date:20080617

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:38:30 +0100, Bri P wrote:

It shouldn't matter too much for your PCI audit. The requirement is not really 
that each server has exactly the same time, as long as any time difference is 
fairly constant and is quantifiable. It's there really so that different 
server's system logs can be used collectively or in concert should some later 
investigation into something become necessary.

If you can demonstrate to your auditor that you take steps to ensure that the 
mainframe clock does not drift too much and that you know what any time 
difference is, he should accept that, or at least note that a compensating 
control is in place. For example, twice a year setting the HMC system clock 
with some external time reference (even the Speaking Clock) and ensuring that 
your IPL'd systems pick up that changed time. You don't need to be 
second-accurate, as long as the difference is known.

What are the guaranteed maximum drift rates of:

o The HMC clock between settings with an external reference

o The [E]TOD clock between IPLS in the absence of STP or ETR?

(I suspect the vendor won't specify the latter, but will recommend STP.)

Will this be acceptable to the auditor?

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DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

2008-06-17 Thread John Dawes

Hallo To All,
nbsp;
I am trying to track down the reason why an ABARS dsn was expired.nbsp; I 
checked in the log and it shows the following : 
KEY DVTAU.2008164000101 WAS DELETED BY EXPIREBV ABARVSVERSION COMMAND, RC=0
ARC0681I EXPIRE ABARS VERSIONS ENDING AT 17;10:05 ON 2008/06/12.
nbsp;
The dsn was created at 07:10:52 Date 08/06/12
nbsp;
My question is was this a manual command entered?nbsp; I checked the HSM 
startup but I didn't find any SETSYS commands which would issue the EXPIREBV.
nbsp;
If this command was entered by someone is there someplace I can look for the 
USERID?
nbsp;
Thanks


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Re: Cloning USS files

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 All:

 How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across 
 LPARs? What I am trying to do is to copy part (one directory 
 and all sub-directories) from one HFS file on one LPAR into 
 an HFS file on another LPAR. 

 The HFS file containing the desired directories is mounted as 
 root on one file system, which is the downlevel system from 
 which I am migrating. I want to carve out a copy of selected 
 directories and files from it and put them into an HFS file 
 that will be mounted and used on the uplevel system.

 What are the steps I need to do to accomplish this?

 Mike Myers

When I had to do this, I used pax to create an archive of the files that
I needed. I then ftp'ed the archive file to the new system and used pax
to unwind the archive.

1) create a sequential file that is big enough to contain the archive

2) cd to the starting subdirectory

3) pax -osaveext -wvf //'sequential.dataset' .

4) ftp 'sequential.dataset' to the new system (if not on shared DASD)

5) logon to the new system to a UNIX shell (TSO OMVS will work)

6) cd to the receiving subdirectory

7) pax -pex -rvf //'sequential.dataset'

There are other ways to do this, but the above is the simpliest
conceptually. It is the UNIX equivalent of doing a DFDSS or FDR dump of
the files and then restoring the dump on the new system.

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Myers

John:
 
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
 
Mike


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 All:
  
 How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across 
 LPARs? What I am trying to do is to copy part (one directory 
 and all sub-directories) from one HFS file on one LPAR into 
 an HFS file on another LPAR. 
  
 The HFS file containing the desired directories is mounted as 
 root on one file system, which is the downlevel system from 
 which I am migrating. I want to carve out a copy of selected 
 directories and files from it and put them into an HFS file 
 that will be mounted and used on the uplevel system.
  
 What are the steps I need to do to accomplish this?
  
 Mike Myers

When I had to do this, I used pax to create an archive of the files that
I needed. I then ftp'ed the archive file to the new system and used pax
to unwind the archive.

1) create a sequential file that is big enough to contain the archive

2) cd to the starting subdirectory

3) pax -osaveext -wvf //'sequential.dataset' .

4) ftp 'sequential.dataset' to the new system (if not on shared DASD)

5) logon to the new system to a UNIX shell (TSO OMVS will work)

6) cd to the receiving subdirectory

7) pax -pex -rvf //'sequential.dataset'

There are other ways to do this, but the above is the simpliest
conceptually. It is the UNIX equivalent of doing a DFDSS or FDR dump of
the files and then restoring the dump on the new system.

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Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

2008-06-17 Thread Bill Godfrey

Do your transfer rate measurements include login time? If so, have you tried 
an interactive ftp to see how long the login is taking? If it is taking a long 
time, the login time by itself may explain your slow transfer rate, while the 
transfer itself may be working just as fast as a transfer to Windows. We had 
slow Linux ftp logins (30 seconds before we even got a prompt for the userid) 
which turned out to be due to three reasons: the ftp server on Linux was 
running under xinetd, not as a daemon; xinetd was issuing ident requests (port 
113) back to the client machine, due to USERID being specified 
in /etc/xinetd.conf or the /etc/xinetd.d file for the ftp server; and port 113 
traffic was blocked. I won't go into more detail, since I don't know if any of 
this applies to your situation.

Bill

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:14:52 -0400, François Paré wrote:

Hello,

 

I'm running a batch job that does a FTP transfer from a z/OS mainframe to a 
LINUX server and the transfer rate is about 20K/sec. If I do the same FTP 
transfer to a Windows server I got a transfer rate of about 900K/sec. The 
mainframe OSA card is running at 100 Mb/sec full. Since the Windows and the 
LINUX server are on the same switch and got the same throughput capability  
I suppose that there is an optimal setting that is done automatically when the 
transfer is done with a Windows server but this setting is not done 
automatically with a LINUX server. I tried PASV but it didn't change the bad 
transfer rate. Could you tell me what this setting could be? Thank you!

 

 

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insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written
in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise
COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge
about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we use CA-Endevor
for our program compiles and links. This means that we need a separate
Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm. Any
ideas about another way to do this which would not require a new Endevor
processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor, but I don't see a way to
use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't know if this would be easier
to implement in Endevor than the PARM.

P.S. I am not as convinced as the programmer that the problems he is
encountering are due to the AMODE. But he is insistant and has the
political backing to force the issue. The only way to prove otherwise to
allow him to do his work in AMODE(24) and see if he still has the same
problems. He has already done a lot of figure out this for me type
requests to Tech Services.

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-17 Thread Timothy Sipples

Ad hoc SMF reporting might be a good fit for Tivoli Decision Support for
z/OS, with or without its various options (such as Usage and Accounting
Manager) depending on your requirements.

I believe CA also has something in this category. My guess would be some
combination of CA SMF Director, CA JARS Resource Management, and/or CA MICS
Resource Management. Macro4's ExpeTune does at least some SMF reporting. I
suspect I'm forgetting other possibilities.,

SAS, of course, is quite powerful and offers a lot of general purpose
flexibility. I'm quite fond of SAS having done some substantial econometric
analysis with it. Arguably I received a better diploma thanks to SAS, so I
guess I'm biased.

I should ask if you've investigated a penalty box solution. A typical
penalty box pattern is to have a disaster recovery system such as a
2096-A01 (z9 BC) or 2086-110 (z890) with Capacity Backup (CBU) protecting a
larger (and often growing) primary system. You might have disk replication
between the two sites/systems so that it's easy to shuttle SMF (and other)
data over to the other site. (Bonus points for Parallel Sysplex or even
some form of GDPS.) Quite often you'd keep N level hardware for primary
production (e.g. z9 BC) and N-1 for disaster recovery/penalty box (e.g.
z890). There are other patterns, and I'm also assuming here that SMF report
processing is containable within a much smaller system capacity.

Also, do you think the value of the SMF reports SAS delivers matches up
with the cost? (How real is the problem, basically?)

- - - - -
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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:49 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

 Ad hoc SMF reporting might be a good fit for Tivoli 
 Decision Support for
 z/OS, with or without its various options (such as Usage and 
 Accounting
 Manager) depending on your requirements.

 I believe CA also has something in this category. My guess 
 would be some
 combination of CA SMF Director, CA JARS Resource Management, 
 and/or CA MICS
 Resource Management. Macro4's ExpeTune does at least some SMF 
 reporting. I
 suspect I'm forgetting other possibilities.,

 SAS, of course, is quite powerful and offers a lot of general purpose
 flexibility. I'm quite fond of SAS having done some 
 substantial econometric
 analysis with it. Arguably I received a better diploma thanks 
 to SAS, so I
 guess I'm biased.

