Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

2011-08-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
As the failing PSW is problem state, and the abend location is off of R15, I
would expect that the SCRATCHD routine (which is not included) is at fault for
the abend. Of course the scratch failed, but that is the cause your routine
was driven.

On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:50:32 -0700 Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:

:All:
: 
:I need a little help, maybe a lot of help. I wrote an Assembler routine that 
is able to locate a dataset
:non-racf, non-sms and the routine finds it fine , no problem. When I go to 
CAMLST SCRATCH it
:i have a S0C1 it looks like in dfp...So here is my snippet of my source 
showing LOCATE and
:Scratch. The input dsname in coming in off SYSIN...
: 
: LOCATE INDAB
: LTR   R15,R15
: BZ    FOUNDIT
: MVI   OUTAREA,C' '
: MVC   OUTAREA+1(132),OUTAREA
: MVC   OUTAREA+2(19),=C'LOCATE DID NOT FIND'
: MVC   OUTAREA+22(44),DSNIN
: MVC   DSNSCR,DSNIN
: PUT   PRTOUT,OUTAREA
: B EXIT
:REMOVED  DS    0H
: WTO   'REMOVED ENTERED',ROUTCDE=(11)
: SR    R15,R15
: SR    R0,R0   NO UCB SUPPLIED
: SCRATCH DELDSN
: LTR   R15,R15
: BZ    SCRATCHD
: MVI   OUTAREA,C' '
: MVC   OUTAREA+1(132),OUTAREA
: MVC   OUTAREA+2(19),=C'SCRATCH FAILED'
: PUT   PRTOUT,OUTAREA
: B EXIT
:INDAB    CAMLST NAME,DSNQRY,,LOCAREA
:DSNQRY    DC    CL44' '
:LOCAREA  DS    0D
:     DS    265X'00'
:REMOVE   CAMLST UNCAT,DSNAME
:DSNAME   DS    CL44
:DELDSN   CAMLST SCRATCH,DSNSCR,,VOLIST
:DSNSCR    DS    CL44' '
:VOLIST DC    0F
:BLANKS   DC    CL133' '
: 
:Here is my output:
: 
:19.25.29 JOB00166  IGD17040I ERROR IN DADSM PROCESSING FOR DATA SET  570
:   570 SFORD.TEST1
:   570 HISTORIC RETURN CODE IS 4 DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS 
04280039
:19.25.29 JOB00166  IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGGDAS02 PROCESSING  571
:   571 RETURN CODE 4 REASON CODE 57
:   571 THE MODULE THAT DETECTED THE ERROR IS IGDVTSDA
:   571 SMS MODULE TRACE BACK - VTSDA VTSDL SSIRT
:   571 SYMPTOM RECORD CREATED, PROBLEM ID IS IGD8
:19.25.29 JOB00166  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  572
:   572 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C1  REASON CODE=0001
:   572  TIME=19.25.29  SEQ=00090  CPU=  ASID=001A
:   572  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  078D2000   0052  ILC 2  INTC 01
:   572    NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
:   572    NAME=UNKNOWN
:   572    DATA AT PSW  004C - 00FE14B8    
:   572    GR 0: 7CA0   1: 7C40
:   572   2: 0040   3: 008D79D4
:   572   4:    5: 
:   572   6: 008C6FE0   7: FD00
:   572   8: 008D0F88   9: 008CFCC8
:   572   A: 7B48   B: 008FF350
:   572   C: 7920   D: 7B48
:   572   E: 60007AB2   F: 0050
:   572  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
:19.25.29 JOB00166  IEF450I EXECLOCA STEP1 - ABEND=S0C1 U REASON=0001  
57
:   573 TIME=19.25.29
:19.25.29 JOB00166  IEF404I EXECLOCA - ENDED - TIME=19.25.29
:19.25.29 JOB00166  $HASP395 EXECLOCA ENDED
 
:My question is this...after a LOCATE finds the dataset ..Is it correct that 
the dataset name has to be moved into the DSNSCR variable name
:if so..I am puzzled, Do i need to allocate a UCB prior to this ...My 
assumption is that (1) find that dataset and (2) move name to deletet dataset 
name
:and call CAMLST scratch...

:Sorry for the long posting..What have i missed

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Re: Shared Hiperspace write serialization

2011-08-11 Thread Rob Scott
Is there a fundamental reason why are you using a hiperspace?

If you are trying to selectively copy SMF data from IEFU8x into somewhere that 
can be accessed/post-processed by another task/ASID, then using a common 
dataspace would be much easier and you could manage the serialization with CDS. 

As mentioned before, you could also consider PC-ss into another server ASID and 
write the data directly to private storage.

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Subject: Shared Hiperspace write serialization

I have looked in the manuals so if the answer is there, I could not find it.

I am looking to write to a hiperspace from the IEFU8x exits. I do not see 
anything to stop this but I am concerned about writing to a shared hiperspace 
from multiple addree spaces. Do I need to be concerned? If in a middle of a 
write operation an interrupt occurs and then from another address space issues 
a write to the hiperspace, what happens? 

Another thing I did not see in the manual. I assume an SREAD will retrieve the 
data in the order it was written. True?

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Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-11 Thread Shameem .K .Shoukath
hi,
  I want to report all datasets with DSNAME recalled in fromdate - todate  
dates 
 I used the command HSEND REPORT DAILY FUNCTION(RECALL) 
OUTDATASET(STR016.HSM.RECALL) to get the number of datasets recalled. 

but it just shows the count not the actual name of dsns


  Any help will be appreciated.

 




Thanks and Regards
Shameem K Shoukath

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Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-11 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
It doesn't look like any of the commands will do what you want.  You may have 
to examine the HSM log datasets or the job log.

