Re: [hlds] Question for Map Makers
mole is promoting ETF2L becaause he is admin (hi Mole) 2009/6/17 Matt 'mole' Ashton m...@dcsb.co.uk American or European? Etf2l.org have been doing work with map makers in competitions in both playing, and development of said maps as well as pugs and such to help developers. Might be worth posting there. -Matt (yes, its just a coincidence I'm not taking the piss :P) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of CLAN RCR Sent: 16 June 2009 06:13 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Question for Map Makers So, I'm going to avoid turning this into an advertising message and dispense with the details.. But I wanted to ask a quick question. Basically, I have an extra 32 slot server that is doing jack right now, and I was thinking about maybe turning it into a dedicated map development server. It's primary purpose would be for map makers to have a mainstream pub server to test their maps on and such. It would be donation-based and geared towards helping map makers debug, and at the same time grow the overall popularity on their map. Maybe even have a few lulz? I was just wondering about what you fellow admins thought about the validity of such an endeavor, or maybe if you knew anyone that would be willing to take advantage of such a resource. Anyway, like I said this isn't meant to be an advertisement of any type but I would appreciate some feedback regarding such an idea, or maybe just pass my address along to anyone you think might be interested. As always, thanks for your feedback. -Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads
Can you use the same method used in Left 4 Dead's Survival mode where they blocked off large portions of the maps? Valve used .LMP files to achieve this. Does that work in TF2(S2K7)I'm sure someone with more mapping experience can go further into detail on this than I can, but basically you're loading the same map, but with the .LMP on top of it adding those elements. I'm not exactly sure how it's achieved, but someone here does and can probably be more articulate on the matter. LOL, my terminology. -Richard Eid On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Craig H robolea...@gmail.com wrote: It would just be best to add a tag to the end of the map name. say, CTF_2Fort_MyMap. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Brent Veal naslund.fan...@gmail.com wrote: Clients will be kicked/not able to join at all unless they download the version of the map being used on the server On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe if you make a change to a server and keep the name the same, the clients with the non-updated version will get an error and will not allow them to enter the server. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:44:26 -0700 From: ch...@pingdemons.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads Question, With the new SDK update if i make a change to lets say ctf_2fort and the server is running that map does that mean the client would have to re-download the full map again? or just the new content. Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads
Here it is: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Patching_levels_with_lump_files Support on that goes back to EP1, so if your changes can be done with lump files, you might consider that. I guess the problem with that is if someone else decides to use the same method on the same map, the naming convention used will end up being a problem. On the other hand, if it works like .BSP files in that if one already exists with the same name, the client will get an error about mismatched files, then as long as you get your .LMP to the client before anyone else you have nothing to worry about. :) -Richard Eid On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Richard Eid richard@gmail.com wrote: Can you use the same method used in Left 4 Dead's Survival mode where they blocked off large portions of the maps? Valve used .LMP files to achieve this. Does that work in TF2(S2K7)I'm sure someone with more mapping experience can go further into detail on this than I can, but basically you're loading the same map, but with the .LMP on top of it adding those elements. I'm not exactly sure how it's achieved, but someone here does and can probably be more articulate on the matter. LOL, my terminology. -Richard Eid On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Craig H robolea...@gmail.com wrote: It would just be best to add a tag to the end of the map name. say, CTF_2Fort_MyMap. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Brent Veal naslund.fan...@gmail.com wrote: Clients will be kicked/not able to join at all unless they download the version of the map being used on the server On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe if you make a change to a server and keep the name the same, the clients with the non-updated version will get an error and will not allow them to enter the server. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:44:26 -0700 From: ch...@pingdemons.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads Question, With the new SDK update if i make a change to lets say ctf_2fort and the server is running that map does that mean the client would have to re-download the full map again? or just the new content. Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads
As long as you only change entities in the map, there will be no problems and players won't have to re-download the map. If there are any brush changes, then people will get errors and be kicked. Richard Eid wrote: Here it is: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Patching_levels_with_lump_files Support on that goes back to EP1, so if your changes can be done with lump files, you might consider that. I guess the problem with that is if someone else decides to use the same method on the same map, the naming convention used will end up being a problem. On the other hand, if it works like .BSP files in that if one already exists with the same name, the client will get an error about mismatched files, then as long as you get your .LMP to the client before anyone else you have nothing to worry about. :) -Richard Eid On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Richard Eid richard@gmail.com wrote: Can you use the same method used in Left 4 Dead's Survival mode where they blocked off large portions of the maps? Valve used .LMP files to achieve this. Does that work in TF2(S2K7)I'm sure someone with more mapping experience can go further into detail on this than I can, but basically you're loading the same map, but with the .LMP on top of it adding those elements. I'm not exactly sure how it's achieved, but someone here does and can probably be more articulate on the matter. LOL, my terminology. -Richard Eid On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Craig H robolea...@gmail.com wrote: It would just be best to add a tag to the end of the map name. say, CTF_2Fort_MyMap. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Brent Veal naslund.fan...@gmail.com wrote: Clients will be kicked/not able to join at all unless they download the version of the map being used on the server On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe if you make a change to a server and keep the name the same, the clients with the non-updated version will get an error and will not allow them to enter the server. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:44:26 -0700 From: ch...@pingdemons.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads Question, With the new SDK update if i make a change to lets say ctf_2fort and the server is running that map does that mean the client would have to re-download the full map again? or just the new content. Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads
