stuff would work fine. I mean, there's copyright to stop them claiming it's theirs if they continue it, and the chances of them selling it aren't entirely too high :o -- - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Donch'a love NDAs? ^_^ Gets you out of 'having' to reply to a -lot- of stupid questions. =) ~ > Hasan Aljudy wrote: > > hmm, bortman, I thought you worked with valve? don't you have access > > to the whole half-life source (including engine)? > > "I thought you worked with valve?" > > I work for Gearbox Software. > > "don't you have access to the whole half-life source (including engine)?" > > No comment. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
aha .. and I meant the half-life engine's source code. On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:46:53 -0600, Jeffrey botman Broome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hasan Aljudy wrote: > > hmm, bortman, I thought you worked with valve? don't you have access > > to the whole half-life source (including engine)? > > "I thought you worked with valve?" > > I work for Gearbox Software. > > "don't you have access to the whole half-life source (including engine)?" > > No comment. > > -- > > > Jeffrey "botman" Broome > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
I click all the links and nothing DL's TEASE !!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Childe Roland Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today. Does that mean we can download those things now? I don't see anything in steam to get them. Childe Roland "I will show you fear in a handful of jelly beans." ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Because some people are weird like that... They want to be able to stick up their old HL code projects for other people to learn by. Why keep some old mod idea die with you? ~ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 5:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released > > Kevin Gerry wrote: > > >I think he means... > > > >He can't make his modifications GPL since he can't control who owns > Source. > > > >~ > > > > > I might be missing the picture here, but why would you *want* to make a > mod under the GPL? I wouldn't have thought you'd be able to do that > with any commerical game anyway, but yeah. You'd just end up with 300 > different variations that all modify it a little bit to suit their > needs/wants :s > > -- > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Hasan Aljudy wrote: hmm, bortman, I thought you worked with valve? don't you have access to the whole half-life source (including engine)? "I thought you worked with valve?" I work for Gearbox Software. "don't you have access to the whole half-life source (including engine)?" No comment. -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Ahh, you have to restart Steam for it to show up, eh? *sigh* I wish that Steam would auto-add games/programs when they're added rather than having to restart the program. ~ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Davison > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released > > In the steam games list. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gerry > Sent: 05 November 2004 23:59 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released > > Question here... > > WHERE is the SDK to DL? > > Maybe I'm blind here? > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
hmm, bortman, I thought you worked with valve? don't you have access to the whole half-life source (including engine)? On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:16:51 -0600, Jeffrey botman Broome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you don't own CS:Source (like me), you don't have the HL2 SDK. :( > > -- > Jeffrey "botman" Broome > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Kevin Gerry wrote: I think he means... He can't make his modifications GPL since he can't control who owns Source. ~ I might be missing the picture here, but why would you *want* to make a mod under the GPL? I wouldn't have thought you'd be able to do that with any commerical game anyway, but yeah. You'd just end up with 300 different variations that all modify it a little bit to suit their needs/wants :s -- - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] Re: Source SDK released
I got a mirror up for the SDK docs. You can find it here: http://www.hl2modcentral.com/sdk/ I hope thats alittle faster :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
It didn't show up for me until I restarted steam -ilian - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey "botman" Broome" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's Steam. Updating is automatic. I'm assuming if you own a Source game (CS:Source is currently the only one available to play), just look in your Steam folder for the SDK (Steam\SteamApps\\sourcesdk). If you don't own CS:Source (like me), you don't have the HL2 SDK. :( ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Kevin Gerry wrote: Question here... WHERE is the SDK to DL? Maybe I'm blind here? It's Steam. Updating is automatic. I'm assuming if you own a Source game (CS:Source is currently the only one available to play), just look in your Steam folder for the SDK (Steam\SteamApps\\sourcesdk). If you don't own CS:Source (like me), you don't have the HL2 SDK. :( -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
