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2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer

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Re: PDS to SEQ and back to PDS

2007-07-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike

I have a REXX which builds a member list and uses EXECIO to write each
member preceded by a ./ADD card for IEBUPDTE.

After the flat file is edited, simply use IEBUPDTE to add the members back
to the PDS using the flat file as input.

I can post the source or email it to the OP.



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I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a PDS into a
flat file (for modifications) and then back into a PDS.  Having the
original ISPF stats present in the final PDS is not necessarily a critical
part of the process for us --- nice, but not absolutely necessary.

I have an REXX exec that does the process, but it is not set up to run as
a
batch job.  Would that it were ... sigh.

I have come across the CBT FILE093 solution(s) --- but, there appear to be
many varieties.

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DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer

Hi,

I would like to allocate memory in Common Data Space with DSPSERV Macro and
my requirement is that Data Space survive my Address Space Termination. That
means it remains allocatad after my AS ends and other Address Spaces or an
Exit-Routine can access it.

One of my trial was, to allocate CDS in the name of MASTER (ASID=1) (DSPSERV
...,TTOKEN=(a TCB Token of MASTER)) , but it's not allowed. I get System
Completion Code 01D reason Code xx0002xx.

Is there any trick?

Regards,
Gabor

Environment: OS/390 2.8

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
Gabor

There are various tricks you can use to do this - and most of them involve 
squirreling something away in one of the always there system address spaces 
without them knowing about it.

But - why does your address space have to end?

In my opinion, it would be much safer (and easier) to have a simple do 
nothing address space that owns the CADS - maybe with some sort of common 
storage anchor that contains the ALET and some indication of whether the CADS 
is available. Other users of this CADS can check the anchor control block for 
the ALET and flag bits before attempting to use it (after using TESTART to 
validate the ALET).


Rob Scott
Rocket Software, Inc
275 Grove Street
Newton, MA 02466
617-614-2305
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Subject: DSPSERV

Hi,

I would like to allocate memory in Common Data Space with DSPSERV Macro and my 
requirement is that Data Space survive my Address Space Termination. That means 
it remains allocatad after my AS ends and other Address Spaces or an 
Exit-Routine can access it.

One of my trial was, to allocate CDS in the name of MASTER (ASID=1) (DSPSERV 
...,TTOKEN=(a TCB Token of MASTER)) , but it's not allowed. I get System 
Completion Code 01D reason Code xx0002xx.

Is there any trick?

Regards,
Gabor

Environment: OS/390 2.8

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:08:49 +0200 Gabor Hoffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:My program (EventMonitor, EM) installs an ExitModul under IEFU83 and IEFU84
:Exit. The Code and Buffer (for SMF-Records that are collectet with Exit) are
:in ECSA. Exit and EM communicates with ECB and exchange data over ECSA.

:There are 2 request on this architecture:
:1. Able to end EventMonitor without deinstalling ExitModul, that means
:ExitModul should able to collect SMF-Records further without parent
:AddressSpace (EventMonitor).
:2. If ExitModul runs long time alone, there is not enought bufferspace in
:ECSA. I dont want to allocate to much memory in ECSA, thats why i would like
:to use CADS. Buffering in Common Data Space.

:Can you explain, how i can allocate in the name of master?

I already told you - look up SRBs.

Try, before asking us to code it for you.

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer

Rob,

My program (EventMonitor, EM) installs an ExitModul under IEFU83 and IEFU84
Exit. The Code and Buffer (for SMF-Records that are collectet with Exit) are
in ECSA. Exit and EM communicates with ECB and exchange data over ECSA.

There are 2 request on this architecture:
1. Able to end EventMonitor without deinstalling ExitModul, that means
ExitModul should able to collect SMF-Records further without parent
AddressSpace (EventMonitor).
2. If ExitModul runs long time alone, there is not enought bufferspace in
ECSA. I dont want to allocate to much memory in ECSA, thats why i would like
to use CADS. Buffering in Common Data Space.

Can you explain, how i can allocate in the name of master?

My idea was, that ExitRoutine waits until MASTER writes an SMF-Record and in
this case ExitRoutine runs under ASID=1 and can allocate CADS. I dont know
how to force MASTER to write SMF-Record and dont know if it writes records
at all.

Gabor

On 7/25/07, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gabor

There are various tricks you can use to do this - and most of them involve
squirreling something away in one of the always there system address
spaces without them knowing about it.

But - why does your address space have to end?

In my opinion, it would be much safer (and easier) to have a simple do
nothing address space that owns the CADS - maybe with some sort of common
storage anchor that contains the ALET and some indication of whether the
CADS is available. Other users of this CADS can check the anchor control
block for the ALET and flag bits before attempting to use it (after using
TESTART to validate the ALET).


Rob Scott
Rocket Software, Inc
275 Grove Street
Newton, MA 02466
617-614-2305
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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer

As a mentioned I'm not expert in SRBs and I'm learning MVS system
programming. I'v looked for SRBs in books. If i understand it correct, i can
let an Address Space to run a code in my Address Space. Is it ok?

Gabor

ps: i did'nt ask you to code it for me.


I already told you - look up SRBs.


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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
Gabor

One way to do it is schedule an SRB into *MASTER* and that SRB performs the 
DSPSERV CREATE with TTOKEN.

However, I would still advise against this for the following reasons :

(1) There is a simpler and safer solution.
(2) It is very likely that at some point you will cause problems in either your 
system or (worse still) a customer system whilst your code is perfected - do 
you want to get into that?
(3) Every time there is a problem at a customer site and your fingers are in 
the *MASTER* ASID - you will not be above suspicion.
(4) The fact that you have to ask the question hints that you may not be ready 
to take on the task (apologies if that sounds rude).

Why not have a separate ASID that just owns the CADS - this can be independent 
of your main server address space?


Rob Scott
Rocket Software, Inc
275 Grove Street
Newton, MA 02466
617-614-2305
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Gabor Hoffer
Sent: 25 July 2007 09:09
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DSPSERV

Rob,

My program (EventMonitor, EM) installs an ExitModul under IEFU83 and IEFU84 
Exit. The Code and Buffer (for SMF-Records that are collectet with Exit) are in 
ECSA. Exit and EM communicates with ECB and exchange data over ECSA.

There are 2 request on this architecture:
1. Able to end EventMonitor without deinstalling ExitModul, that means 
ExitModul should able to collect SMF-Records further without parent
AddressSpace (EventMonitor).
2. If ExitModul runs long time alone, there is not enought bufferspace in ECSA. 
I dont want to allocate to much memory in ECSA, thats why i would like to use 
CADS. Buffering in Common Data Space.

Can you explain, how i can allocate in the name of master?

My idea was, that ExitRoutine waits until MASTER writes an SMF-Record and in 
this case ExitRoutine runs under ASID=1 and can allocate CADS. I dont know how 
to force MASTER to write SMF-Record and dont know if it writes records at all.

Gabor

On 7/25/07, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gabor

 There are various tricks you can use to do this - and most of them
 involve squirreling something away in one of the always there system
 address spaces without them knowing about it.

 But - why does your address space have to end?

 In my opinion, it would be much safer (and easier) to have a simple
 do nothing address space that owns the CADS - maybe with some sort
 of common storage anchor that contains the ALET and some indication of
 whether the CADS is available. Other users of this CADS can check the
 anchor control block for the ALET and flag bits before attempting to
 use it (after using TESTART to validate the ALET).


 Rob Scott
 Rocket Software, Inc
 275 Grove Street
 Newton, MA 02466
 617-614-2305
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:44:19 +0200 Gabor Hoffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:As a mentioned I'm not expert in SRBs and I'm learning MVS system
:programming. I'v looked for SRBs in books. If i understand it correct, i can
:let an Address Space to run a code in my Address Space. Is it ok?

True. But much more. It allows any address space to schedule work to be run in
a different address space.

:ps: i did'nt ask you to code it for me.

Certainly sounded like it.

:I already told you - look up SRBs.

: Try, before asking us to code it for you.

