Re: Beta TEST announcement of ?????

2008-03-08 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 21:58 -0600, Brian Westerman wrote:

 I sent it because when we started the previous beta, I received more than 20
 emails from people on the list that complained that they didn't know about
 the beta in enough advance time and thus were not allowed to participate
 because of the 150 site limit.

I must admit I have (significantly) more empathy for Teds position than
Brians.
I'm not averse to the announcement of a (possibly upcoming) beta with a
link for those interested to go investigate.
Full-on marketing on the list I can do without.

Personal opinion only of course - maybe Big D could proffer a
definitive stance.

Shane ...

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Re: Any RMM Training available?

2008-03-08 Thread R.S.

Arturo A Arca wrote:

I did a search on Course ES210 and came up empty/not found. I too would be
very interested in attending and/or doing an online course.. 


OK, my fault.
The course was renamed to SS21. You can search for SS21, SS210, SS212 
(version 2 of SS21). The version of the course is described as ERC.
I did teach it as ES210 and later as SS210 - this is simply updated 
version.


For a few years IBM have been renaming storage-related courses to SSnnn. 
Previously they were named as other mainframe courses, for example:

VSAM  - BE08, now SS83
RMM   - ES21, now SS21
SMS   - BE84, now SS05 (afaik)


BTW: It is very unwise to have ambigous cousre *codes*. The same course, 
I mean *exactly same version*, can be named as ES72, BE71 or ES712 
(version 2). It provides big mess, and I don't see any reason for such 
approach.



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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Zahir Hemini
Ted, this is basically what Brian uses this discussion group for, to
advertise his products and services.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  apologize if you have already received the email on this, but Syzygy is
 announcing our BETA testing of the next version of SyzAUTO.

 You should appologise for sending this e-mail at all!
 IBM-Main is a user discussion forum.
 Not a place to receive e-mail advertisements from software vendors.

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Re: Peformance question

2008-03-08 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

gsg wrote:
We have a job that has a posting step that runs 6-7 minutes last year.  We 
noticed that the job more than doubled starting with the first processing day 
of 2008.  The application owners swear that no changes were made on there 
side and the systems guys swear that no changes were made on their side 
neither.  The only think that I noticed by looking at the jobs sysout is that the 
SERVice Units went from 5335K to 13549K.  Any ideas.




Run time is NOT a good indicator of performance issue, unless absolutely 
NOTHING in the WHOLE environment has changed.  By nothing I mean NOTHING.


The same exact jobs are running at the same exact time this job is 
running.  This job is processing the same exact data.  You have the same 
number of online users doing the same exact work.


Say this job was taking 6-7 minutes last year.  Now on Jan. 1 of this 
year a new application was put into production and is consuming more 
resources (CPU, MEMORY, I/O) so that your whole system is busier than 
last year.  This job could be running longer (walk clock time) because 
the system is busier and this job has to wait more often and longer to 
get the resources it needs.


IIRC service units can and do change from run to run.  The biggest 
reason is the number of records processed by the job.


I agree with Arhtur, look at the link edit dates.  The hard part about 
this, if your shop is like ours, we have a few common modules that are 
dynamically linked so the main program may not have changed, but one 
of the common modules did and so you have to check all of the modules 
that are dynamically linked also.


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Re: Secure FTP

2008-03-08 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:21:25 -0600, Miller, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I need to exchange files with an agency that uses sftp and SSH-2.  From
looking at the archives and the TCP/IP Implementation red book (vol 2, std
apps), I am unclear whether I can use ftps and AT-TLS or am stuck with sftp.

sftp is not at all related to ftp.  It is an entirely different protocol,
part of SSH or OpenSSH processing.

Their agency might also support ftps, but you'd have to ask them. 
Alternatively you can install the IBM Ported Tools for z/OS as Richard
mentioned, which will give you an OpenSSH implementation on z/OS, and that
will give you the ability to use sftp.

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/port_tools.html

For discussion of OpenSSH on z/OS I suggest using the MVS-OE mailing list
rather than IBM-MAIN.

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Thomas Kern
I took the original posting as a call for help. He needs assistance with
beta testing. I think that is an excellent use of this group and an
excellent attitude from a vendor.

/Tom Kern

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RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Excel Error

2008-03-08 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Has anyone run into this Excel error when trying to use IBM's RMF
Spreadsheet Reporter?