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 Subject: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

 hi,
   I want to report all datasets with DSNAME recalled in fromdate - todate
 dates
  I used the command HSEND REPORT DAILY FUNCTION(RECALL)
 OUTDATASET(STR016.HSM.RECALL) to get the number of datasets recalled.

 but it just shows the count not the actual name of dsns

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Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-11 Thread Yifat Oren
Or HSM FSR SMF records ..  

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Subject: Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

It doesn't look like any of the commands will do what you want.  You may
have to examine the HSM log datasets or the job log.

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 Behalf Of Shameem .K .Shoukath
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:36 AM
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 Subject: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

 hi,
   I want to report all datasets with DSNAME recalled in fromdate - 
 todate dates  I used the command HSEND REPORT DAILY FUNCTION(RECALL)
 OUTDATASET(STR016.HSM.RECALL) to get the number of datasets recalled.

 but it just shows the count not the actual name of dsns

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DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is that 
SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to volume 
PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is what I get:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE 
(041A041D)

I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt failed 
because of :
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
Here is my jcl:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  
DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,   
 
//*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

Can someone suggest what I could try.

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Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Ford
Gerhard,
Absolutely right, found the S0C1 but had two other issues ..
 
1. Must issue a CAMLST  uncatalog request for dataset name first
2. Camlst scratch needs the correct parameter list
 
After doing 1 and 2 it worked like a champ.
Thanks for the help and I have to think about SMS ...
 
And thx to everyone else
Regards, 
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
 

From: Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

On 8/10/2011 7:50 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
 I need a little help, maybe a lot of help. I wrote an Assembler routine that 
 is able to locate a dataset
 non-racf, non-sms and the routine finds it fine , no problem. When I go to 
 CAMLST SCRATCH it
 i have a S0C1 it looks like in dfp...So here is mysnippet  of my source 
 showing LOCATE and
 Scratch. The input dsname in coming in off SYSIN...

You should not be getting an 0C1, but rather an error message.

1) You may use the same physical CL44 field for all requests, using the same 
name in the CAMLSTs.

2) SMS data sets are funny; you may only think you have a non-SMS data set? You 
need to look up the messages and the error codes. I prefer to use a DELETE 
(non-VSAM) statement with IDCAMS. You may LINK or ATTACH to IDCAMS passing it a 
SYSIN/SYSPRINT exit list; in the SYSIN exit you return the DELETE statement(s), 
then end of input. In the SYSPRINT exit, you choose whether to print or ignore 
the text given to you. It's a little more overhead, but well worthwhile. The 
information about the exits is in a figure, not the text, so some types of 
reader don't show it at all. If you want sample code, let me know.  Also if the 
LOCATE returns a MIGRAT as the volume serial, you can use an HDELETE statement 
to get rid of the data set without a recall.

3) SCRATCH may need an OVRD parameter.

4) The 0C1 at location 52 means that you tried to do an I/O (GET, PUT, etc.) to 
a closed DCB. Your fragment doesn't show a DCB for SYSPRINT, nor the OPEN and 
CLOSE statement; and if you have those, you could be missing the DD card.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Fwd: Message (There are several lists by the name of DB2-L on...)

2011-08-11 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
http://www.idug.org/p/fo/et/topic=19

is probably a good place to start.

Cheers,

Jantje.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo


I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is a 
spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
 
Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is that 
SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to volume 
PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is what I get:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE 
(041A041D)

I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt failed 
because of :
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
Here is my jcl:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  
DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,   
 
//*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

Can someone suggest what I could try.

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Refresh my memory, SYSLOG print class

2011-08-11 Thread Neal Eckhardt
OK, I couldn't find it in the two obvious places I looked, but where is the 
default print class set for the SYSLOG dataset. I expected JESPARM, but it is 
not making itself obvious.

Thanks,
Neal

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Don Imbriale
The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSINDD *
 DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
   OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*
 //

 Can someone suggest what I could try.



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Re: Refresh my memory, SYSLOG print class

2011-08-11 Thread Don Imbriale
Check out LOGCLS in IEASYSxx.

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Neal Eckhardt neckha...@cnyric.org wrote:

 OK, I couldn't find it in the two obvious places I looked, but where is the
 default print class set for the SYSLOG dataset. I expected JESPARM, but it
 is not making itself obvious.

 Thanks,
 Neal

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Re: Refresh my memory, SYSLOG print class

2011-08-11 Thread Lutz Hamann
Neal,

what about using LOGCLS=x in your IEASYSxx (in your hlq.PARMLIB) ?

   ciao  Lutz

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Don,
 
I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1    DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSIN    DD *
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
          BYPASSACS(**) -
          STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
          OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*
 //

 Can someone suggest what I could try.



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Re: Refresh my memory, SYSLOG print class

2011-08-11 Thread Neal Eckhardt
Thanks guys, Not the obvious place, but as soon as you said it.

Neal

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Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-11 Thread Robin Atwood
Wrt IEFUJV, the first word of the parameter list points to the Common
Exit parameter area. Offset +20 of that contains the user identification
with the description:

User identification. SMF places this data in all subsequent  
 records for this job. This field is initialized to EBCDIC
 blanks when each job is read.
  
 Note: This field is not related to the USER parameter on the 
 JOB statement.

So when the job deck is read and IEFUJV is called, the userid is not
known?

-Robin

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IEFUJV can do everything, and the TSO submit exit would not be
necessary.

Duplicating the code in the TSO submit exit is a way of being nice to
the users and letting them know at submit time that there is a problem
with the way they coded their job card. Otherwise, it can be much later
for a number of reasons before the job is failed by UJV. 

Tom Chicklon

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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:25:37 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote:

Two what?

