[hlds] Server bans
Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using a plugin? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server bans
I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective. They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others' bans, all while protecting against fraud. This would require an enormous ongoing effort. The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning legitimate players he doesn't like? How do you stop this? -Ken On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote: Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using a plugin? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server bans
I think he wants a sourceban like feature where a player can be banned from all servers he has and blocked too so he doesn't have to go to each server and add the ban manually. Only problem is linking the servers he has somehow to eachothers. This can be a troublesome and not so worth of effort. Not so easy to do either. -ics Ken Bateman kirjoitti: I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective. They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others' bans, all while protecting against fraud. This would require an enormous ongoing effort. The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning legitimate players he doesn't like? How do you stop this? -Ken On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com mailto:mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote: Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using a plugin? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server bans
How is it an issue if someone bans someone they don't like? And why would they be a troll if they ban someone they don't like? On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Ken Bateman novadeni...@gmail.com wrote: I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective. They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others' bans, all while protecting against fraud. This would require an enormous ongoing effort. The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning legitimate players he doesn't like? How do you stop this? -Ken On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote: Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using a plugin? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server bans
I don't think he means a global ban that would ban that person on every server. He just wants something like a database that means that if he bans someone on one of his servers it also bans them on the rest of his servers. On 25 February 2013 18:52, Ken Bateman novadeni...@gmail.com wrote: I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective. They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others' bans, all while protecting against fraud. This would require an enormous ongoing effort. The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning legitimate players he doesn't like? How do you stop this? -Ken On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote: Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using a plugin? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- -Chris ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server bans
He's talking about something similar to sourcebans so you can ban a client from all your servers. Not from all servers. Valve could add a server cvar similarly to the mapcyclefile one where we can specify a path for our ban lists outside of the main mod folder. On Feb 25, 2013 1:52 PM, Ken Bateman novadeni...@gmail.com wrote: I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective. They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others' bans, all while protecting against fraud. This would require an enormous ongoing effort. The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning legitimate players he doesn't like? How do you stop this? -Ken On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote: Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using a plugin? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server bans
If all of your servers run on the same box, you can perhaps symlink
banned_user.cfg.
Dr. McKay
On Monday, February 25, 2013, big john wrote:
He's talking about something similar to sourcebans so you can ban a client
from all your servers. Not from all servers. Valve could add a server cvar
similarly to the mapcyclefile one where we can specify a path for our ban
lists outside of the main mod folder.
On Feb 25, 2013 1:52 PM, Ken Bateman
novadeni...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'novadeni...@gmail.com');
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I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective.
They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others'
bans, all while protecting against fraud. This would require an enormous
ongoing effort.
The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning
legitimate players he doesn't like? How do you stop this?
-Ken
On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.comjavascript:_e({},
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Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using
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Re: [hlds] Server bans
This would probably be too big of a hassle for Valve to implement into the Source engine, but you can always make a feature request on Valve's Github. If you run all your servers from the same box and the same srcds installation tree just end your server.cfg (or any other cfg file that gets executed during each map change) with the following cvars: writeip // write banned ip's to banned_ip.cfg writeid // write banned steam id's to banned_user.cfg exec banned_ip.cfg exec banned_user.cfg That way at every mapchange your server will write it's new bans to disk and then re-read the files to be up-to-date. If you're running on multiple Linux boxes you can probably sync those files regularly (every hour?) with rsync using cron. There probably are even smarter tools that can permanently check if the files have changed. On Windows... I don't know if and how it would work, but dropbox and junctions come to mind. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Doctor McKay mc...@doctormckay.com wrote: If all of your servers run on the same box, you can perhaps symlink banned_user.cfg. Dr. McKay On Monday, February 25, 2013, big john wrote: He's talking about something similar to sourcebans so you can ban a client from all your servers. Not from all servers. Valve could add a server cvar similarly to the mapcyclefile one where we can specify a path for our ban lists outside of the main mod folder. On Feb 25, 2013 1:52 PM, Ken Bateman novadeni...@gmail.com wrote: I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective. They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others' bans, all while protecting against fraud. This would require an enormous ongoing effort. The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning legitimate players he doesn't like? How do you stop this? -Ken On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote: Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using a plugin? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Sent from Gmail Mobile ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. - Floyd Dell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server bans
OHOH Wrong direction! First execute the files to get the perm bans into the memory. After this you can write bans. In an unhappy situation (all servers are restarting at the same time) your bans get deleted. I think the solution with a symlinked banned_*.cfg is not the best to share it with all other servers. I don't know the exactly possible size, but there is a limit. Sourcebans has a workaround for this to save memory and resources. I a player enters the server, sourcebans is searching with a mysql statement in his database. If the plugin find a match, the player will be kicked and banned for 5 minutes. This saves the banned_user.cfg 2013/2/25 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com: writeip // write banned ip's to banned_ip.cfg writeid // write banned steam id's to banned_user.cfg exec banned_ip.cfg exec banned_user.cfg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