I get a popup that reads:

| Error Message
| -
| File access error occurred.
| Additional information: You are attempting to open a file type that is

| blocked by your registry policy setting.

I've googled quit a bit on it and did some changes to my registry, but
it didn't fix it.  I was wondering if anyone else came upon this and
figured out what to do about it.

Kind regards,
Lindy

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Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Excel Error

2008-03-08 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
I didn't save the email, but the fine folks who support and maintain the
RMF Spreadsheet Reporter pointed me to the Microsoft document on how to
fix it.   

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:25 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Excel Error

Has anyone run into this Excel error when trying to use IBM's RMF
Spreadsheet Reporter?

I get a popup that reads:

| Error Message
| -
| File access error occurred.
| Additional information: You are attempting to open a file type that is

| blocked by your registry policy setting.

I've googled quit a bit on it and did some changes to my registry, but
it didn't fix it.  I was wondering if anyone else came upon this and
figured out what to do about it.

Kind regards,
Lindy

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Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY

2008-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip---


An application group is doing a stress test against a CICS region,
using batched instream commands via an IEFBR14 job to invoke a user
transaction.  Some of the MODIFY commands are being rejected with
message IEE342I MODIFY   REJECTED-TASK BUSY.  The part of the
explanation in MC that appears applicable is:

The task associated with the command had not finished processing a
previous command.

Question:  Which is the task associated with the command in this
context:  The user transaction invoked via the command?  The CICS
command processor?  Some other (MVS) task?
 


--unsnip-
John, on the CBT site there's a program named COMMAND that will issue 
commands from the SYSIN file, or replies to WTOR's. It allows for a 
special command called DELAY, so you can space out the timing of the 
commands to be issued. Pull it down, look it over and assemble it.


(I wish it had the capability to issue a command after the appearance of 
a specific message.)


Between COMMAND and the NETINIT program, we almost completely automated 
our start-up and shutdown processes at Clearing; all the operator had to 
do was start the LOAD process and supply the $s command for JES2. 
Shutdown was done by starting a SHUTDOWN proc that did everything but 
close down JES2.


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Re: SPAM: Re: Tapeless backup

2008-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip---


We have a similar issue in our shop.  The midrange area wants tapeless.  the 
Mainframe side TAPE.

We have a VTS and ATL.  We use the product DRVI to stack the VTS Tape backups 
to an real tape and ship it offsite for DR purposes.  Tape is cheap.  tape can 
survive years in a dusty hole and still be usable.  You can encrypt it.  You 
can send it where it needs to go when it is needed.

Or you can pay a DR site to have a tapeless solution there in case you need it. 
 You just have to figure out how much you want to pay for a disaster.

The only thought I have is:  If you have a tapeless solution how do you get 
your data to DR site should your primary site fail?
 


---unsnip---
Consider also this: depending on what industry you're in, there may 
exist legal requirements for data archiving and retrieval. I spent my 
last 23 years in an industry where we had a ten-year retrieval 
requirement, imposed by Department of Commerce rules.


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Re: SPAM: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip

I haven't been following this but has anyone suggested setting up a CTC 
between the LPAR's. The connection is setup over Escon channels.
 


---unsnip
That will make a very reasonable physical connection; the next step is 
to configure software to actually use it. :-)


I vote for a NJE connection, with routing JECL where appropriate. It's a 
LOT less prone to error than trying to do spool OFFLOAD and LOAD.


Shared spool may be out for valid reasons.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread Edward Jaffe

Rick Fochtman wrote:
That will make a very reasonable physical connection; the next step is 
to configure software to actually use it. :-)


I vote for a NJE connection, with routing JECL where appropriate. It's 
a LOT less prone to error than trying to do spool OFFLOAD and LOAD.


The OP indicates that he already has TCP/IP connectivity between all 
LPARs and FTP servers running on each. Therefore, the JES FTP interface 
should be available without any additional configuration. (Though I 
would highly recommend specifying JESINTERFACELEVEL 2 for the FTP 
server configurations.)


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Re: SPAM: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 3/8/2008 11:03:41 A.M. Central Standard Time,  r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

vote for a NJE connection, with routing JECL where appropriate. It's a  
LOT less prone to error than trying to do spool OFFLOAD and  LOAD.

Shared spool may be out for valid reasons.



