Re: FYI LinKEdln passwords hacked

2012-06-07 Thread Thomas Conley

On 6/6/2012 5:38 PM, Ed Gould wrote:

LinkedIn Users: Change Password Now
Attackers appear to have obtained--and may have already decrypted--at
least 6.5 million LinkedIn passwords.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/attacks/240001623?cid=nl_IW_daily_2012-06-06_htmlelq=a86e12d6260b46e991eaf6fac15b1ab7


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Ed,

Thanks for posting this.  I did not know about the LinkedIn breach, and 
I was able to react quickly.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Allocation mystery

2012-05-31 Thread Thomas Conley

On 5/31/2012 5:26 PM, Steve Comstock wrote:

I'm finding an unexpected allocation situation
that maybe someone can explain.

I run a job that creates a new data set using
this DD statement:

//NEWMAST DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=SYSUID..WORK.NEW.ZINPUTA,
// LIKE=STNT329.TRAIN.ZINPUTA

Job runs fine and creates the new file.

Now I run it again; I expect it to fail with 'DUPLICATE
DATA SET NAME' - but it doesn't. Instead, it goes ahead
and allocates the file on a storage volume and gives me
a zero completion code; just doesn't catalog the data
set.

I find this a change (but maybe it's been that way for
some time). And potentially disasterous:

suppose a multi-step job creates a file in the first
step, and it gets created but not cataloged; but
the completion code is zero. Second step references
the new dataset, but it gets the old version because
that's what's in the catalog.

Any hints or insights here?




Steve,

Check out the ALLOCxx member, the duplicate dataset parms are in there.

Tom

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Re: Transferring stuff from Mainframe to a RDz/UT clone of itself

2012-05-28 Thread Thomas Conley

On 5/28/2012 1:26 AM, melvinjac...@iinet.net.au wrote:

On Friday, 25 May 2012 22:13:55 UTC+10, Thomas Conley  wrote:

On 5/25/2012 2:03 AM, mpjac...@comcen.com.au wrote:

Hi all

Can't readily see how to search the group, so apologies if this info is in here 
somewhere

I'm just after opinion as to the best way to transfer files across from a normal MF Lpar , 
including some USS directories, to a copy of this Lpar running on RDz/UT under RedHat linux on a 
VM server. I'm told that shared DASD is not possible between the MF Lpar   the RDz 
instance,   we have FTP or NJE (don't know which is quicker). The basic scenario is to do 
regular incremental refreshes of the RDz/UT environment from it's big brother MF 
instance

I'm posting this last thing on a Fri arvo, so may not get back to it before 
Monday (it's just gone 4pm here in Sydney)

Thx

Melvyn Jacobs


Melvyn,

I would run DFDSS DUMP, TERSE, FTP binary, DETERSE, then DFDSS RESTORE.

Regards,
Tom Conley



dumb question - the plan that I was given just said basically DFDSS DUMP, FTP, 
RESTORE - what advantage does

On Friday, 25 May 2012 22:13:55 UTC+10, Thomas Conley  wrote:

On 5/25/2012 2:03 AM, mpjac...@comcen.com.au wrote:

Hi all

Can't readily see how to search the group, so apologies if this info is in here 
somewhere

I'm just after opinion as to the best way to transfer files across from a normal MF Lpar , 
including some USS directories, to a copy of this Lpar running on RDz/UT under RedHat linux on a 
VM server. I'm told that shared DASD is not possible between the MF Lpar   the RDz 
instance,   we have FTP or NJE (don't know which is quicker). The basic scenario is to do 
regular incremental refreshes of the RDz/UT environment from it's big brother MF 
instance

I'm posting this last thing on a Fri arvo, so may not get back to it before 
Monday (it's just gone 4pm here in Sydney)

Thx

Melvyn Jacobs


Melvyn,

I would run DFDSS DUMP, TERSE, FTP binary, DETERSE, then DFDSS RESTORE.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Hi Tom

Thanks for that - any particular reason for including TERSE, over just DFDSS  
FTP ?

cheers

Melvyn


Melvyn,

The DFDSS dump dataset is a RECFM=U file.  I've had difficulty in 
transferring RECFM=U files with FTP, so TERSEing them creates a nice FB 
1024 format that can FTP cleanly in binary mode.  I also get the 
compression for a faster FTP.  Someone else in this thread recommended 
TSO XMIT which basically does the same thing without compression,  by 
creating an FB 80 format record.


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Tom Conley

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Re: Transferring stuff from Mainframe to a RDz/UT clone of itself

2012-05-25 Thread Thomas Conley

On 5/25/2012 2:03 AM, mpjac...@comcen.com.au wrote:

Hi all

Can't readily see how to search the group, so apologies if this info is in here 
somewhere

I'm just after opinion as to the best way to transfer files across from a normal MF Lpar , 
including some USS directories, to a copy of this Lpar running on RDz/UT under RedHat linux on a 
VM server. I'm told that shared DASD is not possible between the MF Lpar  the RDz 
instance,  we have FTP or NJE (don't know which is quicker). The basic scenario is to do 
regular incremental refreshes of the RDz/UT environment from it's big brother MF 
instance

I'm posting this last thing on a Fri arvo, so may not get back to it before 
Monday (it's just gone 4pm here in Sydney)

Thx

Melvyn Jacobs


Melvyn,

I would run DFDSS DUMP, TERSE, FTP binary, DETERSE, then DFDSS RESTORE.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-20 Thread Thomas Conley

On 5/20/2012 7:33 PM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:

Except for an 'outage' is not 'scheduled maintenance'. So they still hit 24/7 
as long as
they do it during a 50 some hour outage. :)

MA


Let me know if I missed any. Clearly we still have a way to go for 24/7.


100%, 99%, 98.4%, 97.5%, 97.4%: clearly trending in the wrong direction. The
average up-time so far in 2012 is 98.46% ... not even two nines.

Of course, things look far worse if you consider weekends -- when most customer
scheduled outages take place -- to be 'prime time' for IBMLink availability. :-\

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For our purposes, an outage is an outage, scheduled or not.  Our 
requirement to IBM is clearly 24/7/365(6), for all of IBMLink, SR, 
ShopZ, Internet Service Retrieval, etc.  Ed's right in that IBM 
exacerbates the problem by having the outages during most z/OS 
installation's prime time for maintenance.  They should move these 
outages to 0dark30 on Thursday morning or something.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Thomas Conley

On 5/3/2012 9:48 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:

In z/OS R13, DFSMS changed approximately 400 of their rather cryptic IEC error 
messages to include additional lines of explanation. Feedback from R13 ESP 
customers indicated that the additional lines of explanation were appreciated 
for end-users but were not wanted in the SYSLOG/OPERLOG or on consoles. A 
suggestion was made that the additional lines of explanation be written only to 
the JOBLOG and not to other places that the message might go.

z/OS OA37957 and DFSMS OA37505 provide the suggested support: the additional lines of 
explanation -- now referred to as verbose message lines -- are written only 
to the JOBLOG; they are not included with the message if it is written to the 
SYSLOG/OPERLOG or queued to a console. A new .MSGOPTION statement has been added to 
MPFLSTxx to allow you to enable or disable verbose message support at a system level: if 
the support is disabled (the default), the DFSMS error messages will not include 
additional lines of explanation; if the support is enabled, the DFSMS error messages will 
include the additional lines of explanation, but the verbose message lines will be 
written only to the JOBLOG. The DISPLAY MPF command response now displays the MSGOPTION 
enablement state.

If verbose message support is enabled, the additional message lines are visible 
in MPF exits and are visible on the Subsystem Interface (SSI). The following 
control blocks have been modified to provide an indication if a verbose message 
line is present: WPL, WQE, CTXT and MDB. We have been in contact with the 
various automation venders and they are all aware of how to recognize verbose 
message lines. We expect that most venders will choose to ignore the verbose 
message lines.

Any comments/criticisms/suggestions?

W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development




Kevin,

These messages are a good idea, so please don't be deterred in your 
efforts to bring this technology to other components.  This technology 
will save thousands, perhaps millions of man hours around the world 
spent looking up common error messages, when simple explanations in the 
joblog can tell you exactly what's wrong.  This will be a huge 
productivity boost.


You and others spent a lot of time describing these messages at the TDM 
and in other forums, so notifications were available for vendors in 
PartnerWorld, members of SHARE attending the closed meetings, etc.  I'm 
not sure what else you can do to get the word out.


I think the MPFLST option should be something like JOBLOG, SYSLOG, or 
BOTH.  That should satisfy the needs of all parties.  My choice would be 
BOTH.  Thanks again for this enhancement.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Rexx Alternate Library

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Conley
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:08:10 -0800, Edward Jaffe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pinnacle wrote:
 They also told me that vendors are free to ship SEAGALT with their
 compiled Rexx code.

In which publication is the official IBM statement allowing this
library to be shipped by ISVs?

PK54661 began as an hours-long, fruitless search for a similar
official statement regarding LE and other stubs. It turned out that
no such statement ever existed! With the help of John Eells and others
at IBM, we now have that that official statement and a
precedent/example as to how such statements are to be documented for
other system components going forward.

Ed,

From the web page I sent you:  

The Alternate Library is shipped together with the fee-based program product 
5695-014 for z/OS. It is designed for REXX developers who want to distribute 
REXX compiled products. IBM grants you to package the Alternate Library to 
your REXX compiled products. The Alternate Library allows customers who do 
not own the Library for REXX on zSeries (5695-014) to run REXX compiled 
code.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT

2007-07-27 Thread Thomas Conley
I'm running a REPRO MERGECAT at z/OS V1R8, getting IDC3332I ** 
INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE trying to merge 360,000 entries into a new 
catalog.  I'm running 0M (also tried 250M and 500M) with no exits limiting 
storage.  I've got 12M private below the line.  IBM is giving me the WAD, 
telling me to break down the REPRO MERGECAT into smaller chunks.  

A friend of mine find old issues dating back to 2000 where IDCAMS gets this 
message for LISTCAT, let alone REPRO MERGECAT.  It's 2007, people!  Region 
abends for below the line storage are so 20th century.  I'm submitting a SHARE 
requirement to remove this limitation in IDCAMS, or provide us a new utility 
that can get the job done.

Let me know if you've had problems like this in IDCAMS, so I can flesh out the 
requirement.  War stories, comments, etc. also appreciated.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Fix for orphan ISPF edit recovery files yet?