I think he means... He can't make his modifications GPL since he can't control who owns Source. ~ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hasan Aljudy > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released > > how can you make a mod if you don't have source anyway? > > > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:55:23 +0100, Oskar Lindgren > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does this mean that you MOST own a source account to use the SDK? If so, > > that means that I will not be able to release the complete source code > > for my upcoming HL2 MOD. If this is correct I will not make a MOD. > > > > > > > > Brian "Satertek" Irelan wrote: > > > > >You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > > > > >I don't see how you can get more clear than that, you have to have a > > >Source game bought on your account. > > > > > >And: > > >"This release includes Source tools (Hammer, Model Viewer, etc) and > > >work-in-progress documentation. These tools allow creation of > > >Counter-Strike Source maps, models, and materials." > > > > > >So I guess we'll have to wait till around the HL2 release for the code? > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:53:20 -0600, Jeffrey botman Broome > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Martin Otten wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>--- > > >>> > > >>>The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > > >>>You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>"You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be > available > > >>to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a Source game? > > >> > > >>-- > > >>Jeffrey "botman" Broome > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>___ > > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Get Firefox > > >http://www.GetFirefox.com > > > > > >___ > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
In the steam games list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gerry Sent: 05 November 2004 23:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released Question here... WHERE is the SDK to DL? Maybe I'm blind here? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
restart steam. it's under tools. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:59:07 -0800, Kevin Gerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question here... > > WHERE is the SDK to DL? > > Maybe I'm blind here? > > ~ > Geez, and Valve-ERC is -CRAWLING-! > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:59 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released > > > > Correct, to access the SDK at the moment you need to own a Source game. > > > > - Alfred > > > > Original Message > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey > > "botman" Broome Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:53 PM To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK > > released > > > > > Martin Otten wrote: > > > > --- > > > > > > > > The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > > > > You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > > > > > "You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be > > > available to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a > > > Source game? > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
how can you make a mod if you don't have source anyway? On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:55:23 +0100, Oskar Lindgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this mean that you MOST own a source account to use the SDK? If so, > that means that I will not be able to release the complete source code > for my upcoming HL2 MOD. If this is correct I will not make a MOD. > > > > Brian "Satertek" Irelan wrote: > > >You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > > >I don't see how you can get more clear than that, you have to have a > >Source game bought on your account. > > > >And: > >"This release includes Source tools (Hammer, Model Viewer, etc) and > >work-in-progress documentation. These tools allow creation of > >Counter-Strike Source maps, models, and materials." > > > >So I guess we'll have to wait till around the HL2 release for the code? > > > > > > > >On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:53:20 -0600, Jeffrey botman Broome > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Martin Otten wrote: > >> > >> > >>>--- > >>> > >>>The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > >>>You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > >>> > >>> > >>"You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be available > >>to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a Source game? > >> > >>-- > >>Jeffrey "botman" Broome > >> > >> > >> > >>___ > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > >>visit: > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >Get Firefox > >http://www.GetFirefox.com > > > >___ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Question here... WHERE is the SDK to DL? Maybe I'm blind here? ~ Geez, and Valve-ERC is -CRAWLING-! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released > > Correct, to access the SDK at the moment you need to own a Source game. > > - Alfred > > Original Message > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey > "botman" Broome Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:53 PM To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK > released > > > Martin Otten wrote: > > > --- > > > > > > The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > > > You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > > > "You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be > > available to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a > > Source game? > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Does this mean that you MOST own a source account to use the SDK? If so, that means that I will not be able to release the complete source code for my upcoming HL2 MOD. If this is correct I will not make a MOD. Brian "Satertek" Irelan wrote: You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. I don't see how you can get more clear than that, you have to have a Source game bought on your account. And: "This release includes Source tools (Hammer, Model Viewer, etc) and work-in-progress documentation. These tools allow creation of Counter-Strike Source maps, models, and materials." So I guess we'll have to wait till around the HL2 release for the code? On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:53:20 -0600, Jeffrey botman Broome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Otten wrote: --- The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. "You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be available to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a Source game? -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Get Firefox http://www.GetFirefox.