Re: FTP from Unix FS

2006-06-09 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
The 'cd' command not only changes the current working directory,
it also changes between the MVS Data Set and the UNIX Files file
systems.

cd FOO.BAR changes to the MVS side and give access to all FOO.BAR.* 
data sets

cd /foo/bar changes to the UNIX file system and gives access to
everything
in directory /foo/bar

cd yxz will either change directory or add another qualifier depending
on where you currently are.


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[no subject]

2006-06-09 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
MPF message suppression does not suppress the production of
messages but suppresses them from being displayed at any 
console. The messages are still send to the hardcopy log
(SYSLOG or OPERLOG).


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Re: CBU uprgade / kneecapped

2006-06-09 Thread Horst Sinram
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:36:47 -0500, J Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Does anyone know what they do to kneecap a processor ? Does this affect 
 just the
regular engines or does it kneecap the coupling engines also ?

Jerry, this is described in the CBU User's Guide (on
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/hwpdf/z900.html):
quote
The LIC will automatically and concurrently degrade the performance of 
the system approximately 85% ±5% so the customer is left with 10-20% 
performance. The system will still function as the CBU model with the same 
number of engines but at a much lower performance level. 
Example: 
Base Model = Performance B 
CBU Model = Performance B + C 
CBU expired active kneecap performance = (B + C) × 15% (±5%)
/quote

On a 2064 the ICF's won't be affected, I think.
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Re: CBU uprgade / kneecapped

2006-06-09 Thread Horst Sinram
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 03:27:51 -0500, Horst Sinram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On a 2064 the ICF's won't be affected, I think.

Too fast:-( They *are* kneecapped as well.
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Re: Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years later

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Davies
VHS (victory) and BETAMAX (failure) story is about marketing and vendors
trying to exert too much control. 
In early sell through days the pricing dynamics were way different, Buying
an early AVHS fil coukld cost 70 or 80 gbp in the early days.
Also over fifty percent of titles in sell through with Cert 18 (in the UK).
The 'ahen' adult industry was quick to exploit new nedia well. Sony did not
want that kind of stuff on 'their' cartridges (and I though they were
consumer items).
Upshot was a lot of stuff was available on VHS that was not on Betamax and
it was that stuff that customers were buying at premium prices. No onew was
going to pay that amount of money for 'non premium' content'.
Foothold established, or rather feet blown off by well aimed shot from Sony
- game over.

Not much has changed has it - Blu-ray/Ipod. HD telly anyone ?

Numerous parallels in M/F world as well - one example of which is the
subject of this thread. Wow got back on on topic..

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Re: MPF message suppression

2006-06-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The messages are still send to the hardcopy log
(SYSLOG or OPERLOG).

IIRC, there are options to suppress them from SYSLOG and OPERLOG, as well.

I recall a SYSPROG who did that to me almost 20 years ago.

I believe the options were:

SYSLOG(y/n)

and:

OPERLOG(y/n)


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Re: MPF message muppression

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Mason
To all tempted to respond to this post,

Rather curiously, Desi sent his principle post to the IBMTCP-L list - as if
it was a contribution to an ongoing thread concerning SMTP - but we'll let
that pass - except, I suppose, to reflect that he has a problem with Subject
lines.

For the interest of those not subscribed to IBMTCP-L, the original post
contained the following substantive text:

 Every time a Kicks region is cycled we get the following message for every
 TCPIP LU that we have a defappl assigned to.

 IST663I CINIT REQUEST FAILED, SENSE=0801 117
 IST664I REAL  OLU=BEXARNET.CS40   REAL  DLU=BEXARNET.CICSP7
 IST889I SID = F167138ED74D4F71
 IST1669I IPADDR..PORT 206.254.48.40..2669
 IST314I END

 Example:

  LUMAP cs40   206.254.48.40 defappl cicsp7

 Is there a parameter I can specify in my TCPIP profile that will prevent
 this?

Finally, after some trouble getting my post accepted, I have proposed  - in
three linked posts - a solution based on the VTAM message flooding
prevention table.

For any who may still be interested, the archives can be viewed at
http://vm.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?IBMTCP-L

Since I was obliged to select a new title, it is Re: How to suppress VTAM
messages  (corrected from SMTP Mail)

Chris Mason

- Original Message - 
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 List,

 I suppressed the following message thru MPFLST00 but yet the messages are
 still been produced. Any ideas?

 IST663I  CINIT REQUEST FAILED, SENSE=0801

 Thanks,

 Desi

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Re: MPF message suppression

2006-06-09 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
IIRC, there are options to suppress them from SYSLOG and OPERLOG, 
as well. 

Not from MPF directly but from message exits driven from MPF.

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NAT'D Ip using Enterprise Extender

2006-06-09 Thread Scott Doherty
Does anyone know if NAT'd IP's have an ill effect on EE under
Z/OS 1.4?

TIA

Scott

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Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 10:48:04 -0700, Edward Jaffe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm dealing _right now_ with network performance issues in a mixed-media
network and wondering _how on earth_ Ethernet managed to gain so much
market acceptance and prevail over Token-Ring. It certainly wasn't due
to technical superiority. (Far from it!) From what I can gather, it was
price, price, and ... oh yeah ... price...

The same reason people are moving away from the mainframe.  Look at any 
mainframe shop and you'll see an explosive growth in computing power.  The 
mainframes are staying about the same while *ix and Microslop gain.

Not trying to open the debate about TCO...  The perception is that the 
mainframe is expensive.

It's really unfortunate that IBM isn't pricing software aggressively to 
stop the hemorrhage.

Tom Marchant

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Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 11:16:06 -0400, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   This shows some of the good and some of the bad with using
open-source technologies.  You can do some very useful and exciting
stuff, but it is not as mature as what we are used to with z/OS.

Linux and Unix are nowhere near what MVS is, but I'll take Linux and
other Open source software over Microsoft any day.

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SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Mark Pace
Where can I find the definitions that trigger a SLIP message?

IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=HSM , ASID=0025.