 I should ask if you've investigated a penalty box solution. 
 A typical
 penalty box pattern is to have a disaster recovery system such as a
 2096-A01 (z9 BC) or 2086-110 (z890) with Capacity Backup 
 (CBU) protecting a
 larger (and often growing) primary system. You might have 
 disk replication
 between the two sites/systems so that it's easy to shuttle 
 SMF (and other)
 data over to the other site. (Bonus points for Parallel 
 Sysplex or even
 some form of GDPS.) Quite often you'd keep N level hardware 
 for primary
 production (e.g. z9 BC) and N-1 for disaster 
 recovery/penalty box (e.g.
 z890). There are other patterns, and I'm also assuming here 
 that SMF report
 processing is containable within a much smaller system capacity.

 Also, do you think the value of the SMF reports SAS delivers 
 matches up
 with the cost? (How real is the problem, basically?)

 - - - - -
 Timothy Sipples

Thanks for the thoughts. However what I (and my manager) think is
totally irrelevant. Upper managements wants to cut costs. They have
targetted SAS as something that is not mission critical (and I guess it
isn't) and so it can be eliminated. So let it be written! So let it be
done! (some movie that I cannot remember - what the king said when he
made a decree.)

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Tom Marchant

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:52:32 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

... The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we use CA-Endevor
for our program compiles and links. This means that we need a separate
Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm.

For testing purposes, I'd link edit the module outside of Endevor.  That might 
mean that you have to link it into a different load library, but it would 
provide 
a simple test.

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-17 Thread Crispin Hugo

So let it be written! So let it be done! 
It was Pharaoh in 'The Ten Commandments'

Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
Macro 4


 

Thanks for the thoughts. However what I (and my manager) think is
totally irrelevant. Upper managements wants to cut costs. They have
targetted SAS as something that is not mission critical (and I guess it
isn't) and so it can be eliminated. So let it be written! So let it be
done! (some movie that I cannot remember - what the king said when he
made a decree.)

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-17 Thread Timothy Sipples

Actually, as of October, 2007, System z's Server Time Protocol (STP) can
act as a Simple Network Time Protocol (SNTP)/NTP client in order to receive
its master time. Your System z9 (or z10) is capable of that function if you
get the STP option. You can visit here to start getting some more
information:

http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/pso/stp/ntp.html

Also, I agree that it is highly desirable to have your mainframe act as the
master (S)NTP server for your other servers and even PC/Mac clients. Let
the mainframe be the highly available time boss if at all possible. See
here for some setup information (for z/OS):

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.halu101/sntpdinfo.htm

So, in summary, you can use the STP feature to let the mainframe get a
master time for your organization (via SNTP/NTP client support, such as by
connecting to a dedicated GPS box that delivers its time signal via a
closed NTP link). Then use the mainframe's SNTPD -- included with z/OS --
to keep every other server and client in sync. That'd be the preferred
approach.

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-17 Thread Howard Brazee

On 16 Jun 2008 06:51:48 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:

I am somewhat confused by this as well. But I'll admit that I'm not an
economist. I'm a computer techie. But as more things are done far
away, that reduces the average and median income in the local economy.
Which reduces the ability to make money in that economy. Eventually, it
seems to me, the local economy will no longer be able to support itself
and will collapse. I what the big boys hope to do is syphon off money
in the interim and so don't care about the long term. That is one
problem with globalization, in my ignorant view. And, of course, long
term today implies beyond this fiscal cycle. Unlike the 3 year and
5 year plans of my misspent youth.

On the other hand, the economy of New England didn't collapse when the
textile industry moved to the South, and the economy of the South
didn't collapse when the textile industry moved overseas.

And if the poor countries remain poor, quite a few adverse
consequences are likely to happen, varying from cutting down the
rainforests, to over-fishing, to epidemics, to war.   (Leaving out any
ethical or moral parts of this analysis).

I do agree that one of the big problems with this generation is a
devaluation of the long term.Societies that believe in long term
investment grow wealthy, while societies that don't believe in long
term investment lag behind.

When IBM sells computers and software around the world, the world
demands to sell back.   They have to, as goods and services are how we
pay for goods and services - money is just a convenient way of
handling that.

We can't sell without buying.

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Martinez, Frank J

Could you/he contact the vendor and ask them the question?  It seems to me that 
CA should be able to either point him in the right direction (since he is the 
one using the product, not you) or tell him it can't be done.

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Subject: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written
in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise
COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge
about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we use CA-Endevor
for our program compiles and links. This means that we need a separate
Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm. Any
ideas about another way to do this which would not require a new Endevor
processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor, but I don't see a way to
use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't know if this would be easier
to implement in Endevor than the PARM.

P.S. I am not as convinced as the programmer that the problems he is
encountering are due to the AMODE. But he is insistant and has the
political backing to force the issue. The only way to prove otherwise to
allow him to do his work in AMODE(24) and see if he still has the same
problems. He has already done a lot of figure out this for me type
requests to Tech Services.

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Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

2008-06-17 Thread François Paré

No the transfer rate does not include the login time. The login time is very 
short. We tried it interactively from tso and the transfer rate is as slow as 
in batch.

Francois


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Objet : Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

Do your transfer rate measurements include login time? If so, have you tried 
an interactive ftp to see how long the login is taking? If it is taking a long 
time, the login time by itself may explain your slow transfer rate, while the 
transfer itself may be working just as fast as a transfer to Windows. We had 
slow Linux ftp logins (30 seconds before we even got a prompt for the userid) 
which turned out to be due to three reasons: the ftp server on Linux was 
running under xinetd, not as a daemon; xinetd was issuing ident requests (port 
113) back to the client machine, due to USERID being specified 
in /etc/xinetd.conf or the /etc/xinetd.d file for the ftp server; and port 113 
traffic was blocked. I won't go into more detail, since I don't know if any of 
this applies to your situation.

Bill

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:14:52 -0400, François Paré wrote:

Hello,

 

I'm running a batch job that does a FTP transfer from a z/OS mainframe to a 
LINUX server and the transfer rate is about 20K/sec. If I do the same FTP 
transfer to a Windows server I got a transfer rate of about 900K/sec. The 
mainframe OSA card is running at 100 Mb/sec full. Since the Windows and the 
LINUX server are on the same switch and got the same throughput capability  
I suppose that there is an optimal setting that is done automatically when the 
transfer is done with a Windows server but this setting is not done 
automatically with a LINUX server. I tried PASV but it didn't change the bad 
transfer rate. Could you tell me what this setting could be? Thank you!


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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:02 AM
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 Subject: Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

 On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:52:32 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

 ... The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
 major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). 
 He wants to
 force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
 this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we 
 use CA-Endevor
 for our program compiles and links. This means that we need 
 a separate
 Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm.

 For testing purposes, I'd link edit the module outside of 
 Endevor.  That might 
 mean that you have to link it into a different load library, 
 but it would provide 
 a simple test.

 -- 
 Tom Marchant

I guess that we may need to do this. But it is going to be a nightmare!
All the source is in Endevor controlled libraries. The load library in
the DFHRPL is Endevor controlled. Linking into this environment outside
of Endevor is another political nightmare.

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Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

2008-06-17 Thread François Paré

The port 113 was closed on the LINUX server. We opened it and did the test 
again but the transfer rate is unchanged.


François Paré  tél.: 4013


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Objet : Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

We had a similar problem and found it was related to port 113 and firewalls.  
We had the ftp server on a Linux box and were using the client from z/OS.  We 
ended up creating a rule to keep the Linux ftp server from sending to port 113 
of the client.   Port 113 has something to do with identd.  


Brad Wissink
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
515-294-3088

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Hello,

 

I'm running a batch job that does a FTP transfer from a z/OS mainframe to a 
LINUX server and the transfer rate is about 20K/sec. If I do the same FTP 
transfer to a Windows server I got a transfer rate of about 900K/sec. The 
mainframe OSA card is running at 100 Mb/sec full. Since the Windows and the 
LINUX server are on the same switch and got the same throughput capability  I 
suppose that there is an optimal setting that is done automatically when the 
transfer is done with a Windows server but this setting is not done 
automatically with a LINUX server. I tried PASV but it didn't change the bad 
transfer rate. Could you tell me what this setting could be? Thank you!

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Re: FTP from PTF.BOULDER.IBM.COM

2008-06-17 Thread Patrick Lyon

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:27:10 +0100, Crispin Hugo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody having problems with using FTP from IBM.BOULDER.IBM.COM  .Works 
ok
from IE but times out on open from VM or Z/OS or from PC CMD .

