Re: Authenticate with RACF from Web App

2009-07-17 Thread Thakur, Dinesh Babulal
It is possible with MQSeries if application is using this product. 

The midrange WAS/Web page can connect to MQ on Z/OS and put a request
message. This message has a extra header i.e. MQCIH which has password
for userid and also has information regarding CICS transaction or
program to link after successful authentication. 
Setup this MQ  queue to trigger CKBR transaction on first message which
will actually authenticates userid and password in RACF before
proceeding further. CKBR interface also communicate back to the
requestor if the userid/password is incorrect. 
There are different authentication settings in CKBR like to verify a
password or not or to verify a password for every UOW. etc. 

Dinesh Thakur
Regional DB/MQ Integration  


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Subject: Authenticate with RACF from Web App

Thanks in advance for all/any advice, direction, samples, expertise
related to 
my question.  I was approached by one of our distributed application
folks with 
a request that I believe should be very possible to accommodate based on
my 
experiences with zOS system sftwr/hdwr, WAS, etc.   
 
The app is web-based running on non-zOS platform.  They would likebe
able to 
connect to the mainframe to authenticate a RACF ID/password; if the ID
and 
password are OK, continue with the app (possibly return a RC=0 or any 
other OK);  if ID unknown, pswd wrong, pswd revoked or expired,
provide a 
non-zero return code or not OK msg with explicit reason, even routing
user 
to a web page where they can update an expiring password, correct an
invalid 
password.  I'm hoping to find something that is *easy* and *cheap* to 
implement (free being the key word), and generic enough to be used by
any 
subsequent apps.  I figure there has to be an easy way to do this but I
don't 
know what that way is, whether a direct call to RACF or USS, some kind
of 
non-html call to the IBM HTTP server, WebSphereAS, MQ ... something
simple 
and free. 
 
Thank you,
Bob Bonhard/UPS I.S.

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Edward Jaffe

Richard Peurifoy wrote:

IBM probably doesn't care if a vendor runs their own code on
zXXP's, that won't affect IBM's software charging, though it
may sell more zXXP engines, and less CP engines.

But they and other vendors probably do care if someone runs code
they had not intended to run on a zXXP. This would affect software
revenue.


IBM software pricing terms are careful to use the term eligible 
workloads. This deliberate use of the language suggests that their 
pricing terms might *not* apply to zIIPs and zAAPs running anything 
other than IBM-specified eligible workloads. Time will tell...


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Re: Authenticate with RACF from Web App

2009-07-17 Thread Denis Gäbler
 Hi,

the easiest approach I have ever seen works like this:

The web server on distributed redirects (easy to implement in distributed 
http.conf) to the HTTP Server on z/OS (this is the free one, not WebSphere 
Application Server).
I recall the ITSO wrote a simple CGI program/Exit, which allows to autenticate 
with RACF and even change the RACF password, if it is expired. On successful 
authentication the z/OS HTTP Server can redirect back to the distributed web 
server and it can proceed working with the request.

Nevertheless there are some additonal considerations, e.g. what data to send 
with the redirect (e.g. generated 128 byte hex token send to z/OS and back and 
of course by using SSL/HTTPS) in order to make sure that this authentication 
cannot be bypassed. But this is not rocket sience and the CGI programs for HTTP 
Server on z/OS can be REXX, so any additional logic would be easy to implement.

Denis.


 


 

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Subject: Authenticate with RACF from Web App










Thanks in advance for all/any advice, direction, samples, expertise related to 
my question.  I was approached by one of our distributed application folks with 
a request that I believe should be very possible to accommodate based on my 
experiences with zOS system sftwr/hdwr, WAS, etc.   
 
The app is web-based running on non-zOS platform.  They would likebe able to 
connect to the mainframe to authenticate a RACF ID/password; if the ID and 
password are OK, continue with the app (possibly return a RC=0 or any 
other OK);  if ID unknown, pswd wrong, pswd revoked or expired, provide a 
non-zero return code or not OK msg with explicit reason, even routing user 
to a web page where they can update an expiring password, correct an invalid 
password.  I'm hoping to find something that is *easy* and *cheap* to 
implement (free being the key word), and generic enough to be used by any 
subsequent apps.  I figure there has to be an easy way to do this but I don't 
know what that way is, whether a direct call to RACF or USS, some kind of 
non-html call to the IBM HTTP server, WebSphereAS, MQ ... something simple 
and free. 
 
Thank you,
Bob Bonhard/UPS I.S.

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Vikesh Bhoola
Bob, thanks for confirmation regarding the MVS (cmsmvs) build of unzip. 
I did see the same error when executing the MVS version in USS, but was 
wondering if it perhaps was the syntax.

I managed to compiled the unix version which works well
Just a change in the README.zOS:
gmake -f unix/Makefile ZOS
results in: 
gmake: *** No rule to make target `ZOS'.  Stop.
Should be gmake -f unix/Makefile zos


Tried piping using COZBATCH, to read/write to MVS datasets but I don't get the 
DD://IN part right.

//INFOZIP  EXEC PGM=COZBATCH   
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=hlq.COZ130.LOADLIB
//IN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=userid.INPUT.ZIP  
//OUT  DD DISP=(,CATLG),DSN=userid.OUTPUT.NEW,
//   SPACE=(TRK,(7500,15000),RLSE),RECFM=FB,LRECL=171,BLKSIZE=0
//STDOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//STDINDD  *  
fromdsn -b //DD:IN   | 
   unzip -p - |
   todsn -s ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 //DD:OUT

I get the unzip usage message  this :
todsn(DD:OUT)ÝE¨: error: no input data available 
CEE5213S The signal SIGPIPE was received.
CoZBatchÝI¨: returning rc=exitcode=103   


This STDIN works, but means the input must be USS file :
   unzip -p /tmp/INPUT.zip |  
   todsn -s ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 //DD:OUT 

Any ideas ?

 I'll let you know as soon I have time to figure out what the latest problem 
 is. I'm really sorry this is taking so long. Thanks for your input.

Bob, no worries for unzip, the real need was ZIP which is resolved thanks to 
you.
I'm just testing to verify it works, should its requirement later arise.


Kind Regards,
Vikesh Bhoola
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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Denis Gäbler
 Thats true, but recent lawsuits in the distributed area had no luck forcing 
users to run only specific work on bought (owned) hardware, e.g. you can do 
number crunching on graphic chips, which were initially only intended for 
graphics work.
It would be interesting to see, if there is any way to force somebody to only 
use certified software on specific owned hardware?
Another example that comes into mind is the uncertified use of OpenWRT on any 
router (DSL/Wireless) in the world. Linksys/Cisco has no way of preventing me 
from running this linux distribution on my own bought or rented router and make 
use of whatever the chips on the hardware may provide.


 
But, time will tell.

Denis.


 

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 IBM software pricing terms are careful to use the term eligible 
workloads. This deliberate use of the language suggests that their 
pricing terms might *not* apply to zIIPs and zAAPs running anything 
other than IBM-specified eligible workloads. Time will tell...?
?

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Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:33:38 -0700, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

...
Pat:I am not sure I agree , but I think that most USS messages are at best
inscrutable. 

Since I'm one of those that gets anal over this use of USS, I'll object
up front and you can not care starting now.

More importantly, I'm not sure what messages you are referring to. 
The TCP/IP messages you mention below are standard MVS msgs, 
not Unix messages.  (I agree that the Unix messages are indeed
inscrutable.) 


Take TCP as an example most of the messages I had to look up at the time
did not follow the IBM convention as to importance (W,I,E,C) and then they
didn't set the condition code to match the message. 

The IBM convention as to importance (W,I,E,C) does not apply to
console messages.  As far as I know this has always been the case.
For console messages I believe W is for a Wait State message, E is
for an eventual response needed, and I'm not sure the other 2 are
used at all.  To the extent that the convention you refer to exists at
all, I think it is for SYSOUT messages like from compilers, etc. 

I'm hard pressed to think of TCP/IP messages associated with 
condition codes so I assume you mean other USS messages.
But last I knew there were 4 volumes of TCP/IP messages;  there
are a lot of both good and bad messages.

I can't comment on the other messages you are referring to because 
I don't know which they are.
 
Pat O'Keefe

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Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:01:03 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote:

... ideally USS messages are
composed within the installation and so, if they are inscrutable, 
the person to whom to complain should be available with an
in-organisation telephone call - assuming the original author 
hasn't been let go. ...

I have to admit that USS messages cannot be looked up in a 
Messages and Codes manual, cannot (except for the default messages
supplied by IBM) be the subject of PMRs, RCFs, etc.   And they often
ARE inscrutable.   If Ed hadn't added his final disclaimer I would have 
had to agree with him.  :-)

Pat O'Keefe
 

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Re: Article Mainframe Stolen

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:46:40 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote:

...
The proliferation of the PC has resulted in another proliferation: that
of self-proclaimed experts that know next to nothing, but have loud
voices.
...

Oh, come on!  We've existed and proliferated long before PCs!   :-)

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Re: Find the computer error

2009-07-17 Thread Ron Hawkins
Steve,

My tongue was firmly in my cheek.

I would say that it's a good idea not to correct an Australian by telling
him what the UK does. I'll send Crocodile Dundee after ya...

As far as Australia goes the standard is 1,000,000,000,000 equals one
billion. From the discussion of the wiki article there is this gem:

 Australian Standards AS1000 (appendix AA) states that the Engineers are to
use long scale (Billion = Million Million) as outlined in The 9th General
Conference of Weights and Measures (CGPM) in 1948. However, in 1982 they
realised it would be difficult to enforce this and have recommended that
the scientific engineering use be avoided.

Now that's bloody confusing, but as of last year the Australian Macquarie
Dictionary, our equivalent of Oxford and Webster Dictionaries, defined one
billion as 10 to the power of 12. That's the standard, and it's citation
enough for me.


Ron

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 Ron Hawkins wrote:
  Twenty Three Quadrillion? Looks like Twenty Three Thousand Billion to
me.
 
 Well, my understanding is that American English uses terms
 a little differently than the-rest-of-the-world English.
 
 An interesting article on Wikipedia points out that Americans
 generally use the short scale while residents of the UK generally
 use the long scale. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales
 
 The article goes on to point out that in 1974 the government of the
 UK officially abandoned the long scale in favor of the short scale.
 
 In short scale terms, then, we have:
 
 -term-  -sample value- -ISO prefix-
 million 1,000,000  mega-
 billion 1,000,000,000  giga-
 trillion1,000,000,000,000  tera-
 quadrillion 1,000,000,000,000,000  peta-
 quintillion 1,000,000,000,000,000  exa-
 sextillion  1,000,000,000,000,000,000  zetta-
 
 So 23,148,855,308,184,500 would be read as
 
 23 quadrillion, 148 trillion, 855 billion, 308 million,
 184 thousand 500
 
 
 
 
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090715/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_quadrillion_dollar_de
  bi
  t_2
 
  a stunning $23,148,855,308,184,500
 
  Number doesn't seem to be any special hex value.
 
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IECIOSxx - suggested entries

2009-07-17 Thread R.S.

This is follow-on of my EDGINERS problem.
IECIOSxx member was forgot during system migration.
The only problem was with EDGINERS on 3490E-C22 drives (rarely used 
nowadays).

I fixed it by setting
MIH TIME=30:00,DEV=(devnum_addresses)

However I did some RTFM about parameters in the IECIOSxx member.