I've looked in a few manuals and googled, but I can't find what causes a
SLIP X33E



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Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-09 Thread Bob Shannon
The same reason people are moving away from the mainframe.  Look at any

mainframe shop and you'll see an explosive growth in computing power.
The 
mainframes are staying about the same while *ix and Microslop gain..

That may be true in your situation, but certainly not everywhere. Some
mainframe shops have stagnated. Others are seeing tremendous growth. Are
server MIPS growing faster than mainframe MIPS? Probably, but that
doesn't mean mainframes aren't growing. 

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: Google Architecture

2006-06-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

oh and late breaking topic drift:

Bank admits flaws in chip and PIN security
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=385811in_page_id=1770
Millions at risk from chip and Pin
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/saving-and-banking/article.html?in_article_id=409616in_page_id=7
Millions in danger from chip and pin fraudsters
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=389084in_page_id=1770in_a_source=
UK Banks Expected To Move To DDA EMV Cards
http://www.epaynews.com/index.cgi?survey=ref=browsef=viewid=11497625028614136145block=

and some comments:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#1 UK Detects Chip-And-PIN 
Security Flaw
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#2 UK Banks Expected To Move To 
DDA EMV Cards


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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
See MVS Init and Tuning reference
 
45.3  IBM-supplied default for IEASLPxx   © Copyrigh
Topi
 SLIP SET,C=13E,ID=X13E,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=1C5,RE=00090004,ID=X1C5,A=NODUMP,END

 SLIP SET,C=222,ID=X222,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=322,ID=X322,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=33E,ID=X33E,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=3C4,REASON=1A,ID=S3C4,A=SVCD,END



From: Mark Pace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SLIP Trap definitions



Where can I find the definitions that trigger a SLIP message?

IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=HSM , ASID=0025.

I've looked in a few manuals and googled, but I can't find what causes a
SLIP X33E



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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Mark Pace
SLIP SET,C=33E,ID=X33E,A=NODUMP,END

But that doesn't tell me causes that trap to be handled.  What causes this
message to be displayed?



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SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Jasen Kloeppel
We had a tape dataset get uncataloged and hence the tape went scratch and 
the data was lost.  It looks from the SMF manual that type 65 records will 
report this activity.  From the manual : One type 65 record is written for 
each record updated or deleted from a catalog.  Unfortunately we don't 
collect type 65 records here.  I have 2 questions.


Will type 65 records tell me who removed the entry from the catalog?  From 
what I have read I believe so, but I have no records to verify this against.


Is there any other SMF record which I might be able to use to derive the 
same information?


Thanks for any help,

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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Campbell Jay
An S33E Abend 

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SLIP SET,C=33E,ID=X33E,A=NODUMP,END

But that doesn't tell me causes that trap to be handled.  What causes
this message to be displayed?



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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Brian Peterson
D SLIP=X33E will show you what the SLIP trap is looking for (works for any 
trap).  On my system:

D SLIP=X33E   
IEE735I 08.16.15 SLIP DISPLAY 
ID=X33E,NONPER,ENABLED
ACTION=NODUMP,SET BY CONS INTERNAL,RBLEVEL=ERROR,COMP=33E 

The trap specifies COMP=33E, which means that the trap hits when a system 
abend code 33E occurs.  The ACTION=NODUMP means that the SLIP action is 
to not take an SVC dump.  You can look up abend code 33E to see the 
definition of this particular abend code.

This is one of the standard SLIP traps which IBM provides for every MVS 
system, and is part of normal system operation.

Brian

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:45:57 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Where can I find the definitions that trigger a SLIP message?

IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=HSM , ASID=0025.

I've looked in a few manuals and googled, but I can't find what causes a
SLIP X33E

Mark D Pace

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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Thomas, Jim
Take a look at your IEASLPxx ... The C= will have 
33E specified with an ID=X33E  IOW it's a S33E  !!.

  

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See MVS Init and Tuning reference
 
45.3  IBM-supplied default for IEASLPxx   (c) Copyrigh
Topi
 SLIP SET,C=13E,ID=X13E,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=1C5,RE=00090004,ID=X1C5,A=NODUMP,END

 SLIP SET,C=222,ID=X222,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=322,ID=X322,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=33E,ID=X33E,A=NODUMP,END
 SLIP SET,C=3C4,REASON=1A,ID=S3C4,A=SVCD,END



From: Mark Pace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 6/9/2006 8:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SLIP Trap definitions



Where can I find the definitions that trigger a SLIP message?

IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=HSM , ASID=0025.

I've looked in a few manuals and googled, but I can't find what causes a
SLIP X33E



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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Bob Shannon
 But that doesn't tell me causes that trap to be handled.  

Look up abend 33E. Since IBM defines a slip for this code, accept it as
a normal behavior.


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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks everyone.
The additonal explanations finally turned on the light.



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Re: Servicing z/OS R7 from z/OS R4 (SMPE)

2006-06-09 Thread Tom Marchant
Yes.  Specify (using Donald's example dsname) SYS1.HFS.ROOT..SYSR1
in BPXPRMxx.  I took it a step farther and specified my DDDEFs as
/service/RES002/yadayada and set up automount to manage the /service
mount point.  That way, I always had the correct HFS mounted when I
applied maintenance, and always mounted the correct root HFS at IPL
time.

There is more about this in the archives.

Tom Marchant

On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:45:44 -0400, Imbriale, Donald (Exchange) 
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Assume current sysres volume is RES001 and root HFS is named something
like SYS1.HFS.ROOT.RES001; including the sysres volser name in the HFS
dsname is important.

To do service, copy volume RES001 to RES002.  Copy SYS1.HFS.ROOT.RES001
to SYS1.HFS.ROOT.RES002.  In your SMP/E zone, make sure the DDDEFs for
non-HFS data sets specify volser RES002 and the DDDEFs for HFS stuff are
/service/yadayada.  Mount SYS1.HFS.ROOT.RES002 on mount point /service.
Do your maintenance via SMPE and it should all go on to the correct data
sets.

In BPXPRMxx you can use system symbolics for the dsname for the root HFS
to include the sysres volser from which the system is IPLed.  This helps
to assure the correct combination of sysres and root HFS are brought up
together.  Now just IPL from the new sysres and all should be well.

