Re: Life of a JOB
This may be a newer version of the 1974 presentation from SHARE 94, winter of 2000, session #2652 ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/s390/jes2/Share94/JobRelatedExits.pdf Charles S. Kammer ckam...@bexar.org -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Life of a JOB >From 1974? I'd be surprised if it STARTED as softcopy back then. But maybe he's scanned it...I'd love to see it, too! On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Ward, Mike S wrote: > Anthony, if it's in softcopy would you please send me a copy? I would > like to read it. > > TIA. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E] > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:18 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Life of a JOB > > I have a copy of the following: > > The Life of a Job (and the Exits it Touches) > > From Share 74, March 1990 > By Mark Laman of IBM > 24 pages > > -Original Message- > From: Veilleux, Jon L [mailto:veilleu...@aetna.com] > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Life of a JOB > > I seem to remember an old SHARE presentation called (I believe) The > Life of a JOB. I cannot find it in the SHARE proceedings because they > only go back to 2005 and this is older than that. Would anyone happen to > have a copy of this presentation? > TIA, > Jon > > This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you > think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender > by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. > Thank you. Aetna > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > == > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity > to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please > notify the system manager. This message > contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual > named. If you are not the named addressee you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the > sender immediately by e-mail if you > have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. > If you are not the intended recipient > you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action > in reliance on the contents of this > information is strictly prohibited. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My first mainframe experience
Oh yes... A 256k IBM 360/50 with a 1MB LCS box attached running OS/MFT. Also CRJE on 2740/41's, 2260's came later. Operations greatly improved when we installed this type-3 program called "HASP". Charles S. Kammer Systems Programming Administrator Bexar County Information Technology San Antonio, TX -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Petersen, Jim Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: My first mainframe experience How about 2260's was a terminal control unit for terminals which only had 12 lines by 80 Cut my teeth on 360/65 and a 360/50 and a 360/40 and they had a 360/20 down at one of our sites for RJE. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: My first mainframe experience chrisma...@belgacom.net (Chris Mason) writes: > http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/admg1a05/6. > 3.4 > > Table 8 has all the numbers. > > 3174 was a 3270 control unit. > > 4341 was a processor, a "mainframe". 3272 was controller for 3277 3274 was introduced as controller for 3278. besides other changes from 3272/3277 to 3274/3278, a lot of the electronics were moved out of the terminal head and back into the 3274 controller reducing manufacturing costs and drastically increasing communication chatter over the coax (and reducing response). we complained about the significant worse human factors characteristics for 3274 controller. eventually we got a response that 3274/3278 wasn't designed for interactive computing ... but for data entry (basically updated keypunch technology). past post with old reference to 3272/3277 & 3274/3278 comparison http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol 3274 was "slow" in other ways ... it had very high "channel busy" overhead doing command processing. I did a project for STL (now SVL) writting support for HYPERChannel channel extender ... allowing local 3274 controlers to moved to offsite building. As a side-effect of moving real 3274 off the channels ... being replaced with HYPERChannel boxes, significantly reducing channel busy for doing the same 3274 operations ... increased overall system thruput by 10-15%. ... misc. past posts mentioning various efforts ... some involving HYPERChannel http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt later in terminal emulation in ibm/pc ... a 3277 terminal emulation card had much better upload/download thruput compared to 3278 terminal emulation card (because of design with the electronics back in the controller ... requiring significant increase coax protocol chatter ... cutting effective upload/download thruput). some old references about terminal emulation thruput http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#17 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#10 IBM System/3 & 3277-1 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#80 3270 Emulator Software other posts with references to terminal emulation http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal 4341 was "mid-range" done by endicott. some number of old emails related to 4341 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341 POK was surprised that 4341 was beating 3031. in the wake of failure of FS effort, there was mad rush to get products back into 370 product pipeline ... some part of that was 303x which was largely warmed over 370; 3031 was warmed over 370/158-3. clusters of 4341s had higher thruput, were lower cost and required significant reduced physical resources compared to 3033 (there is folklore about internal dirty tricks that cut in half the allocation of critical 4341 manufacturing component) 4341 increased performance, reduced costs, reduced physical requirements ... and there was big explosion in the numbers sold. Many corporations were facing running out of physical space in datacenters ... and it was possible to place 43xx machines out in dept. supply rooms and conference rooms. Large corporations had orders for several hundred at a time that went all around the corporation ... the leading edge of the distributed computing wave. internally, so many were going into dept. conference rooms, that conference rooms started to become scarce corporate resource. the explosion in number of 43xx machines internally helped spike the number of internal network nodes: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet hitting 1000 nodes summer of 1983 ... old reference: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#112 list of corporate sites with new network no
Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC
John, We are in the process of going the other way, z800 to z9BC, and were able to justify the move with the software savings that come with the z9. Has anyone informed this manager that the cost will be going up for all IBM software (OS & Middleware)? Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC I am ashamed to have to ask this at all. We currently have a z9BC. A high manager has found what he considers a great deal on a used z800 that he want to convert back when our lease expires. Anyway, does anybody have a pointer to some authoritive documentation which would relate a z9BC MSU to a z800 MSU? I.e. if we have a 4hr rolling average MSU of 40 on a z9BC, that would roughly translate to ??? MSUs on a z800. We use SCRT for billing, so if the MSUs go up for the equivalent work (as I believe they will), then this deal will be far less desirable. I would say more, but I need to keep my job. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FALL BACK TIME CHANGE EST
This is pretty much what we do as timing is important since we support the County Jail. There are documented cases of people being released from custody because "computer records" proved they were arrested before the crime occurred. Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Kempf Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FALL BACK TIME CHANGE EST How are you folks handling your "fall back" EST time change ? We set CLOCK00 with TIMEZONE W.05.00.00, shutdown the system for an hour, then IPL and life continues. What are your experiences with SET TIMEZONE ? Trying to find a better way than sitting idle for an hour !! Ted -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 8 Gig memory in a z9.
We added an additional 16GB to our z9-BC that is being ordered at approximately $57k/8GB chunk Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 8 Gig memory in a z9. We are going to upgrade from a z/890-370 to a z9 BC-X03 soon and of course I'd like to add more memory to it if I can. Does anyone know what an 8 Gig chunk would cost? Ballpark not exact figures unless you know. Thanks up front, Claude Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections Systems Programmer 850-921-1383 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where to find classes for VTAM
I've been trying to get two of my Systems Programmers into a VTAM class for over a year and a half with no success. I've had them registered for scheduled classes that were eventually cancelled because they didn't make. I just guess there isn't a lot of interest in VTAM anymore... If I can get one scheduled locally, I'll let you know because we will probably need warm bodies to get the class to make. Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hamman Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where to find classes for VTAM Yeah, but... Neither course is scheduled, and both have been priced out of range for our purposes. FWIW - Individual Onsite Training is the only option... John Hamman Senior Systems Programmer BlueCross BlueShield of Mississippi 601.664.4410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> "Mark T. Regan, K8MTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/29/2008 5:35:54 AM >>> IBM has two listed on their training web site at (watch for URL wrapping) http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageTy pe=courses_az&subChapterInd=C&sortBy=6&subChapter=354 VTAM/APPN Concepts and Implementation VTAM/NCP MSN and SNI Implementation Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) - Original Message From: Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:57:31 PM Subject: Where to find classes for VTAM I am suppose to put to gether some classes for this year. I thought I would like to add VTAM to a list of things I can do. But I cannot seem to find any classes for VTAM, APPN, or EE. Does anyone have any recommendations? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * The information contained in this message, and attachments hereto, may be privileged/confidential, and may contain protected health information that is subject to use and disclosure restrictions under federal law. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. All recipients are expected to maintain appropriate protections on the information contained herein. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9
1:1 from a Mod3 to a Mod9. We were migrating from an older RAMAC to a Shark and needed to increase the amount of storage we had available for certain SMS groups and each Mod3 we took to a Mod9 added the equivalent of two additional volumes without having to add physical volumes to the group. Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9 > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kammer, Charles > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:44 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9 > > > We just finished moving about 12 Mod3's to Mod9's using FDRPAS without > any problems or outages. Many of these volumes were high > usage SMS type > volumes and most were completed in 7 minutes or less. > > Charles S. Kammer Consolidations of multiple -3s onto a single -9? Or 1:1 from -3 to -9? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9
We just finished moving about 12 Mod3's to Mod9's using FDRPAS without any problems or outages. Many of these volumes were high usage SMS type volumes and most were completed in 7 minutes or less. Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9 This is just a curiosity question. We will be upgrading our Storage array and at that time the dasd will be carved out as MOD 9's. Currently we are 99% Mod 3s. Is there a way without taking an outage to move 3 MOD 3s onto one mod 9? I was hoping that TDMF, or DFDSS might work but I think they need control of the files. Any suggestions? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: (fwd) Re: Is IT becoming extinct?