Our network chaps say 'nothing has changed'

Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
Macro 4


Crispin, you can try a trace route from z/OS via the TSO TRACERTE 
PTF.BOULDER.IBM.COM address or via PC CMD via the tracert 
ptf.boulder.ibm.com command and see what you get.  Then show this to your 
network chaps.

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Re: FTP from PTF.BOULDER.IBM.COM

2008-06-17 Thread Barkow, Eileen

 I thought that they are using ftp.emea.ibm.com now

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:27:10 +0100, Crispin Hugo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody having problems with using FTP from IBM.BOULDER.IBM.COM  .Works

ok
from IE but times out on open from VM or Z/OS or from PC CMD .

Our network chaps say 'nothing has changed'

Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
Macro 4


Crispin, you can try a trace route from z/OS via the TSO TRACERTE 
PTF.BOULDER.IBM.COM address or via PC CMD via the tracert 
ptf.boulder.ibm.com command and see what you get.  Then show this to
your 
network chaps.

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Re: Poll about telecommuting

2008-06-17 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie

Corneel,

I have not lost my skills of the heavenly language, I am only using the 
language of my opressors, for the benefit of Dermot. There is an requirement in 
our organization to be able to use characters like ê in CICS free text fields 
for French customers... Yet, the guy on the other side of the phone is sitting 
on Poland with a polish keyboard... That is globalization for you...

Any ideas?

Regards

Herbie
Elavon Financial Services Limited
Registered in Ireland: Number 418442
Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, 
Co. Dublin, Ireland
Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins,  Terrance Dolan (USA),  Pamela 
Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson
Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the 
Financial Regulator

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Tom Marchant

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:21:25 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

I guess that we may need to do this. But it is going to be a nightmare!
All the source is in Endevor controlled libraries. The load library in
the DFHRPL is Endevor controlled. Linking into this environment outside
of Endevor is another political nightmare.

Understood.  But can you add another data set to the DFHRPL concatenation 
to test?

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-17 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM



Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
om...
 Ad hoc SMF reporting might be a good fit for Tivoli Decision Support
for
 z/OS, with or without its various options (such as Usage and
Accounting
 Manager) depending on your requirements.
 
 I believe CA also has something in this category. My guess would be
some
 combination of CA SMF Director, CA JARS Resource Management, and/or CA
MICS
 Resource Management. Macro4's ExpeTune does at least some SMF
reporting. I
 suspect I'm forgetting other possibilities.,
 

CA MICS requires that you have SAS. It is fully written in SAS.

Kees.
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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:46 AM
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 Subject: Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

 On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:21:25 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

 I guess that we may need to do this. But it is going to be a 
 nightmare!
 All the source is in Endevor controlled libraries. The load 
 library in
 the DFHRPL is Endevor controlled. Linking into this 
 environment outside
 of Endevor is another political nightmare.

 Understood.  But can you add another data set to the DFHRPL 
 concatenation 
 to test?

 -- 
 Tom Marchant

I'll take that up with the CICS person. We may end up doing that.
Thanks.

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

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 Behalf Of McKown, John
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:53 AM
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 Subject: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)
Snipped 
 Any ideas about another way to do this which would
 not require a new Endevor processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor,
 but I don't see a way to use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't
 know if this would be easier to implement in Endevor than the PARM.

John,

It's been a while since I worked with Endeavor, but ISTR there is (or
was in that shop) a capability to specify binder control cards (in a
separate library type that was an optional part of the source package)
which would allow you to override the PARM AMODE value.  I know I used
it for a similar purpose as your programmer, to guarantee RMODE(24) and
AMODE(24).

Don't forget to tell the programmer to also use the Enterprise COBOL
option DATA(24) if he is calling AMODE(24) assembler.

Who is your Endeavor administrator?  That person (the one who controls
the Endeavor processes) may be more help here.  In the shop where I used
it the Endeavor admins were in the system assurance/operations control
area.

HTH

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Thompson, Steve

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Behalf Of McKown, John
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:53 AM
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Subject: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

SNIP
Any ideas about another way to do this which would not require a new
Endevor processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor, but I don't see a
way to use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't know if this would be
easier to implement in Endevor than the PARM.

SNIP

Have the programmer do a call that causes a static link to an assembler
routine that is AMODE(24) RMODE(24). This should force BINDER (unless
your Endevor processor overrides it) to mark the resulting load module
AMODE(24) RMODE(24). The assembler routine only needs to be a DC to
create a table or some such.

Regards,
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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Leahy

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:52 AM, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 P.S. I am not as convinced as the programmer that the problems he is
 encountering are due to the AMODE. But he is insistant and has the
 political backing to force the issue. The only way to prove otherwise to
 allow him to do his work in AMODE(24) and see if he still has the same
mu problems. He has already done a lot of figure out this for me type
 requests to Tech Services.


Has he tried using DATA(24) in his Enterprise Cobol compiles?  In my
limited experience, that usually does the trick when calling old
subroutines.

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

[snip]

 Who is your Endeavor administrator?  That person (the one who controls
 the Endeavor processes) may be more help here.  In the shop 
 where I used
 it the Endeavor admins were in the system assurance/operations control
 area.
 
 HTH
 
 Peter

We do have a lady who is, as we affectionately call her, the change
queen. She has consented to create a new CICS/Enterprise COBOL
processor for this one function.

So, no problem any more. Well, at least this is not a problem. I'm not
sure what will happen if this RMODE/AMODE doesn't magically fix all the
problems.

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Jim Harrison

You can use the Process Group parameter on the add/update panel.  Don't know 
how it works internally, but we use it to specify MQ includes on linkedits for 
our cobol processor.  Works reasonably well, but is sort of a PITA because I 
aways forget the name of the processor group if I go a long time between 
compiles



- Original Message 
From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:52:32 AM
Subject: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written
in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise
COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge
about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we use CA-Endevor
for our program compiles and links. This means that we need a separate
Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm. Any
ideas about another way to do this which would not require a new Endevor
processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor, but I don't see a way to
use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't know if this would be easier
to implement in Endevor than the PARM.

P.S. I am not as convinced as the programmer that the problems he is
encountering are due to the AMODE. But he is insistant and has the
political backing to force the issue. The only way to prove otherwise to
allow him to do his work in AMODE(24) and see if he still has the same
problems. He has already done a lot of figure out this for me type
requests to Tech Services.

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-17 Thread Anton Britz

Hi Ron,

My apology for the WTF stuff but as i told my NYC friend, without a DVR in 
each room at home, you miss a lot of the WTF stuff ex. I told him in Nov 2007, 
the Democratic nomination is over and he was still contemplating who to vote 
for. Never mind.. he is still ignoring me because of this stupid political 
race 
that is actually already OVER... We know who is going to win in Nov 2008.

Quick explanation of the WTF stuff this morning :

a) Viagra Stimulus check 

The check that is suppose to save the USA economy.
The $600 that you will get if you filed your 2007 taxes in time and will 
boost 
the economy and make eveyrthing like it use to be in the 90's.
Yes... not only are politicians cutting taxes.. they are giving it back , when 
they have a deficit. 

b) War Arsenal

The Feds are pumping 12 Billion a month into keeping you safe... WAR money, 
bombs, planes, uniforms, American flags to your parents.

Maybe more in renewing the strike capabilities of the Military. Initially, they 
wanted to stimilate the economy by giving it all to NASA and then they where 
going to renew all the roads/bridges in the USA... I know...I know... I have 
to 
get my self a hobby.. that what my Mothers says... Get off the computer 
and go and do something.  It's so bad that they shipped Nucleur Missile war 
head to Taiwan accidently Accidently... but to save their embarresment 
they fired the Chief of the Navy.

Never mind... get your self a DVR or two and then you can catch up with all 
the happening quickly while having dinner or breakfast.

Note: Was watching George last night thanking Brown'ie for supporting his 
vision in helping him with money and troops in Afhganistan. Did you see who 
the SAudi's blamed for the high oil price after Banki Moon asked them to 
pump more oil because Europa is coming to stand still No, I know you did 
not because if you then see McCain's speech about what to do about 
the High Oil price, you have to laugh.

Note: Technology is helping us understand whats going on around us but some 
politicians or people are not using it yet.. That is why people in Ohio and 
Texas voted for a loser. Never mind...

My sympathy to those people in Iowa, Missourri, Wisconsin that are looking for 
Fed support for the Flood because they announced this morning, there is no 
more money. It's being used to build democracies some where else in the 
World.