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer

Rob,

Separate ASID looks for me also safer and probably I'll choose this method,
but I have to say SRB in *MASTER* sounds prettier.


(4) The fact that you have to ask the question hints that you may not be

ready to take on the task (apologies if that sounds rude).
Not to apologies, I know I have a lot of learning to do.

Gabor

On 7/25/07, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gabor

One way to do it is schedule an SRB into *MASTER* and that SRB performs
the DSPSERV CREATE with TTOKEN.

However, I would still advise against this for the following reasons :

(1) There is a simpler and safer solution.
(2) It is very likely that at some point you will cause problems in either
your system or (worse still) a customer system whilst your code is
perfected - do you want to get into that?
(3) Every time there is a problem at a customer site and your fingers are
in the *MASTER* ASID - you will not be above suspicion.
(4) The fact that you have to ask the question hints that you may not be
ready to take on the task (apologies if that sounds rude).

Why not have a separate ASID that just owns the CADS - this can be
independent of your main server address space?


Rob Scott
Rocket Software, Inc
275 Grove Street
Newton, MA 02466
617-614-2305
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread R.S.

Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
[...]

I've noticed that some recent IBM manuals (maybe only Tivoli
manuals, but still IBM) no longer include the RCF or any electronic
equivalent.   Is there an IBM-wide RCF (where F now stands
for function) that can be used for those manuals not providing
their own?  If so, I've not found it (but haven't searched much,
either).


I always use e-mail (mhvrcfs aatt us.ibm.com) for submitting comments, 
despite it is Tivoli or other IBM brand. It works.


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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer

True. But much more. It allows any address space to schedule work to be run

in
a different address space.



Thanks. I'll try it, but not with *MASTER*. ;-) There is a good example in
book Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces

Gabor

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
By the way, I applaud your decision to convert ECSA usage to a CADS - that is a 
sensible solution.

Remember to maintain the usage of the blocks in the CADS - have some sort of 
high water mark or max size that the installation can tailor - otherwise if 
your main server address space is down for a non-trivial period of time the 
real frames backing the CADS will just keep increasing and you will not be very 
popular . DSPSERV RELEASE can be used to return unused resources back to the 
system.

Good luck


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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Gabor Hoffer
Sent: 25 July 2007 10:15
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DSPSERV

Rob,

Separate ASID looks for me also safer and probably I'll choose this method, but 
I have to say SRB in *MASTER* sounds prettier.

 (4) The fact that you have to ask the question hints that you may not
 be
ready to take on the task (apologies if that sounds rude).
Not to apologies, I know I have a lot of learning to do.

Gabor

On 7/25/07, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gabor

 One way to do it is schedule an SRB into *MASTER* and that SRB
 performs the DSPSERV CREATE with TTOKEN.

 However, I would still advise against this for the following reasons :

 (1) There is a simpler and safer solution.
 (2) It is very likely that at some point you will cause problems in
 either your system or (worse still) a customer system whilst your code
 is perfected - do you want to get into that?
 (3) Every time there is a problem at a customer site and your fingers
 are in the *MASTER* ASID - you will not be above suspicion.
 (4) The fact that you have to ask the question hints that you may not
 be ready to take on the task (apologies if that sounds rude).

 Why not have a separate ASID that just owns the CADS - this can be
 independent of your main server address space?


 Rob Scott
 Rocket Software, Inc
 275 Grove Street
 Newton, MA 02466
 617-614-2305
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine

2007-07-25 Thread Peter Relson
OK, I'll bite. Why do you need to determine?

If you have any reason to think that the page is protected (presumably
because you did it or might have done it), then you can just unprotect it.
A page does not need to be protected in order to successfully unprotect.
Note that protection is not a count it is a toggle. Two protects
followed by one unprotect leaves the page not protected..

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z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Peter Relson
You're off the hook, and if you've yet taken no action, it would be
interesting to let it run its course and see whether Tech Pubs agrees
with us.
The way our ID process seems to work today (at least in Poughkeepsie),
if someone suggests a change, the book owner contacts the technical
owner to see if (s)he agrees. So the ID person is not doing the agreeing.

I've also been informed that, to my dismay, no updates will happen to
any old books ever. Updates will be made only in the forthcoming R9
books.

I've noticed that some recent IBM manuals (maybe only Tivoli
manuals, but still IBM) no longer include the RCF or any electronic
equivalent.   Is there an IBM-wide RCF (where F now stands
for function) that can be used for those manuals not providing
their own?  If so, I've not found it (but haven't searched much,
either).

Ugghh. The z/OS MVS books (i.e., the ones I am involved with) all have a
page at the end Readers' Comments -- We'd Like to Hear from You.
I'm not sure why there is no electronic mechanism. I'll inquire.

But that is not consistent across the z/OS elements, unfortunately.
I'll ask about that too.

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z/OS Core Technology Design

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Console named *DICNsysclone.

2007-07-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
Can anyone enlighten me what this (EMCS) console is for? It probably appears 
with z/OS 1.7 and up; we get it under 1.8 as the only console messages are 
routed to that under 1.6 get broadcast to all active consoles in the sysplex.
This console was opened from CONSOLE address space, has no key, and does have a 
'terminal name' that my network collegue tells me we don't have.
-
 CN=*DICNS22 STATUS=ACNID=0315 KEY=NONE  
   SYS=T2W2 ASID=000A JOBNAME= JOBID=
   HC=N AUTO=N DOM=ALLTERMNAME=*DICNS22  
   MONITOR=  
   CMDSYS=T2W2   
   LEVEL=ALL AUTH= INFO  
   MSCOPE=T2W2   
   ROUTCDE=1-10,12-15
   INTIDS=N UNKNIDS=N
   ALERTPCT=100  
   QUEUED=0  QLIMIT=1
   SIZEUSED=6464K MAXSIZE=2097152K   
Thanks and regards, Barbara Nitz
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Re: Console named *DICNsysclone.

2007-07-25 Thread Bob Shannon
Interesting. We have them too. I have no clue as to what they are.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Wright
Peter Relson wrote on 2007-07-25 07:39:42:

 snip
 Ugghh. The z/OS MVS books (i.e., the ones I am involved with) all have a
 page at the end Readers' Comments -- We'd Like to Hear from You.
 I'm not sure why there is no electronic mechanism. I'll inquire.

 But that is not consistent across the z/OS elements, unfortunately.
 I'll ask about that too.

I found the following in the front matter of several books from the z/OS
MVS bookshelf:

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IBM welcomes your comments. A form for readers’ comments may be provided at
the back of this document, or you may address your comments to the
following address:

International Business Machines Corporation
Department 55JA, Mail Station P384
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FAX (United States  Canada): 1+845+432-9405
FAX (Other Countries):
  Your International Access Code +1+845+432-9405

IBMLink™ (United States customers only): IBMUSM10(MHVRCFS)
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
World Wide Web: www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/webqs.html

If you would like a reply, be sure to include your name, address, telephone
number, or FAX number.

Make sure to include the following in your comment or note:
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v Page number or topic related to your comment

When you send information to IBM, you grant IBM a nonexclusive right to use
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My personal favorite, used often, is the internet e-mail address.  There is
a good, disciplined process to ensure that the comments get responses.

I don't have an answer regarding publications from other elements of z/OS,
but I'll look in tandem with Peter.

Bob Wright - MVS Service Aids

Re: Tools for Validating COBOL Source

2007-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
 
 The oft-mentioned IBM WebSphere Developer for System z (WDz) 
 performs excellent COBOL syntax validation on your PC.
 
 http://www.ibm.com/software/awdtools/devzseries/
 
 You can see some recorded demonstrations which include syntax checking
 here:
 
 http://websphere.dfw.ibm.com/whidemo/atdemo_wsed_zosad_recorded.html
 
 If you are a CICS Transaction Server Version 3 licensee then 
 you already can get a no-charge license for one full-function 
 copy (sans IBM support; it's free after all).  As mentioned 
 previously, order the no-charge CICS Service Flow Feature to 
 get this WDz license. 

