Re: how to identify members that DO NOT contain a string
To explain this trick a little more: putting your cursor on a column header and pressing Enter sort the list on that item. This again is a short form of the sort prompt (or any other column) command. Kees. Hardee, Charles H charles.har...@ca.com wrote in message news:e1d3f3180c8e6f49b6deab25488ecb9b07fc6...@usilms11.ca.com... Jim, Move your cursor down to the column header, Prompt and press enter. This tells ISPF you want the member list sorted on the Prompt column. Menu Functions Confirm Utilities Help -- EDIT H30D.TEMP.PDEFLIBString(s) found Command === Scroll === CSR +---Put cursor on this word V Name Prompt Size Created Changed ID It's like looking at the member list and asking Who's been updated recently?. To do that you bring up the member list, put your cursor on the column header, Changed and pressing enter. Of course this sort would be dependent on whether ISPF statistics are on or not. Chuck Charles Hardee CA technologies Sr Sustaining Engineer Tel: +1-952-838-1039 charles.har...@ca.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: how to identify members that DO NOT contain a string On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Hardee, Charles H charles.har...@ca.comwrote: Jim, How do you want to see the results? For instance, open the PDS using ISPF/Edit or View and then type SRCHFOR string where string is what you want to find, then hit ENTER. The resulting scan will place *Found in the prompt column. Place your cursor on the Column header, Prompt and press enter. This will bring all members to the top that contain the string. Go to the last member which has *Found beside it and starting with the next member, you have a list of members that do not contain the string. Will this work? Chuck Charles Hardee CA technologies Sr Sustaining Engineer Tel: +1-952-838-1039 charles.har...@ca.com Chuck, I'm a little confused regarding your suggestion. I've issued the srchfor command and the resultant screen looks like this - Menu Functions Confirm Utilities Help -- EDIT H30D.TEMP.PDEFLIBString(s) found Command === Scroll === CSR Name Prompt Size Created Changed ID _ BDZG *Found _ BDZJ _ BDZK _ BDZN _ BDZO _ BDZR where do I position the cursor for the next stage. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: It's escaped ...
My first glance impression is: a new campaign has started with letter 1 of the FUD strategy...;-) Kees. Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlktimdg7ovhd2cb5ujxnkipzi-0ra7jcj3gzkob...@mail.gmail.com... No... those are the z/VM developers pages, specifically Jim Elliott, in this case. Shane is referring to http://www.ibm.ca. ca for Canada... On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/21/2010 10:47:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ibm-m...@tpg.com.au writes: The IBM Canada home page is all dressed up with nowhere to go ... You mean thees ones... _http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/_ (http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to identify members that DO NOT contain a string
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/7/21 Ayhan Yalkut ayhan.yal...@halkbank.com.tr Hi Jim, you can use ISPF 3.15 option. Only difference from normal usage is that you have to enter LNFMTO parameter on Proces Option line. This usage gives you all members name that do not contain any particular string. Best Regards... Thanks all. The LNFMTO option did exactly what I wanted. Jim McAlpine Isn't ISRSUPC great, full of many great little gems like this. I'll have to get round to RTFM one of these days. Having said that, I got the answer I wanted from the list in a matter of minutes which is also great. Thanks to all. BTW, does anyone know what LNFMTO stands for ? Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Calculate maximum directory blocks of PDS
Hi, Is there any way to calculate maximum directory blocks using VTOC information? I need the value that is displayed in ISPF Data Set Information dialog. This value can be accessed using LISTDSI but I don't want to create TSO/ISPF environment. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to identify members that DO NOT contain a string
Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlktimkjulepvcltvzvfaagmj8sj-ynetmvzog15...@mail.gmail.com... On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/7/21 Ayhan Yalkut ayhan.yal...@halkbank.com.tr Hi Jim, you can use ISPF 3.15 option. Only difference from normal usage is that you have to enter LNFMTO parameter on Proces Option line. This usage gives you all members name that do not contain any particular string. Best Regards... Thanks all. The LNFMTO option did exactly what I wanted. Jim McAlpine Isn't ISRSUPC great, full of many great little gems like this. I'll have to get round to RTFM one of these days. Having said that, I got the answer I wanted from the list in a matter of minutes which is also great. Thanks to all. BTW, does anyone know what LNFMTO stands for ? Jim McAlpine Guessing from the other options: LTO: List Total summary Only, LMTO: List Member Totals Only, possibly LNFMTO: List Not Found Members Totals Only. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSSO - Hardcoded Offsets - Etc
I worked with Bill and Carl at PRC in the 80's. I was brought on to move them from the old 7000 (3033 look-alike) to a 4300 and go from MVS to MVS/SP. I was amazed at the amount of code installed on the internal PRC system (which operated as a service bureau), and tried to absorb as much from Carl (who came back to the main site after I completed the conversion and was there until I left a few years later) and Bill (who seemed to come and go at will from a lot of PRC contracts). I spent more time reworking and enhancing the old system mods and utility code than it took to convert the entire site to MVS/SP, but I loved every minute of it. Much of what I know about the operating system internals I have to credit to Carl, I wonder if he is still around and driving that crappy Yugo? Brian Westerman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSSO problems
Okay, Sorry, I didn't intend to interfere with your problem. The first issue I see is that if R12 were really clobbered, the error routine that you go to on a post failure would be the least of your worries. :) R12 isn't destroyed, what made you think it was? I think you probably aren't looking at the correct entries for the post macro in the manual. It clearly states: For LINKAGE=SVC, (this is the default and the one we are using in TSSO) . For SVC callers, registers 2-14 are preserved. In this particular case (fun9post) doing nothing on an error is acceptable, if (for any reason) we just failed to post, what else would you want TSSO to do in that case? I guess we could send a message, but what would the user do about it? On the other issue (possible offset conflict), I will look into it and get back to you as I have to re-assemble things to get a set of listings, unless you don't want my help, and if not, let me know so I don't waste my time. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Channel performance/load data from RM
Hi If someone maybe knows how to get some channel performance data from Resource Manager. See the CMCT etc. control blocks, but till now don't know how to interpret this. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
REXX / TBDISPL Help
Hi, I have a program that reads some data and creates a table using the TBx services. All is mostly ok but I cannot seem to get the TBDISPL service to display from anything other than the top of the table. The program only displays data, nothing is selectable. I use TBDISPL with the Panel option using the standard )MODEL layout for each row of the table. Basically my program displays a list of data with decimal values, when I press enter it toggles between decimal and hex the problem is that when I do press enter the TBDISPL always starts at the top. What I would like to be able to do is to be able to page down to the relevant part of the display and press enter and have the display stay on the same page. Any ideas on how this could be achieved, I have RTFM'd and messed about with all the row saving stuff etc and I haven't got anywhere. Thanks for your help Gerry Anstey This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: It's escaped ...
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:47:43 +1000, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: Seems Jim couldn't keep the lid on things. The IBM Canada home page is all dressed up with nowhere to go ... :0) Shane ... See http://ibm.com/systems/zenterprise -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Calculate maximum directory blocks of PDS
Is there any way to calculate maximum directory blocks using VTOC
information?
I understand you want it programmatically. If REXX is an option,
here is one that does not need ISPF:
/* REXX */
newstack
alloc f(IN) da('your-pds-data-set-name'),
dsorg(PS) recfm(F) lrecl(256) blksize(256) shr
execio * diskr IN (finis
free f(IN)
say Number of directory blocks: queued()
delstack
return
This will return the (fixed) number of allocated directory blocks
for a real PDS and the (simulated) current number for a PDSE.
