Re: How long for SMF to switch
--- On Tue, 11/2/10, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: How long for SMF to switch To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 3:03 PM Our process to offload the SMF data from the MAN files waits until all MAN files are full. (Yes - I will be fixing that). I've never worked in an environment that did it that way, so I won't comment. So it forces a switch SMF between each step. Because the MAN files are small on very active systems (Yes - I will be fixing that), any time I can save in switching will reduce the amount of time I am buffering SMF. I'd suggest that you do fix the two above. Then 1.5 minutes won't be an issue. It's a symptom -- NOT the problem. Ted: As you probably know every shop is different and there are really no hard and fast rules. I would research (get record count) off the smf tape for each dataset and try sampling say over 6 months time (make sure you get the window in year end or anyh other time there is a lot of activity) and size ithem an go from there. AT one shop I was in the programmers were terrible with COBOL. Example: when they wanted to go back to the first record they would close and re-open the FD (yikes) I happened to be out in the compouter room and noticed SMF address space was eating memory up so I had them start dumping. It never caught up as the program was creating the vsam open/close for evey record in the file. I finally had to do a force on the job. I read the programmer the riot act. I also called his boss squared to make sure that never happened again (it didn't). I suspect there were other similar programs flotaing around but did not have the volume og open/close that really hurt anything. If I had wanted to I could have gone back for a years worth of SMF to see but I had my hands in the burner for to many other items. I had the idea that the programmer did not have a clue on VSAM and got advice from someone else when he wrote the program. I asked that they send the programmers to class on COBOL but everyone was insulted that I asked.I am a fan of COBOL up to a point but frankly not enough education was not out there for typical joe programmer. IBM's cobol education was almost a joke but at that time Steve Comstock type was not out there or if he/she were they were silent. I had some input at that opoiny and the VP would have listened if had had a suggestion like Steve C. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How long for SMF to switch
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 11/2/10, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: How long for SMF to switch To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 3:03 PM snip class on COBOL but everyone was insulted that I asked.I am a fan of COBOL up to a point but frankly not enough education was not out there for typical joe programmer. IBM's cobol education was almost a joke but at that time Steve Comstock type was not out there or if he/she were they were silent. I had some input at that opoiny and the VP would have listened if had had a suggestion like Steve C. Ed snip That is a truly sad story. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WTO ABEND D23 help
On 11/2/2010 2:33 PM, Charles Mills wrote: I am not trying to do a one-shot multi-line WTO for the reason you described. What a goofy design! It is perfect for someone with n hard-coded messages but how likely is that in the real world? I don't even know what my n is ahead of time. I am doing n one-line WTO's followed by an E type WTO. Goofy is in the eyes of the beholder. I have a number of STC and batch programs that use fixed ML WTOs to present help text or error responses to incorrect or incomplete modify commands. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Changing Data Class attributes
Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote in message news:!!AAAYAIH+nruO4exAufAxNTnNpHSiggAAEK_uM5T8CYR jlknq+vqwlkuba...@gmail.com... In chapter 7 of the manual, DFSMSdfp Storage Administration, it clearly states that changes to data class attributes are not retroactively applied to existing data sets: Not all attributes apply to every data set organization. When SMS allocates a data set, it uses only those data class attributes that have meaning for the given data set organization. SMS saves the data class name for each SMS-managed data set. The actual data class definitions reside in the SCDS. If you alter a data class definition, SMS applies the changes to any new data sets that use the data class after you activate the changed configuration. However, SMS does not retroactively apply your changes to previously allocated data sets. However, this does not appear to be entirely true. For example, it appears that you can allocate a SMS-managed data set using a data class that has a Dynamic Volume Count of 3. Then alter the data class's Dynamic Volume Count to 2. You would expect the data set to able to expand to 3 volumes, since the Dynamic Volume Count was 3 at the time the data set was allocated. However, it was discovered that the data set would only expand to 2 volumes. It appears that I cannot change this attribute without affecting existing data sets. Of course, depending on what you trying to accomplish that could good or bad. I ETR'ed IBM about this. They said that data class changes do not apply to existing data sets; however, some access methods have undocumented features which will may dynamically query data class attributes. At this point, they are not ready to document it. Now, my question, has anyone discovered other attributes or conditions where changing existing data class attributes could affect (good or bad) existing data sets? Previous data sets that will be recalled or restored after the data class change? Don Don, Yes I discovered this too and it is partially true: you cannot change the dataclass of a dataset, but some attributes of the dataclass will be used at open-time, so changing these attributes will be noted on subsequent opens of datasets with that dataclass. We ran into problems with DB2 and received the following error: IGD104I DB2TA.DSNDBC.DRCA02.XSGMNT2.J0001.A001 RETAINED, DDNAME=A002289C IKJ56231I DATA SET DB2TA.DSNDBC.DRCA02.XSGMNT2.J0001.A001 NOT ALLOCATED, SYSTEM OR INSTALLATION ERROR+ IKJ56231I DYNAMIC ALLOCATION REASON CODE IS X'04FC' IEF020I DB2TDBM1 DB2TDBM1 TCT I/O TABLE SIZE EXCEEDS THE 16MB MAXIMUM. 04FC(1276) Meaning: The request being processed would cause the TCT I/O table to exceed the maximum allowable size. Application Programmer Action: If the job that received the message has JCL DD statements that specify a high volume count, or the job that received the message uses dynamic allocation to allocate data sets and specifies a high volume count, reduce the volume count and rerun the job. If the volume count is derived from the data class, use a data class which has a lower volume count or contact the Storage Administrator. Storage Administrator Action: Reduce the volume count or dynamic volume count specified in the DATACLAS. Each time at open of a dataset the dynamic volume count value of the dataset's dataclass is used to create controlblocks to be able to extend the dataset. Chaning the dataclass's attributes will change the controlblocks on subsequent opens of the datasets. Here it is explained: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T165 It is not so much undocumented, as well as rather hidden in docs partly related to SMS. This is why I would like to be able to change the dataclass value of a dataset. If a large group of datasets have a specific dataclass and you want to change some dynamic attributes of the dataclass and it appear that they are unfit for some datasets, changing these dataset's dataclass to a more suitable class can solve problems. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij
Re: How long for SMF to switch
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:38:28 -0600 Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: :I am currently working on rewriting our SMF Dump process. :I was wondering on a quiet system, if I issue an I SMF command, about how long till the switch? I am seeing about 1.5 mins from command to switch. :IIRC, a job step has to end before the switch will take place. Or a TSO :session of STC must changes steps or end. Not in my experience. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How long for SMF to switch
Ed Gould wrote: Example: when they wanted to go back to the first record they would close and re-open the FD (yikes) I happened to be out in the compouter room and noticed SMF address space was eating memory up so I had them start dumping. It never caught up as the program was creating the vsam open/close for evey record in the file. I finally had to do a force on the job. I read the programmer the riot act. I agree with Sam that this is a truly sad story. For my part I had placed automation software to react on those messages: IEC070I - Issue CICS CEMT to close the affected VSAM dsn. These programmers quickly learn to program properly. DFHST0103 - Issue CEMT PERF SHUT, wait few minutes, then *Cancelling* of affected STC. Yup - CANCEL. You get it. Too bad - too sad. IEE366*, IEE986E, IEE985A, IEE391A, IEE979* - Forcing of 'emergency' SMF jobs. Not really emergency, but this is to SHORTEN runtime of my daily SMF regular jobs. If you do not react to SMF problems, your system can grind to a halt. In antique days, my systems ran out of paging space. Ouch. ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
In listserv%201010311434090886.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 10/31/2010 at 02:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Would you have preferred the more legible lacunae? (My viewer corrupted the ligature.) Probably because it does not support MIME properly. It seems to lose the charset when replying. That's just John G. at his finest. Contributors more sophisticated than the OP have earned the designation radically naif. No, although they may have earned the designations radical naïf or radically naïve. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Task Creation and Termination
In 01cb789c$6eee3f90$4ccabe...@net, on 10/30/2010 at 09:39 PM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said: If I Attach a Task with a ECB parameter this ECB is posted by MVS when the Subtask does a BR 14 to MVS Yes. When this ECB is posted I do DETACH to remove the TCB After extracting any data you need. If I don't code these two parameters the when the SUBTASK does a BR R14 to MVS everything (TCB etc) goes away automatically These? You never mentioned the exit (ETXR) parameter. If that the other one that you meant? The processing is similar. Would there be any reason to code both these parameter Examine storage owned by the subtask. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
In dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b230555b...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net, on 11/02/2010 at 09:31 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com said: You'll surely gonna explain to me what intelligence has to do with the knowledge of a foreign language? Remember, there many people on this list for whom English is not the native language. The programmers from other cultures whom I encountered professionally did not have a problem with vocabulary. Their problems with English were mostly in two very different categories: They frequently carried over grammatical constructs from their native languages. They failed to understand common idioms. The types of errors that I'm referring to were not the result of not having learned arbitrary rules, e.g., what preposition to use when, rather than a lack of structural understanding or vocabulary. They may be made by someone with a larger English vocabulary than a native anglophone who would not make those errors. In (probably) every language there are fine nuances in the meaning of words depending on context. You can get in trouble even if you know those nuances, because an idiom has semantics based on factors beyond vocabulary. Understanding the individual words perfectly doesn't help. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
In listserv%201011011924424160.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/01/2010 at 07:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Google tells me for: she is naive; he is naive qu'elle est na ve, il est na f I seriously doubt that. Perhaps you meant to have ï in there somewhere, but your Content-Type: header line doesn't have a charset. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
In aanlktik+d89dqf--v2hhv2eej1lpz-ybi1l9a+xji...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/01/2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: I like the US-English-International Keyboard setting on Windows / Linux. There's more than one US International mapping. The one that I'm using doesn't have a dead-key A. It does, however, have a dead key for, e.g., ~, as well as various alternate key mappings, e.g., Right Alt-E gives me €. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
In 5359.87171...@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 11/01/2010 at 12:31 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. Yes, it's much better IRL to release buggy code rather than hitting the manuals. If I had answers, I would have responded. It would be better if you only responded when your answers were correct. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
In 38a766e3736a439e8465c2a593dc1...@ownerpc, on 11/01/2010 at 09:25 AM, Tony's FRONTIER account tbabo...@frontier.com said: But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. Use MIME, ensure that you have the correct charset in your header and insert the correct code point for æ in that charset, e.g., 230 for ISO-8859-1. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Give me ligatures or give me death (Patrick Henry) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
In aanlktik30g48+hed9wlpdkv=guy7l0efzhn41btzr...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/01/2010 at 03:27 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said: However, many people of Asian decent or whose native language is not of Romance origin (Hebrew, Arabic, etc.) have none of the context or background mentioned above by you. Some of those speak and write better English than native anglophones. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?