There is one TSO submit exit (IKJEFF10), and one job verification exit
(IEFUJV).  These two exit points were created for different purposes
and
functions.
 
What can be done in IKJEFF10 that couldn't equally well be done in
IEFUJV?  Can IEFUJV detect that the job is being submitted from a
TSO session (whether by SUBMIT or writing directly to INTRDR)
and take any special action needed for TSO?  Does IEFUJV get control
too late to perform actions required for TSO?  Or does IEFUJV get
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Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 08/10/2011
   at 09:50 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:

The OMVS environment DOES NOT RUN IN YOUR TSO ADDRESS SPACE!

It doesn't run in the same process, but depending on how you're
configured you can have multiple processes in the same address space.
Do you know that the OMVS command forces execution in a separate
address space, or only that the Unix commands may run in a separate
address space?
 
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Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1228402832218791.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
08/10/2011
   at 10:45 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

What can be done in IKJEFF10 that couldn't equally well be done in
IEFUJV?

Issue a TPUT[1] to the user, or anything else that is dependent on a
TSO environment.

Can IEFUJV detect that the job is being submitted from a TSO session

Probably not.

Does IEFUJV get control
too late to perform actions required for TSO?  

Yes. What actions do you have in mind?

[1] If in foreground.
 
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Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1313020232.153.yahoomail...@web65509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on
08/10/2011
   at 04:50 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:

My question is this...after a LOCATE finds the dataset ..Is it
correct that the dataset name has to be moved into the DSNSCR
variable name

Normal practice would be to use a single dsname field. If you use
multiple fields then you can initialize all of them at the same time;
you don't need to wait until the LOCATE. You didn't provide the codee
for FOUNDIT, so I have no idea whether you are initializng the volume
list for SCRATCH, but even if you aren't that shouldn't cause an 0C1.
Which macro were you executing at the time of failure? If SCRATCH,
what was in R0?

Did you leave out an IEC message? The register contents are consistent
with trying to do I/O with a closed DCB. Look at the storage pointed
to by R1.
 
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Re: SETLOCK in IEFU85

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 638895340519.wa.dlikensinfosecinc@bama.ua.edu, on
08/10/2011
   at 08:46 AM, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com said:

You stated that I could not get the CML lock if the local lock is
help. Is there a problem getting the local lock if the CML lock is
held?

There is no the CML; a CML is just the local lock for an explicit
address space. A single dispatching unit is not allowed to hold
multiple local locks.
 
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Re: file allocation dcb order

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
cabefxsoet9vpbx6a6h6suiesmppts9o8+gp7otlk_c6dweq...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/10/2011
   at 12:11 PM, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com said:

During dataset creation, the only DCB information available is from
the allocation parameters (i.e. JCL or SVC 99),

It's also possible to create a dataset with SVC 32, although I don't
know what happens if you try it on an SMS volume.
 
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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Greg Shirey
It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSINDD *
DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
  BYPASSACS(**) -
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*


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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES  and
5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE

It appears that your storage group, ISTINT1, does not have enough space to 
accommodate your allocation.   If someone called me 
in regards to this issue, I'd ask why they weren't directing this to tape. 
 If it had to go to disk for some reason,  I'd look at the 
pool - possibly change the primary  2ndary allocations  allow it to go 
multi-volume.

I'd also consider adding another volume to the SG as a last resort.
ddk








TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY 
SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR 
QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT 
SPACE (04


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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
So I think the original poster wanted to go to a non-SMS volume - which I 
forgot when posting my 
last response.

He's going to need to talk to someone who know the SMS routines in his 
shop.  In my shop, I have 
a StorClas which can be used to push a normally SMS controlled DS outside 
of SMS  when specified
by an authorized user.   Authorized users are generally people in Tech 
Svcs.

ddk



///
THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES  and
5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE

It appears that your storage group, ISTINT1, does not have enough space to 

accommodate your allocation.   If someone called me 
in regards to this issue, I'd ask why they weren't directing this to tape. 

 If it had to go to disk for some reason,  I'd look at the 
pool - possibly change the primary  2ndary allocations  allow it to go 
multi-volume.

I'd also consider adding another volume to the SG as a last resort.
ddk



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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1    DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSIN    DD *
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
          BYPASSACS(**) -
          STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
          OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*


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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
 I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however 

 for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN

if hlq ZWAXPG is 'trapped' by SMS, it means that your SMS ACS routines 

are coded in order to assign a SC and a SG (ISTINT1) to datasets whose hlq is 
ZWAXPG.

Which doesn't mean it is bad. 

The problem which you seem to have here is that SG ISTINT1, which has 5 
volumes, is not
able to allocate 1055 Cyls as primary space. 

Can you try to reduce the primary space with a smaller value ?
Can you try to allocate the dataset with another SMS-owned hlq which will 
choose a 

bigger SG ?


 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Esmee,

Are you positively, absolutely sure that volume VE6C01 is non-SMS managed?  How 
much space is on the volume?

Can you post an updated JCL stream with the SYS1. output dataset along with 
the messages, being that there were a couple errors that you have fixed.

Rex



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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Greg,

I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) -
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSINDD *
DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
  BYPASSACS(**) -
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*


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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:02:37 -0700, esmie moo wrote:

Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


Replace STORCLAS(NONSMS) with NSC NMC

Norbert Friemel

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Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Rowe
I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought that, by definition, each
process was a separate address space.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
 on 08/10/2011
at 09:50 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:

 The OMVS environment DOES NOT RUN IN YOUR TSO ADDRESS SPACE!

 It doesn't run in the same process, but depending on how you're
 configured you can have multiple processes in the same address space.
 Do you know that the OMVS command forces execution in a separate
 address space, or only that the Unix commands may run in a separate
 address space?

