[hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
when you do a refresh, right click on a server and view server info and check the IP address. Mine are all 81.x.x.x and 82.x.x.x, my IP is 81.x.x.x. They look as though they are in order of latency, but thats not the whole picture. It's a fairly well known issue, and some ISPs have even been changing their ip:ports where possible to get further up the list for more people. Absolutely crazy design that whoever designed should be shot for. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Disabled Steam accounts
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I setup and ran a VAC secured server last night and purchased 7 new steam CS Source Accounts for 7 newbies that were going to join us for a LAN frag. 11 players were on the server and all was fine until everybody tried to sign into their steam accounts the following morning. Every player who had participated in the frag had had their steam account disabled. Nobody cheated, no accounts were hijacked, all the accounts were legit. Has this happened to any one else and if so why? Ashley Legg -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
The IP fanning method in action: http://pub-i.com/misc/jjb/cs1.wmv (sorry, made this video a while back and WME's desktop recorder was the only thing handy) I'm in chicago, basically you see it find a few random servers around the midwest, and then take a global (minute long) detour pinging servers in europe/etc to little or no avail, and then finally bring back some of the nicer datacenter servers in the 2xx. range ... The speed improves a lot if I restrict the region, but not many think to do that ... (To get that ip address field just right click one of the column titles) I'm not really sure what can be done about this Encourage clients to set the region filter somehow? -though I understand the region settings aren't quite fine-grained enough for some parts of the world. Apply favortism to known datacenter-owned subnets? -good for datacenters .. Randomize it? -I guess that's somewhat fair ... Hmm Ian mu wrote: when you do a refresh, right click on a server and view server info and check the IP address. Mine are all 81.x.x.x and 82.x.x.x, my IP is 81.x.x.x. They look as though they are in order of latency, but thats not the whole picture. It's a fairly well known issue, and some ISPs have even been changing their ip:ports where possible to get further up the list for more people. Absolutely crazy design that whoever designed should be shot for. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
It's a constant battle to fight this method of IP preferencing but in the first 5 seconds of your videolong live Dallas Killzone : [RaynServ.Com] Heh heh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:27 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. The IP fanning method in action: http://pub-i.com/misc/jjb/cs1.wmv (sorry, made this video a while back and WME's desktop recorder was the only thing handy) I'm in chicago, basically you see it find a few random servers around the midwest, and then take a global (minute long) detour pinging servers in europe/etc to little or no avail, and then finally bring back some of the nicer datacenter servers in the 2xx. range ... The speed improves a lot if I restrict the region, but not many think to do that ... (To get that ip address field just right click one of the column titles) I'm not really sure what can be done about this Encourage clients to set the region filter somehow? -though I understand the region settings aren't quite fine-grained enough for some parts of the world. Apply favortism to known datacenter-owned subnets? -good for datacenters .. Randomize it? -I guess that's somewhat fair ... Hmm Ian mu wrote: when you do a refresh, right click on a server and view server info and check the IP address. Mine are all 81.x.x.x and 82.x.x.x, my IP is 81.x.x.x. They look as though they are in order of latency, but thats not the whole picture. It's a fairly well known issue, and some ISPs have even been changing their ip:ports where possible to get further up the list for more people. Absolutely crazy design that whoever designed should be shot for. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
Have the list sort by ping by default. Not servername, otherwise the idiots with 200 spaces in front of their servername get seen at the top. Not randomized, because I dont want to see a random list, I go straight to filter by ping - Just do it that way! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:09 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. It's a constant battle to fight this method of IP preferencing but in the first 5 seconds of your videolong live Dallas Killzone : [RaynServ.Com] Heh heh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:27 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. The IP fanning method in action: http://pub-i.com/misc/jjb/cs1.wmv (sorry, made this video a while back and WME's desktop recorder was the only thing handy) I'm in chicago, basically you see it find a few random servers around the midwest, and then take a global (minute long) detour pinging servers in europe/etc to little or no avail, and then finally bring back some of the nicer datacenter servers in the 2xx. range ... The speed improves