Don Imbriale

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This reminds me of two questions I have been meaning to ask:

1) How do most of you clone your HFS files?  Do you just do a DFDSS
DUMP/RESTORE?

2) How do you point your SMPE environment to the cloned system?  Do you
use
different dataset names or just use the SMPE JCL or DDDEFS to override
the
volume serial numbers for the target datasets?


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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Bertus Bekker - BCX - Persetel Q Vector
An abend S33E will cause the SLIP trap to be matched.
The SLIP is set to prevent a dump, as a 33E is usually not neccesarily bad.
That is the purpose of most of the SLIP traps set in IEASLP00.
SLIP traps can also be set for many other events, mainly as a debugging aid. 



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SLIP SET,C=33E,ID=X33E,A=NODUMP,END

But that doesn't tell me causes that trap to be handled.  What causes this
message to be displayed?



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RES: MPF message suppression

2006-06-09 Thread Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Yes, if you specify xxx,SUP(YES),RETAIN(NO),USEREXIT(Your_exit_name)
and code something like this :

Exit001  CSECT   
Exit001  AMODE 31
Exit001  RMODE ANY   
 USING *,12 
 STM   14,12,12(13)   
 LR12,15   
STARTL 11,0(1) 
 USING CTXT,11  
 OICTXTRFB2,CTXTRDTM 
RETURN   LM14,12,12(13)   
 XR15,15   
 BR14   
 IEZVX100

But take care because there will be no trace of this supressed message.


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos


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Assunto: Re: MPF message suppression


IIRC, there are options to suppress them from SYSLOG and OPERLOG,
as well. 

Not from MPF directly but from message exits driven from MPF.

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Change Working Directory for FTP

2006-06-09 Thread Michael Gebbia
Hello,

I would like to setup a TSO User to have a different working directory
than their TSOID when they FTP into the manframe.

I know it can be done by just typing CD /pathname when the FTP has been
established but the FTP is being
done thru an API and we would like to establish the working directory for
this particular user...
Also the working directory will not just be a single path, it will be
like:  /TESTDATA/FILES

Can anyone help ?

Michael Gebbia

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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 07:28:41 -0500, Jasen Kloeppel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Is there any other SMF record which I might be able to use to derive the
same information?

Thanks for any help,

Jasen Kloeppel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shelter Insurance

Jasen - I am not SMF expert but I have a SAS job written here that I use to 
scan SMF records to see who touched a particular file.

In reading the SAS code, here is what it says for the different types of 
SMF records:

14 - Input
15 - Output
17 - Scratch
18 - Rename
61 - IF ACTCODE = 'IN' THEN ACTIVITY = 'ICF DEFINE (IN)'
 IF ACTCODE = 'DE' THEN ACTIVITY = 'ICF DEFINE (DE)'
 IF ACTCODE = 'UP' THEN ACTIVITY = 'ICF DEFINE (UP)'
 (ACTCODE is at displacement 19)
62 - VSAM Open
64 - VSAM Close
65 - IF ACTCODE = 'S' THEN ACTIVITY = 'VSAM SCRATCH'
 IF ACTCODE = 'U' THEN ACTIVITY = 'VSAM (UN)CAT'
 (This time ACTCODE is at displacement 71
66 - IF ACTCODE = 'R' THEN ACTIVITY = 'RENAME(ICF)'
ELSE ACTIVITY = 'ICF ALTER';
 (ACTCODE is at displacement 71 here too)

Unfortunately I think that 65 is the one you wanted.

HTH,
Patrick Lyon
   

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JES2 JOEs and How to Identify them

2006-06-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
It has been awhile since I had to trouble shoot this type of problem.

Does anyone know of a way in JES2/SDSF to identify the job that has produced a 
significant number of JOEs?

I had a situation where we ran out of JOEs.  Other than reviewing the entire 
output queue manually, is there an easier way of finding (using JES2 commands 
or SDSF) to see what job(s) have created a lot of individual SYSOUT elements?  

I will be reviewing our limit on number of JOEs and see about increasing it.  
But I am not sure if there was an easy way to see if JOB A has created 100,000 
JOEs  or not.

I am also looking for a way to automate the identification of the culprits and 
have automation action them instead of a person.

Thanks.
Lizette

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Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:28:57 -0400, Bob Shannon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The same reason people are moving away from the mainframe.  Look at any

mainframe shop and you'll see an explosive growth in computing power.
The
mainframes are staying about the same while *ix and Microslop gain..

That may be true in your situation, but certainly not everywhere. Some
mainframe shops have stagnated. Others are seeing tremendous growth. Are
server MIPS growing faster than mainframe MIPS? Probably, but that
doesn't mean mainframes aren't growing.

I'd like to see the shop where the mainframe is growing even half as
fast as the other platforms.  I'd also like to see the number of
mainframe shops increasing.

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Re: JES2 JOEs and How to Identify them

2006-06-09 Thread Ken Porowski
SDSF Output queue scroll over and you should see field O-Grp-N.  Find
the job(s) with the highest number.  Note: sorting this field is not
appropriate as the numbers are not justified. 

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It has been awhile since I had to trouble shoot this type of problem.

Does anyone know of a way in JES2/SDSF to identify the job that has
produced a significant number of JOEs?

I had a situation where we ran out of JOEs.  Other than reviewing the
entire output queue manually, is there an easier way of finding (using
JES2 commands or SDSF) to see what job(s) have created a lot of
individual SYSOUT elements?  

I will be reviewing our limit on number of JOEs and see about increasing
it.  But I am not sure if there was an easy way to see if JOB A has
created 100,000 JOEs  or not.

I am also looking for a way to automate the identification of the
culprits and have automation action them instead of a person.

Thanks.
Lizette

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Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-09 Thread Daz

But it's a totally diffrent paradigm, IMHumbleO.
In our shop, we have many unixen. But their CP is tied to memory.
Each unixen CP has to have xMB memory, and they come in fours.
You want more memory?  4 More CP + 4 * xMB. And so on. That's costly.
Mainframe is diffrent. Much Diffrent. And the people?
For twenty unix boxen, 1 sysprog/admin. Not Gartner, but close to real.
Big shops, two - three hundred unix boxen, some maybe 'super-domes', really
30 -35 per seat - tough job, really tough.
Close to mainframe? I think totally diffrent.

