Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

2012-04-26 Thread esmie moo
Here is the display after I hit ENTER
 
  Data Set Information  
  Command 
===>   
    
  Data Set Name . . . . 
: ZWA6PWG.ICOD.DMSC.D2012087.T130018  

 General Data   Current 
Allocation  
  Management class . . : **None**    Allocated tracks  . : 
3,222    
  Storage class  . . . : **None**Allocated extents . 
:  12 
  Volume serial . . . : A24U90   
  Device type . . . . : 3390  
  Data class . . . . . : **None**  
  Organization  . . . : PS  Current 
Utilization 
  Record format . . . : U   Used tracks . . . . : 
12,596   
  Record length . . . : 0  Used extents  . . . 
: 3    
  Block size  . . . . : 27998 
  1st extent tracks . : 1074  
  Secondary tracks  . : 
1074   Dates   
  Data set name type  :   Creation date . . . : 
2012/03/27   
  SMS Compressible. . : NO  Referenced date . . : 
2012/04/26   
  
Expiration date . . : ***Perm***   




From: esmie moo 
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:20:50 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

Once the dsn is displayed by ISPF, I then typed I as shown below:
 
Command - Enter "/" to select 
action  Message   
Volume 
---
IZWA6PWG.ICOD.DMSC.D2012087.T130018 
 A24U90 
* End of Data Set list * **




From: Bill Fairchild 
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:13:52 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

Please describe more precisely what you did when you said you "typed I beside 
the dsn".
I tried to type the number 1 and the letter I beside a dsn on an ISPF 3.4 
screen and I did not get any display like yours.

Bill Fairchild
Programmer
Rocket Software
408 Chamberlain Park Lane . Franklin, TN 37069-2526 . USA
t: +1.617.614.4503 .  e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com . w: 
www.rocketsoftware.com


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esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

Bill,
 
In my first e-mail, I displayed the dsn the following way:
 
ISPF 3.4
ZWA6PWG.ICOD.DMSC.D2012087.T130018
Next, I typed I besided the dsn
Then it displayed me the dsn stats.



From: Bill Fairchild 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:48:44 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

The display you show below only displays the first 3 extents, which have a 
total of 3*1074=3222 tracks, which is what your previous email said was the 
total of all tracks allocated.  This display also shows a non-zero pointer to a 
F3 DSCB in which will be described up to 13 more extents of which your data set 
will have non-zero values in the first 9, for a grand total of 12*1074=12888 
tracks.  The last block pointer in the display below agrees with the number of 
tracks utilized in your previous email.  It appears that for some reason the 
program that you used to display the data set attributes in your previous email 
ignored the F3 DSCB.  Or perhaps you asked the system to tell you the data set 
attributes in your previous email at just the wrong millisecond when the system 
was also in the midst of updating the F1 DSCB.  Possibly your display request 
read the F1, began formatting the display, then read the F1 again after 
formatting the number of 
tracks allocated but in betwee!
n!
  your two reads of the F1 the system rewrote the F1 and changed the last block 
pointer field, then when your display request read the F1 again it displayed 
the non-zero last block pointer.  Some code is perhaps not properly serializing 
on the

Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

2012-04-26 Thread esmie moo
Once the dsn is displayed by ISPF, I then typed I as shown below:
 
Command - Enter "/" to select 
action  Message   
Volume 
---
IZWA6PWG.ICOD.DMSC.D2012087.T130018 
 A24U90 
* End of Data Set list * **




From: Bill Fairchild 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:13:52 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

Please describe more precisely what you did when you said you "typed I beside 
the dsn".
I tried to type the number 1 and the letter I beside a dsn on an ISPF 3.4 
screen and I did not get any display like yours.

Bill Fairchild
Programmer
Rocket Software
408 Chamberlain Park Lane . Franklin, TN 37069-2526 . USA
t: +1.617.614.4503 .  e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com . w: 
www.rocketsoftware.com


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esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

Bill,
 
In my first e-mail, I displayed the dsn the following way:
 
ISPF 3.4
ZWA6PWG.ICOD.DMSC.D2012087.T130018
Next, I typed I besided the dsn
Then it displayed me the dsn stats.



From: Bill Fairchild 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:48:44 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

The display you show below only displays the first 3 extents, which have a 
total of 3*1074=3222 tracks, which is what your previous email said was the 
total of all tracks allocated.  This display also shows a non-zero pointer to a 
F3 DSCB in which will be described up to 13 more extents of which your data set 
will have non-zero values in the first 9, for a grand total of 12*1074=12888 
tracks.  The last block pointer in the display below agrees with the number of 
tracks utilized in your previous email.  It appears that for some reason the 
program that you used to display the data set attributes in your previous email 
ignored the F3 DSCB.  Or perhaps you asked the system to tell you the data set 
attributes in your previous email at just the wrong millisecond when the system 
was also in the midst of updating the F1 DSCB.  Possibly your display request 
read the F1, began formatting the display, then read the F1 again after 
formatting the number of 
 tracks allocated but in betwee!
n!
  your two reads of the F1 the system rewrote the F1 and changed the last block 
pointer field, then when your display request read the F1 again it displayed 
the non-zero last block pointer.  Some code is perhaps not properly serializing 
on the VTOC accesses.  Either way, you should get IBM involved in resolving 
this issue, assuming that IBM wrote the program that you used for your previous 
display.

