[hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread Greg Williams
Many people in our community are so frustrated with the TF2 unlockables that 
they talked me into asking. 

Anyone know if there is a way to have TF2 they way it was released. No 
unlockables. The game was damn near perfect, but with the balance issues of the 
unlockable releases, TF2 has not been the same. 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread Alec Sanger

there are plugins for sm that can restrict weapons... if you just want to do 
that, it's a pretty easy solution

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 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:16:20 -0700
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 Subject: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.
 
 Many people in our community are so frustrated with the TF2 unlockables that 
 they talked me into asking. 
 
 Anyone know if there is a way to have TF2 they way it was released. No 
 unlockables. The game was damn near perfect, but with the balance issues of 
 the unlockable releases, TF2 has not been the same. 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread AnAkIn .
It's possible to do that with plugins. I've seen one that would disable
sandman.

2009/4/21 Greg Williams greg_wi...@yahoo.com

 Many people in our community are so frustrated with the TF2 unlockables
 that they talked me into asking.

 Anyone know if there is a way to have TF2 they way it was released. No
 unlockables. The game was damn near perfect, but with the balance issues of
 the unlockable releases, TF2 has not been the same.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread Joel R.
The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the Scout's Bonk,
but even that leveled out.

Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the possibilities.
Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so your SOL.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread Nightbox
The most unblanced weapon is Sandman, not BOnk

2009/4/21 Joel R. joelru...@gmail.com

 The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the Scout's Bonk,
 but even that leveled out.

 Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the possibilities.
 Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so your SOL.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread Joel R.
I meant the baseball and bat weapon, yes.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.comwrote:

 The most unblanced weapon is Sandman, not BOnk

 2009/4/21 Joel R. joelru...@gmail.com

  The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the Scout's
 Bonk,
  but even that leveled out.
 
  Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the
 possibilities.
  Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so your
 SOL.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread msleeper
In before 90 reply thread on which unlock is the most unfair.


On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 15:01 -0500, Joel R. wrote:
 I meant the baseball and bat weapon, yes.
 
 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  The most unblanced weapon is Sandman, not BOnk
 
  2009/4/21 Joel R. joelru...@gmail.com
 
   The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the Scout's
  Bonk,
   but even that leveled out.
  
   Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the
  possibilities.
   Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so your
  SOL.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread AnAkIn .
If they do a level thing (all weapons have level) and add more weapons, it
may be normal that the sandman is OP, since sandman is level 15.

2009/4/21 msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com

 In before 90 reply thread on which unlock is the most unfair.


 On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 15:01 -0500, Joel R. wrote:
  I meant the baseball and bat weapon, yes.
 
  On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   The most unblanced weapon is Sandman, not BOnk
  
   2009/4/21 Joel R. joelru...@gmail.com
  
The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the Scout's
   Bonk,
but even that leveled out.
   
Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the
   possibilities.
Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so your
   SOL.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread CLAN RCR
Well.. To my knowledge there is currently no way to restrict most of the
special weapons due to their names being the same as the default weapon
(case in point, the bone/uber saw. statistically, they're named the same so
if you restrict one using a weapon restrict plugin, you loose both. The same
goes for the Scout bat/sandman.

Of course, correct me if I'm wrong.. But I've recently been looking into
restricting certain buildables, and ran into a similar situation.

-Matt

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:45 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote:

 If they do a level thing (all weapons have level) and add more weapons, it
 may be normal that the sandman is OP, since sandman is level 15.

 2009/4/21 msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com

  In before 90 reply thread on which unlock is the most unfair.
 
 
  On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 15:01 -0500, Joel R. wrote:
   I meant the baseball and bat weapon, yes.
  
   On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
The most unblanced weapon is Sandman, not BOnk
   
2009/4/21 Joel R. joelru...@gmail.com
   
 The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the
 Scout's
Bonk,
 but even that leveled out.

 Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the
possibilities.
 Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so
 your
SOL.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread Cc2iscooL
To be honest I've found the regular bat much more useful since the 50%
damage reduction. Rather take the double jump. :\

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.comwrote:

 The most unblanced weapon is Sandman, not BOnk

 2009/4/21 Joel R. joelru...@gmail.com

  The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the Scout's
 Bonk,
  but even that leveled out.
 
  Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the
 possibilities.
  Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so your
 SOL.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Non-Unlockable Mode.

2009-04-21 Thread Matthew Gottlieb
They use it for openings in PL maps as defense.  A few scouts can stun
enough of the enemy team to push in and wipe them out before they pull
off a starting push.  This give the offense more time to prepare and
push in.

Limiting scouts to 2 can fix this (for the most part).

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote:
 To be honest I've found the regular bat much more useful since the 50%
 damage reduction. Rather take the double jump. :\

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.comwrote:

 The most unblanced weapon is Sandman, not BOnk

 2009/4/21 Joel R. joelru...@gmail.com

  The only unlockable that has imbalance problems would be the Scout's
 Bonk,
  but even that leveled out.
 
  Your best bet is probably a plugin, but I'm unsure about the
 possibilities.
  Valve, is expecting to add more than 2 weapons per character, so your
 SOL.
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