For Multi-Sysplex MainFrame Production system, how many sysprogs to change a
light bulb?

I love my job.


On 6/9/06, Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The same reason people are moving away from the mainframe.  Look at any

mainframe shop and you'll see an explosive growth in computing power.
The
mainframes are staying about the same while *ix and Microslop gain..

That may be true in your situation, but certainly not everywhere. Some
mainframe shops have stagnated. Others are seeing tremendous growth. Are
server MIPS growing faster than mainframe MIPS? Probably, but that
doesn't mean mainframes aren't growing.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: Change Working Directory for FTP

2006-06-09 Thread Charles Mills
Right off, I don't know how to do this.

Did you know there is a TCP/IP and FTP mailing list?

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Hello,

I would like to setup a TSO User to have a different working directory
than their TSOID when they FTP into the manframe.

I know it can be done by just typing CD /pathname when the FTP has been
established but the FTP is being
done thru an API and we would like to establish the working directory for
this particular user...
Also the working directory will not just be a single path, it will be
like:  /TESTDATA/FILES

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Michael Gebbia

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Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-09 Thread McKown, John
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  This shows some of the good and some of the bad with using
 open-source technologies.  You can do some very useful and exciting
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 Linux and Unix are nowhere near what MVS is, but I'll take Linux and
 other Open source software over Microsoft any day.
 
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Re: Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years later

2006-06-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:

as more environments changed from terminal emulation paradigm to
client/server paradigm ... you were starting to have server asymmetric
bandwidth requirements with individual (server) adapter card thruput
equivalent to aggregate lan thruput ... i.e. servers needed to have
thruput capacity equal to aggregate requirements of all clients.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#35 Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 
years later
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#36 Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 
years later


the SAA drive was controlling feature/function as part of trying to 
maintain the terminal emulation paradigm and forestall transition to 
2tier/client-server

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation

 or what we were out doing, pitching 3-tier architecture and what 
was to become middleware (we had come up with 3-tier architecture and 
was out pitching it to customer executives and taken heat from the SAA 
forces)

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier

consistent with the SAA drive and attempts to maintain the terminal 
emulation paradigm was the low per card effective thruput and 
recommended configurations with 100-300 machines sharing the same 16mbit 
t/r lan (although effective aggregate bandwidth was less than 8mbit with 
typical configurations dividing that between 100-300 machines).


for some drift, the terminal emulation paradigm would have been happy to 
stick with the original coax cable runs ... but one of the reasons for 
the transition to t/r supporting terminal emulation paradigm was that 
there were large number of installations running in lb/sq-ft loading 
problems from the overloaded long cable tray runs (there had to be 
physical cable running from the machine room to each  every terminal).


of of this tended to fence off the mainframe from participating in the 
emerging new advanced feature/functions around client/server paradigm.
enforcing the terminal emulation paradigm was resulting in the server 
feature/function being done outside of the datacenter and loads of 
datacenter corporate data leaking out to these servers.


this was what had prompted a senior person from the disk division to 
sneaking a presentation into the communication group's internal, annual 
world-wide conference, where he started out the presentation by stating 
that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise 
of the mainframe disk division. recent reference

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#4 Google Architecture

for some additional drift, we sporadically claim that the original SOA 
(service oriented architecture) implementation was the payment gateway.


we had come up with 3-tier architecture (and what was going to be called 
middleware) and had also done our ha/cmp product

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

we were later asked to consult with a small client/server startup that 
wanted to perform payment transactions on their server.


turns out that two of the people from this ha/cmp meeting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

were now at this small client/server startup and responsible for 
something that was being called the commerce server

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#asrn2
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#asrn3

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Re: DYNALLOC with (Kilo)bytes

2006-06-09 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
I use DYNALLOC to allocate a dataset. I know the size of each record and 
the number of records, so I can compute the number of bytes necessary.
 
However, the only DYNALLOC text units for a space unit seem to be TRKS 
and CYLS. Did I overlook something ? Or do I need to do the math myself, 
converting the # of bytes to the appropriate # of tracks ? Is this what 
ISPF 3.2 does internally, too ? Is there a service to do the computation 
?

DALBLKLN - specifies tehaverage data block length

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Re: Change Working Directory for FTP

2006-06-09 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Michael,
a user's UNIX home directory is specified in the user's OMVS Segment of your
RACF / ACF2 / TSS security system. Usually it's something like /u/userid.
Check with your security admin. This is where you can specify the default
directory the user should be directed to.

HTH.

Regards,
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svcupdte

2006-06-09 Thread Carroll, William
I am executing the svcupdte in a program I copied down from the internet.
Does anybody know how long this should execute?  Going on 5 minutes right
now??  Please advise...
TIA

Bill

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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Bell

I am not an SMF expert either - google brought me to the Cherl Watson smf
ref.pdf
origional poster specified tape dataset and I thought type 17 was scratch
for any non-vsam dataset.
61,62,63,... 66 are all for VSAM.

Mike

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Re: MPF message suppression

2006-06-09 Thread TISLER Zaromil
A few years ago we conseidered implementing a message-flooding prevention
table. We have never used it, but maybe it could be interesting for you.


z/OS V1R7.0 Comm Svr: SNA Resource Definition Reference
URL:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B650/5.7?DT=2
0050720144034 

5.7 Message-flooding prevention table

The message-flooding prevention facility identifies and suppresses duplicate
messages that are issued in rapid succession. This reduces the possibility
of duplicate messages flooding the operator console and concealing critical
information. VTAM bases its suppression on the time interval since the
message was last issued and on the similarity of variable text in the
original and subsequent message. 

For each candidate message, the message-flooding prevention table contains
the criteria that must be met before VTAM suppresses duplicate messages and
whether suppressed messages are sent to the hardcopy log. The suppression
criteria include the amount of time between the original and subsequent
messages, and an indication of which variable text fields are to be
compared. If the message is reissued within the specified time interval and
the specified variable text fields contain the same information, VTAM
suppresses the message

etc.