Bill Fairchild
Programmer
Rocket Software
408 Chamberlain Park Lane . Franklin, TN 37069-2526 . USA
t: +1.617.614.4503 .  e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com . w: 
www.rocketsoftware.com

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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

Hi Tom,
 
I ran the IEHLIST with FORMAT option and this is what it tells me:
 
SMS.NPE   LRECL  KEYLEN  INITIAL ALLOC  2ND ALLOC    EXTEND LAST 
BLK(T-R-L)  DIR.REM  F2 OR F3(C-H-R)  
DSCB(C-H- R)
   0TRKS1074 12595  
 2 2176 0   1  20  0   1  18
 EATTR
 NS
0    EXTENTS  NO  LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)    NO  LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)    
NO LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)
0  1137  9   1209  2  
1  1209  3 1280  11  2  1280 12 1352  5
0 0  0    0  0  
00  0    0  000  
0   0  0
0 0  0    0  0  
00  0    0  000  
0   0  0
0 0  0    0  0  
00  00  000  

Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

2012-04-26 Thread esmie moo
Bill,
 
In my first e-mail, I displayed the dsn the following way:
 
ISPF 3.4 
ZWA6PWG.ICOD.DMSC.D2012087.T130018 
Next, I typed I besided the dsn
Then it displayed me the dsn stats.



From: Bill Fairchild 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:48:44 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

The display you show below only displays the first 3 extents, which have a 
total of 3*1074=3222 tracks, which is what your previous email said was the 
total of all tracks allocated.  This display also shows a non-zero pointer to a 
F3 DSCB in which will be described up to 13 more extents of which your data set 
will have non-zero values in the first 9, for a grand total of 12*1074=12888 
tracks.  The last block pointer in the display below agrees with the number of 
tracks utilized in your previous email.  It appears that for some reason the 
program that you used to display the data set attributes in your previous email 
ignored the F3 DSCB.  Or perhaps you asked the system to tell you the data set 
attributes in your previous email at just the wrong millisecond when the system 
was also in the midst of updating the F1 DSCB.  Possibly your display request 
read the F1, began formatting the display, then read the F1 again after 
formatting the number of
 tracks allocated but in between!
  your two reads of the F1 the system rewrote the F1 and changed the last block 
pointer field, then when your display request read the F1 again it displayed 
the non-zero last block pointer.  Some code is perhaps not properly serializing 
on the VTOC accesses.  Either way, you should get IBM involved in resolving 
this issue, assuming that IBM wrote the program that you used for your previous 
display.

Bill Fairchild
Programmer
Rocket Software
408 Chamberlain Park Lane . Franklin, TN 37069-2526 . USA
t: +1.617.614.4503 .  e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com . w: 
www.rocketsoftware.com

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

Hi Tom,
 
I ran the IEHLIST with FORMAT option and this is what it tells me:
 
SMS.NPE   LRECL  KEYLEN  INITIAL ALLOC  2ND ALLOC    EXTEND LAST 
BLK(T-R-L)  DIR.REM  F2 OR F3(C-H-R)  
DSCB(C-H- R)
   0TRKS1074 12595  
 2 2176 0   1  20  0   1  18
 EATTR
 NS
0    EXTENTS  NO  LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)    NO  LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)    
NO LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)
0  1137  9   1209  2  
1  1209  3 1280  11  2  1280 12 1352  5
0 0  0    0  0  
00  0    0  000  
0   0  0
0 0  0    0  0  
00  0    0  000  
0   0  0
0 0  0    0  0  
00  00  000  
0   0  0
 ON THE ABOVE DATA SET,THERE ARE   9374 
EMPTY TRACK(S)
0   
 
I am not sure if this confirms the information of ISFP  .  Could you take a 
look please? 



From: Tom Marchant 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:51:11 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:24:10 -0700, esmie moo wrote:

>Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
>The dsn has the following allcation but I am not sure how to correct 
>the problem.   I have never seen before where the current utilization 
>is larger than the allocation.
 
I've never seen that either.  Before attempting any correction, I  would use 
IEHLIST to obtain a LISTVTOC FORMAT and a LISTVTOC DUMP for the data set.  I 
wonder if ISPF is reporting the information correctly.  If the LISTVTOC 
confirms the information that ISPF shows, I'd recommend calling the IBM support 
center.

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Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

2012-04-26 Thread esmie moo
Hi Tom,
 
I ran the IEHLIST with FORMAT option and this is what it tells me:
 
SMS.NPE   LRECL  KEYLEN  INITIAL ALLOC  2ND ALLOC    EXTEND LAST 
BLK(T-R-L)  DIR.REM  F2 OR F3(C-H-R)  
DSCB(C-H- R)
   0TRKS1074 12595  
 2 2176 0   1  20  0   1  18
 EATTR  
 NS 
0    EXTENTS  NO  LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)    NO  LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)    
NO LOW(C-H)   HIGH(C-H)
0  1137  9   1209  2  
1  1209  3 1280  11  2  1280 12 1352  5
0 0  0    0  0  
00  0    0  000  
0   0  0 
0 0  0    0  0  
00  0    0  000  
0   0  0
0 0  0    0  0  
00  00  000  
0   0  0
 ON THE ABOVE DATA SET,THERE ARE   9374 
EMPTY TRACK(S)
0   
 
I am not sure if this confirms the information of ISFP  .  Could you take a 
look please? 



From: Tom Marchant 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:51:11 PM
Subject: Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:24:10 -0700, esmie moo wrote:

>Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
>The dsn has the following allcation but I am not sure how to 
>correct the problem.   I have never seen before where the 
>current utilization is larger than the allocation.
 
I've never seen that either.  Before attempting any correction, 
I  would use IEHLIST to obtain a LISTVTOC FORMAT and a 
LISTVTOC DUMP for the data set.  I wonder if ISPF is reporting 
the information correctly.  If the LISTVTOC confirms the 
information that ISPF shows, I'd recommend calling the IBM 
support center.

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DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

2012-04-26 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
The dsn has the following allcation but I am not sure how to correct the 
problem.   I have never seen before where the current utilization is larger 
than the allocation.
 