My question is:
What are typical/suggested/ROT entries in IECIOSxx member?

I know, it depends on the hardware.
In my case: some DASD boxes (various vendors, all made after 2000, 
FICON-attached), 3592, 3590, 3490E.


Any clue?
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Re: IRXANCHR - Number of environments

2009-07-17 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thanks, I'll up it. The last update said it was for Netview at 1.6.
Seeing that we use SA for z/OS 3.2, I'll try your value or maybe 600.

Bob

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I just checked our 1.8 system. We have it set to 500 already, and I
believe 
that was done because SA/390 needed the increase when it got some 
problems a while back (but in 1.8).
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Re: Submit a JCL from within another JCL

2009-07-17 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:40:45 -0500, Parin Gangar paringan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I remember there is some IKJ utility that allows us to do that, but, I can't
quite remember the name.

I think IEBEDIT is the utility you may be thinking about. But as others have 
very well pointed out, there are probably easier and more flexible ways to do 
it.

Cheers,

Jantje.

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Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-17 Thread Errol Van staden
A bit late on this maybe but:

Determine the SU per second of your machine

You can get this with the following REXX code

CVT  = STORAGE(10,4) 
RMCT = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(CVT)+604),4)  
SU   = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(RMCT)+64),4)  
SU   = 1600/C2D(SU)  

For a 301 this would be 21857.9235

1 CPU second is therefor 21857.9235 Service Units

Divide this figure by 48.5 to get MIPS = 450.678835

Check that this correct by consulting Gartner etc and adjust the 48.5 more 
accurately

Use the actual Transaction CPU time to get the percentage of the 450 MIPS 
used E.G .002 secs = .9 MIPS

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Re: Is anyone familiar with a technique for moving these APPN datasets dynamically?

2009-07-17 Thread Chris Mason
Glen

There are a couple of peculiarities about your posts.

1. They appeared in a Google Groups digest and they appear in Google Groups 
but they do *not* appear in the archives of IBM-MAIN. You are presumably 
not using the option to receive e-mails of IBM-MAIN posts - and to initiate 
threads and reply by e-mail - so I suggest you use the archives to post in 
future. You can navigate from the following page:

Archives of IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 
http://alabamamaps.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

2. I see you adopt a very compact technique for posting which incorporates 
the Subject line as an integral part of the post - a mite confusing initially - 
and also since you replied to yourself in order to offer further information - 
somewhat contradicting your subject line, in fact!

-

You are correct that these datasets are those used by VTAM when enabled 
for APPN, specifically when the INITDB start option specifies ALL.

A sort-of answer to your question is that, if you change the INITDB start 
option value from ALL to NONE, the next time you start VTAM, you will find 
that the data sets are no longer allocated to the VTAM address space and 
you will be able to delete them.

You will find the matter discussed in section Checkpointing of the TRS 
database and the directory database in Chapter 13, Network routing of the 
Communications Server SNA Network Implementation Guide.

I assume this doesn't really answer your question since you 
specify dynamically. I assume what you really wanted was to be able to 
delete the data sets while VTAM was active - although why you didn't refer to 
them VTAM data sets originally then also becomes a mystery!

-

I am going to post this through the archives with the Subject line adjusted:

The original post, consolidated is as follows:

quote

Is anyone familiar with a technique for moving these APPC datasets 
dynamically?

  SYS1.DSDBCTRL 
  SYS1.DSDB1 
  SYS1.DSDB2 
  SYS1.TRSDB

APPN checkpoint datasets, I think.

Glen Gasior

/quote

I'm going to copy you on this in case you might otherwise miss it.

Chris Mason

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:42:58 -0400, Denis Gäbler denisgaeb...@netscape.net
wrote:

 Thats true, but recent lawsuits in the distributed area had no luck
forcing users to run only specific work on bought (owned) hardware, e.g. you
can do number crunching on graphic chips, which were initially only intended
for graphics work.
It would be interesting to see, if there is any way to force somebody to
only use certified software on specific owned hardware?
Another example that comes into mind is the uncertified use of OpenWRT on
any router (DSL/Wireless) in the world. Linksys/Cisco has no way of
preventing me from running this linux distribution on my own bought or
rented router and make use of whatever the chips on the hardware may provide.


From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Fri, Jul 17, 2009 9:25 am
Subject: Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME


 IBM software pricing terms are careful to use the term eligible
workloads. This deliberate use of the language suggests that their
pricing terms might *not* apply to zIIPs and zAAPs running anything
other than IBM-specified eligible workloads. Time will tell...?
?

Agree partly
I also am running openWRT or Tomato on my Cisco/Linksys WRT54GS at home and
yes i do not see how I can be stopped.  This is my machine . 
But we are speaking of running IBM licensed software on something else than
General purpose engines.
Obviously IBM has managed to legally stop people from running z/OS on
Intel platfrom and the like, so I guess they could do something similar on
zIIP or zAAP
What would be nice would be to have the official definition of :
eligible workload 
But I am sur we will have to wait for sometimes :-))
As for the ethical part of the business that was referred to  on another
post by Bob, I firmly believe that either we are speaking business or we are
speaking ethics and in this case ethics should go both ways. 
After all, customer are charged for software on LPAR where it is not used (
RACF, RMM , CTG are some examples)
So it is a bit weird that customers should be prevented to defend their own
interest and try to use fully their owned hardware.

Not a simple story and as everyone said, we shall see 

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Re: IECIOSxx - suggested entries

2009-07-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:09:26 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:

This is follow-on of my EDGINERS problem.
IECIOSxx member was forgot during system migration.
The only problem was with EDGINERS on 3490E-C22 drives (rarely used
nowadays).
I fixed it by setting
MIH TIME=30:00,DEV=(devnum_addresses)

However I did some RTFM about parameters in the IECIOSxx member.

My question is:
What are typical/suggested/ROT entries in IECIOSxx member?

I know, it depends on the hardware.
In my case: some DASD boxes (various vendors, all made after 2000,
FICON-attached), 3592, 3590, 3490E.

Any clue?

If you are speaking about the MIH time, in the old days, the time had to be
set just a bit longer than the time needed to recycle the machine. 
( in case of automatic recovery by the ucode)

Was that your question ? 

Bruno Sugliani 
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http://zxnetconsult.free.fr 

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Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-17 Thread Klein, Kenneth
cool
z9 bc 2096 2 engines

 4 *-* CVT  = STORAGE(10,4)   
 ?::
5 *-* RMCT = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(CVT)+604),4)
 ?o??   
6 *-* SU   = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(RMCT)+64),4)
    
7 *-* SU   = 1600/C2D(SU)
 8743.1694  


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A bit late on this maybe but:

Determine the SU per second of your machine

You can get this with the following REXX code

CVT  = STORAGE(10,4) 
RMCT = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(CVT)+604),4)  
SU   = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(RMCT)+64),4)  
SU   = 1600/C2D(SU)  

For a 301 this would be 21857.9235

1 CPU second is therefor 21857.9235 Service Units

Divide this figure by 48.5 to get MIPS = 450.678835

Check that this correct by consulting Gartner etc and adjust the 48.5
more accurately

Use the actual Transaction CPU time to get the percentage of the 450
MIPS used E.G .002 secs = .9 MIPS

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Re: DEFINING USERCAT WITH GUARANTEED SPACE

2009-07-17 Thread esmie moo
Mohd,
 
Thanks for your suggestion.  I would like to try it out just for 1 problem.  If 
I disable the current volume (which SMS managed) then there could be a problem 
with allocation of dsns on that given volume. I think your suggestion is very 
sound.

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Subject: Re: DEFINING USERCAT WITH GUARANTEED SPACE
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Dear Esmie,

What not using export/import to move the user catalog to new volume. Make
sure to disable the current volume to ensure the new catalog not reside to
the same volume. The new volume must be added to the storagegroup. If you
like to guarantee space define the usercat to sms routine to DClass
guarantee space. This is must easier. Below I copy the JCL. Happy try.
//EXPCATLG  JOB  (SDB-SYSP),CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),        
//          NOTIFY=SYSUID                                            
//*                                                                   
//
//*   EXAMPLE OF HOW TO EXPORT ICF CATALOG (TEMPORARY)               *
//
//*                                                                   
//EXPORT    EXEC PGM=IDCAMS                                           
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=A                                             
//EXPDD     DD   DSN=xxx.x.x,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),              
//          BLKSIZE=4096,SPACE=(CYL,(10,10))                          
//SYSIN     DD   *                                                    
   EXPORT SYS1.ICFCAT.UCATPLN -                                          
       OUTFILE(EXPDD) -                                               
       TEMPORARY                                                      
/*                                                                    

//IMPORCT0  JOB  (SDB-SYSP),CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),

//          NOTIFY=SYSUID

//*

//

//*   EXAMPLE OF HOW TO IMPORT A USER CATALOG                        *

//

//*

//IMPORT    EXEC PGM=IDCAMS

//DD1       DD   VOL=SER=xx,UNIT=3390,DISP=OLD

//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*

//SYSIN     DD   *

  DELETE -

     CAT.USER.IMS   -

     FILE(DD1) -

     RECOVERY -

     USERCATALOG

  IMPORT -

     INDATASET(xx.xx.xx)      -

     OUTDATASET(SYS1.ICFCAT.UCATPLN) -

     OBJECTS((SYS1.ICFCAT.UCATPLN -                                
     VOLUMES(xx))) -                     
     INTOEMPTY -                                            
     ALIAS        -                                         
   CATALOG(xxx.MASTER.xx)                              
//*                                    

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Subject: DEFINING USERCAT WITH GUARANTEED SPACE

Good Day Gentle Readers,
 
I need to move an existing USERCAT from one vol to another.  The catalog is
SMS managed and the STORAGECLASS I will be using is GUASPACE.  Below is the
cluster definition.  I am not sure if I am missing anything.  Could someone
take a quick look and let me know if it is okay?
//DEFINE   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT) 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSIN    DD *    
    DEFINE    -    
    USERCATALOG   -    
    (NAME (SYS1.ICFCAT.UCATPLN)    -   
    CYL(25)   -    
    VOLUME(PLAN906)    -    
    STORAGECLASS(GUASPACE)    -    
    ICFCATALOG    -    
    STRNO(3)  -    
    FREESPACE(20 20)  -    
    NOIMBED   -    
    LOCK  -    
    SHAREOPTIONS(3 4))    -    
    DATA( -    
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096))    
 
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Re: DEFINING USERCAT WITH GUARANTEED SPACE

2009-07-17 Thread esmie moo
Chris,
 
Thanks for pointing out my error (volser).  Thanks for the secondary allocation 
tip.
 
Thanks to all who took the time to respond.

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From: Chris Edwards edwards_ch...@emc.com
Subject: Re: DEFINING USERCAT WITH GUARANTEED SPACE
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Received: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:16 PM


Other than the 7 character volser, the one comment I would make is that User 
Catalogs can use secondary extents which may just save a 2:30am call-out!