2007-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley
Did anybody ever get a fix for the orphan ISPF edit recovery files?  I got a 
boatload of them on z/OS V1R8.  I'm totally non-SMS, so please don't tell me 
how I can use SMS to mask this ISPF bug, just tell me if there's an APR and a 
PTF.  I was not able to find anything on IBMLink.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: z/OS V1R8 LINKLIST setup

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Conley
On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:08:06 -0500, Mark Zelden 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:12:25 -0400, Pinnacle 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just looked at our new z/OS V1R8 PROGxx member, and instead of taking the
default so that LINKLIB, MIGLIB, and CSSLIB are on top of the LINKLIST
concatenation, they're sprinkled throughout the LNKLSTxx section, with
LINKLIB actually being near the bottom.  Is this some new avant garde
thinking from our ServerPac brethren, or should I fix it?


They are just sorted in the CPAC PROGxx.   I guess that makes it easier
to find it with IEEIBALL.

Order doesn't matter.  

Mark,

It turns out that z/OS ignores PROGxx when it comes to LINKLIB, MIGLIB, and 
CSSLIB, and puts them at the top anyway.  Just our wonderful friends at 
ServerPac trying to confuse us.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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SELTAPE algorithm in z/OS

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Conley
I know SELTAPE was internalized eons ago, but I thought it was internalized as 
NEXT.  I'm seeing what looks like RANDOM on z/OS V1R8.  Is this a bug or a 
feature?  My concern is that NEXT always seemed to be the best algorithm to 
spread out the pain and minimize certain drives getting hammered.

Regards,
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Install gripe #11

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Conley
Hey IBM and vendors:

SMPWRK5 has not been used in about 20 years, since SMP4 went away.  
STOP USING THE DDDEF FOR IT ALREADY!

Sheesh,
Tom Conley

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Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Conley
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:37:49 -0400, Matt Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal
certificate.  Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a
connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is
updated?  Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is
started, so that some action is necessary to reload  it?  And if it has
to be reloaded, what is the least disruptive way to do it?  I assume
restarting the TCP/IP system would do it, but that tends to make the
phones ring.

Matt,

First things first.  Did you update RACF or gskkyman with the new certificate?  
Make no mistake, varying the port offline will kill existing sessions, but it 
is less 
disruptive than recycling all of TCP/IP.

Regards,
Tom Conley 

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Top 10 software install gripes

2007-05-11 Thread Thomas Conley
Going through all this vendor software installs is really ticking me off (like 
I 
needed a reason).  So here's the top 10 software install gripes:

#10 - Quit telling me to jam your ISPF product datasets into the LOGON proc 
(s 20th century), gimme a Rexx exec with LIBDEF support (grab my 
Dynamic ISPF presentation here if you need help:  
http://home.rochester.rr.com/pinncons/Dynamic ISPF.pdf).

#9 - Stop adding IMBED and REPLICATE to your VSAM DEFINES, FOR CRYING 
OUT LOUD!!!

#8 - Stop telling me to jam all my SMP/E zones into one GLOBAL, at least give 
me the JCL to create multiple VSAM clusters for the TARGET and DLIB zones.

#7 - Get rid of your stupid SMP/E procs and give me DDDEFS!! (this means you 
CA-1 and Panvalet)

#6 - Speaking of DDDEFS, how about recognizing that we clone the target 
zones and providing UNIT and VOLUME parms on your default DDDEFS instead 
of making me do that manually?

#5 - Don't waste my time with tedious install dialogs (SYNCINIT, yuck!).

#4 - Directory blocks should ALWAYS be a multiple of 45.  That way I won't 
get directory out of space the next time you expand your product.

#3 - You still don't understand that most sites used cloned res's with 
indirectly 
cataloged datasets, but NOT ONE OF YOU supports this with a catalog job.  I 
always have to uncatalog the datasets in 3.4, and then DEF NVSAM them.

#2 - Stop giving me 3K and 6K blocksizes, loadlibs should be blocked at 32760 
and everything else should get 0 for SDB (unless you have a wacky format like 
CA-Viewpoint).

#1 - Change your stupid SYSDA default UNIT to SYSALLDA, PUHLEEEZZEEE!!!  
I haven't been in a shop where SYSDA has worked for over a DECADE!  Many 
sites stopped defining SYSDA in favor of the system esoteric SYSALLDA, so 
get with the program!

There, I feel better.
Tom Conley

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Re: V2X2 vs. Shark (SnapShot v. FlashCopy)

2007-01-05 Thread Thomas Conley
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:15:31 -0500, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Tom,

Yes it is possible to use Flashcopy to establish Flashcopy pairs for a
large number of volumes at approximately the same time.  We do this in
conjunction with a daily syncpoint where activity is suspended in DB2 to
support DRP.

PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R07.0 DATA SET SERVICES
2006.359 00:30
ADR004I (SCH)-PRIME(01), USER ABEND 0001 WILL BE ISSUED ON OCCURRENCE
0001 OF MESSAGE ADR306
 PARALLEL

ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND
'PARALLEL'
 COPY FULL INDDNAME(SOURCE1) OUTDDNAME(TARGET1) DUMPCONDITIONING -

 PURGE  FCNOCOPY ADMINISTRATOR ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP

ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 002 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'COPY '

 COPY FULL INDDNAME(SOURCE2) OUTDDNAME(TARGET2) DUMPCONDITIONING -

 PURGE  FCNOCOPY ADMINISTRATOR ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP

ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 003 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'COPY '

 COPY FULL INDDNAME(SOURCE3) OUTDDNAME(TARGET3) DUMPCONDITIONING -

 PURGE  FCNOCOPY ADMINISTRATOR ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP

snip

To minimize the time you can use multiple jobs, multiple steps in each
job (we do 20 volumes in each step), and use the PARALLEL option in
DFDSS.
You can Flashcopy hundreds or thousands of volumes quickly.  A typical
Flashcopy job here does 100 volumes in 5 steps in 30 to 50 seconds
total.

Best Regards,

Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and Availability Management
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(office)  301.986.3574

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the men of old;  Seek what
they sought.
Basho



Sam,

Thanks for this.  I did a little RTFM and based on what you have above, I 
need to then run a DFDSS DUMP with FCWITDRAW on the target, correct?  If 
so, then the process is very close to the SnapShot process my client is 
using.  

Tom

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Re: UA90255 now available to ENABLE NJE OVER TCP/IP IN JES2 Z/OS 1.7

2006-06-30 Thread Thomas Conley

PE train, ALL ABOARD!

- Original Message - 
From: Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 PM
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APAR Identifier .. OA12364  Last Changed  06/06/30
 NEW FUNCTION -  ENABLE NJE OVER TCP/IP IN JES2 Z/OS 1.7
 (HJE7720)



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Re: Catalog Volume Access Facility error

2006-06-06 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Karthick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Catalog Volume Access Facility error



Hi,

I got the following error message while I tried to mount a HFS dataset
on USS using the command
mount -f 'GSEJ.MAINT.RSU0604' /smpnts

FOMF0504I mount error: 98 9801
EMVSCVAF: Catalog Volume Access Facility error



Run this mount from is hell and enter TSO BPXMTEXT  where  
is the eight-digit return code from USS.  That should give you a good idea 
of the problem.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: PARM ALLDATA(*) - DFDSS

2006-06-06 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Peterson

I agree with Skip - we ALWAYS code

ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP

on every DFDSS dump or copy job, for both application and system data
sets.  Yes - it's not needed in most circumstances, but it is in SOME, and
once you find out you need it for a good RESTORE, it's too late (becuase
you had to have specified it on the DUMP command).

If you don't back up all the tracks, they certainly won't be there when
you
run the RESTORE job.  Better safe than sorry.  Or that's my opinion,
anyway.

Brian

On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:02:16 -0700, Skip Robinson  wrote:


The classic use for ALLDATA(*) in my recollection was JES SPOOL, which is
always 100% full but shows as '0% used' externally. There may be others.

As for whether it's 'prudent' to code the parm for a selective backup,
that depends on what you're selecting. Given the consequences of failing
to capture all the data, I'd say it's imprudent not to code it.






What they said.

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Installing SMP/E V3R4, failing for DDDEF SGIMDIR, no doc

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Conley

I'm installing SMP/E V3R4 and the APPLY CHECK is failing for DDDEF SGIMDIR.
I don't have it defined and I can't find any doc for it.  I've checked the
program directory, RIMLIB, DOCLIB, IBM-Link, and the manuals for V3R2, V3R3,
and V3R4 and come up empty.  Any ideas?

Regards,
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Re: Installing SMP/E V3R4, failing for DDDEF SGIMDIR, no doc

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Installing SMP/E V3R4, failing for DDDEF SGIMDIR, no doc



On my system:

Primary Command: FIND

Entry Type:  DDDEF   Zone Name: MVST100
Entry Name:  SGIMDIR Zone Type: TARGET

 --
PATH: '/service/usr/lpp/smp/IBM/'

This directory should be created using the make directory rexx exec.
Check the program directory.

Brian



Brian,

I finally found the jobs in F1, but no doc or helpful directions on the
GIMMKDIR exec or GIMISMKD job other than the comments.  These DDDEFs aren't
documented at all.  They should at least be in PGMDIR.  Thanks for your
help.

Tom

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Re: INTERVALMIGRATION

2006-05-19 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: INTERVALMIGRATION



I have one volume that is managed by SMS but it is NOT in the ADDVOL list
for DFHSM.



Doesn't matter.  HSM AUTOMATICALLY manages all SMS volumes.  You only ADDVOL 
non-SMS volumes.  I forget where interval migration is specified in ISMF 
(STOGROUP?), but that's where you need to look and turn it off.


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Re: SMP/E Split-screen whine

2006-05-18 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: SMP/E Split-screen whine



In ISPF, why, oh why, can't I split the screen and bring
up SMP/E query on one CSI in one split, and another SMP/E
query on a different CSI (or even on the same CSI) in the
other split.  Instead, I get:


Gil,

It has to do with the ISPF ATTACH for the split screen.  It uses SZERO=YES 
to share subpool 0, and if you use that with VSAM, you're asking for a 
corrupted CSI.


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Re: ReSolver issue

2006-05-11 Thread Thomas Conley

I'm trying to setup a default revolver using Local Hosts file on MVS.
When using FTP under TSO it's able to find the Server name, but if I try
a batch job it does not locate the same Server name.
What do I need to code in the JCL to locate the correct Server using
Local Hosts?