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Re: Calculate maximum directory blocks of PDS
Hi Peter,
It works.
Thanks a lot :)
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote:
Is there any way to calculate maximum directory blocks using VTOC
information?
I understand you want it programmatically. If REXX is an option,
here is one that does not need ISPF:
/* REXX */
newstack
alloc f(IN) da('your-pds-data-set-name'),
dsorg(PS) recfm(F) lrecl(256) blksize(256) shr
execio * diskr IN (finis
free f(IN)
say Number of directory blocks: queued()
delstack
return
This will return the (fixed) number of allocated directory blocks
for a real PDS and the (simulated) current number for a PDSE.
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Re: CICS OPENAPI
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:15:00 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: Naive question, perhaps... Is OPENAPI and THREADSAFE required for a CICS region to use more than one CPU? I think CICS is using all CPUs it can get his hands on. The CICS region is competing for resources, just like any other work in MVS. Whether a single application program within your CICS will use more than one CPU at any given moment in time, is entirely up to the design and implementation of your application code... Why not ask the question over on CICS-L? You will get better quality answers than mine. Cheers, Jantje. P.S. Look at http://cicswiki.org/cicswiki1/index.php?title=CICS_List if you need to subscribe to CICS-L -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX / TBDISPL Help
We would need to look at you code, but the issue is to set CRP properly. By the way, there is a REXX list. On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:00:14 +0100 Gerry Anstey gerry.ans...@jpmorgan.com wrote: :Hi, I have a program that reads some data and creates a table using the TBx services. All is mostly ok but I cannot seem to get the TBDISPL service to display from anything other than the top of the table. The program only displays data, nothing is selectable. I use TBDISPL with the Panel option using the standard )MODEL layout for each row of the table. Basically my program displays a list of data with decimal values, when I press enter it toggles between decimal and hex the problem is that when I do press enter the TBDISPL always starts at the top. : :What I would like to be able to do is to be able to page down to the relevant part of the display and press enter and have the display stay on the same page. : :Any ideas on how this could be achieved, I have RTFM'd and messed about with all the row saving stuff etc and I haven't got anywhere. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX / TBDISPL Help
Try something like this. In REXX for simplification. ztdtop = 0 do forever TBSKIP TABNAME(ztdtop) TBDISPL TABNAME PANEL(TBPANEL) if rc 0 then leave end Gerry Anstey wrote: Hi, I have a program that reads some data and creates a table using the TBx services. All is mostly ok but I cannot seem to get the TBDISPL service to display from anything other than the top of the table. The program only displays data, nothing is selectable. I use TBDISPL with the Panel option using the standard )MODEL layout for each row of the table. Basically my program displays a list of data with decimal values, when I press enter it toggles between decimal and hex the problem is that when I do press enter the TBDISPL always starts at the top. What I would like to be able to do is to be able to page down to the relevant part of the display and press enter and have the display stay on the same page. Any ideas on how this could be achieved, I have RTFM'd and messed about with all the row saving stuff etc and I haven't got anywhere. Thanks for your help Gerry Anstey This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: History of Hard-coded Offsets
I think the first stored program computer was programmed in binary with hard coded offsets, and programmers have continued doing it ever since. There was a book called Psychology of Computer Programming that talked about Magic numbers which almost all programs have where the reader or maintenance programmer must study the context to try and determine the intent of the original programmer and then determine the side affects of any changes. Popular magic numbers include 0, 1, 10, 16, 72, 80, 100, 256, etc. One interesting story in the book was about researching why a file maintenace COBOL program has code like IF RECORD(43:1) = 'C' THEN MOVE '1' TO RECORD(43:1). This statement immediately followed read of 80 byte record. Upon further research with older staff members, it turns out there was an IBM 026 keypunch in the data entry department that had a sticky key in column 43 causing 1 to end up as A character. Rather than repunch hundreds of cards, the programmer called in to help resolve the file maintenance edit errors, decided the quick and dirty solution was to add the above statment to the file maintenace program. Quick and dirty programming is a good thing when it gets a required job with a fixed deadline done ontime. The bad part comes later when the dirty code is not adequately documented or simply thrown away. I've seen a lot of quick and dirty code that would have been a lot cheaper to throw away and rewrite in proper form with adequate documentation than to try and maintain over the years. Don Higgins d...@higgins.net -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: It's escaped ...
Pity the datasheet link is still broken - as it was earlier in the day on the .ca site prior to the announcement. Shane ... On Thu, Jul 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Jim Elliott, IBM wrote: See http://ibm.com/systems/zenterprise -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: AXR04 on z/OS 1.11
FORCE ... ARM is less dangerous than just FORCE ..., thus making a miskeying dangerous. There is little if any legitimate possibility of miskeying danger. You cannot issue FORCE wthout ARM without having tried to cancel the space first. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NFS
Thought I'd post here as well.. trying to get following to function and I guess not understanding exports... any help will be appreciated.. have following specified in NFSATTR security(safexp,safexp,safexp) mvssec/hfs/pub are set to (sys) Wanting to ensure MVSLOGIN being enforced/used by clients...as well as password prompting.. From what I see/read there is a way to allow a client/host to access files/directories but it turns off saf/racf verification altogether?? is there some way..and maybe I am missing it, to allow a client/host to a specific dir. tree setup but still prompt for userid/psw ? and all others denied access? or is this or can be setup in racf ... we are at z/os 1.11.. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: AXR04 on z/OS 1.11
Peter Relson pisze: FORCE ... ARM is less dangerous than just FORCE ..., thus making a miskeying dangerous. There is little if any legitimate possibility of miskeying danger. You cannot issue FORCE wthout ARM without having tried to cancel the space first. Last, but not least: Professionalist should know the commands he uses, and there are OPERCMDS profiles for others. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM zEnterprise
Hi everyone, I just got back from IBM’s announcement of the next mainframe. It’s called the zEnterprise or z196 or 2817. Up to 80 available CP’s Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Lots of other neat stuff. More information at www.ibm.com/systems/zenterprisehttp://www.ibm.com/systems/zenterprise Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM zEnterprise
There is even a (draft) redbook about it already: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg247832.html?Open Regards, Erik. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Namens gad...@malam.com Verzonden: donderdag 22 juli 2010 14:50 Aan: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Onderwerp: IBM zEnterprise snip It’s called the zEnterprise or z196 or 2817. /snip לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Using ISHELL to change the mount mode on the shared plex root?
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:29:52 -0500, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: If you have an established set of sysres sets you swap between and don't need to create a new directory in the root, then it can be RO now. If you are going to IPL from a new sysres set, then you would need to change the sysplex root to R/W prior to that IPL so the new version directory / mount point can be created in the sysplex root. After that, you can change it back to read only. By the way, if you're using NEWROOT for planned D/R situations, the Sysplex root *must* be R/O, else OMVS fails it with message BPXF243E. We're not 1.11, so I haven't looked at whether ALTROOT for unplanned outages has the same requirement. Regards, Art Gutowski Ford Motor Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
zEnterprise - new PoPS?
I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories: High-word facility Interlocked-access facility Load/Store on condition facility Distinct operands facility Integer to/from floating point conversions PER zero address detect Decimal floating point quantum exceptions New crypto functions and modes Virtual architectural level Non-quiescing SSKe Anybody know if a new PoPS documenting these exists anywhere? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
System x and Power 7?
Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
In short: System p RS6000 System i AS/400 System x x86 blades (pc architecture) So the zBM extentions will first support running AIX workloads and somewhere next year support for running x86 linux will be added. I saw mentioned somewhere that there will be no support for windows running on the x86 blades... Erik. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Namens Steve Comstock Verzonden: donderdag 22 juli 2010 16:31 Aan: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Onderwerp: System x and Power 7? Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
system x blades are Intel x86_64 processors: I.e. Windows Linux/Intel stuff Power7 is the latest RS/6000 processor incarnation - AIX. The AS/400 stuff also runs on Power7 processors, but apparently is not supported in this announcement. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: System x and Power 7? Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?
According to the product announcement: The following publications will be available at planned availability in the *Library* section of Resource Link: Application Programming Interfaces for Java (API-JAVA)Application Programming Interfaces (SB10-7030)Capacity on Demand User's Guide (SC28-2605)Common Information Model (CIM) Management Interface (SB10-7154)Hardware Management Console Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6895)Parts Catalog (GC28-6898)SCSI IPL - Machine Loader Messages (SC28-6839)Service Guide for HMCs and SEs (GC28-6861)Stand-Alone IOCP User's Guide (SB10-7152)Support Element Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6896)OSA-Express Customer's Guide and Reference (SA22-7935)OSA-Express3 Integrated Console Controller Dual-Port User's Guide (SC23-2266)Coupling Links I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0395)ESCON and FICON CTC Reference (SB10-7034)ESCON I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0394)Fiber Optic Cleaning Procedures (SY27-2604)Fibre Channel Connection (FICON) I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA24-7172)Maintenance Information for Fiber Optic Links (SY27-2597)Planning for Fiber Optic Links (GA23-0367)z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832)z/Architecture Reference Summary (SA22-7871) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories: High-word facility Interlocked-access facility Load/Store on condition facility Distinct operands facility Integer to/from floating point conversions PER zero address detect Decimal floating point quantum exceptions New crypto functions and modes Virtual architectural level Non-quiescing SSKe Anybody know if a new PoPS documenting these exists anywhere? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
Basically the system x blades are x-series hardware in a blade format. This means wintel. We have a couple blade chasses sitting here with Intel-based blades in them, some running windows server, some running VMWare on them. Power 7 is the latest iteration of the power chip which is the RISC chip running AIX and i5/OS (or whatever they call it today). The power 7 is the replacement for both the old RS/600 and AS/400. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: System x and Power 7? Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
Well, for IBM to be able to run Windows on the x86 blades I would think that first there would have to be some sort of contractual agreement between IBM and Microsoft to license the Windows OS. That might be more difficult to accomplish that the technical aspects of the hardware itself. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Erik Janssen Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: System x and Power 7? In short: System p RS6000 System i AS/400 System x x86 blades (pc architecture) So the zBM extentions will first support running AIX workloads and somewhere next year support for running x86 linux will be added. I saw mentioned somewhere that there will be no support for windows running on the x86 blades... Erik. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Namens Steve Comstock Verzonden: donderdag 22 juli 2010 16:31 Aan: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Onderwerp: System x and Power 7? Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any ROT for DASD Response time
Short answer: yes. And you go on to agree. Let's take a look at the OP's issue: Not meeting SLA's. A logical first place to look is DASD, and we find 'delays'. What kind of delay and how long of a delay we don't know. The question is how long of a delay is normal and to be expected. A ROT for an acceptable range. I find it a little hard to believe that a DASD subsystem can deliver 0.3ms response times with measurable delays. Therefore, IMHO, any measurable delay should be investigated and, if feasible, reduced. To zero. Of course, I/O avoidance is almost always something we want to consider. But that does not address the OP's question. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any ROT for DASD Response time Hal, Is that always true? If your application is getting 100% cache hits with 0.3ms response time, has a sub second service level, but issues 10,000 IO then there is no way you will meet your service level even though your response time is as near to perfect as it can be. The number of IO you can do can be as big a problem as the time the IO takes. Looking for some IO avoidance before handing over dollars for more cache, faster drives and SSD can will often result in improved Service Levels, while response stays the same, or even gets worse. It's all about reducing the net IO Time. For example a three level indexed KSDS can easily realize a 350-390% reduction in IO just by changing it to BLSR or SMB and using deferred writes. With that sort of saving would a DASD response time is 0.5ms or 10ms be important? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Any ROT for DASD Response time Point is that you are not meeting your SLA goals. If DASD response time is an issue, then it can be described as 'poor DASD performance'. It does not really matter what the response times are, the issue is that they are too slow. In this context a ROT for any delay would be zero, IMHO. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Any ROT for DASD Response time We are running an EMC DMX4500 shared with the open system side. MVS has 9TB and the open side has 500TB. So they win. We have points in time where our production application (DB2 Stored Procedures with Native SQL) has slow responses. The DBAs are using RMF and TMON (DB2 and MVS) to isolate the problem. However, they see DFHSM and say thats the problem. I think I am seeing delays on the dasd the DB2 system uses in RMF. But I am not sure how to interpret the numbers. Is there a ROT that says if the delay rate is ? then the dasd is poor performaing? Thanks Lizette NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
gssa started task - very high cpu utilization
This is my first post to this list. We are experiencing very high mips usage by a third party product - sysview/cacommon serices. Since I upgraded to Sysview 12.5 the GSSA(stc for common services) has been causing high spikes in cpu during various times of the day. Of course I am working this issue with the vendor but I thought someone may have experienced this at their site. We are running z/OS 1.10 - sysplex of 10 lpars, another with 7 and another with 3. Some of the cpus are z10s and a few are z9s. The previous releases did not cause any of these issues. Maybe there is a apar that someone knows of? Any help would be appreciated. Doug Oliverio z/OS Mainframe Engineering -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
From the announcement: POWER7 blades are supported in the zBX, providing logical device integration between System z and POWER7 for multi-tiered applications. POWER7 blades, along with PowerVM, are licensed separately and are enabled and managed, as part of the ensemble, by the Unified Resource Manager. For more information on POWER7 blades refer to IBM BladeCenter P701 and P702 Express® blades deliver world's first IBM POWER7 processor-based blades to the marketplace, Hardware Announcement 110-061, dated April 13, 2010. The POWER7 BladeCenter, along with PowerVM allows for both AIX and Linux images in a LPAR-ish environment. My guess is that the Unified Resource Manager seems to be a mash-up of the hardware virtualization environments of z and POWER7 BladeCenter. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:43 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: system x blades are Intel x86_64 processors: I.e. Windows Linux/Intel stuff Power7 is the latest RS/6000 processor incarnation - AIX. The AS/400 stuff also runs on Power7 processors, but apparently is not supported in this announcement. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: System x and Power 7? Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
Tom, How would you see it to be different from a regular System x BladeCenter? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: Well, for IBM to be able to run Windows on the x86 blades I would think that first there would have to be some sort of contractual agreement between IBM and Microsoft to license the Windows OS. That might be more difficult to accomplish that the technical aspects of the hardware itself. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Erik Janssen Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: System x and Power 7? In short: System p RS6000 System i AS/400 System x x86 blades (pc architecture) So the zBM extentions will first support running AIX workloads and somewhere next year support for running x86 linux will be added. I saw mentioned somewhere that there will be no support for windows running on the x86 blades... Erik. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Namens Steve Comstock Verzonden: donderdag 22 juli 2010 16:31 Aan: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Onderwerp: System x and Power 7? Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Tivoli Output Manager