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Subject: DEFINING USERCAT WITH GUARANTEED SPACE

Good Day Gentle Readers,
 
I need to move an existing USERCAT from one vol to another.  The catalog is SMS 
managed and the STORAGECLASS I will be using is GUASPACE.  Below is the cluster 
definition.  I am not sure if I am missing anything.  Could someone take a 
quick look and let me know if it is okay?
//DEFINE   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT) 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSIN    DD *    
    DEFINE    -    
    USERCATALOG   -    
    (NAME (SYS1.ICFCAT.UCATPLN)    -   
    CYL(25)   -    
    VOLUME(PLAN906)    -    
    STORAGECLASS(GUASPACE)    -    
    ICFCATALOG    -    
    STRNO(3)  -    
    FREESPACE(20 20)  -    
    NOIMBED   -    
    LOCK  -    
    SHAREOPTIONS(3 4))    -    
    DATA( -    
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096))    
 
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Re: IECIOSxx - suggested entries

2009-07-17 Thread R.S.

Bruno Sugliani pisze:

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:09:26 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:


This is follow-on of my EDGINERS problem.
IECIOSxx member was forgot during system migration.
The only problem was with EDGINERS on 3490E-C22 drives (rarely used
nowadays).
I fixed it by setting
MIH TIME=30:00,DEV=(devnum_addresses)

However I did some RTFM about parameters in the IECIOSxx member.

My question is:
What are typical/suggested/ROT entries in IECIOSxx member?

I know, it depends on the hardware.
In my case: some DASD boxes (various vendors, all made after 2000,
FICON-attached), 3592, 3590, 3490E.

Any clue?


If you are speaking about the MIH time, in the old days, the time had to be
set just a bit longer than the time needed to recycle the machine. 
( in case of automatic recovery by the ucode)


Was that your question ? 


Well, no.
My MIH time seems to be OK.

However I have *empty* IECIOSxx (with the exception for single MIH 
entry). Maybe it's bad? Maybe I should have some entries in IECIOS, like 
MIDAW, FICON, etc. ?



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Re: Submit a JCL from within another JCL

2009-07-17 Thread Tony B.
Likewise your favorite SORT product. 

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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:06:23 -0400, Thompson, Steve  wrote:

You can use IKJ :

//SYSTSIN  DD *
 SUBMIT 'YOUR.PDS.JCL(JCL)'

Subject to the restriction that the source data set must have 
RECFM=F[B],LRECL=80.  IEBGENER is more flexible.

Except that the OP did say KSDS... IDCAMS can REPRO to the INTRDR.

As the thread raveled, that slipped from my short term memory.  Checking,
the OP said flat file / KSDS.  We don't know whether he meant he was
seeking a utility that works for both, or would find either satisfactory.
But, yes, either REPRO or IEBGENER is free of the F80 restriction (I haven't
tried REPRO for submit).

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What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Klein, Kenneth
In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
common best practices?
Before every APPLY?
Never?


Ken Klein
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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Bob Shannon
After all, customer are charged for software on LPAR where it is not used ( 
RACF, RMM , CTG are some examples) So it is a bit weird that customers 
should be prevented to defend their own interest and try to use fully their 
owned hardware.

No, you're not. You're charged for the capacity of the box, and more 
importantly someone in your company agreed to it. IBM has a variety of pricing 
options and anyone who wants a better deal should speak to their account 
representative.

A complete set of PUs, 10, 12, 16 or whatever the current number is, is shipped 
with the processor. If you pay for one should be able to hot-wire the others so 
that you can use them? Specialty engines were sold to run eligible work. From 
IBM's standpoint eligible work is a subset of all the work on the machine. If 
you decide to expand the definition of eligible work without IBM's agreement, 
in my opinion you are staling resources.
This is no different than bypassing the electric meter in your house. 

Bob Shannon

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ISPF ZSYSID Variable (Was NO SUBJECT)

2009-07-17 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:37:35 -0400, Klein, Kenneth 
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com wrote:

I want to change this line in a panel definition in our main ispplib:

9,'CMD(EX ''SVS.IBMOM.SYSTS1.SCKMPARM(CKMISPF)'')'

to one like this:

9,'CMD(EX ''SVS.IBMOM.ZSYSID.SCKMPARM(CKMISPF)'')'

SYSTS1 is the name of our sandbox lpar. I want to use this panel
unchanged on the other lpars.
Is that how this system variable is used or do I have to use a vget into
my own variable.

That's the one you want, no VGET required.  You will need an extra '.' to get 
the end-dsname right.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
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snip

 This is no different than bypassing the electric meter in your house. 
 
 Bob Shannon

I'd say that it is more like having two different electrical boxes. One is for 
general use, and the other only for critical medical use, which is charged 
at a reduced rate. Then plugging your TV into a socket on the medical use 
circuit.

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Re: NVAS error explanation

2009-07-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Chase, John wrote:
Why would that be true only for me?  I'm on the same network, in the same 
building, same list of applications, same terminal emulator, etc. etc. etc. 
.

I've watched this thread, up to now. Seemed you're not getting any good 
solution or that you have covered 'everything'...

I *think*, your NVAS VSAM datasets may have corrupt entries for you and 
your own definitions.

Could you perhaps make a backup, delete your VSAM datasets and the REPRO 
from another good (and working) backup. Then add your own definitions for 
yourself?

Try this out and let us know, please.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:48:09 -0400, Bob Shannon
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

IBM provides an API to vendors to allow preemptible SRBs to be routed to zIIPs

For reference, 
http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/%27HTTPD2.PT217.HTML(INDEX)%27

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Re: Article Mainframe Stolen

2009-07-17 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:19:08 -0400, Thompson, Steve 
steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote:

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A

There is no more worse than worst.

SNIP

So does that mean that wurst is chopped liver?

So, then, is the knock better, or is the wurst best?

(Sorry, it's Friday, and I couldn't resist.)

Art

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Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Klein, Kenneth
 
 In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
 delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
 common best practices?
 Before every APPLY?
 Never?

Our general ROT is to ACCEPT PTFs that have been running in the
production environment for 3 months or longer before APPLYing the next
round of preventive maintenance. APARs and USERMODs are *NEVER*
ACCEPTed.

-jc-

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Denis Gäbler
 Taking the electric meter example. What if I install solar electicity panels? 
Am I stealing ressources and bypass the power companies meter? Am I not allowed 
to use the electricity that the panels produce, just because I have a contract 
with the power company? Or am I not allowed to replace the old lamps with 
energy saver lamps, just because I have a contract with the power company?
Thats difficult. But I am not a lawyer. Just comparing.

By that definition any attempt to rewrite a CICS transaction to run parts of 
the work as SRB would be a violation, since that piece of software would likely 
not be eligable by the definition of IBM?! So with a PC example, do I have to 
ask Microsoft to write a software that speeds up the Windows bootup process and 
sell it?
Or assuming that a software tweeks an operating systems control block to e.g. 
allow to run as zxxP eligable is considered violating some agreement, any 
software (e.g. delta VT or Omegamon or Mainview) that manipulates control 
blocks for ease of use or saving an IPL (which burns CPU and ressources) would 
be also considered unauthorized software, because rather than using documented 
APIs it changes bits in control? blocks of licensed IBM software and it might 
over a period of 12 months save you buying one additional CP?


Denis.

 

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After all, customer are charged for software on LPAR where it is not used ( 
RACF, RMM , CTG are some examples) So it is a bit weird that customers should 
be prevented to defend their own interest and try to use fully their owned 
hardware.

No, you're not. You're charged for the capacity of the box, and more 
importantly 
someone in your company agreed to it. IBM has a variety of pricing options and 
anyone who wants a better deal should speak to their account representative.

A complete set of PUs, 10, 12, 16 or whatever the current number is, is shipped 
with the processor. If you pay for one should be able to hot-wire the others so 
that you can use them? Specialty engines were sold to run eligible work. From 
IBM's standpoint eligible work is a subset of all the work on the machine. If 
you decide to expand the definition of eligible work without IBM's agreement, 
in my opinion you are staling resources.
This is no different than bypassing the electric meter in your house. 

Bob Shannon

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Re: Article Mainframe Stolen

2009-07-17 Thread Thompson, Steve
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:19:08 -0400, Thompson, Steve 
steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote:

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Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A

There is no more worse than worst.

SNIP

So does that mean that wurst is chopped liver?

So, then, is the knock better, or is the wurst best?

(Sorry, it's Friday, and I couldn't resist.)

SNIP

Or is Liver worst?

(and on it goes for a Friday)

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 07:48 -0500, Alan Altmark wrote:

 For reference, 
 http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/%27HTTPD2.PT217.HTML(INDEX)%27

Thanks for the attempt Alan, but I wonder how many of the unwashed
masses have access to that page.

Shane ...

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/17/2009 8:01:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ibm-m...@tpg.com.au writes:

  http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/%27HTTPD2.PT217.HTML(INDEX)%27

Thanks for  the attempt Alan, but I wonder how many of the unwashed
masses have access  to that page.


Haven't bathed today, but it popped right up.


--- quote ---
A document and additional information that describes the software  
interfaces that can be used by a program, to request that z/OS cause SRBs in  
an 
Enclave to be executed in part on zIIPs, is now available subject to  certain 
terms and conditions. Please note, the interfaces for creating and  
classifying Enclaves and scheduling SRBs for execution are already available  
in 
existing z/OS product documentation. This supplemental material provides  
information to direct the SRBs in the Enclave to execute in part on zIIPs.  

In order to receive this document and additional information, you must  
meet certain requirements which include the execution of a licensing agreement  
with IBM. If you wish to find out more about the requirements associated 
with  this document and additional information, please send an email to  
zi...@us.ibm.com _zi...@us.ibm.com _ (mailto:cics...@us.ibm.com) with  your 
company name, your name, your business phone number and your business  email 
address along with the subject zIIP Document
 
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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread P S
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Denis Gäbler denisgaeb...@netscape.netwrote:

  Taking the electric meter example. What if I install solar electicity
 panels? Am I stealing ressources and bypass the power companies meter? Am I
 not allowed to use the electricity that the panels produce, just because I
 have a contract with the power company? Or am I not allowed to replace the
 old lamps with energy saver lamps, just because I have a contract with the
 power company?
 Thats difficult. But I am not a lawyer. Just comparing.


No, but that's not a good analogy. The solar panels are more like offloading
work to an Intel or AIX box than running it on a processor that you were
sold at a reduced price under certain TCs.

I like the medical power socket analogy very much!


 By that definition any attempt to rewrite a CICS transaction to run parts
 of the work as SRB would be a violation, since that piece of software would
 likely not be eligable by the definition of IBM?! So with a PC example, do I
 have to ask Microsoft to write a software that speeds up the Windows bootup
 process and sell it?
 Or assuming that a software tweeks an operating systems control block to
 e.g. allow to run as zxxP eligable is considered violating some agreement,
 any software (e.g. delta VT or Omegamon or Mainview) that manipulates
 control blocks for ease of use or saving an IPL (which burns CPU and
 ressources) would be also considered unauthorized software, because rather
 than using documented APIs it changes bits in control? blocks of licensed
 IBM software and it might over a period of 12 months save you buying one
 additional CP?


The courts will (presumably) look at the result, which is pretty simple:
non-eligible work is running on a box that was explicitly sold *at a reduced
price* with TsCs defining eligible work. The zPRIME users are plugging
their TVs (or more likely their space heaters) into the medical socket.

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Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Staller, Allan
snip
Subject: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
common best practices?
/snip

Generally speaking, I perform general maintenance quarterly and roll
from sandbox through dev/test environments before going to production.
Separate sets of SYSRES's are maintained for the various environments
and cloned at the appropriate times. This takes about 6 months from
apply to accept. I also apply this philosophy to 3rd-party and
middleware products. I concur with the other poster that never accepts
usermods or APAR fixes. 