Guess if all you got is PFCSKs  DEST='IP:ipaddr' might suffice w/o NJE
 
quote JCL  Reference
   DEST=destination
The destination subparameter for JES2 is one of the following:  
LOCAL|ANYLOCAL 
'IP:ipaddr'
name   
|  Nn 
|  NnRm   
NnnR   
NnnnRmmm   
NRmm   
|  NnRm   
|  (node,remote)  
nodename.userid
'nodename.IP:ipaddr'
 
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Re: Tapeless backup

2008-03-08 Thread R.S.

Leitner, Timothy wrote:
All, 
	How many places have implemented tapeless backup environments? I

don't mean virtual tape that has tape on the back-end but no tape at
all. We are exploring different options and the wintel side of the house
is heading down the totally tapeless path. That makes me nervous but I'm
getting old.


Well, BTDT (Been There, Done That).
Some time ago I decide to use DASD instead of tape for backups. The 
reason was ...budget constraint. Yes, disk backup was cheaper.

I repeated it for open systems as well.
However YMMV, Strongly. The major factor is amount of data. Another 
important factor is data retention requirements. How many copies, how 
long kept, etc. In fact we distinguish two things: backup, and archive.


Things to consider:
- Amount of data. The more data, the cheaper tape is.
- Activity. The more archival copies, the better for tape.
- SOFTWARE! Your backup software may or may not support DASD in every 
operation. AFAIK DFSMShsm does not support DASD for volume dumps.
- DASD boxes. If you decide to use second hand equipment (IMHO it's ok 
for backup), then the price analyzis changes significantly. From the 
other hand I don't like second hand tape drives (BTDT) because of wear, 
MTBF, etc.
- DR scenarios. Some datacenters still use PTAM method. Tapes offsite. 
Well - in this case you have to have tapes. For remote copy solutions 
(PPRC, H(A)RC, SRDF) it's easier to replicate backups and migrated data. 
In tape world you can buy remote copy solution for virtual tapes (both 
STK/Sun and IBM do offer such solutions). You can also have two ATLs 
without virtual tapes (much cheaper) and use software for data replication.
- Offline media. DASD backups could be erased by accident (human error). 
It is oftenly mentioned. Of course tapes can be overwritten as well, but 
the tapes can be locked up (physically) - disks cannot. However in ATL 
there is no manual control what tapes is being mounted, so human error 
is as possible as in DASD.


BTW: several years ago it was discussed whether to use MO 
(Magneto-Optical) media for backups. Although this is the most reliable 
media ever known, the technology is rather fading due to capacity, 
price, performance reasons. MO are small, slow and expensive.

So, nowadays we discuss tape or disk. No other option apply.

My $0.02
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Beta Test Announcement

2008-03-08 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Brian and Shane,

I guess it doesn't bother me a whole lot about Brian's posting.  I know 
opinions vary from don't care at all to foaming at the mouth for the audacity 
to do such a horrible thing.  But Shane, you're right - the list owner Darren 
should get involved.  All such postings should probably be sent to Darren, and 
he will either post them or send them back and tell whoever what is acceptable. 
 

Darren - maybe you can post something giving guidelines.  

Eric

On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 21:58 -0600, Brian Westerman wrote:

 I sent it because when we started the previous beta, I received more than 20
 emails from people on the list that complained that they didn't know about
 the beta in enough advance time and thus were not allowed to participate
 because of the 150 site limit.

I must admit I have (significantly) more empathy for Teds position than
Brians.
I'm not averse to the announcement of a (possibly upcoming) beta with a
link for those interested to go investigate.
Full-on marketing on the list I can do without.

Personal opinion only of course - maybe Big D could proffer a
definitive stance.

Shane ...

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Re: SPAM: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:21:53 -0800, Edward Jaffe 
The OP indicates that he already has TCP/IP connectivity between all
LPARs and FTP servers running on each. Therefore, the JES FTP interface
should be available without any additional configuration. (Though I
would highly recommend specifying JESINTERFACELEVEL 2 for the FTP
server configurations.)

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Thank you all for all the great ideas.  Sounds like I am restricted to using 
FTP 
to transfer the report files.

I looked up info on the JESINTERFACELEVEL 2 option and it appears this will 
allow me to pull reports/sysouts that do not match my userid or owner among 
other things.  Does this parameter have to be coded in the TCPIP parameter 
library or can it be specified as a parameter in a batch jcl?