Rogers


Rogers,

Be sure to set up all local hosts sources according to the hierarchy 
specified in the manual.  I've found that many TCP/IP applications ignore 
the hierarchy and require etc/hosts, so be sure to set up an etc/hosts file 
in the HFS.


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Re: PDS Directory Question

2006-04-28 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: PDS Directory Question


I have several PDS datasets where there is plenty of room in the dataset 
but the directories have run out of space.  These are really big datasets 
like over 3,000 cylinders.  I used FDRReorg to get some additional space 
but not all that I need...only does the job if a compress is done.  Close 
but no prize.


 1.  What would be the best approach to extending the directory blocks.
 2.  I'm not that good with DFDSS so if I would have to use this program 
how would I set it up.




Use the PDS FIXPDS EXPANDDIR command, FILE182 on your CBTTape dial 
www.cbttape.org.


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Cybermation ESP exit for CA-1 tape scratch?

2006-04-27 Thread Thomas Conley
The wonderful folks at Cybermation do not provide a working sample of a tape 
scratch exit for CA-1, RMM, etc.  They think it's better to have every one 
of their customers code an individual exit.  Does anyone have a working CA-1 
tape scratch exit for ESP that they would be willing to SHARE?  I just don't 
have the time to spend a week coding and testing one on my own.


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CA buys Cybermation

2006-04-13 Thread Thomas Conley


In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:32:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Consolidation news just out - CA is buying Cybermation.  One less  choice
for a scheduling package, and all that  implies...

http://www3.ca.com/press/PressRelease.aspx?CID=86910




This is really BFN (bad news) for my current client running ESP.  They've
staked their future on server-based scheduling and ESP ain't quite there
yet.  If CA follows form, this new development will grind to a halt and my
client will be stuck with mainframe-based scheduling.  Maybe CA will do ESP
differently.  We can only hope.

Regards,
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Re: ISPF panel question

2006-04-11 Thread Thomas Conley

I'm configuring File Manager for DB2 and I want to remove a particular
option from a panel so some users can't see it.  The main FM/DB2 panel is
called FMN2ST00 so I've taken a copy of that called FMN2STXX and removed 
the

said option and the panel that gets invoked for the said users is
now FMN2STXX.  However, immediately upon entry to the new panel, I get the
following error -

ISPP328

Panel 'FMN2STXX' error
Required keylist 'FMN2KGE2' in applid 'FMN2' was not
found.

Panel line where error was detected:
ZSEL = PANEL(FMN2STXX) SCRNAME(FMNDB2) NEWAPPL(FMN2)




Jim,

Make sure FMN2KEYS is in your ISPTLIB concatenation.

Regards,
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Re: Did you know RRS had ISPF panels?

2006-03-30 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Did you know RRS had ISPF panels?



Did you know RRS had panels?

TSO %RRS


PROC 0
 ISPEXEC LIBDEF ISPMLIB DATASET ID('SYS1.SBLSMSG0')
 ISPEXEC LIBDEF ISPPLIB DATASET ID('SYS1.SBLSPNL0')
 ISPEXEC LIBDEF ISPTLIB DATASET ID('SYS1.SBLSKEL0')
 ALTLIB ACTIVATE APPLICATION(CLIST) DATASET('SYS1.SBLSCLI0')
 ISPEXEC SELECT PANEL(ATRFPCMN) NEWAPPL(RRSP) PASSLIB +
 SCRNAME(RRS)
 ALTLIB DEACTIVATE APPLICATION(CLIST)
 ISPEXEC LIBDEF ISPMLIB
 ISPEXEC LIBDEF ISPPLIB
 ISPEXEC LIBDEF ISPTLIB


Haven't looked at Tom's Conley's dynamic ISPF stuff in a long
time since I use all my own stuff, but I would think he has
this in there.



Mark is correct, @RRS:

/* rexx */   
/*trace i*/  
/*/  
/* This exec invokes IBM's RRS dialog.   */  
/*/  
parse arg ztrail 
address tso ALTLIB ACT APPL(CLIST) DA('SYS1.SBLSCLI0') 
address ispexec LIBDEF ISPMLIB DATASET ID('SYS1.SBLSMSG0') STACK   
address ispexec LIBDEF ISPPLIB DATASET ID('SYS1.SBLSPNL0') STACK   
address ispexec LIBDEF ISPTLIB DATASET ID('SYS1.SBLSTBL0') STACK   
address ispexec SELECT PANEL(ATRFPCMN) OPT(ztrail) NEWAPPL(RRSP),
   PASSLIB SCRNAME(RRS)   
address ispexec LIBDEF ISPMLIB 
address ispexec LIBDEF ISPPLIB 
address ispexec LIBDEF ISPTLIB 
address tso ALTLIB DEACT APPL(CLIST)   


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Re: Reading a Load Module

2006-03-29 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Load Module



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JONES, CHARLIE
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Reading a Load Module


I would like to convert a loadlib module to a format that I can read
with a REXX Exec.  Is this


I guess that I'm going to ask: What do you mean by READ?. A load
module or program object is readable by REXX as-is. Now, understanding
what was read is a different question. What, in particular, are you
wanting to accomplish? Look for specific character strings? Look for
instruction sequences?



John,

WTF you be talkin' 'bout Willis?  Rexx cannot read a load module as-is.  The 
EXECIO gets an IRX0509E that only RECFM F and V types are supported.  Do you 
have some type of add-on routine that does this?


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Re: Wonder why IBM code quality is suffering?

2006-03-28 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: Wonder why IBM code quality is suffering?



Also not fair to totally point the finger at IBM who are probably

paying,

AT LEAST, double the money being quoted.

They're not.  The latest matrix price I saw for this position was $50.


That's full time though, right? If you round to 2,000 hours annually
that's U.S. $100,000 plus benefits plus bonuses with a Poughkeepsie cost
of living, and that's not bad. I think that's a bit higher than for other
programming languages (e.g. BASIC), if the compensation surveys I've seen
are accurate.

- - - - -


Ennh, thank you for playing.  The $50 goes to the pimp, who turns around 
and maybe coughs up $35 to a W-2 who's paying for his own health care, etc. 
Benefits?  Bonuses?  Maybe if you're an IBM employee, but not a consultant. 
That's what I love about most full-timers.  They look at the bill rate, 
multiply by 2000 hours and think that's all there is.  Never mind the health 
care, the 15% Medicare and Social Security, disability insurance, 
unemployment insurance, etc.


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Re: Wonder why IBM code quality is suffering?

2006-03-27 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: Wonder why IBM code quality is suffering?


Also not fair to totally point the finger at IBM who are probably paying, 
AT

LEAST, double the money being quoted.

I believe head-hunters, or at least the ones I have spoken with, in North
America have as much integrity of your average lawyer.

Jim S



Jim,

They're not.  The latest matrix price I saw for this position was $50.

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Wonder why IBM code quality is suffering?

2006-03-26 Thread Thomas Conley
Take a look at this job posting.  $35/hr for PLX programmers (for the I/O 
subsystem, no less!).  You gotta be kidding me.



XXX is in need of a PLX Programmer for one of our top clients in 
Poughkeepsie, NY.

Skills required:
PLX Programming skills (Very important as that is what the code is written 
in)
OS/390 skills (MVS) Experience (Equally important as this is the operating 
system that the code will run under).
S390 eServer hardware and millicode knowledge (Important as this is what the 
code is manipulating).
Architecture Verification skills- Must be able to read and interpret 
architecture documents, technical specs so to speak, and be able to write 
code (in PLX) to stress and test that architecture
Working knowledge or experience with S/390 eServer Channel I/O architecture 
and I/O devices (All of this work deals with I/O not CPU)


Duration: Until 12/31/05 w/ possibility of extension
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Shift: 1st shift, Monday-Friday
Compensation: $35/hr or $61,000 depending on benefits needed)

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Re: IBM Supported method to empty PDS in Batch

2006-02-22 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: IBM Supported method to empty PDS in Batch




I have dug high and low and have not been able to find a way to empty a
PDS that meets the following requirements:
1) Executes in batch
2) Provided and ***supported*** by IBM (not CBT, not DIY rexx code, not
requiring SAS/PDSMAN/PDSFAST/etc...)

Am I missing something totally obvious? If so, how is it done?
If there is in fact no such capability, can anyone explain why on Earth
that might be?
Would it be that hard to add the capability to IEBCOPY say?



The only IBM-supported method to empty a PDS is to delete it and reallocate 
it.


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CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Thomas Conley
Can anybody tell me the CA product using the CAZ prefix?  I'm thinking 
JCLCHECK, but I can't remember.  The reason I ask is that I just got a new 
product today, the IBM Application Performance Analyzer (their STROBE 
replacement) and some genius at IBM decided to use the CAZ prefix.  Can't 
wait for the inevitable LINKLIST conflict


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Re: ISPCMDS

2006-02-09 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: ISPCMDS



On Feb 9, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Dave Salt wrote:


From: Don Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And also, to *not* becoming an obstacle preventing people from  using 
new features.  I know of a shop that until recently was  using an 
ISPCMDS table that was 10 years out of date.  Many 'new'  commands like 
DDLIST, DTEST, CMDE, AUTOTYPE and NRETRIEV etc were  simply not 
available, even though a current version of ISPF was  installed.

snip


Dave,

I guess we have to agree to disagree. Some shops want vanilla and and  no 
add ons. SUPPORT Costs  (and ) Time.




That's why God invented USER and SYST command tables.  They've only been 
available for 10 years.


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Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4

2006-02-07 Thread Thomas Conley

Sorry,

I should have said you can't go higher than OS/390 V2R10 on a 9672-R45 (G4) 
box.


Regards,
Tom Conley

- Original Message - 
From: Paolo Pirillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4



Hello Dude,
we are running a 9672-R46 in our DR Site.
It's running fine with z/OS 1.4.
But we have to think about a new box,
becourse we want to migrate to z/OS 1.7 next year.

Regards,
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Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4

2006-02-06 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: news.news [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4


Any one run zOS1.4 with IBM 9672 R45 (especially in a DR enviroment). 





Dude,

OS/390 V2R10 is as high as you can go on a 9672.

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Re: IBMLINK et al.

2005-11-08 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: IBMLINK et al.



