Re: [HOT] TM3 random task selection ignoring priority area

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Thanks for the report Florian.
Indeed. Unlike to what was done in version 2, the random task is not
preferably taken in the priority areas. I will open an issue in Github
and will label it as regression.

Pierre

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Florian Kratochwil
<flor...@kratochwil.at> wrote:
> As I have no idea how to report feedback on GitHub (where the feedback link
> leeds me to). So I am posting it here in hope someone hears it.
>
> When mapping on task #3837 if I click "select random task" for mapping, I
> get tasks outside the priority area, but there are free unlocked, unmapped
> task in the priority area as well. I guess this is a bug?
>
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Re: [HOT] Issue with Tasking Manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I don't think so. If it was the case the tasking manager would answer
with a message telling that the task doesn't exist.
Example:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/5#task/91

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:20 PM, "Michael Heißmeier"
<michae...@digital-filestore.de> wrote:
> Could it be that this task once existed but disappeared because it was
> split?
>
>
> Michael
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 um 12:37 Uhr
> Von: "Nirab Pudasaini" <developer.ni...@gmail.com>
> An: hot <hot@openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: [HOT] Issue with Tasking Manager
> I am not sure if this is a bug or something but one of the task in tasking
> manager cannot be selected. You can check it by clicking this link.
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3406#task/626
>
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Re: [HOT] Issue with Tasking Manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This indeed looks like a bug.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Nirab Pudasaini
<developer.ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not sure if this is a bug or something but one of the task in tasking
> manager cannot be selected. You can check it by clicking this link.
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3406#task/626
>
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Re: [HOT] How to get the name of the creator of a task on the Tasking Manager?

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You are right. The Indonesian instance runs a older version.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Michael Reichert <naka...@gmx.net> wrote:
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> Am 29.07.2017 um 18:14 schrieb Pierre GIRAUD:
>> It's also written at the bottom of the "description" tab.
>
> I am logged in into the *Indonesian* instance and the information is
> missing on the description tab. There is just the green button
> "instructions" which links to the instructions tab.
>
> http://tasks.openstreetmap.id/project/43
>
> Does the Indonesian instance use an older version? Or is it just a bug
> because the description is empty? If it is so, I will have a look at
> the bug tracker on Github.
>
> Best regards
>
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Re: [HOT] How to get the name of the creator of a task on the Tasking Manager?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

It's also written at the bottom of the "description" tab.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Michael Reichert <naka...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Am 29.07.2017 um 18:10 schrieb john whelan:
>> Search for the number in http://tasks.hotosm.org/ the creator is at the
>> bottom.
>
> Thanks you. I just looked at the page of the task itself and did not try
> to search for the number of the task.
>
> Best regards
>
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Re: [HOT] Tasking manager project data

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Pete,

I'm afraid there's nothing built-in currently to do this. Sorry.

Pierre

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Pete Masters <pedrito1...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi all, we are doing a review exercise of MSF-related Missing Maps mapping.
> Is there a way to export the data for Tasking Manager projects. For example,
> all the projects created by a specific username? Or all projects with
> #MissingMaps specified in the changeset comment?
>
> Otherwise, I'm gonna have to it manually, which will be painful.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping request from MSF

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Done

Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 14:21, Pete Masters <pedrito1...@googlemail.com> a
écrit :

> Just to update, we have changed the imagery instructions slightly again as
> often MapBox is as good if not better than Bing.
>
> Instructions now read:
>
> Please switch between both *Bing and MapBox* imagery for this project.
> They are both available and checking both will improve accuracy. *You can
> switch between the two last used images in iD easily by using CTRL-B.*
>
> If someone can update the French...! Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Pete Masters <pedrito1...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Much appreciated ;)
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:10 AM, FOFANA BAZO BAGNOUMANA <
>> fofana.13b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tanks for This Pierre
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 9:03, Pierre GIRAUD <pierre.gir...@gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> French translation updated.
>>>>
>>>> Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 10:53, Pete Masters <pedrito1...@googlemail.com>
>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice, Rafael. I have updated the instructions tab. If anyone
>>>>> can make the changes in French it would help (or just send me the text and
>>>>> I'll edit the project).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your contributions so far!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <
>>>>> ravilac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Pete:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've done 2 tasks [1], and I've seen that Mapbox, apart from being
>>>>>> well aligned with Bing, clarifies lots of buildings that are difficult or
>>>>>> very difficult to spot with dark Bing imagery. So I think adding Mapbox
>>>>>> would be a good idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would also ask mapper to align some of the highways, as otherwise
>>>>>> they intersect with buildings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/32 and
>>>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/33
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/07/16 17:49, Pete Masters wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick request... MSF urgently needs data for teams in Kinshasa
>>>>>>> battling
>>>>>>> the yellow fever outbreak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041 (just buildings on this one)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the first of (probably) a few areas needing mapping. More
>>>>>>> details in the tasking manager project description. Vaccination set
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> start early - mid August. Team has asked if we can have the mapping
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> by the 8th August.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have any questions, please let me know. If you have some time,
>>>>>>> your contribution would be much appreciated, either mapping or
>>>>>>> validating
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> +44 7921 781 518
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> missingmaps.org <http://www.missingmaps.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _@pedrito1414_ <https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps>
>>>>>>> _@theMissingMaps_ <https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps>
>>>>>>> _facebook.com/MissingMapsProject_
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/MissingMapsProject>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping request from MSF

[Pierre GIRAUD]

French translation updated.

Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 10:53, Pete Masters  a
écrit :

> Good advice, Rafael. I have updated the instructions tab. If anyone can
> make the changes in French it would help (or just send me the text and I'll
> edit the project).
>
> Thanks for your contributions so far!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Rafael Avila Coya 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Pete:
>>
>> I've done 2 tasks [1], and I've seen that Mapbox, apart from being well
>> aligned with Bing, clarifies lots of buildings that are difficult or very
>> difficult to spot with dark Bing imagery. So I think adding Mapbox would be
>> a good idea.
>>
>> I would also ask mapper to align some of the highways, as otherwise they
>> intersect with buildings.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rafael.
>>
>> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/32 and
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/33
>>
>> On 27/07/16 17:49, Pete Masters wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Quick request... MSF urgently needs data for teams in Kinshasa battling
>>> the yellow fever outbreak.
>>>
>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041 (just buildings on this one)
>>>
>>> This is the first of (probably) a few areas needing mapping. More
>>> details in the tasking manager project description. Vaccination set to
>>> start early - mid August. Team has asked if we can have the mapping done
>>> by the 8th August.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions, please let me know. If you have some time,
>>> your contribution would be much appreciated, either mapping or
>>> validating
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Pete Masters*
>>> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>>> +44 7921 781 518
>>>
>>> missingmaps.org 
>>>
>>> _@pedrito1414_ 
>>> _@theMissingMaps_ 
>>> _facebook.com/MissingMapsProject_
>>> 
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager not responding !!!

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Issue fixed. You can create projects.

Regards,

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Courtney Clark
<courtneycla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I try to create a new task, I receive an error message. Any ideas?
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Leon van der Meulen
> <leonvandermeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No problems here in safari, firefox nor chrome.
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 09:27, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I’m having the same error now. I was able to use the tasking manager
>> successfully about 3 hours ago however.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ahasanul Hoque <hoque.aha...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear hot mappers,
>>> Is there any maintenance work ongoing for HOT task manager ? Its not
>>> responding since last few hours and giving following responses. Is there
>>> anybody facing the same issue or its something weird happens at my end ?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager not responding !!!

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Courtney,

Confirmed on my side too.
I hope we'll find out what's happening soon.
Do you need to create a project urgently?

Regards

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Courtney Clark
<courtneycla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I try to create a new task, I receive an error message. Any ideas?
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Leon van der Meulen
> <leonvandermeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No problems here in safari, firefox nor chrome.
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 09:27, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I’m having the same error now. I was able to use the tasking manager
>> successfully about 3 hours ago however.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ahasanul Hoque <hoque.aha...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear hot mappers,
>>> Is there any maintenance work ongoing for HOT task manager ? Its not
>>> responding since last few hours and giving following responses. Is there
>>> anybody facing the same issue or its something weird happens at my end ?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> .
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>>> GIS & Data Mgt Specialist
>>> MSc in RS and GIS | AIT, Thailand.
>>> MSc. in Env. Science| KU, Bangladesh.
>>> Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response |
>>> Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand.
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager not responding !!!

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Thanks for the report.
Drazen just restarted the server and it looks OK again.

Regards.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I’m having the same error now. I was able to use the tasking manager
> successfully about 3 hours ago however.
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ahasanul Hoque <hoque.aha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear hot mappers,
>> Is there any maintenance work ongoing for HOT task manager ? Its not
>> responding since last few hours and giving following responses. Is there
>> anybody facing the same issue or its something weird happens at my end ?
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>>
>> .
>> Ahasanul Hoque
>>
>> *GIS & Data Mgt Specialist*MSc in RS and GIS | *AIT, Thailand.*
>> MSc. in Env. Science| *KU, Bangladesh.*
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[HOT] Tasking Manager - Release 2.13.2 deployed

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hello everyone,

The HOT's tasking manager main instance has been updated.

Here are the changelogs:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.0
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.1
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.2

Some users may suddenly discover they have unread messages since the
notification message is now a bit more intrusive. Sorry for them. I
hope this will help new mappers to get feedback from validators
earlier.

Special thanks go to code contributors (especially to Ethan Nelson)
and translators.

Happy mapping folks.

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[HOT] Tasking Manager - Release candidate

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Dear hotties,

A new release (2.13.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed
earlier today **on the dev instance**.

http://tasks.dev.hotosm.org/

Here are the release notes :
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.0

We're looking for people willing to test.

If you encounter issues please report them using github.

Also some languages still have not translated strings.

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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi John,

I agree with you.
Messages sent to users may be invisible or seen too late.

I intend to add an "alert" like message to notify the user as soon as
possible when he/she gets a new message. This way the beginner users
would get notified almost immediately after an invalidation of their
work.

Pierre

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think whilst mass validation can be appropiate sometimes such as in
> Ecuador at the moment I think what we lose from it is immediate feedback to
> an individual mapper which I think means less clean up to do afterwards.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 24 April 2016 at 12:09, Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Nama, just trying to herd :)
>>
>> =Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nama.budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM
>> To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha
>> Shrestha
>>
>>
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Russell,
>>
>>
>>
>> Megha and couple of others from KLL are already in Trello. They will be
>> happy to contribute on validation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung device
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org>
>> Date: 24/04/2016 20:40 (GMT+05:45)
>> To: 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM' <blake.girar...@hotosm.org>, 'John Whelan'
>> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>> Hi Blake and John,
>>
>> I'll add to Humberto, we'll have a few staff in the HOT Indonesia office
>> (tonight/their morning).  We also have a standing offer from KLL to have
>> some staffers focus on validation. These are great ideas, I don't want to
>> lose them, so can we get them onto the Trello? Then once we've identified
>> who, we can assign whats...
>> =Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM [mailto:blake.girar...@hotosm.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:46 AM
>> To: John Whelan
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Given that we are spending a lot of times on roads, getting road
>> networks correct is pretty vital.
>>
>> Has anyone looked at using existing OSM tools, outside of the Tasking
>> Manager to do large scale road network validation?
>>
>> The one that comes to mind is GeoFabrik's OSM Inspector:
>>
>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/
>>
>> Which even has a 'routing' selection in the pop down to focus on
>> problems that affect routing.
>>
>> Are there other tools that would help with this?
>>
>> Could we map roulette getting roads that end near each other connected
>> properly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>> 
>> Blake Girardot
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>> Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
>> skype: jblakegirardot
>> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM, John Whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation.
>> >
>> > Of the validation I have done I've seen crossing ways and highways
>> > almost
>> > meeting on a project that was supposed to be Highways only for
>> > experienced
>> > JOSM users.
>> >
>> > JOSM validation should have highlighted these errors before uploading.
>> >
>> > I won't bother to mention the other problems I've seen but I assume some
>> > thought has been given to the matter?
>> >
>> > Thanks John
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Re: [HOT] JOSM port don't work anymore

[Pierre GIRAUD]

You should be able to use the ".gpx link" just below the "edit with
JOSM" button.
Right click the link to download the GPX file and use it to select the
area to download in JOSM.

I hope this helps.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Cascafico Giovanni
<cascaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For some reason LAN admins blocked JOSM remote control port 8111.
>
> Is there any workaround to load the specific area?
> Ie:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1796#task/237
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Re: [HOT] Can we extend the time a tile is locked please?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

My point of view is that it's a bad idea to increase the default lock
duration. I usually think it's even already too high for mapathons
with beginners.

Here's why:
 - people sometimes don't know nothing about the duration time,
 - when they know, they forget to check if it's finished,
 - it takes too much time to finish a tile. And I agree with Dale when
he says that mappers are more happy when they finish several small
tiles than being bored and lazy to finished one single big tile. It's
even more important at a mapathon with beginners.

However, I agree that the issue initially raised by John on this
thread or Séverin in github [1] is an important problem. It's a shame
that the Tasking Manager doesn't avoid conflict when it's its main
goal. No matter which editor is the mapper's favorite.

Ways we could improve:
 - inform people about the duration at mapathons more clearly,
 - ask people to commit often and refresh iD page if needed,
 - make the duration time more obvious,
 - encourage mappers to avoid taking tiles that were auto unlocked
during the mapathon,
 - encourage mappers to split the tiles to make them smaller and
faster to finish,
 - notify (alert) the user when the duration is finished (the most
important one in my opinion),
 - make the duration time configurable per project,
 - let the user extend the duration. See #770 [1].

