Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
I didn't use a shortcut, I simply ran cmd.exe, AKA Windows Command Processor. AFAIK, it's always been this way back from the start. Is there anyone at Valve that remembers why it was done this way? I'm guessing it has to do with the way it updates the status at the first line of the window, and scrolls the output up the windows. shrug you'll notice the shortcut you use to get that command prompt is called command prompt ;) And yeah, it does open in a brand new window of its own for whatever reason. Kind of strange, I see no reason to open a new console when it's already running in one. Oh well. That's valve for you. OK, boys and girls, once and for all. drum roll. If you start hlds.exe from a Command Shell under Win9x, WinXP, or Win2000, it will open it's own console and run in that. The command shell you start it from does this: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. P:\hlds -console P:\ You are back at the ...um...so, can I call this a DOS prompt? Or is it more correctly the command shell prompt? Whatever you want to call it, you are there and hlds is running in it's own console/shell. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
I don't see any technical reasons for doing so, but they must have a reason. Controlling what gets drawn/printed at which location in the window is entirely under your control regardless of whether or not you spawn a new window. Who knows why they've done it this way, but maybe someone there will tell us. shrug On 7/2/05, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't use a shortcut, I simply ran cmd.exe, AKA Windows Command Processor. AFAIK, it's always been this way back from the start. Is there anyone at Valve that remembers why it was done this way? I'm guessing it has to do with the way it updates the status at the first line of the window, and scrolls the output up the windows. shrug -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window, one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits the window will still be open and you can see what happened. On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly! Also yes no other mods are running! Thanks Dan -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
This has been done this command prompt closes!!! -Original Message- From: Clayton Macleod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2005 07:19 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window, one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits the window will still be open and you can see what happened. On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly! Also yes no other mods are running! Thanks Dan -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
well, you could always try redirecting output to a file, though I don't know if it'll help or work properly. Add a error.txt to the end of your command to attempt that. Should give you a new file called error.txt that hopefully contains something useful. On 7/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been done this command prompt closes!!! -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console window if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does not run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it should work. - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window, one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits the window will still be open and you can see what happened. On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly! Also yes no other mods are running! Thanks Dan -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
is this offsite or onsite? cause I know I have a offsite server and my host had me put in a command code to my remote connection so I could see the console applications running in the background could be your problem - Original Message - From: OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console window if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does not run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it should work. - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error you misunderstand. He said to manually open a command prompt window, one that you can type any commands you wish, and it stays open after those commands are executed. Doing this so that after the server exits the window will still be open and you can see what happened. On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly! Also yes no other mods are running! Thanks Dan -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
I haven't tried it with hlds, but this would be the first win32 console app I've seen that would open up its own console window when you're already running in one. And 'command prompt' in win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console. On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console window if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does not run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it should work. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
Clayton Macleod wrote: And 'command prompt' in win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console. Are you always this abrasive? It's a shell. I'm sure you'll have some argument saying MS's definition of their own product is wrong. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds_shelloverview.mspx I can't understand why I let myself reply to this. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console, and I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone here will try it and report their findings fairly soon. - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error I haven't tried it with hlds, but this would be the first win32 console app I've seen that would open up its own console window when you're already running in one. And 'command prompt' in win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console. On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console window if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does not run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it should work. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
Clayton Macleod wrote: And 'command prompt' in win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console. Are you always this abrasive? It's a shell. I'm sure you'll have some argument saying MS's definition of their own product is wrong. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds_shelloverview.mspx I can't understand why I let myself reply to this. -- I must be getting soft in my old age, because I bit my tongue and ignored him instead of flaming back with my usual sarcastic comments. Technically, I should call it a Command Shell, not a DOS Shell, but for all practical purposes there is little if any difference. It's a shell, I run DOS stuff in it. Works for me, but offends the purists shrug... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