Ever since the shop was opened in 1999, we have had a web based service
from IBM that allowed only basic APAR searches and electronic problem
reporting of 'software defects'.  We could download PTF's.



There was no charge.



Now the web navigation has changed such that I can no longer access the
service. IBM is insisting that this is correct, and, oh by the way, I
should have not had any such service at all; all are fee based.



Perhaps I am not using the right words. It is really difficult to keep
up with the name change game.



Does anyone know what the name of that free service would be in
todayspeak?



Hal,

IBM got rid of ServiceLink Basic years ago.  Now you gotta pay to play. 
They have a free site that's not IBMLink.  You should order service through 
Shopz or the new SMP/E release.


Tom

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Re: ISPF member list

2005-10-28 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: ISPF member list



In a recent note, Gary Green said:


Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:38:31 -0400

Funny thing, I like this behavior.  If one is manually 
searching/looking-in

different members in the member list, it's a pain to scroll down a few
lines to get to the next member that is off-screen.  With this 
auto-scroll

of the selected member name to the top makes it so much easier...


OTOH, it's simply moronic that when the member list is small and
fits entirely on a single screen, and I browse the last member and
exit, the screen is scrolled so only one member shows.  Such
automatic scrolling should never go farther than the effect of
DOWN MAX.

And there you have the tastes great, less filling argument that this 
issue brings up.  Back in the mid-90's we were having MAJOR problems trying 
to debug member list scrolling issues because of inconsistent behavior 
amongst all the different member lists.  We decided to standardize on the 
scrolling behavior because it fixed a major problem when processing lots of 
members.  Let's say you selected 100 out of 500 members to process.  The 
resulting member list would be at the top of the list and you would have to 
scroll down a number of pages to take up where you left off.  The problem 
with handling all the exceptions (like single pages, etc.) is the 
complications that it introduces to the member list code.  We've tried to 
streamline it to make it simple, but we've had to re-introduce the 
non-intuitive behavior for those who only work with member lists on a single 
screen.  I won't even get into the complications if an error occurs while 
you're processing multiple members.


It's not as easy as it seems.  If you think you can do better, be my guest. 
Fill out your SHARE requirements and then spend time with the ISPF 
development team beta testing the prototypes.  Can't wait to see what you 
come up with.


Regards,
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Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-18 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: TN3270 Emulator



On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:10:30 -0600, Lester, Bob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Mark,

 I've snipped the rest of you message for future reference.

 Thanks to all that have responded to this thread.  Vista seems to be

the favorite.


Thanks!


One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned about Vista yet.  It doesn't
support GDDM graphics like some of the more expensive emulators (PCOM,
Rumba, Extra).  This probably is not an issue for most, but if you need
that support you won't find it in Vista.  There hasn't been any GDDM
usage around here since prior to Y2K.   I think QMF used to require
the loadlib be avialable when you invoked it, but I'm pretty sure that
was changed a while back also.



Ennn, thank you for playing.  Vista 1.25 Dec 08 2004 supports host 
graphics quite well.  Email Tom Brennan so you can grab a copy.


Regards,
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Eliminating HSC with CA-1?

2005-10-15 Thread Thomas Conley

One of my current clients is telling me that they were told by CA that the
new releases of CA-1 allow you to run an STK robotic library without HSC.  I
can't seem to find any hard doc on this.  Does anybody know if this can be
done and how?

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SHARE videos feedback

2005-10-13 Thread Thomas Conley
Here are feedback notes about the SHARE videos, recorded live at SHARE in 
Boston, that are posted on www.ispw.ca/share . Some notes include comments 
about how much people say they would be willing to pay if this became a 
serious offering.


Please note - cost has not been decided.  This is a SHARE User Group 
management decision.


The notes below dated June/July came in before SHARE in Boston.   We were 
polling to see if it would be worthwhile to take the time and trouble to 
record the sessions.  The notes in September/October are after SHARE Boston, 
and are comments about the 23 videos that were subsequently posted.


Some of these comments are from the ISPF List Server and some are from 
IBM-Main.  Some notes were sent to email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I 
have blanked out the names for privacy reasons.


Thanks to everyone so far for their feedback.  Based on this, it looks like 
we will expand the number of videos recorded at the upcoming SHARE in 
Seattle, which is March 5-10.


Christina McGill
SHARE Applications Development and Integration Symposium

=
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:29:41 -0400
From: Name suppressed
Subject: Re: SHARE sessions via the Internet
Sender: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Internet sessions would be very welcome as I and my colleagues may be
restricted from travel in the future.  We usually have at least people
attending and we get the SHARE discount.  Maybe there can be some
further discount for people that would like to attend sessions but can
not travel and those that do travel.  I have already missed two SHAREs
that I wanted to attend for SCLM sessions.  I would love to be able to
hear them at my leisure.  Thanks for the opportunity to share my
thoughts.

Name suppressed
Senior Software Specialist
US Senate Sergeant at Arms

=
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:57:13 -0500
From: Name suppressed
Subject: SHARE sessions via the Internet
Sender: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I would like to be able to see them via web also.

Thanks.

Name suppressed
Sprint Corporation

Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:23:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Name suppressed
Subject: Re: SHARE sessions via the Internet
Sender: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I like the idea (especially since I can usually only attend 1 Share per 
year

due to travel costs).

Would it be possible to have a designated person (like the session
chairperson) with a laptop at each session to send email questions if 
someone decides

to watch during the actual presentation?  The email address  for questions
could be publicized at the beginning of each session.   Even though email is 
not

always instantaneous, it provides a reasonable effort  for virtual attendees
to ask questions.

How would SCIDS work? ;-)

Name suppressed

Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:47:44 +0700
From: Name suppressed
Subject: Re: SHARE sessions via the Internet
Sender: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sounds great !

Name suppressed
IMS Systems Programmer (VL-M Division)
Thai Airways International PCL

===
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:13:24 -0400
From: Name suppressed
Subject: Re: SHARE sessions via the Internet
Sender: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Great idea.
=
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:59:35 +1000
From: Name suppressed
Subject: Re: SHARE sessions via the Internet
Sender: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ok I'm interested, I'm just not sure if I can wring any cash out of
management's cold dead hands to fund my membership in SHARE.

Does being a full-time employee of a SHARE-member company confer any
rights, or is it pay-per-head?

Regards

Name suppressed
===
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:16:44 -0700
From: Name suppressed
Subject: Re: SHARE sessions via the Internet
Sender: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: ISPF discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It would certainly increase my chances of going.

Name suppressed
Compuware Corp.

Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:45:04 -0400
From: Name suppressed
Subject: SHARE seesion on WebEx
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In my opinion these streaming videos of the Share sessions are the best 
thing since the HASP sing-a-long at Thursday night's SCIDS.  I missed some 
of these sessions to attend others in the same time slot.  Now I can 
attend them at home.  I hope even more get recorded at the Seattle SHARE.

Name suppressed
CSX Technology
System Software Support

==
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:15:55 -0700

Re: FREE SHARE webcast sessions

2005-10-04 Thread Thomas Conley

Peter,

Thank you for your kind words.  The reason we used WebEx is so that the 
foils can be presented along with the audio.  We're currently unaware of a 
technology that would be able to do this in an AVI or MPEG format.  WebEx 
does have MAC OSX, Linux, and Sun clients, so we could look into providing 
those formats.


The floating mike is difficult because the mike has to be jacked in to the 
computer recording the session (the speaker's laptop).  We could possibly 
get a two-channel mixer, but then SHARE's cost to provide the Webcast goes 
through the roof (you would not believe the cost of a one-day rental for a 
two-channel mixer in a convention hotel).  We will reinforce to each speaker 
that they must repeat questions for the WebEx webcast.  If you listen to my 
Rexx session, I did just that.


With regards to future pricing, we are looking to keep it affordable.  If 
you have numbers in mind, please let us know (offline).


Regards,
Tom Conley

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From: Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Awesome!  Yes, I personally would LOVE to see more sessions recorded.
Budgets being what they are (i.e., tight as a drumhead), it is nonetheless
entirely possible to justify a nominal cost for access to the recorded
sessions by spreading it over many developers, thus providing quality
education for many more people than could possibly attend the RL sessions.

Bravo!

A request for future recordings:  Provide a floating microphone (bluetooth
technology would help here) to record audience questions.  In the first one
I listened to, you could hear the speaker quite clearly, but the questions
were pretty much inaudible.  Alternatively, request that speakers repeat the
audience question(s) before providing answers, where a floating mike or two
or three are not feasible (as for large-room sessions with many attendees).

And PLEASE keep the pricing low enough to encourage wide usage -- volume
participation should be the goal, not high-margin cost recovery.

Once again, Bravo!

Regards,

Peter

P.S. -- Ed G.'s complaint about Windows-only availability is a valid point,
perhaps they could be provided in Mac and/or Linux compatible formats in
addition.  I suppose the WebEX folk would have to address that issue, but if
they can't, conversion to AVI or MPEG format wouldn't hurt, for those with
non-M$ equipment.  It's worth investigating, to keep the audience as wide as
possible.

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Re: FREE SHARE webcast sessions

2005-10-04 Thread Thomas Conley

-APPARENTLY they are only available to windows users.
too bad.



WebEx supports MAC OSX, Linux, and Sun.  Let us know if you have problems.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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FREE SHARE webcast sessions

2005-10-03 Thread Thomas Conley

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Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-14 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Leonard Woren [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:08 PM
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With ACF2, you can stop the address space, fix the db, restart the
address space and you're running normally again.  Can this be done
with RACF?  With ACF2, you can stop it and restart immediately 
pointing to an alternate db with a different name on a different

volume.  Can you do this with RACF?


Leonard,

Yes to both.  You just need to know how to use the RVARY command.

Regards,
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Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Irwin M. Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:12 PM
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Hi,

Our auditor has asked  why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf.
Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found some STOP for
RRSF in System Command manual, but that's just some part of RACF.

Any ideas on what our auditor is talking about?




Irwin,

To put it politely, the auditor is speaking from the rectum (from the Latin 
oratus rectumis).  It is not possible to stop RACF with a STOP command. 
An RVARY command can inactivate the RACF database, but you need a password 
to do that (shame on you if the password is still the default, use SETROPTS 
to fix that).  Even if you managed to stop RACF, it would go into 
failsafe mode, and every RACROUTE gets a WTOR to the console which must be 
verified by the system operator (you haven't lived until you hit failsafe 
mode, it takes like 10 minutes to log on to TSO ;-)  God save us from 
auditors who can't find it with both hands and a flashlight.


