Re: rexx to get storgrp

2009-02-13 Thread Michael Cleary
Greetings,

In REXX with the correct security in place, the following can be used to issue 
MVS commands and access the results of the command:

"CONSPROF SOLDISPLAY(NO) SOLNUM(999) UNSOLDISPLAY(NO) UNSOLNUM
(999)" 
"CONSOLE  ACTIVATE CART(CARTID)" 
"CONSOLE  SYSCMD("mvscmd" ) CART(CARTID)"
x = GETMSG('msg.','SOL','CARTID',,60)
"CONSOLE  DEACTIVATE"

The results of the MVS command are now in the msg. stem 
variable.   

To get the storage group of a specific volume:
D SMS,VOL(xx)

To get all of the volumes in a specific storage group:

D SMS,SG(),LISTVOL

I hope that this helps.

Cheers...

Michael

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Re: SMS Tape volumes

2009-02-13 Thread Russell Witt
Mike,

As Lizette indicated, you can use CTSSYNC. Normally, it would be used with a
parm of SYNC (to sync CA-1 and the robot), but that will not work well in
this situation. Here, I would suggest you use CTSSYNC with a parm of SCRATCH
to set the status to SCRATCH even if the tape is already in scratch status.
This should reset the "REJ BY TAPE MGT SYS" flag as well.

Of course, the question of WHY was it rejected by CA-1 in the first place
still needs to be addressed. If it was because the volumes had been defined
to a subpool; no problem. If the problem was the DSN17 didn't match the HDR1
DSN field; then as Lizette indicated the DSN17 field in the TMC should be
reset to hexzeros as well (to prevent any further NOT-SCRATCH-28 rejects).
Of course, it might also be a good idea to find out WHY the tape had been
used for output processing without CA-1 knowing about it to begin with (if a
NOT-SCRATCH-28 condition was the problem to start with).

Reseting back to scratch if CA-1 says it is scratch is fine. However, I
would also want to find out why CA-1 rejected it in the first place.

Russell Witt
CA 1 Level-2 Support Manager

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Subject: SMS Tape volumes


Hello all, I have a question. Could someone point me to the sms manual
that would allow me to run ISMF commands in batch form. I have a lot of
VTS scratch tapes that have the REJ BY TAP MGT SYS  if you alter it to
scratch status the error goes away.  In other words altering a scratch
to a scratch. CA1 shows  it in scratch status, but ISMF has it in the
REJ BY TAP MGT SYS. There are so many that running a batch job to do
these tapes would be better and faster than using the ISMF panel. Any
pointers to a manual would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Re: SMS Tape volumes

2009-02-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
I run into this occasionally.  You actually have to do two steps.

In ISMF 2.3 pull up the tapes ond change to SCRATCH to SCRATCH.

In CA1 for the VOLSERs in error -  run a TMSAUDIT, then run a TMSUPDTE and
change the DSN, DSN17, NEXTVOL, to HEXZEROS

If you do not do both, then they still have the error.

I am not sure if NAVIQUEST will do the scratch status in batch.  But that is
what you would run for ISMF in batch.

If you are not on CA1 V11.5 SP3 or higher - you might want to get there.  CA
has pointed me to a PTF at that level that helps with this issue.

Lizette



> 
> Hello all, I have a question. Could someone point me to the sms manual
> that would allow me to run ISMF commands in batch form. I have a lot of
> VTS scratch tapes that have the REJ BY TAP MGT SYS  if you alter it to
> scratch status the error goes away.  In other words altering a scratch
> to a scratch. CA1 shows  it in scratch status, but ISMF has it in the
> REJ BY TAP MGT SYS. There are so many that running a batch job to do
> these tapes would be better and faster than using the ISMF panel. Any
> pointers to a manual would be great. Thanks in advance.
> 

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SMS Tape volumes

2009-02-13 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I have a question. Could someone point me to the sms manual
that would allow me to run ISMF commands in batch form. I have a lot of
VTS scratch tapes that have the REJ BY TAP MGT SYS  if you alter it to
scratch status the error goes away.  In other words altering a scratch
to a scratch. CA1 shows  it in scratch status, but ISMF has it in the
REJ BY TAP MGT SYS. There are so many that running a batch job to do
these tapes would be better and faster than using the ISMF panel. Any
pointers to a manual would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Re: IEC020I from SMP/E

