Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Clayton Macleod
you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window,
one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after
those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits
the window will still be open and you can see what happened.

On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly!

 Also yes no other mods are running!

 Thanks

 Dan


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RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread dan
This has been done this command prompt closes!!!


-Original Message-
From: Clayton Macleod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 July 2005 07:19
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window,
one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after
those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits
the window will still be open and you can see what happened.

On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly!

 Also yes no other mods are running!

 Thanks

 Dan


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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Clayton Macleod
well, you could always try redirecting output to a file, though I
don't know if it'll help or work properly. Add a  error.txt to the
end of your command to attempt that. Should give you a new file called
error.txt that hopefully contains something useful.

On 7/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This has been done this command prompt closes!!!


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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread OoksServer

IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console window
if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does not
run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike
bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only
thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen
immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it
should work.

- Original Message -
From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error



you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window,
one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after
those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits
the window will still be open and you can see what happened.

On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly!

Also yes no other mods are running!

Thanks

Dan



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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread sprout

is this offsite or onsite? cause I know I have a offsite server and my host
had me put in a command code to my remote connection so I could see the
console applications running in the background could be your problem
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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error



IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console
window
if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does
not
run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike
bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only
thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen
immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it
should work.

- Original Message -
From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error



you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window,
one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after
those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits
the window will still be open and you can see what happened.

On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly!

Also yes no other mods are running!

Thanks

Dan



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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Clayton Macleod
I haven't tried it with hlds, but this would be the first win32
console app I've seen that would open up its own console window when
you're already running in one. And 'command prompt' in
win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console.

On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console window
 if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does not
 run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike
 bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only
 thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen
 immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it
 should work.


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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread m0gely

Clayton Macleod wrote:


And 'command prompt' in
win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console.


Are you always this abrasive?  It's a shell.  I'm sure you'll have some
argument saying MS's definition of their own product is wrong.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds_shelloverview.mspx

I can't understand why I let myself reply to this.

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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread OoksServer

Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it
myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console, and
I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone here
will try it and report their findings fairly soon.

- Original Message -
From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error



I haven't tried it with hlds, but this would be the first win32
console app I've seen that would open up its own console window when
you're already running in one. And 'command prompt' in
win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console.

On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console
window
if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does
not
run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike
bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only
thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen
immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it
should work.



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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread OoksServer

Clayton Macleod wrote:


And 'command prompt' in
win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console.


Are you always this abrasive?  It's a shell.  I'm sure you'll have some
argument saying MS's definition of their own product is wrong.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds_shelloverview.mspx

I can't understand why I let myself reply to this.

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I must be getting soft in my old age, because I bit my tongue and ignored
him instead of flaming back with my usual sarcastic comments. Technically, I
should call it a Command Shell, not a DOS Shell, but for all practical
purposes there is little if any difference. It's a shell, I run DOS stuff in
it. Works for me, but offends the purists shrug...


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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Clayton Macleod
under win9x is pointless, since that *is* a DOS shell and not a win32 console.

On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it
 myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console, and
 I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone here
 will try it and report their findings fairly soon.


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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Clayton Macleod
Yup, just for you, cuz you like it rough. And the point is it is not a
*DOS* shell, and there is no reason for a win32 console app to open a
new console when it's already running in one. There is a big
difference between a DOS shell in win9x and a command prompt/console
in win2000-onward.

On 7/1/05, m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you always this abrasive?  It's a shell.  I'm sure you'll have some
 argument saying MS's definition of their own product is wrong.

 http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds_shelloverview.mspx

 I can't understand why I let myself reply to this.


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[hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 Beta information

2005-07-01 Thread Alfred Reynolds
This is just another nudge, make sure to use -vacbeta on your HL1
servers. There will be a release in the next few weeks to enable VAC2 by
default on servers (with the same command line options as VAC1).

- Alfred

Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred
Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:05 PM To:
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC2 Beta
information

 As most of you know, VAC2 has been in beta for a few weeks. We're
 nearing release, but we need lots of servers to run the beta right
 now in order to complete our testing.

 VAC2 is a significant overhaul of the Valve Anti-Cheat system. Its
 release is going to be a major event in the community, so your help
 during the beta will be much appreciated.