Also can you ftp a report directly from one jes spool to another jes spool or 
do 
I have to put the report in an intermediary dataset and then ftp that file to 
the desired jes spool output?

Regards,
Gil.

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Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Gilbert Cardenas wrote:
Hello all, I am looking for ideas on ways to transfer reports/sysouts from one 
JES2 spool on one lpar to another lpar.


The current method I am using is to use a JES offload dataset to offload the 
report(s) and then reload them on the other lpar.  This works okay but I'm 
looking for an automated way to do this so I don't have to get involved in the 
process.


We also have a VPS printer defined that takes any report in a certain dest and 
then LPRs them to another lpar but this doesn't work very well because 
oftentimes the format of the original report is not correct and this method also 
breaks up the print files into separate print streams so DJDE print records get 
separated from the original report and printing is incorrect.


I don't know much about external writers or even sapi but as long as it is not 
too complicated and freeware, I'm willing to look into something like that or 
other methods???


Any feedback appreciated,
Gil.

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O.K. There has been a lot of talk about using ftp for this and 
filetype=jes.   I know how you can use ftp to GET a report from JES 
using this, but just how do you send it?


When you use put and filetype=jes I though that it would try and submit 
the input stream as a JOB.


I like Krik's way of doing it, assuming you can't get NJE and you have 
shared DASD.


I am trying to think if there is a way to use the NJE aware SMTP server 
here.  I use it to send e-mail all of the time, but I have never used it 
to receive e-mail.  You would need a new IP domain name and a MX record 
setup for the receiving side.


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Re: Tapeless backup

2008-03-08 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Leitner, Timothy wrote:
All, 
	How many places have implemented tapeless backup environments? I

don't mean virtual tape that has tape on the back-end but no tape at
all. We are exploring different options and the wintel side of the house
is heading down the totally tapeless path. That makes me nervous but I'm
getting old.

Thanks for any and all input.

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OSF Healthcare System 
Manager, Technical Services 
 



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You seem to be in the Healthcare industry.  I agree with Rick F.  What 
are your legal obligations for keeping backups and what are you auditing 
requirements.


What are your DR requirements?

It may be a bit expensive to put 5, 7, 10 years worth of backups on 
DASD. Depending on what you do on the Wintel platforms, they may not 
have any legal requirements to keep things longer than a few weeks or 
months.


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Bob Richards

2008-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
For those of you that are friends, you should know that Bob Richards had 
a MAJOR heart attack on Mondy. Yesterday, he underwent quadruple bypass 
surgery. The prognosis, as of this afternoon, is very good. Things are a 
little bit slower in recovery, due to the fact that Bob was a heavy 
smoker, but, as I said, the prognosis is very good.


For those of you that wish to be kept up-to-date, please respond 
privately with Bob Richards as the subject and I'll provide updates as 
his wife, Rebecca, provides them to me.


I have already extended best wishes for a speedy recovery on behalf of 
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ePSP Bucket for z/OS 1.9 missing?

2008-03-08 Thread Roger Lowe
Hi Listers,
   Does anyone know if there is supposed to be a bucket 
available for z/OS 1.9 that is used by the ePSP Tool?  Have been to the 
url (http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/psp/srchBroker) 
and then as part of the pull-down list for the z/OS operating system 
buckets it shows OS/390 2.10 through to z/OS 1.8. 

What has happened top the z/OS 1.9 bucket?

Roger

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clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-08 Thread Gregory Pinkowski
I'm new...to this list and at my new job...
Question about setting the clock:

Haven't IPL'd in 4 months, so tonight I'm going to IPL the production z/OS 1.7 
LPAR and similar test LPAR (each a monoplex) to pick up a new 
SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCK00) with a different offset to Greenwich Mean Time (7 instead 
of 8 for Pacific).  Shutdown will quiesce everything nicely.  Systems are 
simple, mostly CICS and MQ.  And I come from more of an internals/development 
background, and haven't been around operations nor hardware lately.  Question 
is: do I have to reset any secondary time of day clock that the HDC (this is 
some kind of Z9 with a HDC that I think runs some kind of UNIX as its embedded 
system??) uses for things like hardware time stamps or knowing when to call 
home or something?  My point is, GMT did not change, so I don't need to change 
any hardware CPU TOD clock for z/OS (not like the old days when we'd set to 
local).  But do I need to make other clock changes for the HCD part of the 
hardware itself or does it operate on GMT or something?  If I need to do 
more, what's involved?  Do I need to do some kind of power-on reset?  For the 
LPAR or for the whole box or whole HCD?  Or does IBM take care of that?