From the prior base level

1) Receive current set of maintenance/holddata. This ensures an late
breaking problems are blocked from being applied/accepted.
2) LIST SYMODS APPLY(TZONE) NOACCEPT(DZONE). List of applied but
unaccepted PTF's.
3) Edit this list to just the SYSMODID's.
4) ACCEPT CHECK S(list) GROUPEXTEND. Resolve outstanding system
holds,.error holds,... 
5) ACCEPT.
6) Proceed with normal apply processing for next round of maint.

This ensures that only ptfs that have been blooded in your environment
are accepted.

HTH,

 

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Denis Gäbler
 I agree, the electrical meter sample with medical plug sounds reasonable, but 
I unfortunatly I found it after posting my statement.



Denis.




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Sent: Fri, Jul 17, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME










On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Denis Gäbler denisgaeb...@netscape.netwrote:

  Taking the electric meter example. What if I install solar electicity
 panels? Am I stealing ressources and bypass the power companies meter? Am I
 not allowed to use the electricity that the panels produce, just because I
 have a contract with the power company? Or am I not allowed to replace the
 old lamps with energy saver lamps, just because I have a contract with the
 power company?
 Thats difficult. But I am not a lawyer. Just comparing.


No, but that's not a good analogy. The solar panels are more like offloading
work to an Intel or AIX box than running it on a processor that you were
sold at a reduced price under certain TCs.

I like the medical power socket analogy very much!


 By that definition any attempt to rewrite a CICS transaction to run parts
 of the work as SRB would be a violation, since that piece of software would
 likely not be eligable by the definition of IBM?! So with a PC example, do I
 have to ask Microsoft to write a software that speeds up the Windows bootup
 process and sell it?
 Or assuming that a=2
0software tweeks an operating systems control block to
 e.g. allow to run as zxxP eligable is considered violating some agreement,
 any software (e.g. delta VT or Omegamon or Mainview) that manipulates
 control blocks for ease of use or saving an IPL (which burns CPU and
 ressources) would be also considered unauthorized software, because rather
 than using documented APIs it changes bits in control? blocks of licensed
 IBM software and it might over a period of 12 months save you buying one
 additional CP?


The courts will (presumably) look at the result, which is pretty simple:
non-eligible work is running on a box that was explicitly sold *at a reduced
price* with TsCs defining eligible work. The zPRIME users are plugging
their TVs (or more likely their space heaters) into the medical socket.

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Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Schwartz, Alan
 
There's a job run here to download IBM holddata on a weekly basis.  By
the time someone tries to do an ACCEPT there are so many APPLIED ptf's
with pe's it's almost not worth the effort.

Alan Schwartz
ASC Inc.

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Behalf Of Staller, Allan
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on
z/OS?

snip
Subject: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
common best practices?
/snip

Generally speaking, I perform general maintenance quarterly and roll
from sandbox through dev/test environments before going to production.
Separate sets of SYSRES's are maintained for the various environments
and cloned at the appropriate times. This takes about 6 months from
apply to accept. I also apply this philosophy to 3rd-party and
middleware products. I concur with the other poster that never accepts
usermods or APAR fixes. 

From the prior base level

1) Receive current set of maintenance/holddata. This ensures an late
breaking problems are blocked from being applied/accepted.
2) LIST SYMODS APPLY(TZONE) NOACCEPT(DZONE). List of applied but
unaccepted PTF's.
3) Edit this list to just the SYSMODID's.
4) ACCEPT CHECK S(list) GROUPEXTEND. Resolve outstanding system
holds,.error holds,... 
5) ACCEPT.
6) Proceed with normal apply processing for next round of maint.

This ensures that only ptfs that have been blooded in your environment
are accepted.

HTH,

 

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Fwd: Help Required : HSM Auto Backups getting HELD everyday

2009-07-17 Thread ROHIT
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From: ROHIT storage.mainfr...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Subject: Help Required : HSM Auto Backups getting HELD everyday
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu


Hi Everyone,

We have this issue going on customer for few weeks, AUTOMATIC BACKUPS
starts everyday at 1700 HRS and its getting HELD by OPS/MVS by issuing
this  message in the LOG :

***
09146 17:00:04.21  0284  OPS1370O OPSMAIN  X'' X'0001'
X'0200'
 HOLD DFHSMAV1 at
17:00:00
09146 17:00:04.21  0280  OPS/MVS HOLD DFHSMAV1 at 17:00:00
***

When I checked with automation team they showed me this rule defined in
their library .


/**
 *
 *   Issue operator command at 1700 daily (AUTOP)
 *
 **
 */
 address OPER
 F DFHSMAV1,HOLD RECYCLE
 F DFHSMAV1,HOLD AUDIT
  WTX.0 = 1
  WTX.1 = OPS/MVS HOLD DFHSMAV1 at 17:00:00
   ADDRESS WTO ,/* ISSUE WTL MESSAGE */
TEXTVAR(WTX.) OPTION(C) MSGID(''),
 MCSFLAGS(HRDCPY) /* FORCE HARDCOPY*/

 /* S DKEEPLST*/
)END
**

I am not sure why BACKUPs are getting HELD up because as per this rule
RECYCLE and AUDIT should be HELD .

Usually I  end up releasing BACKUPS manually and if we miss this then as
everyone knows nothing is migrated later in the daily by primary space
management and we end up having space issues .

Will appreciate your valuable input  on this in tackling this.


Rohit Bhandari
MVS Storage Engineer
India

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Bob Woodside
On Friday 17 July 2009, Alan Altmark wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:48:09 -0400, Bob Shannon

 bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 IBM provides an API to vendors to allow preemptible SRBs to be
  routed to zIIPs

 For reference,
 http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/%27HTTPD2.PT217.HTML(INDEX)%27

This link appears borken.  :-(

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM


Bob Woodside ibm...@woodsway.com wrote in message
news:200907170929.54776.ibm...@woodsway.com...
 On Friday 17 July 2009, Alan Altmark wrote:
  On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:48:09 -0400, Bob Shannon
 
  bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
  IBM provides an API to vendors to allow preemptible SRBs to be
   routed to zIIPs
 
  For reference,
  http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/%27HTTPD2.PT217.HTML(INDEX)%27
 
 This link appears borken.  :-(
 
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Re: ISPF ZSYSID Variable (Was NO SUBJECT)

2009-07-17 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:34:44 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com 
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:37:35 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com wrote:
[...]
That's the one you want, no VGET required.  You will need an extra '.' to get
the end-dsname right.

My apologies, I see later this was answered sufficiently by others.  That's 
what happens when I get the daily digest, and there's no subject on the OP...

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Tony B.
Back in the old days diesel fuel was sold to farmers, bulk delivered to a
home tank, for tractor use only, cheaper and exempt from road use tax.  It
was color dyed for obvious reasons.  Occasionally a pickup truck would be
seen in  town with a splash of reddish purple around the gas cap.


  

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Denis G äbler
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:14 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

 I agree, the electrical meter sample with medical plug sounds reasonable,
but I unfortunatly I found it after posting my statement.


 
Denis.


 

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Sent: Fri, Jul 17, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME










On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Denis Gäbler
denisgaeb...@netscape.netwrote:

  Taking the electric meter example. What if I install solar electicity 
 panels? Am I stealing ressources and bypass the power companies meter? 
 Am I not allowed to use the electricity that the panels produce, just 
 because I have a contract with the power company? Or am I not allowed 
 to replace the old lamps with energy saver lamps, just because I have 
 a contract with the power company?
 Thats difficult. But I am not a lawyer. Just comparing.


No, but that's not a good analogy. The solar panels are more like offloading
work to an Intel or AIX box than running it on a processor that you were
sold at a reduced price under certain TCs.

I like the medical power socket analogy very much!


 By that definition any attempt to rewrite a CICS transaction to run 
 parts of the work as SRB would be a violation, since that piece of 
 software would likely not be eligable by the definition of IBM?! So 
 with a PC example, do I have to ask Microsoft to write a software that 
 speeds up the Windows bootup process and sell it?
 Or assuming that a=2
0software tweeks an operating systems control block to
 e.g. allow to run as zxxP eligable is considered violating some 
 agreement, any software (e.g. delta VT or Omegamon or Mainview) that 
 manipulates control blocks for ease of use or saving an IPL (which 
 burns CPU and
 ressources) would be also considered unauthorized software, because 
 rather than using documented APIs it changes bits in control? blocks 
 of licensed IBM software and it might over a period of 12 months save 
 you buying one additional CP?


The courts will (presumably) look at the result, which is pretty simple:
non-eligible work is running on a box that was explicitly sold *at a reduced
price* with TsCs defining eligible work. The zPRIME users are plugging
their TVs (or more likely their space heaters) into the medical socket.

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
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 On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Denis Gäbler 
 denisgaeb...@netscape.netwrote:
 

snip

 
 I like the medical power socket analogy very much!

And to enhance it a bit. The power via the medical socket is not standard 
120VAC 60Hz (US) either. It is slightly different and the medical equipment is 
designed to run on the, say 162VAC 87Hz, power. But a company has now developed 
a bridge socket which takes in the 162VAC 87Hz power and gives out 120VAC 
60Hz. That's sort of what zPrime is doing. Kinda. Would such a device be legal? 
It's only use is to bypass a company power restriction which was given to the 
consumer for a specific use (TC) and making it run other devices. Just my 
feelings on the matter.

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Re: IECIOSxx - suggested entries

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:09:26 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:


My question is:
What are typical/suggested/ROT entries in IECIOSxx member?

I know, it depends on the hardware.

Exactly.  Ask your vendor.

In my case: some DASD boxes (various vendors, all made after 2000,
FICON-attached), 3592, 3590, 3490E.


I think we used to have 3:00 for our old EMC DASD some time ago, but
it is currently 2:00.  That was for DMX2000 and DMX4.

Here is what I have for DASD (EMC) and tape (Sun/STK)

MIH   DASD=02:00 
MIH TIME=20:00,DEV=(xxx-xxx) STK 9490 (3490)  
MIH TIME=20:00,DEV=(xxx-xxx) STK 9840 
MIH TIME=20:00,DEV=(xxx-xxx) STK 9840 
MIH TIME=20:00,DEV=(-)   STK VSM4 VTSS1   
MIH TIME=20:00,DEV=(-)   STK VSM4 VTSS2   

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Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-17 Thread Staller, Allan
Where did the 48.5 number come from?

snip
A bit late on this maybe but:

Determine the SU per second of your machine

You can get this with the following REXX code

CVT  = STORAGE(10,4) 
RMCT = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(CVT)+604),4)  
SU   = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(RMCT)+64),4)  
SU   = 1600/C2D(SU)  

For a 301 this would be 21857.9235

1 CPU second is therefor 21857.9235 Service Units

Divide this figure by 48.5 to get MIPS = 450.678835
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Re: code page help

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:09:14 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:

How do you telnet directly to OMVS?

See the IP configuration guide:

2.2.2 Configuring the z/OS UNIX Telnet server

You setup otelnet in the inetd config.  You pick the port and usually define
that in /etc/services for otelnet.


It's a different port, usually 5029 (I believe by default), where 29 is TSO
(again, I believe), but it's been so long since I've used, I can't recall
correctly.


