Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta release

2015-09-09 Thread SM Sith Lord 
Things look solid using the beta_test branch in Anarchy Arcade so far.  Should 
we wait until it becomes the main branch before we push the update to users? 
Thanks for the security fixes.
Elijah
  From: John Schoenick 
 To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming  
 Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 2:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta 
release
   
 We hear you -- we are currently working on updates to the github repository to 
provide headers/libs compatible with the SourceSDK beta_test branch, after 
which we hope to promote both to the main/official release.
 
 Unfortunately the 'upcoming' builds suffered from some ABI breakage that 
wasn't resolved in a timely manner -- in an ideal world the beta_test branch 
will function against builds from the current main release as well, but we have 
only done limited testing so far.
 
 - John
  
 

   From: Jan Hartung 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 10:14AM 
 To: 'Discussion Of Half-life Programming' 
 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta 
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second Nicholas and Tobias. Our team still has to replace some sounds but the 
one major thing keeping us from releasing the mod’s new version is that we 
cannot tell people that they’d have to opt into the „upcoming“ beta to be able 
to play the game.    People would install it and see it crash right away, then 
maybe find the solution and ditch it because it’s too much work to opt into 
that beta. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not actually too much work but people are 
used to things working right out of the box.    Jan    Von: 
hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Tobias 
Kammersgaard
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. September 2015 09:54
 An: Discussion of Half-Life Programming 
 Betreff: Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta 
release     Yeah I found that out the hard way recently when bringing my mod to 
2013. I spend hours trying to figure out why it would crash on startup thinking 
I had done  something wrong.  Screw me for assuming the latest code branch 
would actually be compatible with the released version.      On 8 September 
2015 at 05:11, Nicholas Hastings  wrote: 
  The last beta branch for the 2013 SDK, named "upcoming", still hasn't 
officially landed after however long its been (close to a year?).
 
 Additionally, any code changes between "upcoming" and "beta_test" have not yet 
been pushed to the source-sdk-2013 repository on GitHub, which could cause 
further incompatibilities with mods.  -- 
 Nicholas Hastings
 AlliedMods.net  
 
 
  
Eric Smith  Monday, September 7, 2015 10:39 PM We've released a beta 
update for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer depot. The updated depots 
include several security fixes. The name for the beta branch is "beta_test". If 
you're running a game that depends on the  Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer 
tool, please give the beta a try and report any problems. You can email me 
directly with any problems you find.
 
 * Clients can opt-in to the beta using the Betas tab of the Properties dialog 
for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer tool (select "beta_test" in the 
dropdown menu)
 
 * Dedicated servers can find information about how to use a beta here:
 https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD
 
 We're also working on updates for Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: 
Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. We'll have more information about those 
soon.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Eric
 
 
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Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta release

2015-09-08 Thread John Schoenick 
We hear you -- we are currently working on updates to the github 
repository to provide headers/libs compatible with the SourceSDK 
beta_test branch, after which we hope to promote both to the 
main/official release.


Unfortunately the 'upcoming' builds suffered from some ABI breakage that 
wasn't resolved in a timely manner -- in an ideal world the beta_test 
branch will function against builds from the current main release as 
well, but we have only done limited testing so far.


- John

*From:* Jan Hartung
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 10:14AM
*To:* 'Discussion Of Half-life Programming'
*Subject:* Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer 
beta release



I second Nicholas and Tobias. Our team still has to replace some sounds 
but the one major thing keeping us from releasing the mod’s new version 
is that we cannot tell people that they’d have to opt into the 
„upcoming“ beta to be able to play the game.


People would install it and see it crash right away, then maybe find the 
solution and ditch it because it’s too much work to opt into that beta. 
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not actually too much work but people are used 
to things working right out of the box.


Jan

*Von:*hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *Im Auftrag von *Tobias 
Kammersgaard

*Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. September 2015 09:54
*An:* Discussion of Half-Life Programming 
*Betreff:* Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer 
beta release


Yeah I found that out the hard way recently when bringing my mod to 
2013. I spend hours trying to figure out why it would crash on startup 
thinking I had done something wrong.


Screw me for assuming the latest code branch would actually be 
compatible with the released version.


On 8 September 2015 at 05:11, Nicholas Hastings 
mailto:psycho...@alliedmods.net>> wrote:


   The last beta branch for the 2013 SDK, named "upcoming", still
   hasn't officially landed after however long its been (close to a year?).

   Additionally, any code changes between "upcoming" and "beta_test"
   have not yet been pushed to the source-sdk-2013 repository on
   GitHub, which could cause further incompatibilities with mods.

   -- 
   Nicholas Hastings

   AlliedMods.net <http://www.alliedmods.net>




   *Eric Smith* <mailto:er...@valvesoftware.com>

   Monday, September 7, 2015 10:39 PM

   We've released a beta update for the Source SDK Base 2013
   Multiplayer depot. The updated depots include several security
   fixes. The name for the beta branch is "beta_test". If you're
   running a game that depends on the Source SDK Base 2013
   Multiplayer tool, please give the beta a try and report any
   problems. You can email me directly with any problems you find.