2009-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:18:08 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:

>To the nearest power of 10, how many different ways can you make a
>mistake.  How many of these are you willing to pay for the developer to
>handle?  How many other of your desired updates are you willing to put
>on hold while he does?
>
I don't agree, given the complexity of z/OS data management,
that an I/O error on an input data set is unlikely to the
orders of magnitude you suggest.  And for "the developer to
handle" the condition is merely to employ the intrinsic OS
facilities to provide a lucid report.  For comparison, injecting
similar errors:

In HLASM:

1   
PAGE1
 HIGH LEVEL ASSEMBLER - INTERRUPT AND DIAGNOSTIC DUMP   
 HLASM R5.0  2009/02/13 15.31
0** ASMA999U Assembly terminated - SYNAD Exit taken - Permanent I/O error on 
SYSINdata set
  ,SPPGASM ,ASSEMBLE,JES ,I,SYSIN   ,GET   ,WRONG LEN 
RECRD,**,QSAM


And in IEBGENER:

1DATA SET UTILITY - GENERATE
   PAGE 0001
-IEB352I WARNING: ONE OR MORE OF THE OUTPUT DCB PARMS COPIED FROM INPUT

 IEB351I I/O ERROR ,SPPGGENR,TST001  ,OMVS,*,SYSUT1  ,READ  ,WRONG LEN 
RECRD,00,BSAM S

Whereas:

>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Gilmartin
>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:57 PM
>
>
> 14.25.44 JOB06043  IEC020I 001-4,I70APP  ,APPLY   ,SMPCNTL ,JES
> 14.25.44 JOB06043  IEC020I EROPT IS 'ABE' OR NOT SPECIFIED
>
>
... tells me only that something went wrong and the programmer
chose not to report the error conscientiously.

>This tells me hardly anything about what was wrong.  Would
>a SYNADAF have returned a buffer with more information?

Apparently.  I suspect the HLASM and IEBGENER messages
embed SYNADAF results.

>Can a customer reasonably expect that a developer would
>have coded the SYNADAF and displayed the reply in SMPOUT,
>job log, or elsewhere.  I don't think the right answer is
>that if I make a mistake I should be prepared for an
>inexplicable outcome.

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Re: ADCD Load

2009-02-13 Thread Chuck Arney
Fred, it looks like you need PTF UA37111.  Check out this web page for a
description:

http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.adcd.global.html(readm19w)'#Header
_09

Something to do with more than 64 device in your FLEX config.

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> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:32 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: FW: ADCD Load
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Can anyone tell me what this is all about?  This is a new system and I
> don't recall having this occur when we installed Z/OS 1.7.
> Subsequent to this attempt, the system was laid down on addresses
starting
> at A80 and it still occurs when using A80.  This is an ADCD system on
> a Flex box.
> I Googled IGGN504 and didn't get a hit.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.  Fred Hoffman
> 
>  IGGN504 SPECIFY UNIT FOR CATALOG.Z19.MASTER ON Z9SYS1
> 
> 00,0AC3
> 
> IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;0AC3
> 
> IGGN306I 0AC3, UNIT UNACCEPTABLE, 0004
> 
> IGGN504 SPECIFY UNIT FOR CATALOG.Z19.MASTER ON Z9SYS1

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Re: rexx to get storgrp

2009-02-13 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Unfortunately, unlike storclas which is what I thought you wanted, storgrp is 
not maintained for the dataset.  Once the dataset is allocated, that 
information is discarded.  The storage group is maintained of the volume 
(D SMS,VOL(xx) displays it). You can get the volume using the CSI but I don't 
know how to get the storgrp from the volume using REXX.

-Original Message-
From: Schwarz, Barry A 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:31 PM
To: 'IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu'
Subject: RE: rexx to get storgrp

There is a REXX interface to the Catalog Search Interface described in the 
DFSMS Managing Catalogs manual (SC76-2409-05, Appendix C for my z/OS 1.8 
system).  A sample, IGGCSIRX, should be is SYS1.SAMPLIB.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Koenigs [mailto:koenigs@principal.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: rexx to get storgrp

Does anyone have a rexx for which you could input a dataset or volume and it 
would spit out the sms storgrp it is in?