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Re: ePSP Bucket for z/OS 1.9 missing?

2008-03-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 17:37:58 -0600, Roger Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Listers,
   Does anyone know if there is supposed to be a bucket
available for z/OS 1.9 that is used by the ePSP Tool?  Have been to the
url (http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/psp/srchBroker)
and then as part of the pull-down list for the z/OS operating system
buckets it shows OS/390 2.10 through to z/OS 1.8.

What has happened top the z/OS 1.9 bucket?

Roger

Think it depends on how you search.  Try this:

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0dc=DB540q1=isg1*uid=isg1_ZOSV1R9aid=1loc=en_UScs=utf-8amp;lang=

Sometimes the easiest thing is to just FTP into the server and find it:

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/pspapartool/

Mark
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Re: SPAM: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:45:28 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Guess if all you got is PFCSKs  DEST='IP:ipaddr' might suffice w/o NJE

quote JCL  Reference
   DEST=destination
The destination subparameter for JES2 is one of the following:
LOCAL|ANYLOCAL
'IP:ipaddr'
name
|  Nn
|  NnRm
NnnR
NnnnRmmm
NRmm
|  NnRm
|  (node,remote)
nodename.userid
'nodename.IP:ipaddr'

end quote


I would like to use this option however, if I use the 'IP:ipaddr' the jcl 
reference 
states that a functional subsystem that can process IP-distributed data sets 
sends the data to the specified host system.
Could you please translate what that means.
I see the report in the output queue sitting with a dest of IP but how does 
the report get transmitted across?

Regards,
Gil. 

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Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 14:31:26 -0800, Gregory Pinkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm new...to this list and at my new job...
Question about setting the clock:

Haven't IPL'd in 4 months, so tonight I'm going to IPL the production
z/OS 1.7 LPAR and similar test LPAR (each a monoplex) to pick up a
new SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCK00) with a different offset to Greenwich Mean
Time (7 instead of 8 for Pacific).  Shutdown will quiesce everything
nicely.

This is out of my area of expertise.  But from what I recall from
previous semiannual postings to this list:

o IPL shouldn't be necessary.

o Change the local time offset with an operator command.

o The updated PARMLIB member will cover the next IPL.

o If you have a Sysplex Timer, you can schedule the change in
  the Sysplex Timer.

o Your Unix System Services TZ variables should be set to PST8PDT.
  There is no time change for UNIX.

o Going forward is very safe.  Going back is only a problem if you
  have applications so benighted as to keep critical timestamps in
  local time, and then to be upset when it regresses.

-- gil

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Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-08 Thread Gregory Pinkowski
Gil,
- Thanks a ton.  No coupling facility from what I'm told, GRS via couple 
dataset (I'm used to MIM via CTC, so this is new to me too).  I just want to 
prove periodically an IPL works, I know it's not necessary.  I just haven't 
seen one at this site since I started here, and I want to compare the start-up 
to some timing issues I've see starting the disaster recovery machine.  USS 
exists only to support TCPIP, NPF and MQ as necessary.
- Greg

BTW when I shut down the test LPAR yesterday, z/OS didn't seem to recognize the 
hardware console as a z/OS console until I cause an interrupt after it's lost 
the other consoles.  Is this normal?

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Re: SPAM: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Gilbert Cardenas wrote:

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:45:28 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Guess if all you got is PFCSKs  DEST='IP:ipaddr' might suffice w/o NJE

quote JCL  Reference
  DEST=destination
The destination subparameter for JES2 is one of the following:
LOCAL|ANYLOCAL
'IP:ipaddr'
name
|  Nn
|  NnRm
NnnR
NnnnRmmm
NRmm
|  NnRm
|  (node,remote)
nodename.userid
'nodename.IP:ipaddr'

end quote



I would like to use this option however, if I use the 'IP:ipaddr' the jcl reference 
states that a functional subsystem that can process IP-distributed data sets 
sends the data to the specified host system.

Could you please translate what that means.
I see the report in the output queue sitting with a dest of IP but how does 
the report get transmitted across?


Regards,
Gil. 



The remote still must be either a NJE node or a RJE node/workstation.