 General Data   Current 
Allocation 
 Management class . . : **None**    Allocated tracks  . : 3,222   
 Storage class  . . . : **None**    Allocated extents . : 
12 
  Volume serial . . . : D24V90   
  Device type . . . . : 3390  
  Data class . . . . . : **None**  
  Organization  . . . : PS   Current 
Utilization    
  Record format . . . : U   Used tracks . . . . : 
12,596  
  Record length . . . : 0 Used extents  . . . : 
3   
  Block size  . . . . : 27998    
  1st extent tracks . : 1074 
  Secondary tracks  . : 
1074 Dates  
  Data set name type  : Creation date . . . : 
2012/03/27  
  SMS Compressible. . : NO  Referenced date . . : 
2012/04/26  
  Expiration date . 
. : ***Perm***  

 
Can this be corrected?

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DFHSM QUESTION - PREVENTING SPACE MANAGEMENT FROM EXECUTING

2012-04-03 Thread esmie moo
Good Day Gentle Readers,
 
I need to stop PRIMARY and SECONDARY SPACE management from kicking in.  I 
issued the following SETSYS COMMANDS
 
HSEND SETSYS PRIMARYSPMGMSTART ( ) 
HSEND SETSYS SECONDARYSPMGMSTART ( )
 
I also updated the parmlib member as well.  Should this work?
 
Thanks.

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Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

2012-02-07 Thread esmie moo
If I understand all the explanations put forward and correct me if I am wrong, 
since the dsns/tapes are not SMS managed, the DATACLAS is ignored.
 
Also, the only way to correct this would be at the system level.  Correct me if 
I have erred.



From: "Starr, Alan" 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:18:48 PM
Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

Good morning Esmee,

I don't believe that either "volume count" or "dynamic volume count" will 
affect non-SMS-managed datasets.

Snippets from the dfp Storage Administration Reference:

Volume Count
Volume count is ignored for data sets to which no storage class is assigned.

Dynamic Volume Count is not supported for the following:
- Non-SMS managed data sets or data sets with no associated data class

Regards,
Alan

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esmie moo
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:00 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

Allan,
 
I verified, the tapes are not SMS managed.  You recommended that I "check your 
settings for dynamic volume count".  Would you know what the member in the 
PARMLIB would be?



From: "Staller, Allan" 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:40:36 AM
Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

The big question is are your tapes SMS managed? 

If so, is the dataclas being applied to this tape?

Otherwise, check your settings for dynamic volume count. 

I believe that all will be OK if you code the vol count in JCL (last resort).

HTH,


I am trying to solve the following puzzle.  Some batch jobs which execute are 
being directed to a VSM.  However they abend when the default vol count limit 
of  5 have been reached - s837-08.  I added a vol count of 20 in the default 
DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected.
Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed?  Is there a work around it or do 
I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level?


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Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

2012-02-07 Thread esmie moo
George,
 
Thanks for your suggestion.  The problem is that there are several jcls in 
USERLAND which we will need to modify and there is no way I can find out where 
they are housed.  This is why I thought by adding the parm in the default DC it 
would solve the problem.



From: George Rodriguez 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:47:01 AM
Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

From everything I know about SMS, data class can't be specified for non-SMS
files. The volume count can be placed on the DD card // VOL=(,,,22).

Hope this helps.
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:28 AM, esmie moo  wrote:

> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> I am trying to solve the following puzzle.  Some batch jobs which execute
> are being directed to a VSM.  However they abend when the default vol
> count limit of  5 have been reached - s837-08.  I added a vol count of 20
> in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is
> not being respected.
> Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed?  Is there a work around it
> or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system
> level?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

2012-02-07 Thread esmie moo
Allan,
 
I verified, the tapes are not SMS managed.  You recommended that I "check your 
settings for dynamic volume count".  Would you know what the member in the 
PARMLIB would be?



From: "Staller, Allan" 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:40:36 AM
Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

The big question is are your tapes SMS managed? 

If so, is the dataclas being applied to this tape?

Otherwise, check your settings for dynamic volume count. 

I believe that all will be OK if you code the vol count in JCL (last resort).

HTH,


I am trying to solve the following puzzle.  Some batch jobs which execute are 
being directed to a VSM.  However they abend when the default vol count limit 
of  5 have been reached - s837-08.  I added a vol count of 20 in the default 
DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected.
Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed?  Is there a work around it or do 
I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level?


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DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED

2012-02-07 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to solve the following puzzle.  Some batch jobs which execute are 
being directed to a VSM.  However they abend when the default vol count limit 
of  5 have been reached - s837-08.  I added a vol count of 20 in the default 
DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected.
Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed?  Is there a work around it or do 
I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level?
 
Thanks

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Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
I did contact IBM and they suggested to apply and OEM zap.  Since the client 
insists on keeping the same volsers I have no choice but to backup/delete & 
restore the dsns on the same volume.  My question is there a utility available 
to tell me which dsns on this particular volume could have a segment on another 
volume?  This way I could move the whole dsn on to another volume.



From: Lizette Koehler 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:29:46 AM
Subject: Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

> 
> Thanks for the advice, most probably I will have to do something.  I was
looking at
> doing a logical backup of the volume, using DFDSS and inserting the DELETE
> option.  Next, I plan to re-initialize the volume with a larger VVDS and
restore the dsns
> using a logical restore.  My only concern is if this volume contains
multi-volume dsns
> would I have a problem when trying to restore these dsns?  What I mean by
multi-
> volume dsn is that one segment of the dsn resides on PROD05 and another
segment
> resides on PROD06.  How will this play out?  I was also told that another
option is to
> ZAP the VVDS.  I don't have a utility to do that but I would like to
entertain that option
> as well.  Does anybody know about it? Is it safe to use?
> 
> 
> 

First I would not zap a VVDS without an open PMR with IBM.  That way they
can guide me on what the current tools are they have available.

Next, I would not rush this process.  I would add a new volume to the SMS
Pool and slowly drain the PROD06.  If it is SMS managed pool, then the
volsers are not important.  That the pool has dasd it.

Is there a need in your shop to always have a sequential volume number in
your SMS Pools?  That you could not have a PROD01 PROD03 PROD0A, etc?