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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Flynn

On 09/06/06, Jasen Kloeppel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there any other SMF record which I might be able to use to derive the
same information?


Try Type 17 ( scratch) and 18 (rename).

17 is written when a non-VSAM dataset is scratched. There will be one
type 17 for each volume of a multivolume dataset.

18 is written whenever a non-VSAM dataset is renamed.
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Re: svcupdte utility keeps running

2006-06-09 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Friday 09 June 2006 10:55, Carroll, William wrote:

 I am executing the svcupdte in a program I copied down from the
 internet. Does anybody know how long this should execute?  
 Going on 5 minutes right now??  Please advise...

I suspect you set it up for temporary install and it'll stay up until 
you STOP it, CANCEL it, or shut the system down. The doc at 
http://gsf-soft.com/Freeware/SVCUPDTE.shtml explains the various 
execution modes.  

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MPF msg suppression

2006-06-09 Thread Desi de la Garza
Peter,

Where then may I go to suppress them?

Thanks,
 
Desi 

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MPF message suppression does not suppress the production of messages but
suppresses them from being displayed at any 
console. The messages are still send to the hardcopy log (SYSLOG or
OPERLOG).


Peter Hunkeler
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Students think mainframes are cool | The Register

2006-06-09 Thread McKown, John
Well, I liked it. GRIN

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/09/students_love_mainframes/

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Re: Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years later

2006-06-09 Thread R.S.

Charles Mills wrote:

Price and also simplicity of implementation.

Price is especially significant when people are tip-toeing into something
not sure if they are going to like it - that was the case with VHS and Beta.
I'll get one of these cheap VHS VCRs, and if I like it, I'll get a good
Beta later. Of course, once they had a library of VHS tapes, later never
came.


I don't know VHS-Beta war, but in times of early LANs a cost of TR 
adapter was approx. $800, while Novell NE2000 was less than $100. That's 
the difference. For *small* networks both standards were OK. 
Additionally Eth didn't need any additional box, while TR required MAU.
Hint: it was ethernet over coaxial cable - no repeater/hub needed 
(switch was not born yet).
Novell bought Eagle company just to produce cheap networking cards. To 
make LAN available for everyone. They did the revolution.
In the best years Novell had approx. 70% of file server marketshare (and 
over 90% in Poland).


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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/9/2006 8:44:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jasen -  I am not SMF expert but I have a SAS job written here that I use to 
scan  SMF records to see who touched a particular file.

In reading the SAS  code, here is what it says for the different types of 
SMF  records:




Get Micheal Cleary's DAF program off the CBT tape. _www.cbttape.org_ 
(http://www.cbttape.org) 
If it's touched it will find who did it. Alternateively RACF(or equivalent)  
AUDIT report for the file and UCAT should produce similar results. Might give  
Sam**2 a nudge to update the web page too. See you in Seattle??? Hot l Bal  
mor???

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Re: SLIP Trap definitions

2006-06-09 Thread Tony Harminc
Mark Pace wrote:

 Where can I find the definitions that trigger a SLIP message?
 
 IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=HSM , ASID=0025.
 
 I've looked in a few manuals and googled, but I can't find 
 what causes a SLIP X33E

Are you asking what a 33E abend *is*? Or where to find the list of SLIPs
that are in effect?

If the former, it's a DETACH of a subtask that hasn't completed. This can
happen normally under various circumstances, but the most common by far is
when you are running a TSO command, and hit ATTN, and then run another
command. The TMP DETACHes the unfinished command, and it abends as part of
routine resource cleanup. (Or rather, abend exists largely to perform
resource cleanup.)

Tony H.

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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/9/2006 9:56:15 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

61,62,63,... 66 are all for VSAM.




I think he's looking for the uncatalog from the  UCAT?? 

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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Bruce Black

Try Type 17 ( scratch) and 18 (rename).

17 is written when a non-VSAM dataset is scratched. There will be one
type 17 for each volume of a multivolume dataset.

18 is written whenever a non-VSAM dataset is renamed. 
I believe those are for disk datasets only.  The posted was dealing with 
a tape dataset that was uncataloged.


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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/9/2006 11:39:23 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  believe those are for disk datasets only.  The posted was dealing with  
a tape dataset that was uncataloged.





Oh, what tape management software are you running? Could catch it by  running 
the CA-1 equivalent of TMSAUDIT. (I don't remember the report  numbers after 
they forced us to EARL). Or flag it down from your standard tape  reports 
cycle in the date range we're looking for?

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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Bruce Black


Oh, what tape management software are you running? Could catch it by  running 
the CA-1 equivalent of TMSAUDIT. (I don't remember the report  numbers after 
they forced us to EARL). Or flag it down from your standard tape  reports 
cycle in the date range we're looking for?
Would a TMS record who uncataloged a tape dataset?  


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Re: SMF records type 65?

2006-06-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/9/2006 11:55:13 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Would a  TMS record who uncataloged a tape dataset?   





Don't think so, but should tell us when it went scratch and give us  smaller 
universe of SMF to search?

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How-to read a tersed file directly from USS?

2006-06-09 Thread Dave Myers
Anyone know how to process a USS file, as direct input into the TERSE pgm?

Here's my JCL:

//STEP1  EXEC PGM=TRSMAIN,PARM=UNPACK  
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*  
//OUTFILE  DD   DISP=(,CATLG),  
//  DSN=DSGDEM.SMF.UNTERSED,  
//  UNIT=SYSDA,  
//  RECFM=VBS,BLKSIZE=27998,DSORG=PS,  
//  SPACE=(CYL,(500,500))  
//INFILE DD  PATH='/ftpint/ftpuser1/tersed.bin',PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),
//  BLKSIZE=10240,LRECL=1024,RECFM=FB  


Here's TERSE's complaint:

 STARTING TERSE DECODE  UNPACK 4.09  11:24:00   6/09/06  
FOR INPUT  - DDNAME: INFILE   DSNAME: ...PATH=.SPECIFIED...
** ERROR:   FOR INPUT - ONLY SEQUENTIAL DATASETS ARE  SUPPORTED AT THIS 
TIME + 
THIS IS NOT A RECOGNIZABLE TERSED DATASET.   
 FINISHED TERSE DECODE  UNPACK 4.09  11:24:00   6/09/06  
RETURN CODE:  12  


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Re: How-to read a tersed file directly from USS?