We are in the process of implementing Tivoli Output Manager to replace RMDS. Any user experiences are welcome. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to identify members that DO NOT contain a string
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:27:28 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: To explain this trick a little more: putting your cursor on a column header and pressing Enter sort the list on that item. This again is a short form of the sort prompt (or any other column) command. And sort prompt is short form of sort prompt d. If you want to have the column sorted in ascending order then you need sort prompt a. After sorting you can move through that column with locate value, even locate ' ' works. At the same time the find command can be used to look for a substring in name column without changing the current sort order. -- Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any ROT for DASD Response time
Ask the DBA's why they say thats DFHSM causing the delay, are there recalls necessary for DB2 work ? What kind of delays do you see on the dasd volumes. What is causing the main delay according to RMF monitor 3 ? 2010/7/21 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com We are running an EMC DMX4500 shared with the open system side. MVS has 9TB and the open side has 500TB. So they win. We have points in time where our production application (DB2 Stored Procedures with Native SQL) has slow responses. The DBAs are using RMF and TMON (DB2 and MVS) to isolate the problem. However, they see DFHSM and say thats the problem. I think I am seeing delays on the dasd the DB2 system uses in RMF. But I am not sure how to interpret the numbers. Is there a ROT that says if the delay rate is ? then the dasd is poor performaing? Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Met vriendelijke groeten/With kind regards Dick de Groot -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any ROT for DASD Response time
ROT is not important now, the main problem you are having a performance problem and not meeting your SLA's. Important is to identify what is causing that problem. 2010/7/21 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com We are running an EMC DMX4500 shared with the open system side. MVS has 9TB and the open side has 500TB. So they win. We have points in time where our production application (DB2 Stored Procedures with Native SQL) has slow responses. The DBAs are using RMF and TMON (DB2 and MVS) to isolate the problem. However, they see DFHSM and say thats the problem. I think I am seeing delays on the dasd the DB2 system uses in RMF. But I am not sure how to interpret the numbers. Is there a ROT that says if the delay rate is ? then the dasd is poor performaing? Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Met vriendelijke groeten/With kind regards Dick de Groot -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
Well, maybe it wouldn't. I was just considering the seemingly ongoing conflict between the IBM mainframe and the Windows worlds. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: System x and Power 7? Tom, How would you see it to be different from a regular System x BladeCenter? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: Well, for IBM to be able to run Windows on the x86 blades I would think that first there would have to be some sort of contractual agreement between IBM and Microsoft to license the Windows OS. That might be more difficult to accomplish that the technical aspects of the hardware itself. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Erik Janssen Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: System x and Power 7? In short: System p RS6000 System i AS/400 System x x86 blades (pc architecture) So the zBM extentions will first support running AIX workloads and somewhere next year support for running x86 linux will be added. I saw mentioned somewhere that there will be no support for windows running on the x86 blades... Erik. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Namens Steve Comstock Verzonden: donderdag 22 juli 2010 16:31 Aan: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Onderwerp: System x and Power 7? Well, I'm following the new zEnterprise announcement and downloading docs as fast as I can. But I have a little problem with the nomenclature. I remember the days when there was the AS/400 and RS6000 and mainframes and PCs. Then came system i, p, x, and z, and I never really followed anything but the z series. Then IBM got rid of the PC division. But all I really follow is system z. Can someone describe the new system x blades and Power 7 blades in terms of the older systems? Just need some perspective on this. Thanks. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For
Re: System x and Power 7?
Kelman, Tom pisze: Well, for IBM to be able to run Windows on the x86 blades I would think that first there would have to be some sort of contractual agreement between IBM and Microsoft to license the Windows OS. That might be more difficult to accomplish that the technical aspects of the hardware itself. No. You can buy Windows license off-the shelf and use. No special agreement is needed. This is perfectly contrary to license z/OS for Hercules (running on other platform than zMachine). BTW: I see no reason to have Windows on PC, which is sold with mainframe. I can buy the PC and mainframe separately - and connect it if needed. The same apply to AIX and Linux (on Power or Intel/AMD) workloads. I wish I would be surprised with some revolutionary solution. BTW2: Many, many years ago Siemens had BS2000 machine with some Unix on RISC inside. One cabinet, two computers. Looks quite similar to blades sold with z196. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
From the redbook FAQ: Q: Will the zEnterprise System support for Microsoft Windows or IBM i OS operating systems? A: No, Windows or i OS are not supported at this time. IBM will initially support AIX, Linux on System x (SOD available 1H 2011) and optimizers through the zBX. Support for additional operating systems will be evaluated over time based on demand from our clients. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?
My two cents opinion, since z/VM and zLinux can be IPLed from a DVD (by my experience) I see no reason why you could not IPL z/OS from DVD. Of course as mentioned above, you must format the correct files on the DVD. Beside documentation you might want to look inside a zLinux (REDHAT or SUSE) DVD that is IPLable . Good luck. On 21 July 2010 17:19, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote: Alen. I don;t think z/Os has to do with this. This is a stand alone IPL. DSS S/A image can be generated as a card-reader image (F/80/80) which is also supported by tape (according to the manual). Anyway, the HMC does allow to load S/A utilities from CD, but it requires an INS file that points to the code to load. It look like you nbeed to be in a Single Operation Mode in order to use this function. ITschak On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:21:49 +0300, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote: During z/Linux installation it is possible to use the HMC's DVD drive as a tape drive. I wonder is DSS S/A can be started (Loaded) from same device and not from a IOCP defined device. Unless z/OS specifically provides support to do that, no. It takes coding changes to support boot from DVD (it's not an IPL operation). Creating a DVD that the HMC will understand and load isn't hard (look at the root directory of the Linux DVD), but getting it to work after it's been loaded is up to the code itself. Alan Altmark z/VM Development, IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?
POPS for the Z196 is not there yet. Just a handful there now (CHPID Mapping, Install Manual, PS/SM Guide, etc Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS? According to the product announcement: The following publications will be available at planned availability in the *Library* section of Resource Link: Application Programming Interfaces for Java (API-JAVA)Application Programming Interfaces (SB10-7030)Capacity on Demand User's Guide (SC28-2605)Common Information Model (CIM) Management Interface (SB10-7154)Hardware Management Console Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6895)Parts Catalog (GC28-6898)SCSI IPL - Machine Loader Messages (SC28-6839)Service Guide for HMCs and SEs (GC28-6861)Stand-Alone IOCP User's Guide (SB10-7152)Support Element Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6896)OSA-Express Customer's Guide and Reference (SA22-7935)OSA-Express3 Integrated Console Controller Dual-Port User's Guide (SC23-2266)Coupling Links I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0395)ESCON and FICON CTC Reference (SB10-7034)ESCON I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0394)Fiber Optic Cleaning Procedures (SY27-2604)Fibre Channel Connection (FICON) I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA24-7172)Maintenance Information for Fiber Optic Links (SY27-2597)Planning for Fiber Optic Links (GA23-0367)z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832)z/Architecture Reference Summary (SA22-7871) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories: High-word facility Interlocked-access facility Load/Store on condition facility Distinct operands facility Integer to/from floating point conversions PER zero address detect Decimal floating point quantum exceptions New crypto functions and modes Virtual architectural level Non-quiescing SSKe Anybody know if a new PoPS documenting these exists anywhere? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
Why not PROP instead? The publication is now and for long has been called just PRinciples of OPeration. PROP has the merits that 1) it contains no otiose [or misplaced] 's' and 2) it is not reminiscent of nursery scatology in English. Someone may well be able to think of a better replacement, but one standard term that was accurate and innocuous would certainly be useful. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?