Anton


On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:22:07 -0700, Ron Hawkins 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anton,

I can't sit in the senate. I've been a foreigner in every country I've lived
in for the last 15 years. Best I can manage here is to be the Guvna.

I'd be more than happy for my nieces and nephews in Australia and the
Philippines to have a job in a call centre for a US company as they
stimulate my family's' economies. I don't see a problem.

Viagra Stimulus Checks, War arsenals, Nuclear bombs... WTF are you
rabbitting about...

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Anton Britz
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:16 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Outsourcing hits new low

 Hi Ron,

 Yes, because the Viagra Stimulus Checks would then stimulate your own
 Economy, taxes, roads etc. (Check the mess Arnie is in currently..
 Budget
 deficit wise but yes, I saw his wife on the Tim Russert show yesterday,
 talking
 from Sun Valley.. Ever been in Sun Valley ? )

 Alternatively, you have to sit in the Senate for 50 years, to become a
 Chairman  of an appropriations committee in order to channel a few
 Billion to
 your local Mom and Pop shop.  Currently your local Mom and Pop shop
 needs to be manufacturing bombs to be able to pay the groceries.

 Note: What's going to eventually happen to all the bombs/Nuclear
 heads
 being manufactured because Cabella's can not sell them yet or my
 brother-in-
 law could not buy some this weekend. ( He farms in Africa and was
 impressed
 with the war arsenal you can buy in the USA stores. The computer stores
 are
 all closing down)

 Anton


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Re: FTP from PTF.BOULDER.IBM.COM

2008-06-17 Thread Rick Fochtman


--snip---
Our network chaps say 'nothing has changed'
---unsnip-
And another famous lie: The check is in the mail. Don't believe it 
until you've personally checked it out!


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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Rick Fochtman


-snip
We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written 
in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise 
COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge 
about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the 
major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to 
force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do 
this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we use CA-Endevor 
for our program compiles and links. This means that we need a separate 
Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm. Any 
ideas about another way to do this which would not require a new Endevor 
processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor, but I don't see a way to 
use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't know if this would be easier 
to implement in Endevor than the PARM.


P.S. I am not as convinced as the programmer that the problems he is 
encountering are due to the AMODE. But he is insistant and has the 
political backing to force the issue. The only way to prove otherwise to 
allow him to do his work in AMODE(24) and see if he still has the same 
problems. He has already done a lot of figure out this for me type 
requests to Tech Services.

--unsnip-
ISTR that if the program wasn't capable of 31-bit mode, the compiler 
wouldn't mark it that way. You programmer is full of something I can't 
mention here, in the interests of propriety. After Endevor links the 
program, run a separate step to re-link the program, assigning the same 
entry point. The second link should run just fine and you can mark it 
AMODE=24 and RMODE=24 via binder arms. ASnd when it still fails, you can 
point out to the so-called superiors that this guy doesn't really know 
sh** from shinola. He sounds like a very arrogant person, or very 
ignorant person. Either way, he needs to be put in his place.


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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question


Bri P wrote:

It shouldn't matter too much for your PCI audit. The requirement is not really 
that each server has exactly the same time, as long as any time difference is 
fairly constant and is quantifiable. It's there really so that different 
server's system logs can be used collectively or in concert should some later 
investigation into something become necessary.

If you can demonstrate to your auditor that you take steps to ensure that the 
mainframe clock does not drift too much and that you know what any time 
difference is, he should accept that, or at least note that a compensating 
control is in place. For example, twice a year setting the HMC system clock 
with some external time reference (even the Speaking Clock) and ensuring that 
your IPL'd systems pick up that changed time. You don't need to be 
second-accurate, as long as the difference is known.
  


Keep in mind that the TOD clock represents GMT (or UTC). Local time is 
calculated by adjusting GMT by CVTLDTO and CVTLSO. If the TOD drifts by 
a second or more, you can fix local time with a compensating adjustment 
to the time zone offset. See SET TIMEZONE= command.


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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread John P Kalinich

John McKown of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 06/17/2008 08:52:32 AM:

 We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written
 in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise
 COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge
 about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
 major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
 force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
 this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder.

Compile with the NODYNAM option and you will get AMODE(24).

Regards,
John K

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Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

2008-06-17 Thread Ulrich Krueger

Francois,
Could it be possible that there is a configuration mismatch in the router /
switch that your Linux server is cabled up to? I seem to remember something
about performance issues, when the server auto-negotiates with the switch
and comes up with a setting of half-duplex, 10 Mbps when it should have been
running full-duplex, 100+ Mbps. Have your network guys look into router /
switch configuration for that particular port.


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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The port 113 was closed on the LINUX server. We opened it and did the test
again but the transfer rate is unchanged.


François Paré  tél.: 4013

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-17 Thread Rich Smrcina


OK... this is all related to mainframes how???


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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL

and/or CA MICS

Not a good choice.
MICS uses SAS.
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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:27:18 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

Keep in mind that the TOD clock represents GMT (or UTC). Local time is
calculated by adjusting GMT by CVTLDTO and CVTLSO. If the TOD drifts by
a second or more, you can fix local time with a compensating adjustment
to the time zone offset. See SET TIMEZONE= command.

Gaah!  Since Good Practice dictates that critical timestamps
be kept in UTC (or GMT) your suggestion more conceals the problem
of drift than fixes it.

How will this affect the time reported by z/OS Unix programs which
use time() to get UTC and strftime() to get civil time?  How will
this affect Java applications?

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL

... The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
force the load module to AMODE(24).

Why would anybody want to run in AMODE(24) in this day and age?
As anybody told the programmer to get into the new millenium?

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL

Okay.
Sorry for resonding to my own post, but I never saw the original problem 
statement, until it was echoed in a subsequent post.
I still believe AMODE(24) is passé, but now I know the reason.

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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:21:21 
To:IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)


... The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
force the load module to AMODE(24).

Why would anybody want to run in AMODE(24) in this day and age?
As anybody told the programmer to get into the new millenium?

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:08:42 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote:

Actually, as of October, 2007, System z's Server Time Protocol (STP) can
act as a Simple Network Time Protocol (SNTP)/NTP ...

http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/pso/stp/ntp.html

Hooray!

Also, I agree that it is highly desirable to have your mainframe act as the
master (S)NTP server ...

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.halu101/sntpdinfo.htm

So, in summary, you can use the STP feature to let the mainframe get a
master time for your organization (via SNTP/NTP client support, such as by
connecting to a dedicated GPS box that delivers its time signal via a

Gulp. $$$?

closed NTP link). Then use the mainframe's SNTPD -- included with z/OS --
to keep every other server and client in sync. That'd be the preferred
approach.

Now you must face the organizational politics. The group with the
existing NTP server may not wish to relinquish its position in
the pecking order, and argue, We were given the requirement to
provide 5-second accuracy compared to NIST and 1-second agreement
across the installation. We are meeting that requirement and
operating successfully. Can you provide a business justification
for spending $$$ to get accuracy 1000 times better than needed?
They may be deaf to the argument, We're the best so we should
be the master. By being in closer agreement with NIST, you may
be perceived as violating established practice.

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:21 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

 ... The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
 major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). 
 He wants to
 force the load module to AMODE(24).

 Why would anybody want to run in AMODE(24) in this day and age?
 As anybody told the programmer to get into the new millenium?

 -

He is convinced that parts of the code simply cannot use AMODE(31)
without extensive rewriting, which he does not have the time or the
knowledge to do. The assembler is very crufty and tricky in the bad
sense of the word. Why can't I use RMODE(ANY), AMODE(31) with QSAM I/O?
(rhetorical question - I do know why - this code may similar tricks such
as using the high byte of a register for flags).

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-17 Thread Mohammad Khan

Well ... the relation is ... Anton. He has expertise in both mainframes 
and this stuff.



On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:15:50 -0500, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

OK... this is all related to mainframes how???


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

2008-06-17 Thread Adams, Rick

John,
I believe that an EXPIREBV ABARSVERSIONS command was probably issued -
that is if you do not see this normally - and you do not show any other
versions expiring.  If you look in the syslog, where the command ran,
you should be able to find who issued it.  If it was a batch job you may
need to look at SMF to find jobs that started at about the same time.