2006-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Dave Myers said:

 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:42:04 -0600
 
 Anyone know how to process a USS file, as direct input into the TERSE pgm?
 
 Here's my JCL:
 
 //STEP1  EXEC PGM=TRSMAIN,PARM=UNPACK
 //INFILE DD  PATH='/ftpint/ftpuser1/tersed.bin',PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),
 //  BLKSIZE=10240,LRECL=1024,RECFM=FB
 
 FOR INPUT  - DDNAME: INFILE   DSNAME: ...PATH=.SPECIFIED...
 ** ERROR:   FOR INPUT - ONLY SEQUENTIAL DATASETS ARE  SUPPORTED AT THIS
 TIME +
 
Submit a Requirement.

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Re: DYNALLOC with (Kilo)bytes

2006-06-09 Thread Doug Henry
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:24:04 -0400, Richard Tsujimoto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I use DYNALLOC to allocate a dataset. I know the size of each record and
the number of records, so I can compute the number of bytes necessary.

 
DALAVGR (key is 8010) specifies the allocation unit to be used when the 
data set is allocated. 
 
If you do code DALAVGR (with SMS), DALBLKLN specifies the average record
length in bytes of the data. The system computes the block size and the 
number of tracks to allocate.   
   
Doug

  

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ICETOOL question

2006-06-09 Thread Andy Robertson
If I have a set of files containing records as follows:

File 1
10012345FIRST
10112345FIRST
10212345FIRST
10312345FIRST

File 2
10012345   SECOND
10312345   SECOND
10512345   SECOND
10612345   SECOND

File 3
10012345THIRD
10112345THIRD

and I want to merge them together to create a single file, keyed on the 
first 8 bytes, as follows:

10012345FIRSTSECONDTHIRD
10112345FIRSTSECONDTHIRD
10212345FIRST
10312345FIRSTSECOND
10512345 SECOND
10612345 SECOND 

can I do this with DFSORT/ icetool? If so, what control parameters do I 
need?

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Re: DYNALLOC with (Kilo)bytes

2006-06-09 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Doug,

You got the wrong poster.  I'm not the original poster.  It was Beate 
Kawelke.




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On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:24:04 -0400, Richard Tsujimoto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I use DYNALLOC to allocate a dataset. I know the size of each record and
the number of records, so I can compute the number of bytes necessary.
  
 
DALAVGR (key is 8010) specifies the allocation unit to be used when the 
data set is allocated. 
 
If you do code DALAVGR (with SMS), DALBLKLN specifies the average record  
length in bytes of the data. The system computes the block size and the  
number of tracks to allocate.  
 
Doug 
  
 

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Re: ICETOOL question

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Bell

What you want is SPLICE - from the manual
SPLICE - splices together fields from records that
have the same numeric or character field values
(that is, duplicate values), but different information.
Fields from two or more records can be combined to
create an output record. The fields to be spliced can
originate from records in different data sets, so you
can use SPLICE to do various join and match operations.

or you can search the archives there are multiple examples there also

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Re: ECSA

2006-06-09 Thread R.S.

Dennis McCarthy wrote:

Is there any down side to increaseing the ECSA? We have a 2086-320 with 4gb 
CS on the production LPAR. It currently looks like this:


CSA=(2000,64000)

DISPLAY STORAGE: A (B=BELOW A=ABOVE T=TOTAL) CSA SIZE:   63M 
DATA FORMAT: P (K=KBYTES P=PERCENT)  CSA FREE:  8.3% 



I increased it on the test LPAR (about 3gb CS):

CSA=(2000,100)

and it looks like this:

DISPLAY STORAGE: A (B=BELOW A=ABOVE T=TOTAL) CSA SIZE:  977M
DATA FORMAT: P (K=KBYTES P=PERCENT)  CSA FREE: 96.5%


The only disadvantage is reduced private area above the bar. It can be a 
problem or not - it depends. It is more likely to have problems, when 
CSA (below the line) is too big.

BTW: Why don't you increase ECSA *slightly* ?

My $0.02

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Re: ECSA

2006-06-09 Thread Bob Shannon
 The only disadvantage is reduced private area above the bar.

Above the line; not above the bar.

Bob Shannon
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Re: ECSA

2006-06-09 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
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From: Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: ECSA
 
 The only disadvantage is reduced private area above the bar.

Above the line; not above the bar.

The more CSA/ECSA/SQA/ESQA that is defined, the greater is the amount of 
storage that must be permanently fixed.  As more storage is permanently fixed, 
there is less total real storage available to support dynamic paging among all 
the work (jobs, address spaces, OLTPs, etc.).  The less total real storage to 
support paging, the paging rate of lower priority work may increase with a 
corresponding increase in transaction time.  The worst case is to define almost 
all of real storage as ECSA, then the system thrashes (does next to nothing 
except paging operations).
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: ECSA

2006-06-09 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 22:47 +0200, R.S. wrote:

 The only disadvantage is reduced private area above 

This applies to *every* address space of course.

 BTW: Why don't you increase ECSA *slightly* ?

Agreed - then maybe find out who's using it all, and adjust accordingly.
We have had reasons to use large ECSA, but not that much.

Shane ...

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Re: ECSA

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Mulder
  The more CSA/ECSA/SQA/ESQA that is defined, the greater is the 
 amount of storage that must be permanently fixed.  As more storage 
 is permanently fixed, there is less total real storage available to 
 support dynamic paging among all the work (jobs, address spaces, 
 OLTPs, etc.).  The less total real storage to support paging, the 
 paging rate of lower priority work may increase with a corresponding
 increase in transaction time.  The worst case is to define almost 
 all of real storage as ECSA, then the system thrashes (does next to 
 nothing except paging operations).