a lot if I restrict the region, but not many think to do that ... (To get that ip address field just right click one of the column titles) I'm not really sure what can be done about this Encourage clients to set the region filter somehow? -though I understand the region settings aren't quite fine-grained enough for some parts of the world. Apply favortism to known datacenter-owned subnets? -good for datacenters .. Randomize it? -I guess that's somewhat fair ... Hmm Ian mu wrote: when you do a refresh, right click on a server and view server info and check the IP address. Mine are all 81.x.x.x and 82.x.x.x, my IP is 81.x.x.x. They look as though they are in order of latency, but thats not the whole picture. It's a fairly well known issue, and some ISPs have even been changing their ip:ports where possible to get further up the list for more people. Absolutely crazy design that whoever designed should be shot for. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts
connections per ip? On 7/27/05, Ashley Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I setup and ran a VAC secured server last night and purchased 7 new steam CS Source Accounts for 7 newbies that were going to join us for a LAN frag. 11 players were on the server and all was fine until everybody tried to sign into their steam accounts the following morning. Every player who had participated in the frag had had their steam account disabled. Nobody cheated, no accounts were hijacked, all the accounts were legit. Has this happened to any one else and if so why? Ashley Legg -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
ER, all I can say is that as a server op, obviously I would like to put my server at the top of the list every time. HOWEVER, as a player I would be ABSOLUTELY LIVID if such a service was made available, even if the price was PREMIUM (arguably, the worst possible eventuality) as that's exactly the kind of crap that destroys communities. My servers come top of MY lists because they have a LOW PING. Other than that I LEAVE IT TO THE USER'S PREFERENCE. Sorry, feel quite strongly about this one. Classical American style: I'll scratch your back if you'll make my stuff look like the best thing since sliced bread, there's no need to mention ethics or truth Maybe what you really want is a way of sorting by server performance (at least then it's kinda fair - you make a good server, more clients use it). Performance from low to high subscriber rates is hard though, as clearly one can optimise for a range of possible loads. Some other titles have started indicating the processor load and network load along with their server browser tools, however these don't cover step-lag from things like VPS solutions, which are often hosted in DC's too. There is no winner here, so there's no point in changing things. On 7/27/05, Andrew Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have the list sort by ping by default. Not servername, otherwise the idiots with 200 spaces in front of their servername get seen at the top. Not randomized, because I dont want to see a random list, I go straight to filter by ping - Just do it that way! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:09 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. It's a constant battle to fight this method of IP preferencing but in the first 5 seconds of your videolong live Dallas Killzone : [RaynServ.Com] Heh heh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:27 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. The IP fanning method in action: http://pub-i.com/misc/jjb/cs1.wmv (sorry, made this video a while back and WME's desktop recorder was the only thing handy) I'm in chicago, basically you see it find a few random servers around the midwest, and then take a global (minute long) detour pinging servers in europe/etc to little or no avail, and then finally bring back some of the nicer datacenter servers in the 2xx. range ... The speed improves a lot if I restrict the region, but not many think to do that ... (To get that ip address field just right click one of the column titles) I'm not really sure what can be done about this Encourage clients to set the region filter somehow? -though I understand the region settings aren't quite fine-grained enough for some parts of the world. Apply favortism to known datacenter-owned subnets? -good for datacenters .. Randomize it? -I guess that's somewhat fair ... Hmm Ian mu wrote: when you do a refresh, right click on a server and view server info and check the IP address. Mine are all 81.x.x.x and 82.x.x.x, my IP is 81.x.x.x. They look as though they are in order of latency, but thats not the whole picture. It's a fairly well known issue, and some ISPs have even been changing their ip:ports where possible to get further up the list for more people. Absolutely crazy design that whoever designed should be shot for. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. On 7/27/05, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic is incorrect. According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will show first. Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with 6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly 2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont get listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe.