[1] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/770

Regards,
Pierre (eager to improve the Tasking Manager usability all the time)

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Severin Menard
<severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quite a recurrent topic for years. I created this ticket two weeks ago, feel
> free to suggest improvements or to support it.
>
> Severin
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:12 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bootable JOSM on a USB stick?  Smaller tiles?
>>
>> I think we have identified a problem area even if we don't yet have an
>> instant solution.
>>
>> Any more suggestions?
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 17 April 2016 at 08:35, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>> I've seen this a lot to and I think it's how iD is used in the mapathon.
>>> When you have lots of mappers ID struggles to redraw the area after a save.
>>> Another problem is that if it's a dense area ID will hide features to reduce
>>> drawing time and increase browser performance.
>>>
>>> In general I think the old 2 hour per tile is way way to long. We try and
>>> make tiles for beginners that are about 30 min worth of work. This increases
>>> the amount of tiles completed and gives folks a better sense of
>>> accomplishment even if it's the same amount of mapping.
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2016 8:26 AM, "Ralf Stephan" <gtrw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have seen this too recently, and I also always thought the time too
>>>> short in general.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When validating I'm seeing buildings double mapped.  I've seen fifty on
>>>>> a tile.  They are both a pain to clean up and a waste of mapper resources.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I think is happening is maperthon mappers going off for lunch or a
>>>>> coffee break and leaving the tile locked.  The time lock expires, someone
>>>>> else grabs the tile but the first mapper continues to map.  Now we have 
>>>>> two
>>>>> mappers mapping at the same time on the same tile.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also seen highways double mapped etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally a six hour time lock would save a lot of this double mapping
>>>>> but there are trade offs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could six hours be made the default but for a particular urgent project
>>>>> the project manager could set a lower value?
>>>>>
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Re: [HOT] no task borders

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Hi Daiva,

What editor are you using? JOSM? iD Editor?
What browser are you using?

Pierre

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> Hello,
>
> I have problem seeing task borders on Tasking manager when I choose the task
> to contribute. At first I thought maybe it is a short bug or something. we
> had a short mapping party, it was only me who had a problem with the "pink"
> border line. I restarted, "relogged", nothing helped. After a day the
> problem still persists. What could be the cause?
>
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.12.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.12.0

Things look to work correctly but there may be issues. Please report
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Messages

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The message telling that the task "doesn't not exist" may mean that
the task has been split into smaller chunks.
In your case, task #6 seems to have been replaced by tasks #475 to #478.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am getting messages through the tasking manager about my work on #1449 and
> #1429.
>
> 1)"The task was invalidated because of missing roads" (the task only calls
> for buildings)
>
> 2) "The task was invalidated because of missing buildings."  It would be
> good to have examples of where I missed buildings.  I suspect that the
> validator is picking up things that are not intact buildings.  When
> invalidating a task could more details be provided? Also when I click on the
> link (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1449#task/6) for the task in question,
> the tasking manager says the task does not exist.
>
> I am an experienced mapper, so this is not going to discourage me from
> contributing, but I can see how this might put off a new mapper.
>
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

So it's all about HTTPS.
Thanks Blake for the catch.
I can reproduce the bug on my computer too.
I opened an issue https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/735

For people who are using Chrome and are currently stuck, you can try
using HTTP. In order to do so, you may have to prevent Chrome from
redirecting automatically to HTTPS.
http://superuser.com/questions/565409/chrome-how-to-stop-redirect-from-http-to-https

Regards,

Pierre

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just did a quick test on ubuntu trusty with firefox and chrome.
>
> It looks like both browsers fail to hand off to josm when using httpS
>
> Chrome did not give an error message, but firefox asks is remote control is
> enabled in josm.
>
> Interestingly the same thing seems to happen on windows 7 too, TM doesn't
> hand off to josm when using https, ff offers the dialog, chrome just fails
> to silently.
>
> Two different versions of josm, both have https support enabled in the
> remote control prefs.
>
> and I also think it used to work fine for me, but I do not remember how long
> ago i tried it.
>
> cheers
> blake
>
> On 1/22/2016 6:16 AM, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
>>
>> I faced the same issue while coordinating a mappathon in last 12-14
>> January in Dhaka. Among 16 mappers only 3 person were able to work with
>> JOSM. We tried all the options,like replicating the same version JOSM
>> and browser of those 3 persons for the rest, changing the different JOSM
>> versions but if didnt work. Though the remote control was active but the
>> task wasn't opening after clicking. Finally we gave up and did the
>> editing using iD. Still much eager to know the solution. Please share if
>> you get any.
>>
>> Fyi, we were working on the missingMaps project #1391
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ahasan
>>
>>
>> .
>> Ahasanul Hoque
>> GIS & Env. Data Mgt Specialist
>> MSc in RS and GIS | /AIT, Thailand./
>> MSc. in Env. Science| /KU, Bangladesh./
>> 
>> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
>> /Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand./
>> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT-
>> Belgium.
>> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com <mailto:hoque.aha...@gmail.com>;
>> ahasan...@yahoo.com <mailto:ahasan...@gmail.com>| Web:
>> *ahasanulhoque.com* <http://ahasanulhoque.com/>
>> *Skype: *ahasan4u | *Linkedin: *_http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp _
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>> Please, Consider the Environment before Printing this Mail !!!
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I think I am having the same issue.  If you have JOSM running with
>> remote control enabled, you should be able to click "edit with JOSM"
>> from the tasking manager and the data should be downloaded in JOSM,
>> right?  I am running Windows 7 on the machine in question, but my
>> Linux box exhibits the same issue.  In both cases I am using
>> Chrome.  I think this was working a couple of months ago when I last
>> tried it. Admittedly I have not done a lot of troubleshooting yet,
>>   I wanted to check if my understanding of the intended
>> functionality was correct first.  I am not getting any error messages.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>> <pierre.gir...@gmail.com <mailto:pierre.gir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Claudia,
>>
>> Are you trying to work on a specific project in the tasking
>> manager?
>> Or do you have the same problems with any task in any project?
>>
>> How did you start JOSM?
>> If you are running the "java -jar josm-latest.jar" from the
>> command
>> line, do you see any error in the terminal that can help us
>> determine
>> what's wrong?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Claudia Mocci
>> <mocc...@gmail.com <mailto:mocc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Hello to all of you
>>  > I am Claudia from Italy. I'm having troublesopening all tasks
>> from the
>>  > Tasking Manager both  in Josm and Potlatch . The only editor
>> working is ID .
>> 

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Claudia,

Are you trying to work on a specific project in the tasking manager?
Or do you have the same problems with any task in any project?

How did you start JOSM?
If you are running the "java -jar josm-latest.jar" from the command
line, do you see any error in the terminal that can help us determine
what's wrong?

Regards

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Claudia Mocci <mocc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello to all of you
> I am Claudia from Italy. I'm having troublesopening all tasks from the
> Tasking Manager both  in Josm and Potlatch . The only editor working is ID .
>
> Josm: using ubuntu and firefox browser I 'm able to work on the task, no way
> to work on using google chrome browser. Potlatch isn't working at all. I 've
> asked Severin and Nicolas for some help , no working either clicking on "
> Tip: Download the following .gpx file and load it in JOSM in order to see
> the current task boundary" , coping and pasting the URL link in Josm_file_
> open location. I've got a bug error ( screenshot attached). Using Windows
> even Firefox isn't working at all.
>
> I have to animate a online mapping party this afternoon , using the platform
> "Go to Webinar " wich is not supported by ubuntu if you are organisating
> the training or conference .So I must use windows. Most of the students are
> in Africa or South America with precarious internet connexion. Id is
> impossible to use. Even mine isn't running fast due to the webinar platform.
> So I'm blocked . I've asked some friends to try  opening tasks, we all have
> the same problems.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>
>
>  Claudia Mocci
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>
>
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Re: [HOT] How do I delete messages from task manager?

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I suspect you are talking about the message you received for example
when someone mentioned you in a comment, or when someone invalidated a
task you worked on.
There's currently no way to delete any message.

Can you elaborate why you want to delete messages? Do you have too
much messages?

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Re: [HOT] Preparing new release - Please help us with translations

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Hi all,

We're currently preparing a new release of the Tasking Manager.
Some strings have been added or updated. Please help us fill in the
blanks by translating the untranslated strings.

Go to your language page and use filtering to see only the untranslated files.

For those who translated strings last week, please make sure that all
is translated. There may be some changes.

On behalf of the dev team, thank you very much in advance.

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Re: [HOT] Validation

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 to the African highway wiki bit and suggest 
 highway=unclassified, track or path are the most commonly used values in 
 rural areas.

 Buildings not squared, select buildings=yes the select each mapper in turn if 
 the don't have any huts use q to square them all at once. This is a time 
 management issue if we had more time we should do them one at a time reality 
 does it really matter if the building is square?  We know the rough shape and 
 size and buildings are expensive in mapper time.  Locally talking to one 
 mapper, buildings are OK for the first three hours after that forget them.  
 Another mapper I know refers them as building hell projects.  Some mappers 
 are very good and will map buildings, I tend to be protective of them and 
 very gentle with them as well.  If you have a building project the ones 
 mapped in JOSM building_tool are much easier to validate than the iD ones.

 Scan the tile crtlDown arrow and look for missed settlements, I think my 
 record is twenty on a single tile.

 huts are awkward, OSM says point or circular, HOT prefers circular but 
 experienced mappers will often use points.  You want them to keep HOT 
 mapping, if you criticise them too much they'll go back and map waste paper 
 bins locally.

 Is there some sort of path or unclassified highway to each settlement?  If 
 not can we drop one in.  I map fewer paths, and tracks than I used to, it 
 takes time to map every track and path.

 Try to avoid being condescending when communicating with mappers.   The 
 content is great, but how things are said often leaves the impression we are 
 a bunch of arrogant, condescending jerks. Each mapper is different, you 
 won't have time to read their life history before contacting them, click on 
 their name the OSM profile send message or @username (@[firstname secondname] 
 if they have a space in their name) in the comment.  the @ method works best 
 as it shows the project and tile numbers.  Be polite and if possible use the 
 third person, JOSM validation threw up the following problems on this tile.  
 HOT may not have their email address but you can contact them, the OSM 
 profile will send an email to their email address.

 If they are carefully mapping every building on the project and it isn't 
 required in the instructions I tend to say thanks for mapping them but they 
 aren't required in the instructions, hoping they'll map a few more tiles more 
 quickly.

 Somethings are subjective, if one mapper has mapped them one way on one tile 
 and another mapper has mapped them differently on another unless there is a 
 clear way to map them I'd let them go.  For example highway=unclassified or 
 highway=path sometimes its difficult to be definite one way or the other 
 especially when you look at the number of buildings in the settlement.

 I do do a crtlf with nothing in it to select everything then scroll down 
 the list of tags looking for unusual ones.

 Finally I never use JOSM Presets crtlf works fine for me.

 I'm sure others have different ways of validating so your thoughts please 
 then perhaps we can first define our target audience then refine the course.

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Re: [HOT] Difficulty with the Task Manager

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Can you please elaborate what a login page I've never seen before
means? Any URL or screenshot you could share?

What's the browser and its version you're using?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com wrote:
 Hi Pierre,

 I'm working in #1047 with Jim Smith and John Whelan. Here's one of the URLs.
 I was to visually check and validate. Since the imagery is poor, and Jim had
 already looked at it, I validated it. I can get that far. However, I can't
 access any map regardless of the editor selected or project, even Cameroon,
 without getting redirected to a login page I've never seen before. If I
 login, I'm directed to my profile, and if I then go back to the Tasking
 Manager, I'm pushed back through the same loop.

 Hope this helps.

 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1047#task/550

 Suzan


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 On July 5, 2015 11:03:23 PM Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Suzan,

 This is really weird.

 Can you paste the URL of the project + task you're trying to validate?

 Thanks,
 Pierre

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com wrote:
 
  I can not access GITHUB to report this.
 
  I have been unable to access tasks. When asked what I want to validate
  with and select iD or JOSM, I am directed to a page that asks me login.
  However, I am already logged in. When I try to log in, I am redirected to a
  page that tells me about a possible Ruby with Rails problem.
 
  Please advise.
 
  Suzan Reed
 
 
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.11.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.11.0

Along with many bug fixes, small enhancements and additional
languages, the main improvement relates to performances.
We should encounter less problems with mapathons and large amount of
users. Thus server outages should not occur.

Thanks a lot for the (increasing number of) contributors.
And a special thanks to Drazen for the deployment.

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[HOT] Preparing new release - Please help us with translations

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Hi all,

We're currently preparing a new release of the Tasking Manager.
Some strings have been added or updated. Please help us fill in the
blanks by translating the untranslated strings.

Go to your language page and use filtering to see only the untranslated files.

Note: we decided to keep only the master resource.

If you need some context you can take a look at the dev instance. The
code run there is the latest.
http://tasks.dev.hotosm.org/

On behalf of the dev team, thank you very much in advance.

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Re: [HOT] Task outlines for Nepal

[Pierre GIRAUD]

In case you don't see the export link which is most probably the
case if you don't have the sufficient permissions, you just have to
add .json to the project url to get the tiles exported as GeoJSON.

Regards,
Pierre

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:14 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Sebastian,

 Each task has an export URL (upper right corner).  The export gives
 you a geojson file which you can translate to shapefile.
 Hope that helps.

 On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Sebastian Langer
 lange...@stud.sbg.ac.at wrote:
 Hello everyone,


 First of all: Thank you all for the work, time and effort everyone puts
 into HOT.
 I joined the mailing list only a few months ago, but I am really impressed
 of the general support. - Glad to be a part of this.

 I was wondering if there is a possibility to download the outlines for the
 HOT-tasks for Nepal (preferrably as shapefile - or any other format that
 can be converted to .shp).

 I am currently preparing some visualizations for a poster to show the
 mapping
 efforts in Nepal and it would be great to spatially correlate the newly
 mapped
 objects with the tasking outlines.

 Kind regards,

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Re: [HOT] [Nepal] JOSM presets #1046 and #1060

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Interesting.

Note for the the project managers and/or activation managers: in the
tasking manager, a JOSM preset can be added to the project
instructions. See the misc tab.

Pierre

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:27 AM, cascafico cascaf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi List. This is my first post here.

 I set up two JOSM presets files for assigning IDP and brownfields:

 Nepal Earthquake task #1046
 http://visualtags.hotosm.org/collection/437

 Nepal Earthquake task #1060
 http://visualtags.hotosm.org/collection/440

 Hot to load in JOSM:
 F12 (preferences), third icon (map), third tag, click + sign and load one
 of the above files.

 They shuold allow to addign several tags in a click, and (for IDP camps) to
 select status.

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Re: [HOT] #1018 squaring buildings

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Tom,

You should be able to know exactly what tasks you have worked on by
hovering the line with your name on the stats tab. The corresponding
tasks should be highlighted on the map.

Does it make sense?

Pierre

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Tom Ayerst tom.aye...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am guilty of this.  I did not realise there was a squaring tool on the ID
 editor (There is, its in the halo of tools round an existing feature).  I
 have been picking tasks at random, is there a way of finding which areas I
 have worked on so I can go back and fix the buildings I have drawn?