I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they will combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the existing CC from a previous instruction. I remember a RISC processor of some sort where every instruction was conditional. On the z, that would cost 4 bits per instruction if the mask were encoded like in a branch. I wonder how that would affect efficiency and pipelining? -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Calculate maximum directory blocks of PDS
This value can be accessed using LISTDSI but I don't want to create TSO/ISPF environment. You don't need ISPF to use LISTDSI. Just TSO/REXX. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Calculate maximum directory blocks of PDS
The original question was if it is possible to calculate the maximum number of directory blocks with VTOC information. The answer is no, the number cannot be calculated from any information from the VTOC or any other source, unless the directory fills the whole first extent, which is probably not the meaning of maximum the OP intended. Some code somewhere has to read all the blocks and count them. It would be nice if IBM had decided 45 years ago to store the number of directory blocks in the Format 1 DSCB somewhere, but that could easily be a three-byte number, even with early S/360 DASD, and they may have felt that there weren't enough spare bytes in the F1 for that. And with EAV it could be a nine-byte number. There are many other aspects of PDSes that seem now to have been non-optimally designed, but they weren't seen that way 45 years ago. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calculate maximum directory blocks of PDS This value can be accessed using LISTDSI but I don't want to create TSO/ISPF environment. You don't need ISPF to use LISTDSI. Just TSO/REXX. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?
Arie, Thanks. We knew it can be done and so tells the HMC help screen. We will try to ipl next week from a DVD after changing to Single Object Operation (so far, we tried without it) and report here. It seems not well documented in the HMC user guide. Paul, The load program is stored in the HMC anyway, What change does it make for it to load from a disk drive (including the channel program involved) or from DVD? Itschak On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:46:50 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote: since z/VM and zLinux can be IPLed from a DVD (by my experience) I see no reason why you could not IPL z/OS from DVD. Of course as mentioned above, you must format the correct files on the DVD. Beside documentation you might want to look inside a zLinux (REDHAT or SUSE) DVD that is IPLable . And code drivers/channel programs/NIP modifications to read those files. Does the HMC DVD appear as a channel attached device, or is it accessed by a LAN connection to the HMC? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ldapsrch through TSO
When I enter an ldapsrch command from the ISPF Command Shell: ldapsrch -h abcdef.ghijklmno.org -p 390 -D cn=Admin, o=CSI -w xyz123 -b cn=tdbm,o=aes,c=us cn=axu9s the expected results are returned. However, when I try to specify a dataset as my filename: ldapsrch -h heracles.aessuccess.org -p 390 -D cn=Admin, o=CSI -w secret -b -f //'axu9s.junk' as per http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.e0za100/e0z2a180229.htm, with the dataset containing the exact same information as the search string in the fully typed command, I'm getting 'ldap_search: Search filter is not valid'. Any help is appreciated. My goal is to ultimately build a file from an existing CLIST used to add new users to RACF and use that information to add the user to the TDBM. Thanks Mike Swift AES/PHEAA Enterprise Security Office (717)720-3526 == This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for the above addressees only. If you receive this message in error please delete or destroy this message and/or attachments. The sender of this message will fully cooperate in the civil and criminal prosecution of any individual engaging in the unauthorized use of this message. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: gssa started task - very high cpu utilization
Doug, Sorry I won't be much help, but since it's your first post, I wanted to give you something. :) Our GSSA has used very little CPU. Here's the shutdown stats for a GSSA that was up on our largest lpar for about 6 weeks: - --TIMINGS (MINS.)-- -STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC EXCP CONNTCBSRB CLOCK SERV WORKLOAD - GSSA00431160 551181.02 64808 919K STC IEF404I GSSA - ENDED - TIME=04.55.31 -GSSA ENDED. NAME-CCS GSS SERVICE TOTAL TCB CPU TIME=.36 TOTAL E IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE $HASP395 GSSA ENDED So yours definitely seems unusual. I don't know sysview very well, but I have a vague recollection of things using lots of CPU when we were testing the SAMS portion of it. Hope that helps a bit. Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:46:50 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote: since z/VM and zLinux can be IPLed from a DVD (by my experience) I see no reason why you could not IPL z/OS from DVD. Of course as mentioned above, you must format the correct files on the DVD. Beside documentation you might want to look inside a zLinux (REDHAT or SUSE) DVD that is IPLable . And code drivers/channel programs/NIP modifications to read those files. Does the HMC DVD appear as a channel attached device, or is it accessed by a LAN connection to the HMC? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
socket select problem
Hi, In a COBOL program(environment. z/OS V1R9), we try to use timeout in socket connection. So we set the socket into nonblocking mode and we call the select function with our socket descriptor in write set. Our socket descriptor value is 0 so we set the maxsoc value to 1 in the select call. We receive the following errorcode: 10332. Its explanation is: A SELECT call is invoked with a MAXSOC value greater than that which was returned in the INITAPI function (MAXSNO field). I am really confused with this error code. So does anyone have any comments on this? Thanks Best Regards. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM zEnterprise
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? Is Redundant array of independent memory (RAIM) much different from ECC? Are modules hot-pluggable? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:20:39 +0200, R.S. wrote: No. You can buy Windows license off-the shelf and use. No special agreement is needed. This may depend on which version of Windows and for what use. For example, I am told Vista Home edition is not licensed for use on virtual PCs. (Server edition is OK.) This may have to do with how MS tracks serial numbers. This is perfectly contrary to license z/OS for Hercules (running on other platform than zMachine). Zing! BTW: I see no reason to have Windows on PC, which is sold with mainframe. I can buy the PC and mainframe separately - and connect it if needed. The same apply to AIX and Linux (on Power or Intel/AMD) workloads. How closely are they coupled? Perhaps even shared central memory? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
zEnterprise
zBoldly zGoing zWhere zNo-one zHas zGone zBefore! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
Why not PROP instead? It has been called POPS at least since 1976, when I took my first assembler course. Why change a name everybody understands? IBM has done that over the years and confused everybody. Look at the recent posts regarding z, i, p, x, z (etc.) Series. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FW: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
Why change a name everybody understands? I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! Indeed, but then, when all else fails, re-name, re-organize: We trained hard, but it seemed every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganised. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising, and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation. -Gaius Petronus, Roman general, AD 66 in _Satyricon_ , by Petronius Arbiter /s/ tuco bonno; Graduate, College of Conflict Management; University of SouthEast Asia; I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM zEnterprise
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? A while back. I don't recall exactly when but it's been something like five years or longer when discussing real memory...at least, for announcements and such. Is Redundant array of independent memory (RAIM) much different from ECC? Yes, very different. It's a RAID-like array for memory. So if you lose enough ECC-based memory the hardware can still recover without presenting a machine check. The HW announcement says: Major redesign of memory subsystem for improved availability: IBM's most robust error correction to date can be found in the memory subsystem. A new redundant array of independent memory (RAIM) technology is being introduced to provide protection at the dynamic random access memory (DRAM), dual inline memory module (DIMM), and memory channel level. Three full DRAM failures per rank can be corrected. DIMM level failures, including components such as the controller application specific integrated circuit (ASIC), the power regulators, the clocks, and the board, can be corrected. Memory channel failures such as signal lines, control lines, and drivers/receivers on the MCM can be corrected. Upstream and downstream data signals can be spared using two spare wires on both the upstream and downstream paths. One of these signals can be used to spare a clock signal line (one upstream and one downstream). Together these improvements are designed to deliver System z's most resilient memory subsystem to date. Are modules hot-pluggable? Sorry, I don't know. If I happen to run into one of the HW team, I'll ask. snip -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