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Re: SYSMDUMP PROBLEM

2005-09-08 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Jerry Ragland [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:23 AM
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I have a SYSMDUMP which is transferred from a mainframe system in to a unix
system.

snip


When I tried to open the SYSMDUMP using IPCS, IPCS fails to open the
SYSMDUMP and gives the address space as RBA.



Jerry,

Use XMIT OUTDATASET or terse (TRSMAIN) to convert the dump to an 
Internet-friendly format.  Then reverse the process on the destination 
mainframe and you should be good to go.


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Re: Replacing an entire PDS using DIRECT:Connect (NDM)

2005-09-08 Thread Thomas Conley
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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Replacing an entire PDS using DIRECT:Connect (NDM)





snip

So any suggestions? Has anyone found a way using NDM to delete
members of a target PDS that are not in the source? Or, is there
another way to delete the PDS before the COPY (other than using
DMRTDYN)?



Mike,

A non-elegant solution would be to NDM to a different dummy PDS, then have 
NDM submit a job on the receiving system to delete the real PDS, IEBCOPY 
from the dummy to the real PDS, and delete the dummy PDS.


Regards,
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Re: Performance : COBOL trounces C / C++?

2005-09-07 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: John Fly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Performance : COBOL trounces C / C++?



Performance: COBOL trounces C / C++?



snip

We *always* see a huge discrepancy in the performance of these
programs, C always being many times slower.

Although I am at a loss as to why.

If I take the same code (Cobol / C / C++) and use it on other platforms
i.e. Unix or Windows the performance of the code is very similar.  This
leads me to the conclusion that the complexity of the code is nearly
the same.

I must then turn to the systems themselves  :  Mainly the compilers and
system related code.

I truly find it difficult to believe that the IBM C compiler is so
horribly ineffective, or that the COBOL compiler is just that much
better at generating efficient code.  **There must be a way to bring
our C code's efficiency near that of similar COBOL code.


snip

John,

Do you have STROBE or a similar performance analyzer?  If so, profile both 
programs and see where the time is going.


Regards,
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Re: How Was Share?

2005-08-26 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: How Was Share?


So, now that it is Friday afternoon, and there aren't enough people left 
on

IBM-Main (I assume their all at Share) to start a good Friday off topic
discussion, I'll have to start one myself!

So, how was Share?  Any earth shattering news?  Anything us peons who 
can't

go should know?



Eric,

This SHARE was the bombay!  Like Ed Jaffe, I really felt the sense of 
community.  It's amazing how close I feel to people I only see for a week 
every 6 months.  After the hello's, it's like we see each other every day. 
How's the family?  How's life?  Does your job still suck?  Are you still 
working for that a-hole?  And then before we know it, the Bit Bucket 
finishes at 12 noon on Friday, and you're left with that empty feeling you 
always get when SHARE is over.  I had the honor and privilege of being the 
last speaker at this SHARE, wrapping up my 6 minute topic at the end of the 
Bit Bucket.  The audience response to my topic was overwhelming to me; they 
laughed at my jokes, and I began my next SHARE-based crusade (out with 
Dynamic ISPF, in with multiple logon).  I had a fantastic time at this 
SHARE, and I'd like to thank all the folks who made that happen (you know 
who you are ;-)


Regards,
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Re: VOLUME in SMP/E DDDEFs

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: VOLUME in SMP/E DDDEFs



On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:44:39 -0400, Thomas Conley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Guys,

You WANT VOLUME and UNIT parms so you can tailor the DDDEFs for your 
online

and offline res target zones (please tell me you're doing that and not

using

renames to install).

Regards,
Tom Conley



Tom,

That is my preference also (for the MVS environment), but I have also
been at shops that do it via SSA so the access is via catalog.



Mark,

I only use SSA's to build a system during a ServerPac install.  After that I 
always volser point my DDDEFs for my res sets.


Tom 


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Re: ISPF option 3.4 CATALOG multilevel alias

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: ISPF option 3.4  CATALOG multilevel alias



I just changed my sandbox to use a multilevel alias level of 2. I then
defined an alias of SYS1.LIH1 to point to the master catalog on my
production system (just for testing). When I do an ISPF 3.4 on the SYS1
high level, I get duplicate entries for datasets which are catalogued
in both catalogs. I also get SYS1 datasets which are catalogued in the
production master catalog but not in the sandbox master catalog. Even
though those datasets in the production master catalog do not start with
SYS1.LIH1.

This appears to be bug(?) in ISPF 3.4


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John,

This is WAD.  ISPF announced an enhancement to 3.4 where the catalog will 
now be listed along with the dataset name, just to avoid the confusion.


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Re: VOLUME in SMP/E DDDEFs

2005-08-24 Thread Thomas Conley

Guys,

You WANT VOLUME and UNIT parms so you can tailor the DDDEFs for your online 
and offline res target zones (please tell me you're doing that and not using 
renames to install).


Regards,
Tom Conley

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We are in the process of installing CICS TS 2.3 and I can't find a single
DDDEF that has a value for either UNIT or VOLSER defined, but of course I
can't speak to IBM's packaging rules.

HTH,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:35 AM

As part of an ESP I'm giving feedback on the product's SMP process.
I complained that UNIT and VOLUME weren't needed on DDDEFs if the datasets
were cataloged (and that their sample allocation job cataloged them).
I was told that IBM's product packaging rules require UNIT and VOLUME on
all DDDEFs.

Is that true?

snip

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Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?



On 8/9/2005 9:11 AM, Thomas Conley wrote:
I'm working on an ACF2 to RACF conversion.  Getting SDSF to work under 
RACF is a royal PITA because all it gives you is an ISPF message NOT 
AUTHORIZED FOR xxx.  The underlying ICH408I is suppressed, so I can't see 
the real failure.  Is there any way to get SDSF to cough up the ICH408I 
so I can fix the problems?


One of the SDSF designers has suggested that perhaps you have not issued 
the TSO command PROFILE WTPMSG, which allows RACF's ICH408I messages 
(issued by WTO) to show up on your TSO session.


If that's not it, please tell us exactly what you were doing when you got 
that ISPF message.




Walt,

I found the PROFILE WTPMSG suggestion in the SDSF online help.  That fixed 
the NOT AUTHORIZED FOR JOB, but the NOT AUTHORIZED FOR CMD is still giving 
us ZIP.  IRRADU00 does not show any INSAUTH records, and SAFTRACE is empty. 
I've got a concussion from the bricks.  We're going to try some things today 
to see what we can do.  Please pass along to the SDSF designer that it would 
be a whole lot easier if SDSF would just issue the @#$%^* ICH408I, without 
jumping through the PROFILE WTPMSG hoop.  NOWTPMSG is the default for a new 
TSO user, so debugging these errors is a huge PITA.


Regards,
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Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?



Tom,

I imagine that the RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH for the commands has got the
LOG=NONE option - I imagine the reason for this is that you would be
flooded with ICH408I's just during SDSF startup as SDSF determines which
commands you are authorized to see on the SDSF Primary Option Menu.

Maybe there is an undocumented SDSF option that allows you to change the
LOG=NONE to LOG=ASIS,MSGSUPP=NO ? If not - RACTRACE may help.



Rob,

SAFTRACE came up empty.  I would love to see an option in SDSF to display 
the ICH408I messages.  I'm going to submit a requirement in Boston.  See you 
there maybe?


Tom 


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Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?



On 8/10/2005 8:24 AM, Thomas Conley wrote:
I found the PROFILE WTPMSG suggestion in the SDSF online help.  That 
fixed the NOT AUTHORIZED FOR JOB, but the NOT AUTHORIZED FOR CMD is still 
giving us ZIP.  IRRADU00 does not show any INSAUTH records, and SAFTRACE 
is empty. I've got a concussion from the bricks.  We're going to try some 
things today to see what we can do.  Please pass along to the SDSF 
designer that it would be a whole lot easier if SDSF would just issue the 
@#$%^* ICH408I, without jumping through the PROFILE WTPMSG hoop. 
NOWTPMSG is the default for a new TSO user, so debugging these errors is 
a huge PITA.


Not authorized for cmd is still very vague, Thomas.  What panel/display 
were you on, and precisely what did you do to get that message?




Walt,

I get NOT AUTHORIZED FOR CMD trying to purge my own output from the HOLD 
queue.  Another system programmer here gets NOT AUTHORIZED FOR CMD when 
trying to add an initiator class from the INIT panel.


Regards,
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Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?



Thomas Conley wrote:

snip
Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread, but...there's nothing (i.e., 
no ICH408I message) in SYSLOG?




Zip, zero, nada.

(Nit: Of course, SDSF does not issue of ICH408I, RACF does. However, a 
caller can control the whether messages are issued; see the doc for 
RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH for the gory details.  This could become important 
to you later...or not.)




Tell the SDSF developers that.

From a TSO/E message standpoint, I think SDSF and RACF are acting 
properly, at least for the first case you describe. That's the entire 
intent of WTPMSG/NOWTPMSG, and how it's worked for at least 25 years.  If 
I could go back in time and had the power to do so, I'd probably choose to 
make the defaults WTPMSG and MSGID, but it seems far too late to do that 
now.  (Can you imagine the help desk calls from people who didn't 
understand all the new messages?  *-Shiver-*)




Fine, but to diagnose SDSF I have to get thousands of TSO users to turn on 
WTPMSG?  Come on.


For the second case, my personal opinion (which, when combined with a 
dollar, won't even get you coffee at Starbucks these days) is that there 
should be a way to diagnose the second problem from either messages issued 
to the user or messages recorded in SYSLOG without having to resort to SMF 
records and such.




Eh, thank you for playing.  There are no messages issued at all. 
The latest thinking is that the SDSF server itself is actually the address 
space getting the ICH408I and eating it before passing NOT AUTHORIZED FOR 
CMD back to the user.  That's probably why the SAFTRACE came up empty. 
Stupid us, we ran it specifying the user as the jobname.  What were we 
thinking?  We're trying to set up another test specifying SDSF as the 
jobname, but we have to load our new converted RACF database first.   Stay 
tuned for further updates.