Confusion again, but is it yours or mine?  My recollection of the
explanation given at an IBM workshop on CICS Web Services is that the
single-seat WDz license comes with CICS TS 3.x itself, and that the SFF
granted an additional ten (10) limited-to-SFF-use licenses; both
without IBM support.  You might check with Leigh Compton at the Dallas
Systems Center to verify.

 (There was a deadline that past for 
 ordering SFF for CICS Transaction Server V3.1.  If you got in 
 before the deadline, as advertised here, congratulations.  If 
 you didn't, sit tight for a little bit.  Closer to the end of 
 the year ordering should open back up for the new CICS 
 Transaction Server V3.2 Service Flow Feature.)

Actually, you can *order* the TS 3.2 SFF concurrently with CICS TS 3.2,
with the SFF delivery to occur later (I think 4th quarter 2007 is the
target).  That's what we did, and it's in the TS 3.2 Announcement Letter
that way.

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Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Wright
I wrote on 2007-07-25 08:19:01:

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CA-DISK

2007-07-25 Thread Dean Montevago
Hi,

Are there any other OEM products that preform similar functions as
CA-Disk ?

TIA
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Re: CA-DISK

2007-07-25 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Are there any other OEM products that preform similar functions as
CA-Disk ?

Innovation's FDR product(s).


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Re: CA-DISK

2007-07-25 Thread Itschak Mugzach
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Are there any other OEM products that preform similar functions as 
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Innovation's FDR product(s).


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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Kingston
Bill,

An easy way Could you not place the CLIST in a read only dataset,
and check the userid within the CLIST against a pre-defined table
defined within the code?

Or a more involved way... you could write a quick assembler program,
executed from the clist, which could check a pre-built RACF resource for
the access and throw a RACF error if not authorised?

Or an even more involved way write a dataset open exit which will
cause an abend if the wrong user tries to open the clist?

Loads of ways to skin a cat.

Phil. 

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Is there any way to secure certain clist from unauthorized use?
For example if I don't want applications to get into the wlm,
Application, how would I do it?  If it can be done.
Thanks In Advance.




Bill Carroll


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Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-25 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:36 PM
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Subject: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

Today I was at another doctors office waiting for my appointment and was
surprised when I saw that Xephon was now apart of Z/Journal.
So now if you have a complaint you can complain to IBM (not sure if this
is good or not).
SNIP

I don't think IBM owns z/JOURNAL. I think Bob Thomas does. So if you
have a problem with Xephon, you might want to complain to him.

Later,
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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:10:56 +0100 Phil Kingston
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:An easy way Could you not place the CLIST in a read only dataset,
:and check the userid within the CLIST against a pre-defined table
:defined within the code?

:Or a more involved way... you could write a quick assembler program,
:executed from the clist, which could check a pre-built RACF resource for
:the access and throw a RACF error if not authorised?

:Or an even more involved way write a dataset open exit which will
:cause an abend if the wrong user tries to open the clist?

:Loads of ways to skin a cat.

None of them truly effective.

One must protect the functions, not how the functions are invoked.

By protecting the clist, one protects a specific way of getting there. But
there are other ways, such as writing ones own clist. 

Security by obscurity is NOT security.

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Paul D'Angelo
Gabor

Wouldnt  this design be much cleaner  by starting  a second address space 
whose
sole purpose is to own the dataspace ?
Basically it would contain all the Data Space Code to initialize/create 
and destroy the dataspace and a Console Routine to stop this Address 
space.

Granted not as elagant as an SRB scheduled to run in the MASTER Address 
Space but alot cleaner.

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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread J R

Unfortunately, read only access doesn't prevent someone
from copying the CLIST and removing any userid checks
from it, whether they be a pre-defined table or a called
RACF interface.

How would the dataset open exit be invoked?



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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:10:56 +0100

Bill,

An easy way Could you not place the CLIST in a read only dataset,
and check the userid within the CLIST against a pre-defined table
defined within the code?

Or a more involved way... you could write a quick assembler program,
executed from the clist, which could check a pre-built RACF resource for
the access and throw a RACF error if not authorised?

Or an even more involved way write a dataset open exit which will
cause an abend if the wrong user tries to open the clist?

Loads of ways to skin a cat.

Phil.

z/OS Systems Programming Consultant
Website  www.zostek.com



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Subject: Secure clist

Is there any way to secure certain clist from unauthorized use?
For example if I don't want applications to get into the wlm,
Application, how would I do it?  If it can be done.
Thanks In Advance.




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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Under RACF I have placed a CLIST in a secured data set and had RACF set to
EXEC rather than READ on the data set.

Seemed to work and it did not impact the usage of the CLIST.

Lizette

 
 Unfortunately, read only access doesn't prevent someone
 from copying the CLIST and removing any userid checks
 from it, whether they be a pre-defined table or a called
 RACF interface.
 
 How would the dataset open exit be invoked?

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Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:39:42 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:

I've also been informed that, to my dismay, no updates will happen to
any old books ever. Updates will be made only in the forthcoming R9
books.

For the matter that started this thread, that FIN-analogue is
sufficient.  Of course, if the update is sufficiently urgent,
such as removing a mention of Hercules, there will be a
deviation from the policy.

Ugghh. The z/OS MVS books (i.e., the ones I am involved with) all have a
page at the end Readers' Comments -- We'd Like to Hear from You.
I'm not sure why there is no electronic mechanism. I'll inquire.

It would be useful if the HTML (at least) version of the Comments
page contained a URL such as:

mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... but perhaps that's a topic for another (global) RCF.

-- gil

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Re: PDS to SEQ and back to PDS

2007-07-25 Thread Earnie Allen
We have PDSMAN in-shop, but I do not believe I can use it for this
particular change because not only is the ACCT info different in most
cases, but also because there does not now exist any standard ACCT field
info to key on and do the replace.  Thus the need for the project ... not
only complete ACCT info, but also standardization of the JOB card(s).



==

I just completed changes to the JOB account code in over a hundred PDS
members using PDSMAN.  This has been in our shop for a long time and I
don't know who the current vendor is.  But if someone is interested, I
probably can I track down some contact information.

Walter Rue
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Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-25 Thread Ed Gould

All I can say is that in a full page spread is:

Did you know that Xephon is now a division of z/Journal?
and the rest of the page is verbage

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On Jul 25, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Thompson, Steve wrote:


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ed Gould
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

Today I was at another doctors office waiting for my appointment  
and was

surprised when I saw that Xephon was now apart of Z/Journal.
So now if you have a complaint you can complain to IBM (not sure if  
this

is good or not).
SNIP

I don't think IBM owns z/JOURNAL. I think Bob Thomas does. So if you
have a problem with Xephon, you might want to complain to him.

Later,
Steve Thompson

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AW: Console named *DICNsysclone.

2007-07-25 Thread Faber, Hermann
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von 
Bob Shannon
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2007 14:08
An: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: Console named *DICNsysclone.

Interesting. We have them too. I have no clue as to what they are.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software


Don't know if that's it what your are looking for, these are the messages 
showing the console names at ipl.

IEA630I  OPERATOR *SYSLG0S NOW ACTIVE,   SYSTEM=CP25, LU=*SYSLG0S 
IEA630I  OPERATOR *DICNS0S NOW ACTIVE,   SYSTEM=CP25, LU=*DICNS0S 
IEA630I  OPERATOR *ROUTE0S NOW ACTIVE,   SYSTEM=CP25, LU=ROUTEALL 

-- 
IEA630I OPERATOR opername NOW ACTIVE, SYSTEM=sysname, LU=unitname  
   
Explanation:  Multiple console support (MCS) activated an operator on a
Time Sharing Option Extensions (TSO/E) terminal.   
   
In the message text:   
   
opername  The userid or console name of the TSO/E operator.
   
sysname   The name of the system to which the operator logged on. The  
  system name is specified on the SYSNAME parameter in the 
  IEASYSxx parmlib member. 
   
unitname  The logical unit name. This name identifies the physical 
  location of the terminal that the TSO/E operator used to logon   
  to the system.   
   
System Action:  The system continues processing.   