Principles Of Operation: POO Principles Of OPeration: POOP Tom Puddicombe Mainframe Performance Capacity Planning CSC 71 Deerfield Rd, Meriden, CT 06450 ITIS | (860) 428-3252 | tpudd...@csc.com | www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 07/22/2010 11:54 AM Subject: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al. Why not PROP instead? The publication is now and for long has been called just PRinciples of OPeration. PROP has the merits that 1) it contains no otiose [or misplaced] 's' and 2) it is not reminiscent of nursery scatology in English. Someone may well be able to think of a better replacement, but one standard term that was accurate and innocuous would certainly be useful. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ldapsrch through TSO
The two queries are different, most notably after the -b. I've had problems with continuation characters when running under the TMP. The syntax for TSO calls for a hyphen '-' to continue a line where the hyphen would be invalid in other command shells. HTH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Swift Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ldapsrch through TSO When I enter an ldapsrch command from the ISPF Command Shell: ldapsrch -h abcdef.ghijklmno.org -p 390 -D cn=Admin, o=CSI -w xyz123 -b cn=tdbm,o=aes,c=us cn=axu9s the expected results are returned. However, when I try to specify a dataset as my filename: ldapsrch -h heracles.aessuccess.org -p 390 -D cn=Admin, o=CSI -w secret -b -f //'axu9s.junk' as per http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.e0za100/e0z2a180229.htm, with the dataset containing the exact same information as the search string in the fully typed command, I'm getting 'ldap_search: Search filter is not valid'. Any help is appreciated. My goal is to ultimately build a file from an existing CLIST used to add new users to RACF and use that information to add the user to the TDBM. Thanks Mike Swift AES/PHEAA Enterprise Security Office (717)720-3526 == This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for the above addressees only. If you receive this message in error please delete or destroy this message and/or attachments. The sender of this message will fully cooperate in the civil and criminal prosecution of any individual engaging in the unauthorized use of this message. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System x and Power 7?
PC's consume a huge slice of physical real estate as well as slurp huge helpings of power and cooling. But blended platform solutions look to be a fact of life for the foreseeable future. Blade hardware and VM help some. In theory, my company might could free up a couple hundred (perhaps thousands) of square feet of floor space and throttle back several expensive air cooling units. We are talking serious dollars - perhaps a near immediate payback. It is easy to envision medium scale applications exploiting a fabric of dozens (perhaps hundreds) of physical boxes hosting hundreds (perhaps thousands) of logical servers. Raise those numbers by several factors as business continuation solutions join the fray. Indeed, such a box may be the only practical hardware for some. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: System x and Power 7? Kelman, Tom pisze: ..snip BTW: I see no reason to have Windows on PC, which is sold with mainframe. I can buy the PC and mainframe separately - and connect it if needed. The same apply to AIX and Linux (on Power or Intel/AMD) workloads. I wish I would be surprised with some revolutionary solution. ..snip -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: History of Hard-coded Offsets
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:29:45 -0500, Don Higgins wrote: Upon further research with older staff members, it turns out there was an IBM 026 keypunch in the data entry department that had a sticky key in column 43 causing 1 to end up as A character. ... Having used an 026 a lot, I can't imagine its having such a column sensitivity. Might it have been a 514? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
zEnterprise Webinar
Interesting, 1650+ users watching (but 433 of them work for IBM). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Linux/X86 as a started task?
Mike, Even if you could run Linux under z/OS, would that really be cost effective? You could use the free Co:Z Launcher to run Linux stuff from z/OS: http://dovetail.com/docs/coz/cookbook.html#4_1 You can have a started task that runs the Linux shell remotely on another box. The script/programs running on the Linux box can cooperatively access datasets and DD's in the launching started task. BTW: If you get a z196 with zBX and x blades, you could run the Linux app there. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Wilkins, Mike mike.wilk...@bestbuy.com wrote: I seem to recall a few years ago running across a link to a product that would run Linux in z/OS as a started task. Can't find it, if it existed at all. Anyone know of a z/OS product like this? And no, we cannot carve out an lpar to play on. Or, run z/VM. Several years ago we were ready to bring up Linux on an lpar, but it was nixed for political reasons. Seems a lot of people had their fingers in the Linux server farm pie. Also, upper management already decided the mainframe was a dead horse. We are running a web server, and IMWEBSRV, using them to serve up reports, support, and such. But, I would like to bring up a Linux on the mainframe (as easy as possible) for the heck of it. That would raise a few eyebrows around here! (Always the trouble maker) Mike Wilkins Accenture Best Buy Technology Group 612.291.3191 mike.wilk...@bestbuy.com __ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?
I was picturing perhaps something more like a CS. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS? I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they will combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the existing CC from a previous instruction. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM zEnterprise
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM zEnterprise On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? Is Redundant array of independent memory (RAIM) much different from ECC? SNIP RAIM (Receiver Autonomous Integrity Monitoring - GPS) is used so that if we have cosmic radiation, we will be warned and the triple bit parity will be triggered ;-) Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
Cross Posted (MXG-L, ISVCOSTS, IBM-MAIN) Today IBM announced the zEnterprise 196, a new mainframe system available in September that will also offer a BladeCenter extension available in November. The US announcement letter is 110-170. The z196 will also have a new pricing metric Advanced Workload License Charges described in US announcement letter 210-238. AWLC offers Reduced price points, versus VWLC, for all MSU levels with more than three MSUs. This will help lower IBM MLC software charges for sites using VWLC (but no help if you're using EWLC). Further, AWLC will take advantage of tiers that only z/OS uses today. DB2, CICS, WebSphere MQ , IMS and other MLC WLC products do not lower the charge per MSU above 575 MSUs. For Example DB2 V10's charge at 575 or more MSUs is 59USD. With this announcement I'm expecting the 59USD to be decreased (Reduced price points, versus VWLC), and there should be further decreases for levels 5-7: Level 5 AWLC 876 - 1315 MSUs Level 6 AWLC1316 - 1975 MSUs Level 7 AWLC1976 - more MSUs The prices have not yet been published, but each tier should have a lower price than 59USD per MSU. This will lower IBM MLC software charges for sites with more than 875 MSUs in their PricingPlexes. In my opinion this is long overdue. A 2094-715 or a 2097-711 or larger machines will benefit from decreases at these higher tiers. Further updates on z196, AWLC and their impact on software pricing will be on http://www.sherkow.com/updates/z196awlc.html. Al -- Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM SW Pricing, LPARs, and IRD Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSSO problems