 --
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 ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html
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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Rowe
Esmie,

Those control cards are input to DSS, and have absolutely nothing to do with
the allocation of TAPE1, which is in JCL.  By the time DSS reads the control
cards, the allocation of the datasets defined in JCL is already complete.
Those keywords in DSS control statements are used for dynamic allocation of
datasets in COPY operations, and are not valid for DUMP.

 If you want TAPE1 to be non-SMS, then there must be something on the JCL
statement that tells the SMS STORCLAS routine to assign a null STORCLAS to
the allocation.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Greg,

 I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in
 the job:
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


 From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your
 email.
 NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

 Greg Shirey
 Ben E. Keith Company

 
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
 esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 Don,

 I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using
 both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1
 DSN
 ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (04

 SYS1 ATTEMPT:

 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VO
 IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

 From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
 DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

 - Don Imbriale

 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 
 
  I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which
 is
  a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
 
  Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
  From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
  Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
 
  Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
  I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
  that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
  volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
  what I get:
  IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
  SYSTEM ERR
  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
  SET
 
  ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
  IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
  QUIESCED
  IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
  1
  WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
  SELECTION.
  THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
  WERE:ISTINT1
  IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
  SPACE (041A041D)
 
  I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
  failed because of :
  ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
  2011
  IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
  MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
  Here is my jcl:
 
  //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
  //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
  //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
  //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
  //TAPE1DD
  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
  //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
  //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
  //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
  //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
  //SYSINDD *
 DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
   OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
  /*
 

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Re: HiperDispatch with mostly small LPARs

2011-08-11 Thread Santosh Kandi
I think it will depend on how many books you have. HD will likely help your 
largest LPAR because HD will give exclusive access to 8 physical CP’s across 2 
chips which will result in better cache utilization.

We have 2 LPARS across 8 Physicals with 45%/55% weight distribution and are 
seeing about 5% benefit from HD. Turn on SMF113’s before you turn on HD so that 
you can measure the uplift.

I just gave a pitch at SHARE and you can see some of SMF 113 metrics:
http://share.confex.com/share/117/webprogram/Session9689.html

Of course it also depends on your workload.

Regards,
Santosh 

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I am surprised dfdss is not objecting to the use of BYPASSACS and 
STORCLAS in that context.  My manuals (z/OS 1.10) don't show those as 
valid parameters for a DUMP command.  They normally apply to placement 
of target datasets of a RESTORE or COPY, not to placement of a dfdss 
dump dataset from DUMP.


The installation ACS routines must be written with hooks in order for 
a DASD Administrator to twiddle JCL allocation parameters to force 
allocation to a specific SMS volume, some volser naming convention for 
volumes that are excluded from SMS, some dataset naming convention for 
datasets that are excluded from SMS control, etc.  Only your local SMS 
Administrator would know what these are and usually their usage would be 
restricted in some way.  Without obtaining that unique information about 
your installation, you are unlikely to stumble on the method.


An alternative might be to just accept SMS control of your dump output 
dataset and use a smaller primary space but multiple volumes so you are 
not trying to find all that space on a single volume.  Whether that is 
acceptable to your installation may depend on local recommendations 
about sizes of files that should be placed in various SMS pools.  Adding 
the COMPRESS option to your DUMP command may also shrink the size of 
the dump dataset by a factor of 2 or 3 depending on the nature of the 
data on the volume, but that will also cost some additional CPU for the 
compression.

  Joel C. Ewing

On 08/11/2011 09:02 AM, esmie moo wrote:

Greg,

I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


From: Greg Shireywgshi...@benekeith.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie 
moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbrialedon.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie mooesmie_...@yahoo.ca  wrote:




I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
From: esmie mooesmie_...@yahoo.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,

I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
what I get:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
SET

ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
SPACE (041A041D)

I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
failed because of :
ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
2011
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

Here is my jcl:

//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
//TAPE1DD
DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Norbert,
 
I received the same error messages.  SMS is still trying to trap it.:
 
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 10:18:27 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 
 
I tried with using the output tape dsn as SYS1 but I got the error:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE 


 
 Here is my job:
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSSMS(**) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  NULLSTORCLAS  -   
  NULLMGMTCLAS -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

 Here's the VTOC of the output volume:
 Device    Volume    Nbr   Free   - Largest -    Nbr    Nbr   
Nbr  Type Status   Serial    Cyl Cyl   Track    Cyl Track    Ext   Users  
  
6C01 3390 Private  VE6C01  10017   10012   0  10012 0  1  0   


From: Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13:50 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:02:37 -0700, esmie moo wrote:

Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


Replace STORCLAS(NONSMS) with NSC NMC

Norbert Friemel

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Re: syntax for stacked commands using JES2 Autocmds

2011-08-11 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Andy, 



Looking at the JES2 manual, under the detail for $VS, is this this example - 



$vs, 'v (234,235,236),offline','d a'  



which shows that while you can issue multiple  commands, you will need to 
enclose each in a separate set of single quotes with a comma between each 
command, not a semi-colon.  Be careful about how many commands you try to to 
stack.  If a second sommand is issued for an address space that is still 
processing the previous command, you might get a MODIFY REJECTED, TASK BUSY 
response. 



HTH, 

Linda 


- Original Message -


From: akoc...@netzero.net akoc...@netzero.net 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:38:48 AM 
Subject: syntax for stacked commands using JES2 Autocmds 

I am attempting to issue multiple commands with a single JES2 Autocmds entry. 