Hermann

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Paul D'Angelo
 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:15 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DSPSERV
 
 Gabor
 
 Wouldnt  this design be much cleaner  by starting  a second address space
 whose
 sole purpose is to own the dataspace ?
 Basically it would contain all the Data Space Code to initialize/create
 and destroy the dataspace and a Console Routine to stop this Address
 space.
 
 Granted not as elagant as an SRB scheduled to run in the MASTER Address
 Space but alot cleaner.
 
 Paul D'Angelo

I agree that it may be cleaner to use an anchor space for the CADS.
However, adding a CADS to the PASN-AL will add the same ALET to all
active address spaces. There may be race conditions when the owning
space terminates and another space adds its own unrelated CADS to
the PASN-AL. The ALET may be reused. Also, the CADS should be
allocated in a system key to prevent unauthorized programs from
mucking with it.

It may be cleaner to use an ordinary SCOPE=PRIVATE data space that
is anchored only to the single PASN-AL of the owning address space
and use space-switch PC routines to access the private data space.
This will ensure that the only access to the data space is through
trusted PC routines. It also ensures that when the owning address
space terminates, any client code running will immediately lose
their bind to the owning address space (probably a S0D5 or S0D6
abend upon redispatch).

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Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-25 Thread Chuck Arney
Perhaps you are thinking of the Bob Thomas that works for IBM.  However, the
publisher of z/Journal is a different Bob Thomas and he does not work for
IBM.

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 All I can say is that in a full page spread is:
 
 Did you know that Xephon is now a division of z/Journal?
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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:09:42 -0600 Jeffrey D. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: -Original Message-
: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
: Behalf Of Paul D'Angelo
: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:15 AM
: To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
: Subject: Re: DSPSERV
 
: Gabor
 
: Wouldnt  this design be much cleaner  by starting  a second address space
: whose
: sole purpose is to own the dataspace ?
: Basically it would contain all the Data Space Code to initialize/create
: and destroy the dataspace and a Console Routine to stop this Address
: space.
 
: Granted not as elagant as an SRB scheduled to run in the MASTER Address
: Space but alot cleaner.

:I agree that it may be cleaner to use an anchor space for the CADS.
:However, adding a CADS to the PASN-AL will add the same ALET to all
:active address spaces. There may be race conditions when the owning
:space terminates and another space adds its own unrelated CADS to
:the PASN-AL.

Only if the OS is brain dead and does not up the sequence number.

True, it can be cycled thru the 256 times, but I would hardly call that a
race condition.

: The ALET may be reused. Also, the CADS should be
:allocated in a system key to prevent unauthorized programs from
:mucking with it.

:It may be cleaner to use an ordinary SCOPE=PRIVATE data space that
:is anchored only to the single PASN-AL of the owning address space
:and use space-switch PC routines to access the private data space.
:This will ensure that the only access to the data space is through
:trusted PC routines. It also ensures that when the owning address
:space terminates, any client code running will immediately lose
:their bind to the owning address space (probably a S0D5 or S0D6
:abend upon redispatch).

S058.

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Re: Tools for Validating COBOL Source

2007-07-25 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
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 Subject: Re: Tools for Validating COBOL Source
 
 The oft-mentioned IBM WebSphere Developer for System z (WDz) performs
 excellent COBOL syntax validation on your PC.
Snipped 
 Why should you care?  In addition to the time savings and productivity
 benefits (which can be measured in money terms), if you're doing COBOL
 syntax checking on your PC under WDz you're probably going to avoid some
 compile cycles on your mainframe.  That could mean you save some CPU on
 your development/test LPAR(s).  And that could mean you save some more
 money.  This is especially true if you're CPU-starving your developers so
 that they cannot compile quickly enough during their prime shift.
 Developers cost money, so I'm a big advocate of keeping them happy and
 productive so they can do a good job.

Yes, but the cost per seat is extremely high.  When I was working on a
CICS/TS web-enabled application last year and wanted to get a copy of WDz
(or maybe it was Eclipse with Websphere addons, not sure now), I was told
that it would cost USD$7K for me to be allowed to run that software on my
company PC with CICS and DB2 support included (I needed both).  No way was
that happening.  I don't think I'm alone in wanting better application tools
that the company budget just cannot support.  And it's not just IBM,
MicroFocus COBOL has the same problem -- good tool, extreme cost per seat
(about USD$8K the last time I checked a few years back).  Even with
negotiated volume discounts, thousands per seat is just unsupportable.

One or ten free copies of WDz do no one but the sysprog staff any good,
because hundreds of ordinary developers never get to use them.

For my project, I wound up using open source HTML and java tools to get the
web side of the job done.  Somewhat clumsier, but it worked and the price
was right.

Peter

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Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-25 Thread Bob Shannon
All I can say is that in a full page spread is:

Did you know that Xephon is now a division of z/Journal?
and the rest of the page is verbage

That's fine, but IBM Corporation does not publish zJournal.

Bob Shannon
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Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:26:16 -0400, Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For the first part,

IP VERBX VSMDATA 'GLOBal SUMMary'

followed by

F '/ 8'

might be easier to deal with.

Bob

Perhaps it is a little more readable.   I still liked doing a find on
KEY 8 better because using '/ 8' you miss the header line that
says CSA (for those of us that don't know all our common SPs off 
the top of our head).

Anyway, it still is a 2 step process.  I was wondering if there was some way
to do it in a single command that I couldn't figure out.

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Mark Zelden wrote:
...
 So I searched the archives... and I couldn't find anything on using IPCS
 to do this (cookbook approach).  So what would one do if they didn't have
 MXI or Omegamon CSA monitor etc.?

 Here is what I did... but not being an IPCS expert, I don't know if there
 is an easier way:

 Start IPCS session (active or dump)

 IP VERBX VSMDATA
   Do a F 'KEY 8'
   Look for DATA FOLLOWS FOR CSA SUBPOOL nnn, KEY 8'
 Look at FQE(s) following DQE(s)
 Add AREA + SIZE to get address
   If no FQE, address is AREA in DQE  (owner gone in some cases)


 Split screen, start another IPCS session

 IP VERBX VSMDATA 'OWNCOMM DETAIL SORTBY(ADDR) CONTENTS(NO)'
   Find job name at the address from above

 Repeat for all key 8 found in VERBX VSMDATA report


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Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-25 Thread John Eells

Thompson, Steve wrote:

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Subject: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

Today I was at another doctors office waiting for my appointment and was
surprised when I saw that Xephon was now apart of Z/Journal.
So now if you have a complaint you can complain to IBM (not sure if this
is good or not).
SNIP

I don't think IBM owns z/JOURNAL. I think Bob Thomas does. So if you
have a problem with Xephon, you might want to complain to him.

snip

So far as I know, IBM does not own zJournal.  The About page 
for zJournal can be found at:


http://www.zjournal.com/index.cfm?section=about

It appears to say that zJournal is a product of Thomas 
Communications, Inc.


So while you can complain to us about nearly anything (smile), 
it's not likely to be very effective in this case.


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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Wayne Driscoll
But what was purpose of this?  Was there a security exposure identified?
If so, what was it?  Or was it a case of well, it's always been done
this way.

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.


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On Jul 24, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:

 All programs in the linklist are accessible directly, what is the
 possible value of protecting (from read, update protection is  
 mandatory)
 a linklist dataset?  I mean if I can execute tso iefbr14, what is the
 drawback of me executing tso call 'sys1.linklib(iefbr14)'  Why would
 allowing the second be a security exposure?

 Wayne Driscoll
 Product Developer
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 NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.



Wayne,

We did not allow that it was done by PCF.

Ed

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Mailing lists / online forums for IBM mainframers

2007-07-25 Thread Eric Loriaux
Mailing lists / online forums for IBM mainframers

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Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Chris Steffens
Does anyone know of a slick (accurate) way to compare two files which reside 
on two seperate tapes?

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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:18:03 -0500 Chris Steffens
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:Does anyone know of a slick (accurate) way to compare two files which reside 
:on two seperate tapes?

Simple equal/not equal? IEBCOMPR.

More complex? ISPF source compare can run batch.