 Thank you

 Tom

 On 5 May 2015 at 10:36, m902 m902@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I've noticed a number of new mappers not squaring buildings for #1018.
 Could the instructions be updated to ask for buildings to be squared?
 It looks wrong to me, and I will always square buildings (unless they are
 obviously not square, of course).
 Perhaps it doesn't matter?
 Thanks
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Re: [HOT] Google Chrome users

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Sorry if it's a stupid question but, when are the java plugins
required (in the context of HOT)?
I don't think using the tasking manager requires to have Chrome java
plugins enabled.

So, I'm just curious.

Pierre

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 After having investigated the Java plugin situation with Google Chrome I
 have found there is a way to enable the NPAPI that has been disabled.

 1. Open your Chrome web browser.

 2. In the URL panel at the top type in chrome://flags/#enable-npapi

 3. Click the Enable link for Enable NPAPI.

 4. At the bottom of the page click the Relaunch button that has now
 appeared.

 Task completed and Chrome should now support Java plugins.

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Re: [HOT] Task manager changeset comments not working

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This has been reported in the tasking manager issues.
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/513
I think it has also been reported in JOSM.

Pierre

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Augustin Doury augustindo...@gmail.com wrote:
 We noticed the same problem in Burkina.
 We use to copy/past from TM to JOSM the comment for each changeset because
 # is everytime changing to %23,the UTF-8 character.
 I mean if you copy/past it in JOSM before opening a changeset, it's ok. But
 if you want to open a new changeset later, the # is always replaced by
 %23.
 So the issue is coming from JOSM.
 Thanks, good luck,
 Augustin

 2015-05-01 18:02 GMT+00:00 Michael ohr...@gmail.com:

 Working on some of the Nepal projects I noticed that the changeset
 comments autogenerated in JOSM by Task Manager are broken. For example you
 get %23hotosm-project-1018 instead of #hotosm-project-1018.

 Or with project #1010 even a
 source=tms[22]:https://{switch:a,b,c,d}.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/mapbox.satellite-kathmandu-20150425-after/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.jpg?access_token=pk.eyJ1Ijoib3BlbnN0cmVldG1hcCIsImEiOiJhNVlHd29ZIn0.ti6wATGDWOmCnCYen-Ip7Q;.

 I have experienced this issue with JOSM, I do not know if other editors
 are affected as well.

 Since I have seen the repeatedly I just wanted to raise the issue. I guess
 this is probably a configuration issue, not a software problem.

 Thanks  keep on mapping
 Michael (user Ohr)

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[HOT] limit validation to experienced users

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

I wasn't able to read all the email I got for the last 3 days, and
there's a ton of those.

However, I've seen a lot of people complaining about beginner mappers
validating tasks even if they're not experienced enough to do so.
Before we find a way to avoid this with additions to the tasking
manager, I think there may be a workaround.

What about making the (100% done) projects in a private mode
temporarily and give access to a limited list of users so that they
can validate the done tasks.

This could be used for this project for example:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008

This would prevent beginners to come to this project, wonder what to
do and then validate tasks even if they don't know what they're doing.

My 2 cents.

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager updated

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

We just released and deployed a new version of the tasking manager.

Many thanks to those who helped.

Pierre

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 A blocker error were reported recently. It was preventing access to
 some tasks due to errors with the encoding of usernames.
 This has been fixed and a new version has been deployed.

 Pierre

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear hotties,

 A new release (2.9.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.9.0

 Things look to work correctly but there may be issues. Please report
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Re: [HOT] 10 Years of OSM + HOT?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi James,

Sorry, no, I didn't take time to have a look at this.

Pierre

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:02 PM, James Conkling
james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pierre,

 Any update on CORS errors on the TM?  Still getting Cross Origin Errors when
 I make ajax requests.

 This would definitely be useful, but there are also workarounds I can use
 until this is figured out.

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:06 PM, James Conkling
 james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Threw together some test code:
 http://plnkr.co/edit/MkrooDeQPhmADv4CrnTY?p=preview.  Look at the browser
 console for success/error messages

 Can confirm that using the second url (which points to
 'http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/920/tasks.json') throws a CORS error, while
 using the first url (which points to another CORS enabled project server)
 doesn't throw an error.

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This is supposed to land on the following code:

 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/blob/master/osmtm/views/project.py#L381

 Do you have any simple code to test this against? (I'm a bit lazy)

 Thanks


 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:53 PM, James Conkling
 james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hmmm.  I'm still getting a CORS error when I send an ajax request to
  http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/920/tasks.json.
 
  On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
  pierre.gir...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Sorry for the delayed answer.
  All the API requests should be CORS enabled. Well, as soon as they use
  XHR.
 
  On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Huh I had thought that CORS was enabled for the OSMTM api ... is
   that
   not
   the case Drazen or Pierre?
  
   * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
  
  
   On Monday, March 9, 2015 1:36 PM, James Conkling
   james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
   Hey Mikel et al,
  
   Glad to see there's work being done on a TM API.  I've been trying
   to
   load
   the tasks.json file into an external app so I can monitor the
   progress
   of
   some HOT projects (the API docs suggest this should be exposed now,
   even
   though the rest of the API has not yet been implemented), but am
   running
   into issues with Cross Origin requests--requesting as jsonp hasn't
   worked
   either.  Am I barking up the wrong tree here, or is this something I
   should
   be able to do at this point?  (code is here, in case anyone's
   interested)
  
   On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Sam
  
   Some additions to the OSMTM API are in staging, and hopefully will
   deploy
   soon. Once live, this would allow to grab data on a list of
   projects.
   https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/API has a few
   details.
  
   -Mikel
  
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   On Friday, March 6, 2015 1:52 PM, Sam Libby sli...@esri.com wrote:
  
  
  
   Hi all, wanted to share this great visualization of ten years of OSM
   edits:
   https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/ in case people had
   not
   seen
   it on social media.
  
   A question  for the group – is there an available dataset/API in
   json,
   geojson, shapefile, etc that shows the locations of all historical
   and
   current HOT tasks – ideally with dates of creation? I know it’s
   available
   per-task as geojson but thought it might be available as a big chunk
   as
   well.  I think it would be a really interesting overlay to add to
   the
   10-year map or other OSM visualizations – especially in W. Africa
   during
   the
   Ebola epidemic, you can clearly see in the time-based visualization
   where
   there were big impacts from the HOT community.
  
   Thanks,
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Re: [HOT] validating tiles

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Daniel,

This makes much sense.
Do you have a github account? If so, please create an issue and copy
paste your message there.

Pierre

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Daniel Specht danspe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lots of projects are mapped quickly, but validated  slowly. This could be
 because
 (A) beginners don't feel qualified to pass judgement
 (B) people don't like to pass judgement
 (C)  doing original work is more fun than reviewing someone else's work.

 I have a couple suggestions for encouraging validation.

 1.  Include instructions for validation on the instructions tab.
Because the instructions tab only has mapping instructions, readers may
 think that validation is for someone else to do.

 2.  Include validation statistics on the stats tab.
   Because the stats tab only has statistics for tiles completed, mappers may
 think that validating tiles is not essential. Also, these statistics give
 the mapper, but not the validator, a psychological reward. I've been
 validating a lot of tiles -- sometimes I seem to be doing most of the
 validations on a project -- and even though seeing the number by your name
 increment isn't the biggest thrill in the world, I have to admit that I miss
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager updated

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi everyone,

A blocker error were reported recently. It was preventing access to
some tasks due to errors with the encoding of usernames.
This has been fixed and a new version has been deployed.

Pierre

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear hotties,

 A new release (2.9.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.9.0

 Things look to work correctly but there may be issues. Please report
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Re: [HOT] 10 Years of OSM + HOT?

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Sorry for the delayed answer.
All the API requests should be CORS enabled. Well, as soon as they use XHR.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Huh I had thought that CORS was enabled for the OSMTM api ... is that not
 the case Drazen or Pierre?

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


 On Monday, March 9, 2015 1:36 PM, James Conkling
 james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hey Mikel et al,

 Glad to see there's work being done on a TM API.  I've been trying to load
 the tasks.json file into an external app so I can monitor the progress of
 some HOT projects (the API docs suggest this should be exposed now, even
 though the rest of the API has not yet been implemented), but am running
 into issues with Cross Origin requests--requesting as jsonp hasn't worked
 either.  Am I barking up the wrong tree here, or is this something I should
 be able to do at this point?  (code is here, in case anyone's interested)

 On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sam

 Some additions to the OSMTM API are in staging, and hopefully will deploy
 soon. Once live, this would allow to grab data on a list of projects.
 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/API has a few details.

 -Mikel

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


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 Hi all, wanted to share this great visualization of ten years of OSM edits:
 https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/ in case people had not seen
 it on social media.

 A question  for the group – is there an available dataset/API in json,
 geojson, shapefile, etc that shows the locations of all historical and
 current HOT tasks – ideally with dates of creation? I know it’s available
 per-task as geojson but thought it might be available as a big chunk as
 well.  I think it would be a really interesting overlay to add to the
 10-year map or other OSM visualizations – especially in W. Africa during the
 Ebola epidemic, you can clearly see in the time-based visualization where
 there were big impacts from the HOT community.

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Re: [HOT] 10 Years of OSM + HOT?

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This is supposed to land on the following code:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/blob/master/osmtm/views/project.py#L381

Do you have any simple code to test this against? (I'm a bit lazy)

Thanks


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:53 PM, James Conkling
james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmmm.  I'm still getting a CORS error when I send an ajax request to
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/920/tasks.json.

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sorry for the delayed answer.
 All the API requests should be CORS enabled. Well, as soon as they use
 XHR.

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Huh I had thought that CORS was enabled for the OSMTM api ... is that
  not
  the case Drazen or Pierre?
 
  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
 
 
  On Monday, March 9, 2015 1:36 PM, James Conkling
  james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hey Mikel et al,
 
  Glad to see there's work being done on a TM API.  I've been trying to
  load
  the tasks.json file into an external app so I can monitor the progress
  of
  some HOT projects (the API docs suggest this should be exposed now, even
  though the rest of the API has not yet been implemented), but am running
  into issues with Cross Origin requests--requesting as jsonp hasn't
  worked
  either.  Am I barking up the wrong tree here, or is this something I
  should
  be able to do at this point?  (code is here, in case anyone's
  interested)
 
  On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Sam
 
  Some additions to the OSMTM API are in staging, and hopefully will
  deploy
  soon. Once live, this would allow to grab data on a list of projects.
  https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/API has a few
  details.
 
  -Mikel
 
  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
 
 
  On Friday, March 6, 2015 1:52 PM, Sam Libby sli...@esri.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi all, wanted to share this great visualization of ten years of OSM
  edits:
  https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/ in case people had not
  seen
  it on social media.
 
  A question  for the group – is there an available dataset/API in json,
  geojson, shapefile, etc that shows the locations of all historical and
  current HOT tasks – ideally with dates of creation? I know it’s
  available
  per-task as geojson but thought it might be available as a big chunk as
  well.  I think it would be a really interesting overlay to add to the
  10-year map or other OSM visualizations – especially in W. Africa during
  the
  Ebola epidemic, you can clearly see in the time-based visualization
  where
  there were big impacts from the HOT community.
 
  Thanks,
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.9.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.9.0

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Re: [HOT] Contacting mappers with spaces in their names

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This is indeed a good workaround.
I'm aware of the issue, but still havent found a way to fix it.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:11 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks John

 On 6 March 2015 at 08:29, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi John,

 You can just type it in directly with square brackets around the name:

 @[First Last] for example

 That should do it, it just will not auto complete.

 cheers,
 Blake


 On 3/6/2015 2:21 PM, john whelan wrote:

 How do you do it?  GEES +NN so looks like a student group of students
 but making fairly basic mistakes I'd like to catch early.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting 01.2015

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I won't be able to attend this meeting unfortunately.

Pierre

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hr wrote:
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 Hi everyone,

 I guess we should get back to regular TWG meetings, Training Working group has
 'hogged' :), first Monday of the month, we are going to move our TWG meetings
 to the second Monday of the month.


 So, the next Tech WG meeting is scheduled on #hot IRC at 17:00
 UTC, next Monday (12.01.2015.) [0]

 If you want to report/discuss something please update the document, the order 
 is
 not important:
 https://hackpad.com/TWG-Meeting-01.2015-Tentative-Agenda-MeBF1sV2xmo


 Dražen

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Re: [HOT] Dutch language

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Milo,

Thanks for your contribution.
I hope I can release a new version of the tasking manager soon. It
should be deployed next week if everything goes well.

Regards,
Pierre

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 Hi there,

 I translated the tasking manager to Dutch and would like to know when it
 will come available on the website so I can check if it is visual appealing
 and contextual correct.


 Thanks!

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Re: [HOT] iOS OSM offline app recommendation for deployment

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I like to use Galileo.
I paid for the pack which allows to record GPS track and to use maps
stored in a mbtiles format.
I wrote my own script to create .mbtiles files for maps I want to use
when going hiking. Can share if you need it.
They also propose maps for different available as vector data.

The app is simple, has a good looking and is user friendly. Reasons
why I like it so much.

Pierre

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:24 PM, John White jwpwh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 I would give Skobbler a try. Their app uses OSM and the latest vector
 mapping technology so their maps are really small downloads (The whole of
 South Africa is only about 29mb).
 https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/gps-navigation-by-scout-sat/id329340711?mt=8

 Regards
 John

 On 3 November 2014 19:56, Estabrook, Samuel H.
 samuel.estabr...@redcross.org wrote:

 Hi Everyone,



 I work on the American Red Cross Geospatial team and we are currently
 preparing for a personnel deployment to Ebola-stricken West Africa. We
 typically provide a tablet with offline maps for each team member deploying,
 and have had success with OsmAnd for Android-based tablets. I’m looking for
 a similar application on iOS that allows for offline storage of map tiles
 (specifically iOS 7 for an iPad mini). Can anyone suggest a free or paid app
 that provides this functionality? Thank you for your time.



 Best Regards,

 Sam Estabrook



 Samuel Estabrook | Haiti GIS Analyst | International Services | American
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Re: [HOT] allow more aggressive caching for tasks.hotosm.org

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This issue should be fixed with
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/pull/429.
I hope I will be able to deploy this sooner this week.

Regards,
Pierre

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Hi Florian,

 It is an important point to look at with all the african among other
 contributors having slow internet connections.

 If you have a github account, you can open a ticket at
 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/

 Pierre

 
 De : Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de
 À : HOT@openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé le : Samedi 25 octobre 2014 14h39
 Objet : [HOT] allow more aggressive caching for tasks.hotosm.org


 Hi,
 i have been looking at my squid logs lately and discovered that for
 example the HOT task manager trys very hard to make static content
 uncacheable - for example this (line from my squid cache):

 1414261472.792  6464 192.168.177.157 TCP_MISS/200 95271 GET
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/static/js/lib/jquery-1.7.2.min.js? -
 DIRECT/144.76.31.210 application/javascript

 The ? at the end of the URL causes this static content to be uncachable.