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FW: ADCD Load

2009-02-13 Thread Fred Hoffman
Hi Folks,
 
Can anyone tell me what this is all about?  This is a new system and I don't 
recall having this occur when we installed Z/OS 1.7.
Subsequent to this attempt, the system was laid down on addresses starting at 
A80 and it still occurs when using A80.  This is an ADCD system on
a Flex box.  
I Googled IGGN504 and didn't get a hit.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thanks.  Fred Hoffman
 
 IGGN504 SPECIFY UNIT FOR CATALOG.Z19.MASTER ON Z9SYS1

00,0AC3

IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;0AC3

IGGN306I 0AC3, UNIT UNACCEPTABLE, 0004

IGGN504 SPECIFY UNIT FOR CATALOG.Z19.MASTER ON Z9SYS1

 

 

 

[Fred Hoffman]

I have attached the tserver.cfg file

 

When 1.7 is running the console command for the DASD units

D U,,,AC0

---

 SDSF SYSLOG   9580.101 SYS1 SYS1 02/09/2009 0W17822 RESPONSES NOT SHOWN

 COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR  

  RESPONSE=ADCD 
 

   IEE457I 17.13.26 UNIT STATUS 614 
 

   UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE  
 

   0AC0 3390 O Z9RES1 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC1 3390 O Z9RES2 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC2 3390 O Z9RES3 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC3 3390 O Z9SYS1 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC4 3390 O Z9USS1 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC5 3390 O Z9PRD1 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC6 3390 O Z9CIC1 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC7 3390 O Z9DIS1 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC8 3390 O Z9DIS2 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0AC9 3390 O Z9DIS3 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0ACA 3390 O Z9DIS4 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0ACB 3390 O Z9DIS5 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0ACC 3390 O Z9DIS6 PRIV/RSDNT
 

   0ACD 3390 O EFS113 PRIV/RSDNT
 

 

 

My IPL statement is:

 

ipl ac0 0ac3cs

 

 

 

 

My IPLPARMS content:

 

BROWSESYS1.IPLPARM(LOADCS)   Line  Col 001 080 

  Command ===>  Scroll ===> 
PAGE 

* Top of Data **

IODF 99 SYS1

SYSCAT   Z9SYS1113CCATALOG.Z19.MASTER   

SYSPARM  CS 

IEASYM   00 

PARMLIB  USER.PARMLIB Z9SYS1

PARMLIB  ADCD.Z19.PARMLIB Z9RES1

PARMLIB  SYS1.PARMLIB Z9RES1

NUCLEUS  1  

SYSPLEX  ADCDPL 

 

Some datasets listed for Z9SYS1 showing the master catalog:

DSLIST - Data Sets on volume Z9SYS1Row 1 of 63 

  Command ===>  Scroll ===> CSR 
 


 

 Command - Enter "/" to select action  Message   Volume 

 ---

  CATALOG.Z19.MASTER Z9SYS1 

  CATALOG.Z19.MASTER.CATINDEXZ9SYS1 

  DB2.DATA   Z9SYS1 

  IBMUSER.ISPF.ISPPROF   Z9SYS1 

  IBMUSER.SRCHFOR.LIST   Z9SYS1 

  ISF.HASPINDX   Z9SYS1 

  IXGLOGR.ATR.ADCDPL.ARCHIVE.A000.DATA   Z9SYS1 

  IXGLOGR.ATR.ADCDPL.DELAYED.UR.A000.DATAZ9SYS1 

  IXGLOGR.ATR.ADCDPL.MAIN.UR.A000.DATA   Z9SYS1 

  IXGLOGR.ATR.ADCDPL.RESTART.A000.DATA   Z9SYS1 

  IXGLOGR.ATR.ADCDPL.RM.DATA.A000.DATA   Z9SYS1 

  IXGLOGR.ATR.ADCDPL.RM.METADATA.A000.D  Z9SYS1 

  NFS.CNTL

Re: rexx to get storgrp

2009-02-13 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
There is a REXX interface to the Catalog Search Interface described in
the DFSMS Managing Catalogs manual (SC76-2409-05, Appendix C for my z/OS
1.8 system).  A sample, IGGCSIRX, should be is SYS1.SAMPLIB.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Koenigs [mailto:koenigs@principal.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: rexx to get storgrp

Does anyone have a rexx for which you could input a dataset or volume
and it 
would spit out the sms storgrp it is in?