From z/OS V1R10.0 MVS Authorized Assembler Services Guide: 4.6.1 Asynchronous Cross Memory POST The POST macro signifies the completion of an event by one routine to another. Usually the system posts the completion of the event in the user's address space. The user can, however, cause the system to post completion of the event in another address space. The authorized user (executing in supervisor state, under protection key 0-7, or APF-authorized) of the POST macro can use the ASCB and ERRET parameters to perform a POST in an address space other than the user's own. If the caller is authorized to specify the ASCB and ERRET parameters, no check is made to determine if the requested address space is the issuing address space. This use of the POST macro is sometimes known as asynchronous cross memory post. Note: Do not issue asynchronous cross memory Post more frequently than necessary. Large numbers of cross memory Posts can consume excessive amounts of system resources. The ERRET routine is given control when POST detects an error after control has been returned to the issuer of POST. If MEMREL=YES is coded (or defaulted) on the POST macro, then the ERRET routine is given control in the issuer's home address space. If MEMREL=NO is coded on the POST macro, then the ERRET routine is given control in ASID 1. The routine executes in supervisor state and PSW key 0. It receives control enabled, unlocked, in SRB mode, and with the following register contents: Register Contents 0 ECB address 1 ASCB address (address specified for ASCB keyword) 2 completion code specified on POST invocation 3 system completion code that indicates why the POST request failed 4-13 used as a work register by the system 14 return address 15 ERRET address The ERRET routine will receive control in the addressing mode of the | caller of the cross memory POST, and the ERRET routine will run in a cross | memory environment where home, primary, and secondary address spaces are | all equal. The ERRET routine must return control to the address in register 14, unlocked and enabled. Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com 7/22/2010 4:31 AM Okay, Sorry, I didn't intend to interfere with your problem. The first issue I see is that if R12 were really clobbered, the error routine that you go to on a post failure would be the least of your worries. :) R12 isn't destroyed, what made you think it was? I think you probably aren't looking at the correct entries for the post macro in the manual. It clearly states: For LINKAGE=SVC, (this is the default and the one we are using in TSSO) . For SVC callers, registers 2-14 are preserved. In this particular case (fun9post) doing nothing on an error is acceptable, if (for any reason) we just failed to post, what else would you want TSSO to do in that case? I guess we could send a message, but what would the user do about it? On the other issue (possible offset conflict), I will look into it and get back to you as I have to re-assemble things to get a set of listings, unless you don't want my help, and if not, let me know so I don't waste my time. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise
I'm a zSuperHero with zNeither zPowers, nor zMotivation! zKimota! (Sorry, couldn't help myself.) Mark Hammond d. 214-615-4695 -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:eamacn...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: zEnterprise zBoldly zGoing zWhere zNo-one zHas zGone zBefore! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSSO problems
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TSSO problems The authorized user (executing in supervisor state, under protection key 0-7, or APF-authorized) of the POST macro can ... perform a POST in an address space other than the user's own. ... Brian ... or in all address spaces, if the ECB is in common storage. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
john gilmore wrote: Why not PROP instead? You are a good PROPonent to PROPerly PROPose a good name change! ;-D but one standard term that was accurate and innocuous would certainly be useful. What standards? There are a lot of gripes on this very list about the big blue's products name changes... From ADSM to TSM RACF to Security Server MVS/XA - MVS/ESA - OS/390 - z/OS etc... (can't remember now what ... ) Thanks CICS and DB2 are still the same... ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSSO problems
My point was that Brian was looking at the environment specifications for the SVC itself, not for the ERRET, which gets control asynchronously, and with R12 in an unknown state. Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com 7/22/2010 2:39 PM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TSSO problems The authorized user (executing in supervisor state, under protection key 0-7, or APF-authorized) of the POST macro can ... perform a POST in an address space other than the user's own. ... Brian ... or in all address spaces, if the ECB is in common storage. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise
Touche! And, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk! Whoop! Whoop! Whoop! (3 stooges, sci-fi, comic book geek since 1962) Maturity hasn't entered the equation in so long. (Dennis Leary sound alike) - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -Original Message- From: Mark Hammond markhamm...@ateras.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:29:54 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise I'm a zSuperHero with zNeither zPowers, nor zMotivation! zKimota! (Sorry, couldn't help myself.) Mark Hammond d. 214-615-4695 -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:eamacn...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: zEnterprise zBoldly zGoing zWhere zNo-one zHas zGone zBefore! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
Thanks CICS and DB2 are still the same... ;-D CICS used to be CICS, now it's TS. DB2 is UDB! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: CICS used to be CICS, now it's TS. DB2 is UDB! Ok. Ok. Ok. I give up in this name change game! ;-D Next time, you're going break my brain... ;-[ zPS: zI zliked zyour zpost zin zthe zthread 'zEnterprise' ;-Z Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
zI zliked zyour zpost zin zthe zthread 'zEnterprise' As a Sci-Fi geek I've been making jokes about Enterprise in IBM product names since ESA was announced. I even drew up a comic, in 1988 -- the dialogue was something like: Red alert! Red alert! 8 Terabyte core dump! Can you fix it Bones? Dammit, Jim! I'm a doctor! Not a systems programmer. Six to swap in, Mr Scott. Start I/O! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) writes: From ADSM to TSM RACF to Security Server MVS/XA - MVS/ESA - OS/390 - z/OS etc... (can't remember now what ... ) ADSM goes back to CMSBACK I did in the late 70s ... was distributed internally ... it was finally released as workstation datasave facility ... with client front-ends that included support for backing up files to the server backend. It then became ADSM ... along with the disk division getting renamed ADSTAR and looked like ADSTAR would be spun off (new management reversed that decision). When disk division was finally unloaded, ADSM was kept ... but moved into another organization and renamed TSM. Following lists the original/first release as Workstation DataSave Facility (WDSF40 for VM) September 9, 1990: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Tivoli_Storage_Manager recent cmsback/adsm/tsm thread in linkedin group http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#0 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#18 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#19 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#22 ... for other drift, PROP ... long ago far away, stood for Programmable OPerator (later PRogrammed OPerator) -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
W dniu 2010-07-22 20:56, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: john gilmore wrote: Why not PROP instead? You are a good PROPonent to PROPerly PROPose a good name change! ;-D but one standard term that was accurate and innocuous would certainly be useful. What standards? There are a lot of gripes on this very list about the big blue's products name changes... From ADSM to TSM RACF to Security Server MVS/XA - MVS/ESA - OS/390 - z/OS etc... (can't remember now what ... ) Thanks CICS and DB2 are still the same... ;-D Oh yes! Ten years after I AGAIN have CICS 4.1 Ooops! It's CICS TS 4.1, not CICS 4.1 What is CICS TS? Mayb some add-on tool like CICS IA, or CICS TG? vbg Of cours it's still better than PROCESSOR. Almost nobody can properly distinguish CEC and CPC - that's OK. But people used to say PROCESSOR for CEC, sometime they say this processor has 4 processors. Maybe this is the reason why some non-mainframe co-workers name it CocaCola vending machine. Size and colour are similar. g -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM zEnterprise
W dniu 2010-07-22 19:46, John Eells pisze: Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? A while back. I don't recall exactly when but it's been something like five years or longer when discussing real memory...at least, for announcements and such. Is Redundant array of independent memory (RAIM) much different from ECC? Yes, very different. It's a RAID-like array for memory. So if you lose enough ECC-based memory the hardware can still recover without presenting a machine check. The HW announcement says: Major redesign of memory subsystem for improved availability: IBM's most robust error correction to date can be found in the memory subsystem. A new redundant array of independent memory (RAIM) technology is being introduced to provide protection at the dynamic random access memory (DRAM), dual inline memory module (DIMM), and memory channel level. Three full DRAM failures per rank can be corrected. DIMM level failures, including components such as the controller application specific integrated circuit (ASIC), the power regulators, the clocks, and the board, can be corrected. Memory channel failures such as signal lines, control lines, and drivers/receivers on the MCM can be corrected. Upstream and downstream data signals can be spared using two spare wires on both the upstream and downstream paths. One of these signals can be used to spare a clock signal line (one upstream and one downstream). Together these improvements are designed to deliver System z's most resilient memory subsystem to date. Are modules hot-pluggable? Sorry, I don't know. If I happen to run into one of the HW team, I'll ask. I know, cause I saw it (even swapped): NO. You have to remove the book if you want to open the case. That's why the memory cannot be hot-pluggable. However: a) the book itself can be hot-plugged and unplugged (although I'm aware of serious problem caused by such process). b) the memory can be enabled by microcode - like CP. It's even an option for CIU. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?