ThanksRick

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:04 AM
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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

Hallo To All,
nbsp;
I am trying to track down the reason why an ABARS dsn was expired.nbsp;
I checked in the log and it shows the following : 
KEY DVTAU.2008164000101 WAS DELETED BY EXPIREBV ABARVSVERSION COMMAND,
RC=0
ARC0681I EXPIRE ABARS VERSIONS ENDING AT 17;10:05 ON 2008/06/12.
nbsp;
The dsn was created at 07:10:52 Date 08/06/12
nbsp;
My question is was this a manual command entered?nbsp; I checked the
HSM startup but I didn't find any SETSYS commands which would issue the
EXPIREBV.
nbsp;
If this command was entered by someone is there someplace I can look for
the USERID?
nbsp;
Thanks


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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-17 Thread Anton Britz

Rich,

Ask me a computer question then ? or if you look at the Thread Subject 
line .. it's says Outsourcing hits a new low

So, I will explain that for you :

Outsourcing :  A hot political issue that got Egg all over Hillaries face

a new Low :  An expression of degree relating to a 'Political hot issue' that 
you 
will be aware off, if you have a DVR.

Note: i do not mind to explain , if you do not understand but most people 
work/vote/buy without even reading/listening/watching. Do your self a favor 
and go and sit at the entrance of your local Wal-mart and then you ask your 
self, how can these people vote for a leader. If you do not have a Wal-mart.. 
go to the local DMV office... Just go and sit there for 20 minutes and read 
your Unix manual or if you really want to do it the IBM way.. go to the 
Greenwich YachtClub and then you look at the CEO's house accross the 
river ,, while reading your Unix on IBM manual.

Greenwich is in Connecticut. ( Little below Yale and above NYc )

Anton

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IBM perks for Linux development?

2008-06-17 Thread David Logan

I thought IBM used to provide perks to companies that were actively
developing products on a Linux server. Was this true? If so, is it still
true? If so, where could I find some information or a contact?

 

If I recall, the reasoning behind it was to encourage companies to develop
Linux based software.

 

Thanks!

 

David Logan

Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Business Insight

 http://centrus.com/ http://centrus.com

4750 Walnut St, Suite 200

Boulder, CO  80301

W: (720) 564-3056

 


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insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Bill Klein

There is ABSOLUTELY no way that you will get an Enterprise COBOL CICS
program to work if it is marked as AMODE(24).  All the IGY and CEE
routines that it will need to run will have problems.  You could get an
RMODE program, but that isn't what you are asking for.

If the programmer wants to force RMODE(24), then use the
  PROCESS RMODE(24)
statement as the first line of the source code.  This should

This should work unless your compiler was installed with NOALLOWCBL 

How does the COBOL program access the HLASM program (or vice versa), EXEC
CICS LINK? CALL literal or CALL identifier.  Depending on the type of ILC
has the responsible programmer read what IBM has to say about these.

McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written
 in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise
 COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge
 about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
 major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
 force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
 this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we use CA-Endevor
 for our program compiles and links. This means that we need a separate
 Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm. Any
 ideas about another way to do this which would not require a new Endevor
 processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor, but I don't see a way to
 use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't know if this would be easier
 to implement in Endevor than the PARM.
 
 P.S. I am not as convinced as the programmer that the problems he is
 encountering are due to the AMODE. But he is insistant and has the
 political backing to force the issue. The only way to prove otherwise to
 allow him to do his work in AMODE(24) and see if he still has the same
 problems. He has already done a lot of figure out this for me type
 requests to Tech Services.
 
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Fw: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Bill Klein

If it was originally compiled with DYNAM, it wouldn't work with CICS any
way.  It must already be NODYNAM.  

NODYNAM doesn't force AMDOE(24) unless an AMDOE(24) program is statically
linked-in.

John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 John McKown of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 wrote on 06/17/2008 08:52:32 AM:
 
  We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written
  in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise
  COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge
  about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
  major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
  force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
  this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder.
 
 Compile with the NODYNAM option and you will get AMODE(24).
 
 Regards,
 John K


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Re: UR1 vs FIN


Roger Bolan wrote:
UR1 is used for changes that are regarded as new function or some kind 
of improvement or enhancement that was not technically a programming 
error (close code PER) because the program was implementing what the 
programming specification had said it should do.   It also means that the 
fix will be in a PTF for the current release.
  


Pinnacle wrote:
It's better than a FIN because the work's been done.  I've had FIN's 
get lost before, and waited multiple releases for the fix.


Based on what I learned here, I asked:
|UR1 means the fix has already been coded and tested. Otherwise, it would
|be FIN. Right? 


The response was ...
|  UR1 does not indicate that the fix has
|already been coded and tested.  It basically means that the problem will
|be fixed but cannot be rolled back to earlier releases.

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-17 Thread Tom Ross

With reference modification available, the only things that are
awkward in COBOL are bit switches and the 1 byte binary fields.  I
have written usage programs that parse the SMF 14/15, 30 and 64
records.  If IBM would just implement the data types in the 2002
standard including the new floating point usages as IEEE, COBOL the
above caveats would go away and COBOL would play nicer with JAVA.
COMP-1 and COMP-2 could be retained for hex floating point so a single
COBOL program could have both types of floating point.  YES there is a
SHARE requirement for this.

Java does not have Decimal Floating Point yet, and COBOL already plays
very nicely with automatic conversion from Java float to COBOL float
and back again with direct calls.  In any case, it is off topic, there
is no Decimal Floating Point data in SMF records that I know of.

Cheers,
TomR   COBOL is the Language of the Future! 

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

2008-06-17 Thread John Dawes

Rick,
nbsp;
Thanks for the tip.nbsp; I found the culprit - batch job which did the 
deed.nbsp; However, I don't understand why the dsn was expired even though the 
Management class has no limit and 999.

--- On Wed, 18/6/08, Adams, Rick lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: Adams, Rick lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Received: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 2:57 AM

John,
I believe that an EXPIREBV ABARSVERSIONS command was probably issued -
that is if you do not see this normally - and you do not show any other
versions expiring.  If you look in the syslog, where the command ran,
you should be able to find who issued it.  If it was a batch job you may
need to look at SMF to find jobs that started at about the same time.

ThanksRick

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Behalf Of John Dawes
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

Hallo To All,
amp;nbsp;
I am trying to track down the reason why an ABARS dsn was expired.amp;nbsp;
I checked in the log and it shows the following : 
KEY DVTAU.2008164000101 WAS DELETED BY EXPIREBV ABARVSVERSION COMMAND,
RC=0
ARC0681I EXPIRE ABARS VERSIONS ENDING AT 17;10:05 ON 2008/06/12.
amp;nbsp;
The dsn was created at 07:10:52 Date 08/06/12
amp;nbsp;
My question is was this a manual command entered?amp;nbsp; I checked the
HSM startup but I didn't find any SETSYS commands which would issue the
EXPIREBV.
amp;nbsp;
If this command was entered by someone is there someplace I can look for
the USERID?
amp;nbsp;
Thanks

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

2008-06-17 Thread Adams, Rick

If the command did not use a RETAINVERSIONS I believe it will remove it
regardless of the management class.

ThanksRick

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of John Dawes
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

Rick,
nbsp;
Thanks for the tip.nbsp; I found the culprit - batch job which did the
deed.nbsp; However, I don't understand why the dsn was expired even
though the Management class has no limit and 999.

--- On Wed, 18/6/08, Adams, Rick lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: Adams, Rick lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Received: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 2:57 AM

John,
I believe that an EXPIREBV ABARSVERSIONS command was probably issued -
that is if you do not see this normally - and you do not show any other
versions expiring.  If you look in the syslog, where the command ran,
you should be able to find who issued it.  If it was a batch job you may
need to look at SMF to find jobs that started at about the same time.

ThanksRick

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Dawes
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

Hallo To All,
amp;nbsp;
I am trying to track down the reason why an ABARS dsn was
expired.amp;nbsp;
I checked in the log and it shows the following : 
KEY DVTAU.2008164000101 WAS DELETED BY EXPIREBV ABARVSVERSION COMMAND,
RC=0
ARC0681I EXPIRE ABARS VERSIONS ENDING AT 17;10:05 ON 2008/06/12.
amp;nbsp;
The dsn was created at 07:10:52 Date 08/06/12
amp;nbsp;
My question is was this a manual command entered?amp;nbsp; I checked
the
HSM startup but I didn't find any SETSYS commands which would issue the
EXPIREBV.
amp;nbsp;
If this command was entered by someone is there someplace I can look for
the USERID?
amp;nbsp;
Thanks

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT

2008-06-17 Thread John Dawes

I checked and the job had RETAINVERSIONS(0).nbsp; According to the doc and 
your help, this parmnbsp;if usednbsp;no versions will be retained.nbsp;

Thank you for your help.