Multi-segments are trickier to move.  The application must be down to ensure
no data is being written to it at the time.  I would backup and recover the
entire dataset rather than just one part.  It is safer.


I would also look to print off the VVDS and compare it to the catalogs and
datasets I currently have on the volume.  You may find old names that no
longer exist.  Then you could have IBM help you remove those.

On the www.ibm.com website there are tools documented to zapvvds and other
functions.  I would look at those and see if their functions would help.
But remember, these are unsupported tools.  Use at your own risk.

For example,     
VVDSFIX - An unsupported VSAM utility used to correct problems with catalogs
and VVDS.


Lizette

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Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread esmie moo
Linda,
 
I did what you asked.  I ran the report and moved 90 dsns from the volume, 
however the problem still persists.  I was told to check OEM option to ZAP the 
VVDS.  I would like to try that out but I am not sure where I should look for 
it.  



From: Linda Mooney 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:06:12 PM
Subject: Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

Hi Esmie, 

  

If you want to get a look at the contents of the VVDS, you can run this - 



//STEP1   EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*  
//SYSIN    DD  * 
   PRINT -   
    INDATASET(SYS1.VVDS.Vvolser) -   
    COUNT(1) 


It should shed some light on what has filled it up.  


HTH, 



Linda 



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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:59:24 AM 
Subject: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06) 

Good Afternoon Gentle Readers 
  
I am trying to trouble shoot the following problem : IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, 
PROD06) 
According to the message error explanation it says that the VVDS is full.  When 
I check via ISPF 3.4 is shows that it is a 1 ext.  The VVDS was built at 
TRACKS(30 1).  To fix the problem the doc says to move dsns off that volume.  I 
tried that but the problem persists when the system is trying to allocate a dsn 
on the volume.  Since the volume is SMS managed (phew), I put it at DISNEW.  
The doc says to backup the volume, and reinitialize it with a larger VVDS. 
Is there something else I can try before I try the doc's recommendation? 
  
Thanks in advance. 

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Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
Thanks for the advice, most probably I will have to do something.  I was 
looking at doing a logical backup of the volume, using DFDSS and inserting the 
DELETE option.  Next, I plan to re-initialize the volume with a larger VVDS and 
restore the dsns using a logical restore.  My only concern is if this volume 
contains multi-volume dsns would I have a problem when trying to restore these 
dsns?  What I mean by multi-volume dsn is that one segment of the dsn resides 
on PROD05 and another segment resides on PROD06.  How will this play out?  I 
was also told that another option is to ZAP the VVDS.  I don't have a utility 
to do that but I would like to entertain that option as well.  Does anybody 
know about it? Is it safe to use?



From: Lizette Koehler 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:48:31 PM
Subject: Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

> 
> I am trying to trouble shoot the following problem : IEC331I
050-030(VVDSFULL,
> PROD06) According to the message error explanation it says that the VVDS
is
> full.  When I check via ISPF 3.4 is shows that it is a 1 ext.  The VVDS
was built at
> TRACKS(30 1).  To fix the problem the doc says to move dsns off that
volume.  I tried
> that but the problem persists when the system is trying to allocate a dsn
on the
> volume.  Since the volume is SMS managed (phew), I put it at DISNEW.  The
doc says
> to backup the volume, and reinitialize it with a larger VVDS.
> Is there something else I can try before I try the doc's recommendation?
> 
> Thanks in advance.


The easiest way is to create a new PROD volume to add to the pool.  Make
sure the VTOC, VTOCIX and VVDS are larger than this one.  Do a LISTC
ENT(SYS1.VVDS.PROD06) ALL and see what the sizing looks like and either
double or triple the new one..

then add it to you pool  enabled.

DISNEW the PROD06 and let it drain as best it can.

Isolate the datasets that need an application (CICS, IMS, MQ, etc..) broght
down or the file closed.  Then pick a point you and your customers agree and
move them.

During the rest of the time, see what datasets are not enqueued that can be
moved within the pool easily.

So, rather than doing all that to PROD06, do it to a new volume and
migrate/move the datasets off as you can.

Much easier.  If you have the spare dasd volume.  Then return PROD06 to the
group that gave you the new PROD0x volumes

You might also want to review all VTOC/VTOCIX/VVDS datasets for the other
PRODxx volumes and see if they might have future issues.

Hope that helps.

Lizette 

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Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-17 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
There are 5 large dsns, the rest of the dsns are  (600 trks) or less.  I am 
looking at the SYS1.VVDS.VPROD06.  The LISTCAT shows the following :
 
SYS1.VVDS.VPROD06  30    ? 1



From: Lizette Koehler 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:05:26 PM
Subject: Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

> 
>I am trying to trouble shoot the following problem : IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, 
>PROD06)
>According to the message error explanation it says that the VVDS is full.  
>When I check via ISPF 3.4 is shows that it is a 1 ext.  The VVDS was built at 
>TRACKS(30 1).  To fix the problem the doc says to move dsns off that volume.  
>I tried that but the problem persists when the system is trying to allocate a 
>dsn on the volume.  Since the volume is SMS managed (phew), I put it at 
>DISNEW.  The doc says to backup the volume, and reinitialize it with a larger 
>VVDS.
>Is there something else I can try before I try the doc's recommendation?
> 

esmie,

The key is how many small datasets allocate to that pool vs. big datasets.

Are you looking at the VTOC or VVDS or VTOCIX?  

The VVDS is a vsam dataset.  In my environment it is allocated at 

ALLOCATION                  
  SPACE-TYPE-TRACK  
  SPACE-PRI-75  
  SPACE-SEC-75  

What are your attributes?

DISNEW is good for now until the issue is determined and resolved.