AFAIK, there is no default.  The services sample in SEZAINST and 
in /usr/lpp/tcpip/samples/ don't define otelnet  at all.

The most common convention is to use n23 as the port number since
23 is standard telnet.  Most shops I've been at use 623.  I think this
number could have come from some early samples, techdocs etc.
from IBM.  I've also been on a few systems that had otelnet set up
for 23 and MVS telnet setup at n23.


But, check with your network people, as to the actual port number.

Or your Comm. Server sysprog.


Then the IP address is usually of the form:

10.xxx.yyy.zzz:5029 -- assuming my port number is correct.
-

Using win-doze, I do this from a command prompt or run;

telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 623

You get this prompt :

EZYTE27I login:  (enter userid)
EZYTE28I myuserid Password:

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Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:25:09 -0400, Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
wrote:

In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
common best practices?
Before every APPLY?
Never?

Search the archives.  Look for the best practices session from SHARE 
given by Greg Daynes.   

Bottom line:  You should be accepting maintenance (for any software)
on a regular basis that goes along with your apply cycles in order to have
a restore point.  For z/OS, my best practice is to ACCEPT six months
behind the apply level.

Mark
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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread R.S.
I think that we can provide many other analogies, but no of them is 
really applicable.


Last, but not least: I'm pretty sure, that zPRIME creators thoroughly 
checked legal issues at the early stage of the project. Maybe their 
conclusion is disputable, but it's not as obvious as regular software 
piracy.



BTW: In the times of 9672's I was offerred to enable more CPs *without* 
IBM's permission. Obviously I refused, but I would be very interested in 
watching court trial in such case. Especially outside of U.S. As far as 
I read our Intelectual Property Code from 1994 it would be hard to find 
what's wrong...


My $0.02
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Re: NVAS error explanation RESOLVED

2009-07-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chris Mason
 
 John
 
 I'm not familiar with NVAS but this messages looks like the sort that
is
 presented to a feeble end user who could not cope with complicated
technical
 explanations and so the ridiculous words network constraints are
used which
 could means anything.
 
 Looking at the NVAS Messages manual I see some which contain VTAM
nitty-
 gritty such as RPLREQ = Xcc, RTNCD = Xrr, FDBK2 = Xff, SENSE =
X,
 LU = ll, CID = Xidididid., that is, stuff with which I can
work. That
 suggests that there may be more useful messages in an NVAS log. You
should
 check such a log for the time you had your problem, perhaps using the
name
 of the secondary APPL statement you were using. I hope the relevant
name is
 presented somewhere on your NVAS panel.
 
 In addition to that there may well be VTAM messages describing
something
 having gone wrong on the console also at the time you had your problem
-
 more handy nitty-gritty than the stupid network constraints.

Thanks very kindly.  I forgot about looking at SYSLOG.

Here's what appears there (from VTAM):

IST663I  INIT OTHER REQUEST   FAILED  , SENSE=08210002
IST664I  REAL  OLU=NetID.LM840004   REAL  DLU=NetID.CICSTECH
IST889I  SID = C40BD4AEEC2AF7FA   
IST264I  REQUIRED LOGMODE NAME  DYNAMIC  UNDEFINED
IST314I  END

And (from NVAS):

EMS0599E ERROR - RPLREQ = X29, RTNCD = X14, FDBK2 = X4B, SENSE = 
X08210002, LU  
EMS0599E = CICSTECH, CID = X.
EMS0524E MODULE EMSCREQE; ERROR DURING ALLOCATION  - PLU = CICSTECH, SLU
 =   
EMS0524E LM840004.

So, it looks like we forgot to configure NVAS to support modern
emulators (my default MODEENT is D4C32XX3, which NVAS apparently
presents to VTAM as DYNAMIC).  When I override the MODEENT at CINIT time
with EXT32782 (locally-defined clone of SNX32702 but with smaller
RUSIZEs), the relay mode logons within NVAS work but I'm stuck with
a 24x80 screen size.

As a side note, I've been bypassing NVAS for the last decade or so; now
I'm being asked more often to explain why some things don't work as
expected, and the most frequent complaint is the EMS1166E Relay Mode
logon failed ... message.

-jc-

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/17/2009 8:35:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tbabo...@comcast.net writes:

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and poured in an ounce of nitro glycerin from the blasting  supplies. 
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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
I have often wondered about the legality of turning other engines on on
an owned machine. They were delivered as part of what was bought, should
they be ours to do with as we please? 

We use 3rd party maintenance on or processor (government competitive
bid). When IBM offered an IFL to use for a z/VM and z/Linux proof of
concept project, IBM sent people to turn on and off the IFL - i.e. IBM
installed the enabling microcode, they would not deliver it to the 3rd
party.

The SCRT report also included information about the IFL and we were
called and questioned why it was on and not paid for. 

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other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
manufactured, since the beginning of time.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Bob Shannon
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:26 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME
 
 After all, customer are charged for software on LPAR where it is not
 used ( RACF, RMM , CTG are some examples) So it is a bit weird that
 customers should be prevented to defend their own interest and try to
 use fully their owned hardware.
 
 No, you're not. You're charged for the capacity of the box, and more
 importantly someone in your company agreed to it. IBM has a variety of
 pricing options and anyone who wants a better deal should speak to
 their account representative.
 
 A complete set of PUs, 10, 12, 16 or whatever the current number is,
is
 shipped with the processor. If you pay for one should be able to hot-
 wire the others so that you can use them? Specialty engines were sold
 to run eligible work. From IBM's standpoint eligible work is a subset
 of all the work on the machine. If you decide to expand the definition
 of eligible work without IBM's agreement, in my opinion you are
 staling resources.
 This is no different than bypassing the electric meter in your house.
 
 Bob Shannon
 
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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony B.
 
 Back in the old days diesel fuel was sold to farmers, bulk delivered
to a
 home tank, for tractor use only, cheaper and exempt from road use tax.
It
 was color dyed for obvious reasons.  Occasionally a pickup truck would
be
 seen in  town with a splash of reddish purple around the gas cap.

Well, since we're this far astray already

Automatic transmission fluid is alleged to be an excellent additive to
Diesel fuel for keeping injectors clean, valves lubricated, etc.
Unfortunately, the dye used in the tax-exempt fuel is the same color as
automatic transmission fluid (I wonder if that was intentional?).

-jc-

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Re: Authenticate with RACF from Web App

2009-07-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
Correction: base z/OS includes the IBM Tivoli Directory Server for z/OS,
not the z/OS Security Server element.

Very nice!:

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
The error you are getting would indicate that there is no output on
stdout pipe from unzip.   As you suggest, it looks like unzip from
stdin (using -) doesn't work.  You might try this as an equivalent
alternative for reading from stdin:

fromdsn -b //DD:IN   |
   unzip -p /dev/fd0  |
   todsn -s ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 //DD:OUT

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Vikesh Bhoolavbho...@sars.gov.za wrote:
 Bob, thanks for confirmation regarding the MVS (cmsmvs) build of unzip.
 I did see the same error when executing the MVS version in USS, but was 
 wondering if it perhaps was the syntax.

 I managed to compiled the unix version which works well
 Just a change in the README.zOS:
 gmake -f unix/Makefile ZOS
 results in:
 gmake: *** No rule to make target `ZOS'.  Stop.
 Should be gmake -f unix/Makefile zos


 Tried piping using COZBATCH, to read/write to MVS datasets but I don't get 
 the DD://IN part right.

 //INFOZIP  EXEC PGM=COZBATCH
 //STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=hlq.COZ130.LOADLIB
 //IN       DD DISP=SHR,DSN=userid.INPUT.ZIP
 //OUT      DD DISP=(,CATLG),DSN=userid.OUTPUT.NEW,
 //   SPACE=(TRK,(7500,15000),RLSE),RECFM=FB,LRECL=171,BLKSIZE=0
 //STDOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
 //STDIN    DD  *
 fromdsn -b //DD:IN   |
   unzip -p - |
   todsn -s ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 //DD:OUT

 I get the unzip usage message  this :
 todsn(DD:OUT)ÝE¨: error: no input data available
 CEE5213S The signal SIGPIPE was received.
 CoZBatchÝI¨: returning rc=exitcode=103


 This STDIN works, but means the input must be USS file :
   unzip -p /tmp/INPUT.zip |
   todsn -s ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 //DD:OUT

 Any ideas ?

 I'll let you know as soon I have time to figure out what the latest problem 
 is. I'm really sorry this is taking so long. Thanks for your input.

 Bob, no worries for unzip, the real need was ZIP which is resolved thanks to 
 you.
 I'm just testing to verify it works, should its requirement later arise.


 Kind Regards,
 Vikesh Bhoola
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REXX and BPXWDYN

2009-07-17 Thread Neal Eckhardt
I am trying to use BPXWDYN to do a dynamic allocation from REXX under 
IRXJCL. I am getting a RC 20. How can I find out the actual problem? Is there 
any way to see S99ERROR and S99INFO?

Here is the statement:

IF BPXWDYN(ALLOC DD(OUT) DA('WORK.TAPE') NEW KEEP UNIT(TAPE) 
REUSE) ¬= 0
  THEN
DO
  SAY Allocation failed RC = RC
  EXIT 8
END

Thanks,
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Re: Authenticate with RACF from Web App

2009-07-17 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
If you have CICS web services (included free with CICS 3.1 and above), you can 
call a CICS web service that executes a CICS verify password command.  This 
gives you various return codes for the conditions that you mentioned, which you 
can pass back to your web app.  Sample CICS code:

EXEC CICS VERIFY 
  PASSWORD(WS-PASSWORD)  
  USERID(WS-USER-ID) 
  RESP(Resp-Fld) 
  RESP2(Resp2-Fld)   
  END-EXEC.  
 
Evaluate Resp-Fld
  When DFHRESP(NORMAL)   
Continue 
  When DFHRESP(NOTAUTH)  
Perform 2110-NOTAUTH-ERROR   
  When DFHRESP(USERIDERR)
Perform 2120-USERIDERR-ERROR 
  When DFHRESP(INVREQ)   
Perform 2130-INVREQ-ERROR
  When Other 
Perform 7020-CICS-ERROR-STOP 
END-EVALUATE.
 

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Bob Bonhard
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Authenticate with RACF from Web App

Thanks in advance for all/any advice, direction, samples, expertise related to 
my question.  I was approached by one of our distributed application folks with 
a request that I believe should be very possible to accommodate based on my 
experiences with zOS system sftwr/hdwr, WAS, etc.   
 
The app is web-based running on non-zOS platform.  They would likebe able to 
connect to the mainframe to authenticate a RACF ID/password; if the ID and 
password are OK, continue with the app (possibly return a RC=0 or any other 
OK);  if ID unknown, pswd wrong, pswd revoked or expired, provide a non-zero 
return code or not OK msg with explicit reason, even routing user to a web 
page where they can update an expiring password, correct an invalid password.  
I'm hoping to find something that is *easy* and *cheap* to implement (free 
being the key word), and generic enough to be used by any subsequent apps.  I 
figure there has to be an easy way to do this but I don't know what that way 
is, whether a direct call to RACF or USS, some kind of non-html call to the IBM 
HTTP server, WebSphereAS, MQ ... something simple and free. 
 
Thank you,
Bob Bonhard/UPS I.S.