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Re: IEC020I from SMP/E

2009-02-13 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
To the nearest power of 10, how many different ways can you make a
mistake.  How many of these are you willing to pay for the developer to
handle?  How many other of your desired updates are you willing to put
on hold while he does?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gilmartin 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: IEC020I from SMP/E

I know what I did wrong.  I inadvertently (well, I was testing
a change to an ISPF edit macro) submitted a job with an SMP/E
APPLY step with an instream SMPCNTL with RECFM=VB.  It's easy
to suspect that SMP/E contains a DCB with a hardcoded RECFM=FB.



This tells me hardly anything about what was wrong.  Would
a SYNADAF have returned a buffer with more information?
Can a customer reasonably expect that a developer would
have coded the SYNADAF and displayed the reply in SMPOUT,
job log, or elsewhere.  I don't think the right answer is
that if I make a mistake I should be prepared for an
inexplicable outcome.

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Question on SDSF/JES2

2009-02-13 Thread Thompson, Steve
I have run into a situation. I think I know what caused it, but I'm just
not using the right keyword to find it (in my SDSF manual).

I have a JOB that is running, and in the STatus display (or DA), the
STATUS field has PROT for this JOB.

This means that I can't issue a Cancel (SDSF) for it. AND on the DA
panel, it won't let me use "Y" (which generates an MVS STOP command).

How do I remove "PROT" from its status? OR, where is this documented?

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: rexx to get storgrp

2009-02-13 Thread Greg Shirey
You need to add SMSINFO to get the SMS information returned (X =
"LISTDSI(DSN) SMSINFO").  But this doesn't give you the Storgrp.

Operator command D SMS,VOLUME(volser) will return the Storgrp name for
"volser", but I couldn't tell you how to get the response into a REXX. 
 
Greg 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: rexx to get storgrp

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:13:14 -0600, Jon Koenigs wrote:

>Does anyone have a rexx for which you could input a dataset or volume
and it
>would spit out the sms storgrp it is in?
>
>Thanks!
>Jon
>

LISTDSI will return SMS information in:

SYSDSSMS
SYSDATACLASS
SYSSTORCLASS
SYSMGMTCLASS

I believe the syntax is:

LISTDSI('filename')

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IEC020I from SMP/E

2009-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I know what I did wrong.  I inadvertently (well, I was testing
a change to an ISPF edit macro) submitted a job with an SMP/E
APPLY step with an instream SMPCNTL with RECFM=VB.  It's easy
to suspect that SMP/E contains a DCB with a hardcoded RECFM=FB.

The result:

 SDSF OUTPUT DISPLAY I70APP   JOB06043  DSID 2 LINE 18  COLUMNS 01- 80
 COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR
 14.25.44 JOB06043  IEC020I 001-4,I70APP  ,APPLY   ,SMPCNTL ,JES
 14.25.44 JOB06043  IEC020I EROPT IS 'ABE' OR NOT SPECIFIED
 14.25.44 JOB06043  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  514
514 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=001
514  TIME=14.25.44  SEQ=00341  CPU=  ASID=0030
514  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  078D1000   00961A1C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
514NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
514NAME=UNKNOWN
514DATA AT PSW  00961A16 - 00181610  0A0D1851  A7C80048
514AR/GR 0: C41C5D16/8000   1: /80001000
514  2: /00961EB0   3: /6168
514  4: /60A0   5: /005CA014
514  6: /005FF048   7: /00961638
514  8: /000672CC   9: /611C
514  A: /005C9FE8   B: /4096165E
514  C: /005D8030   D: /6228
514  E: /   F: /
514  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
 14.25.44 JOB06043  IEF450I I70APP APPLY - ABEND=S001 U REASON=  515
515 TIME=14.25.44
 14.25.44 JOB06043  -APPLY *S001212144.00.00 .0

This tells me hardly anything about what was wrong.  Would
a SYNADAF have returned a buffer with more information?
Can a customer reasonably expect that a developer would
have coded the SYNADAF and displayed the reply in SMPOUT,
job log, or elsewhere.  I don't think the right answer is
that if I make a mistake I should be prepared for an
inexplicable outcome.