Lizette

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IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-17 Thread esmie moo
Good Afternoon Gentle Readers
 
I am trying to trouble shoot the following problem : IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, 
PROD06)
According to the message error explanation it says that the VVDS is full.  When 
I check via ISPF 3.4 is shows that it is a 1 ext.  The VVDS was built at 
TRACKS(30 1).  To fix the problem the doc says to move dsns off that volume.  I 
tried that but the problem persists when the system is trying to allocate a dsn 
on the volume.  Since the volume is SMS managed (phew), I put it at DISNEW.  
The doc says to backup the volume, and reinitialize it with a larger VVDS.
Is there something else I can try before I try the doc's recommendation?
 
Thanks in advance.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

2011-09-28 Thread esmie moo
Matthew,
 
Thanks for the example.  It worked.  Thanks to all who responded with your 
suggestions.



From: Matthew Stitt 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:37:39 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

I believe what will work is this:


  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -                                          
  BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3))) -  
                OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) -                  
                STORGRP(TMMVOL)


---

Esmie Moo:

Good Morning Gentle Readers,

I am trying to backup dsns via a specific MGMTCLAS, STORGRP and those dsns that 
have not been referred to over 100 days.  I keep getting a syntax error but I 
am unable to find it.  Could someone please point out my error?

  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -                                          
  BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) -  
                OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE)                  
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP '        
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:15:30 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR140E (001)-RI03 (02), INVALID 'BY' CRITERIA                                  

If I try just with BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDSK3J))) -

It works.  Could it be that I cannot select with STIRGRP?  I looked at the doc 
and STORGRP is supported.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

2011-09-27 Thread esmie moo
Matthew,
 
This works, thanks, however since there are lots of dsns I want to limit it to 
a particular STORGRP.



From: Matthew Stitt 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:37:39 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

I believe what will work is this:


  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -                                          
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3))) -  
                OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) -                  
                STORGRP(TMMVOL)


---

Esmie Moo:

Good Morning Gentle Readers,

I am trying to backup dsns via a specific MGMTCLAS, STORGRP and those dsns that 
have not been referred to over 100 days.  I keep getting a syntax error but I 
am unable to find it.  Could someone please point out my error?

  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -                                          
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) -  
                OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE)                  
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP '        
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:15:30 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR140E (001)-RI03 (02), INVALID 'BY' CRITERIA                                  

If I try just with BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDSK3J))) -

It works.  Could it be that I cannot select with STIRGRP?  I looked at the doc 
and STORGRP is supported.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

2011-09-27 Thread esmie moo
Claude,
 
Same problem.  I even changed the MGMTCLAS name and used another class:
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)) -  
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDSK3J)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL)) - 
   OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OPT(4)    
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 14:04:35 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL 




From: "Richbourg, Claude" 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:58:31 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Try swapping the OPT(4) positions with the OUTDD statement and and add one more 
) after your **. 

Should be 'DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)) -'

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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Scott,
 
I tried your suggestion but I get an error:
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL)) -
    OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP '    
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:48:20 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD 'OPT ' IS IMPROPER 
ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND 

It seems to have a problem with the OPT(4) parm.



From: Scott Ford 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:38:14 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Esmie:
 
Unless my eyes are getting too old doesnt this command have one too many ')'
 
Old:
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  - 
BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) - 
OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 
 
New:
 
DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  - 
BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL)) - 
OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 

Regards,
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
 

From: esmie moo 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to backup dsns via a specific MGMTCLAS, STORGRP and those dsns that 
have not been referred to over 100 days.  I keep getting a syntax error but I 
am unable to find it.  Could someone please point out my error?
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -  
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) -  
    OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE)  
 ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP 
'    
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:15:30 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR140E (001)-RI03 (02), INVALID 'BY' CRITERIA  

If I try just with BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDSK3J))) -

It works.  Could it be that I cannot select with STIRGRP?  I looked at the doc 
and STORGRP is supported.
 
Thanks.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

2011-09-27 Thread esmie moo
David,
I checked the doc and it shows that STORGRP:



From: "O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]" 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:43:03 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Plus the doc mentions Storclas not Storgrp, at least 1.11 does.

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From: Scott Ford [mailto:scott_j_f...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:38 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Esmie:
 
Unless my eyes are getting too old doesnt this command have one too many ')'
 
Old:
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  - 
BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) - 
OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 
 
New:
 
DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  - 
BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL)) - 
OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 

Regards,
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
 

From: esmie moo 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to backup dsns via a specific MGMTCLAS, STORGRP and those dsns that 
have not been referred to over 100 days.  I keep getting a syntax error but I 
am unable to find it.  Could someone please point out my error?
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -  
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) -  
    OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE)  
 ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP 
'    
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:15:30 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR140E (001)-RI03 (02), INVALID 'BY' CRITERIA  

If I try just with BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDSK3J))) -

It works.  Could it be that I cannot select with STIRGRP?  I looked at the doc 
and STORGRP is supported.
 
Thanks.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

2011-09-27 Thread esmie moo
Scott,
 
I tried your suggestion but I get an error:
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL)) -
    OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP '    
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:48:20 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD 'OPT ' IS IMPROPER 
ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND 

It seems to have a problem with the OPT(4) parm.



From: Scott Ford 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:38:14 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Esmie:
 
Unless my eyes are getting too old doesnt this command have one too many ')'
 
Old:
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  - 
BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) - 
OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 
 
New:
 
DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  - 
BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL)) - 
OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE) 

Regards,
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
 

From: esmie moo 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to backup dsns via a specific MGMTCLAS, STORGRP and those dsns that 
have not been referred to over 100 days.  I keep getting a syntax error but I 
am unable to find it.  Could someone please point out my error?
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -  
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) -  
    OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE)  
 ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP 
'    
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:15:30 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR140E (001)-RI03 (02), INVALID 'BY' CRITERIA  

If I try just with BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDSK3J))) -

It works.  Could it be that I cannot select with STIRGRP?  I looked at the doc 
and STORGRP is supported.
 
Thanks.