That is why we have Stripper! :D On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:52 AM, bl4nk bl4n...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you only change entities in the map, there will be no problems and players won't have to re-download the map. If there are any brush changes, then people will get errors and be kicked. Richard Eid wrote: Here it is: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Patching_levels_with_lump_files Support on that goes back to EP1, so if your changes can be done with lump files, you might consider that. I guess the problem with that is if someone else decides to use the same method on the same map, the naming convention used will end up being a problem. On the other hand, if it works like .BSP files in that if one already exists with the same name, the client will get an error about mismatched files, then as long as you get your .LMP to the client before anyone else you have nothing to worry about. :) -Richard Eid On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Richard Eid richard@gmail.com wrote: Can you use the same method used in Left 4 Dead's Survival mode where they blocked off large portions of the maps? Valve used .LMP files to achieve this. Does that work in TF2(S2K7)I'm sure someone with more mapping experience can go further into detail on this than I can, but basically you're loading the same map, but with the .LMP on top of it adding those elements. I'm not exactly sure how it's achieved, but someone here does and can probably be more articulate on the matter. LOL, my terminology. -Richard Eid On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Craig H robolea...@gmail.com wrote: It would just be best to add a tag to the end of the map name. say, CTF_2Fort_MyMap. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Brent Veal naslund.fan...@gmail.com wrote: Clients will be kicked/not able to join at all unless they download the version of the map being used on the server On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe if you make a change to a server and keep the name the same, the clients with the non-updated version will get an error and will not allow them to enter the server. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:44:26 -0700 From: ch...@pingdemons.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] SDK update and server downloads Question, With the new SDK update if i make a change to lets say ctf_2fort and the server is running that map does that mean the client would have to re-download the full map again? or just the new content. Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Beta
We have a beta update available for Counter-Strike 1.6, to get this beta run the hldsupdatetool with -beta cs0616 on the command line. This beta include just a few tweaks since the last release, including: - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override of ticrate CS 1.6 - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Beta
Hey Alfred, Is this like the Half-Life 1 Engine beta hlds0319 update? Meaning, it was a published as a beta Half-Life 1 Engine update though released as a CS 1.6 update after several weeks? The reason I ask is we run a few TFC servers still and the hlds0319 tested fine for us though we missed out on the release because it was title a CS 1.6 release, lol. Anyways... figured I'd ask. Should we run the update cs0616 being it would more then likely impact the Win32 Server Engine again? Thx From: Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:21:08 PM Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Beta We have a beta update available for Counter-Strike 1.6, to get this beta run the hldsupdatetool with -beta cs0616 on the command line. This beta include just a few tweaks since the last release, including: - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override of ticrate CS 1.6 - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Beta
Yes, some of the updates do apply to all HL1 servers (on both win32 and linux) so please do try it out. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds- boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Beta Hey Alfred, Is this like the Half-Life 1 Engine beta hlds0319 update? Meaning, it was a published as a beta Half-Life 1 Engine update though released as a CS 1.6 update after several weeks? The reason I ask is we run a few TFC servers still and the hlds0319 tested fine for us though we missed out on the release because it was title a CS 1.6 release, lol. Anyways... figured I'd ask. Should we run the update cs0616 being it would more then likely impact the Win32 Server Engine again? Thx From: Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:21:08 PM Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Beta We have a beta update available for Counter-Strike 1.6, to get this beta run the hldsupdatetool with -beta cs0616 on the command line. This beta include just a few tweaks since the last release, including: - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override of ticrate CS 1.6 - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Americas Army 3 dedicated server not listed on hlds tool
Seems the dedicated server isn't listed as an option under the hlds tool as yet. It available under tools on the main steam client. Does anyone know the name of the game to use with the dedicated server tool? Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Americas Army 3 dedicated server not listed on hlds tool
I checked this morning and I don't remember seeing it. When did that become available under tools? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Steven Hartlandkill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote: Seems the dedicated server isn't listed as an option under the hlds tool as yet. It available under tools on the main steam client. Does anyone know the name of the game to use with the dedicated server tool? Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Americas Army 3 dedicated server not listed on hlds tool
Steven Hartland wrote: Seems the dedicated server isn't listed as an option under the hlds tool as yet. It available under tools on the main steam client. Does anyone know the name of the game to use with the dedicated server tool? With 2.x linux server usually lagged behind windows version, I guess its going to be the same with 3.x if they'll even release linux version :D ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Americas Army 3 dedicated server not listed on hlds tool
That will likely be the case but talking about the windows server here not the linux one. - Original Message - From: Adam Nowacki no...@xpam.de With 2.x linux server usually lagged behind windows version, I guess its going to be the same with 3.x if they'll even release linux version :D This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