under win9x is pointless, since that *is* a DOS shell and not a win32 console. On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console, and I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone here will try it and report their findings fairly soon. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
Yup, just for you, cuz you like it rough. And the point is it is not a *DOS* shell, and there is no reason for a win32 console app to open a new console when it's already running in one. There is a big difference between a DOS shell in win9x and a command prompt/console in win2000-onward. On 7/1/05, m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you always this abrasive? It's a shell. I'm sure you'll have some argument saying MS's definition of their own product is wrong. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds_shelloverview.mspx I can't understand why I let myself reply to this. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
It gives you command line access to the shell, it is not a shell in itself :P On 9x it IS a shell in its own right. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: 01 July 2005 22:23 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error under win9x is pointless, since that *is* a DOS shell and not a win32 console. On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console, and I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone here will try it and report their findings fairly soon. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
OK, boys and girls, once and for all. drum roll. If you start hlds.exe from a Command Shell under Win9x, WinXP, or Win2000, it will open it's own console and run in that. The command shell you start it from does this: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. P:\hlds -console P:\ You are back at the ...um...so, can I call this a DOS prompt? Or is it more correctly the command shell prompt? Whatever you want to call it, you are there and hlds is running in it's own console/shell. - Original Message - From: OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error Try it and see what happens, then let us know what you found. I'll do it myself tonight. Under Win9x, it most definitely opens it's own console, and I'm fairly certain it does so under Win2000+ as well. I'm sure someone here will try it and report their findings fairly soon. - Original Message - From: Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error I haven't tried it with hlds, but this would be the first win32 console app I've seen that would open up its own console window when you're already running in one. And 'command prompt' in win2000/winxp/win2003server is NOT a DOS shell. It is a win32 console. On 7/1/05, OoksServer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, this doesn't work because hlds still opens up it's own console window if run from a command/cmd window. Hlds is not a DOS application and does not run in a DOS shell. It is a win32 console application. Unlike bsp/rad/vis/etc, it opens up it's own console and runs in that. The only thing I've been able to do that helps is to quickly press Print Screen immediately before the console window closes. The timing is tricky but it should work. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
you'll notice the shortcut you use to get that command prompt is called command prompt ;) And yeah, it does open in a brand new window of its own for whatever reason. Kind of strange, I see no reason to open a new console when it's already running in one. Oh well. That's valve for you. On 7/1/05, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, boys and girls, once and for all. drum roll. If you start hlds.exe from a Command Shell under Win9x, WinXP, or Win2000, it will open it's own console and run in that. The command shell you start it from does this: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. P:\hlds -console P:\ You are back at the ...um...so, can I call this a DOS prompt? Or is it more correctly the command shell prompt? Whatever you want to call it, you are there and hlds is running in it's own console/shell. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Windows 2003 Error
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My problem, I have a windows server2003 server. When any of my cs servers set secure 1 the server will not start! The server works fine until it says The server is in secure mode After this the server window simply closes. If secure 0 is set the server works fine! Any help would be great! Thanks Dan Dan Martin Alpha-Networks MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.alpha-networks.co.uk http://www.alpha-networks.co.uk/ Mobile 07736042557 - The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - -- [ image001.gif of type image/gif deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
Run it direct from dos to see what error it dies with, or read the other thread for the logging/developer options which may help. You're not using it with any other mods like cdeath I'm assuming, and its in liblist.gam? On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My problem, I have a windows server2003 server. When any of my cs servers set secure 1 the server will not start! The server works fine until it says The server is in secure mode After this the server window simply closes. If secure 0 is set the server works fine! Any help would be great! Thanks Dan Dan Martin Alpha-Networks MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.alpha-networks.co.uk http://www.alpha-networks.co.uk/ Mobile 07736042557 - The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - -- [ image001.gif of type image/gif deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error
No error is generated it simply closes the window instantly! Also yes no other mods are running! Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: Ian mu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2005 00:15 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2003 Error Run it direct from dos to see what error it dies with, or read the other thread for the logging/developer options which may help. You're not using it with any other mods like cdeath I'm assuming, and its in liblist.gam? On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My problem, I have a windows server2003 server. When any of my cs servers set secure 1 the server will not start! The server works fine until it says The server is in secure mode After this the server window simply closes. If secure 0 is set the server works fine! Any help would be great! Thanks Dan Dan Martin Alpha-Networks MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.alpha-networks.co.uk http://www.alpha-networks.co.uk/ Mobile 07736042557 - The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - -- [ image001.gif of type image/gif deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