I defined the commands using: 

$TA 4,I=86400,T=23.59,'$VS,''V SYSLOG,HARDCPY,OFF,UNCOND;W CLOSE''' 

I listed the commands using: 
$TA 4                                                               
$HASP604 ID 4    T= 23.59 I=86400 L=INTERNAL $VS,'V SYSLOG,HARDCPY,OFF 
,UNCOND;W CLOSE'   

But, when JES2 tried to run the commands I received: 
           
23:59:00.80 INTERNAL 0290  V SYSLOG,HARDCPY,OFF,UNCOND;W CLOSE     
23:59:00.80 INTERNAL 0090  IEE309I VARY     UNIDENTIFIABLE KEYWORD 


Can anyone show me how to specify stacked commands on a single JES2 autocmds 
entry? 

Thanks 
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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Walter,
I need to write the output to a NON-SMS volume because it (volume) will be 
accessed by a test system which has different SMS rules.

From: Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:08:20 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however 

 for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN

if hlq ZWAXPG is 'trapped' by SMS, it means that your SMS ACS routines 

are coded in order to assign a SC and a SG (ISTINT1) to datasets whose hlq is 
ZWAXPG.

Which doesn't mean it is bad. 

The problem which you seem to have here is that SG ISTINT1, which has 5 
volumes, is not
able to allocate 1055 Cyls as primary space. 

Can you try to reduce the primary space with a smaller value ?
Can you try to allocate the dataset with another SMS-owned hlq which will 
choose a 

bigger SG ?


 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Scott,
 
Thanks for pointing that out.  You could be right.  I will look around for a 
jcl to by STORCLAS. 

From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:35:59 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmie,

Those control cards are input to DSS, and have absolutely nothing to do with
the allocation of TAPE1, which is in JCL.  By the time DSS reads the control
cards, the allocation of the datasets defined in JCL is already complete.
Those keywords in DSS control statements are used for dynamic allocation of
datasets in COPY operations, and are not valid for DUMP.

If you want TAPE1 to be non-SMS, then there must be something on the JCL
statement that tells the SMS STORCLAS routine to assign a null STORCLAS to
the allocation.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Greg,

 I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in
 the job:
      BYPASSACS(**) -
      STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


 From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your
 email.
 NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

 Greg Shirey
 Ben E. Keith Company

 
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
 esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 Don,

 I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using
 both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1
 DSN
 ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (04

 SYS1 ATTEMPT:

 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VO
 IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

 From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
 DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

 - Don Imbriale

 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 
 
  I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which
 is
  a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
 
  Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
  From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
  Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
 
  Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
  I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
  that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
  volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
  what I get:
  IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
  SYSTEM ERR
  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
  SET
 
  ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
  IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
  QUIESCED
  IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
  1
  WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
  SELECTION.
  THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
  WERE:ISTINT1
  IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
  SPACE (041A041D)
 
  I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
  failed because of :
  ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
  2011
  IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
  MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
  Here is my jcl:
 
  //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
  //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
  //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
  //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
  //TAPE1    DD
  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
  //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
  //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
  //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
  //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
  //SYSIN    DD *
     DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
           BYPASSACS(**) -
           STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
           OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
  /*
 

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Rex,
 
Yes, I ensured that it was non-SMS.  Here is the VTOC:
  Device    Volume    Nbr   Free   - Largest -    Nbr    Nbr    
 Nbr  Type Status   Serial    Cyl Cyl   Track    Cyl Track    Ext   Users   
    
 6C01 3390 Private  VE6C01  10017   10012   0  10012 0  1  0    
    
    1 volumes - Total   10017   10012   0   


From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13:12 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Are you positively, absolutely sure that volume VE6C01 is non-SMS managed?  How 
much space is on the volume?

Can you post an updated JCL stream with the SYS1. output dataset along with 
the messages, being that there were a couple errors that you have fixed.

Rex



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Greg,

I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
      BYPASSACS(**) -
      STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie 
moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1    DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSIN    DD *
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP 

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

On 8/11/2011 8:25 AM, Scott Rowe wrote:

I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought that, by definition, each
process was a separate address space.


Check out

z/OS UNIX System Services Command Reference
z/OS UNIX System Services User's Guide
z/OS UNIX System Services Programming: Assembler Callable Services

for _BPX_SHAREAS




On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net  wrote:


Ina6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 08/10/2011
at 09:50 AM, McKown, Johnjohn.mck...@healthmarkets.com  said:


The OMVS environment DOES NOT RUN IN YOUR TSO ADDRESS SPACE!


It doesn't run in the same process, but depending on how you're
configured you can have multiple processes in the same address space.
Do you know that the OMVS command forces execution in a separate
address space, or only that the Unix commands may run in a separate
address space?





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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing

On 08/11/2011 09:52 AM, esmie moo wrote:

Norbert,

...


  Here is my job:
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
//DISK1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR
//TAPE1DD  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
//DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
//UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
//DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
//SYSINDD *
 DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
   BYPASSSMS(**) -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   NULLSTORCLAS  -
   NULLMGMTCLAS -
   OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
/*
//

...
And, forgot to mention:
TRTCH is not relevant to a DASD dataset and BLKSIZE should not be 
specified unless you manually calculate what would give two blocks per 
track --  forcing  blksize 32760 on a 3390 means you will throw away 
about 40% of the useful space on each track and correspondingly increase 
the number of tracks required for the dump dataset.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Esmee,

Try coding STORCLAS=storage-class-name which in your case would be 
storclas=nonsms

See JCL Reference Chap 12 DD Statement for more details

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
I am trying to track him down.  I looked at the SMS rules and there is a 
non-SMS storage class called STORCLAS=NONSMS in the ACS.



From: Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:04:08 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
David,
 
I gave that a try however I got the same problem :
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

Here is my JCL:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.TEST4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    STORCLAS=NONSMS,  
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  

I noticed that the NONSMS STORCLAS does not have a FILTLIST.  Maybe this could 
be the problem.  