Hi list, We aim to cap the only active LPAR on the CEC(26 MSU) to 24 MSU. But, I'm a bit confuse when I checked the RMF CPU Activity report as below, which shows that with the interval, SYS2 was able to use up to 25 MSU. (Highlighted) So my questions are: 1. Is this because CPU capping is not working for only one active LPAR on the CEC? If it's the case, any reference? 2. Or, this is related to the WEIGHT value we used to CAP? in our case, we reference our CEC capacity is 26 MSU (about 171 MIPS), target to CAP 24 MSU (160 MIPS). . But, for client's sake, we use MIPS value as the WEIGHT,i.e 160. (as highlighted in the report). And, this mislead the Lpar scheduler that it is over 100% of the CEC. Thus, SYS2 can use as much as it needs. 3. Or any other posibility? Pls shed some light, thanks a lot! PAGE2 z/OS V1R8SYSTEM ID SYS2 START 08/17/2010-03.00.00 INTERVAL 000.59.59 RPT VERSION V1R8 RMF END 08/17/2010-04.00.00 CYCLE 0.100 SECONDS MVS PARTITION NAMESYS2NUMBER OF PHYSICAL PROCESSORS 4 GROUP NAME N/A IMAGE CAPACITY 24 CP2 LIMITN/A NUMBER OF CONFIGURED PARTITIONS 5 ICF 2 WAIT COMPLETION NO DISPATCH INTERVAL DYNAMIC - PARTITION DATA - -- LOGICAL PARTITION PROCESSOR DATA -- -- AVERAGE PROCESSOR UTILIZATION PERCENTAGES -- MSU -CAPPING-- PROCESSOR- DISPATCH TIME DATA LOGICAL PROCESSORS --- PHYSICAL PROCESSORS --- NAME S WGT DEFACT DEF WLM% NUM TYPE EFFECTIVE TOTAL EFFECTIVETOTAL LPAR MGMT EFFECTIVE TOTAL SYS2 A 1600 25 YES0.02 CP01.55.49.238 01.55.53.278 96.5296.57 0.06 96.52 96.57 SYS6 A100 0 YES0.02 CP00.00.00.000 00.00.00.0000.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 *PHYSICAL* 00.00.01.367 0.02 0.02 -- -- -- TOTAL 01.55.49.238 01.55.54.645 0.08 96.52 96.59 CFP01AH2 A DED1 ICF 00.59.59.655 00.59.59.725 99.9999.99 0.00 50.00 50.00 CFP02AH2 A DED1 ICF 00.59.59.666 00.59.59.708 99.9999.99 0.00 50.00 50.00 *PHYSICAL* 00.00.00.422 0.01 0.01 -- -- -- TOTAL 01.59.59.321 01.59.59.855 0.01 99.99 100.0 SYS8 -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OSMF install
Hi Try to install z/OSMF and WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance have some problems and don't understand the role or the intention behind WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance Is this the future ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OSMF install
Yes, a lot of IBM's future System Programmer productivity tools will be incorporated in WAS OEM. It is their stated direction so those of us who have been around for a while will have to get used to it. Web-inizing everything is the trend and System Programming tasks will be following that path also. Welcome to the brave new world. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OSMF install Hi Try to install z/OSMF and WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance have some problems and don't understand the role or the intention behind WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance Is this the future ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OSMF install
On 11/3/2010 12:13 PM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: Yes, a lot of IBM's future System Programmer productivity tools will be incorporated in WAS OEM. It is their stated direction so those of us who have been around for a while will have to get used to it. Web-inizing everything is the trend and System Programming tasks will be following that path also. Welcome to the brave new world. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OSMF install Hi Try to install z/OSMF and WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance have some problems and don't understand the role or the intention behind WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance Is this the future ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Hi At last not alone. Maybe the WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance is to brave for me. Seriously a large number of unknown components, programs, scripts etc has installed for this server, and maybe the larger challange to manage this server, as to manage by this the system . Do they asked/involved somebody with sysprog experience during the planning? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OSMF install
They involved folks in the planning for the functionality but not necessarily the installation (other than an ESP program). I agree that the installation process needs to be simplified and made comprehendible to System Programmers not familiar with WAS. The current method is convoluted at best and expects us to know esoteric settings that are specific to WAS. Good luck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OSMF install On 11/3/2010 12:13 PM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: Yes, a lot of IBM's future System Programmer productivity tools will be incorporated in WAS OEM. It is their stated direction so those of us who have been around for a while will have to get used to it. Web-inizing everything is the trend and System Programming tasks will be following that path also. Welcome to the brave new world. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OSMF install Hi Try to install z/OSMF and WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance have some problems and don't understand the role or the intention behind WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance Is this the future ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Hi At last not alone. Maybe the WebSphere Application Server OEM edition for z/OS server instance is to brave for me. Seriously a large number of unknown components, programs, scripts etc has installed for this server, and maybe the larger challange to manage this server, as to manage by this the system . Do they asked/involved somebody with sysprog experience during the planning? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The replication feature.