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Re: NVAS error explanation RESOLVED

2009-07-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Chase, John wrote:

So, it looks like we forgot to configure NVAS to support modern
emulators (my default MODEENT is D4C32XX3, which NVAS apparently
presents to VTAM as DYNAMIC).  When I override the MODEENT at CINIT time 
with EXT32782 (locally-defined clone of SNX32702 but with smaller RUSIZEs), 
the relay mode logons within NVAS work but I'm stuck with a 24x80 screen 
size.

Good! Better! Excellent! ;-D

Does this also explain this 'I am the only one in the building who has this 
problem'?

I forgot about the logmodes. I'll remember that.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Vikesh Bhoola
Kirk, thanks for your response.
I tried 
fromdsn -b //DD:IN   |
   unzip -p /dev/fd0  |
   todsn -s ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 //DD:OUT

and get the following :

CoZBatchÝN¨: Copyright (C) 2005-2009 Dovetailed Technologies LLC. All rights res
CoZBatchÝN¨: version 1.3.0 2009-06-11   
CoZBatchÝI¨: executing progname=login-shell=-/bin/sh  
Ý/dev/fd0¨  
  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive. 
todsn(DD:OUT)ÝE¨: error: no input data available
CEE5213S The signal SIGPIPE was received.   
CoZBatchÝI¨: returning rc=exitcode=103  


Thanks for all the help, 
Vikesh

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Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:53:26 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe 
patrick.oke...@wamu.net wrote:


The IBM convention as to importance (W,I,E,C) does not apply to
console messages.  As far as I know this has always been the case.
For console messages I believe W is for a Wait State message, E is
for an eventual response needed, and I'm not sure the other 2 are
used at all.  To the extent that the convention you refer to exists at
all, I think it is for SYSOUT messages like from compilers, etc.

Patrick, its more than an IBM convention -- its an IBM Corporate Standard 
(which I own) C-S 3-7019-002 Message Format. Unfortunately, its confidential 
(I've tried several times to make it unconfidential and published, but to no 
avail). This standard applies to all messages on z architecture that are 
written 
to an operator's console (sorry, can't help you with the COBOL messages) and 
applies to z/OS, z/VSE and z/VM (sorry, not zTPF or zLinux). 

The standard describes what a message ID should look like (and othr things) 
and as you state W means wait state and we do use I and E (as well as A 
and D) but not C. There is a table in the standard relating each of these to 
the descriptor codes that are set (on z/OS). There are some best practices in 
terms of how to do message text (so that it won't flub up automation) and 
rules about the kinds of changes that can be made to a message without 
requiring that the message get a new message ID.

As you know, I hang out on the System Automation user group on Yahoo and 
I've encouraged automation folk that have encountered messages that do not 
follow the conventions (such as command responses not setting the command 
response bit or descriptor code 5 so that they can be caught by a NetView 
PIPE) to submit PMRs to fix the message -- and if they get a hard time, to 
mention my name and the standard. I can't really help too much with poor 
English in messages (the standard doesn't address that) but be assured that 
when at least the z/OS folks consider new messages (or changes to an 
existing message), they will usually run it by me first. 

W. Kevin Kelley  IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Jacky Bright
Did anyone get chance to listen to these folks for their webinar on July 15
? Is there anything interesting ?
JAcky

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Re: REXX and BPXWDYN

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Eckhardt
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:11 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: REXX and BPXWDYN
 
 I am trying to use BPXWDYN to do a dynamic allocation from REXX under 
 IRXJCL. I am getting a RC 20. How can I find out the actual 
 problem? Is there 
 any way to see S99ERROR and S99INFO?
 
 Here is the statement:
 
 IF BPXWDYN(ALLOC DD(OUT) DA('WORK.TAPE') NEW KEEP UNIT(TAPE) 
 REUSE) ¬= 0
   THEN
 DO
   SAY Allocation failed RC = RC
   EXIT 8
 END
 
 Thanks,
 Neal

The book is at:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZB680/6.0

RC=20 means invalid parameter list. Also in the book:

quote
 Dynamic allocation provides message text for failed allocation requests.
 It is usually easier to use this message text rather than decode
 allocation return codes.

 BPXWDYN can return these messages to a REXX program. By default, the
 messages are returned in the S99MSG. stem. S99MSG.0 contains the number of
 messages and S99MSG.1 through S99MSG.n contain the message text.
/quote

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Edward Jaffe

Denis Gdbler wrote:

Thats true, but recent lawsuits in the distributed area had no luck forcing 
users to run only specific work on bought (owned) hardware, e.g. you can do 
number crunching on graphic chips, which were initially only intended for 
graphics work.
It would be interesting to see, if there is any way to force somebody to only 
use certified software on specific owned hardware?
Another example that comes into mind is the uncertified use of OpenWRT on any 
router (DSL/Wireless) in the world. Linksys/Cisco has no way of preventing me 
from running this linux distribution on my own bought or rented router and make 
use of whatever the chips on the hardware may provide.
  


Yes. I believe it would be difficult nee illegal to tell someone they 
can't use their own property for any purpose they choose. Taking that to 
the next logical step, you could say that if a customer accidentally 
discovered (e.g., public domain) enabling code that would let them run 
arbitrary programs on a zAAP engine they own (not lease), they should be 
allowed to do so.


But, running programs and paying license fees for IBM software are two 
entirely different things. Most z/OS customers are essentially renting 
IBM software, paying month-to-month. Those customers accepted certain 
pricing terms regarding IBM-specified eligible workloads.


IBM might not be able to legally prevent customers that own zAAPs from 
running arbitrary work on them. But, nothing says they are obligated to 
discount those ineligible MIPS when calculating the customer's monthly 
bill for z/OS and related software. In fact, without instrumentation to 
distinguish the eligible from ineligible zAAP (or zIIP) execution, 
IBM could be within their rights to consider it all ineligible. Imagine 
that... Your bill actually goes UP. Yikes!


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Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey Authentication and only use Password?

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Post
 On 7/16/2009 at  4:32 PM, Leonard Sasso lsa...@csc.com wrote: 
-snip-
 Do you know how to Disable Publickey Authentication using the command line 
 options?

That's not your problem.  Having publickey auth available doesn't interfere 
with using passwords.  As someone else noted a day or two ago, your problem is 
that password authentication cannot be done in batch, only in interactive mode. 
 The man page for sftp confirms this.  If you want to run in batch, you _must_ 
use publickey authentication.


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Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey Authentication and only use Password?

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Post
 On 7/16/2009 at  5:30 PM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: 
 We think it is an either or, so turning one on turns the other off: 

Nope.  You would need to specify PubkeyAuthentication no either on the 
command line or in the global ssh_config, or ~/.ssh/config.  In this case, 
however, that's not going to help the OP.


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Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey Authentication and only use Password?

2009-07-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
It depends on what you mean by batch.You can absolutely get sftp
to work in a z/OS batch job using SSH_ASK_PASS.   I provided an
example earlier in this thread, and others have posted similar
examples.


On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Mark Postmp...@novell.com wrote:
 On 7/16/2009 at  4:32 PM, Leonard Sasso lsa...@csc.com wrote:
 -snip-
 Do you know how to Disable Publickey Authentication using the command line
 options?

 That's not your problem.  Having publickey auth available doesn't interfere 
 with using passwords.  As someone else noted a day or two ago, your problem 
 is that password authentication cannot be done in batch, only in interactive 
 mode.  The man page for sftp confirms this.  If you want to run in batch, you 
 _must_ use publickey authentication.


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Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey Authentication and only use Password?

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:37 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey 
 Authentication and only use Password?
 
  On 7/16/2009 at  4:32 PM, Leonard Sasso lsa...@csc.com wrote: 
 -snip-
  Do you know how to Disable Publickey Authentication using 
 the command line 
  options?
 
 That's not your problem.  Having publickey auth available 
 doesn't interfere with using passwords.  As someone else 
 noted a day or two ago, your problem is that password 
 authentication cannot be done in batch, only in interactive 
 mode.  The man page for sftp confirms this.  If you want to 
 run in batch, you _must_ use publickey authentication.
 
 
 Mark Post

And doesn't this require that you not have a passphrase? I have used Co:Z in 
the past to schedule work on my Linux box via SSH from a batch job. But I had 
to create a keyfile with no passphrase on it.

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
Looks like unzip doesn't like your input data.   I'll bet that if you
copy it to HFS it will also fail.

What RECFM is the dataset?  If it is RECFM=F*, maybe it has extra
bytes in the last record, in which case unzip probably won't like it.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Vikesh Bhoolavbho...@sars.gov.za wrote:
 Kirk, thanks for your response.
 I tried
 fromdsn -b //DD:IN   |
   unzip -p /dev/fd0  |
   todsn -s ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 //DD:OUT

 and get the following :

 CoZBatchÝN¨: Copyright (C) 2005-2009 Dovetailed Technologies LLC. All rights 
 res
 CoZBatchÝN¨: version 1.3.0 2009-06-11
 CoZBatchÝI¨: executing progname=login-shell=-/bin/sh
 Ý/dev/fd0¨
  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive.
 todsn(DD:OUT)ÝE¨: error: no input data available
 CEE5213S The signal SIGPIPE was received.
 CoZBatchÝI¨: returning rc=exitcode=103


 Thanks for all the help,
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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Vikesh Bhoola
File is 
Record format . . . : U
Record length . . . : 0
Block size  . . . . : 27920


Copied the file to HFS and unzipped it : 
userid:/tmp: unzip -l Report8.ZIP   
Archive:  Report8.ZIP   
  Length  DateTimeName  
-  -- -     
   138586  06-02-2009 12:55   userid/BKSADD.REPORT 
- ---   
   138586 1 file

userid:/tmp: unzip Report8.ZIP   
Archive:  Report8.ZIP
  inflating: userid/BKSADD.REPORT   

So the file does unzip.

Thanks for your assistance.

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:19:57 -0600, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG) wrote:

I have often wondered about the legality of turning other engines on on
an owned machine. They were delivered as part of what was bought, should
they be ours to do with as we please?

Sure feels that way.  But it might void the warranty or IBM's
maintenance contract.

We use 3rd party maintenance on or processor (government competitive
bid). When IBM offered an IFL to use for a z/VM and z/Linux proof of
concept project, IBM sent people to turn on and off the IFL - i.e. IBM
installed the enabling microcode, they would not deliver it to the 3rd
party.

And that enabling microcode is likely licensed, not sold.  Now, if
a third party vendor (zPrime?) could develop enabling microcode without
infringing IBM's IP ...

I think I can guess how Microsoft feels about Windows customers'
using OpenOffice.org rather than MS Office.  Apparently they can't
prevent it.

OTOH, Apple lately released iTunes 8.2.1, for which the release
notes state, iTunes 8.2.1 provides a number of important bug fixes
and addresses an issue with verification of Apple devices.
I.e. it now blocks synching with Palm Pre.  But there are already
third party workarounds.

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Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey Authentication and only use Password?

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Post
 On 7/17/2009 at 11:41 AM, McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: 
-snip-
 And doesn't this require that you not have a passphrase? I have used Co:Z in 
 the past to schedule work on my Linux box via SSH from a batch job. But I had 
 to create a keyfile with no passphrase on it.

Yes, so you need to make sure the private key is well protected by your ESM.