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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Jacobs
Wouldn't IEBCOMPR work? 

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Does anyone know of a slick (accurate) way to compare two files which
reside on two seperate tapes?

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SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Mark H. Young
We just IPL'd our sand box with z/OS 1.7 and are muddling thru.  One thing 
I've noticed though, is in SDSF from the:

HQX7720 -  SDSF PRIMARY OPTION MENU  --

At the bottom of the screen, we have:

COMMAND INPUT === SCROLL === 
CSR

instead of at the TOP of that screen, like on our old z/OS 1.4 system.

I've hunted and pecked my way around/thru the help and extended help index, 
but still can't figure out what to set and/or reset to move the CMD prompt to
the TOP.  I've tried from SDSF and just the *ISPF Primary Option Menu*
menu bar at the top.  Nada.

Every once in a while, it goes to the bottom of my screen on my old z/OS 1.4 
system, but I'm not sure why.  I usually just delete the ISF members in 
ISPPROF and it resets.  Don't want to do that here.

Any ideas.

THANX,
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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Jul 2007 08:22:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Binyamin Dissen)
wrote:

:Does anyone know of a slick (accurate) way to compare two files which reside 
:on two seperate tapes?

Simple equal/not equal? IEBCOMPR.

More complex? ISPF source compare can run batch.

More complex comparisons can be done using DFSORT.

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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Earnie Allen
Mark ... that ISPF quirk ...

If you have a ISPF Primary Option of '0', you should be able to correct
that.

0 Settings  Terminal and user parameters




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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Steely
From the SDSF command line type in SETTINGS. Then remove the / from the
command line at bottom. 

Thank You

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Subject: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

We just IPL'd our sand box with z/OS 1.7 and are muddling thru.  One
thing I've noticed though, is in SDSF from the:

HQX7720 -  SDSF PRIMARY OPTION MENU  --

At the bottom of the screen, we have:

COMMAND INPUT ===
SCROLL === CSR

instead of at the TOP of that screen, like on our old z/OS 1.4 system.

I've hunted and pecked my way around/thru the help and extended help
index, but still can't figure out what to set and/or reset to move the
CMD prompt to the TOP.  I've tried from SDSF and just the *ISPF Primary
Option Menu* menu bar at the top.  Nada.

Every once in a while, it goes to the bottom of my screen on my old z/OS
1.4 system, but I'm not sure why.  I usually just delete the ISF
members in ISPPROF and it resets.  Don't want to do that here.

Any ideas.

THANX,
Mark

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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Steely
Trust me ...that's how I took care of that problem here.  

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Mark ... that ISPF quirk ...

If you have a ISPF Primary Option of '0', you should be able to correct
that.

0 Settings  Terminal and user parameters




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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Rob Scott wrote:

By the way, I applaud your decision to convert ECSA usage to a CADS - that is a 
sensible solution.
  


Personally, I don't like SCOPE=COMMON data spaces (CADS). Exceeding 
MAXCAD requires an IPL. (The default is 50.) And, don't forget the 
maximum number of entries in a PASN-AL is only 510 and each CADS reduces 
the number of SCOPE=SINGLE and SCOPE=ALL data spaces a program can 
address through its PASN-AL! If everyone decided to convert their ECSA 
requirements to CADS overnight, we'd likely be in real trouble right 
now. Yikes!


I'd rather see SCOPE=ALL data spaces with ALESERV SEARCH/ADD used where 
needed. And, let's not forget IARVSERV, for sharing 31-bit virtual 
storage  -- including that residing within data spaces -- and, of 
course, 64-bit shared memory objects which have been around for a while now.


Yes, I realize these options aren't always practical and every product's 
requirements differ. I'm just saying that CADS would be just about dead 
last on my list of alternatives to study.


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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:32:41 -0600 Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:On 25 Jul 2007 08:22:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Binyamin Dissen)
:wrote:

::Does anyone know of a slick (accurate) way to compare two files which 
reside 
::on two seperate tapes?

:Simple equal/not equal? IEBCOMPR.

:More complex? ISPF source compare can run batch.

:More complex comparisons can be done using DFSORT.

DFSORT can do a line compare, detecting inserts, reformats and deletes?

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SYSVIEW 11.5

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Steely
I know this is a long shot, but I need some help and not a lot of time.
We use SYSVIEW to cut CICS records. Sysview 11,5 was installed and we
noticed 3 month later that the reports that we generate to record
transaction count, response time, and number of transactions stopped
working. This is when I found out SYSVIEW went to using Easytrieve for
these reports. I having problems using this approach. I have an open
issue with CA for both product and they are not providing a quick
answer. 
 
Has anyone written anything to process these records from SYSVIEW 11.5
and produce these type of CICS reports.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thank You 

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Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells
 
 [ snip ]
 
 So while you can complain to us about nearly anything (smile), . . .

My boomerang won't come back.  :-D

-jc-

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
Ed

I thought that a CADS approach to intercepting SMF records was appropriate - 
like you I would not recommend a blanket replacement of ECSA with CADS.

Using CADS as a intercept record buffer from IEFU8x has a fairly short 
path-length and is a safe method of performing this specific task - there may 
be more elegant ways of doing the same thing.



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Edward Jaffe
Sent: 25 July 2007 16:40
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DSPSERV

Rob Scott wrote:
 By the way, I applaud your decision to convert ECSA usage to a CADS - that is 
 a sensible solution.


Personally, I don't like SCOPE=COMMON data spaces (CADS). Exceeding MAXCAD 
requires an IPL. (The default is 50.) And, don't forget the maximum number of 
entries in a PASN-AL is only 510 and each CADS reduces the number of 
SCOPE=SINGLE and SCOPE=ALL data spaces a program can address through its 
PASN-AL! If everyone decided to convert their ECSA requirements to CADS 
overnight, we'd likely be in real trouble right now. Yikes!

I'd rather see SCOPE=ALL data spaces with ALESERV SEARCH/ADD used where needed. 
And, let's not forget IARVSERV, for sharing 31-bit virtual storage  -- 
including that residing within data spaces -- and, of course, 64-bit shared 
memory objects which have been around for a while now.

Yes, I realize these options aren't always practical and every product's 
requirements differ. I'm just saying that CADS would be just about dead last on 
my list of alternatives to study.

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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:39:03 -0400, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Under RACF I have placed a CLIST in a secured data set and had RACF set to
EXEC rather than READ on the data set.

Seemed to work and it did not impact the usage of the CLIST.

I can believe that would work for a data set in SYSPROC, but I believe it
would not work for SYSEXEC.

It still has the problem that Binyamin noted, though.  You really need to
protect access to the data or functions the CLIST performs, as otherwise the
user can simply take those actions himself when he finds out in detail what
the CLIST does.

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:49 AM
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 Subject: Re: DSPSERV
 
 
 Ed
 
 I thought that a CADS approach to intercepting SMF records 
 was appropriate - like you I would not recommend a blanket 
 replacement of ECSA with CADS.
 
 Using CADS as a intercept record buffer from IEFU8x has a 
 fairly short path-length and is a safe method of performing 
 this specific task - there may be more elegant ways of doing 
 the same thing.
 
 
 
 Rob Scott

I'm likely insane, but I'd like to see some common storage like [E]CSA
in the above the bar area. Simple SAM64 to switch to AMODE(64), store
the data, then SAMxx to go back to 31 or 24 bit amode.

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Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip-


My boomerang won't come back.  :-D
 


-unsnip
How's that wad of gum on the bedpost, John?  :-D

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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Earnie Allen
For just such times as that (rare cases where for some reason the command
line shows up other than where I expect) .. I have a couple of clists that
I store in a system SYSPROC library.

If my command line is at the BOTTOM and I want it on TOP ...

(CMDLNTOP)

PROC 0
SET ZPLACE = ASIS
ISPEXEC VPUT ZPLACE
END


If my command line is at the TOP and I want it on the BOTTOM ...