Shai has said that he understands what the Read Count, Search Key Equal, TIC *-16 loop is doing. His problem is that when simulating how that sequence works, he cannot know, without also reading the tracks involved (which for performance reasons he doesn't want to do) which track, if any, has the key that will cause the loop to end, which will then presumably be the only track in the range of tracks being searched that will be accessed by a write command coming after the search/TIC pair. Thus he cannot know which track to replicate. One way to solve this problem is to replicate all the tracks within the range being searched, which will depend on whether the chain is operating in CKD or ECKD mode and also on the current file mask. When in CKD mode, the maximum number of tracks that can be in a multi-track search operation is however many tracks constitute one full cylinder. When in ECKD mode, the maximum number of tracks that can be accessed in any multi-track operation is always two, the track where the operation begins and one track beyond that. In all these cases, if the search fails after accessing all possible tracks in the range allowed, the channel program will end with a Record Not Found error, which may then cause the operating system to redrive the channel program on a new cylinder or a new range of tracks. Presumably his code would also intercept such a redrive operation with the new range of tracks visible. The problem here is that a very large number of tracks may have to be searched before the search command is successful, and he doesn't want to have to replicate any more tracks than have really been changed by a write command coming immediately after the Search/TIC. A real DASD will never have more than one track written to, but Shai's difficulty lies in knowing which one track to replicate. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The replication feature. On real hardware, the READ_COUNT will give you the address of the record whose key is being compared by the next CCW. It's a sequence that is heavily used in searches of non-indexed VTOCs. Rick -- shai hess wrote: Yes, I know it and I support it. But be aware that I can not see the result of the READ_COUNT because I take control before the IO is really done to the real device. Shai On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip--- A few words on replication. The standard replication is sending CCWS to all controller which have mirrors disks. Sometime controller send data to other controller to sync the data between all of them. In this process each controller emulates the CCWS and by that create the same data as the source disk. In this case the search key is very easy to implement. MFNetDisk because of the slow media of TCP do something else. It is analyze the CCW in memory without accessing the source disk data. That is why it is hard to process the search key without access the data in the disk. After process the CCW it is decide what tracks need to be ReSync in the mirrors of the source disks. This process is complicate process especially for search key CCW. Using this processing, MFNetDisk never block the real disk but the minus is that this is ASync processing meaning that if there is crash in MF, the mirror may be not fully Sync with the source disk. the MFNetDisk replication can be good if you want to create Sync point or backup of the real disk in specific time where you can validate that the process of ReSync is done completely without updating the source disks for short time until the ReSync is totally over. This is called Sync Point where the mirrors is fully Sync with the real disk. About the MFNetDisk emulation. Each CCW is sent to the PC which access the data in the emulate disks and easily can process any CCW include serach key and all other CCWS. ---unsnip- Shai, it's entirely acceptyable to use a READ COUNT CCW before the SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL CCW. READ COUNT SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL TIC *-16 (Back to the READ COUNT READY DATA (or WRITE DATA, as needed) Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the
Re: ATTACH
At 12:17 -0400 on 11/02/2010, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: ATTACH: You can get in trouble even if you know those nuances, because an idiom has semantics based on factors beyond vocabulary. Understanding the individual words perfectly doesn't help. There is also the issue that words pick up extra meanings over time and thus the same sentence can have different meanings based on when it was used or the intended connotation of the definition word. There is also the case of regional word definitions and the use of different words for the same concept. English terms as opposed to US terms are an example. UK English uses Bonnet and Boot where US English uses Hood and Trunk (for car parts). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
Not to mention the difference in the meaning of Bootie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH At 12:17 -0400 on 11/02/2010, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: ATTACH: You can get in trouble even if you know those nuances, because an idiom has semantics based on factors beyond vocabulary. Understanding the individual words perfectly doesn't help. There is also the issue that words pick up extra meanings over time and thus the same sentence can have different meanings based on when it was used or the intended connotation of the definition word. There is also the case of regional word definitions and the use of different words for the same concept. English terms as opposed to US terms are an example. UK English uses Bonnet and Boot where US English uses Hood and Trunk (for car parts). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
Robert A. Rosenbergwrote: ... English uses Hood and Trunk (for car parts). Time to put a Hood over this thread and place it in the Trunk. ;-D I'm not talking about car parts ... 'Hood' - Think of that little girlie, Red Riding Hood who disturbed that little wolfie while he is trying to p** before eating innocent girlies and grannys. ;-D 'Trunk' - A large packing case or box that clasps shut, used as luggage or for storage. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The replication feature.