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Re: DEFINING USERCAT WITH GUARANTEED SPACE

2009-07-17 Thread Neil Duffee
At July 17, 2009 07:36, concerning Re: DEFINING USERCAT WITH 
GUARANTEED SPACE, esmie moo esmi...@yah...ca wrote (to IBM-Main):

 [snip] If I disable the current volume (which SMS managed) then there
 could be a problem with allocation of dsns on that given volume.
 [snip] 

VARY SMS,VOLUME(PLAN906),DISABLE,NEW 
- only disallows new allocations
- how to stop a volume from being used 
- might also affect Guaranteed requests: testing required

VARY SMS,VOLUME(PLAN906),QUIESCE,NEW 
- makes volume less preferred (2nd tier) for new allocations
- volume can still be chosen if no eligible 1st tier candidates

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:26:17 -0400, Bob Shannon
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:


A complete set of PUs, 10, 12, 16 or whatever the current number is, is
shipped with the processor. If you pay for one should be able to hot-wire
the others so that you can use them? Specialty engines were sold to run
eligible work. From IBM's standpoint eligible work is a subset of all the
work on the machine. If you decide to expand the definition of eligible
work without IBM's agreement, in my opinion you are staling resources.
This is no different than bypassing the electric meter in your house.

Trying to enable  10;12 or 16 pu's that I did not pay for would definitely
be illegal  even if they were shipped. But I never implied such thing.  
zIIP and zAAP are a different matter , they are purchased and belong to the
customer.
IBM will provide it free of charge shall the customer order a new machine.
Expanding the definition or eligible work was not my intention either. I
was just merely trying to find the definition . I did not find one . ( i am
not an ISV , just a customer) . Could someone point me to a url ?
TIA  

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Bob Woodside
On Friday 17 July 2009, Kirk Wolf wrote:
 Looks like unzip doesn't like your input data.   I'll bet that if you
 copy it to HFS it will also fail.

Kirk  --

Yes, it will. The problem is that my current patch is very badly 
borken [sic].  :-(. 

 What RECFM is the dataset?  If it is RECFM=F*, maybe it has extra
 bytes in the last record, in which case unzip probably won't like it.

This version of MVS unzip just sings ...and I don't like anybody 
very much! no matter what you feed it. I've tried it against a bunch 
of zip files, old and new, always with the same result as Vikesh gets.

So far I've tracked it down to the fact that unzip isn't finding the 
file size correctly - everything goes downhill from there. Somewhere 
there is still an incompatible mix of 32-bit and 64-bit functions that 
I haven't located yet.

Vikesh  --

Would a version of bzip2 help you out for the time being? I had just 
done a z/OS USS port of the latest version (1.0.5) earlier this week, 
before you reported the unzip problem. It supports large files, and 
appears to be working well. I think it might work for you in 
conjunction with Kirk's utilities.

The old version of bzip2 that used to be available from IBM has been 
withdrawn; I don't know what version it was or whether it supported 
large files. There is now a supported version which you have to pay 
for, and looks to be heavily modified by IBM - mainly to provide 
IBM-style messages, as far as I can tell. I can't imaginw wanting such 
a beast, but that's the subject of a different thread!

I suggest this because I've no idea when I'll be able to fix the 
unzip patch.

By the way, if you haven't done so, would you please post your 
problem to the Info-ZIP form as well?


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Re: REXX and BPXWDYN

2009-07-17 Thread Neal Eckhardt
Thar helped a lot. Thanks

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
Why not use the jar command in z/UNIX? It is basically a zip/unzip type 
program. That is, it will unzip a .zip file and will create a .zip file as well 
as a .jar file. Actually, a .jar file __is__ a .zip file. Just with special 
files inside it such as the manifest et al.

And I am fairly sure that it can legally and morally be run on a zAAP.

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Re: IECIOSxx - suggested entries

2009-07-17 Thread Edward Jaffe

R.S. wrote:
However I have *empty* IECIOSxx (with the exception for single MIH 
entry). Maybe it's bad? Maybe I should have some entries in IECIOS, 
like MIDAW, FICON, etc. ?


FWIW, mine contains:

MIH MOUNTMSG=YES  /* RECEIVE MOUNT MESSAGES */
CAPTUCB PROTECT=YES   /* PROTECT CAPTURED UCBS */
STORAGE IOSBLKS=31/* 31-BIT CONTROL BLOCKS */
HYPERPAV=YES  /* USE HYPERPAV IF AVAILABLE */
MIDAW=YES /* USE MIDAWS WHERE AVAILABLE */
ZHPF=YES  /* USE ZHPF WHERE AVAILABLE */

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Bob Woodside
On Friday 17 July 2009, Ed Finnell wrote:
 In a message dated 7/17/2009 8:01:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

 ibm-m...@tpg.com.au writes:
   http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/%27HTTPD2.PT217.HTML(INDEX)%27

 Thanks for  the attempt Alan, but I wonder how many of the unwashed
 masses have access  to that page.

 Haven't bathed today, but it popped right up.

I've showered, but I still had to copy/paste the url into my browser 
to get it to work. My mail client (KMail) didn't feed the full string 
to the browser (Konqueror) when I just clicked on it.

I do have to opine that it's a pretty lame sort of url.


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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:01:53 -0500, McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com
wrote:

Why not use the jar command in z/UNIX? It is basically a zip/unzip type
program. That is, it will unzip a .zip file and will create a .zip file as
well as a .jar file. Actually, a .jar file __is__ a .zip file. Just with
special files inside it such as the manifest et al.

And I am fairly sure that it can legally and morally be run on a zAAP.

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I love it :-))

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Bob Woodside
On Friday 17 July 2009, McKown, John wrote:
 Why not use the jar command in z/UNIX? It is basically a zip/unzip
 type program. That is, it will unzip a .zip file and will create a
 .zip file as well as a .jar file. Actually, a .jar file __is__ a .zip
 file. Just with special files inside it such as the manifest et al.

 And I am fairly sure that it can legally and morally be run on a
 zAAP.

The question is whether jar can support the Zip64 file format, and 
hence can support archives that can 1) be larger than 4 GB, and 2) 
contain individual files that are larger than 4 GB.

As far as I know, Zip64 support is only available in the latest Sun 
beta of JDK7. Is my info not up to date?

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Woodside
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:08 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: INFOZIP 2Gb
 
 On Friday 17 July 2009, McKown, John wrote:
  Why not use the jar command in z/UNIX? It is basically a zip/unzip
  type program. That is, it will unzip a .zip file and will create a
  .zip file as well as a .jar file. Actually, a .jar file 
 __is__ a .zip
  file. Just with special files inside it such as the 
 manifest et al.
 
  And I am fairly sure that it can legally and morally be run on a
  zAAP.
 
 The question is whether jar can support the Zip64 file 
 format, and 
 hence can support archives that can 1) be larger than 4 GB, and 2) 
 contain individual files that are larger than 4 GB.
 
 As far as I know, Zip64 support is only available in the 
 latest Sun 
 beta of JDK7. Is my info not up to date?
 
 Cheers,
 Bob

Well, this likely doesn't help. But on my Linux/Intel system, I created a text 
file which was 4.7 Gb (5,033,145,276 bytes). I used the jar command to create a 
.zip file which was 260Mb (272,331,844 bytes) in size. I am running the 
IcedTea version of Java on my Linux system, which is 1.6.0 .

Unfortunately, I cannot test on z/OS as I just can't get that much storage.

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Woodside
 
 [ snip ]
 
 The old version of bzip2 that used to be available from IBM has
been
 withdrawn; I don't know what version it was or whether it supported
 large files. There is now a supported version which you have to pay
 for, and looks to be heavily modified by IBM - mainly to provide
 IBM-style messages, as far as I can tell. I can't imaginw wanting such
 a beast, but that's the subject of a different thread!

Well, bzip2 from IBM is now a part of the Licensed Program Product
called IBM Ported Tools or similar, but it's a no-charge product;
i.e., you do have to license it now, but it still doesn't cost any
money.

-jc-

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Bob Woodside
On Friday 17 July 2009, McKown, John wrote:
  -Original Message-
 
      The question is whether jar can support the Zip64 file
  format, and
  hence can support archives that can 1) be larger than 4 GB, and 2)
  contain individual files that are larger than 4 GB.
 
      As far as I know, Zip64 support is only available in the
  latest Sun beta of JDK7. Is my info not up to date?
 
 Well, this likely doesn't help. But on my Linux/Intel system, I
 created a text file which was 4.7 Gb (5,033,145,276 bytes). I used
 the jar command to create a .zip file which was 260Mb (272,331,844
 bytes) in size. I am running the IcedTea version of Java on my
 Linux system, which is 1.6.0 .

Good to know - guess my info *is* out of date. I'll have to try this 
out.


 Unfortunately, I cannot test on z/OS as I just can't get that much
 storage.

I know the problem well.


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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
I agree.  bzip2 or gzip seem like much better choices than zip.
AFAIK, zip files have a directory at the end of the archive with a
pointer to the end at the very beginning.   This might explain why
unzip is failing with pipes or special files.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Chase, Johnjch...@ussco.com wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Woodside

 [ snip ]

     The old version of bzip2 that used to be available from IBM has
 been
 withdrawn; I don't know what version it was or whether it supported
 large files. There is now a supported version which you have to pay
 for, and looks to be heavily modified by IBM - mainly to provide
 IBM-style messages, as far as I can tell. I can't imaginw wanting such
 a beast, but that's the subject of a different thread!

 Well, bzip2 from IBM is now a part of the Licensed Program Product
 called IBM Ported Tools or similar, but it's a no-charge product;
 i.e., you do have to license it now, but it still doesn't cost any
 money.

    -jc-

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Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 17 Jul 2009 06:30:15 -0700,
ibm...@woodsway.com (Bob Woodside) wrote:

 For reference,
 http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/%27HTTPD2.PT217.HTML(INDEX)%27

This link appears borken.  :-(

That may be an issue with your news reader or e-mail client. I follow
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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Re: INFOZIP 2Gb
 
 I agree.  bzip2 or gzip seem like much better choices than zip.
 AFAIK, zip files have a directory at the end of the archive with a
 pointer to the end at the very beginning.   This might explain why
 unzip is failing with pipes or special files.

The jar command, which process what really is a .zip file, specifically says 
that it can do an eXtract from stdin. It can also output to stdout. Example 
(from Linux)

===
[john.mck...@it-mckownjohn2 ~]$ jar c base.init.plsql.bkup x.zip
[john.mck...@it-mckownjohn2 ~]$ cat x.zip | jar t
META-INF/
META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
base.init.plsql.bkup
===

I don't know if this means that the jar command, in this instance, buffers the 
entire file in memory or not.

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-07-17 Thread Bob Woodside
On Friday 17 July 2009, Kirk Wolf wrote:
 I agree.  bzip2 or gzip seem like much better choices than zip.
 AFAIK, zip files have a directory at the end of the archive with a
 pointer to the end at the very beginning.   This might explain why
 unzip is failing with pipes or special files.

Well, yes and no. It fails with a regular zip file as input, even a 
small one. There's a bug somewhere in my code - it isn't picking up the 
length of the file correctly, hence it doesn't now how much to read to 
look for the directory signatures. Maybe this weekend I'll have time to 
track it down.