Regards,
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SDSF finally coughs up the ICH408I (sort of)

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas Conley

Walt,

Thanks to Dennis Trojak and Tom Schmidt, I turned on the SDSF trace facility 
for 0080 SAF events and viola!  I saw an OPERCMDS call for 
JES2.CANCEL.somethingorother.  You may remember about 2 months ago that we 
had to disable OPERCMDS in order to prevent those unsightly 483 FRACINT 
abends for remote commands from ACF2.  So we either get abends on remote 
commands or SDSF doesn't work.  Heckuva choice  Right now we're having 
fun trying to figure out how to modificate the ISFUSER exit to allow these 
to go through even if OPERCMDS is inactive.  Do you have any better ideas?


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Re: SDSF finally coughs up the ICH408I (sort of)

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: SDSF finally coughs up the ICH408I (sort of)



On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:02:33 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote:


Thanks to Dennis Trojak and Tom Schmidt, I turned on the SDSF trace
facility for 0080 SAF events and viola!  I saw an OPERCMDS call for
JES2.CANCEL.somethingorother.  You may remember about 2 months ago that we
had to disable OPERCMDS in order to prevent those unsightly 483 FRACINT
abends for remote commands from ACF2.  So we either get abends on remote
commands or SDSF doesn't work.  Heckuva choice  Right now we're having
fun trying to figure out how to modificate the ISFUSER exit to allow these
to go through even if OPERCMDS is inactive.  Do you have any better ideas?


Tom,

ACF2?  Are you maybe running ACF2 and RACF (mixed) in a sysplex?
There may be a zap you may apply to avoid the abends in that case.  Then
you can reenable OPERCMDS ... and maybe we can crack open a cold one at
SCIDS in Boston?



Tom,

If you missed my first post, I am doing an ACF2 to RACF conversion.  We are 
mixed in the SYSPLEX, so turning off OPERCMDS in RACF was our only real 
option.  Unfortunately, that makes SDSF non-functional, and I got 50 users 
saying, Why can't I purge my jobs, change INIT classes, change SRVCLASS?, 
etc.  I've been trying to figure out why SDSF wasn't working for weeks here. 
We had some problems with their ISFUSER exit, but we fixed those and ran 
right into this OPERCMDS issue, which I've been working on for well over a 
week.  It would have been so much @#$%^$# easier if SDSF had issued a 
message like OPERCMDS IS INACTIVE, YOU SCHMUCK, but I guess that's asking 
too much.


The unsupported zap of which you speak is a non-starter here, unless IBM 
wants to step up to the plate.  We're trying to figure out if we can code 
ISFUSER to let us slide on OPERCMDS if it's inactive.


Ice it up, baby, I'm there.

Tom

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Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Conley
I'm working on an ACF2 to RACF conversion.  Getting SDSF to work under RACF 
is a royal PITA because all it gives you is an ISPF message NOT AUTHORIZED 
FOR xxx.  The underlying ICH408I is suppressed, so I can't see the real 
failure.  Is there any way to get SDSF to cough up the ICH408I so I can fix 
the problems?


Thanks,
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Re: Downloading CBPDO RIM Files

2005-08-06 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Downloading CBPDO RIM Files


I have been away from Operating System Support for a LONG time and have 
just gotten a job where I am now doing (among other things) SMP Support. I 
have been given a CBPDO tape to install but while there is no docs on how 
to download the RIM library from the tape (CATCH-22). Can someone please 
post the JCL to access this library (ie: The File Number and DSN at least) 
since I know it is a standard IEBCOPY step.





Robert,

Use the SMP/E RECEIVE dialog.  It has an option to download the RIM, the 
DOC, etc.


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Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview

2005-08-05 Thread Thomas Conley
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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:40 PM
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You still an employee of CA Norman   ???.
If so, perhaps you should make that more obvious when plugging CA products
like this.

Ed, Bruce, CC, et al make no attempt to hide their relationship with their
employer

Shane ...


Shane,

Norman's never been a product pimp, even when he was with Candle.  He's 
never hid his company affiliation, so I think you're off-base here. 
Norman's one of the good guys.


As far as SYSVIEW itself, it's a nice product, but SDSF has caught up with 
and surpassed it in JES spool browsing, IBM has added many of its dynamic 
functions, and TASID, SHOWMVS, and MXI provide most, if not all, of the 
display capability, for a lot less $$$'s.  Given CA's outrageous price 
increases and the fact that they stripped capability from Legent license 
holders, I no longer recommend SYSVIEW.


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Re: ISREDIT macro and ampersands

2005-08-03 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Gil, Victor x28091 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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When a source line happens to contain an ampersand it can still be read by

ISREDIT (THELINE) = LINE ROW

However, an attempt to rewrite it back [even unchanged!]

ISREDIT LINE ROW = THELINE

fails, and so does an attempt to examine its contents with the SUBSTR
function.



Use Rexx instead of CLIST.

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Thomas Conley

So back to Tyler and his dilemma what would you do when looking at the
current status of the industry and the road ahead? Tyler has had a friend
who is a Manager of the Technical department for a Unix shop begging for
him for years to come automate the system, so throw that into the mix.
Consider the potential death of the mainframe in Tyler's working 
existence,

which would mean he would have to start all over. Consider that Tyler is
rather close to graduating with a Computer Science degree. Consider the
innovation death within mainframe computing and the alternative of Unix,


Tyler,

RUN, DON'T WALK, into that Unix job.  RIGHT NOW.  STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND 
QUIT.  UNIX is the future, and we are the past.  If you are as much of a 
cowboy as Francisco says, Unix will be right up your alley.  Why are you 
even worried about this choice?  This one is a real no brainer.


Regards,
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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Ed Long [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hi all.
I'm trying to develop a simple purge using DFSORT that drops all records 
in the input older than 1 year.  The target field is an externalized DB2 
timestamp.
So far, the following works, sort of, but is not very elegant. Any 
suggestions?


SORT FIELDS=(COPY)

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,GT,C'2004-06')??? 


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Re: RMM Bins

2005-07-26 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Frank Habura [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:21 PM
Subject: RMM Bins


Need a little RMM help - after a CDS corruption I forward recovered and 
restarted RMM. I received a message that the recovery may have errors, so 
I ran EDGUTIL. It seems that a tape was assigned to two different bins. I 
can move the tape to a new location, but there are still two bins. I can't 
delete a bin because it's not empty. I delete the tape from RMM, then get 
a message that a tape that does not exist is assigned to a bin. How can I 
delete a bin that's not empty?

Thanks in advance,
Frank Habura
Southwest Gas Corp.


Frank,

What does your RMM VERIFY show?  Did you run a MEND operation yet?  You can 
unload, hack, and then reload RMM, but you should get guidance from IBM. 
Open a PMR ASAP.


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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.


In the process of upgrading SMP/E to V3R3 the apply check ran without any 
issues, RC=0.


Running the apply it blasted the day lights out of things starting with a 
failure on a GIM dataset which ran out of directory blocks.


What would be the best way to back things out to prior to running the 
apply step.




Howard,

Unless you took a backup of your ENTIRE target environment just prior to the 
APPLY, your best bet is to fix the directory blocks and rerun the APPLY. 
SMP/E will do just fine if you fix the datasets and go forward.


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Re: IEBGENER and SDB

2005-07-20 Thread Thomas Conley
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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: IEBGENER and SDB



Walter Marguccio wrote:


Dear list,
I have two jobs which run weekly. The first dumps
physically a volume to tape. JCL follow:

//ST01   EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE DD  DSN=my_dsn(+1),
// DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=our_vts,
// DCB=(JGE.MOD,BLKSIZE=19000)
//SYSINDD  *
 DUMP ADMIN IDY(my_vol) OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) COM

The second job copies the output file from the first
job to another tape. JCL follow:

//STEP1EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD DSN=my_dsn(0),DISP=SHR
//SYSUT2   DD DSN=my_dsn_totape(+1),
//DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=our_vts,
//LABEL=(1,SL),VOL=(,RETAIN),
//  DCB=(JGE.MOD,RECFM=U,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=19000)
//SYSINDD DUMMY

I wanted to use SDB in order to decrease EXCPs,
written blocks and elapsed time. So I changed
BLKSIZE=0 to both JCL above. As result, the first job
runs fine as before, but in the second IEBGENER
doesn't want to copy the file. I always get:

IEB352I WARNING: ONE OR MORE OF THE OUTPUT DCB PARMS
COPIED FROM INPUT
IEB317I JOB TERMINATED,NO INPUT BLKSIZE/LRECL

I tried several time adding PARM='SDB=YES' or LARGE,
but no way. I tried to comment DCB out, no way either.
I really ran out of ideas. I know I can use DFSMSdss
COPYDUMP to accomplish the second goal, but the
question here is why is IEBGENER not able to handle a
file whose BLKSIZE has been system determined.

We are at z/OS 1.4 level. Any help is appreciated.


AFAIK it is ADRDSSU fault. ADRDSSU does *not* use LBI (blocksize 32kB), 
however uses blocks up to 64kB in it's own way. I would say illegal way.
The effect is there is no valid blocksize information neither in TMS (IBM 
RMM at least) nor tape labels. The dataset looks like it would have 
blocksize=0. Not SDB, just ZERO.


Solution:
Method 1.
Code blocksize=32760 in first step. Probably (I haven't checked it) you'll 
get 'legal' blocksize values.

Method 2.
Change step2, drop IEBGENER, use ADRDSSU COPYDUMP instead.
Method 3.
Use OUTDD(TAPE1,TAPE2) in first step and drop second.



Rad,

Sorry, DFDSS overrides any blocksize and substitutes it with its own 
blocksize.  It used to fail if you specified blocksize.  With IEBGENER, you 
cannot specify BLKSIZE=0 for a RECFM=U file, you must specify an explicit 
numeric blocksize.  I agree with the poster who said earlier that you should 
use two OUTDD statements in DFDSS to make a separate copy.  You can't copy 
DFDSS tapes with IBM utilities.


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Re: How to add, dynamically, a catalog to VLF?

2005-07-13 Thread Thomas Conley
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:56 AM
Subject: How to add, dynamically, a catalog to VLF?



Hi folks,

we need to know how to add, dynamically, a catalog to VLF. Actually,
this catalog resides at ISC.

The sequence executed is:

1) Remove this catalog from ISC with 'F CATALOG,ALLOCATE(catname),NOISC'
2) Add this catalog to VLF with 'F CATALOG,VLF(catname)


Then, this catalog is closed. We force to open this catalog (browse to
any file of it) and it's open but at report of 'F CATALOG,ALLOCATED'
shows this catalog with '-' at third position and therefore it isn't
at ISC or VLF!!!