(CMDLNBOT)

PROC 0
SET ZPLACE = BOTTOM
ISPEXEC VPUT ZPLACE
END



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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Fochtman

--snip--


I can believe that would work for a data set in SYSPROC, but I believe it
would not work for SYSEXEC.

It still has the problem that Binyamin noted, though.  You really need to
protect access to the data or functions the CLIST performs, as otherwise the
user can simply take those actions himself when he finds out in detail what
the CLIST does.
 


--unsnip-
I have to agree with Walt and Binyamin; secure the function(s) or 
programs, as appropriate. That's what we did at Clearing. Side benefit: 
it drove auditors absolutely ballistic. They could see it on the panels, 
but couldn't access the function. According to them, nobody should even 
be able to see the panel entries. Their frustration level was QUITE 
amusing, especially when management agreed with our approach.


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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Fochtman

--snip


I'm likely insane, but I'd like to see some common storage like [E]CSA
in the above the bar area. Simple SAM64 to switch to AMODE(64), store
the data, then SAMxx to go back to 31 or 24 bit amode.
 


-unsnip---
John, I don't think that's such an insane idea, but keep in mind the 
Universal Resource Law. 


Any resource, when made available, is immediately subject to abuse.

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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:51:11 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:39:03 -0400, Lizette Koehler
Under RACF I have placed a CLIST in a secured data set and had RACF set to
EXEC rather than READ on the data set.
Seemed to work and it did not impact the usage of the CLIST.

I can believe that would work for a data set in SYSPROC, but I believe it
would not work for SYSEXEC.

???

Why?  Conway's law again?

What happens if the programmer uses the API, with a DDNAME other than
either SYSPROC or SYSEXEC?  What happens if the programmer dynallocs
SYSPROC and then uses the API?  What's so special about the DD name
SYSPROC?  Is all this clearly documented?

It still has the problem that Binyamin noted, though.  You really need to
protect access to the data or functions the CLIST performs, as otherwise the
user can simply take those actions himself when he finds out in detail what
the CLIST does.

Amen.  Protect the resources lest the intruder improvise the procedures.

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One Good Thing about IBMLink

2007-07-25 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I notice that lately (I believe this behavior is new), the E-mail
updates that I receive of PMR updates have the Abstract appended
to the Subject header.  This is useful.  I'll let others worry
about whether they can access IBMLink to view the update.

BTW, I notice that AST notifies me that PQ96247, resolved and
dormant for 2 1/2 years was updated last week.  I compared with my
cached copy and found no changes other than to the Last Changed
header (self-fulfilling prophecy?).  Is there modified text not
visible to customers, or did someone inadvertently Edit, then Save
rather than Cancel?

I always get nervous when an APAR on SuperC springs back to life
because SuperC has been so fragile in my experience.

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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Mark H. Young
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:33:53 -0400, Earnie Allen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark ... that ISPF quirk ...

If you have a ISPF Primary Option of '0', you should be able to correct that.

0 Settings  Terminal and user parameters




Earnie Allen
Senior Systems Programmer
MVS Systems Software
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Ahem.I did *SAY* SDSF Quirk, didn't I??  It don't happen in ISPF.

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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Mark H. Young
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:33:49 -0500, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

From the SDSF command line type in SETTINGS. Then remove the / from the
command line at bottom.

Thank You


YES, that worked just fine.  

I am a hater of bottom of the page command lines.
So the *menu* from the toolbar and/or *0* settings were already explored.

But as I said, it was an SDSF Quirk, and NOT ISPF.

THANX

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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Mark H. Young
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:38:33 -0400, Earnie Allen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For just such times as that (rare cases where for some reason the command
line shows up other than where I expect) .. I have a couple of clists that
I store in a system SYSPROC library.

If my command line is at the BOTTOM and I want it on TOP ...

(CMDLNTOP)

PROC 0
SET ZPLACE = ASIS
ISPEXEC VPUT ZPLACE
END


If my command line is at the TOP and I want it on the BOTTOM ...

(CMDLNBOT)

PROC 0
SET ZPLACE = BOTTOM
ISPEXEC VPUT ZPLACE
END



Earnie Allen
Senior Systems Programmer
MVS Systems Software

Thanx Earnie for these little tidbits.  I will keep them stored in my little 
bag of 
tricks, ay?!  Appreciate the help.

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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Earnie Allen
Yeah.. noticed that ... later.

We didn't experience that when we went to 1.7 .. or when going to 1.8 a
couple of weeks or so ago.



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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:33:53 -0400, Earnie Allen
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Mark ... that ISPF quirk ...

If you have a ISPF Primary Option of '0', you should be able to correct
that.

0 Settings  Terminal and user parameters




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Ahem.I did *SAY* SDSF Quirk, didn't I??  It don't happen in ISPF.

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Re: Mailing lists / online forums for IBM mainframers

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Vitale
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VMESA-L has morphed into IBMVM at LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 

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 Mailing lists / online forums for IBM mainframers
 
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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:30:44 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

There's just a tad bit of virtual storage up there to use. By default it
is 510T. ;-) But for a vendor to use it, they must ensure a minimum
OS level of z/OS 1.5.  Since 1.6 EOS is September, developing something
new that uses shared storage above the bar shouldn't be an issue.

Using my RXSTOR64 exec, I still can't spot any users on z/OS 1.8.
 
 
Ah... then you are not using RLS (SMSVSAM) are you?  
 
We are and at z/OS 1.8 with RLSABOVETHEBARMAXPOOLSIZE(ALL,2700) 
specified we are seeing about 2700M above the bar shared (when things get 
busy).  
 
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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Mark Zelden wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:56:00 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

I'm likely insane, but I'd like to see some common storage like [E]CSA
in the above the bar area. Simple SAM64 to switch to AMODE(64), store
the data, then SAMxx to go back to 31 or 24 bit amode.




There's just a tad bit of virtual storage up there to use. By default it
is 510T. ;-) But for a vendor to use it, they must ensure a minimum
OS level of z/OS 1.5.  Since 1.6 EOS is September, developing something
new that uses shared storage above the bar shouldn't be an issue.

Using my RXSTOR64 exec, I still can't spot any users on z/OS 1.8.
  


Mark, What John wants is common storage above the bar ... not just 
shared storage. It's a common request. (No pun intended.) O:-)


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Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-25 Thread Mark H. Young
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:36:04 -0400, Earnie Allen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah.. noticed that ... later.

We didn't experience that when we went to 1.7 .. or when going to 1.8 a
couple of weeks or so ago.



Earnie Allen
Senior Systems Programmer
MVS Systems Software

What I've got to figure out is why it sometimes slips into that mode on my 
z/OS 1.4 system, clear out of the blue.  It's nice to now know how to fix it
quick, but WHY does it happen to begin with?  Oh, another mystery.  So it's
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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Reda, John
If you are a SyncSort 1.2 customer.  There is a simple 2 step
application that will create 3 files: additions, deletions and inserted
records.  If you would like further information on how to do this please
contact me offline and I will send you a manual which demonstrates how
to do this using the JOIN feature. 

John Reda
Syncsort, Inc.
201-930-8260

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DFSORT can do a line compare, detecting inserts, reformats and deletes?

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:56:00 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm likely insane, but I'd like to see some common storage like [E]CSA
in the above the bar area. Simple SAM64 to switch to AMODE(64), store
the data, then SAMxx to go back to 31 or 24 bit amode.


There's just a tad bit of virtual storage up there to use. By default it
is 510T. ;-) But for a vendor to use it, they must ensure a minimum
OS level of z/OS 1.5.  Since 1.6 EOS is September, developing something
new that uses shared storage above the bar shouldn't be an issue.

Using my RXSTOR64 exec, I still can't spot any users on z/OS 1.8.

Mark
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Unable to display Extended characters (aka Spanish) in SDSF

2007-07-25 Thread Chauhan, Jasbir
Running z/OS 1.7 -- Ran a job that creates Letters in Spanish. These
Letters do print in Spanish, when sent to a printer -- but when
displayed in SDSF, the extended attributes are missing. Any ideas.