W dniu 2010-07-22 17:46, Arye Shemer pisze: My two cents opinion, since z/VM and zLinux can be IPLed from a DVD (by my experience) I see no reason why you could not IPL z/OS from DVD. I see one: IBM will. IBM decided to set up DVD IPL for VM and Linux. IBM did not prepared such possibility for neither z/OS, nor DSS SA (which was actually asked). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
But it's still a Green Card isn't it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?
snip--- I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they will combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the existing CC from a previous instruction. I remember a RISC processor of some sort where every instruction was conditional. On the z, that would cost 4 bits per instruction if the mask were encoded like in a branch. I wonder how that would affect efficiency and pipelining? ---unsnip-- I don't care who calls it what, but PLEASE, ANYONE, send me a copy of the PoPs manual as a E-Mail ttachment as soon as you can get a grip on it. I'm stuck in a dessert here, with very poor access to anything. :-( Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise
---snip---: I'm a zSuperHero with zNeither zPowers, nor zMotivation! zKimota! (Sorry, couldn't help myself.) Mark Hammond d. 214-615-4695 -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:eamacn...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: zEnterprise zBoldly zGoing zWhere zNo-one zHas zGone zBefore! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! ---unsnip-- Could boh of you try to restrain your exuberance? :-)) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise
---snip- Touche! And, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk! Whoop! Whoop! Whoop! (3 stooges, sci-fi, comic book geek since 1962) Maturity hasn't entered the equation in so long. (Dennis Leary sound alike) ---unsnip Are you sure you didn't mean Timothy Leary? :-) Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
snip--- But it's still a Green Card isn't it? --unsnip- :-) Hasn't been green in over thirty years! :-) Latest version is white and it's a 70-page booklet. Sorry to disappoint you. (Not really! :-) ) Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Mark Thomen
Sad news for those of us that are relatively old-timers on this list. Mark Thomen, our VSAM and ICFCAT expert within IBM, passed away last week. I have extended condolences to his family and friends on behalf of all the IBM-MAIN list members. He was a good friend and a valued contributor to this list and will be sorely missed. I suggest that a moment of silent reflection and perhaps a prayer or two are appropriate. Sadly, Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mark Thomen
Thank you Rick. I'd been wondering what had happened to him. Jerry Whitteridge Design Engineer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Mark Thomen Sad news for those of us that are relatively old-timers on this list. Mark Thomen, our VSAM and ICFCAT expert within IBM, passed away last week. I have extended condolences to his family and friends on behalf of all the IBM-MAIN list members. He was a good friend and a valued contributor to this list and will be sorely missed. I suggest that a moment of silent reflection and perhaps a prayer or two are appropriate. Sadly, Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise
Are you sure you didn't mean Timothy Leary? I meant the one singing I'm an *sshol* - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. At least it keeps folks like Al in a job. Shane ... On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Al Sherkow wrote: The z196 will also have a new pricing metric Advanced Workload License Charges described in US announcement letter 210-238. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mark Thomen
For those going Share in Boston, we will definitely take a moment to reflect AND raise our glass at SCIDs. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 Thursday 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Mark Thomen Thank you Rick. I'd been wondering what had happened to him. Jerry Whitteridge Design Engineer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Mark Thomen Sad news for those of us that are relatively old-timers on this list. Mark Thomen, our VSAM and ICFCAT expert within IBM, passed away last week. I have extended condolences to his family and friends on behalf of all the IBM-MAIN list members. He was a good friend and a valued contributor to this list and will be sorely missed. I suggest that a moment of silent reflection and perhaps a prayer or two are appropriate. Sadly, Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mark Thomen
I am shocked and saddened. On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 17:07 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: Sad news for those of us that are relatively old-timers on this list. Mark Thomen, our VSAM and ICFCAT expert within IBM, passed away last week. I have extended condolences to his family and friends on behalf of all the IBM-MAIN list members. He was a good friend and a valued contributor to this list and will be sorely missed. I suggest that a moment of silent reflection and perhaps a prayer or two are appropriate. Sadly, Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
TCP translate table dataset
We have noticed 1000's of accesses to this dataset(TCPIP.STANDARD.TCPXLBIN ) every day. Has anyone else seen this activity on this dataset. IBM referred me to QA Technote 1266409. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
First generation, 96 cores - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu Jul 22 17:57:28 2010 Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCP translate table dataset
Hi John, I believe this to be pretty normal in a mid-range to large-sized environment. This dataset contains the standard ASCII-to-EBCDIC translation table that is used by most TCP/IP applications which require codepage translation services. The exception is Telnet, which (usually) uses a different dataset. In many shops, this dataset is most often accessed by FTP and, to a lesser degree, by lpr/lpd. If it's allocations rather than accesses that concern you, they can be reduced somewhat by including DD statements in the JCL for these daemons/clients (and the RESOLVER, I believe). You can read more in the IP Configuration Guide (especially Appendix A). Cheers, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 16:31 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: TCP translate table dataset We have noticed 1000's of accesses to this dataset(TCPIP.STANDARD.TCPXLBIN ) every day. Has anyone else seen this activity on this dataset. IBM referred me to QA Technote 1266409. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.
P --Original Message-- From: Ken Porowski Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al. Sent: Jul 22, 2010 5:04 PM But it's still a Green Card isn't it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: AXR04 on z/OS 1.11
On 22 Jul 2010 05:45:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Peter Relson pisze: FORCE ... ARM is less dangerous than just FORCE ..., thus making a miskeying dangerous. There is little if any legitimate possibility of miskeying danger. You cannot issue FORCE wthout ARM without having tried to cancel the space first. Last, but not least: Professionalist should know the commands he uses, and there are OPERCMDS profiles for others. And then there are people like myself with great ability to miskey something (you may have noticed that in some of my postings). Hitting ENTER before one intends to also can happen. While I have been in the position of being the better class of idiot in regard to something that is idiot-proof, reading the thing on FORCE reminds me of the way my cell phone can make calls to the last number received even with key lock having been set (a feature my phone company decided I needed). Clark Morris -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
Really? Want to say how we got a z9-109? Just curious. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 Thursday 5:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing First generation, 96 cores - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu Jul 22 17:57:28 2010 Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
I don't know that one. The 1 96 came from an IBMer during a discussion recently. - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu Jul 22 20:22:08 2010 Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing Really? Want to say how we got a z9-109? Just curious. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 Thursday 5:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing First generation, 96 cores - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu Jul 22 17:57:28 2010 Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
I have a thought. D2X(196) = C4. Perhaps IBM is trying to blow up the competition. Sorry. I just could not resist. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