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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT
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Received: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 4:45 AM

If the command did not use a RETAINVERSIONS I believe it will remove it
regardless of the management class.

ThanksRick

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Rick,
amp;nbsp;
Thanks for the tip.amp;nbsp; I found the culprit - batch job which did the
deed.amp;nbsp; However, I don't understand why the dsn was expired even
though the Management class has no limit and 999.

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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIREBV - URGENT
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John,
I believe that an EXPIREBV ABARSVERSIONS command was probably issued -
that is if you do not see this normally - and you do not show any other
versions expiring.  If you look in the syslog, where the command ran,
you should be able to find who issued it.  If it was a batch job you may
need to look at SMF to find jobs that started at about the same time.

ThanksRick

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Hallo To All,
amp;amp;nbsp;
I am trying to track down the reason why an ABARS dsn was
expired.amp;amp;nbsp;
I checked in the log and it shows the following : 
KEY DVTAU.2008164000101 WAS DELETED BY EXPIREBV ABARVSVERSION COMMAND,
RC=0
ARC0681I EXPIRE ABARS VERSIONS ENDING AT 17;10:05 ON 2008/06/12.
amp;amp;nbsp;
The dsn was created at 07:10:52 Date 08/06/12
amp;amp;nbsp;
My question is was this a manual command entered?amp;amp;nbsp; I checked
the
HSM startup but I didn't find any SETSYS commands which would issue the
EXPIREBV.
amp;amp;nbsp;
If this command was entered by someone is there someplace I can look for
the USERID?
amp;amp;nbsp;
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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Howard Brazee

On 17 Jun 2008 09:29:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:

Why would anybody want to run in AMODE(24) in this day and age?
As anybody told the programmer to get into the new millenium?

We have some assembly language programs that are called to connect
with cash machines that use AMODE(24).   A consultant spent a couple
of months trying to get around that limitation, but management said it
wasn't worth fixing.

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L

We have some assembly language programs that are called to connect
with cash machines that use AMODE(24).   A consultant spent a couple
of months trying to get around that limitation, but management said it
wasn't worth fixing.

Short term it may not be worth it but over the long run it would save a
lot of headaches and money. Mangement has a bad tendency to only see as
far as the next quarter and misses opportunities to resolve longer term
problems. What are they going to do if this stops working down the road?
Hire a super expensive consultant to try to fix it, if they can find
one, that is.  


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Help in determining Maint UA39940

2008-06-17 Thread Lizette Koehler

I need some guidance on how to implement this type of PTF.

I am working on my first wave of z/OS V1.9 maint. So I am running z/OS V1.7 and 
z/OS V1.9 in the same plex will all shared dasd.  Toleration maint is in place.

I am seeing the following types of fixes for DFHSM.  Does this mean I need to 
hold this until all DFHSM members in this plex are z/OS V1.9 or can I install 
it and over the next few weeks get z/OS V1.9 rolled out to all of my systems.  
This roll out will be completed by end of July.

UA39940 DFSMS DSMShsm 
RESTART 
Use the appropriate started task name for each instance of DFSMShsm and restart 
in accordance with your local guidelines and procedures.



Thanks for helping me in understanding the ramifications.

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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Tom Marchant

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:16:36 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:

... What are they going to do if this stops working down the road?
Hire a super expensive consultant to try to fix it, if they can find
one, that is.

Sure, they can fine one, depending on what you mean by super expensive.  
There are a lot of people on this list who would gladly look at it for $300 per 
hour.  Maybe even for less

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-17 Thread Chauhan, Jasbir

Thanks for all your responses. 2nd Level support too came back with the
'z/OS currently is not implemented as SNTPD client' response. However,
they did add my name to the list of their 'Marketing database inquiries'
for such a request. Apparently there are others who have made similar
requests but the numbers aren't enough to get any consideration. The
fact that it would require a design change would lead me to believe that
there was no immediate plan to add this feature in the upcoming z/OS
releases either.

 

Unfortunately, the PCI standard is big on absolute statements such as
Synchronize all critical system clocks and times and Verify that NTP
or similar technology is used for time synchronization.  Anything that
does not meet the specified standards must have a compensating control
that meets and exceeds the requirement.  

 

The assessor on-site, is here to both ensure we are in compliance with
the PCI standard and to help us find solutions to help us comply.  In
our discussion yesterday he specifically stated that setting time
manually has not been accepted by Visa in their review of similar PCI
reports. Hopefully, we can come up with a compromise.

 

Best Regards,

Jasbir

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Keep in mind that the TOD clock represents GMT (or UTC). Local time is 

calculated by adjusting GMT by CVTLDTO and CVTLSO. If the TOD drifts by 

a second or more, you can fix local time with a compensating adjustment 

to the time zone offset. See SET TIMEZONE= command.

 

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Re: Help in determining Maint UA39940

2008-06-17 Thread Brian Peterson

RESTART holds have to do with the steps needed to implement a particular 
PTF if the PTF is SMP/E applied to a running system.

I ignore all RESTART holds, because I never SMP/E-apply maintenance to a 
running system.  Instead, I apply maintenance to a new sysres, and then IPL 
to implement the maintenance, during a scheduled maintenance window when 
we can perform a rolling-IPL of our LPARs.

If you implement maintenance via an IPL from a new sysres, you can ignore all 
RESTART holds.  If you implement maintenance to a running system, well, good 
luck to you.

Brian


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:19:51 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote:

I need some guidance on how to implement this type of PTF.

I am working on my first wave of z/OS V1.9 maint. So I am running z/OS V1.7 
and z/OS V1.9 in the same plex will all shared dasd.  Toleration maint is in 
place.

I am seeing the following types of fixes for DFHSM.  Does this mean I need to 
hold this until all DFHSM members in this plex are z/OS V1.9 or can I install 
it 
and over the next few weeks get z/OS V1.9 rolled out to all of my systems.  
This roll out will be completed by end of July.

UA39940DFSMS DSMShsm
RESTART
Use the appropriate started task name for each instance of DFSMShsm and 
restart in accordance with your local guidelines and procedures.



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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-17 Thread Brian Peterson

I'm wondering if you've asked the wrong question to the wrong support group.

Basic concept.  In mainframes, Time is a hardware function.  For this reason, 
setting the time is best handled at the hardware level. 

You have a couple of alternatives, depending on your hardware configuration.

For Parallel Sysplex based technology, IBM has supported the 9037 Sysplex 
Timer for many years.  The Sysplex Timer can dial out to NIST ACTS in Boulder 
Colorado for a time synchronization accuracy of something like 0.1 second or 
better.

OR

IBM has introduced a follow-on technology called STP which is built into the 
mainframe itself.  This technology is enabled by ordering a feature code to be 
installed on the machine, and is available on z990, z890, z9 and z10 servers.  
STP supports dial out to NIST ACTS in Boulder, and has just recently been 
enhanced to allow the STP service to synchronize to a local or internet-based 
NTP service.

So, to answer the literal question of an NTP Client for z/OS, the literal 
answer 
is STP syncronized to an NTP service.  To answer the more broad-based 
question of making sure a mainframe system automatically has the correct 
time, the broad-based answer is any one of the above options.

Brian


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:31:29 -0400, Chauhan, Jasbir wrote:

Thanks for all your responses. 2nd Level support too came back with the
'z/OS currently is not implemented as SNTPD client' response. However,
they did add my name to the list of their 'Marketing database inquiries'
for such a request. Apparently there are others who have made similar
requests but the numbers aren't enough to get any consideration. The
fact that it would require a design change would lead me to believe that
there was no immediate plan to add this feature in the upcoming z/OS
releases either.

 

Unfortunately, the PCI standard is big on absolute statements such as
Synchronize all critical system clocks and times and Verify that NTP
or similar technology is used for time synchronization.  Anything that
does not meet the specified standards must have a compensating control
that meets and exceeds the requirement.  

 

The assessor on-site, is here to both ensure we are in compliance with
the PCI standard and to help us find solutions to help us comply.  In
our discussion yesterday he specifically stated that setting time
manually has not been accepted by Visa in their review of similar PCI
reports. Hopefully, we can come up with a compromise.