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
We, so am I! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carr Sent: 05 November 2004 23:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today. It is out though. Like im in Hammer now. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. I don't see how you can get more clear than that, you have to have a Source game bought on your account. And: "This release includes Source tools (Hammer, Model Viewer, etc) and work-in-progress documentation. These tools allow creation of Counter-Strike Source maps, models, and materials." So I guess we'll have to wait till around the HL2 release for the code? On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:53:20 -0600, Jeffrey botman Broome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Otten wrote: > > --- > > > > The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > > You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > "You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be available > to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a Source game? > > -- > Jeffrey "botman" Broome > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- Get Firefox http://www.GetFirefox.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
It is out though. Like im in Hammer now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian "Satertek" Irelan Sent: 05 November 2004 22:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today. Psh, they would never release it today. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:35:31 -0700, Hasan Aljudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O_O > wow > how did you find it? > kool. can't wait. > > > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:43:27 -, Ben Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Source%20SDK.html > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- Get Firefox http://www.GetFirefox.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Correct, to access the SDK at the moment you need to own a Source game. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey "botman" Broome Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released > Martin Otten wrote: > > --- > > > > The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > > You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > "You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be > available to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a > Source game? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
they actually did already. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:50:15 -0600, Brian Satertek Irelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Psh, they would never release it today. > > > > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:35:31 -0700, Hasan Aljudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > O_O > > wow > > how did you find it? > > kool. can't wait. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:43:27 -, Ben Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Source%20SDK.html > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > > visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > -- > Get Firefox > http://www.GetFirefox.com > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Martin Otten wrote: --- The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. "You need to own a Source game", is the SDK *NOT* going to be available to someone who has a Steam account, but doesn't own a Source game? -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
Psh, they would never release it today. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:35:31 -0700, Hasan Aljudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O_O > wow > how did you find it? > kool. can't wait. > > > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:43:27 -, Ben Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Source%20SDK.html > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- Get Firefox http://www.GetFirefox.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Awesome, nice work guys. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:26:43 -0800, Martin Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > > The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > This release includes Source tools and work-in-progress > documentation. These tools allow creation of Counter-Strike Source > maps, models, and materials. Once the SDK is downloaded and > installed, all tools, example content and documentation will located > in your Steam folder Steam\SteamApps\\sourcesdk. Tools like > Hammer and Half-Life Model Viewer can be started directly from the > Steam SDK menu. > > The Source SDK will be continously updated, this first > release doesn't contain any source code to build customized server & > client binaries (Mods). > > For help on the SDK release visit http://collective.valve-erc.com/ > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- Get Firefox http://www.GetFirefox.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK released