   This is not true.  The only real storage cost to defining 
CSA/ECSA/SQA/ESQA  in IEASYSxx is one page (4K bytes) per 
megabyte defined (for the page table representing that megabyte).

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Vtam question

2006-06-09 Thread Bodra - Pessoal
What is the difference between VTAM Cross-Domain and Interentreprise
license?

 

It´s possible to get communication between vtam at my host to another vtam
in a different host with different network id´s using Cross-Domain feature?

 

Or Cross-Domain is used just for Single gateway, not back-to-back
connections?

 

Thanks

 

Carlos

 

 

 

 


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Re: ECSA

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/09/2006
   at 05:03 PM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

The more CSA/ECSA/SQA/ESQA that is defined, the greater is the amount
of storage that must be permanently fixed. 

Permanently fixed? Aren't SQA/ESQA pages fixed only when allocated?
CSA/ECSA isn't page fixed at all, so the only real storage issue is
page fixing the page and segment tables; surely that isn't enough to
be a performance issue.
 
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Re: ECSA

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/09/2006
   at 10:47 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The only disadvantage is reduced private area above the bar.

No! Above the *line*.
 
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Re: FTP from Unix FS

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/08/2006
   at 02:20 PM, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Can someone explain to me how to FTP something out of a USS
filesystem?

ITYM Unix.

When I FTP to my zOS system and log in
230 IBMUSER is logged on.  Working directory is IBMUSER..

Do a cd if that bothers you. Better yet, log on as your own userid
instead of as IBMUSER.

How can I switch to the USS file system to download a file there?

What do you mean by the USS file system? Unix supports a hierarchy
of directories; if you need a file system mounted, it must be mounted
before you do your FTP transfer. You specify an absolute or relative
path in terms of what is already mounted.

If you want to use relative paths, do a cd to your home directory or
whatever.

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Re: Servicing z/OS R7 from z/OS R4 (SMPE)

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/08/2006
   at 10:05 AM, Isabel Moczo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

What about the HFS files? If I run SMP/e from another system its HFS
files  will get modified. If I mount clones of the HFS files on the
driving  system, will anybody else be able to do any work (on our
systems  programming system)  while I apply maintenance?

 1. You don't install service on the target while it is in use.

 2. You mount any *FS file at the appropriate mount point in the
/service directory. See the Unix System Services Planning Guide
for recommended naming conventions.

Perhaps these are dumb questions, which are already answered by IBM 
manuals, but we are used to apply maintenance on live systems

Well, it's not my dog.

because we've had problems with our current procedures,

I can believe that.

If you set up a good naming[1] convention and take advantage of
indirect caloging, static system symbols and extended indirect
cataloging, then you should be able to easilly handle multiple sets of
target volumes and switch production among them. There's some guidance
in the CPAC documentation.

[1] Not just data set, but also volume.
 
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Re: Servicing z/OS R7 from z/OS R4 (SMPE)

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/08/2006
   at 12:21 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Once all the work is done, you must either rename the clone HFS files
to have the correct name, or you must change the BPXPRMxx member to
use the new HFS file names.

Not if you set things up properly. BTDTGTTS.

Again, my personal opinion is that the UNIX work can be very
confusing unless you have some UNIX background.

My Unix experience was initially on MVS, and almost exclusively MVS
after that.

And it is even confusing then!

My experience is that it's not confusing at all if you pay close
attention to details. But reading the planning guides is not a luxury,
it's a necessity.

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Re: Servicing z/OS R7 from z/OS R4 (SMPE)

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/08/2006
   at 01:13 PM, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

2) How do you point your SMPE environment to the cloned system?  Do
you use different dataset names or just use the SMPE JCL or DDDEFS to
override the volume serial numbers for the target datasets?

I've always used a dsn that was tied to the volume serial number of
the IPL volume. I regard the use of CLIP as Russian Roulette.
 
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Re: Servicing z/OS R7 from z/OS R4 (SMPE)

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/08/2006
   at 02:45 PM, Imbriale, Donald (Exchange) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

In BPXPRMxx you can use system symbolics for the dsname for the root
HFS to include the sysres volser from which the system is IPLed.

Or a symbol derived from that.

Now just IPL from the new sysres and all should be well.

Indeed.
 
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Re: Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years later

2006-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/09/2006
   at 08:25 AM, Anne  Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

(there had to be physical cable running from the machine room to 
each  every terminal)

3299.
 
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(fwd) Re: COBOL Books

2006-06-09 Thread Clark Morris
On 8 Jun 2006 06:24:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Bruce
McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

James,

I've written hundreds of unique business programs with COBOL and
maintained thousands more over the last 20 years. I taught COBOL
programming in the 80's and used the Murach books with good success.
They tend to over-explain simple concepts but overall they are good
training materials. You should have no problem separating the wheat
from the chaff and learning what you need to know.

COBOL is a language specification defined by an evolving set of
vendor-independent ANSI standards.  Level 68 was the first one that
compiler manufacturers really settled on.  Level 74 was actually a
pleasure to work with.  Level 85 was adopted by IBM as COBOL II.  Now
we have Level 2000 (IBM calls it OS/390 COBOL and now Enterprise
COBOL).  This specification expands the functionality into object
orientation.  Most books that cover OO-COBOL (some call it COOL - COBOL
Object Oriented Language) do a fair job if you're already comfortable
with object orientation.

The point is that the COBOL language specification is not owned by any
one vendor.  It has always served it's purpose extremely well and has
adapted over the decades to include new programming paradigms.  Each
vendor has extended the language to make it more appealing to specific
audiences or to take advantages of some unique characteristic of their
particular platform.  Unfortunately, these extensions are rarely
transferrable between platforms and this is the primary difficulty when
migrating an application from one platform to another.  As long as you
keep your code to the ANSI spec, the source is transferrable with no
issues.  (It still needs to be compiled on the target platform.)  Use
language extensions wisely.

This is true only if the platforms recognize and use the same data
types and are both the same flavor of EBCDIC or ASCII or coding scheme
x. Compile options also can cause surprises.