Regards,
Jasbir

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Re: Unable to display Extended characters (aka Spanish) in SDSF

2007-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chauhan, Jasbir
 
 Running z/OS 1.7 -- Ran a job that creates Letters in 
 Spanish. These Letters do print in Spanish, when sent to a 
 printer -- but when displayed in SDSF, the extended 
 attributes are missing. Any ideas.

Code page?

-jc-

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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Ed Gould

On Jul 25, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:

But what was purpose of this?  Was there a security exposure  
identified?

If so, what was it?  Or was it a case of well, it's always been done
this way.

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.



No there had been issue of people running ICKDSF and other programs  
under TSO that caused issues.


Ed

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Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:51:32 -0500, Tom Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:30:44 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

There's just a tad bit of virtual storage up there to use. By default it
is 510T. ;-) But for a vendor to use it, they must ensure a minimum
OS level of z/OS 1.5.  Since 1.6 EOS is September, developing something
new that uses shared storage above the bar shouldn't be an issue.

Using my RXSTOR64 exec, I still can't spot any users on z/OS 1.8.


Ah... then you are not using RLS (SMSVSAM) are you?

We are and at z/OS 1.8 with RLSABOVETHEBARMAXPOOLSIZE(ALL,2700)
specified we are seeing about 2700M above the bar shared (when things get
busy).


We are in a couple of sysplexes, but 1.8 is still being rolled out and we
haven't exploited that change yet (skipped 1.7 where this was introduced).  

But I guess you are confirming my code works.   Thanks.

Mark
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Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Schuster
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:27:15 -0400, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, I'll bite. Why do you need to determine?

If you have any reason to think that the page is protected (presumably
because you did it or might have done it), then you can just unprotect it.
A page does not need to be protected in order to successfully unprotect.
Note that protection is not a count it is a toggle. Two protects
followed by one unprotect leaves the page not protected..

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z/OS Core Technology Design

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The need is based on stuff that can be put into key-0 CSA -or- into dynamic
LPA during install time, and is briefly updated after it has been put into
CSA or dynamic LPA.  Since the dynamic LPA is protected, it needs to be
unprotected and then reprotected, but the CSA needs neither.  Hence the
'need to determine'.

Thank you.

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Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:08:42 -0500 Paul Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:27:15 -0400, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
:OK, I'll bite. Why do you need to determine?
:
:If you have any reason to think that the page is protected (presumably
:because you did it or might have done it), then you can just unprotect it.
:A page does not need to be protected in order to successfully unprotect.
:Note that protection is not a count it is a toggle. Two protects
:followed by one unprotect leaves the page not protected..

:The need is based on stuff that can be put into key-0 CSA -or- into dynamic
:LPA during install time, and is briefly updated after it has been put into
:CSA or dynamic LPA.  Since the dynamic LPA is protected, it needs to be
:unprotected and then reprotected, but the CSA needs neither.  Hence the
:'need to determine'.

I wonder if ASM/VSM checks for modified page-protected LPA.

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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Frank Yaeger
Binyamin Dissen wrote on 07/25/2007 08:41:30 AM:
 DFSORT can do a line compare, detecting inserts, reformats and deletes?

You can use the SPLICE function of DFSORT's ICETOOL to do various types
of matching.  For some examples, see the Create files with matching
and non-matching records Smart DFSORT Trick at:

http://www.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/

For complete details on SPLICE, see:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA20/6.13?DT=20060615185603


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PDS to SEQ and back to PDS.... Check the CBT Tape for LISTPDS

2007-07-25 Thread William Smith
A real oldie but goodie is the famous LISTPDS assembler program written
by Gene Czarcinski of NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in the early 70s for
the 360/95 when he was its system programmer.  Bill Godfrey, my former
office mate at PRC at Goddard back in the 70s, added some nice
enhancements.  It was on the famous NASA Goddard Goodies tape for years.
You can now pull it from the CBT TAPE.  Like StarTool below, Bill Godfrey
added support to preserve the ISPF statistics; it works just fine with a
PDSE.

If you use PARM=UPDTE and add a SYSPUNCH DD statement, it will punch the
entire PDS or selected members with ./ ADD IEBUPDTE control statements.

Also, and I'm not sure if it's in the free version of PDSTOOLS - but I know
it's in StarTool from Serena, there is a subcommand SEPARATE that will
(and quoting the manual) . . . splits a member or data set containing
members with ./ separators into their component members.  Note that ISPF
statistics are maintained.

Bill Smith
DFSMS Device Support, San Jose

LPDS TITLE 'LIST  PARTITIONED  DATA  SET  UTILITY  PROGRAM'
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**  **
** TITLE - LIST PARTITIONED DATA SET UTILITY PROGRAM**
**  **
** NAME - LISTPDS,  ENTRY POINT - LISTPDS   **
**  **
** STATUS - VERSION 6.2,  UPDATED 10JUL73   **
**  UPDATED 03DEC80 AT AFDSC/PENTAGON, BILL GODFREY **
**.  MOVE SSI= KEYWORD AFTER MEMBER NAME ON ./ ADD  **
**.  FORMAT SPF STATISTICS ON SYSPRINT AND ON ./ ADD**
**.  ADD NEW PARM OPTIONS 'SPF' AND 'NOSPF',**
**   DEFAULT IS 'SPF'.  IF 'NOSPF' IS SPECIFIED, OR **
**   IF NO MEMBERS IN A PDS CONTAIN SPF STATISTICS, **
**   THEN THE OLD HEX FORMAT WILL BE USED ON SYSPRINT.  **
**.  ADD NEW PARM OPTION 'NOSEL' TO IGNORE SYSIN.   **
**   SIMPLIFIES USE OF LISTPDS FROM TSO.**
**.  GET TIOT ADDRESS FROM TCB INSTEAD OF EXTRACT SVC.  **
**  UPDATED 23FEB81 AT AFDSC/PENTAGON, BILL GODFREY **
**.  UPDTE(XX) IN PARM SPECIFIES XX AS REPLACEMENT  **
**   STRING FOR './' IF FOUND WITHIN A MEMBER.  **
**  UPDATED 06JUL94 D.H.CARTWRIGHT.DHC
**.  'TRUNC' WITH CARD IMAGES DELETES SEQ. NOS. 73-80 .DHC
**  UPDATED 08FEB95 D.H.CARTWRIGHT.DHC
**.  IN THE ABOVE CASE SPECIAL PROCESS FOR 'PDSDOC'   .DHC
**  **
** DEVELOPED BY . . .   **
**   GENE CZARCINSKI**
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Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine

2007-07-25 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen
 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:28 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine
 
 
 On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:08:42 -0500 Paul Schuster 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 :On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:27:15 -0400, Peter Relson 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 :
 :OK, I'll bite. Why do you need to determine?
 :
 :If you have any reason to think that the page is protected 
 (presumably
 :because you did it or might have done it), then you can 
 just unprotect it.
 :A page does not need to be protected in order to 
 successfully unprotect.
 :Note that protection is not a count it is a toggle. 
 Two protects
 :followed by one unprotect leaves the page not protected..
 
 :The need is based on stuff that can be put into key-0 CSA 
 -or- into dynamic
 :LPA during install time, and is briefly updated after it 
 has been put into
 :CSA or dynamic LPA.  Since the dynamic LPA is protected, it 
 needs to be
 :unprotected and then reprotected, but the CSA needs 
 neither.  Hence the
 :'need to determine'.
 
 I wonder if ASM/VSM checks for modified page-protected LPA.
 
 --
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From what I remember from the deep-dark-past, LPA is never paged-out. So
if something modifies an LPA page, then it must also do a PGFIX so that
the frame in which it resides is never used for anything else. I
remember a type 3 SVC which did an initialization of itself upon the
first execution. The updated data area within the SVC code had to be
page fixed and the comment was or else the data is lost if the frame is
ever reused due to low activity.

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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Kingston
Then should you not protect ICKDSF itself?

If your authorised to run it in batch, then why not through TSO.

Protect ICKDSF from unauthorised users rather than execs?
 