-- gil

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Re: rexx to get storgrp

2009-02-13 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:13:14 -0600, Jon Koenigs wrote:

>Does anyone have a rexx for which you could input a dataset or volume and it
>would spit out the sms storgrp it is in?
>
>Thanks!
>Jon
>

LISTDSI will return SMS information in:

SYSDSSMS
SYSDATACLASS
SYSSTORCLASS
SYSMGMTCLASS

I believe the syntax is:

LISTDSI('filename')

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rexx to get storgrp

2009-02-13 Thread Jon Koenigs
Does anyone have a rexx for which you could input a dataset or volume and it 
would spit out the sms storgrp it is in?

Thanks!
Jon

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Re: z/OS 1.7 extended support (was Re: zPCR and z/OS 1.7)

2009-02-13 Thread Bob Shannon
>IOW, were there any undocumented APARs/PTFs you had to apply that aren't >GA?

IIRC, if IBM creates a PTF for you, under terms of the extended service 
agreement you can't disclose what it is even to someone who also has the 
extended service agreement.

Bob Shannon

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Re: z/OS 1.7 extended support (was Re: zPCR and z/OS 1.7)

2009-02-13 Thread Roger Mihay
Mark,

Our management signed up for it, just for "piece of mind".  We didn't get
anything special or undocumented.  Oh, well what is a few bucks among
friends?  :-)


On 2/13/09, Mark Zelden  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:49:02 -0500, Chris Burgess
>  wrote:
>
> >I believe if you check with IBM that the z/10 will only support z/OS 1.7
> under an extended service agreement. z/OS 1.7 should've been EOL back in
> September.
> >
>
> So has anyone actually signed up for this support?  Other than paying IBM,
> what did it give you?  IOW, were there any undocumented APARs/PTFs you
> had to apply that aren't GA? Or is it just "peace of mind" only in case
> something
> pops up?
>
> Mark
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Re: zPCR and z/OS 1.7

2009-02-13 Thread Roger Mihay
Tom,

We just installed a z10BC-N03 and currently running z/OS1.7 (moving to 1.9
next month) without any probems.  We did apply all the z10 compatiably PTFs
although I don't think they are required as we ran at DR without any coming
from a z800.

Roger


On 2/13/09, Kelman, Tom  wrote:
>
> We are currently running a z9BC with z/OS 1.7.  We want to do a study on
> upgrading to a z10BC still with z/OS 1.7 initially.  We were in the
> process of installing z/OS 1.9 last year and ran into a problem with a
> down level VTS we had.  We've now upgraded the VTS and are in the
> process of converting all the tapes from the old to the new system.
> Once that gets completed we'll be install z/OS 1.9.  However, the
> upgrade to the z10BC might take place before then.  I have a couple of
> questions the esteemed experts on this board can probably answer.
>
>
>
> 1.  I just downloaded version C5.2b of zPCR so I can get the tables for
> the z10 processors.  However, it doesn't look like there is anyway to
> analyze a system that is running z/OS 1.7.  Under the "Single-Image
> Capacity" tab there is z/OS 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, and 1.9, but it skips z/OS
> 1.7.  What's with that?
>
>
>
> 2.  Will z/OS 1.7 run on the z10BC processor?  I don't feel that we've
> received a good answer concerning that from our IBM (actually Sirius)
> rep.  The answer is "sort of".
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z/OS 1.7 extended support (was Re: zPCR and z/OS 1.7)

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:49:02 -0500, Chris Burgess
 wrote:

>I believe if you check with IBM that the z/10 will only support z/OS 1.7
under an extended service agreement. z/OS 1.7 should've been EOL back in
September.
>

So has anyone actually signed up for this support?  Other than paying IBM, 
what did it give you?  IOW, were there any undocumented APARs/PTFs you
had to apply that aren't GA? Or is it just "peace of mind" only in case
something
pops up?

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Re: zPCR and z/OS 1.7

2009-02-13 Thread Chris Burgess
I believe if you check with IBM that the z/10 will only support z/OS 1.7 under 
an extended service agreement. z/OS 1.7 should've been EOL back in September. 


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Subject: zPCR and z/OS 1.7

We are currently running a z9BC with z/OS 1.7.  We want to do a study on
upgrading to a z10BC still with z/OS 1.7 initially.  We were in the
process of installing z/OS 1.9 last year and ran into a problem with a
down level VTS we had.  We've now upgraded the VTS and are in the
process of converting all the tapes from the old to the new system.
Once that gets completed we'll be install z/OS 1.9.  However, the
upgrade to the z10BC might take place before then.  I have a couple of
questions the esteemed experts on this board can probably answer.