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DFDSS QUESTION - SYNTAX ERROR

2011-09-27 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to backup dsns via a specific MGMTCLAS, STORGRP and those dsns that 
have not been referred to over 100 days.  I keep getting a syntax error but I 
am unable to find it.  Could someone please point out my error?
 
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -  
   BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDAY3)(STORGRP EQ TMMVOL))) -  
    OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE)  
 ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP 
'    
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2011.270 13:15:30 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMEN
ADR140E (001)-RI03 (02), INVALID 'BY' CRITERIA  

If I try just with BY((REFDT,LE,*,-100)(MGMTCLAS EQ TMMDSK3J))) -

It works.  Could it be that I cannot select with STIRGRP?  I looked at the doc 
and STORGRP is supported.
 
Thanks.

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Re: ISMF QUESTION

2011-09-02 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
I checked the dsns, and they all have Management Classes assigned to them.  
Thanks 

From: Lizette Koehler 
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Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION

> 
> I did exactly what you suggested however I do not receive any error
message as you
> had described.  The MC Name line still has --.
>

Is it possible that when the dataset was created it did not have an Mgmtclas
assigned?

To test it, create a similar file that will go through your ACS code the
same way.  Then go into ISMF and see if the mgmtclass is defined.

Lizette

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Re: ISMF QUESTION

2011-09-01 Thread esmie moo
Greg,
 
I did exactly what you suggested however I do not receive any error message as 
you had described.  The MC Name line still has --.

From: Greg Shirey 
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Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION

Esmie,

If you enter MCDEL1 into the VALUE column in the Entry Type line, you should 
get the "INVALID ENTRY TYPE" error message on the panel.  If you want to limit 
your listing by a particular management class, you would enter the MC name in 
the VALUE column for the Management Class Name line, and EQ in the Rel Op 
column - like so:
Management Class Name  . . EQ      DEFAULT  

In any case, I experimented with requesting a list of data sets for a specific 
management class (and we only have one at my shop) and it appears that, for 
VSAM, only the cluster entry will include the MC information, for the DATA or 
INDEX components, the column will be blank.  

On the other hand, I do not have a DEFAULT management class defined, and yet 
when I request ISMF produce a list of data sets, as above, with MC EQ DEFAULT, 
I get a list of data sets.  It's as though ISMF considers a null value for the 
MC as a match.  Sounds like a bug to me  


HTH,
Greg Shirey
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Greg,
 
On page 5 for ENTRY TYPE I used the following :
Entry Type . . . . . . . .EQMCDEL1MCDEL2
 
I was restricting my search for these 2 particular MCs.  However, since it was 
showing -- in MC CLASS column of the report I removed 
these MCs.    

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Re: ISMF QUESTION

2011-08-31 Thread esmie moo
Mike,
 
I would like to try out your suggestion.  When you say browse the resulting 
file wouldn't that have the same data i.e. -- in the MC as extracted by 
ISMF?
Maybe I misunderstood what you said.  Could you provide me with an example?

From: Mike Schwab 
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Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION

You might want to code a DCOLLECT and browse the resulting file.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM, esmie moo  wrote:
> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS 
> via ISMF.  The fields I choose are 3 & 26.
> For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report.  It has 
>  under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME.
> I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens.
> Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so 
> please advise me?
>
> Thanks in adance.
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Re: ISMF QUESTION

2011-08-31 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
The dsns (majority) are PS.  There are a few VSAM files.

From: Lizette Koehler 
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Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION

> 
>I used the "from CATALOG" but I still have the same problem.
> 
>
Are the   for non vsam or vsam datasets?

If Vsam, is it possible the information is only on the Cluster and not the 
Data/index parts?

Lizette

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Re: ISMF QUESTION

2011-08-31 Thread esmie moo
Greg,
 
On page 5 for ENTRY TYPE I used the following :
Entry Type . . . . . . . .EQMCDEL1MCDEL2
 
I was restricting my search for these 2 particular MCs.  However, since it was 
showing -- in MC CLASS column of the report I removed 
these MCs.    


From: Greg Shirey 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:04:17 PM
Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION

Are you limiting your list in ISMF by specifying anything on page 5 for Entry 
Type? 
  
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company 


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Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS 
via ISMF.  The fields I choose are 3 & 26.
For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report.  It has 
 under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME.
I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens.
Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so 
please advise me?

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Re: ISMF QUESTION

2011-08-30 Thread esmie moo
Joel,
 
I used the "from CATALOG" but I still have the same problem.
 
From: Joel C. Ewing 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:44:33 PM
Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION

On 08/30/2011 10:58 AM, esmie moo wrote:
> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> 
> I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS 
> via ISMF.  The fields I choose are 3&  26.
> For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report.  It has 
>  under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME.
> I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens.
> Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so 
> please advise me?
> 
> Thanks in adance.
> 
Since SMS class data is in the catalog, I would suspect that means you need to 
generate your dataset list "from catalog" rather than "from VTOC".  If any dsns 
are migrated, you also need to specify "Y" for "Acquire data if DFSMShsm 
migrated".

Any displayed DATA or INDEX components of VSAM datasets will show null class 
values, as class values belong to the CLUSTER; so if your object is to list 
allocated space associated with VSAM files (which is only on DATA and INDEX) 
for a specific MGMTCLAS, you may not be able to do this easily with ISMF.

-- Joel C. Ewing,    Bentonville, AR      jcew...@acm.org    

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ISMF QUESTION

2011-08-30 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS 
via ISMF.  The fields I choose are 3 & 26.
For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report.  It has 
 under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME.
I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens.
Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so 
please advise me?
 
Thanks in adance.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo


Walter,
 
You hit the nail on the head.  SYSALLDA worked.  I don't know why SYSDA doesn't 
eventhough it is part of the esoteric.
 
Thanks so much for you invaluable help.
 
Thanks to all the posters who helped with this post.  You all are a smashing 
bunch !!
 