Great! :D I <3 valve On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:26:43 -0800, Martin Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > > The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. > You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. > > This release includes Source tools and work-in-progress > documentation. These tools allow creation of Counter-Strike Source > maps, models, and materials. Once the SDK is downloaded and > installed, all tools, example content and documentation will located > in your Steam folder Steam\SteamApps\\sourcesdk. Tools like > Hammer and Half-Life Model Viewer can be started directly from the > Steam SDK menu. > > The Source SDK will be continously updated, this first > release doesn't contain any source code to build customized server & > client binaries (Mods). > > For help on the SDK release visit http://collective.valve-erc.com/ > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
O_O wow how did you find it? kool. can't wait. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:43:27 -, Ben Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Source%20SDK.html > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] Source SDK released
--- The initial version of the Source SDK has been released. You need to own a Source game to have access to the SDK. This release includes Source tools and work-in-progress documentation. These tools allow creation of Counter-Strike Source maps, models, and materials. Once the SDK is downloaded and installed, all tools, example content and documentation will located in your Steam folder Steam\SteamApps\\sourcesdk. Tools like Hammer and Half-Life Model Viewer can be started directly from the Steam SDK menu. The Source SDK will be continously updated, this first release doesn't contain any source code to build customized server & client binaries (Mods). For help on the SDK release visit http://collective.valve-erc.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
Does that mean we can download those things now? I don't see anything in steam to get them. Childe Roland "I will show you fear in a handful of jelly beans." ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Source rcon protocol
Do log_addaddress "192.168.0.50:6888" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fernando Manso Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source rcon protocol It seems it doesnt get the correct sintax. This is what i get in console: log_addaddress 192.168.0.50:6888 log_addaddress: usage log_addaddress ip:port something wrong ? excuse my english. thanks. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:11:11 +0100, Fernando Manso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dont ask for the command. I know the command but it dont works, or > dont works like cs1.6 or something. I cant get the logs remotely on > source but I can in cs1.6. > > > > > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:05:13 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Fernando Manso wrote: > > > > >Ok thanks that was the problem. > > > > > >But another question. Do log_addaddress works on srcds ? I am > > >trying it and I receive the log with cs1.6 but not with source. > > > > > >Thanks again ! > > > > > > > > cvarlist in the console shows the following commands for Source > > regarding logs: > > log : cmd > > : : Enables standard log file <0|1>. > > log_addaddress : cmd > > : : Set address and port for remote host . > > log_console : cmd > > : : Echos event logging in console <0|1>. > > log_events : cmd > > : : Set UDP logging to remote host <0|1>. > > log_level: cmd > > : : Specifies a logging level 0..15 . > > log_udp : cmd > > : : Send log packets to hosts in address list <0|1>. > > > > -- > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source rcon protocol
It seems it doesnt get the correct sintax. This is what i get in console: log_addaddress 192.168.0.50:6888 log_addaddress: usage log_addaddress ip:port something wrong ? excuse my english. thanks. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:11:11 +0100, Fernando Manso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dont ask for the command. I know the command but it dont works, or > dont works like cs1.6 or something. I cant get the logs remotely on > source but I can in cs1.6. > > > > > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:05:13 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Fernando Manso wrote: > > > > >Ok thanks that was the problem. > > > > > >But another question. Do log_addaddress works on srcds ? I am trying > > >it and I receive the log with cs1.6 but not with source. > > > > > >Thanks again ! > > > > > > > > cvarlist in the console shows the following commands for Source > > regarding logs: > > log : cmd > > : : Enables standard log file <0|1>. > > log_addaddress : cmd > > : : Set address and port for remote host . > > log_console : cmd > > : : Echos event logging in console <0|1>. > > log_events : cmd > > : : Set UDP logging to remote host <0|1>. > > log_level: cmd > > : : Specifies a logging level 0..15 . > > log_udp : cmd > > : : Send log packets to hosts in address list <0|1>. > > > > -- > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > > visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
Ben Davison wrote: Looks like only mapping tools. Yes, but it also has "Documentation" and that's a good thing (assuming it's something similar or better than the .doc files that came with the Half-Life 1 Full SDK). -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] Possible release of the SDK today.