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RMF Monitor III - job UNKNOWN delay.

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hi folks,

Want to confirm that, at z/OS 1.7, RMF Monitor III is not able to identify 
delays due to PDSE latch contention.

We had a lot of batch jobs, all hung, with RMF showing them all 100% 
Unknown delay.

Before I go chasing IBM I just wanted to check that this is still the same at 
later levels of RMF.

I am sure that RMF should be able to detect job delay due to:

1. PDSE latch contention.
2. OMVS delays
3. maybe even TCPIP delays.

and it would be real nice if it could make a guess at delays due to 3rd party 
software ( wishful thinking?? )

Regards
Bruce Hewson

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Brian Westerman
Zahir,

Maybe you should go back and look at the problems that I have helped people
with, or maybe look at the programs that I have on the CBT Tape, or talk to
one of the people at one of the sites that I have performed contracts at
before you decide that I am only using the site for marketing.

I spend on average of 2 hours per week (unpaid) on the phone with systems
programmers from many sites all over the world (calling on my company's toll
free number) helping them with problems that have nothing to do with any
contracts or products that Syzygy maintains, it's all for free and I'm happy
to do it.

Obviously, if someone is looking for a solution that we have developed, I'm
not going to disqualify that solution just because I work for the company. 
There are several hundred users of our products, and I don't need to do
marketing, it's not my job, but if there is a solution that we make that
will help someone, I'm sure going to bring it up.  It would be the same if
the solution were an IBM or a CA product, just because I work for a vendor
doesn't mean that I should keep it a secret.  

I'm proud of what I do and who I work for, unlike the people who don't sign
their email or use a non-company address to post to the list.

Brian

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Re: SPAM: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-08 Thread Brian Westerman
Setting up NJE really isn't that difficult.  I can send you a short set of
directions for how to set it up if you want.  If your systems are both on
the same physical processor (2 LPARs), and if it's a z-series box with an
OSA/e or similar, it's even easier.  

I would bet that your systems people probably already have all of the pieces
there, they just need to put them in place.

Let me know.

Brian

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Stephen Mednick
Brian,

you've got my vote, keep up the good work and just ignore these morons who are
fortunately in the minority.

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia 

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Westerman
 Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2008 5:22 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO
 
 Zahir,
 
 Maybe you should go back and look at the problems that I have 
 helped people with, or maybe look at the programs that I have 
 on the CBT Tape, or talk to one of the people at one of the 
 sites that I have performed contracts at before you decide 
 that I am only using the site for marketing.
 
 I spend on average of 2 hours per week (unpaid) on the phone 
 with systems programmers from many sites all over the world 
 (calling on my company's toll free number) helping them with 
 problems that have nothing to do with any contracts or 
 products that Syzygy maintains, it's all for free and I'm 
 happy to do it.
 
 Obviously, if someone is looking for a solution that we have 
 developed, I'm not going to disqualify that solution just 
 because I work for the company. 
 There are several hundred users of our products, and I don't 
 need to do marketing, it's not my job, but if there is a 
 solution that we make that will help someone, I'm sure going 
 to bring it up.  It would be the same if the solution were an 
 IBM or a CA product, just because I work for a vendor doesn't 
 mean that I should keep it a secret.  
 
 I'm proud of what I do and who I work for, unlike the people 
 who don't sign their email or use a non-company address to 
 post to the list.
 
 Brian
 

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/06/2008
   at 10:27 PM, Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I'll past the email below

It would be better to make a tombstone announcement with *NO* promotional
material and a link to your web site for details.
 
-- 
 Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
 ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html 
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)

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Re: Bob Richards

2008-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/08/2008
   at 04:23 PM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

For those of you that are friends, you should know that Bob Richards had 
a MAJOR heart attack on Mondy.

I'm sure that there are many like me who know him only from the list but
would still like to know the progress of his recovery. IMHO it would not
be a misuse of the list to post his status here. 
 
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 ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html 
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
unlike the people who don't sign their email or use a non-company address to 
post to the list.

Some companies have a policy against making public statements using corporate 
e-mail accounts.
Some people are also unemployed, so how can they use a corporate account?

-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
you've got my vote, keep up the good work and just ignore these morons who are 
fortunately in the minority.

Because people have a different opinion than you does not make them morons.
Also, calling somebody a moron does not invalidate their opinion.

-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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