That is true. If I can not be sure about a specific track I will take the worse case. That can be until one cylinder. The simulator is many thousands of code and I made it the best and the efficient I can. Good point Bill. Shai On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: Shai has said that he understands what the Read Count, Search Key Equal, TIC *-16 loop is doing. His problem is that when simulating how that sequence works, he cannot know, without also reading the tracks involved (which for performance reasons he doesn't want to do) which track, if any, has the key that will cause the loop to end, which will then presumably be the only track in the range of tracks being searched that will be accessed by a write command coming after the search/TIC pair. Thus he cannot know which track to replicate. One way to solve this problem is to replicate all the tracks within the range being searched, which will depend on whether the chain is operating in CKD or ECKD mode and also on the current file mask. When in CKD mode, the maximum number of tracks that can be in a multi-track search operation is however many tracks constitute one full cylinder. When in ECKD mode, the maximum number of tracks that can be accessed in any multi-track operation is always two, the track where the operation begins and one track beyond that. In all these cases, if the search fails after accessing all possible tracks in the range allowed, the channel program will end with a Record Not Found error, which may then cause the operating system to redrive the channel program on a new cylinder or a new range of tracks. Presumably his code would also intercept such a redrive operation with the new range of tracks visible. The problem here is that a very large number of tracks may have to be searched before the search command is successful, and he doesn't want to have to replicate any more tracks than have really been changed by a write command coming immediately after the Search/TIC. A real DASD will never have more than one track written to, but Shai's difficulty lies in knowing which one track to replicate. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The replication feature. On real hardware, the READ_COUNT will give you the address of the record whose key is being compared by the next CCW. It's a sequence that is heavily used in searches of non-indexed VTOCs. Rick -- shai hess wrote: Yes, I know it and I support it. But be aware that I can not see the result of the READ_COUNT because I take control before the IO is really done to the real device. Shai On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip--- A few words on replication. The standard replication is sending CCWS to all controller which have mirrors disks. Sometime controller send data to other controller to sync the data between all of them. In this process each controller emulates the CCWS and by that create the same data as the source disk. In this case the search key is very easy to implement. MFNetDisk because of the slow media of TCP do something else. It is analyze the CCW in memory without accessing the source disk data. That is why it is hard to process the search key without access the data in the disk. After process the CCW it is decide what tracks need to be ReSync in the mirrors of the source disks. This process is complicate process especially for search key CCW. Using this processing, MFNetDisk never block the real disk but the minus is that this is ASync processing meaning that if there is crash in MF, the mirror may be not fully Sync with the source disk. the MFNetDisk replication can be good if you want to create Sync point or backup of the real disk in specific time where you can validate that the process of ReSync is done completely without updating the source disks for short time until the ReSync is totally over. This is called Sync Point where the mirrors is fully Sync with the real disk. About the MFNetDisk emulation. Each CCW is sent to the PC which access the data in the emulate disks and easily can process any CCW include serach key and all other CCWS. ---unsnip- Shai, it's entirely acceptyable to use a READ COUNT CCW before the SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL CCW. READ COUNT SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL TIC *-16 (Back to the READ COUNT READY DATA (or WRITE DATA, as needed) Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive
initiator
Good morning all. I have a problem I would like to put out here and see if anybody else has seen it. The last couple of days I am having a batch job issue the message 'ief099i' waiting for datasets. The wait is being caused by an initiator that has not freed a dataset. In last night's case a job executed at 21:30 and ended successfully. The other job started to execute at 23:45 and issued the message. The local fix is to purge the initiator of the job that is holding the dsn. Thank YOU Bill Carroll CICS Systems Programmer\ Grange Insurance carro...@grangeinsurance.com DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-TPX and SMF question
2 decades ago, when I was a TPX developer, they were SaveAreaControlBlock. They were getmained at startup below the line and chained together. They contained a savearea and two 6 word workareas used by variable management. The available chain was anchored in the SMRT or the SMRT extension. I had code to move some of them above the line and to create stacks but it was never implemented before CA bought out Legent. There should be an TPXOPER command that gives you what you want. For building exits, is there a macro for the SMRT? Oh how I wish we used TPX here. Switch has bugs I remember fixing in TPX. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010 05:23:16 PM: From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com Hi list, I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I thought I'd come here. In the TPX SMF records -specifically the interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB statistics. It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the SACB high water mark. Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is? What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined to TPX. If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions signed onto TPX concurrently. I'm hoping the SACB field is the latter of these. TIA. Rex - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-TPX and SMF question