It's not that simple. It's not just that the list is sorted by location/proximity to player, it is that the servers that get pinged first are the ones closest to the player. IOW, before the server list is pinged and displayed, it is sorted by proximity to player and pinged in that order. They do it this way so that as the list gets populated, it fills up with servers that ping good. This is a very good idea. Another reason to do it this way is because the Steam server browser still has issues showing all of the servers that are out there. How may times have we looked as Kali, ASE, GS, etc. and found more servers then the Steam browser shows? If you ping close servers first, then when your pinging/populating routine barfs, the player has a bunch of good pinging servers to choose from. That is a good idea. Where Valve went wrong (very badly wrong) was when they decided to make the default sorting of the populated list the same. That was a real stupid idea. The list should sort by default either by ping, or by however the player left it sorted the last time they used the list. Players don't give a rat's arse where the server is, they want good pinging servers, and just because the server is close to them does not mean it pings good. Not only will sort by ping make most players happy, Valve will no longer have to listen to all of our whining and belly aching the we keep flooding this list with about their idiotic server sorting method. - Original Message - From: Andrew Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from eupe. Have the list sort by ping by default. Not servername, otherwise the idiots with 200 spaces in front of their servername get seen at the top. Not randomized, because I dont want to see a random list, I go straight to filter by ping - Just do it that way! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] wow... why not buy DoD source for me. Im a newb too :) On 7/27/05, Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the CC information or card was bad or charges refused this might happen, contact Steam support and submit a ticket: http://steampowered.custhelp.com/ - Original Message - From: Ashley Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts I setup and ran a VAC secured server last night and purchased 7 new steam CS Source Accounts for 7 newbies that were going to join us for a LAN frag. 11 players were on the server and all was fine until everybody tried to sign into their steam accounts the following morning. Every player who had participated in the frag had had their steam account disabled. Nobody cheated, no accounts were hijacked, all the accounts were legit. Has this happened to any one else and if so why? Ashley Legg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Sincerely, Ian -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts
Would it possibly be because you didn't have a lan cafe license that valve do? Know nothing really about it just can remember reading about it and wondered if they have some checks for x amount of accounts from the same place. On 7/27/05, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] wow... why not buy DoD source for me. Im a newb too :) On 7/27/05, Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the CC information or card was bad or charges refused this might happen, contact Steam support and submit a ticket: http://steampowered.custhelp.com/ - Original Message - From: Ashley Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts I setup and ran a VAC secured server last night and purchased 7 new steam CS Source Accounts for 7 newbies that were going to join us for a LAN frag. 11 players were on the server and all was fine until everybody tried to sign into their steam accounts the following morning. Every player who had participated in the frag had had their steam account disabled. Nobody cheated, no accounts were hijacked, all the accounts were legit. Has this happened to any one else and if so why? Ashley Legg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Sincerely, Ian -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts
No, since the point of it is to cost less rather than more when you buy each account individually. - Original Message - From: Ian mu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts Would it possibly be because you didn't have a lan cafe license that valve do? Know nothing really about it just can remember reading about it and wondered if they have some checks for x amount of accounts from the same place. On 7/27/05, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] wow... why not buy DoD source for me. Im a newb too :) On 7/27/05, Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the CC information or card was bad or charges refused this might happen, contact Steam support and submit a ticket: http://steampowered.custhelp.com/ - Original Message - From: Ashley Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts I setup and ran a VAC secured server last night and purchased 7 new steam CS Source Accounts for 7 newbies that were going to join us for a LAN frag. 11 players were on the server and all was fine until everybody tried to sign into their steam accounts the following morning. Every player who had participated in the frag had had their steam account disabled. Nobody cheated, no accounts were hijacked, all the accounts were legit. Has this happened to any one else and if so why? Ashley Legg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Sincerely, Ian -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] HLTV Logaddress