 

1.  I just downloaded version C5.2b of zPCR so I can get the tables for
the z10 processors.  However, it doesn't look like there is anyway to
analyze a system that is running z/OS 1.7.  Under the "Single-Image
Capacity" tab there is z/OS 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, and 1.9, but it skips z/OS
1.7.  What's with that?

 

2.  Will z/OS 1.7 run on the z10BC processor?  I don't feel that we've
received a good answer concerning that from our IBM (actually Sirius)
rep.  The answer is "sort of".

 

Tom Kelman

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zPCR and z/OS 1.7

2009-02-13 Thread Kelman, Tom
We are currently running a z9BC with z/OS 1.7.  We want to do a study on
upgrading to a z10BC still with z/OS 1.7 initially.  We were in the
process of installing z/OS 1.9 last year and ran into a problem with a
down level VTS we had.  We've now upgraded the VTS and are in the
process of converting all the tapes from the old to the new system.
Once that gets completed we'll be install z/OS 1.9.  However, the
upgrade to the z10BC might take place before then.  I have a couple of
questions the esteemed experts on this board can probably answer.

 

1.  I just downloaded version C5.2b of zPCR so I can get the tables for
the z10 processors.  However, it doesn't look like there is anyway to
analyze a system that is running z/OS 1.7.  Under the "Single-Image
Capacity" tab there is z/OS 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, and 1.9, but it skips z/OS
1.7.  What's with that?

 

2.  Will z/OS 1.7 run on the z10BC processor?  I don't feel that we've
received a good answer concerning that from our IBM (actually Sirius)
rep.  The answer is "sort of".

 

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Commerce Bank of Kansas City

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Re: SHARE in Denver this August!

2009-02-13 Thread Roland Schiradin
You're welcome Ed. CU at Denver I promise. Don't tell the cics project :-)

Roland


>Roland Schiradin wrote:
>> Ed ask me last year about a presentation for freeware tools. I deny this for
>> march but will working on a presentation about SHOWzOS and COBANAL.
>>
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>Consider yourself scheduled!
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Re: SHARE in Denver this August!

2009-02-13 Thread Edward Jaffe

Roland Schiradin wrote:
Ed ask me last year about a presentation for freeware tools. I deny this for 
march but will working on a presentation about SHOWzOS and COBANAL.
  


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Re: Renaming z/OS packs

2009-02-13 Thread Scott Rowe
Well said Mark.

>>> Mark Zelden  2/12/2009 7:50 PM >>>
Ted, don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to post a lot of
misinformation based on your memory (or lack of) or something you
did a long time ago that is just  not correct.  You always apologize
for your mistakes, but it doesn't benefit the readers nor the archives
when questions that have "correct" responses  (as opposed to
opinion / general discussion) get answers that could lead someone
down the wrong path.  If you really aren't sure or can't remember, 
maybe it would be better to wait a while before responding to see what 
someone else may have to write.


Mark


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Re: SHARE in Denver this August!

2009-02-13 Thread Roland Schiradin
Ed ask me last year about a presentation for freeware tools. I deny this for 
march but will working on a presentation about SHOWzOS and COBANAL.

Of course it's not a one-hour presentation and I believe the CICS project will 
also ask. Will see what is possible

Unfortunally my cousin no longer lives in Colorado sprins :-(

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>> my current plan is to attend SHARE in Denver.
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>> Regards
>> Roland
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>Cool! If it works out for both of us, I'll see you there.
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Re: Couple DS

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Steely
Thanks - just was making it too difficult 

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For starters:

D XCF,COUPLE

Claude 

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Subject: Couple DS

We are z/OS V1R9. How can I displayed the  SYSPLEX (XCF) ds defined in
the COUPLE00 parmlib member. I thought I could use the IXCMIAPU utility,
 
I would like to determine what values it was defined with. 
 
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Re: Couple DS

2009-02-13 Thread Richbourg, Claude
For starters:

D XCF,COUPLE

Claude 

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I would like to determine what values it was defined with. 
 