Hi Kirk, and others, Yes, TPX has a macro to define the SMRT. The documentation (systems programmer's guide) also has layouts of the SMF records. The doc talks about fields called MONSACBC and MONSACBH, defined as current SACBs and SACB high water mark. Unfortunately, that's the extent of the definitions. Hence my question to the group. Also, yes, there is a TPXOPER command that will give me a snapshot of what I want. But since we are looking for trending information rather than a one-time snapshot, I needed something that wouldn't require me to sit at a terminal and keep hitting the enter key to get me the info. A developer from CA contacted me offline and gave me a much better definition of what the SACB is and what it does. The information he gave me showed me that I was looking in the wrong place, and he then pointed me to a different SMF record that did give me the info I was looking for. In the session interval record, there is a field called M9UCNT that shows the number of sessions currently attached to an application. It gave me the info I needed, once I turned on interval recording. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Talman Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA-TPX and SMF question 2 decades ago, when I was a TPX developer, they were SaveAreaControlBlock. They were getmained at startup below the line and chained together. They contained a savearea and two 6 word workareas used by variable management. The available chain was anchored in the SMRT or the SMRT extension. I had code to move some of them above the line and to create stacks but it was never implemented before CA bought out Legent. There should be an TPXOPER command that gives you what you want. For building exits, is there a macro for the SMRT? Oh how I wish we used TPX here. Switch has bugs I remember fixing in TPX. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010 05:23:16 PM: From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com Hi list, I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I thought I'd come here. In the TPX SMF records -specifically the interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB statistics. It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the SACB high water mark. Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is? What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined to TPX. If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions signed onto TPX concurrently. I'm hoping the SACB field is the latter of these. TIA. Rex - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OMEGAMON Manuals and 410 z196 Support
Where can I find OMEGAMON manuals? They do not seem to be available on the IBM web site Also OMEGAMON 420 has z196 support, but how about OMEGAMON 410? -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMEGAMON Manuals and 410 z196 Support
Not sure if this will get you there - as I don't know what Omegamon manuals you're looking for... http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/tdmktlist.html Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OMEGAMON Manuals and 410 z196 Support Where can I find OMEGAMON manuals? They do not seem to be available on the IBM web site Also OMEGAMON 420 has z196 support, but how about OMEGAMON 410? -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: initiator
Do you have any exits that allocate datasets? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 07:03, Carroll, William carro...@grangeinsurance.com wrote: Good morning all. I have a problem I would like to put out here and see if anybody else has seen it. The last couple of days I am having a batch job issue the message 'ief099i' waiting for datasets. The wait is being caused by an initiator that has not freed a dataset. In last night's case a job executed at 21:30 and ended successfully. The other job started to execute at 23:45 and issued the message. The local fix is to purge the initiator of the job that is holding the dsn. Thank YOU Bill Carroll CICS Systems Programmer\ Grange Insurance carro...@grangeinsurance.com DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: initiator
Is the dataset that is in question in the JCL of the first job? Are there any hints in that job's allocation messages? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Carroll, William Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: initiator Good morning all. I have a problem I would like to put out here and see if anybody else has seen it. The last couple of days I am having a batch job issue the message 'ief099i' waiting for datasets. The wait is being caused by an initiator that has not freed a dataset. In last night's case a job executed at 21:30 and ended successfully. The other job started to execute at 23:45 and issued the message. The local fix is to purge the initiator of the job that is holding the dsn. Thank YOU Bill Carroll CICS Systems Programmer\ Grange Insurance carro...@grangeinsurance.com DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-TPX and SMF question
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010 05:23:16 PM: From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com Hi list, I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I thought I'd come here. In the TPX SMF records -specifically the interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB statistics. It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the SACB high water mark. Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is? What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined to TPX. If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions signed onto TPX concurrently. I'm hoping the SACB field is the latter of these. TIA. Rex With SAS (or WPS) and MXG, I expect that you can derive this metric from the Application LOGON/LOGOFF (or alternatively Terminal SIGNON/SIGNOFF) TPX SMF record type/subtype combinations, using the MXG-unique VMXGCNCR macro facility. Otherwise with the TPX data-source record types, you may be able to use some other data analysis tool to generate the desired information. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How long for SMF to switch
That's true, but you'll dump less often. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How long for SMF to switch If you are running a large CICS shop, and you have CICS TS v3 or higher, make sure you have compression of the SMF 110 records turned on. That will greatly reduce the amount of data put to the MAN files. Yes, but once the dataset is full it will still take as long to dump. 2G is still 2G, or whatever size your MAN's are. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-TPX and SMF question
Scott, If I needed to be exact, and wanted to parse through every logon/logoff to keep count of how many are logged on at a particular moment in time, I could do that. However, I don't need to be that exact, counts every 15 minutes work just fine for my need. The problem wasn't gaining access to SAS/MXG, it was a problem of finding the correct variable in the correct MXG dataset to give me the info I need. I found it in the TPXSESSN dataset, in the TPXCCNT variable. As I mentioned in a later post, I found which SMF record/variable was needed with some timely help from a CA developer. From there, getting to the correct MXG dataset/variable was a trivial task. Thanks. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Barry Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA-TPX and SMF question IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010 05:23:16 PM: From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com Hi list, I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I thought I'd come here. In the TPX SMF records -specifically the interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB statistics. It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the SACB high water mark. Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is? What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined to TPX. If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions signed onto TPX concurrently. I'm hoping the SACB field is the latter of these. TIA. Rex With SAS (or WPS) and MXG, I expect that you can derive this metric from the Application LOGON/LOGOFF (or alternatively Terminal SIGNON/SIGNOFF) TPX SMF record type/subtype combinations, using the MXG-unique VMXGCNCR macro facility. Otherwise with the TPX data-source record types, you may be able to use some other data analysis tool to generate the desired information. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?