FLAGS -VOLSER-USER-CATALOG NAME
YS--R- S00013 0001 CATALOG.XXIN


This is normal.  The status will be '-' until the catalog is actually 
accessed.  Did you remember to recycle VLF to pick up the new COFVLFxx?


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Re: RVA: How to free up space from deleted datasets wtihout IXFP

2005-07-06 Thread Thomas Conley

Bruce,

Duh, must have been seriously sleep deprived when I agreed with this 
madness.  You are correct, of course.  I was probably still in shock that 
anyone would have an RVA without IXFP.  That's like running a car on rims. 
Nice catch.


Tom

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Copy the data sets elsewhere and INITialize the volume using DSF.


NO!  That will make the problem no better and probably worse.
If you do a minimal INIT (just VTOC), then the tracks for all the datasets 
that used to be on the volume will STILL be assigned in the back-store. 
If you do a medial INIT (write every track), then EVERY track ont he 
volume will be assigned space on the back-store.
What he could do is move all the datasets off a volume, then DELETE the 
volume from the RVA control panel (which releases the backstore), then 
redefine the volume and move datasets back.   This could be very tedious.


I agree, IXFP is necessary to the management of an RVA, there is no other 
way to release unused space.  Alternately, you can license the SVAA 
product from StorageTek, more recent version of IXFP.

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Re: How to free up space from deleted datasets wtihout IXFP

2005-07-06 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: How to free up space from deleted datasets wtihout IXFP

One way to free up space on your RVA without IXFP is to fill up your
volumes with large datasets containing binary zeros, then delete those
datasets.  The backend will still remember those tracks as they do
without IXFP today, but they'll be compressed into near-nothingness.



David,

Whoa mama! Cool man! (a la Bart Simpson).  Great solution to a really 
snipped problem.


Tom 


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Re: problem IKJEFTSR

2005-07-06 Thread Thomas Conley
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Subject: problem IKJEFTSR



I got a problem :

IKJEFTSR interface error  
  
Authorized program 'VRASPFLK'. Return code = 20.

Reason code = 56.

I have listed the library to APF and listed also in
IKJTSOxx.

Someone have any sugestion ...?



Put Vanguard in LINKLIST, don't STEPLIB to it in your TSO logon proc.

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Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-06 Thread Thomas Conley
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus




Had I worked in VSAM for 30+ years I'd have made this change a long time
ago and this issue would never have been so contentious.  But I've only
been working directly in VSAM for a couple of years now so I apologize for
not publicizing this sooner.  And as several users have pointed out,
invalid data is invalid data - and how can you make business decisions on
invalid data?  If your checking statement said you had $3,127.47 but next
to it in parentheses it said (but this amount is invalid), would you go
out and try to spend the money?  No, I think you'd be kinda cautious so 
you

didn't get arrested for fraud.  I wonder how businesses can make decisions
on the same invalid data.

We do have plans to correct the problem, but it's dependent on resources,
and time.



Mark,

The only beef I had with this whole thing is that IBM did not protect the 
customer investment with the first fix.  I know you hate the compromise fix, 
but it was the right thing to do.  Ensuring that customer code runs 
uninterrupted wherever possible should be one of the highest development 
priorities.  The new fix allows application code to run unchanged (although 
REXX will probably still fail because the '*' is abutted to the end of the 
number), while giving the new information that the data is potentially 
invalid.


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Re: How to free up space from deleted datasets wtihout IXFP

2005-07-05 Thread Thomas Conley

Caleb,

HTF do you buy an RVA without IXFP?  Ed's right, you'll have to dump, 
reinit, and restore your volumes in order to reclaim NCL.  If you're at 85% 
NCL, your box has been sick for a long time.  RVA without IXFP just doesn't 
make sense.  You would have been better off spending your money on a Shark 
or an EMC.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Subject: RVA: How to free up space from deleted datasets wtihout IXFP



Hello,

We have a RVA with NCL nearing 85%. We don't have IXFP. We are trying to 
free up space to bring down the NCL. The deleted dataset space from os/390 
is not freed up in rva. From the docs and the archives post, we know that 
we need to run dynamic ddsr and interval ddsr. But this is part of ixfp 
and we currently don't have this sw.


Without IXFP, is there no other way to reclaim spaces from deleted 
datasets ?  The redbook seems to indicate that IXFP was an option, if this 
is the case, then there should be some other way to reclaim spaces outside 
of ixfp.


Outside of ixfp, is there any manual procedure that you could do to 
reclaim the space from deleted datasets ? it doesn't have to be online, 
any procedure , even those that require downtime on the rva.


thanks in advance.

Caleb

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Re: Couple of questions on JES2 output handling

2005-06-30 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Perryman, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Couple of questions on JES2 output handling



Hi folks

I want some types of STC to have their output immediately purged, assuming 
they complete successfully - repetitive tasks like BPXAS, SMF archiving, 
things like that. I can see how to do that using JES init statements or 
commands.


But for other STCs like HSM, RMM, CICS etc I want the JESMSGLG, JESJCL, 
JESYSMSG etc all kept for a while, regardless of whether they completed 
successfully or not.


So first question is, can this be done and, if so, how do I go about it 
please?


Brian,

Even simpler than the MSTJCL hacks propagated by Kojak, try S 
DFHSM,MSGCLASS=A or whatever.  You can even do it without an IPL.


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Re: Message Standards w9as: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

2005-06-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: Message Standards w9as: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
question (COBOL)



Tom,
 You say this in this message and said (when I asked where you got this
idea -
in another message)

I got this idea from the IBM pubs coordinator. 

Can you tell me Who/what IBM pubs coordinator told you that there
was an
IBM-wide standard that all messages (for all products) should have a
documented programmer response documentation?

This is a quite serious question.  I (personally) am aware of product
publication coordinators but from all the times that I have dealt with
IBM dox,
I new of some inter-product communication BUT not of any IBM-wide
coordinator.

If there is truly such a person (or position) *AND* if they truly have a

company-wide policy, then is very much something that we need to deal
with the
COBOL folks on.



Bill,

In the mid-90's, I was pushing to get ISPF's self-documenting  messages
documented in a manual.  My escalations took me to a woman (don't remember
her name), who either worked in Mechanicsburg, or had responsibility for
Mechanicsburg (for those who do not remember, Mechanicsburg used to be IBM's
paper mill, er, manual center).  She informed me that it was an IBM
Corporate Standard that all messages be documented in a manual, with
appropriate response fields.  Armed with that knowledge, we tilted at the
ISPF windmill, and won.  My attempts to get the IS HELL messages have been
far less successful; the developer has made it clear to me that he thinks
I'm an idiot if I can't figure out his self-documenting messages (search
the archives of IBM-Main a few years ago if you want to see my rants on that
subject, I think BPXM003 was the specific message id).  The next windmill
that has presented itself is this COBOL stuff.  Now that Kevin Kelley is on
the case, I'm feeling a lot better about getting this done.  I plan to bring
this up at SHARE as something that IBM must address at a corporate level.
They talk about the need to make z/OS an easier platform to administer,
deploy, and use, but they have developers who won't even document the error
messages put out by their products.  That's got to stop.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Message Standards w9as: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

2005-06-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: W. Kevin Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Message Standards w9as: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration 
question (COBOL)



There is an IBM corporate standard for both Message Formats and for 
Message Documentation dating from the S/360 days. The Message Format 
standard only applies to messages that can appear on an operator's 
console, so that would not apply to COBOL messages. The Documentation 
Standard may apply to COBOL; I'll have to check. I own both standards. 
Before you ask, the standards are considered IBM Confidential. There have 
been various attempts over the years to get them unclassified, but all of 
those attempts have failed.


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Kevin,

Thank you for confirming that there is a message documentation standard. 
Glad to see you're on the case.  I think it's even more important to fully 
document error messages given IBM's corporate direction to make z/OS easier 
to use.  Will you be at SHARE in Boston?


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Re: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

2005-06-23 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Fw: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)



What is not self-describing about these is why they suddenly started

appearing when the programmer hadn't changed any of his code, that's what!

If messages start appearing after a migration of compilers, then SOMEONE
(application programmer or systems programmer) SHOULD have the sense to
check in the Migration Guide.

Furthermore, IMHO, anyone (systems programmer) who does a migration of
compilers and does NOT look at what compiler options are DOCUMENTED as
changing and figuring out what implications this has for their shop, isn't
doing their job.

If the complain was (which is NOT true) that this isn't documented as a
CHANGE in both the Migration and Installation manuals, then I would say -
yes, there is a problem, but this one just isn't in that category.



Bill,

How about my case, where the failing program wasn't compiled until 6 months 
after the COBOL migration?  HTF were we supposed to relate that failure to 
the bloody COBOL compiler upgrade?  WTF do you guys have against IBM 
providing at least a programmer response field for each message?  I just 
don't get why you guys continue to think that providing messages without a 
response field is acceptable.  I bet you think that the BPX messages coming 
out of ISHELL are also self-documenting.


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Re: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

2005-06-22 Thread Thomas Conley
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:53 AM
snip
IGYPS0157-E   A shift-out was found in column 50 without a matching 
shift-in in a nonnumeric or national literal.  The literal was processed as 
written.


IGYPS0158-E   A nonnumeric or national literal containing double-byte 
characters was found which exceeded the maximum literal length or reached 
end of area B before terminating.  A literal delimiter was placed at 
column 72 of line 

snip

NOTE WELL:
 COBOL compiler messages (IGY) are *not* documented; they are
self-documenting.  If your application programmers can't figure out 
these

specific messages, I would suggest additional training for them.  If they
don't know WHY they are getting the messages now (but not before), then I
suggest you provide them references to the COBOL Migration Guide which 
does

talk about such changes (NODBCS to DBCS).


FYI,

This self-documenting stuff is NOT IBM STANDARD!!  IBM's official stance 
on messages is that ALL messages should be documented, with the appropriate 
Programmer and Operator response fields documented.  I had this same 
argument with COBOL level 2 when I called in this problem.  My exact words 
were HTF am I supposed to know that this error message was caused by you 
changing the default from NODBCS to DBCS?  I did submit an RCF for this 
issue.  Maybe someday the idiots in COBOL doc will fix it.