   * Clients can opt-in to the beta using the Betas tab of the
   Properties dialog for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer tool
   (select "beta_test" in the dropdown menu)

   * Dedicated servers can find information about how to use a beta
   here:
   https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD

   We're also working on updates for Counter-Strike: Source, Day of
   Defeat: Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. We'll have more
   information about those soon.

   Thanks.

   -Eric


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Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta release

2015-09-08 Thread Jan Hartung 
I second Nicholas and Tobias. Our team still has to replace some sounds but the 
one major thing keeping us from releasing the mod’s new version is that we 
cannot tell people that they’d have to opt into the „upcoming“ beta to be able 
to play the game.

 

People would install it and see it crash right away, then maybe find the 
solution and ditch it because it’s too much work to opt into that beta. Don’t 
get me wrong, it’s not actually too much work but people are used to things 
working right out of the box.

 

Jan

 

Von: hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Tobias 
Kammersgaard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. September 2015 09:54
An: Discussion of Half-Life Programming 
Betreff: Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta 
release

 

Yeah I found that out the hard way recently when bringing my mod to 2013. I 
spend hours trying to figure out why it would crash on startup thinking I had 
done something wrong.

Screw me for assuming the latest code branch would actually be compatible with 
the released version.

 

On 8 September 2015 at 05:11, Nicholas Hastings mailto:psycho...@alliedmods.net> > wrote:

The last beta branch for the 2013 SDK, named "upcoming", still hasn't 
officially landed after however long its been (close to a year?).

Additionally, any code changes between "upcoming" and "beta_test" have not yet 
been pushed to the source-sdk-2013 repository on GitHub, which could cause 
further incompatibilities with mods.

-- 
Nicholas Hastings
AlliedMods.net <http://www.alliedmods.net> 






 <mailto:er...@valvesoftware.com> Eric Smith

Monday, September 7, 2015 10:39 PM

We've released a beta update for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer depot. 
The updated depots include several security fixes. The name for the beta branch 
is "beta_test". If you're running a game that depends on the Source SDK Base 
2013 Multiplayer tool, please give the beta a try and report any problems. You 
can email me directly with any problems you find.

* Clients can opt-in to the beta using the Betas tab of the Properties dialog 
for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer tool (select "beta_test" in the 
dropdown menu)

* Dedicated servers can find information about how to use a beta here:
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD

We're also working on updates for Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: 
Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. We'll have more information about those 
soon.

Thanks.

-Eric


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Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta release

2015-09-08 Thread Tobias Kammersgaard 
Yeah I found that out the hard way recently when bringing my mod to 2013. I
spend hours trying to figure out why it would crash on startup thinking I
had done something wrong.
Screw me for assuming the latest code branch would actually be compatible
with the released version.

On 8 September 2015 at 05:11, Nicholas Hastings 
wrote:

> The last beta branch for the 2013 SDK, named "upcoming", still hasn't
> officially landed after however long its been (close to a year?).
>
> Additionally, any code changes between "upcoming" and "beta_test" have not
> yet been pushed to the source-sdk-2013 repository on GitHub, which could
> cause further incompatibilities with mods.
>
> --
> Nicholas Hastings
> AlliedMods.net 
>
>
>
> Eric Smith 
> Monday, September 7, 2015 10:39 PM
> We've released a beta update for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer
> depot. The updated depots include several security fixes. The name for the
> beta branch is "beta_test". If you're running a game that depends on the
> Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer tool, please give the beta a try and
> report any problems. You can email me directly with any problems you find.
>
> * Clients can opt-in to the beta using the Betas tab of the Properties
> dialog for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer tool (select "beta_test" in
> the dropdown menu)
>
> * Dedicated servers can find information about how to use a beta here:
> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD
>
> We're also working on updates for Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat:
> Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. We'll have more information about
> those soon.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>
>
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Re: [hlcoders] [hlds_linux] Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer beta release

2015-09-07 Thread Nicholas Hastings 
The last beta branch for the 2013 SDK, named "upcoming", still hasn't
officially landed after however long its been (close to a year?).

Additionally, any code changes between "upcoming" and "beta_test" have
not yet been pushed to the source-sdk-2013 repository on GitHub, which
could cause further incompatibilities with mods.

-- 
Nicholas Hastings
AlliedMods.net 



> Eric Smith 
> Monday, September 7, 2015 10:39 PM
> We've released a beta update for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer
> depot. The updated depots include several security fixes. The name for
> the beta branch is "beta_test". If you're running a game that depends
> on the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer tool, please give the beta a
> try and report any problems. You can email me directly with any
> problems you find.
>
> * Clients can opt-in to the beta using the Betas tab of the Properties
> dialog for the Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer tool (select
> "beta_test" in the dropdown menu)
>
> * Dedicated servers can find information about how to use a beta here:
> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD
>
> We're also working on updates for Counter-Strike: Source, Day of
> Defeat: Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. We'll have more
> information about those soon.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>
>
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