Cobe, You do have me a little confused when you talk about capping at 24 MSUs and setting the WEIGHT (which I assume is the LPAR weighting factor) to 160. These are different. Also, the LPAR weighting factor is just a relative number. It does not relate to MIPS. As far as the LPAR going over the cap in any given interval, that can occur as long as the MSU four hour rolling average (4HRA) remains below the cap. It is when the 4HRA hits the cap that you'll see the peaks chopped off. Once the 4HRA falls below the cap the system can once again spike up above that. If you have a cap set, and you are on sub-capacity pricing, IBM's software charges for the sub-capacity priced software will be based on the highest 4HRA for the month, but will never exceed the cap. Actually, if you are not using sub-capacity pricing for your software, I can't think of any reason to set a cap. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 5:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC? Hi list, We aim to cap the only active LPAR on the CEC(26 MSU) to 24 MSU. But, I'm a bit confuse when I checked the RMF CPU Activity report as below, which shows that with the interval, SYS2 was able to use up to 25 MSU. (Highlighted) So my questions are: 1. Is this because CPU capping is not working for only one active LPAR on the CEC? If it's the case, any reference? 2. Or, this is related to the WEIGHT value we used to CAP? in our case, we reference our CEC capacity is 26 MSU (about 171 MIPS), target to CAP 24 MSU (160 MIPS). . But, for client's sake, we use MIPS value as the WEIGHT,i.e 160. (as highlighted in the report). And, this mislead the Lpar scheduler that it is over 100% of the CEC. Thus, SYS2 can use as much as it needs. 3. Or any other posibility? Pls shed some light, thanks a lot! PAGE2 z/OS V1R8SYSTEM ID SYS2 START 08/17/2010-03.00.00 INTERVAL 000.59.59 RPT VERSION V1R8 RMF END 08/17/2010-04.00.00 CYCLE 0.100 SECONDS MVS PARTITION NAMESYS2NUMBER OF PHYSICAL PROCESSORS 4 GROUP NAME N/A IMAGE CAPACITY 24 CP2 LIMITN/A NUMBER OF CONFIGURED PARTITIONS 5 ICF 2 WAIT COMPLETION NO DISPATCH INTERVAL DYNAMIC - PARTITION DATA - -- LOGICAL PARTITION PROCESSOR DATA -- -- AVERAGE PROCESSOR UTILIZATION PERCENTAGES -- MSU -CAPPING-- PROCESSOR- DISPATCH TIME DATA LOGICAL PROCESSORS --- PHYSICAL PROCESSORS --- NAME S WGT DEFACT DEF WLM% NUM TYPE EFFECTIVE TOTAL EFFECTIVETOTAL LPAR MGMT EFFECTIVE TOTAL SYS2 A 1600 25 YES0.02 CP01.55.49.238 01.55.53.278 96.5296.57 0.06 96.52 96.57 SYS6 A100 0 YES0.02 CP00.00.00.000 00.00.00.0000.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 *PHYSICAL* 00.00.01.367 0.02 0.02 -- -- -- TOTAL 01.55.49.238 01.55.54.645 0.08 96.52 96.59 CFP01AH2 A DED1 ICF 00.59.59.655 00.59.59.725 99.9999.99 0.00 50.00 50.00 CFP02AH2 A DED1 ICF 00.59.59.666 00.59.59.708 99.9999.99 0.00 50.00 50.00 *PHYSICAL* 00.00.00.422 0.01 0.01 -- -- -- TOTAL 01.59.59.321 01.59.59.855 0.01 99.99 100.0 SYS8 -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at
Re: How long for SMF to switch
That's true, but you'll dump less often. My point was to address the issue of how long it takes to dump, which was the issue. The consensus seems to be 1.5 minutes is too long. I don't believe that is an issue; others do. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How long for SMF to switch
OP was concerned about the time from I SMF to the actual switch. Which I think was well explained by the type 19 discussion. I'd rather a dump completed quickly, but 1.5 minutes wouldn't worry me. SMF filling so fast that 1.5 minutes was to long would really worry me. :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How long for SMF to switch That's true, but you'll dump less often. My point was to address the issue of how long it takes to dump, which was the issue. The consensus seems to be 1.5 minutes is too long. I don't believe that is an issue; others do. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
-snip You can get in trouble even if you know those nuances, because an idiom has semantics based on factors beyond vocabulary. Understanding the individual words perfectly doesn't help. -unsnip- I remember from college of a translator program that covered multiple languages. The phrase Out of sight, out of mind was fed in, in English. After translation to a number of other languages and finally back to English, it came back Invisible, insane. My point: idioms and other common phrases can often be the hardest to translate to another language, even if you think you know all the possible constructs. Simply translating words isn't enough! Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How long for SMF to switch
---snip-- Rick, Not the case. I did a I SMF on a sandbox that had absolutely nothing running on it and the switch took 3 seconds. Rex --unsnip--- I stand corrected. Thank you. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 4
I just noticed that a draft of the long missing ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 4 is now available on the redbooks web site. The final version should be available by the end of the year. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On 3 November 2010 17:27, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: I remember from college of a translator program that covered multiple languages. The phrase Out of sight, out of mind was fed in, in English. After translation to a number of other languages and finally back to English, it came back Invisible, insane. I think the Blind Idiot version hits the spot better. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 4
I don't have volume 12 either. Have I missed that? On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 16:48:11 -0500, John Laubenheimer jlaubenhei...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: I just noticed that a draft of the long missing ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 4 is now available on the redbooks web site. The final version should be available by the end of the year. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 4
Yes, you have. It was published in January, 2010. John P. Baker Chief Software Architect HFD Technologies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 4 I don't have volume 12 either. Have I missed that? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?