From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:09:24 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Try coding STORCLAS=storage-class-name which in your case would be 
storclas=nonsms

See JCL Reference Chap 12 DD Statement for more details

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread McKown, John
look at _BPX_SHAREAS. There are some cases where multiple UNIX processes run in 
a single z/OS address space. Personally, I don't much care for it. But it could 
be a performance enhancement.

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 I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought that, by 
 definition, each
 process was a separate address space.
 

 

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Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
Sharing an address space also allows you to run shell scripts in batch and
allow commands to access DD cards in the original address space.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:54 AM, McKown, John 
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:

 look at _BPX_SHAREAS. There are some cases where multiple UNIX processes
 run in a single z/OS address space. Personally, I don't much care for it.
 But it could be a performance enhancement.

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  I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought that, by
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  process was a separate address space.
 

 

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
At this point you really need to resolve this with your storage admin person. 
There is no way for us to determine if the storclass ACS routine is properly 
written.

If it's my shop, I would put in the following at or near the top of the 
Storclass ACS routine:

WHEN (DSN EQ 'fully.qualified.dsn')   
  DO /* GIVE esmee OPTION OF DIRECTINg  */
SET STORCLAS = '' /* ALLOW ALLOCATION TO ve6c01   */  
EXIT 
  END 

Inelegant but it will work. 
  

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor


-Original Message-
From: esmie moo [mailto:esmie_...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

David,
 
I gave that a try however I got the same problem :
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

Here is my JCL:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.TEST4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    STORCLAS=NONSMS,  
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  

I noticed that the NONSMS STORCLAS does not have a FILTLIST.  Maybe this could 
be the problem.  

From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:09:24 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Try coding STORCLAS=storage-class-name which in your case would be 
storclas=nonsms

See JCL Reference Chap 12 DD Statement for more details

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
 I gave that a try however I got the same problem :

Esmie,

is the SYSDA esoteric name conflicting with SHRPP4 volume ?
Wht happens if you give SYSALLDA instead of SYDA  on TAPE1 DD ?

 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo


Walter,
 
You hit the nail on the head.  SYSALLDA worked.  I don't know why SYSDA doesn't 
eventhough it is part of the esoteric.
 
Thanks so much for you invaluable help.
 
Thanks to all the posters who helped with this post.  You all are a smashing 
bunch !!
 
From: Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:13:08 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 I gave that a try however I got the same problem :

Esmie,

is the SYSDA esoteric name conflicting with SHRPP4 volume ?
Wht happens if you give SYSALLDA instead of SYDA  on TAPE1 DD ?

 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: Refresh my memory, SYSLOG print class

2011-08-11 Thread Ed Finnell
Also look at you commands. ===W L
 
Is part of the midnight mover.
 
 
In a message dated 8/11/2011 8:37:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
neckha...@cnyric.org writes:

but as  soon as you said  it.



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Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Ford
Shmuel,
 
Yep one of the output files was closed and I issued a write, i fixed that...
The actual problem was in the Scratch code, i also fixed that, you need to 
supply volser, and devtype
before issuing. After I made the changes all was good in Toontown. Thank you 
for your response,
it's much appreciated. My problem is i am getting olderas everyone is ...61 
in 9 days
lol

Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
 

From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

In 1313020232.153.yahoomail...@web65509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on
08/10/2011
   at 04:50 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:

My question is this...after a LOCATE finds the dataset ..Is it
correct that the dataset name has to be moved into the DSNSCR
variable name

Normal practice would be to use a single dsname field. If you use
multiple fields then you can initialize all of them at the same time;
you don't need to wait until the LOCATE. You didn't provide the codee
for FOUNDIT, so I have no idea whether you are initializng the volume
list for SCRATCH, but even if you aren't that shouldn't cause an 0C1.
Which macro were you executing at the time of failure? If SCRATCH,
what was in R0?

Did you leave out an IEC message? The register contents are consistent
with trying to do I/O with a closed DCB. Look at the storage pointed
to by R1.

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Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

2011-08-11 Thread DanD

Scott,

To handle SMS you need to SCRATCH first then UNCAT (can't have uncataloged 
SMS data sets).

Or you can invoke IDCAMS to do the DELETE and do it all at once.

Dan

-Original Message- 
From: Scott Ford
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:41 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main 
Subject: Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH


Gerhard,
Absolutely right, found the S0C1 but had two other issues ..

1. Must issue a CAMLST uncatalog request for dataset name first
2. Camlst scratch needs the correct parameter list

After doing 1 and 2 it worked like a champ.
Thanks for the help and I have to think about SMS ...

And thx to everyone else
Regards,
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
 I don't know why SYSDA doesn't eventhough it is part of the esoteric

using HCD, try to list all devices defined under the SYSDA esoteric name
and see if SHRPP4 address is defined within this group. My guess is SHRPP4
is NOT defined to SYSDA. 
 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Ford
Thanks much appreciated because I dont know SMS that well


Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
 

From: DanD mvs-j...@sympatico.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

Scott,

To handle SMS you need to SCRATCH first then UNCAT (can't have uncataloged SMS 
data sets).
Or you can invoke IDCAMS to do the DELETE and do it all at once.

Dan

-Original Message- From: Scott Ford
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:41 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main 
Subject: Re: CAMLST LOCATE and SCRATCH

Gerhard,
Absolutely right, found the S0C1 but had two other issues ..

1. Must issue a CAMLST uncatalog request for dataset name first
2. Camlst scratch needs the correct parameter list

After doing 1 and 2 it worked like a champ.
Thanks for the help and I have to think about SMS ...