Grace Hopper would be proud...! Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Ross Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: (fwd) Re: Is IT becoming extinct? >(I believe this was a major factor in the demise of COBOL; I just cannot resist responding to this (sorry I am so late, I was out of the office for 2 weeks). I work on the IBM COBOL compiler, and if you could see the amount of interest, the number of compiler licenses, the sheer number of COBOL programmers on IBM Mainframes doing new work everyday in COBOL, you would never say such a thing. For example, we are being overwhelmed with requests to continue our improvements for XML support in COBOL, it has been the most quickly adopted new feature of COBOL in my quarter century as an IBM COBOL compiler developer. COBOL is more alive today than it was 10 years ago! Demise indeed... Cheers, TomR >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! << -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
I could differ with your statement "...and Windows is better than OS/2". I had an OS/2 system that supported a P/370 card that ran VM/ESA which supported local and dial-in lines on a 3174 that went over 2-1/2 years before it had a scheduled re-boot... Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PL/S ?? On 1 Nov 2007 16:22:25 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: >FSVO "better", I guess. I assume XL C/C++ is better than PL/X >like C/C++ is better than PL/I. And Windows is better than OS/2. > >I *liked* PL/I. Oh, well. C++ can't be as good as B-. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
Copy of manual at http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/pls/GC28-6794-0_PLSIIguideMay74.pdf Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PL/S ?? Mark, I have a manual titled "Guide to PL/S II" - GC28-6794-0 from May 1974, 54 pages. Not sure whether you can find copies on the web. It has examples of code. Alan -Original Message- Subject: PL/S ?? Does a copy of PL/S from IBM exist anywhere in the public domain? Or would there be somewhere on a z/OS mainframe system I could find a sample of the code? This is what I found on Wikipedia: PL/S, short for Programming Language/Systems, is a "machine-oriented" programming language based on PL/I. It was developed by IBM in the late 1960s as a replacement for assembly language on internal software projects; it included support for inline assembly and explicit control over register usage. Early projects using PL/S were the batch utility, IEHMOVE, and the Time Sharing Option of MVT, TSO. THANX in advance, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 4331 weight
You must have one huge garage or a bunch of spare bedrooms you weren't using! I had to move my 4381 (P/370 based), 3174 and terminals out of my "spare" bedroom when it was decided the space could be put to better use... Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark H. Young Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 4331 weight On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:35:11 -0500, Brian Westerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have several machines now, a 9672 a 4381, a 4341, a 4321, a NAS AS700 a >3081D and a System/3 and a 370/145. > >I also have a string of 3330's, 3340's, 3350's and 3380's and a 2305 with >several replacement parts and several printers from a 1403 up and some >telecom equipment from several vendors and a bunch of odds and ends. > >.but in the mean time it's just a hobby. > >Brian > Hobby? Did you say hobby? Figures from a SysProg, ay?! Most folks consider these hobbies: Golf, bowling, fishing, stamp collecting, baseball cards, sports, fantasy sports, poker, gambling, the ponies, etc. Collecting old (and maybe obsolete) IBM mainframe hardware..Nah?! YES, museum donation.Cha-CHING.the IRS will luv ya?! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE
August 12-17, San Diego, CA, Manchester Grand Hyatt csk -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SHARE San Diego in August I think. Check WWW.SHARE.ORG Lizette -Original Message- >From: Carol Srna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 17, 2007 11:51 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: SHARE > >When and Where is the next SHARE? >TIA > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