I worked on a big project for US Steel in the early 90's.  Development
was done on a network running MicroFocus COBOL and the target platform
was an IBM mainframe.  My predecessor had used a number of MicroFocus
language extensions, then left the project before integration testing.
This was my first experience with a non-IBM compiler.  I picked up
where he left off and had a heck of a time getting his stuff to compile
because of the extensions.  Untangling the extensions was quite an
education.

Hope this helps.

-- Bruce

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how to specify the z/OS LE runtime timezone ?

2006-06-09 Thread Tsai Laurence

Greetings,
as the subject, does anybody know how to do with it ?
I am looking for an alternative to unify the timezone of MVS  
Application. Is it doable ?


Appreciated of your kindly advisement. Thanks !

Sincerely,
Laurence

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Re: NAT'D Ip using Enterprise Extender

2006-06-09 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Scott Doherty wrote:

Does anyone know if NAT'd IP's have an ill effect on EE under
Z/OS 1.4?

TIA

Scott



Not that I am aware of.  We are doing it and if we are having problems, 
we don't know about it.


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Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-09 Thread Timothy Sipples
John McKown wrote:

Yes, YOU will take Linux over Windows, as would I. Are you the decision
maker? Unfortunately, in many cases, the decision makers have a herd
mentality. I remember when it was Nobody got fired for buying IBM..
Now it is Nobody got fired for buying Microsoft.

Well, OK, but there's a mighty big (and still fast growing) Linux herd.
There's plenty of market research data on that from Gartner, IDC, etc.
Your particular company may be different -- maybe your herd got separated
from the bigger herd -- but there's no lack of big herd here.  Maybe three
to five years ago, maybe.

Actually if you do a quick Google search -- and if the results are
consistent :-) -- you'd see that, indeed, there are plenty of people who
got fired for buying Microsoft.  My Google says Cardsystems, National
Westminster Bank, Commonwealth Bank of Australia, and the unnamed CIO in
the story I posted not too long ago, among others.

You don't buy Linux, so it's impossible to get fired for buying Linux.  (Or
maybe you should always get fired for buying Linux because you don't have
to buy Linux. :-))  You buy (or don't buy) Linux support.

- - - - -
Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-09 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi,

Yes, you are wrong.  You are still focusing on too small of a picture and
missing the greater view. My example used TCP/IP, VTAM and CICS as
individual entities to make the concepts easier for people to comprehend,
not to hide the fact that they are made up of TCBs.  

First, for the past 10 years or so the SMP effect has been negated to the
point that it is almost not worth figuring, especially for anything under
10 engines.

Second, It's the overhead to constantly PC switch between the various TCB's
that gives you all of the overhead, more engines = less TCB's need to be
exchanged.  The problem you are letting yourself in for is that you can't
compare this properly with a single transaction, and you don't operate that
way in the real world anyway, (do you:)).  

The demanding application point you made is well taken, as a concept only,
and you have to be aware of what you need (at a minimum) for each of your
engines so that you don't run into that problem.  Very few large subsystems
still operate in a single TCB environment.  CICS has multiple kernels (has
since CICS/ESA) and will take advantage of multiple engines (if they are
available), if not, then you run into the problem that you outlined where
you don't have enough vertical space to operate effectively, but you are
actually causing that problem yourself by not having multiple engines
available.  So again, there is no benefit to a single engine for CICS, (DB2
also runs multiple TCB's and actually multiple address spaces, so you can
see where multiple CP's would be a good thing).  

When we speak of the vertical space for a subsystem like CICS, we are
talking about the amount of work that can be accomplished within a single
CPU of the overall complex at a time.  Obviously, you wouldn't want 16x10mip
CPU's, when you can have 2x80mip or 4x40mip ones.

If you have an application that can't fit into a single CPU to execute
effectively, then it's time to look into another application, or re-write it
to take advantage of subtasking, because you will ALWAYS be hitting your
head against that next vertical CPU size bump unless you do.

So do you see where I'm going with this?  There just aren't any sites that
should be running a business machine (as opposed to a scientific process)
who will perform as well with a single CPU as they would with multiple CPUs
of a comparable size.  Especially not on the z/series processors, you have
to understand how they are built and how the processors are really
operating to understand why your points are invalid.  I think, based on your
comments, that you do have some idea of how the physical processors really
operate and if you thought about that, you would see why multiple processors
that are capacity limited to a certain speed will ALWAYS be better than
a single one for business applications.

If all else fails, think of simple physics, (this is a simplistic, but
basically accurate example, so don't get upset) you have a single chip
capable of about 2 to 3 GHz, compared to 4 other chips operating at the same
time (also in the 2 to 3 GHz range), but they are limited to a capacity
of 1/4 of the single chip.  Remember, we are talking SPEED not CAPACITY on a
z/series processor complex, and as long as you don't exceed the capacity,
you will have effectively 4 times the single CPU speed (4 simultaneous
instructions).  

You have to look at how the z/series processors execute individual
instructions to get a better view as well, do you think that a single
processor z/series box can execute a BR(anch) instruction any faster than a
4 CPU one?  Obviously not, they are basically the same physical CPU's that
have been capacity limited.  Unfortunately this example, while accurate,
gets me down to even a smaller picture than I accused you of looking at, but
I felt it was necessary to get the point accross.

Do you see what I mean yet?

Brian

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Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-09 Thread Brian Westerman
The proper, (and probably cheaper) answer to this problem is to add another
smaller CPU to the mix, if you have only 2 CPUs, CICS can't really take
advantage of all of the processor complex as it could.  It's almost
certainly cheaper to add more engines than to upgrade, unless you have an
older box or got a really bad deal.  Depending on the box, you can pick up
CPU's on the 3rd party market for almost laughably small prices.  

In this case, costs should drive your decisions, not misplaced estimates of
capacity.  Do you really have individual CICS tranactions that exceed 50
mips?  Probably not, and it could be just a matter of tuning what you have.
 It always surprises me that a lot of sites think upgrade before tune, (not
that you're one of them), but I realize that IBM is a big proponent of the
upgrade instead of tune philosophy. :)  

Brian

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