And thx to everyone else
Regards,
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com

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Re: file allocation dcb order

2011-08-11 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip--
It's also possible to create a dataset with SVC 32, although I don't 
know what happens if you try it on an SMS volume.

-unsnip--
I respectfully submit that the use of SVC 32 is archaic and cumbersome 
and should be discouraged in favor of DYNALLOC (SVC 99) whenever possible.


How many of our list participants are sufficiently skillful to construct 
a partial DSCB correctly?


Rick

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Re: FTP Question

2011-08-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:25:53 -0500, Chris Mason wrote:

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b990/5.44

Because compression is such a light-weight process - here a comparison with 
the heavy-weight processes compaction or encryption is valid! - it has a very 
small overhead. It causes a major reduction on the volume of data to be 
moved when the data consists of reports with a lot of white space - let's 
just say blank characters - and maybe lots of fancy lines of asterisks or 
maybe just hyphens to assist with the presentation of arithmetical 
calculations - that sort of thing.

Of course, these are parochial definitions of compress and compact.  
Elsewhere in
the data processing community (there is such an elsewhere), the publication 
you
cite would hardly be taken as authoritative.

You would be stark, raving to consider compressing anything other than text. 
Text-rich text, a novel for example, would also be getting close to pointless. 
As for tersed data - perish the thought!

FSVO (in a broader context than IBM's FTP) compress  I  just downloaded the 
Gutenberg
Project's Moby Dick (a novel; arguably text-rich).  The statistics:

  Compressed:   584,758 bytes
Uncompressed: 1,231,344 bytes

I'll fully agree (without trying the experiment) about tersed data.

BTW, is mode C in an RFC nowadays?  It's easy enough to find FTP clients that
don't support it.

-- gil

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Re: file allocation dcb order

2011-08-11 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 8/11/2011 5:04 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:

I respectfully submit that the use of SVC 32 is archaic and
cumbersome and should be discouraged in favor of DYNALLOC (SVC
99) whenever possible.


I have a 33.3 RPM turntable, cassette tape recorder, VHS 
recorder, and I have been known to use a manual screwdriver. I 
even look at maps when I need to drive somewhere. When something 
works, age should be a secondary consideration to capability. 
SVC 32 allows some things to be done that are difficult or messy 
with SVC 99. If you railed against DAIR I might have a little 
more understanding.



How many of our list participants are sufficiently skillful to
construct a partial DSCB correctly?


Most of the dinosaurs, who had to run OS/360 despite IBM's help. 
g  Completing a DSCB is no more difficult than setting up a JFCB.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: FTP Question

2011-08-11 Thread Chris Mason
Paul

I recently saw - again I have to confess - a program where a character intended 
to be portrayed as habitually and incessantly argumentative was described in 
terms of it being very likely that if left alone he would immediately find a 
reason to argue with himself.

If I see it again - it's not that bad a piece - I'll be able to tell myself 
that's what Paul Gilmartin must be like.

In the light of observations such as this, it's useful to examine whether there 
is an attempt at pure mischief or it is genuine.

So let us see what the original post was all about, shall we? After all the 
whole purpose of the list - as I thought - actually any of these lists as long 
as it's not VSE-L - is to provide a satisfactory and satisfying answer to the 
question as asked (- at least initially. There are some to whom creating 
tangential discussion becomes not so much incidental as an obsession - but 
we'll try to pass over them - well, we'll try.)

 I am asking for opinions on the ramifications or value of using the MODE C 
 (compress) command within generic ZOS batch FTP.

In my opinion pretty clear, wouldn't you agree? IBM wasn't actually specified 
but, hey, it is *IBM*-Main after all.

So we've established it's IBM and it's z/OS (well ZOS, but I'm sure I'll be 
allowed the adjustment) and it's FTP, the FTP server supplied by the IP 
component of Communications Server.

 ... the publication you cite would hardly be taken as authoritative.

So quoting the manual which referred to the precise topic about which the 
question was posed is inappropriate. I'd like to know what an extremely large 
number of expletives deleted is appropriate. Well, I can't ask you obviously, 
so I'll have to direct my what's your opinion? to everybody else.

Indeed IBM does use the word compress and compact in specific senses and 
because the context - as already established - was in the context of IBM 
products, I used this accepted - a barbed assertion! - terminology. I expect 
that the fact that the terminology was established for use with SNA products in 
the latish 1970s is the reason for the simulated irritation. Compression is 
just about as I described it while compaction is a further step which, come 
to think of it, is actually not all that much more processing-intensive. In 
fact, I could promote the idea that compaction is a relatively light-weight 
option for the novel since it is quite good for approximately halving the 
volume of data - on top of any benefit from compression.

Thanks at least for prompting me to present compaction more accurately - and 
to recall where it is documented:

Network Job Entry Formats and Protocols

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HAS2A620/11.4.2.3

Of course, I was delighted to note the riling potential in the second 
sentence in this other parochial reference:

quote

Note: Compaction is only done on SNA transmissions.

/quote

Of course, it helps I used to teach this stuff once - and, moreover, I recall 
well the teacher who introduced it all to me, a charming Italian gentleman.

-

 FSVO (in a broader context than IBM's FTP) compress ... Moby Dick (a 
 novel; arguably text-rich).  The statistics:

   Compressed:   584,758 bytes
 Uncompressed: 1,231,344 bytes

On the basis of this argument, arguably blank-rich. Was the original 
double-spaced for those who have difficulty reading single-spaced text? I'd say 
that was what the statistics supported, wouldn't you?

Actually, being serious for a moment, I could guess - given this is all about 
what is meant by the word compression etc. - that the text had been subjected 
to both IBM's compression and compaction.