 There are lots more examples which causes the web page to be much
 slower than it needs to be. There are alternative ways to control
 cachability of content on client side.

 PLEASE - Use expire headers, timestamps or paths for
 controlling caches.

 I am living with a 384kbit/s connection and stuff like this makes
 life a lot slower - also for people in desaster areas who most likely
 fight for every kbit/s they can squeeze out of some flaky GSM link.

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Re: [HOT] Loss of editing history when splitting tiles

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Hi Pete,

Thanks for the report.
The issue is already known.
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/156

Please add comments to the issue thread if something is missing there.

Pierre

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Pete Masters
pedrito1...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi all, just a comment really... I am working on task 713 and a tile had
 been worked on by several people at the mapathon in London on Tuesday. An
 experienced mapper had replied to several comments, giving some good advice.

 I wanted to finish it off, but it was quite large, so I split it.
 Unfortunately, this meant that all the info and comments disappeared. Would
 be really good if the smaller tiles retained this when split...

 Cheers

 Pete

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Re: [HOT] Linking to task stats directly

[Pierre GIRAUD]

No, unfortunately, there's no way to get a link to the project with
stats tab directly open.
This may be useful though. A specific page with only the stats would also help.

Pierre

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Pete Masters
pedrito1...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi all, sorry for two questions in quick succession...

 I'd like to feed back to the mappers that came and volunteered on Tuesday
 (and motivate them to finish task 713 over the weekend). Is there any way of
 directly linking to the stats tab in here:
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/713 ?

 Cheers,

 Pete

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Re: [HOT] Layer to indicate areas that are considered as 'complete' in tasking manager?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

The state codes are described here :
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/blob/master/osmtm/models.py#L154

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Hi Nick

 On the top right of the Task Manager window, you will find a Export button.
 This let download a json file with polygons for each task. You will find a
 state variable.  I dont have the definitions of this variable, but Pierre
 Giraud should be able to provide it.


 Pierre

 
 De : Nick McWilliam (MapAction) nmcwill...@mapaction.org
 À : hot@openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé le : Jeudi 16 octobre 2014 15h47
 Objet : [HOT] Layer to indicate areas that are considered as 'complete' in
 tasking manager?

 Hi all –

 I’m wondering if there’s a representation available of areas that have been
 marked as ‘done’ in the HOT tasking manager? What I have in mind is
 tag/layer showing each tasking square along with its completion date (as an
 indication of currency).

 The case in point is work on Sierra Leone: it would be great to know where
 (for example) coverage of buildings can be considered complete, as an
 indicator of population density. This way, we could distinguish “no
 buildings” from “no data”, and similarly, “no roads” from “no data”.

 Apologies if there’s already an obvious answer that I’ve missed.

 Many thanks as ever –
 Nick.


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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Hey!

Thanks all for this great feedback.
I'll put the button back (maybe with a different text) as soon as possible.

Pierre

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm also not thrilled with the move of Unlock. IMO that's going to
 make inadvertent premature Dones much more common. I would much rather
 see it be a button again, perhaps colored yellow to distinguish it from
 the green Done.


 I also agree with this. The small unlock link and one big button will lead
 to more tasks being marked done when they are not.

 I couldn't find the unlock link for about 20 seconds when I just looked for
 it and I know I need to look for it. New people might very well miss it not
 knowing what it means or that they should look for it.

 I suggest a button again that says something like Stop working on Task and
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.6.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.6.0

Among the bug fixes or little improvements, this release's main goal
is to prevent JOSM users to send the task boundary to OSM database
even if ignore is set which may happen with recent versions of JOSM.

JOSM users should now see a link to a GPX file right below the Edit
in JOSM button. They're invited to download the given file and load
it in their favorite editor.

As always, please report any issue.

Best wishes, happy mapping.
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Re: [HOT] Splitting an existing OSM file for a task

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I'm not sure I fully understand what you're are trying to achieve.

However, recently we created projects to manage the import of GNS data.
We needed to split the data into chunks. One for each grid cell (task).
I did create a list of shapefiles for that purpose using a script
written very quickly in python.

https://github.com/pgiraud/osmtm_gns_extract/blob/master/extract.py

I hope this helps.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Mathieu Leduc-Hamel marra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm working with others at integrating existing data which is already in OSM
 format into OpenstreetMap. We would like to use the OSM tasking manager for
 that but we would have to split the existing osm files into smaller one to
 create a grid of tasks

 I've found tools to split existing OSM files into smaller but not splitting
 by geographic region, i was wondering what you guys are using.

 If it imply any code, especially in Python no worry, we can do that :)

 I've had a look at the hotosm repos on github but didn't found anything
 specifically for that:

 https://github.com/hotosm/

 Thanks for your help

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Re: [HOT] HOT Projects issues triaging - second iteration

[Pierre Giraud]

Ah crap!

I won't be able to attend. It's staff meeting today. I'll be back home too late.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards 
Pierre

Envoyé de mon iPhone

 Le 2 oct. 2014 à 11:30, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hr a écrit :
 
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 17:00 UTC [0] on mumble chat [1].
 
 Dražen
 
 [0]
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Re: [HOT] HOT Projects issues triaging

[Pierre GIRAUD]

There's also huboard.
https://huboard.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Dražen Odobašić
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 A short remainder for HOT Projects issues triaging meeting which is TODAY at
 17:00 UTC [0] on the HOT Mumble server [1].

 To facilitate issue triaging we will use http://waffle.io service, for example
 https://waffle.io/hotosm/hot-exports. In order to manipulate 'issue cards' you
 need to have 'write privileges' for the specific repository, and that is
 easily fixable if you have an Github account. Columns are easily customizable
 and we can link specific columns and issues using labels.

 We'll also use hackpad service for documentation and coordination.

 Dražen

 [0]
 http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440iso=20140925T17msg=HOT%20Projects%20issues%20triaging
 [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble


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 Hi,

 we are going to have HOT Projects issues triaging on Thursday, 25th
 September, 2014 [0].

 The purpose of this meeting is to do quick review and prioritization of
 issues reported on Github in order to get context straight. We need to do
 this to be able to draw up priorities, solicit feedback and ultimately
 start thinking about funding.

 This meeting is for you if: * you are a HOT project manager * you reported
 issues and want to help with triaging

 At the moment meeting will happen on the HOT Mumble server [1], and in
 case that does not workout, we can always default back to IRC
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting X+15

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I'm afraid I won't be able to attend.
I'm really sorry.

Pierre

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 If you want to report/discuss something please update the document, the order 
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 not important: 
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Re: [HOT] TM2 Feedback for contributors

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi,

We actually do store information about who locks a task.
See http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/611#task/30 for example.
Even if not trivial, it should be possible to analyze the data to
figure out if many users lock task without marking them as done.

Pierre

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com
jaa...@helleranta.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some new mappers are never going to mark a square done because they just
 do not feel like the know enough to say it is done.


 This reminds me: Do we capture (and store) information on who locks (aka.
 reserves) squares? (Asking because it doesn't show if we do.)

 The thing is that if not then we're quite possibly missing a bunch of
 contributors because I think that Blake is correct in saying that some
 (newbies) will never mark a square done. .. Surely we could say and think
 that those newbies will not be newbies forever and that they will eventually
 start marking squares done. But I think it could be interesting in any case
 -- simply for the sake of understanding how people use TM if nothing else!
 -- to capture and why not show in stats how many each squares each username
 has locked (and then of course finished).

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Re: [HOT] Can't edit any task from the task manager - An error occured

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Blake,

Thanks for the report.
It looks like an issue on the server.
I'm afraid we won't be able to fix it before tomorrow unfortunately.

I hope we can fix it as soon as possible.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 The tasking Manager seems to think I have a task checked out, and the
 square for the last task I tried to checkout does show as being worked on.

 When I click on the main project entry (Project 586) it automatically
 takes me to the task it thinks I am editing (task 290). It then says
 Loading and then blanks out the Contribute panel and returns a dialog
 that says An error occured

 Trying to select another task in the same project results in the
 Contribute panel saying I already have a task locked. Clicking on the a
 task locked link or the Select it again button just results in the
 Contribute panel blanking and the An error occured dialog showing.

 I have logged out and back in, let it sit for over 2 hours, cleared my
 cookies and browsing history, tried two different browsers, two different
 machines and operating systems, always the same behavior.

 Any suggestions?

 Best wishes,
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager2

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:

 I'd like to give a short update on Tasking Manager 2 to our 10th
 Anniversary Celebration in Seattle. Can someone give me a short description
 on the latest v2.4.0, update on the following enhancements?

 Difficulty can be set for each task


Project managers can now set a difficulty level (from easy to hard) for
each single task. Information about the difficulty rating (when available)
is given to contributors when they select a task. Beginners may prefer to
work on easy task whereas experienced mappers can work on more difficult
tasks.


 Priority areas can be defined for a project


Project managers can draw polygons within the project area to distinguish
sections where the work needs to be done in priority. For example, after an
earthquake, urban areas close to the epicenter need to be mapped first.
The priority areas are shown on the map.
Also when contributors take a task at random, they are preferably given
tasks that are in the priority areas.


 Users are informed when a task they worked on is invalidated


In the validation process, contributors can invalidate the work done on a
task if they consider it's not complete or not correctly done. In this
case, the user who marked the task as done is sent a message with the
comment by the validator. This will eventually help contributors to avoid
mistakes and do a better mapping.


 Project tasks can be exported to GeoJSON


Project managers can export the projects' tasks as a GeoJSON file so that
they can use it elsewhere (QGIS?). They can use it for reports for example.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards.
Pierre



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[HOT] Tasking Manager V2 updated

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Dear hotties,

A bit earlier today, we deployed a new version (2.3.1) of the Tasking
Manager.

It includes new features and fixes some bugs. See
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases

As always, please report any issue.

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Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Activation

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.

Previously, there was no real way to list the projects associated to
an activation.

For example, the following link didn't really list the jobs for the
Ebola related activation.
http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured/Ebola

What it actually did is searching for jobs with ebola in their name
and/or description (even in the middle of words) and shows only the
featured ones.
If for any reason ebola was contained in a word (for example:
aktiebolag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktiebolag) in the
description, the corresponding job would also be listed.

So, Mikel is right, if one wants a similar result, the following link works:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=prioritydirection=ascsearch=Ebola

The only difference is that it doesn't only show the high priority
projects. However, high priority projects will appear on top.


About grouping projects by activation, though it's indeed a
must-have feature, it's not under development. Correct me if I'm wrong
but it has never been planned.

I fully understand Pierre's frustrations but adding new features
fatally may break existing one. I've been doing my best to break as
less features as possible, and to get a Tasking Manager more powerful
than it was before.

Pierre

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just received an informion that follwing the migration this week to the
 new Task Manager
 V2, we cannot anymore list  all the Task manager jobs for a project like
 we did before .
 Then the link below will simply list all jobs. We will then take care to
 have the Ebola Tasks
 at the top of the list.
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured/Ebola

 My understanding (Pierre Giraud can provide more details) is that this
 feature is under redevelopment right now, and will be available and better
 than before.

 In the interim, the search function does work to filter jobs (if a little
 less elegant url).
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=prioritydirection=ascsearch=Ebola

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Thanks for the feedback.
I created an issue and will address it as soon as possible.

Regards

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM, antje lorch lo...@ifrik.org wrote:
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 Hi,

 I also used the My tasks so it would be good if that could be added
 again - maybe as an option in the sort by dropdown menu.

 greetings
 clara

 On 17/07/14 10:28, Pierre GIRAUD wrote:
 I didn't really know if it was useful or not. If you really miss
 this one, we can consider re-adding it. However, if you want to
 which projects you worked, simply go to
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/the_user_name

 For example: http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/PierZen

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Alexander W. Janssen
 alexander.jans...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pierre,

 looks good, thanks! One question though, what happened to the
 My tasks button in the list of projects? I know what I worked
 on, but that option was very convenient.

 Cheers, Alexander.

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
 pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all, tasking manager users, mappers and project managers,

 We're happy to announce that the Tasking Manager has been
 updated. A few minutes ago, a new version of the Tasking
 Manager took place at http://tasks.hotosm.org

 If you get an error while loading for the first time, please go
 to http://tasks.hotosm.org/logout (or manually remove the
 cookies).

 Please report any issue preferably using github [1].

 A more detailed message explaining what's new will follow.

 ** Important note for project managers (people who were
 admins on previous version): Please contact me off list. The
 projects description and instruction sometimes need to be
 modified a bit. I'll be happy to give you a hand.

 Kind regards, Pierre

 [1] http://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
 pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 The migration is currently in progress. Tasking Manager is
 down. It will be back soon with a brand new interface.

 Kind regards, Pierre

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD
 pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud
 to announce that we will launch a new version of the
 Tasking Manager soon.

 During the migration from the current version to the new
 one, the Tasking Manager will not be available. The
 downtime is supposed to last only few minutes.

 The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at
 08:00 UTC.
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08p1=1440



 Sorry for the inconvenience.

 We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.

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The migration is currently in progress.
Tasking Manager is down.
It will be back soon with a brand new interface.

Kind regards,
Pierre

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
 that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.

 During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
 Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
 last only few minutes.

 The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08p1=1440

 Sorry for the inconvenience.

 We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

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Dear all, tasking manager users, mappers and project managers,

We're happy to announce that the Tasking Manager has been updated.
A few minutes ago, a new version of the Tasking Manager took place at
http://tasks.hotosm.org

If you get an error while loading for the first time, please go to
http://tasks.hotosm.org/logout (or manually remove the cookies).

Please report any issue preferably using github [1].

A more detailed message explaining what's new will follow.

** Important note for project managers (people who were admins on
previous version):
Please contact me off list. The projects description and instruction
sometimes need to be modified a bit. I'll be happy to give you a hand.

Kind regards,
Pierre

[1] http://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 The migration is currently in progress.
 Tasking Manager is down.
 It will be back soon with a brand new interface.

 Kind regards,
 Pierre

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear all,

 The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
 that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.

 During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
 Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
 last only few minutes.

 The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08p1=1440

 Sorry for the inconvenience.

 We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.

 Thanks,
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

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I didn't really know if it was useful or not.
If you really miss this one, we can consider re-adding it.
However, if you want to which projects you worked, simply go to
http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/the_user_name

For example: http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/PierZen

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Alexander W. Janssen
alexander.jans...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pierre,

 looks good, thanks! One question though, what happened to the My
 tasks button in the list of projects? I know what I worked on, but
 that option was very convenient.