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Source%20SDK.html Looks like only mapping tools. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source rcon protocol
I dont ask for the command. I know the command but it dont works, or dont works like cs1.6 or something. I cant get the logs remotely on source but I can in cs1.6. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:05:13 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fernando Manso wrote: > > >Ok thanks that was the problem. > > > >But another question. Do log_addaddress works on srcds ? I am trying > >it and I receive the log with cs1.6 but not with source. > > > >Thanks again ! > > > > > cvarlist in the console shows the following commands for Source > regarding logs: > log : cmd > : : Enables standard log file <0|1>. > log_addaddress : cmd > : : Set address and port for remote host . > log_console : cmd > : : Echos event logging in console <0|1>. > log_events : cmd > : : Set UDP logging to remote host <0|1>. > log_level: cmd > : : Specifies a logging level 0..15 . > log_udp : cmd > : : Send log packets to hosts in address list <0|1>. > > -- > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source rcon protocol
Fernando Manso wrote: Ok thanks that was the problem. But another question. Do log_addaddress works on srcds ? I am trying it and I receive the log with cs1.6 but not with source. Thanks again ! cvarlist in the console shows the following commands for Source regarding logs: log : cmd : : Enables standard log file <0|1>. log_addaddress : cmd : : Set address and port for remote host . log_console : cmd : : Echos event logging in console <0|1>. log_events : cmd : : Set UDP logging to remote host <0|1>. log_level: cmd : : Specifies a logging level 0..15 . log_udp : cmd : : Send log packets to hosts in address list <0|1>. -- - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Source rcon protocol
Ok thanks that was the problem. But another question. Do log_addaddress works on srcds ? I am trying it and I receive the log with cs1.6 but not with source. Thanks again ! On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 11:53:11 +1100, Richard Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fernando Manso wrote: > > > > >But what i have tested, dont matter if rcon is the good or bad, the > >server response to a SERVERDATA_AUTH is always 0x0 command and 0x0 > >requestid with null strings. So in my app i dont know if the rcon auth > >has failed. > > > > > > > CS:S sends a junk packet first (for the authentication only). > Disregard this packet and use the next one. > http://wikki.kquery.net/index.php/Other:SourceRcon contains useful info. > http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/wabzcon/ for a perl module. > > hth, > Richard > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] memewhat? ai building blocks
:/ heres a game http://www.mindrover.com/mindrover/mindrover.htm with this game you can designing AI for monsters on a good phisic engine Ok, you can code use something similar with the steam phisic engine, I suspect. Even design the "brain" with this game :D Adam "amckern" Mckern wrote: Just dont a sam clone, the game is good, but i dont think source will do the style of game any good, mostly when source is a very phiscs based engin (excuse typos) --- tei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Adam "amckern" Mckern wrote: it looks to be a very good set of tools thanks for the link now i might be able to get my monster_bot that bit smarter, and impress people when i submit it with my job applactions I haven't not tested that still. Dont know how good or bad or usefull is. I think the better approach to AI is the simpler. To have swarm beaviorsJus (like swarm bees or CNC:Generals Mobs) you only need 3 simple rules. This meme stuff is a lot much more complex. Its only interesting because is a block system construction, you can reuse beaviors (follow, attack, sleep, runaway,..etc..) I may start something with HL2 related to this in the future. Because BBOX will be not more a limitation with HL2, I figure, will be posible to have swarms of small enemys, enormeous, etc.. so a better AI will be interesting (having a giant monster and scort, having swarms of minirobots for a LEXX mod, etc..) :D ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] memewhat? ai building blocks
Just dont a sam clone, the game is good, but i dont think source will do the style of game any good, mostly when source is a very phiscs based engin (excuse typos) --- tei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam "amckern" Mckern wrote: > > it looks to be a very good set of tools > > > > thanks for the link > > > > now i might be able to get my monster_bot that bit > > smarter, and impress people when i submit it with > my > > job applactions > > > > I haven't not tested that still. Dont know how good > or bad or usefull is. > > I think the better approach to AI is the simpler. To > have swarm beaviorsJus > (like swarm bees or CNC:Generals Mobs) you only need > 3 simple rules. This > meme stuff is a lot much more complex. Its only > interesting because is a > block system construction, you can reuse beaviors > (follow, attack, sleep, > runaway,..etc..) > > I may start something with HL2 related to this in > the future. Because > BBOX will be not more a limitation with HL2, I > figure, will be posible to > have swarms of small enemys, enormeous, etc.. so a > better AI will be > interesting (having a giant monster and scort, > having swarms of > minirobots for a LEXX mod, etc..) > > :D > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > = http://ammahls.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