I'm trying to figure out a way to save HLTV logs in a more real-time fashion than halting the logs or the map changing on the server. Is there some type of logaddress function for HLTV, or a workaround to achieve this? -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] just to throw in my 0.02 but could it be because of the lan party agreement they just brought out. http://www.steampowered.com/?area=tourney_limited could it be that valve have seen the LANFrag as a tourney and taken action accordingly? --- Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Vadim Kotlyar wrote: No, since the point of it is to cost less rather than more when you buy each account individually. - Original Message - From: Ian mu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts Would it possibly be because you didn't have a lan cafe license that valve do? Know nothing really about it just can remember reading about it and wondered if they have some checks for x amount of accounts from the same place. On 7/27/05, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] wow... why not buy DoD source for me. Im a newb too :) On 7/27/05, Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the CC information or card was bad or charges refused this might happen, contact Steam support and submit a ticket: http://steampowered.custhelp.com/ - Original Message - From: Ashley Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [hlds] Disabled Steam accounts I setup and ran a VAC secured server last night and purchased 7 new steam CS Source Accounts for 7 newbies that were going to join us for a LAN frag. 11 players were on the server and all was fine until everybody tried to sign into their steam accounts the following morning. Every player who had participated in the frag had had their steam account disabled. Nobody cheated, no accounts were hijacked, all the accounts were legit. Has this happened to any one else and if so why? Ashley Legg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Sincerely, Ian -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] stupid question
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I’m looking into the console of my recently created dedicated server Is this console right? couldn't exec listip.cfg couldn't exec banned.cfg No auth servers parsed Disabling Valve Authentication. Adding master server 207.173.177.11:27010 Adding master server 69.28.151.178:27010 Connection to Steam servers successful. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] stupid question
Michael E. Bergeron wrote: I’m looking into the console of my recently created dedicated server Is this console right? couldn't exec listip.cfg couldn't exec banned.cfg Until you ban someone those files don't exist. This is normal. No auth servers parsed Disabling Valve Authentication. Relic of the WON system I believe and can be ignored. Adding master server 207.173.177.11:27010 Adding master server 69.28.151.178:27010 Connection to Steam servers successful. All this is normal behavior, though it would be not to see a bunch of extra junk in the console. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] stupid question
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] You can easily create those files to stop that error from coming up without waiting to ban someone. Just open notepad name it as listip.cfg banned.cfg save them in the hl1 mod folder. From: m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] stupid question Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:32:47 -0700 Michael E. Bergeron wrote: Im looking into the console of my recently created dedicated server Is this console right? couldn't exec listip.cfg couldn't exec banned.cfg Until you ban someone those files don't exist. This is normal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] stupid question
Man, my grammar and spelling is just going to crap these days. I should have responded like this: THIS IS NORMAL!!1!1! OMG LOL IT M3ANS U DONT HAEV A LISTIPCFG1!11!1 WTF LOL OR BANEDCFG1 OMG WTF LOL B/C U HAEV NOT YAT BANED ANY ST3M IDS OR IP ADRASES11!! WTF TEH AUTH SARVERS AND DISABLNG VALVE AUTH IS NORMAL11!1 LOL AL IS W3L GAME ON DUDE 111! LOL - Original Message - From: OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] stupid question This is normal. It means you don't have a listip.cfg or banned.cfg because you have not yet banned any steam IDs or IP addresses. The suth servers and disableing valve auth is normal. All is well, game on dude! I’m looking into the console of my recently created dedicated server Is this console right? couldn't exec listip.cfg couldn't exec banned.cfg No auth servers parsed Disabling Valve Authentication. Adding master server 207.173.177.11:27010 Adding master server 69.28.151.178:27010 Connection to Steam servers successful. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] stupid question
:--) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OoksServer Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:34 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] stupid question Man, my grammar and spelling is just going to crap these days. I should have responded like this: THIS IS NORMAL!!1!1! OMG LOL IT M3ANS U DONT HAEV A LISTIPCFG1!11!1 WTF LOL OR BANEDCFG1 OMG WTF LOL B/C U HAEV NOT YAT BANED ANY ST3M IDS OR IP ADRASES11!! WTF TEH AUTH SARVERS AND DISABLNG VALVE AUTH IS NORMAL11!1 LOL AL IS W3L GAME ON DUDE 111! LOL ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] stupid question
Very funny reply thanks for your help -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:47 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] stupid question :--) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OoksServer Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:34 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] stupid question Man, my grammar and spelling is just going to crap these days. I should have responded like this: THIS IS NORMAL!!1!1! OMG LOL IT M3ANS U DONT HAEV A LISTIPCFG1!11!1 WTF LOL OR BANEDCFG1 OMG WTF LOL B/C U HAEV NOT YAT BANED ANY ST3M IDS OR IP ADRASES11!! WTF TEH AUTH SARVERS AND DISABLNG VALVE AUTH IS NORMAL11!1 LOL AL IS W3L GAME ON DUDE 111! LOL ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] stupid question
Don't take it personally - I already gave you a plain English answer, my AOL mentality comments were directed at myself for my poor grammar and spelling. Very funny reply thanks for your help :--) Man, my grammar and spelling is just going to crap these days. I should have responded like this: THIS IS NORMAL!!1!1! OMG LOL IT M3ANS U DONT HAEV A LISTIPCFG1!11!1 WTF LOL OR BANEDCFG1 OMG WTF LOL B/C U HAEV NOT YAT BANED ANY ST3M IDS OR IP ADRASES11!! WTF TEH AUTH SARVERS AND DISABLNG VALVE AUTH IS NORMAL11!1 LOL AL IS W3L GAME ON DUDE 111! LOL ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