 Cheers, Alexander.

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear all, tasking manager users, mappers and project managers,

 We're happy to announce that the Tasking Manager has been updated.
 A few minutes ago, a new version of the Tasking Manager took place at
 http://tasks.hotosm.org

 If you get an error while loading for the first time, please go to
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/logout (or manually remove the cookies).

 Please report any issue preferably using github [1].

 A more detailed message explaining what's new will follow.

 ** Important note for project managers (people who were admins on
 previous version):
 Please contact me off list. The projects description and instruction
 sometimes need to be modified a bit. I'll be happy to give you a hand.

 Kind regards,
 Pierre

 [1] http://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The migration is currently in progress.
 Tasking Manager is down.
 It will be back soon with a brand new interface.

 Kind regards,
 Pierre

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear all,

 The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
 that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.

 During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
 Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
 last only few minutes.

 The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08p1=1440

 Sorry for the inconvenience.

 We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.

 Thanks,
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Severin,

We now have 2 different roles:
 - admin: user who can create projects and change other users privileges,
 - project manager: users who can create projects.

The users who were admins in the V1 are now project managers in the V2.
Only some of us (you included) have admin rights.

Regards,
Pierre

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Severin Menard
severin.men...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 What is the new governance regarding Job creation rights? Seems the former
 admins - now project managers cannot extend the rights of job creations to
 peers they find skilled enough to make them. Were there issues in the past
 with this cooptation system?

 Sincerely,

 Severin


 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Marcos Oliveira
 marcosoliveira.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good job Pierre!

 One question: Now that it's possible, where can we go to work on
 translating the OSM Tasking Manager?


 2014-07-17 11:55 GMT+01:00 Marcos Oliveira
 marcosoliveira.2...@gmail.com:

 Good job Pierre!

 One question: Where can we go to work on translating the OSM Tasking
 Manager?


 2014-07-17 11:44 GMT+01:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr:

 Thanks Pierre

 a lot of new improvements, including translation in various languages, a
 greater image, the possibility for public in general to see a task without
 being connected.

 For the image link, people are forced to click to see the image license
 before they can see the image link. This even if this is a public license.

 For the page layout, we are loosing the page layout options with html
 tag. This is an important regression, this in the middle of the Ebola
 Activation. Any rapid solution for this? As I said many times, we need this
 to better emphasize various aspects and make a better presentation.

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[HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Dear all,

The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.

During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
last only few minutes.

The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08p1=1440

Sorry for the inconvenience.

We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting X+13

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Error has already been reported.
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issues/226
This will be fixed in V2.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 I ran into an interesting issue yesterday while working on Job 578. Remote
 control isn't working for the initial task setup even though I've enabled it
 in JOSM. It just occurred to me that the problem may be NoScript. Anyway, as
 a result, I've been using the .osm file to establish the task block
 boundaries. The problem is that the version attribute at the head of the
 .osm file is 0.5, and JOSM says it doesn't support that version. I have to
 download the file, manually edit it to change the 0.5 to 0.6, then
 everything works from there.

 I have the latest stable version of JOSM, which I launch as a separate
 program rather than using the .jnlp version.

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[HOT] Fwd: OSM Tasking Manager V2

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

I'm forwarding this Email sent by Mikel since it looks like a lot of
us didn't receive.

Pierre



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Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:44 AM
Subject: [HOT] OSM Tasking Manager V2
To: hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org


Hi

Work has been moving on V2 of the Tasking Manager, and it's getting
closer to be production ready. Let me give a little background on
what's happening for those that may have missed it, and then lay out
the current deployment plan.

Some months ago, several groups here in DC, that regularly use the
OSMTM, expressed interest in funding particular improvements to the
code base. This especially after Typhoon Haiyan. Problem was where to
direct that interest; there were various branches of the current site,
as well as a V2, and a great deal of feedback and feature requests in
various places. In discussion with Pierre Giraud, he decided that the
best way forward would be to focus development on V2, getting it to
support all V1 features, and building the new improvements there. V2
for many reasons was a more stable base to build on, and allow us to
really open OSMTM to a wider developer community. And additionally, V2
already has gained features not present in V1, like translation.

Additionally, the funding group and HOT representatives had priorities
for new implementation, many held collectively, some not, some well
defined, some open ended, and all within the realm of relevant for
HOT. These priorities were discussed and sorted into a top 10, and
development time required assigned to each. That led to a budget,
which through various mechanisms, the funding group pooled together to
support. I'm happy to say that we have commitments to the entire
budget, which has funded a first phase, moving to V2, and will fund a
second phase, implementing a set of new features in V2.

The first phase is nearly complete, and we're ready for deployment
steps and discussion. A staging instance will be set up on HOT's
server. We'll then do a round of feedback with OSMTM admin, users,
etc. Urgent fixes can be accommodated. Other suggestions will be
documented in GitHub for later attention in the second phase, or for
longer term. Once things looks satisfactory to everyone and stable,
we'll switch. The current OSMTM will stay up and running for a time on
a different URL, since there are some active projects, and we may need
to refer to some projects in the archive.

At a later stage, Drazen plans to do a code review, and start working
on coding standards for HOT as a whole. Also once launched, we're
planning to hold event(s) to announce the new version and give proper
public thanks to the supporters of the OSMTM.

Let us know if you have any questions. Pierre Giraud, let me know if I
missed anything.
And I'm going to re-send another email now about gathering to discuss
OSMTM on Monday at the Tech WG.

Cheers
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[HOT] Fwd: Let's Meet to Coordinate the OSM Tasking Manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

I'm forwarding this Email sent by Mikel since it looks like a lot of
us didn't receive.

Pierre


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Subject: [HOT] Let's Meet to Coordinate the OSM Tasking Manager
To: hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org


HOT

The Tasking Manager is simply _critical_ to HOT response in
emergencies, and preparedness projects. There has been a lot of coding
work recently, Pierre Giraud getting V2 in shape for release.
Developers and designers are eager to contribute. Everyone has
creative ideas on improvements and new functionality for the OSMTM.

We love the OSMTM :)

But, what HOT has lacked for OSMTM (and all of its software projects
honestly) are structured ways to communicate, handle feedback, plan
for the future, manage deployment schedule, onboard new developers and
designers, etc.

With all the activity, this seems like the right moment to start to
figure this out. All of us who have an interest in the OSMTM should
meet soon. What I propose is that we gather at the next Tech Working
Group meeting, and once other business has been concluded, we continue
into an OSMTM agenda.

On the agenda would be

* The current development of V2 (I will send another email later today
detailing where things are at)
* The design and developer CU Boulder student initiative
* Defining a software management process for the OSMTM (ie
communication, handling of bug/feature requests, deployment process,
documentation, onboarding, etc)

I believe the next HOT Tech WG will be on Monday, May 5, at 17:00 UTC,
on #hot IRC. (Drazen please correct me if that's wrong).

Hopefully that works for most of us. Let me know directly if timing is an issue.

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Re: [HOT] Feedback Requested for Tasking Manager Design Project

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Hi Monique,

First of all, this looks awesome.
FYI, I'm the main developer of the tasking manager for both V1 and
V2. And I would be really happy to get help from you and the others
students in order to improve the tasking manager, and increase its
usefulness.

I have several questions to begin with:
 - Can you please ellaborate what macro-level templates are?
 - Is design meant for graphical or user experience? maybe both?
 - Which instance of the tasking manager v2 did/will you work on? Are
you aware that a demo instance showing the ongoing work is avaiable? A
lot of changes happened since the one at
http://tasksv2.dev.hotosm.org/ was installed.
 - Did Mikel Maron or Robert Soden share the link to the v1's feedback
document with you? There's a lot of useful information there.

Looking forward to getting more feedback from your analysis. I hope
I'll be able to help as much as possible.

Pierre

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Monique Mitchell
moniquemitchel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy Friday Folks!



 ***Quick Summary***

 Students from the University of Colorado at Boulder are working on a class
 project that is looking at possible design enhancements to version 2.0 of
 the Tasking Manager. We’re focusing on macro-level themes and would love
 your contribution and feedback.



 ***Full Description***

 I wanted to send an email to this listserv first to introduce myself—my name
 is Monique Mitchell and I’m a graduate student here at CU Boulder. Myself
 and some fellow graduate students love the work that HOT does and as a final
 project for our Social Computer course with Professor Leysia Palen have been
 looking at the design of the HOT Tasking Manager from a constructive
 perspective.



 We have been working under the advisement of one of the HOT members—Robert
 Soden—as well as have gotten a bit of guidance from Mikel Maron.  We've done
 a number of in-class exercises that allowed us to gather user feedback from
 our classmates.  We have also been absorbing as much data that we can on the
 extant conversations regarding the Tasking Manager (via this listserv’s
 archives, github repo, user feedback, etc.).  We understand that Tasking
 Manager 2.0 is underway and have looked closely at its design.  Our focus
 has been to address such macro themes/needs as:



 Integration of the Ecosystem

 ...netween the HOT website, the Tasking Manger, OSM, the various training
 resources available, etc.

 ...to help minimize confusion and maximize effectiveness via design while
 maintaining the spirit of the community


 Stronger Social Features and

 ...how these can be leveraged to improve the onboarding/training of new
 mappers

 ...how these can help incentive folks to map more consistently

 ...how these can help increase validation rates and accuracy



 At this point I wanted to open up the conversation in case anyone here had
 some comments/feedback on more macro-level design ideas for the Tasking
 Manager. We recognize that any ideas we have are only as valuable as they
 meets the needs of the community. Lastly, we acknowledge the preliminary
 nature of our work while maintaining that it is an important task and as
 such we hope that any contribution we make can help move the conversation
 forward in new and exciting ways.



 If you do have any feedback either now, or once a mockup is made available,
 please feel free respond on the listserv or to send myself an email
 (moniquemitchel...@gmail.com) at any point in time. Or, if you’d prefer to
 talk to me on the phone or via Skype, send me a personal email and we can
 exchange information and find a mutually agreeable time. I hope that the
 results of this exercise would be useful to HOT and any input from the
 community would help ensure it's aligned with your goals and vision.



 From Colorful Colorado,

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Re: [HOT] Monitoring changesets that occurs only within a specific bounding box

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I often use ITO's OSM Mapper for monitoring changes in a given bbox.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map

I hope this helps.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Edouard LEGOUPIL
edouard.legou...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear list,

 In Jordan, Refugee camps base map  are maintained through OSM.
 Zaatari is an example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/32.2933/36.3191
 and we are about to open a new camp here:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/31.9018/36.5787

 One recurrent question is about monitoring the changesets in order to avoid
 sabotage. I look at
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/history#map=15/32.2933/36.3266 but it gives me
 changesets that apply both within and beyond my bounding box. Filtering them
 manually is time consuming...

 Based on the wiki here
 (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Query:_GET_.2Fapi.2F0.6.2Fchangesets),
 I looked at the API to do so.
 http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets works but the 2 detailed one
 below do not provide results:
 http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets/GET?bbox=32.266596,36.288786,32.278352,36.274366
 http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets/bbox=32.266596,36.288786,32.278352,36.274366

 Any hints on how to monitor changes that occurs only within the extend of a
 specific bbox ?

 Thanks a lot,
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Projects (jobs) creation will hopefully be easier with the V2.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM, amrit karmacharya amrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I actively use the dev-instance.

  It is important to test out the area because i normally create task using
 relations and normally tasks are created at boundaries which only cover
 small part of required area. The relation has to be adjusted so that such
 tasks are removed, this is important because the internet here is slow and
 speed depends on no of tasks. Also important is to adjust the zoom level as
 i usually don't have any idea on how the tasks will be created and how many
 will be created till the creation of first task. After that it is a
 iterative process, and usually need to create many of them for getting
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Hi Katie,

This would be awesome. I know that tests are missing and I really
think that it's something we want to improve.

I'm afraid I won't be available to help this week-end.

Looking forward to this.

Pierre

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 For those that will be there...  I will get there around 1pm

 Basically what I think I will do is:

 - get the old and new tasking manager code setup to work on.

 - look at github issues and the list of features

 - for new code, I generally think its important for there to be decent test
 coverage. I think I saw some tests (good). Perhaps can add more and want to
 setup tests to run for the github repo. Having decent tests makes it easier
 to continue development, change things, etc with more confidence that stuff
 is not being broken and improves quality. (i hope that's ok).

 If I do all that in the weekend, then I am happy and can continue to
 contribute some after hack weekend.

 I also have non-hot stuff that I can do.

 Cheers,
 Katie

 On Mar 6, 2014 12:20 PM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Pierre,
 
  Thanks for the info. (It seems odd to work on v1 if it is going to be
  replaced.) It would be nice to see that user-feedback if you're
  willing to share it.

 I just shared it with you.

 
  Do I understand right that your v1 upgrade label means features from
  v1 that are not yet in v2?

 Exactly.

 
  Also: is it correct that the right way to contribute to v2 would be to
  start with the master branch of the pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2
  project?

 This is correct. Once the project is mature enough it will be moved to
 the hotosm organization.


 We can try to poke at migrating stuff to v2, if it's helpful.  I need to
 look through the code and the list of features needed to migrate.

 Cheers,
 Katie




 
  Thanks
  Dan
 
  2014-03-04 12:31 GMT+00:00 Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com:
  Hi all,
 
  Thanks Katie for paying attention to the tasking manager and willing
  to contribute.
 
  First of all, for your information, the development of the tasking
  manager will eventually be switched to v2. Hopefully this spring. In
  priority, we'll try to have the features available in v1 added to v2.
 
  https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues?labels=feature+request+%28v1+upgrade%29page=1state=open
  https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/V1-Features-List
 
  The v2 might be too weak for now if you want to contribute but if you
  feel confident enough there's a lot to do.
 
  On the other hand, the v1 can still be enhanced until we officially
  switch development to v2.
  For example, as proposed by Yanista, I think that working on #192 is
  worth. Even designing the workflow or user interface without coding
  anything would help a lot.
 
  My last suggestion regarding the tasking manager is analyzing the
  user's feedback. There's a google drive doc I can share. I didn't have
  time to summarize its content and pick ideas from the large amount of
  great feedback written there by several different users. Bugs or
  feature requests could simply be turned into github issues.
 
  Regards,
  Pierre
 
  On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  I will be at OSM London hack weekend in March (8-9).
 
 
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Mar_2014
 
  Curious if any other hot folks will be there?
 