 

Best Regards,

Jasbir

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question


Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:27:18 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
  

Keep in mind that the TOD clock represents GMT (or UTC). Local time is
calculated by adjusting GMT by CVTLDTO and CVTLSO. If the TOD drifts by
a second or more, you can fix local time with a compensating adjustment
to the time zone offset. See SET TIMEZONE= command.



Gaah!  Since Good Practice dictates that critical timestamps
be kept in UTC (or GMT) your suggestion more conceals the problem
of drift than fixes it.
  


The whole point of using UTC (or GMT) time stamps is to avoid issues 
when the time zone offset is changed. For these logging applications, 
local time is irrelevant.



How will this affect the time reported by z/OS Unix programs which
use time() to get UTC and strftime() to get civil time?  How will
this affect Java applications?
  


I don't know how z/OS UNIX programs compute local time. If they use a 
technique that does not rely on CVTLDTO and CVTLSO, they are already 
out-of-sync with the rest of the system.


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Re: insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Howard Brazee

On 17 Jun 2008 12:17:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Veilleux, Jon L)
wrote:

Short term it may not be worth it but over the long run it would save a
lot of headaches and money. Mangement has a bad tendency to only see as
far as the next quarter and misses opportunities to resolve longer term
problems. What are they going to do if this stops working down the road?
Hire a super expensive consultant to try to fix it, if they can find
one, that is.  

The long term solution is what's happening now - replace the system.

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-17 Thread Brian Peterson

What *do* you have?  Do you have IBM 9037 Sysplex Timer?

Brian

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:16:18 -0400, Chauhan, Jasbir wrote:

Brian, As you  others pointed out, STP is the key-word here. Maybe I
should have made that clear at the outset - we don't have it. I was
looking for alternatives -- and inform the decision makers accordingly.
Thanks for all the feedback.

Best Regards,
Jasbir

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Network Time Protocol (NTP) client

2008-06-17 Thread George Kozakos


 Edward Jaffe wrote:
  Keep in mind that the TOD clock represents GMT (or UTC). Local time is   
 calculated by adjusting GMT by CVTLDTO and CVTLSO. If the TOD drifts by
 a second or more, you can fix local time with a compensating adjustment
 to the time zone offset. See SET TIMEZONE= command.

 Actually the TOD clock represents STCK time.   
 UTC time = STCK time - CVTLSO  
 LOCAL time = STCK time - CVTLSO + CVTLDTO  

 The IPCS LTOD gives a display of this which makes it easy to see.  
 Of course you need to be on a system with CVTLSO set to see a  
 difference between STCK time and UTC time. 




Regards,
George Kozakos
z/OS Function Test/Level 3 Supervisor

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-17 Thread Hal Merritt

The z/9 cannot be a SNTP client, but there are hardware features to sync
the z/9 hardware clock to a secondary or primary standard (NIST). That
once was the now withdrawn sysplex timer and is now software loaded in
the HMC.  

If your SMTP server is also in sync with NIST, then the requirement
should be satisfied. 



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Subject: Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

Thanks for all your responses. 2nd Level support too came back with the
'z/OS currently is not implemented as SNTPD client' response. However,
they did add my name to the list of their 'Marketing database inquiries'
for such a request. Apparently there are others who have made similar
requests but the numbers aren't enough to get any consideration. The
fact that it would require a design change would lead me to believe that
there was no immediate plan to add this feature in the upcoming z/OS
releases either.

 

Unfortunately, the PCI standard is big on absolute statements such as
Synchronize all critical system clocks and times and Verify that NTP
or similar technology is used for time synchronization.  Anything that
does not meet the specified standards must have a compensating control
that meets and exceeds the requirement.  

 

The assessor on-site, is here to both ensure we are in compliance with
the PCI standard and to help us find solutions to help us comply.  In
our discussion yesterday he specifically stated that setting time
manually has not been accepted by Visa in their review of similar PCI
reports. Hopefully, we can come up with a compromise.

 

Best Regards,

Jasbir

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

 

   

 

 

Keep in mind that the TOD clock represents GMT (or UTC). Local time is 

calculated by adjusting GMT by CVTLDTO and CVTLSO. If the TOD drifts by 

a second or more, you can fix local time with a compensating adjustment 

to the time zone offset. See SET TIMEZONE= command.

 

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-17 Thread Roger Lowe

snip..
 
How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories) from
one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
 ...snip

Mike,
   You could create your new HFS and mount it temporarily on the
downlevel system and then use 'copytree' to copy your selected
directory/sub-directories.

You should be able to get a copy of 'copytree' from the IBM UNIX Tools amp;
Toys website but if you can't find it, contact me offline

Hope this helps

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Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM

2008-06-17 Thread George, William (DHCS-ITSD)

If you have any real life thoughts/knowledge/experience regarding a
migration from Serena's Changeman ZMF to IBM's SCLM change control
products please pass them along.  There are talks in the work here of
possibly making this switch and I'd appreciate for any insights good or
bad that I may share with management.

 

Thank you.

Bill 

 

 


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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-17 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G

Mike

Do the LPARS share the same catalog for the HFS files ?, if so you can
create a new HFS file mount it and use the Unix cp command to copy the
files across cp -R /current /new/hfs/mount/point, once the copy has
completed unmount the new hfs file.
Go to the other lpar mount your new hfs and copy out whatever
files/directories you need.

If the lpars do not share a catalog, we use ADRDSSU to dump the file and
the use ADRDSSU on the other lpar to restore the hfs with a new name,
then mount it and you can copy out what you need.

Regards
Gerard Ceruti 
may the 'z' be with you

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snip..
 
How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What
I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories)
from
one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
 ...snip

Mike,
   You could create your new HFS and mount it temporarily on the
downlevel system and then use 'copytree' to copy your selected
directory/sub-directories.

You should be able to get a copy of 'copytree' from the IBM UNIX Tools
amp;
Toys website but if you can't find it, contact me offline

Hope this helps

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Single RES

2008-06-17 Thread Ron Wells

Looking for some method to Clone/setup a Single RES rescue RES volume ... 
to include TCP as well as VTAM...

Anything out there---freebe wise??

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Re: Single RES

2008-06-17 Thread Pedro Vera

  freebe wise??

Not sure what you mean.  Normally, you have libraries spread out on a few 
volumes for performance reasons.  But on a recovery volume, you just cram 
everything on one volume and make sure the catalog and procs use the 
correct libraries.   Are you saying your production server does not 
normally have TCP?


Pedro Vera

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Re: Single RES

2008-06-17 Thread Bob Rutledge


http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html is the standard.

Bob

Ron Wells wrote:
Looking for some method to Clone/setup a Single RES rescue RES volume ... 
to include TCP as well as VTAM...


Anything out there---freebe wise??


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Syncsort Special Options

2008-06-17 Thread Martin Kline

I am working with an evaluation copy of Syncsort, so I only have the 
Programmer's Guide, and not even an Installation Guide. It's been many years 
since I worked with Syncsort, so maybe someone here can help with my faulty 
memory.

At one time, didn't Syncsort have a set of options that were managed via 
zap? I know the SYNCMAC options control the common options, but I seem to 
recall there being another set of options/defaults that were controlled via 
zaps. It seems like these options controlled things like what to do when the 
sortout dcb had one lrecl, but the outrec calculated another, and odd 
situations like that.

Anyone recall - or have a manual? I understand the manual may be protected 
from public use, so I'm not asking for a copy.