Phil.

z/OS Systems Programming Consultant
Website  www.zostek.com



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On Jul 25, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:

 But what was purpose of this?  Was there a security exposure  
 identified?
 If so, what was it?  Or was it a case of well, it's always been done
 this way.

 Wayne Driscoll
 Product Developer
 JME Software LLC
 NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.


No there had been issue of people running ICKDSF and other programs  
under TSO that caused issues.

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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
DASDVOL profiles can help here..


 

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On Jul 25, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:

 But what was purpose of this?  Was there a security exposure 
 identified?
 If so, what was it?  Or was it a case of well, it's always been done 
 this way.

 Wayne Driscoll
 Product Developer
 JME Software LLC
 NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.


No there had been issue of people running ICKDSF and other programs under
TSO that caused issues.

Ed

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Re: Unable to display Extended characters (aka Spanish) in SDSF

2007-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chauhan, Jasbir
 
 John, Are you suggesting there is a separate code page for 
 SDSF and ISPF. I'm using ISPF as an example here because the 
 raw data (pds)does show extended attributes when browsed.

Though I am by no measure an SDSF expert, it appears there is; see

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/isf4cs50/2.14
.3

Other pages in that vicinity contain further explanation, but I'd guess
you have the default CP00037 in use.  It appears you need CP00284 or
CP01145 for Spanish.

-jc-

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Re: PDS to SEQ and back to PDS.... Check the CBT Tape for LISTPDS

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:28:35 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:

The OFFLOAD subcommand offloads members of a PDS to a member of
a PDS or a sequential data set.  An IEBUPDTE ./ ADD NAME=
control statement is added before each output member and ISPF
statistics are included for use by the PDSLOAD program (CBT 093).

Note: ./ in the input members is translated to  in the output.

That's valuable.  How do they deal with  occurring in
the input?  Etc.

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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:27:27 +0100, Terry Sambrooks wrote:

Historically IEBCOMPR gave up if there were 10 consecutive errors, and I
believe it still does.

What's an error?  SYNAD entered?  I'd give up on one of those.

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Re: Secure clist

2007-07-25 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
ummm, so what if someone copies it into their own clist lib, modifies the id
check code, then runs it?

Been there..had to be there actually.  we had an oldie where the
original developer went off to other pursuits.  my id was not
authorized..45 seconds later it was.

locks are meant to keep honest people out.

 

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Is there any way to secure certain clist from unauthorized use?
For example if I don't want applications to get into the wlm, 
Application, how would I do it?  If it can be done.
Thanks In Advance.




Bill Carroll



I've been on vacation and then bringing up a new z/OS 1.7 in our sand box.
So I haven't been on IBM-MAIN ListServ this month.

Not sure if anyone suggested putting some code in your CLIST to check if the
user is authorized to execute it?  Like a TSO Userid validation check.
Don't need anything real sofisticated and no need for a RACF/ACF2/Top Secret
call.

Just a simple id compare check.  Either you ARE in the list and can use it,
or NOT, then BYE-BYE.

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Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Gary Green
Interview about why everyone should migrate away from the mainframe.

http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/qna/0,289202,sid80_gci1265623,00.html?track=NL-576ad=598271asrc=EM_NLT_1860635uid=1900046

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Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread McKown, John
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  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gary Green
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of 
   Gary Green
   Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:17 PM
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  What a pile of you-know-what. I may write an article for 
 the trucking
 
  industry extolling the virtues of why all shippers should 
 immediately
 
  stop sending cargo by train and only use step vans.
  
  While I appreciate everyone's appreciation, I like John's 
  analogy best.  :)
 
 Yeah  I'd like to see a step van carrying an Abrams tank.
 

It is simple. Disassemble it at the source, ship it quickly and
efficiently via step van, reassemble at the destination. If this is not
possible, it is a fault of the design of the tank, not the step van or
the process of transportation via the step van.

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Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Chase, John
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 What a pile of you-know-what. I may write an article for the trucking

 industry extolling the virtues of why all shippers should immediately

 stop sending cargo by train and only use step vans.
 
 While I appreciate everyone's appreciation, I like John's 
 analogy best.  :)

Yeah  I'd like to see a step van carrying an Abrams tank.

-jc-

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Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Gary Green
While I appreciate everyone's appreciation, I like John's analogy best.  :)

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What a pile of you-know-what. I may write an article for the trucking
industry extolling the virtues of why all shippers should immediately
stop sending cargo by train and only use step vans.

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Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
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  On 25 Jul 2007 13:27:47 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
  wrote:
 
While I appreciate everyone's appreciation, I like John's
analogy best.  :)
  
   Yeah  I'd like to see a step van carrying an Abrams tank.
  
  
  It is simple. Disassemble it at the source, ship it quickly and
  efficiently via step van, reassemble at the destination. If
  this is not
  possible, it is a fault of the design of the tank, not the
  step van or
  the process of transportation via the step van.
 
  And make sure you ship it from California to Hawaii.
 
 
 Ah, yes. But you can drive the step van onto a large power boat.
 
 --
 John McKown

Well, he did say ship it to Hawaii... doesn't that mean
putting it on a boat or vessel anymore? eek!


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Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Smith III
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/qna/0,289202,sid80_gci1265623,00.html?track=NL-576ad=598271asrc=EM_NLT_1860635uid=5437138

I'm just the messenger, put down the gun...

...phsiii

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Re: SYSVIEW 11.5

2007-07-25 Thread Scott Barry
Hello,

I am curious if you are using the SYSVIEW-generated SMF 110 (CMF-like subtype 
1, transaction and
dictionary information) records, or are you using the native SYSVIEW CICS data 
for reporting?  And
are you generating these transaction reports directly from SYSVIEW or from 
another reporting
software product like MXG or MICS?  

It would be interesting to also learn about your CICS version for comparison 
purposes.  I have
another client who is reporting a somewhat similar symptom condition with 
dropped transaction
statistics using the SYSVIEW-generated SMF 110 records with MICS, however I 
understand that there
may be a MICS software maintenance issue to consider.

Sincerely,

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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I know this is a long shot, but I need some help and not a lot of time.
We use SYSVIEW to cut CICS records. Sysview 11,5 was installed and we
noticed 3 month later that the reports that we generate to record
transaction count, response time, and number of transactions stopped
working. This is when I found out SYSVIEW went to using Easytrieve for
these reports. I having problems using this approach. I have an open
issue with CA for both product and they are not providing a quick
answer. 
 
Has anyone written anything to process these records from SYSVIEW 11.5
and produce these type of CICS reports.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thank You

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Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-07-25 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 16:39 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
  No, they're releasing a threading library (which I doubt will be of much
  value to us here).
 
 Why not?  GCC under z/Linux + TBB should work

I yield!  (I generally wear my z/OS hat when I'm perusing ibm-main and
my Linux hat when I'm over on linux-390.)

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Re: SYSVIEW 11.5

2007-07-25 Thread Gerhard Adam

Mark:

Contact me off-line for more specifics and I'll see what I can do to help.

Adam

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I know this is a long shot, but I need some help and not a lot of time.
We use SYSVIEW to cut CICS records. Sysview 11,5 was installed and we
noticed 3 month later that the reports that we generate to record
transaction count, response time, and number of transactions stopped
working. This is when I found out SYSVIEW went to using Easytrieve for
these reports. I having problems using this approach. I have an open
issue with CA for both product and they are not providing a quick
answer. 


Has anyone written anything to process these records from SYSVIEW 11.5
and produce these type of CICS reports.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank You 


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Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-07-25 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 16:15 -0400, Warner Mach wrote:
 Intel is going to open-source a C++ compiler for parallel Processing

No, they're releasing a threading library (which I doubt will be of much
value to us here).

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Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Campbell Jay
Cessna will be welding 26,000 Cessna 180's together in an effort to
compete
with the military's C-5 cargo jets...

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Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-25 Thread Stephen Mednick
I don't know where you are situated at the moment but there always seems to be a
demand in some of the Asia/Pacific areas, Singapore, Hong Kong etc. Maybe you
should learn Chinese. 

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

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 Is there a city/country in the world with a real shortage of 
 M/F sysprogs?  
 
 TIA,
 Rez

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