  I might like to poke at the tasking manager or something else
  hot-related.
 
  I see numerous issues and features for tasking manager. Any that
  would be
  particularly helpful to work on? or other tools?
 
  https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager
 
  https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2
 
  Cheers,
  Katie
 
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Re: [HOT] London hack weekend

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On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pierre,

 Thanks for the info. (It seems odd to work on v1 if it is going to be
 replaced.) It would be nice to see that user-feedback if you're
 willing to share it.

I just shared it with you.


 Do I understand right that your v1 upgrade label means features from
 v1 that are not yet in v2?

Exactly.


 Also: is it correct that the right way to contribute to v2 would be to
 start with the master branch of the pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2
 project?

This is correct. Once the project is mature enough it will be moved to
the hotosm organization.


 Thanks
 Dan

 2014-03-04 12:31 GMT+00:00 Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 Thanks Katie for paying attention to the tasking manager and willing
 to contribute.

 First of all, for your information, the development of the tasking
 manager will eventually be switched to v2. Hopefully this spring. In
 priority, we'll try to have the features available in v1 added to v2.
 https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues?labels=feature+request+%28v1+upgrade%29page=1state=open
 https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/V1-Features-List

 The v2 might be too weak for now if you want to contribute but if you
 feel confident enough there's a lot to do.

 On the other hand, the v1 can still be enhanced until we officially
 switch development to v2.
 For example, as proposed by Yanista, I think that working on #192 is
 worth. Even designing the workflow or user interface without coding
 anything would help a lot.

 My last suggestion regarding the tasking manager is analyzing the
 user's feedback. There's a google drive doc I can share. I didn't have
 time to summarize its content and pick ideas from the large amount of
 great feedback written there by several different users. Bugs or
 feature requests could simply be turned into github issues.

 Regards,
 Pierre

 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I will be at OSM London hack weekend in March (8-9).

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Mar_2014

 Curious if any other hot folks will be there?

 I might like to poke at the tasking manager or something else hot-related.

 I see numerous issues and features for tasking manager. Any that would be
 particularly helpful to work on? or other tools?

 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager

 https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2

 Cheers,
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Re: [HOT] London hack weekend

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Hi all,

Thanks Katie for paying attention to the tasking manager and willing
to contribute.

First of all, for your information, the development of the tasking
manager will eventually be switched to v2. Hopefully this spring. In
priority, we'll try to have the features available in v1 added to v2.
https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues?labels=feature+request+%28v1+upgrade%29page=1state=open
https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/V1-Features-List

The v2 might be too weak for now if you want to contribute but if you
feel confident enough there's a lot to do.

On the other hand, the v1 can still be enhanced until we officially
switch development to v2.
For example, as proposed by Yanista, I think that working on #192 is
worth. Even designing the workflow or user interface without coding
anything would help a lot.

My last suggestion regarding the tasking manager is analyzing the
user's feedback. There's a google drive doc I can share. I didn't have
time to summarize its content and pick ideas from the large amount of
great feedback written there by several different users. Bugs or
feature requests could simply be turned into github issues.

Regards,
Pierre

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I will be at OSM London hack weekend in March (8-9).

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Mar_2014

 Curious if any other hot folks will be there?

 I might like to poke at the tasking manager or something else hot-related.

 I see numerous issues and features for tasking manager. Any that would be
 particularly helpful to work on? or other tools?

 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager

 https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2

 Cheers,
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Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch

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I agree that the show tiles for given user on map is slow. It's even
more slow when the number of tiles in the job is big. Performance can
probably be improved.

I think that it's a nice addition though even if it's not efficient.

If I read you correctly, what you are missing is the number of tiles
the user worked on. Am I right? I'll see if I can re-add this.  My
point was to lower the load of the server when rendering the job's
page as much as possible and I think I remember that computing the per
user count was slowing down things.

I just opened two new issues to address this:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issues/189
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issues/190

Thanks for your report.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:33 AM, jonathan jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote:
 Just looked at the latest HOT activation http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/425 and
 went to the Users tab to see what activity there was/is.

 OMG, as I've said many times before this page is unworkable in its new
 design.  I have to wait THREE seconds every time I move my mouse over a
 userid.  This is a wonderful example of an upgrade with emphasis of form
 over function.

 I really like the idea of seeing which tiles people have changed when you
 mouse over but only if it is technically feasible else let's stick with the
 original tried, tested and functional way.

 Is there no way it can be speeded up or the functionality moved to a
 different tab with the original re-instated minus the map?

 Thanks

 Jonathan

 http://bigfatfrog67.me

 On 03/02/2014 23:04, Jonathan wrote:

 Thanks for the work done already.  When you mouse over a userid it
 highlights the tiles they've done, this is a nice feature but there is a
 split second delay, is this due to calculations being done or is it coded
 in?  Because it makes it very difficult to look at and give me a headache,
 also why has the number of tiles completed been removed as a superscript
 next to each name?

 Jonathan

 http://bigfatfrog67.me

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 Hi all,

 It's been a while now that I've started working on a workflow branch (more
 than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to improve the
 user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.

 This branch is the one used for the instance working at
 http://tasks2.hotosm.org.

 I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge the
 work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will also
 eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
 retrieve the data as well.

 For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification,
 the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only mode.
 This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for
 example.
 I also got rid of the validation process because it has been the source of
 problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it. People
 still can invalidate tasks though.

 If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.

 This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me how
 much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2.

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 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 On the other side of for validation it is a well liked feature for
 some of our more traditional partners. (Including those that
 originally funded v2 of the tasking manager)

 It would be nice not to take features away from the 1st version. I
 would suggest we look at ways to encourage validation. I think one way
 for example would be to let people validate more than one square at a
 time.

 Thanks,

 -Kate

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 wrote:
  Hey Harry!
 
  You read my mind.
  Let's try without validation.
 
  I'm pretty sure that the validation feature can be re-added in a near
  future. We just need to find a way to have something easy to understand
 for
  the end user. And I am convinced that if it's simple for the end-user it
  will not require to much effort to implement.
  For the most motivated of us, I think that UI mockups are a neat way to
  brainstorm and share ideas.
 
  Pierre
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote:
 
  Seems people aren't sure about the idea of removing the validation step,
  but I think it's good idea. I'm sure Pierre is suggesting this change
 having
  looked quite carefully at the way people are using the task manager
 system.
 
  The idea of validation was to allow pro-mappers to coordinate the
 process
  of double-checking over the area of a whole job, without too much
  duplication of that double-checking effort, but how many whole jobs has
 this
  happened on? It's easy to see the validation step has not been adopted
 much.
  Either we don't have many pro-mappers with confidence to validate, or
  they're not that interested in doing validation (perhaps because we
 have a
  steady flow of new jobs work on)
 
  And the thing which is always easy to overlook, the feature comes at a
  cost. It makes the system that little bit more complex to understand.
 
  I like the idea of trying without validation. A compromise might be to
  have it as some sort of hidden feature, but then that's effort to
 develop
  something which few users see.
 
  Harry
 
  
  From: Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com
  To: HOT Openstreetmap hot@openstreetmap.org
  Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 18:46
  Subject: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch
 
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  It's been a while now that I've started working on a workflow branch
  (more than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to
 improve
  the user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.
 
  This branch is the one used for the instance working at
  http://tasks2.hotosm.org.
 
  I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge
  the work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will
 also
  eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
  retrieve the data as well.
 
  For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface
 modification,
  the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only
 mode.
  This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for
  example.
  I also got rid of the validation process because it has been the
 source
  of problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it.
  People still can invalidate tasks though.
 
  If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.
 
  This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me
  how much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2.
 
  Regards,
  Pierre
 
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Hi all,

It's been a while now that I've started working on a workflow branch
(more than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to improve
the user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.

This branch is the one used for the instance working at
http://tasks2.hotosm.org.

I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge
the work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will also
eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
retrieve the data as well.

For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification,
the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only
mode. This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for
example.
I also got rid of the validation process because it has been the source
of problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it.
People still can invalidate tasks though.

If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.

This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me how
much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2.

Regards,
Pierre

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Hi all,

Sorry I didn't answer to the messages that evoke the tasking manager.
I'm not giving up with its development at all. I'm just having a hard
time finding time and energy to contribute as much as I would like to.
I hope I can get more free time to fix some issues and answer the
pending emails.

Pierre

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Thanks Drazen for the update, and apologies for missing the meeting. Looking
 at what was discussed, I had few comments .. perhaps we can discuss here.

 First regarding setting priorities, there are actually a couple ways we can
 group issues on github to prioritize. We can either assign labels, and/or
 assign milestones to issues. I think this would be fairly straightforward.

 For LearnOSM, I think it's well overdue to have a discussion group
 specifically of translators and coordinators. If there's been a
 restructuring of the English version, then certainly need to get the word
 out and help transition. Finding a solution for image handling is something
 we can do collectively, and maybe develop a good structured request to
 prose.io devs.

 Finally, OSM Tasking Manager version 2. Would be really good to hear from
 pgiraud about how much work is left. Basically, which of these issues need
 to completed to get functionality up to v1, and retire v1
 https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues. There's a lot of
 interest in building on OSMTM coming up, and we need to know where and how
 to focus efforts.

 Cheers
 Mikel
 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


 On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:51 AM, Dražen Odobašić
 dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hr wrote:

 Tech WG IRC meeting X+5: Summary

 ybon:
   * fixed gray problem with DEM in the HDM style

 clara:
   * some old postings on the hot.osm don't display the images correctly,
 working
 on that
   * she can spend some time in setting the site up to be multilingual.
 Starting
 with French, but also allowing other languages in future
   * requires help of a person who will do the translation of the relevant
 bits
 of text
   * proposes to update (hot.osm) Get Involved page with more technical
 details
 about each project developed by HOT, so that potential contributors can
 easily
 see if they can work with specific technology stack

 skorasaurus:
   * will try to tweek hdm-josm style in the coming weeks,  as there are a
 few
 hanging issues for the HDM-JOSM and HDM-carto, but none of them are
 critical.

 pirzen:
   * Dakar french translation sprint of LearnOsm in november. Intermediate
 and
 advanced sections are now available. See http://learnosm.org/fr/.
   * Restructuration of the english version was started but not announced on
 HOT
   * we are still faced with LearnOsm and Github issues for Translators : No
 progress made and no easy solution to upload images. Neither Github or
 Prose.io
 offer to upload images via the web
   * announces that OsmContributorStatistic module is now available on github
 :
 https://github.com/pierzen/osm-contributor-stats. It provide historic
 statistic
 for bbox and dates.
   * reports an interesting statistic, comparing Haiti and Haiyan response:
 * Haiti 2010 - first 10 days, 304 contributors, 600k edits
 * Haiyan 2013 - first 11 days, 1200 contributors, 3mil edits

 sev_hotosm:
   * would like to see development version of TMv2 back online to test its
 new
 functionalities
   * wonders if TWG is going to help with TMv2 development
   * proposes to somehow prioritize or vote on the projects issues to give
 potential developers a clear goal


 dodobas:
   * volunteers to keep TWG wiki page updated
   * reports that at the moment there is no apparent load on amelia, after
 main
 web site migration
   * will try to get TMv2 dev version up an running (best to scrap current
 instance, and start over)
   * concerned about too many active TMs, specifically tasks.hotosm.org and
 tasks2.hotosm.org
 * can we somehow merge data from tasks2 to tasks... once we migrate
 tasks
 from Amazon to amelia, or just discard it ?
   * proposes that we should  write better documentation per project, i.e.
 create
 a 'how to help' section for each project that would at least contain links
 to
 the documentation of the modules/libraries that the project is using, and
 prepare coding guidelines
   * proposes to advertise/advocate HOT project in the local Python user
 meetings/Hackathons/... (once we have create 'community participation'
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting X+4

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Hey, Dražen,

It looks like no one answered your question.
I agree that it would be reasonable to postpone this tech chat.
Plus there is a mumble chat at the same time.

Pierre

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Dražen Odobašić
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 On 13.11.2013 14:22, Dražen Odobašić wrote:
 Hiyas,

 A short reminder that the next Tech WG meeting is scheduled on #hot IRC at 
 17:00
 UTC, next Monday (18.11.2013.)


 If you have any questions, raise them on this thread, or during check-ins on 
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 In case you need a time converter, this one is pretty good...
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html


 As it's been a crazy week and maybe we should postpone the tech chat for the
 next Monday (25.11). I'm still going to hang around on IRC/Mumble, but I think
 we still have more important tasks to our hand. What do you think?


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You might be interested in taking a look at the dev instance. It shows
a different interface which is I hope a bit clearer.
Give it a 2 ou 3 minutes try.
http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org/

Feedback welcome.

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Re: [HOT] New task manager job on the dev server

[Pierre Giraud]

Please note that in this new version the splitting is limited to one level in 
order to avoid too deep splits.
If you think that we should let users split a bit more tell me and I'll change 
that.

Pierre



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 Le 17 nov. 2013 à 00:34, Dan Marsh danrok.g...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 Now I see a split button!
 
 
 On 16 November 2013 23:33, Dan Marsh danrok.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks good, but there's no way to split tasks.
 
 
 On 16 November 2013 20:21, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would add that even if it's on the dev server, this job is for real!
 Please lock a tile, trace elements in your favorite editor, mark the
 task as done.
 
 And report any bug on the new interface.
 
 Thanks,
 Pierre
 
 On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
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  Hello everyone,
 
  We would like to start testing out the development version of the task
  manager.  In order to do this I have created a fairly large job
  covering tracing in rural areas of Antique Province in the western
  Philippines.  We have already done another job which covers the cities
  along the northern coast so the main goal on this one is to focus on
  the areas further inland just to the south of these cities.
 
  http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org/job/361
 
  Since this is the development version of the server it is a little
  different than people will be used to but it should be largely
  similar.  Play around with it a little bit and if you find anything
  broken please report it to pierregiraud on the #hot IRC channel.
 
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Re: [HOT] Detailed mapping of Kalemie/DRC

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I've spent some time to manually update the job so that it takes
Laurent's requested area into account.
It shouldn't have break anything. Please don't hesitate to ask if you
encounter problems.

Pierre

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Laurent Savaete
laurent.sava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pierre,

 thanks a lot for setting up the job! This is amazing! The square is indeed
 way bigger than we need. We only need the eastern part, the urban sprawl
 basically. I'm sending you the shapefile in a private email, so you can
 narrow down the requested area.