Also see the PR/SM Planning Guide which has a good discussion called Capping in a single logical partition. ---start quote In order to use capping for an LP on a CPC where there is a need for only one active LP using shared CPs, you must define and activate a second dummy LP. The dummy LP must also be defined as using shared CPs. The weights of the two LPs can be adjusted to attain the desired cap for the one LP that will actually be used. ---end quote thanks Peter On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:59:39 +0800, Cobe Xu cob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, We aim to cap the only active LPAR on the CEC(26 MSU) to 24 MSU. But, I'm a bit confuse when I checked the RMF CPU Activity report as below, which shows that with the interval, SYS2 was able to use up to 25 MSU. (Highlighted) So my questions are: 1. Is this because CPU capping is not working for only one active LPAR on the CEC? If it's the case, any reference? 2. Or, this is related to the WEIGHT value we used to CAP? in our case, we reference our CEC capacity is 26 MSU (about 171 MIPS), target to CAP 24 MSU (160 MIPS). . But, for client's sake, we use MIPS value as the WEIGHT,i.e 160. (as highlighted in the report). And, this mislead the Lpar scheduler that it is over 100% of the CEC. Thus, SYS2 can use as much as it needs. 3. Or any other posibility? Pls shed some light, thanks a lot! PAGE2 z/OS V1R8SYSTEM ID SYS2 START 08/17/2010-03.00.00 INTERVAL 000.59.59 RPT VERSION V1R8 RMF END 08/17/2010-04.00.00 CYCLE 0.100 SECONDS MVS PARTITION NAMESYS2NUMBER OF PHYSICAL PROCESSORS 4 GROUP NAME N/A IMAGE CAPACITY 24 CP2 LIMITN/A NUMBER OF CONFIGURED PARTITIONS 5 ICF 2 WAIT COMPLETION NO DISPATCH INTERVAL DYNAMIC - PARTITION DATA - -- LOGICAL PARTITION PROCESSOR DATA -- -- AVERAGE PROCESSOR UTILIZATION PERCENTAGES -- MSU -CAPPING-- PROCESSOR- DISPATCH TIME DATA LOGICAL PROCESSORS --- PHYSICAL PROCESSORS --- NAME S WGT DEFACT DEF WLM% NUM TYPE EFFECTIVE TOTAL EFFECTIVETOTAL LPAR MGMT EFFECTIVE TOTAL SYS2 A 1600 25 YES0.02 CP01.55.49.238 01.55.53.278 96.5296.57 0.06 96.52 96.57 SYS6 A100 0 YES0.02 CP00.00.00.000 00.00.00.0000.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 *PHYSICAL* 00.00.01.367 0.02 0.02 -- -- -- TOTAL 01.55.49.238 01.55.54.645 0.08 96.52 96.59 CFP01AH2 A DED1 ICF 00.59.59.655 00.59.59.725 99.9999.99 0.00 50.00 50.00 CFP02AH2 A DED1 ICF 00.59.59.666 00.59.59.708 99.9999.99 0.00 50.00 50.00 *PHYSICAL* 00.00.00.422 0.01 0.01 -- -- -- TOTAL 01.59.59.321 01.59.59.855 0.01 99.99 100.0 SYS8 -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?
It is possible for the 4HRA of an LPAR to go above the defined capacity limit. This is because the limit goes on typically after four hours of your workload getting bigger and bigger. Eventually the 4HRA exceeds the defined capacity and the cap goes on. As the four hour rolling average goes forward, the values from 4 hours ago, then 3h45m ago, then 3h30m ago are removed from the calculation of that average, and values at the capping level are going into the calculation, so the 4HRA may keep rising for a few intervals. It may even stabilize above the set defined capacity. Back in 2004 I coined the term bonus MSUs for these MSUs that are above the defined capacity value. When SCRT processes your SMF data, if the 4HRA in the data is above the defined capacity value SCRT ignores those bonus MSUs. The TsCs of sub-capacity WLC indicate you will not be charged for more MSUs than the Defined Capacity Value. Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM SW Pricing, LPARs, and IRD Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMEGAMON Manuals and 410 z196 Support
George Henke asks: Also OMEGAMON 420 has z196 support, but how about OMEGAMON 410? No problem. Just stop by the IBM Software Support Lifecycle Web site. Here's the link to the Ts (for Tivoli): http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/index_t.html All the 4.1.x releases are still supported, and there is no end of support date announced for them. That means all those OMEGAMONs are at least compatible with new hardware introduced during their lifecycle. *Exploitation* is another matter (if relevant). But compatibility -- what IBM calls toleration -- is no problem. - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect STG Value Creation Complex Deals Team IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Changing Data Class attributes
To me the following is a no brainer: If there are going to be attributes contained in the data class structure in the SCDS which can be dynamically queried after the initial allocation of a data set, then there should be some means: 1. to alter a data set's data class name such as: ALTER datasetname DATACLAS(newdataclass). 2. for utilities such as dss, they should be able to re-drive the DC ACS routine when restoring(or recalling) data sets such as: COPY ... NULLDATACLAS | DATACLAS(dataclassname) -Original Message- Don, Yes I discovered this too and it is partially true: you cannot change the dataclass of a dataset, but some attributes of the dataclass will be used at open-time, so changing these attributes will be noted on subsequent opens of datasets with that dataclass. We ran into problems with DB2 and received the following error: IGD104I DB2TA.DSNDBC.DRCA02.XSGMNT2.J0001.A001 RETAINED, DDNAME=A002289C IKJ56231I DATA SET DB2TA.DSNDBC.DRCA02.XSGMNT2.J0001.A001 NOT ALLOCATED, SYSTEM OR INSTALLATION ERROR+ IKJ56231I DYNAMIC ALLOCATION REASON CODE IS X'04FC' IEF020I DB2TDBM1 DB2TDBM1 TCT I/O TABLE SIZE EXCEEDS THE 16MB MAXIMUM. 04FC (1276) Meaning: The request being processed would cause the TCT I/O table to exceed the maximum allowable size. Application Programmer Action: If the job that received the message has JCL DD statements that specify a high volume count, or the job that received the message uses dynamic allocation to allocate data sets and specifies a high volume count, reduce the volume count and rerun the job. If the volume count is derived from the data class, use a data class which has a lower volume count or contact the Storage Administrator. Storage Administrator Action: Reduce the volume count or dynamic volume count specified in the DATACLAS. Each time at open of a dataset the dynamic volume count value of the dataset's dataclass is used to create controlblocks to be able to extend the dataset. Chaning the dataclass's attributes will change the controlblocks on subsequent opens of the datasets. Here it is explained: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T165 It is not so much undocumented, as well as rather hidden in docs partly related to SMS. This is why I would like to be able to change the dataclass value of a dataset. If a large group of datasets have a specific dataclass and you want to change some dynamic attributes of the dataclass and it appear that they are unfit for some datasets, changing these dataset's dataclass to a more suitable class can solve problems. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e- mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