Your premise that the users require additional training is patently absurd, 
as is the suggestion to provide a reference to the COBOL Migration Guide. 
HTF is anybody supposed to know that this error message was caused by 
something discussed in the COBOL Migration Guide?  We had this same fight 
with ISPF messages ages ago, and now there's an ISPF messages manual because 
of it.  COBOL should do the same.


There, I feel better now.

Regards,
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Re: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

2005-06-22 Thread Thomas Conley
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On Jun 22, 2005, at 7:04 PM, Steve Comstock wrote:

IGYPS0157-E   A shift-out was found in column 50 without a   matching 
shift-in in a nonnumeric or national literal.  The   literal was 
processed as written.



A shift-out without a shift-in?  Pretty obvious.


Not if he was not using DBCS. No reason to expect
this message. Apparently it was caused by the
change if default compiler option settings, which
does seem a little obscure, don't you think?


Not at all.

Just because you find a shift-in in your source doesn't mean the  error 
message is at fault.  If you look at your listing and actually  see a 
shift in there, then you might want to complain about the  preprocessor 
that placed it there.  But that would be the  preprocessors fault, not the 
message -- it means exactly what it says.


If you will pardon the pun, this sound like a perfect example of 
'shooting the messenger' instead of addressing the root cause.




Joe,

You are wrong here.  Imagine a shop that has used COBOL for decades, and 
can't even spell DBCS.  All of a sudden this message pops up after a 
compiler upgrade.  The programmer asks What's a shift-in?  The systems 
programmer says BTF outta me.  Let's get the message manual.  Oops, no 
manual, now what?  Open a PMR only to be told by COBOL Level 2 what an idiot 
you are..


Your assumption that this message tells the whole story is absurd.  Every 
IBM message is supposed to have a response documented, like this:


Programmer response:  If using DBCS support, be sure that your DBCS 
character stream contains proper shift-in shift-out pairs. If you are not 
using DBCS, be sure that you specify the NODBCS in your compile.


Problem solved.  Expecting the user to know every option and feature of the 
COBOL compiler, especially those features and options that they're not even 
using, is ridiculous.  That's why every error message generated by an IBM 
product is supposed to be fully documented with appropriate Response 
sections.


Regards,
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SESSION MANAGMENT

2005-06-07 Thread Thomas Conley
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John,  a question to your question:  If you don't use a session manager, 
how
do remote users who lose their TN3270 session due to non-mainframe 
problems

(timed-out VPN, blue-screen-of-death, etc.) log themselves off of TSO when
they get back into the network?  In a large organization, you do not want
lots of people calling central operators for session cancels, it clogs the
work arteries way too much.  Where I am, Netview Access (or whatever it is
now called) lets me log myself off TSO when I get back in without needing
any operator intervention.  It's probably the most-used feature, 
considering

you can never get the same LU name coming back in as the one you had
previously, so you always have to get your prior session logged off so you
can logon again under the new LU.

Peter



Peter,

Check out Gilbert St.Flour's IKJEFLN exit at http://gsf-soft.com.  It
doesn't work if you have OPERCMDS active, but Gilbert will be glad to sell
you the fix ;-)  I installed that bad boy on my P390, and finally got
reconnected whenever my DSL dropped.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: CST/RSU recommendation vs RefreshPac-SFSs (CustomPac) (was: PUT vs. RSU)

2005-05-26 Thread Thomas Conley
Jan,

My replies below.

Regards,
Tom Conley

On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:57:16 -0500, Jan Vanbrabant
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The main question is:
what *IS* now IBM's final recommendation?
CST/RSU is free, probably of a higher quality, but incomplete (only for
z/OS  major subsystems).

Disagree.  You send IBM your CSI bitmap on ShopZ, and you should get back
all the RSU maintenance for all installed products.

CustomPacs are personalized and contain service for ALL CSI products.


I wouldn't trust a CustomPac as far as I could throw it.

Can you work with both approaches, CST/RSU and Custompac?

Why do you want to pay for something that you can get for free?

For as far as I know (I'm not the SMP/E expert overhere), it doesn't look
to me as an or-or relationship. From a purely technical point of view, it
should be possible to use both techniques in parallel. In theory, it
should be possible to work for example with 2 CSIs, a RSU-CSI  a
Custompac-CSI. And I suppose we can reconciliate with cross-zone SMP/E.
But are there considerations about doing so? Pro's  con's? Do's and
don'ts?


My best practice is to use SUF until it goes away.  IBM recommends ShopZ,
but it's still too much manual intervention for me.  I've had bad
experiences with CustomPacs, so I will not use them again.  If they work
for you, great, but is the cost of them really worth the minimal time
savings?   In my case, I spent more time correcting the CustomPac errors
than I would have if I did it all myself.

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Getting multiple instances of Acrobat Reader

2005-05-25 Thread Thomas Conley

FYI,

I fingered out how to get multiple instances of Acrobat Reader (I'm running 
7.0.1, YMMV).  Go to Edit, Preferences, and select General.  Check the box 
that says Show Documents in Taskbar and recycle Acrobat and viola!

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Re: Who deleted my member?

2005-05-25 Thread Thomas Conley
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Hi All,
I would like to know who deleted member in my PDS dataset and I found some 
sample JCL (shown below) using program ICETOOL to read SMF type 42 but 
DFSORT is not licensed for use on our system.


Change ICETOOL to SYNCTOOL.

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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley

Bravo for providing documentation ion all 3 formats.  I encourage all
vendors to do so and really get on their case when they decide to drop a
format, which unfortunately is usually BookManager.

Don Imbriale




For our products, we generate HTML, PDF, and BookManager softcopy books
from a common source (M$ Word documents).

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Question to the list:  WTF is anyone still using BookMangler format?  After 
Adobe created their new search feature in Adobe 6 (if you're still running 
Adobe 5, go download 7 NOW), there's no reason to continue to use 
BookMangler.  The only reason to use it in the first place was the superior 
search capability, but now that Adobe has that function, bye-bye BM!!


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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley

Thomas Conley wrote:

Question to the list:  WTF is anyone still using BookMangler format? 
After Adobe created their new search feature in Adobe 6 (if you're still 
running Adobe 5, go download 7 NOW), there's no reason to continue to 
use BookMangler.  The only reason to use it in the first place was the 
superior search capability, but now that Adobe has that function, bye-bye 
BM!!



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Ed,

I know you have to support it, but I haven't used BookMangler format in over 
a year.  Everything I download now is PDF format.  The old argument was, 
Use BM for search, PDF for printing.  Now that PDF has the search 
function, I don't need BM at all.  Why did you think I was joking?  Do you 
still have a hard time using PDF?


Tom 


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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Imbriale, Donald , Exchange [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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It's o'dark thirty.  Production job down.  Application developer needs
access to doc.  They're logged on from home directly into z/OS.
BookManager is right there.  Got what they need, fix the problem, job
reruns, life is good.

Don Imbriale




Don,

Since I'm logged in from home at 0dark:30 on my PC, I usually read the doc 
on my PC and toggle to my 3270.


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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Isn't it easier to select and cut a block of text (to copy into an email,
say) from BM than  Adobe?



Greg,

I have the same problems with both PDF and BookMangler.  The box characters 
mess up the Cut/Paste, the proportional fonts mess things up (although 
Vista's PasteFlow function really helps with that).


Tom 


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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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1) IMO, Bookmanager search is still better and faster.

2) Some folks have no control of what applications/versions are
  on their desktops.  Until 3 weeks ago I was running WinNT with
  Adobe 5.   7 isn't even supported on NT.   New laptops are
  being rolled out with XP, but my new one still came with Adobe 5.
  Later this year a refresh of standard applications on the
  desktop is being done and I'm sure that will include
  Adobe 6 or 7.  I am lucky that I actually have admin authority
  to my own machine and installed Adobe 7 (which BTW, is quicker
  than 6).  But that is only because of the apps I need to
  download from the mainframe and install (HMC, RMF, etc.).


Mark,

1.  I've found that a lot of companies aren't distributing the PDF indexes 
yet like they do with the .bki stuff.  PDF search can go cross bookshelf 
depending on the index you use.  Without the index, the search does take 
some time.


2.  This is the biggest problem I've found with people using Adobe.  They're 
stuck at 5 (or worse) and can't get 6 or 7 installed.  Granted, the early 6 
releases were buggy, but 7 is the bomb.  I haven't used BM format in over a 
year and I have no intention of going back.


Tom

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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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Hi Tom,

I have Adobe 6, and searching a PDF seems to take forever.  I would prefer
that everyone do like IBM does - give you a CD with both Bookmanager and
PDF files.  If I want to print a section or chapter, I use PDF.  If I need
to find something, nothing beats Bookmanager.

By the way, is there a way to enter 2 or 3 keywords in Adobe?  I know it
works in Bookmanager, but I'm not sure about Adobe.

Eric Bielefeld
PH Mining Equipment



Eric,

The problem is that vendors are not yet distributing the PDF indexes like 
they are the .bki files for BM.  Once they do, the multiple keyword searches 
should work similar to BM.


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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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Ditto everything below, plus:  I like being able to have a lot of
manuals open at one time, and usually I can remember which one is which
in my taskbar (and if not, hovering over it gives me the name), so I
just click on the manual I want to look at -- very fast!  With Acrobat,
and maybe this is just me, but no matter how many manuals I open, I get
only the one instance of Acrobat.  To switch from one manual to another,
I have to use the clumsy Window drop-down, and I can't look at two
manuals at once.  Has anyone gotten around that?


My Acrobat 7 reader opens multiple instances.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Conley
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Thomas Conley wrote:


My Acrobat 7 reader opens multiple instances.



Tom, You must live right! Please describe _in detail_ how you make this 
happen.


Also, I'm still waiting to hear how you run multiple instances of your 
TSO/E session in a sysplex with a shared profile data set. Remember this 
post? http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0502L=ibm-mainP=R12561


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Ed,

You want detail, you got it.  I click on a pdf file in Explorer, then I 
click on another one.  I get two instances of Acrobat and toggle between 
them with Alt-Tab (seriously, that's all I do.  Do you not get multiple 
instances with your version of Acrobat 7?)


As far as the shared profile for ISPF in a SYSPLEX, just do it.  The last 
image to log off wins.  Check out Lionel's article in TechSupport 
http://www.naspa.com/PDF/2004/0504/T0405002.pdf (talk about ironic, it's a 
PDF! ;-)


Tom 


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