 Harry,
 as mentioned above, no problem with the low-res imagery. As a side note, the
 river actually flows *out* of the lake, ie: east to west. It's a pretty
 strange sight, being on the beach by the lake, as it really feels like the
 sea is flowing into a river :)


 2013/9/23 Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com

 I just set up a new Job: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/312
 If you think that the area currently defined as a big square should be
 set more precisely don't hesitate to send me the shapefile.
 Also, don't hesitate to ask if the description has to be modified.

 Pierre

 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Laurent Savaete
 laurent.sava...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello again HOTties,
 
  Following up on my previous email, I now have a working tilemill setup
  which
  allows me to print out great maps (using HDM-cartoCSS) of the area.
  As I mentioned earlier, cholera is hitting the city regularly, and we
  have
  now entered the epidemic stage, with over 40 cases last week.
  MSF is planning a cholera vaccination campaign, and the logistics
  manager
  just asked me if I could help print out maps for his vaccination team
  leaders to plan their job (for tomorrow...).
  The OSM map is getting pretty good, but for this specific action, over
  70
  teams will be going door to door delivering oral vaccines, so getting as
  much detail as possible is key to success.
  Ideally, we'd like to give each team a printed map of the area they're
  working on, showing landmarks, streets/paths and possibly each house.
  The areas we're targetting are both sides of the river Lukuga, reaching
  pretty far north, roughly
  http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/hot-hdm-style_852#14/-5.9019/29.1829
  It would be amazing if we could set up a task manager job for this (I
  can
  send a more accurate shapefile for the area to cover), and get all
  buildings
  and streets added to the map. I'll be adding landmarks from field
  surveys to
  improve the result.
 
  Let me know if you think this is possible.
  Thanks a lot!
  Laurent
 
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Re: [HOT] Detailed mapping of Kalemie/DRC

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I just set up a new Job: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/312
If you think that the area currently defined as a big square should be
set more precisely don't hesitate to send me the shapefile.
Also, don't hesitate to ask if the description has to be modified.

Pierre

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Laurent Savaete
laurent.sava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello again HOTties,

 Following up on my previous email, I now have a working tilemill setup which
 allows me to print out great maps (using HDM-cartoCSS) of the area.
 As I mentioned earlier, cholera is hitting the city regularly, and we have
 now entered the epidemic stage, with over 40 cases last week.
 MSF is planning a cholera vaccination campaign, and the logistics manager
 just asked me if I could help print out maps for his vaccination team
 leaders to plan their job (for tomorrow...).
 The OSM map is getting pretty good, but for this specific action, over 70
 teams will be going door to door delivering oral vaccines, so getting as
 much detail as possible is key to success.
 Ideally, we'd like to give each team a printed map of the area they're
 working on, showing landmarks, streets/paths and possibly each house.
 The areas we're targetting are both sides of the river Lukuga, reaching
 pretty far north, roughly
 http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/hot-hdm-style_852#14/-5.9019/29.1829
 It would be amazing if we could set up a task manager job for this (I can
 send a more accurate shapefile for the area to cover), and get all buildings
 and streets added to the map. I'll be adding landmarks from field surveys to
 improve the result.

 Let me know if you think this is possible.
 Thanks a lot!
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Re: [HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti - newbie questions...

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On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM, tim timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello -

 I am a novice, more or less, and I was hoping to help on the tasks set up
 for Northern Haiti by Robert Banick.

 Firstly, when I select a task from the tasking manager and then choose
 either the editor iD or Potlatch, I do not see any bounding box representing
 the area I have selected in the tasking manager - is there a way to see
 this?

That's a really good question. I think we have a usability issue here.

This is unfortunately not possible in iD.
In potlatch however, you can import an .osm file as vector file to be
displayed on on top of the map. For this, in the tasking manager, you
can right-click on the .osm link to copy the link address. Then in
Potlatch, open the background menu, then click the vector file
button. You should then be able to paste the link you copied earlier
in the dedicated field.
This is not straight forward but should work.

For iD, it looks like it should be possible to do it with a GPX file.
The tasking manager should probably also support GPX export. Or maybe
iD should support .osm import.
You can still find ways to convert .osm to .gpx if you prefer to use iD.


 Secondly, is there a way to turn on and off the edit layer so one can
 see/review the underlying feature that has been traced (either by oneself or
 someone else).

I'm not sure I understand correctly. Can you elaborate?

But be careful, data may not be rendered depending on the map styling.
For example, crosswalk may not be visible on openstreetmap.org default
layer though they're in the OSM database.
So for the validation process, it's important to see the real vector data.


 FYI I am currently working via Chome or Linux platforms if that makes any
 difference.

 Thanks,
 TIm

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Re: [HOT] Floods in Khartoum, Sudan

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Fixed.
Actually, the problem was due to a not correctly closed html tag in the
extra instructions.

To those who worked on this job: please mark the task you worked on as done.

Thanks,
Pierre


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.comwrote:

 It looks like I get the same problem. Will try to fix this as soon as
 possible.

 Thanks for the report.


 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.comwrote:

 Was it the first time you tried to mark a task as done?
 Anyone else experiencing the same problem?


 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I mapped a square in Khartoum, under task 303. But I couldn't get the
 Mark task as done button to respond to my click so it is not marked.

 I've filed a bug report here describing it not working:
 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issues/151
 Possibly my own fault but hopefully someone can fix/clarify?

 Best
 Dan


 2013/8/25 Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Rainy days last week over Khartoum. New HOT Tasking Manager jobs have
 been made from a check between the Formosat 2 August 8 9 analysis
 made by 
 UNOSAThttp://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/SD/FL20130806SDN/UNOSAT_A3_Khartoum_Floods_FS2_20130809_Landscape.pdf,
 and NextView panchromatic imagery from August 11 (the situation in the hit
 areas did not improve fron taht time due to the heavy rains). This imagery
 is available through the TM jobs, once agreed the License Aknowledgement .
 Offset exist but have been informed in the offset DB pluging for JOSM:

- Task Manager Job 303 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/303
- Task Manager Job 304 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/304

 Areas to be mapped are popular, remote neighborhoods. Please map all
 the streets and buildings in the task area in order to show the pre-crisis
 situation, on which damage analysis will be done.

 All the information is accessible from here:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_Sudan_floods and the TM jobs
 themselves

 Thanks for those who have already participated and those who will join!

 Sincerely,

   [image: logo]
   *Severin Menard**
 *
 Haiti tel: (+509) 43 32 85 81
 France tel: (+33) 9 70 46 75 95
 France tel: (+33) 6 95 39 42 95
 Skype ID: severin.menard

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 2013/8/19 nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.com


 Hi all,

 Below is an email related to the World Humanitairian Day of this
 19-Aug 2013 by Severin which has been posted on HOT and French speaking
 talk lists.
 Have a quick read and join this mapping effort focused in Khartum.

 Excellent day,
 Nicolas


 -
 Mapping flooded Khartum on the World Humanitarian Day 19-Aug 2013.


 Hi,

 19-Aug 2013 is the world humanitarian day [1]

 Within this initiative, we are proposing to join a remote mapping
 campaign targetting the most flooded areas of Khartoum (Sudan).
 Details on this crisis are available through Relief Web: flood report
 [2], sudan weekly report [3].
 More info about the HOT response on the English [4] and French [5]
 wiki page for this disaster.

 3 Jobs have been set on the HOT Tasking manager:
 - Task no 289 [5]: a few tasks are left with mapping of streets and
 buildings
 - Task no 292 [6]: neighborhoods located South East from the town
 where streets only have to be mapped in this first task.
 - Task no 293 [7]: neighborhoods located West from the River where
 streets/ roads only have to be mapped given the size of the area

 Thanks in advance for all of those who will be part of this mapping
 Best,

 Severin


 [1] = http://worldhumanitarianday.org/fr
 [2] = http://reliefweb.int/map/sudan/sudan-flash-floods-06-aug-2013
 [3] =
 http://reliefweb.int/report/sudan/sudan-humanitarian-bulletin-issue-32-5-11-august-2013
 [4] = http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_Sudan_floods
 [5] = http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/289
 [6] = http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/292
 [7] = http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/293




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 From: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:05 PM
 Subject: Floods in Khartoum, Sudan
 To: hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org


 Hi,

 The floods are still hitting Khartoum. Thanks for those who
 participated to the http

Re: [HOT] How to un-validate your own work?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Unfortunately there's no way to revert a validation without modifying
the database by hand. Done.
Thanks for the help.

Pierre

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Niklas Backman
niklas.back...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,
 This is a newbie question, but how do I un-validate an area I have just
 mapped?

 The task name is http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/292

 I traced the eastern green/validated area right in the center of Um Dawaban.
 You can see it on the map page. The western part of the city center was
 validated by someone else.

 I accidentally clicked the Validate button. I'd like someone more
 experienced to check/comment on my work.

 Glad to help and greetings from Oslo,
 Niklas

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Re: [HOT] HIU Tile Caches

[Pierre GIRAUD]

http://tareas.openstreetmap.org.ar/

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi

 I might have missed this earlier ... is there a link to the Argentinian
 Tasking Manager install?

 Thanks
 Mikel

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

 
 From: siamon siamonj...@gmail.com
 To: hot@openstreetmap.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [HOT] HIU Tile Caches

 I met the Argentinian OSM Community in April during the FOSS4G+Sotm they
 organized in the National Geographic Institute in Buenos Aires. I wanted to
 make a blogpost in various languages but unfortunately did not find the time
 to do it (you can see my presentation here in terrible Spanish). OSM
 Argentina is part of the Spanish-speaking Geoinquietos network, is quite
 active regarding disaster response, as it can be seen through the topics of
 the jobs in their Tasking Manager. I understand the need of a local
 response, but please do not hesitate to tell the HOT community if you need
 quick help to achieve an urgent job.



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 Sent from the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap (HOT) mailing list archive at
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[HOT] Job with restricted access to a list of given users

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Joshua,

You recently created a new job in the HOT tasking manager.
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/277

It looks like this job is supposed to be restricted to list of chosen
users (Please don't map unless you are part of the project.). You
are probably not aware but the tasking manager can already be
configured to support private jobs. It's kinda hidden but I would be
happy to tell you how to define the users that are allowed to work on
a job.

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Re: [HOT] Job with restricted access to a list of given users

[Pierre GIRAUD]

So the idea is to have a job set as private on the one hand and a
whitelist of users for this job on the other hand.

Here's the procedure :
 - go to the job's edit form page : http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/{job_id}/edit,
 - ensure that the job is private by checking the corresponding
checkbox in the advanced options,
 - go to the job's users list page : http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/{job_id}/users,
 - select a user in the list and press the add button.

You're done. The job should only be accessible to the users in the
above list and to admin users.

If the user you're looking for isn't in the list, it may be because
this user never logged to the tasking manager.
It's possible to create users in advance but I would not recommend
doing so to avoid problems due to typos.

Last note: the tasking manager doesn't currently support changes in
OSM usernames.

Regards,
Pierre

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:39 PM,  jcampbell@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pierre,

 That would be great, I would like to know how to limit mapping access to 
 certain users. Could be very helpful in the future.

 One goal of this task is to expose more people at the State Department and 
 USAID to OSM.  Given that we are reaching out to new people, I wasn't sure 
 exactly who was going to participate, so limiting beforehand wouldn't have 
 been helpful.

 Regards,
 Josh

 Joshua S. Campbell

 Sent from a mobile, please excuse brevity and typos

 On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:28 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Joshua,

 You recently created a new job in the HOT tasking manager.
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/277

 It looks like this job is supposed to be restricted to list of chosen
 users (Please don't map unless you are part of the project.). You
 are probably not aware but the tasking manager can already be
 configured to support private jobs. It's kinda hidden but I would be
 happy to tell you how to define the users that are allowed to work on
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Re: [HOT] Indonesia Earthquake magnitude 6.1 (Update in Response)

[Pierre GIRAUD]

You probably meant
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/272

On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have created a task: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/268 for the
 district of Ketol which has been the worst affected. Please help us in
 mapping all the roads and buildings in the area.

 I also have geotagged photos and a KML from BNPB (disaster management
 agency). If someone can use them for mapping please let me know so I
 can email them to you.

 Unfortunately I'm going to be traveling from 0700 GMT tomorrow until
 1500 on Monday to return the US. If you have questions please post
 them to the HOT list and I will get to them as I can and also others
 from our team in Indonesia read the list and can answer as well.

 Best,

 -Kate

 On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Earlier today there was a 6.1 magnitude earthquake in Indonesia the
 epicenter is the link below.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=4.6978mlon=96.6871zoom=16layers=M

 Although 6.1 is reasonably powerful, Indonesia experiences many earthquakes
 and so the damage from this one is somewhat moderate.  Current reports are
 between 20 and 100 fatalities so far with some people displaced from
 collapsed buildings.  The response will likely be local and not involve the
 international community, but we have started mapping roads in the areas just
 as a precaution, and we continue to monitor the situation.

 Earthquakes such as this can be the precursor to a later, much larger,
 aftershock.  So a bit of mapping now might be very useful if a later such
 earthquake does occur.  Right now the focus is on roads, and bridges.  Some
 building tracing of key buildings (large buildings, mosques, etc) is useful,
 but complete building coverage is probably overkill.

 The larger town of Takengon to the east of the epicenter suffered minimal
 damage, but this is the nearest larger town, so it may be worth tracing
 streets there if this becomes a disaster response headquarters.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=4.6234lon=96.8518zoom=14layers=M

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Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

[Pierre GIRAUD]

 links to the data of which we have the permission;
 you can find it on the authorization in the attachment. Pascal also promised
 us to give us, as soon as possible (after their verification), the latest
 version of the data of the road network of the CAR and the DRC.



 Best regards,



 Jorieke


 Okay... the attachment is not working... but you will find the
 authorisations soon on the wiki!






 2013/3/25 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr


 Hi Jorieke



 This is very interesting to have the possibility to collaborate with
 people on the ground and use eventually imports to have a better map. In the
 context of humanitarian activations, it is important to work in a coordinate
 manner and discuss before such imports are done.



 First, we have to be careful and before importing any data into OSM, we
 have to follow a strict procedure to assure that the data is published with
 a license compatible with ODbL. We have to know the original producer of the
 data, how it was collected, and evaluate how good is the georeferencing. We
 also have to validate if the license is compatible.  Do you have any
 information about that?



 I coordinate the current activation in DR Congo with Claire Halleux. I
 would like to look at the data that is contained in these files and see how
 it can help us for the DRC Activation before anything is setup with these
 files.


 Could you please send me a copy of this data?