 From experience, we know that the members of this mailing list will
 provide us with better feedback than we'll be able to get elsewhere.
 We need as many of you as possible to start running your servers with
 the
 VAC2 beta code turned on. Once you've started doing so, please send
 us any and all trouble reports by reporting them to  this list.

 Instructions:
 The VAC2 beta functionality is already included in  both the Source
 and
 HL1 dedicated server, just ensure you have the most recent update by
 running the hldsupdatetool.

 In order to turn it on, simply restart your server and add  -vacbeta
 to your the command line.

 We're primarily dealing with connection issues at this point. This
 means that if you choose to run your server using the VAC2 beta, a
 small number of users could have trouble connecting to your server.
 We are particularly interested in hearing about any issues regarding
 connection problems.

 Things to watch for:
 - No Steam Logon errors reported by clients. If a user gets this
 consistently across a couple day period then get them to go to our
 support site for help.
 - steamclient.dll not found, server communication disabled. printed
 out on startup. For linux users make sure you have at least GLIBC
 2.3.2 or above. You also need to allow outbound UDP traffic on port
 27014 from your server. If you do have the correct GLIBC version or
 run under win32 then contact me to debug the problem.

 Thanks for your help.

 - Alfred


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RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Ben
It gives you command line access to the shell, it is not a shell in itself
:P

On 9x it IS a shell in its own right.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod
Sent: 01 July 2005 22:23
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

under win9x is pointless, since that *is* a DOS shell and not a win32
console.

On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it
 myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console,
and
 I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone
here
 will try it and report their findings fairly soon.


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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Ook
OK, boys and girls, once and for all.

drum roll.

If you start hlds.exe from a Command Shell under Win9x, WinXP, or Win2000,
it will open it's own console and run in that. The command shell you start
it from does this:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

P:\hlds -console

P:\

You are back at the ...um...so, can I call this a DOS prompt? Or is it more
correctly the command shell prompt? Whatever you want to call it, you are
there and hlds is running in it's own console/shell.




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From: OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error


 Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it
 myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console,
and
 I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone
here
 will try it and report their findings fairly soon.

 - Original Message -
 From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error


 I haven't tried it with hlds, but this would be the first win32
  console app I've seen that would open up its own console window when
  you're already running in one. And 'command prompt' in
  win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console.
 
  On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console
  window
  if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and
does
  not
  run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike
  bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The
only
  thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen
  immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but
it
  should work.
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Server crashes right after start windows 2k3

2005-07-01 Thread James Tucker
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If you need DEP running on hlds.exe you have bigger problems.

On 6/30/05, Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could disabling DEP protection on hlds.exe, though it doesn't sound like
the problem.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Webber
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:35 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Server crashes right after start windows 2k3


 hey I will say it again its not CSS its CS 1.6

 htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html



 From: Ian mu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Server crashes right after start windows 2k3
 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:06:27 +0100
 
 Also you could try running it from a dos/cmd prompt in the first place
 and doing d:/games/css/hlds.exe -game .
 
 That should leave the black window open so you can see what error
 message its hitting you with.
 
 Ian
 
 On 6/30/05, Michael Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   opps the -max was a miss type its a regular 1.6 server not a CSS
 server.
  
   htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html
  
  
  
   From: Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Server crashes right after start windows 2k3
   Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:53:49 -0700
   
   You use the following
   
   So then I try to start it hlds.exe -game cstrike +max
   de_dust +maxplayers 18 -console and it starts the little black box.
   
   + max... change to following...
   
   srcds.exe -game cstrike -port 27016 +maxplayers 20 -console +map
   de_dust -vacbeta
   
   should work... I am runing Windows x64 and no problems and prior was
   Windows
   XP Pro
   
   Jim
 
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Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error

2005-07-01 Thread Clayton Macleod
you'll notice the shortcut you use to get that command prompt is
called command prompt ;) And yeah, it does open in a brand new
window of its own for whatever reason. Kind of strange, I see no
reason to open a new console when it's already running in one. Oh
well. That's valve for you.

On 7/1/05, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, boys and girls, once and for all.

 drum roll.

 If you start hlds.exe from a Command Shell under Win9x, WinXP, or Win2000,
 it will open it's own console and run in that. The command shell you start
 it from does this:

 Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
 (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

 P:\hlds -console

 P:\

 You are back at the ...um...so, can I call this a DOS prompt? Or is it more
 correctly the command shell prompt? Whatever you want to call it, you are
 there and hlds is running in it's own console/shell.


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