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3174-1 pack system

2009-07-17 Thread Ron Wells
Ah remember (1) pack recovery system...
Looking at an alternative to needing (2) packs-with TCPIP/OMVS I need 
another volume..
Looking for an alternative to get my 3270-console without the need of 
tcpip amd all the uss files needed..

any one out there have any ideas...

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Re: Article Mainframe Stolen

2009-07-17 Thread Rick Fochtman

Paul Gilmartin wrote:


On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:46:40 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
 


The proliferation of the PC has resulted in another proliferation: that
of self-proclaimed experts that know next to nothing, but have loud
voices.

   


Ah, yes.  I suspect we're all nostalgic for the pre-PC proliferation
days when there were no self-proclaimed experts that knew next
to nothing, but had loud voices.
 


---unsnip---
We had them then, too. Just not so many and not so believable to the 
average news reader/watcher. The credibility of the so-called experts 
continues to grow as the gullibility of the average person continues to 
grow with it. Witness the growth of Identity Theft as more and more 
people shop online and respond to ads of questionable nature.


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Re: 3174-1 pack system

2009-07-17 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Wells
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:03 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: 3174-1 pack system
 
 Ah remember (1) pack recovery system...
 Looking at an alternative to needing (2) packs-with 
 TCPIP/OMVS I need 
 another volume..
 Looking for an alternative to get my 3270-console without the need of 
 tcpip amd all the uss files needed..
 
 any one out there have any ideas...

Use an OSA in ICC mode. In that mode, the OSA (which would be ethernet 
connected to your LAN) acts as a TN3270 server. On the z/OS side, it looks like 
a small local 3174. This does require genning the OSA as an ICC in your IODF / 
IOCDS. It also requires configuring the OSA from the HMC once it is in ICC 
mode. Or get a Visara or 2074 or FlexCUB (from funsoft.com) which are ESCON(?) 
attached and look like a 3174 to the host, but implement a TN3270 server in 
them.

Funsoft: http://www.funsoft.com/index-technical.html

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Re: 3174-1 pack system

2009-07-17 Thread Ron Wells
wanting not to load another pack for uss which is needed for tcpip..
guess only alternative is (2) pack or back to a cheap 3174



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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Wells
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:03 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: 3174-1 pack system
 
 Ah remember (1) pack recovery system...
 Looking at an alternative to needing (2) packs-with 
 TCPIP/OMVS I need 
 another volume..
 Looking for an alternative to get my 3270-console without the need of 
 tcpip amd all the uss files needed..
 
 any one out there have any ideas...

Use an OSA in ICC mode. In that mode, the OSA (which would be ethernet 
connected to your LAN) acts as a TN3270 server. On the z/OS side, it looks 
like a small local 3174. This does require genning the OSA as an ICC in 
your IODF / IOCDS. It also requires configuring the OSA from the HMC once 
it is in ICC mode. Or get a Visara or 2074 or FlexCUB (from funsoft.com) 
which are ESCON(?) attached and look like a 3174 to the host, but 
implement a TN3270 server in them.

Funsoft: http://www.funsoft.com/index-technical.html

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Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Rick Fochtman

Chase, John wrote:


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Klein, Kenneth

In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
common best practices?
Before every APPLY?
Never?
   



Our general ROT is to ACCEPT PTFs that have been running in the
production environment for 3 months or longer before APPLYing the next
round of preventive maintenance. APARs and USERMODs are *NEVER*
ACCEPTed.

   -jc-
 


unsnip
Pretty much the same attitude here. One variation: we don't apply APARs 
unless the need is severe and immediate; we'd rather wait for the PTF.


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Re: 3174-1 pack system

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:02:34 -0500, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com wrote:

Ah remember (1) pack recovery system...
Looking at an alternative to needing (2) packs-with TCPIP/OMVS I need
another volume..
Looking for an alternative to get my 3270-console without the need of
tcpip amd all the uss files needed..

any one out there have any ideas...


What do you use for production today?  If you have a 2074, OSA-ICC or
similar you can use that as a local 3270 console or VTAM terminal.

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Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Guy Gardoit
I've never seen the logic behind delaying the acceptance of a large round of
maintenance, say a quarterly RSU application.   Since PTF chains are usually
very long, the ability to RESTORE a single PTF becomes a daunting, if not
impossible task.  If there is a problem after a large maintenance run,
you're better off trying to find a fix for your problem than attempting to
RESTORE the 'bad'  PTF.  That's assuming of course that you stay a quarter
or two back-level in your RSU installations.

Hence, for large maintenance runs, I usually do an ACCEPT run a week or so
after the APPLY.   I see no advantage in delaying it.



On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote:

 Chase, John wrote:

  -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Klein, Kenneth

 In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
 delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
 common best practices?
 Before every APPLY?
 Never?



 Our general ROT is to ACCEPT PTFs that have been running in the
 production environment for 3 months or longer before APPLYing the next
 round of preventive maintenance. APARs and USERMODs are *NEVER*
 ACCEPTed.

   -jc-


 unsnip
 Pretty much the same attitude here. One variation: we don't apply APARs
 unless the need is severe and immediate; we'd rather wait for the PTF.

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Re: 3174-1 pack system

2009-07-17 Thread Ron Wells
Mark
trying to eliminate need for uss files needed for tcpipwhich is what 
will drive me to another volume..



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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:02:34 -0500, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com 
wrote:

Ah remember (1) pack recovery system...
Looking at an alternative to needing (2) packs-with TCPIP/OMVS I need
another volume..
Looking for an alternative to get my 3270-console without the need of
tcpip amd all the uss files needed..

any one out there have any ideas...


What do you use for production today?  If you have a 2074, OSA-ICC or
similar you can use that as a local 3270 console or VTAM terminal.

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Re: 3174-1 pack system

2009-07-17 Thread Clifford McNeill
Ron,

The ICC OSA is a self-contained TN3270 server, no z/OS TCPIP is needed.  You 
can connect as a console or a terminal.  The terminal uses only VTAM.

Clifford McNeill
 
 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:50:38 -0500
 From: rwe...@agfinance.com
 Subject: Re: 3174-1 pack system
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 Mark
 trying to eliminate need for uss files needed for tcpipwhich is what 
 will drive me to another volume..
 
 
 
 From:
 Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 To:
 IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Date:
 07/17/2009 03:37 PM
 Subject:
 Re: 3174-1 pack system
 Sent by:
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 On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:02:34 -0500, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com 
 wrote:
 
 Ah remember (1) pack recovery system...
 Looking at an alternative to needing (2) packs-with TCPIP/OMVS I need
 another volume..
 Looking for an alternative to get my 3270-console without the need of
 tcpip amd all the uss files needed..
 
 any one out there have any ideas...
 
 
 What do you use for production today? If you have a 2074, OSA-ICC or
 similar you can use that as a local 3270 console or VTAM terminal.
 
 Mark
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LE options

2009-07-17 Thread Frank Swarbrick
There appears to be (at least) two ways to change LE runtime options system 
wide.
There's the assember macro table way (CEEDOPT for batch and CEECOPT for CICS) 
and there's the PARMLIB(CEEPRM00) way.
Is one preferred over the other?  Does one offer something the other does not?  
I am thinking that the PARMLIB way allows for multiple systems to share the 
same LE libraries and still have different LE options, if desired.  Is this the 
reason for is its existence?  If we use the PARMLIB way is there anything that 
has to be done with the macros and can't be done with the PARMLIB?

Honestly, there are so many ways to change LE options that it's hard to keep 
them all straight!

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Re: LE options

2009-07-17 Thread Roland Schiradin
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:25:26 -0600, Frank Swarbrick 
frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote:

There are more ways (CEEROPT, CEEUOPT and more). Check the manuals 
for more details about the order of settings. Also understand the term 
LE enclave and how the LE options takes effect for some application especially 
under CICS. 

BTW: SHOWzOS shows the CEEDOPT and CEEPRMxx settings

Roland


There appears to be (at least) two ways to change LE runtime options 
system wide.
There's the assember macro table way (CEEDOPT for batch and CEECOPT for 
CICS) and there's the PARMLIB(CEEPRM00) way.
Is one preferred over the other?  Does one offer something the other does 
not?  I am thinking that the PARMLIB way allows for multiple systems to share 
the same LE libraries and still have different LE options, if desired.  Is this 
the 
reason for is its existence?  If we use the PARMLIB way is there anything that 
has to be done with the macros and can't be done with the PARMLIB?

Honestly, there are so many ways to change LE options that it's hard to 
keep them all straight!


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MVS/380 1.0 and VM/380 1.0 now available

2009-07-17 Thread Paul Edwards
The Hercules community is pleased to announce the
availability of two new freely-available operating
systems that provide 31-bit programming capability.

Load modules can be developed and tested on these
environments and the binaries work unchanged (and
without requiring special alternate APIs or support
modules etc) on their z/OS and z/VM big brothers.

Both are available from:

http://mvs380.sourceforge.net

An example of such a 31-bit program is GCCMVS,
the GCC C compiler (fully C90 compliant) ported to 
MVS and CMS, and it comes bundled with the operating
systems. It is also available as a separate product
suitable for direct loading on z/OS and z/VM. See here:

http://gccmvs.sourceforge.net

There's also a stack of useful utilities there,
e.g. diff3 (a 3-way diff - one of the great
breakthroughs in computer science). These utilities
have been precompiled as part of MVS/380 and VM/380.

The port of GCC is dependent on the public domain
(not GPL) C runtime library PDPCLIB (also fully
C90 compliant). That is available here:

http://pdos.sourceforge.net

Other utilities include bwBASIC, BREXX, bison,
sed, flex, m4, patch, minizip. There are also
specialized batch files to assist in targetting
the mainframe platforms from a PC.

The S/380 platforms have quite a lot of development
activity taking place (e.g. a DFDSS-compatible dump
program) to push these platforms forward. Come and
join us over at:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-os380

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Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:48:42 -0700, Guy Gardoit ggard...@gmail.com wrote:

I've never seen the logic behind delaying the acceptance of a large round of
maintenance, say a quarterly RSU application.   Since PTF chains are usually
very long, the ability to RESTORE a single PTF becomes a daunting, if not
impossible task.  If there is a problem after a large maintenance run,
you're better off trying to find a fix for your problem than attempting to
RESTORE the 'bad'  PTF.  That's assuming of course that you stay a quarter
or two back-level in your RSU installations.

Hence, for large maintenance runs, I usually do an ACCEPT run a week or so
after the APPLY.   I see no advantage in delaying it.



I'll *strongly* disgree with you there.   You need to wait on the order of
months
most likely, not weeks.

There is always away to back out the maintenance.   Sometimes it's a pain
because there is no GROUPEXTEND for restore, but using the RESTORE report
you can always figure out what to add in addition to what you are trying to
restore (then you have to re-apply what you can).  Or sometimes you only
have to accept a PTF or 2 in the chain and then restore the PE.  

What's scary to me is the number of PTFs that go PE after they've gone
though all the CST testing and have been distributed on a quarterly RSU.
Or perhaps worse, a HIPER comes out and then it goes PE several weeks
later.   I follow ASAP very closely and see this all the time.

This is why we stay an entire quarter behind the current quarterly RSU 
for our normal maintenance cycle (see past posts of mine on this).  But 
doing that also means some extra work looking at more current maintenance
(from ASAP alerts) and picking and choosing some PTFs that I think could
be a problem for our environment and getting them on now.

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