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Understanding ICH408I message

2008-06-17 Thread Phil Clowes

A user is seeing these messages in the joblog.ICH408I USER(USER01 ) 
GROUP(GROUP01 ) NAME(BATCH ID - APP. 7100) 
SL.D71.TPD1.SEQGDMR1.S2.C.SOUT(RBDMWTRC) CL(DIRSRCH ) 
FID(01C4C2C2F0F6F3003C070003) INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY TO STAT ACCESS 
INTENT(--X) ACCESS ALLOWED(OTHER ---) EFFECTIVE UID(013444) EFFECTIVE 
GID(002100) ICH408I USER(USER01 ) GROUP(GROUP01 ) NAME(BATCH ID - APP. 
7100) CCNECHK CL(DIRSRCH ) FID(01C4C2C2F0F6F3003C070003) INSUFFICIENT 
AUTHORITY TO STAT ACCESS INTENT(--X) ACCESS ALLOWED(OTHER ---) EFFECTIVE 
UID(013444) EFFECTIVE GID(002100) ICH408I USER(USER01 ) GROUP(GROUP01 ) 
NAME(BATCH ID - APP. 7100) CL(DIRSRCH ) FID(01C4C2C2F0F6F3003C070003) 
INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY TO REALPATH ACCESS INTENT(--X) ACCESS ALLOWED(OTHER ---) 
EFFECTIVE UID(013444) EFFECTIVE GID(002100) ICH408I USER(USER01 ) 
GROUP(GROUP01 ) NAME(BATCH ID - APP. 7100) (*.C)=(LIB(DD:CLIB)) CL(DIRSRCH ) 
FID(01C4C2C2F0F6F3003C070003) INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY TO REALPATH ACCESS 
INTENT(--X) ACCESS ALLOWED(OTHER ---) EFFECTIVE UID(013444) EFFECTIVE 
GID(002100) ICH408I USER(USER01 ) GROUP(GROUP01 ) NAME(BATCH ID - APP. 
7100) CL(DIRSRCH ) FID(01C4C2C2F0F6F3003C070003) INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY 
TO REALPATH ACCESS INTENT(--X) ACCESS ALLOWED(OTHER ---) EFFECTIVE 
UID(013444) EFFECTIVE GID(002100) I am trying to get an idea of what is 
going on, but really, the manuals are not too helpful especially for a 
'catch-all' message like ICH408I. The meaning of the message implies that the 
job step is trying to traverse a unix library but it certainly does not appear 
that the names refer to a unix directory.I am not so much looking for a 
solution to they users' problem, more I am looking for advice on where to look 
to understand these messages. I have seen similar messages before, but the file 
or directory in question have always been fairly obvious in the message 
itself.Any advice ?Phil 
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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-17 Thread Kirk Wolf

o  Java's float and double primitives are (ISO) binary floating point, but
has the java.math.BigDecimal class, which is a decimal floating point
representation ( n * 10**m, where n is arbitrary length integer, m is a 32
bit integer).   The BigDecimal class can be used to represent any zoned or
packed data without loss of precision.

o  Recent versions of the JZOS toolkit (on alphaWorks, SDK 6.0, or soon on
SDK 5) include type converter classes (com.ibm.jzos.fields package) that
convert Cobol datatypes to Java values.  BTW: These classes are pure Java
code and don't rely on z/OS apis.

o  The RecordClassGenerator class (available in the alphaWorks version of
JZOS) can be used to read the ADATA output from the High Level Assembler or
Enterprise Cobol Compiler and generate Java classes which use the above
converters to map DSECTS or Cobol copy books into Java classes.  Samples are
included which show how SMF 83 DSECTS are automatically mapped into Java
classes.

For example, the following JCL generates a Java class which maps the base
part of the SMF 83 record:

//ASSEMBLE EXEC ASMAC,PARM='ADATA,LIST,NOTERM,NODECK,NOOBJECT'
//C.SYSIN DD *
  IFASMFR 83
  END
//C.SYSADATA DD DSN=ADATA,DISP=(NEW,PASS),
//   SPACE=(CYL,(3,1))
//*
//JAVA EXEC PROC=EXJZOSVM,VERSION='50'
//MAINARGS DD *
com.ibm.jzos.recordgen.asm.RecordClassGenerator
  section=SMFRCD83
  bufoffset=false
  package=com.ibm.jzos.sample.fields
  class=Smf83BaseRecord
//SYSADATA DD DSN=ADATA,DISP=(OLD,DELETE)
//STDOUT DD PATH='/home/user/Smf83BaseRecord.java',
//  PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT),
//  PATHMODE=SIRWXU
//STDENV DD *
...
//

For the JZOS alphaWorks downloads, see:
http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/zosjavabatchtk

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Tom Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 With reference modification available, the only things that are
 awkward in COBOL are bit switches and the 1 byte binary fields.  I
 have written usage programs that parse the SMF 14/15, 30 and 64
 records.  If IBM would just implement the data types in the 2002
 standard including the new floating point usages as IEEE, COBOL the
 above caveats would go away and COBOL would play nicer with JAVA.
 COMP-1 and COMP-2 could be retained for hex floating point so a single
 COBOL program could have both types of floating point.  YES there is a
 SHARE requirement for this.

 Java does not have Decimal Floating Point yet, and COBOL already plays
 very nicely with automatic conversion from Java float to COBOL float
 and back again with direct calls.  In any case, it is off topic, there
 is no Decimal Floating Point data in SMF records that I know of.

 Cheers,
 TomR   COBOL is the Language of the Future! 

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:57:39 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

Paul Gilmartin wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:27:18 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

 Keep in mind that the TOD clock represents GMT (or UTC). Local time is
 calculated by adjusting GMT by CVTLDTO and CVTLSO. If the TOD drifts by
 a second or more, you can fix local time with a compensating adjustment
 to the time zone offset. See SET TIMEZONE= command.

 Gaah!  Since Good Practice dictates that critical timestamps
 be kept in UTC (or GMT) your suggestion more conceals the problem
 of drift than fixes it.

The whole point of using UTC (or GMT) time stamps is to avoid issues
when the time zone offset is changed. For these logging applications,
local time is irrelevant.

You seem to be saying that for those logging applications
the time stamp is a somewhat arbitrary parameter, increasing
monotonically, but whose offset and drift from true GMT
don't diminish its value.

A point of using UTC time stamps is correlating logs from
the z (e.g.) with logs from other systems in the enterprise,
possibly in different time zones.  If the OP's requirement
includes agreement between UTC on the z and UTC on the
other systems, fudging the local time offset fails to satisfy
it.

(I have long wondered whether correct UTC could be obtained
by fudging CVTLSO.  I have not heard of this being done.)

 How will this affect the time reported by z/OS Unix programs which
 use time() to get UTC and strftime() to get civil time?  How will
 this affect Java applications?

I don't know how z/OS UNIX programs compute local time. If they use a
technique that does not rely on CVTLDTO and CVTLSO, they are already
out-of-sync with the rest of the system.

POSIX defines UTC as primitive, and defines a relationship
from UTC to any other TZ (which can be chosen by the
individual user.)  If the offset from UTC to any of those
zones is different from the POSIX specification, (perhaps
by an arbitrary value in CVTLDTO), the system is out of
sync with the rest of the industry.

What industry-wide standard specifies reliance on CVTLDTO
and CVTLSO?

-- gil

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insane request: force load module to RMODE(24) AMODE(24)

2008-06-17 Thread Bill Klein

I just wanted to CORRECT the erroneous statement that I made below.

If an Enterprise COBOL program is statically link-edited with an AMODE(24)
program, it will of course be marked as AMODE(24) - and will work that
way.

It still is NOT what I would recommend in this situation, but I did want to
correct what I said before others worried about it.

Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 There is ABSOLUTELY no way that you will get an Enterprise COBOL CICS
 program to work if it is marked as AMODE(24).  All the IGY and CEE
 routines that it will need to run will have problems.  You could get an
 RMODE program, but that isn't what you are asking for.
 
 If the programmer wants to force RMODE(24), then use the
   PROCESS RMODE(24)
 statement as the first line of the source code.  This should
 
 This should work unless your compiler was installed with NOALLOWCBL 
 
 How does the COBOL program access the HLASM program (or vice versa), EXEC
 CICS LINK? CALL literal or CALL identifier.  Depending on the type of
ILC
 has the responsible programmer read what IBM has to say about these.
 
 McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  We have a problem. We have a very old CICS application which is written
  in HLASM and OS/VS COBOL 2.4. We want to convert the COBOL to Enterprise
  COBOL. We have having many problems due mainly to lack of knowledge
  about the code base. The programmer doing this is convinced that a/the
  major problem is that Enterprise COBOL links as AMODE(31). He wants to
  force the load module to AMODE(24). The only way that I can see to do
  this is via the AMODE(24) parm in the Binder. However, we use CA-Endevor
  for our program compiles and links. This means that we need a separate
  Endevor processor which invokes the binder with the AMODE(24) parm. Any
  ideas about another way to do this which would not require a new Endevor
  processor? I don't know a lot about Endevor, but I don't see a way to
  use the Binder's MODE command. And I don't know if this would be easier
  to implement in Endevor than the PARM.
  
  P.S. I am not as convinced as the programmer that the problems he is
  encountering are due to the AMODE. But he is insistant and has the
  political backing to force the issue. The only way to prove otherwise to
  allow him to do his work in AMODE(24) and see if he still has the same
  problems. He has already done a lot of figure out this for me type
  requests to Tech Services.
  
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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question