Maybe that's what your broader context is, and, taking the opportunity, the 
context for compression - and compaction - within IBM extends way beyond 
the FTP products.

-

 BTW, is mode C in an RFC nowadays?

Well, you did ask!

()If you have a hat, prepare to eat it now!()

I cheated and used Wikipedia but it was just as good - and it reads believably 
- as using the RFC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol

Under section Protocol overview we find the following at the beginning and 
the end:

quote

The protocol is specified in RFC 959, which is summarized below.

...

Data transfer can be done in any of three modes:

- Stream mode: Data is sent as a continuous stream, relieving FTP from doing 
any processing. Rather, all processing is left up to TCP. No End-of-file 
indicator is needed, unless the data is divided into records.

- Block mode: FTP breaks the data into several blocks (block header, byte 
count, and data field) and then passes it on to TCP.

- Compressed mode: Data is compressed using a single algorithm (usually 
run-length encoding).

/quote

I must say that there is a smidgen of wriggle in that usually. Usually is 
not a good word to find when the matter in hand is a communication protocol 
really quite sensitive to the precise interpretation of each byte of data as it 

Re: FTP Question

2011-08-11 Thread Mingee, David
Thanks for the valuable information.  I plan to use the MODE C cmd in selected 
(10 or 20) z/os, or ZOS, or  Z/OS R 1.12.  IBM Mainframe(z196) batch jobs.  
These FTP's currently have an Elapse Time of 20 minutes to 3 hours using BLOCK 
Mode.  With MODE C they use 6 minutes to 90 minutes.  I never intended to 
modify any FTP of a TERSED file.  I meant to state that MODE C can be faster 
and less of a resource hog that a terse, ftp, and then unterse.  Bottom line, 
our batch will complete sooner and help insure we meet our SLA's.  I also plan 
to put in place the new DSWAITTIME nn parameter.

I really enjoy the veritable plethora of  in depth information provided by the 
many factotums and doyens on this SITE.




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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Chris Mason
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: FTP Question

Paul

I recently saw - again I have to confess - a program where a character intended 
to be portrayed as habitually and incessantly argumentative was described in 
terms of it being very likely that if left alone he would immediately find a 
reason to argue with himself.

If I see it again - it's not that bad a piece - I'll be able to tell myself 
that's what Paul Gilmartin must be like.

In the light of observations such as this, it's useful to examine whether there 
is an attempt at pure mischief or it is genuine.

So let us see what the original post was all about, shall we? After all the 
whole purpose of the list - as I thought - actually any of these lists as long 
as it's not VSE-L - is to provide a satisfactory and satisfying answer to the 
question as asked (- at least initially. There are some to whom creating 
tangential discussion becomes not so much incidental as an obsession - but 
we'll try to pass over them - well, we'll try.)

 I am asking for opinions on the ramifications or value of using the MODE C 
 (compress) command within generic ZOS batch FTP.

In my opinion pretty clear, wouldn't you agree? IBM wasn't actually specified 
but, hey, it is *IBM*-Main after all.

So we've established it's IBM and it's z/OS (well ZOS, but I'm sure I'll be 
allowed the adjustment) and it's FTP, the FTP server supplied by the IP 
component of Communications Server.

 ... the publication you cite would hardly be taken as authoritative.

So quoting the manual which referred to the precise topic about which the 
question was posed is inappropriate. I'd like to know what an extremely large 
number of expletives deleted is appropriate. Well, I can't ask you obviously, 
so I'll have to direct my what's your opinion? to everybody else.

Indeed IBM does use the word compress and compact in specific senses and 
because the context - as already established - was in the context of IBM 
products, I used this accepted - a barbed assertion! - terminology. I expect 
that the fact that the terminology was established for use with SNA products in 
the latish 1970s is the reason for the simulated irritation. Compression is 
just about as I described it while compaction is a further step which, come 
to think of it, is actually not all that much more processing-intensive. In 
fact, I could promote the idea that compaction is a relatively light-weight 
option for the novel since it is quite good for approximately halving the 
volume of data - on top of any benefit from compression.

Thanks at least for prompting me to present compaction more accurately - and 
to recall where it is documented:

Network Job Entry Formats and Protocols

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HAS2A620/11.4.2.3

Of course, I was delighted to note the riling potential in the second 
sentence in this other parochial reference:

quote

Note: Compaction is only done on SNA transmissions.

/quote

Of course, it helps I used to teach this stuff once - and, moreover, I recall 
well the teacher who introduced it all to me, a charming Italian gentleman.

-

 FSVO (in a broader context than IBM's FTP) compress ... Moby Dick (a 
 novel; arguably text-rich).  The statistics:

   Compressed:   584,758 bytes
 Uncompressed: 1,231,344 bytes

On the basis of this argument, arguably blank-rich. Was the original 
double-spaced for those who have difficulty reading single-spaced text? I'd say 
that was what the statistics supported, wouldn't you?

Actually, being serious for a moment, I could guess - given this is all about 
what is meant by the word compression etc. - that the text had been subjected 
to both IBM's compression and compaction.

Maybe that's what your broader context is, and, taking the opportunity, the 
context for compression - and compaction - within IBM extends way beyond 
the FTP 

Re: file allocation dcb order

2011-08-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 19:23 -0400 on 08/11/2011, Gerhard Postpischil wrote about Re: 
file allocation dcb order:



Most of the dinosaurs, who had to run OS/360 despite IBM's help.
g  Completing a DSCB is no more difficult than setting up a JFCB.


True. You expand the mapping macro, map it over an area of the 
correct length, and fill in the fields. OTOH, a JFCB is usually not 
created from scratch but pre-filled in via a RDJFCB, then updated if 
needed, before being used by OPENJ.


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