 Pierre

 

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 Envoyé le : Lundi 25 mars 2013 12h53
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the
 rebels



 Hi everybody,



 Here a message from (a part) of the Eurosha-team who was working till the
 end of December in the Central-African Republic, and had to move because of
 the security situation. We are really glad to see your activity on the
 current crisis in the Central-African Republic.



 At this moment we are working in Cameroon, for Cameroon, but of course
 also for the CAR! Last week we obtained the permission to use the data of
 the World Recourse Institute (WRI) for the CAR and the DRC. This data
 (localities, road network, etc) can be very useful for the humanitarian
 actors on the field at this moment. For this reason we are now busy with
 setting up as soon as possible the importation process. And it is in this we
 need some help of you guys.



 Because we don’t really like the massive data importations as this would
 conflict with the existing data and could get very messy, we propose a
 crowd-sourced way to verify and import the data using the tasking manager.
 We have converted the existing shapefiles to OSM-XML format already and have
 setup a service that can serve the data into JOSM as follows:



 http://www.osmsharp.com:815/data/16748/10966/15/matrix.osm



 The data served is just a test area; the real converted data will be there
 soon. A request like this will return only data inside the requested tile.
 Any existing OSM file can very quickly be served on the site this way.

 We think it would be a very efficient and nice way to process and convert
 the data into OSM using the tasking manager if we could add a field or link
 to it that could load the data from the above url straight into JOSM or
 provide it as a download link in the task itself.



 Using this method all the humanitarian-relevant data can be converted and
 imported very quickly. But this means we need help from somebody to modify
 the tasking manager just a little bit to make this possible.



 Thanks,



 The EUROSHA TEAM






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Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

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 to
  leave the country due this political crisis).
  Specific TM jobs have been created and partially
  completed, and an import process of the data
  provided by some stakeholders (eg UNICEF) have
  started.
 
  I just updated the OSM wiki page for CAR
 
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Central_African_Republic 
  to
  coordinate the mapping goals as of today.
  Finishing both Bangui and secondary towns is one
  of them. Regarding the road network, I changed
  the former proposed typology by the one created
  for the Mali crisis. Indeed, the really
  impressive work made by the Hotties in charge of
  this activation apart, I really like this road
  typology that, IMHO, could be extended to the
  rest of Africa and maybe all
  the developing countries (what is the opinion
  from people experienced in other continents?).
  To involve more French speaking people, I
  translated it today. Pierre, might be good if
  you have a look on it to be sure I did not make
  any confusion.
 
  Some existing data, surveyed in the field by
  various humanitarian organizations, will be
  imported soon, providing health centers,
  schools, and watsan objects.
 
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Re: [HOT] Creating job on Tasking Manager with accurate border specification

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I thought that the use an OSM relation ID was not used or very little. I
seems like I was wrong.

Can you point me to the relation you just created?

Pierre


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Sommerville 
ryan.sommervi...@gmail.com wrote:

 We're creating a job for the Kathmandu Valley and want to use the
 perimeter of all the wards that make up the valley. This cannot be
 accurately traced using the Draw it yourself option.

 When using OSM relation ID our knowledge/experience has led us to define
 the border of the area as a way but this does not work.

 Could you please advise how we create a relation from the way?

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Re: [HOT] A big cake for the Task Manager

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This is great.

But it could be even better. To me, this means that a lot of users came to
see what it was all about just by curiosity.
Let's make them help us in real.

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 6 févr. 2013 à 18:44, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit :

Pierre Giraud announced on the #hot irc that 2190 users logged in at least
once on the Task Manager.

Let's prepare a big cake for the Task Manager ! Thanks Pierre.

Pierre

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Interchange

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Agreed, there is a bunch of good ideas to get from PyBossa for new features
or enhancements for the HOT (but not only) Tasking Manager.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote:

 Oh yeah. I came across Pybossa the other day for some other reason (and
 http://crowdcrafting.org which I guess is a site deploying it in various
 ways)

 Another one to add to your list is http://mapmill.org (the one we used
 for Sandy) which is closer to Pybossa style tasks.

 They are more mini microtask thing than the HOT tasks have tended to be,
 but that doesn't mean the ideas can't brought together somehow in a useful
 way. Simpler aerial imagery assessment microtasks could provide data used
 to set up boundaries for the HOT tasking manager perhaps. If nothing else
 this could be inspiration for new features of the HOT tasking manager.

 Harry

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 *Subject:* [HOT] Tasking Manager Interchange

 In the interest of expanding everyone's horizons... :)

 I'm wondering if the tasking manager is able to provide some kind of feed.
 The SBTF is getting ready to use PyBossa (
 http://blog.okfn.org/category/okf-projects/pybossa/) as a microtasking
 manager. I was thinking that we could provide a list of volunteer
 opportunities. The SBTF has a lot of downtime where we lose engagement with
 volunteers. This would expand their understanding and provide needed work.

 We could just point people to the OSM TaskMgr, but this raises a larger
 point. We might be able to generate much greater interest and capacity by
 unifying the experience a bit.

 Cross pollination of volunteers is a great thing, as their enthusiasm will
 spread outward.

 What's the landscape?

 OSM Tasking Manager
 PyBossa
 Frontline SMS
 Ushahidi
 Wikimapia
 Elva
 Crisis Tracker
 Sahana/Eden

 Others?

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Interchange

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And Kort (which I played a lot with recently).


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Also there is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maproulette

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

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 Agreed, there is a bunch of good ideas to get from PyBossa for new
 features or enhancements for the HOT (but not only) Tasking Manager.


 On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote:

 Oh yeah. I came across Pybossa the other day for some other reason (and
 http://crowdcrafting.org which I guess is a site deploying it in various
 ways)

 Another one to add to your list is http://mapmill.org (the one we used
 for Sandy) which is closer to Pybossa style tasks.

 They are more mini microtask thing than the HOT tasks have tended to be,
 but that doesn't mean the ideas can't brought together somehow in a useful
 way. Simpler aerial imagery assessment microtasks could provide data used
 to set up boundaries for the HOT tasking manager perhaps. If nothing else
 this could be inspiration for new features of the HOT tasking manager.

 Harry

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 *Subject:* [HOT] Tasking Manager Interchange

  In the interest of expanding everyone's horizons... :)

 I'm wondering if the tasking manager is able to provide some kind of feed.
 The SBTF is getting ready to use PyBossa (
 http://blog.okfn.org/category/okf-projects/pybossa/) as a microtasking
 manager. I was thinking that we could provide a list of volunteer
 opportunities. The SBTF has a lot of downtime where we lose engagement with
 volunteers. This would expand their understanding and provide needed work.

 We could just point people to the OSM TaskMgr, but this raises a larger
 point. We might be able to generate much greater interest and capacity by
 unifying the experience a bit.

 Cross pollination of volunteers is a great thing, as their enthusiasm will
 spread outward.

 What's the landscape?

 OSM Tasking Manager
 PyBossa
 Frontline SMS
 Ushahidi
 Wikimapia
 Elva
 Crisis Tracker
 Sahana/Eden

 Others?

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Re: [HOT] so many jobs and so less mappers

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Sorry for the confusion but which page and problem are you referring to?

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 30 janv. 2013 à 21:38, Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu a écrit :

Although I'm following HOT for a while now I have never seen that page.

I'll put in some time to fix the problem :)

Greets,
Floris


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote:

 Yeah, there was 18 'featured jobs'.  I agree it's too many.

 So I've gone through and un-featured all of those which have hit 100%, and
 also all of those which were 'archived' state (meaning only admins could
 see them anyway I suppose)

 That thins it down a lot:
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured


 Of course all of those jobs are still available to view and work on (The
 100% ones can still be validated) ...and if I've done a bad thing then
 another administrator can 'feature' them again.

 Harry




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 why are not the really important job under  featured Jobs?

 maybe than more mappers are active

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Re: [HOT] so many jobs and so less mappers

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Le 29 janv. 2013 à 18:54, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi Norman,

I was thinking about featured jobs today myself, mainly because we've been
getting great feedback from our partners on the Syria activation and I
wanted to promote the jobs I'd created :)

I think I'll mark them as featured, unless anyone objects, but I think
there's more we could be asking of the Tasking Manager that could help us;
sorting by completeness, number of active users, time open, etc. If nothing
else, we should be able to sort the jobs into a more understandable list of
what needs to be done. I'll put in a feature request.


Please do.
This doesn't seem to difficult to write code for that.
And please provide interface mockups if you feel courageous enough. It
doesn't have to be pretty.

I've also got a feeling that there could be plenty of jobs created for
training that could now be removed.

Cheers, Joseph


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 maybe than more mappers are active

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Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required

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On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Sam Larsen samlars...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi,

 
 That was something quite confusing about the task manager: you had to
 login to do *anything*. I see on the dev server, that it's still a
 requirement to login to browse the tasks. Is this really necessary? It
 would be nicer if a login would be *only* necessary for write actions,
 like locking/commenting ?
 
 
 You're right. Accessing a tile in read-only mode shouldn't require a
 login.
 I'm not sure a user should be able to access a job without being logged
 in.
 
 

 One thing i have come to realise after the fantastic!! updates to the
 tasking manager over the last year or so (big pat on the back to all
 involved) is that it is increasingly becoming easier to contribute to OSM
 via the HOT tasking manager than through OSM itself!  This really outlines
 how effective the tasking manager has become, especially by providing the
 mechanism to describe specific mapping tasks that need to be done and
 guiding mappers (new or old) through the process of making an edit.  OSM is
 sometimes (mostly?) overwhelming for new mappers and i can see the tasking
 manager being a really useful tool to get new mappers involved.
 For that reason, i would request that we show much more data to non-logged
 in users (i.e. potential OSM/HOT contributors).  I realise this might not
 be straightforward in terms of how it is technically implemented, but i
 think it's needed all the same.  Being able to access the entire platform
 read-only will help to tell the story of how we map a place to new mappers
 - except for maybe HOT acquired imagery urls or any other sensitive
 information on the system.  The 'Take the Tour' addition to the
 platform definitely helps towards this goal, but i feel it is a bit general
 and it would be nice to show *exactly* what we are doing *now*.
 I'm sure there are lots of people who would be more interested in
 contributing to a humanitarian project than an IT project; let's not kid
 ourselves, sometimes people see OSM as an IT / Geeky crowd - many are put
 off by this.  That's where i think HOT can offer them a middle ground, they
 get the opportunity to help a humanitarian cause while at the same time
 becoming more OSM aware.  Being able to link to a task (especially
 immediately after a major disaster) on a social networking platform to show
 people this what we are doing to help in a clear way (which is what the TM
 provides) will enable them to explore our work and see that it's not
 actually that complicated and they can get involved.
 I think the next step after that is to integrate a new simplified
 JavaScript editor (this is where i should pull my socks up and contribute
 to something like ID[1] ;) for the kinds of editing that we do.

 Aside from all my outstanding requests, i am really impressed with the
 rapid work on the platform, it seems every time i use it there is a new
 helpful feature.  Thanks to all who have contributed.


All who have contributed == 95% me   ;-)
Patches and contributions are welcome.



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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:

 Hi Pierre,

 I think it is a requirement to validate tiles. Yes we haven't figured
 out how to get people to do it, but I think that is an instructional
 issue.  Perhaps if the validators were given access to a greater
 number of tiles to validate at a time. Maybe they could pick multiple
 tiles at once.


To me, currently, there's no real distinction between mappers and
validators. Tiles may be validated by accident. And nobody is able to put
them back to the flow.
I prefer to simplify things till we have a validation process correctly
figured.


 Long-term I'd like to see the workflow so that you can define the
 steps a task goes through. Meaning I could say I want all squares to
 go through the following phases. Map the roads - map the buildings -
 validate. Then another task could have a complete different set of
 phases. Map the residential areas - map the water ways - map the
 roads.


You think about a task-list for each tile, right?
But you also think about phases. Does it mean that you imagine things to be
done in given order?



 We haven't quite figured out the validation yet, but it is important.


I agree that it's important since we the data to be as qualitative as
possible.



 -Kate

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  Ok, I've gone further with my experimentations.
  I'm really not satisfied with the validation workflow and I've tried to
  change it completely.
 
  I'm convinced that it's not really a requirement to be able to validate
  tiles. It appears (looking at the statistics) that very few tiles have
 been
  marked as valid in the past jobs. I suppose that's because validation
 itself
  is not easy. It's easy to tell that a tile in invalid though. Thus, it's
  really a requirement to be able to invalidate tiles.
  In the version currently installed on dev server, the validation button
  doesn't exist anymore. The tiles can now take only 2 statuses done or
 not
  done. Colors have been changed too. They're now more common to
 people's
  habits and they match the buttons colors too.
  Also, there's no need to lock a tile to tell it's invalidate. I think
 this
  should be a quick process.
 
  I intend to add a message box. Users could for example receive messages
  from the application to be informed that a tile they previously worked on
  has been invalidated.
 
  One other thing I changed is the users tab. I simplified things by
  removing the numbers telling how much the users worked. As someone
 already
  told me, this is not a race. We don't need a winner.
  What I added though is the availability to see which tiles the given
 users
  worked on by highlighting them on the map. This feature has been asked
  several times.
 
  Once again, feedbacks are welcome.
 
 
  On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Augustin Doury 
 augustin.do...@hotosm.org
  wrote:
 
  Sorry for this second email, I just want to add something about this
 point
  of my last email :
 
  1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of
 17,
  maybe not more than once.
   sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the
 mapping.
 
  On the users page,the number of tiles done by a contributor could
 depend
  on the size of the tiles he has done :
  - if he did not split tiles, show 1 for one tile
  - if he did, show 0,25 for one tile which is from a tile splitted
 once.
 
  Augustin
 
  On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Augustin Doury
  augustin.do...@hotosm.org wrote:
 
  Hi! Couple things I realized this morning using the Tasking Manager :
 
  1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of
  17, maybe not more than once.
   sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the
   mapping.
 
  2) Make it easy to find which task you're working on,
  In the current version all current worked on tasks are highlighted in
  orange, maybe the task linked to your OSM account could be highlighted
 in an
  other colour.
 
  3) It's too easy to delete a task, it could be great to add one step
 more
  for security checking
 
  Great to imagine how the new version will be!
 
  Augustin
 
 
  On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Augustin Doury
  augustin.do...@hotosm.org wrote:
 
  Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments :
 
  On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD 
 pierre.gir...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
   - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to
 be
  shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as
 reference in a
  discussion between mappers,
 
 
   this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want to
   have their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it like
 every
   week.
 
 
 
   - comments are now required when marking a task as done or
  (in)validating one,
 
 
   great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain
 what
   kind of comment