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Couple DS

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R9. How can I displayed the  SYSPLEX (XCF) ds defined in
the COUPLE00 parmlib member. I thought I could use the IXCMIAPU utility,
 
I would like to determine what values it was defined with. 
 
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Re: VTAMlst

2009-02-13 Thread Ron Wells
Thanks Ed...

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Re: z10 toleration maintenance

2009-02-13 Thread Staller, Allan

Subject: Re: z10 toleration maintenance

We have six zos 1.7 systems three on a z890 and three on a z9 we have
applied the toleration for the z10 on the z890 systens since we will be
replacing the z890 with the z10 all six
Systems are in a sysplex do we have to apply the z10 maintenance onto
the z9 zos 1.7 systems


It is unlikely to be *NECESSARY* to apply the z10 maint to the z/OS 1.7
systems. IMO, it is highly desirable to do so! 

One of the design points for a parallel sysplex was to allow for just
that situation, but what if some PHB decides to move the LPARs around? 

One of the rules I have always followed in my multi-system career, is
that everything should be the same, except where required to be
different.

Another rule I have followed is to routinely apply device support and
toleration/fallback maintenance as it becomes available (even if I don't
plan to go to that release). When the new box (or OS) rolls in, there is
nothing to do except load and go!

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Re: VTAMlst

2009-02-13 Thread Edward Jaffe

Ron Wells wrote:

Doing cleanup and getting rid of Majnode definitions..
Sense I am a NetworkNode / APPN defined in all LPAR's and using EE across 
all LPAR's -are the old PATH /CDRM definitions needed anymore?
  


We stopped using PATH and CDRM when we switched to APPN. Removed them 
from ATCCONxx and nobody complained.


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Re: Couple Datasets

2009-02-13 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:43:56, Mark Zelden  
wrote:

>Art,
>
>My comment was just in regards to having a system / sysplex without
>a WLM couple data set, not in reference to the original problem.   I thought
>in one of your follow up posts you were implying that it could only be
>done on a system running in XCFLOCAL mode.
>
>Cheers,

Mark,

I see it now... it didn't come out right.  Good discussion came of it though, 
and I learned.  What I meant to say was WLM CDS' prereq XCF CDS', but if 
WLM works sans CDS', then XCFLOCAL would work for a single system.  The 
things we take for granted... perhaps a real drill (in the sandbox) is in order.

Next one at SCIDS is on me, if we both make it out to Denver.

Art

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Re: VTAMlst

2009-02-13 Thread Ron Wells
Doing cleanup and getting rid of Majnode definitions..
Sense I am a NetworkNode / APPN defined in all LPAR's and using EE across 
all LPAR's -are the old PATH /CDRM definitions needed anymore?

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Re: SHARE in Denver this August!

2009-02-13 Thread Steve Comstock

Roland Schiradin wrote:
Hi Steve, 

my current plan is to attend SHARE in Denver. 


Regards
Roland


Cool! If it works out for both of us, I'll see you there.
Or, rather, here. Well, you know. :-)


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Marilyn Allmond/Gaithersburg/IBM is on vacation.

2009-02-13 Thread Marilyn Allmond
I will be out of the office starting  02/12/2009 and will not return until
02/23/2009.

Please search ATS Techdocs website for information related to crypto FIRST
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Re: Question about how to use BSAM to access very large files

2009-02-13 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
>Ted,  POINT uses relative track addressing. Looks like you are using 
>absolute.
>FIND is for locating member of a library.
>NOTE will return the relative address within you data set.
>BLOCKTOKENSIZE=LARGE provides the support you need for NOTE/POINT 
>within a larger format data set.

I missed the original question, so please ignore it this has been
said before or is not relevant.

We're using NOTE/POINT heavily an old midlware piece of code. We
had to make sure the datasets we're to handle are EXTENDED format
datasets. Otherwise it would not work wit multi-volume datasets.

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Re: Expired SHARE ID (Was: Macro-generated BAL/Rs)

2009-02-13 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Patrick O'Keefe wrote:

>
> Well, on the SHARE website under "Trial Membership" is says
> "If your company is not a SHARE member and you would like access to
> the SHARE User Event Proceedings, please contact SHARE
> Headquarters at (888)574-2735 for temporary access."
>
> I know that a trial membership is not what you are after, but it might
> be worth looking into.
>
> Pat O'Keefe
>
>
>
>
Thanks Patrick, I'll look into that.

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