From: Walter Marguccio 
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:13:08 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

> I gave that a try however I got the same problem :

Esmie,

is the SYSDA esoteric name conflicting with SHRPP4 volume ?
Wht happens if you give SYSALLDA instead of SYDA  on TAPE1 DD ?

 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
David,
 
I gave that a try however I got the same problem :
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

Here is my JCL:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.TEST4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    STORCLAS=NONSMS,  
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  

I noticed that the NONSMS STORCLAS does not have a FILTLIST.  Maybe this could 
be the problem.  

From: "O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]" 
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:09:24 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Try coding STORCLAS=storage-class-name which in your case would be 
storclas=nonsms

See JCL Reference Chap 12 DD Statement for more details

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules & re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
I am trying to track him down.  I looked at the SMS rules and there is a 
non-SMS storage class called STORCLAS=NONSMS in the ACS.



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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules & re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Rex,
 
Yes, I ensured that it was non-SMS.  Here is the VTOC:
  Device    Volume    Nbr   Free   - Largest -    Nbr    Nbr    
 Nbr  Type Status   Serial    Cyl Cyl   Track    Cyl Track    Ext   Users   
    
 6C01 3390 Private  VE6C01  10017   10012   0  10012 0  1  0    
    
    1 volumes - Total   10017   10012   0   


From: "Pommier, Rex R." 
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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Are you positively, absolutely sure that volume VE6C01 is non-SMS managed?  How 
much space is on the volume?

Can you post an updated JCL stream with the "SYS1." output dataset along with 
the messages, being that there were a couple errors that you have fixed.

Rex



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Greg,

I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
      BYPASSACS(**) -
      STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


From: Greg Shirey 
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale 
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo  wrote:

>
>
> I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
> a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
>
> Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
> From: esmie moo 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
> Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
>
> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
> that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
> volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
> what I get:
> IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
> SYSTEM ERR
> IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
> SET
>
> ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
> IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
> QUIESCED
> IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
> 1
> WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
> SELECTION.
> THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
> WERE:ISTINT1
> IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
> SPACE (041A041D)
>
> I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
> failed because of :
> ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
> 2011
> IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
> MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
>
> Here is my jcl:
>
> //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
> //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
> //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
> //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
> //TAPE1    DD
> DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
> //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
> //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
> //    

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Scott,
 
Thanks for pointing that out.  You could be right.  I will look around for a 
jcl to by STORCLAS. 

From: Scott Rowe 
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:35:59 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmie,

Those control cards are input to DSS, and have absolutely nothing to do with
the allocation of TAPE1, which is in JCL.  By the time DSS reads the control
cards, the allocation of the datasets defined in JCL is already complete.
Those keywords in DSS control statements are used for dynamic allocation of
datasets in COPY operations, and are not valid for DUMP.

If you want TAPE1 to be non-SMS, then there must be something on the JCL
statement that tells the SMS STORCLAS routine to assign a null STORCLAS to
the allocation.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM, esmie moo  wrote:

> Greg,
>
> I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in
> the job:
>      BYPASSACS(**) -
>      STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
>
>
> From: Greg Shirey 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
> Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION
>
> It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your
> email.
> NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.
>
> Greg Shirey
> Ben E. Keith Company
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
> esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION
>
> Don,
>
> I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using
> both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1
> DSN
> ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
> IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
> SYSTEM ERR
> IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
> ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
> IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
> QUIESCED
> IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
> WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
> THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
> IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
> SPACE (04
>
> SYS1 ATTEMPT:
>
> IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
> MANAGED VO
> IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.
>
> From: Don Imbriale 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
> Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION
>
> The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
> DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?
>
> - Don Imbriale
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which
> is
> > a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
> >
> > Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
> > From: esmie moo 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
> > Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
> >
> > Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> >
> > I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
> > that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
> > volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
> > what I get:
> > IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
> > SYSTEM ERR
> > IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
> > SET
> >
> > ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
> > IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
> > QUIESCED
> > IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
> > 1
> > WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
> > SELECTION.
> > THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
> > WERE:ISTINT1
> > IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
> > SPACE (041A041D)
> >
> > I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
> > failed because of :
> > ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
> > 2011
> > IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
> > MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
> >
> > Here is my jcl:
> >
> > //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
> > //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
> > //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
> > //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
> > //T

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Walter,
I need to write the output to a NON-SMS volume because it (volume) will be 
accessed by a test system which has different SMS rules.

From: Walter Marguccio 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:08:20 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

> I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however 

> for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN

if hlq ZWAXPG is 'trapped' by SMS, it means that your SMS ACS routines 

are coded in order to assign a SC and a SG (ISTINT1) to datasets whose hlq is 
ZWAXPG.

Which doesn't mean it is bad. 

The problem which you seem to have here is that SG ISTINT1, which has 5 
volumes, is not
able to allocate 1055 Cyls as primary space. 

Can you try to reduce the primary space with a smaller value ?
Can you try to allocate the dataset with another SMS-owned hlq which will 
choose a 

bigger SG ?


 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Norbert,
 
I received the same error messages.  SMS is still trying to trap it.:
 
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 10:18:27 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 
 
I tried with using the output tape dsn as SYS1 but I got the error:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE 


 
 Here is my job:
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSSMS(**) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  NULLSTORCLAS  -   
  NULLMGMTCLAS -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

 Here's the VTOC of the output volume:
 Device    Volume    Nbr   Free   - Largest -    Nbr    Nbr   
Nbr  Type Status   Serial    Cyl Cyl   Track    Cyl Track    Ext   Users  
  
6C01 3390 Private  VE6C01  10017   10012   0  10012 0  1  0   


From: Norbert Friemel 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13:50 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:02:37 -0700, esmie moo wrote:

>Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


Replace "STORCLAS(NONSMS)" with "NSC NMC"

Norbert Friemel

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


From: Greg Shirey 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie 
moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo  wrote:

>
>
> I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
> a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
>
> Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
> From: esmie moo 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
> Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
>
> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
> that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
> volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
> what I get:
> IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
> SYSTEM ERR
> IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
> SET
>
> ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
> IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
> QUIESCED
> IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
> 1
> WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
> SELECTION.
> THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
> WERE:ISTINT1
> IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
> SPACE (041A041D)
>
> I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
> failed because of :
> ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
> 2011
> IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
> MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
>
> Here is my jcl:
>
> //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
> //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
> //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
> //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
> //TAPE1    DD
> DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
> //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
> //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
> //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
> //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
> //SYSIN    DD *
>    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
>          BYPASSACS(**) -
>          STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
>          OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
> /*
>

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Don,
 
I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

From: Don Imbriale 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo  wrote:

>
>
> I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
> a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
>
> Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
> From: esmie moo 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
> Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
>
> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
> that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
> volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
> what I get:
> IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
> SYSTEM ERR
> IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
> SET
>
> ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
> IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
> QUIESCED
> IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
> 1
> WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
> SELECTION.
> THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
> WERE:ISTINT1
> IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
> SPACE (041A041D)
>
> I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
> failed because of :
> ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
> 2011
> IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
> MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
>
> Here is my jcl:
>
> //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
> //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
> //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
> //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
> //TAPE1    DD
> DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
> //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
> //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
> //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
> //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
> //SYSIN    DD *
>    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
>          BYPASSACS(**) -
>          STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
>          OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
> /*
> //
>
> Can someone suggest what I could try.
>
>

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo


I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is a 
spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
 
Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
From: esmie moo 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is that 
SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to volume 
PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is what I get:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE 
(041A041D)

I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt failed 
because of :
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
Here is my jcl:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  
DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,   
 
//*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

Can someone suggest what I could try.

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DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is that 
SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to volume 
PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is what I get:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE 
(041A041D)

I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt failed 
because of :
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
Here is my jcl:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  
DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,   
 
//*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

Can someone suggest what I could try.

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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
Joel,
 
I changed the PDS (via batch job as posted earlier) and that fixed the 
problem.  Thanks very much for the helping hand.

From: Joel C. Ewing 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:00:56 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

FBA LRECL 133 BLKSIZE 133 is almost certainly NOT correct.  No one in their 
right mind would create a blocked PDS that is effectively unblocked with one 
record per block as you would be getting less the 5% effective track 
utilization on any DASD made in the last 20 years. Undoubtedly someone wrote a 
member to this PDS with batch JCL from a program that had these DCB parameters 
hard-coded internally or with these values hard-coded in the JCL and destroyed 
the correct values. Until you fix the LRECL and BLKSIZE values to something 
that is consistent with the old data you will continue to get I/O errors as 
either the physical blocks in the PDS will be longer than the current BLKSIZE 
or the physical blocks will not be a multiple of the current LRECL, or both.

You need to run some free utility, like the VERIFY command under freebie CBT 
utility PDS85 as others have already suggested, to find the true max blocksize, 
which will almost certainly not be 133.  Or a more complicated approach if you 
have a utility like DFDSS would be to do a hex dump of a track far enough 
inside the PDS to get past the directory blocks and at least that should give 
you the size of some data blocks and imply the LRECL (but unless you hit on a 
member that is multiple blocks, you may not see the max block size). Then it 
should be an easy matter to compute whether the max blocksize is a multiple of 
133, or possibly a multiple of 80, or some other value that would make sense in 
the context of the data contained, and that will enable you to deduce the true 
LRECL.  I'm assuming here the original data was not RECFM VB. If it was, about 
the only way to determine a compatible LRECL and BLKSIZE is to find the largest 
BLKSIZE and then try an
 LRECL of that value minus 4.  That would at least allow reading the data, but 
a complete scan of all logical records would be needed to find the minimum 
acceptable value for LRECL.

Your 2nd problem is to find what not-so-bright programmer or application caused 
the problem in the first place, as you could fix the problem and have it 
immediately re-occur when they re-run the same flawed job step.  The problem is 
undoubted caused by a batch process because there is no way the usual ISPF 
edit, move, copy processes would alter existing PDS DCB attributes.  When a 
batch job step sets the DCB attributes of a PDS to bad values, the new member 
created when the problem was caused will be readable, but it may be the only 
member readable.  This should be a clue as to where blame lies.  If most 
members in the PDS were created from ISPF and have member stats, then that 
would also narrow it down to members without member stats.  Of course if the 
guilty party recognized their error, they might have deleted the bad member to 
hide the evidence.

Once you know the correct BLKSIZE and LRECL, use PDS85 commands to set correct 
values, or JCL techniques previously mentioned in this thread to set those 
values.  That should make all the old members readable.  The RECFM FBA may also 
be suspect, but if the data is really FB this will not prevent viewing the 
members.  If none of the old members have carriage control characters in column 
1, then you should change RECFM to FB as well.

Once you can get to all the old members, only members created with bad LRECL or 
BLKSIZE might be unreadable.  After deleting any of those unreadable members, 
build a new PDS by copying all the members to a new PDS and either rename or 
delete the old PDS as appropriate.  Compress of the old PDS would also 
eliminate the bad block sizes of deleted members, but you might want to keep 
the original dataset around until you are sure there is no chance of needing to 
recover any more member data.

Every time I have seen this problem with a PDS, it is because some programmer 
got the bright idea of saving some batch report in an existing PDS that was 
designed for other uses without understanding that a PDS can only have one set 
of DCB attributes.  A hard rule should be that no batch job step should be 
allowed to write a PDS member without first setting up JCL to write to an 
ordinary sequential data set and verifying that the DCB attributes of the 
sequential data set can be made consistent with those of the PDS.  There are 
still ways to mess up, but the odds are much better.
  JC Ewing
On 07/27/2011 06:35 AM, esmie moo wrote:
> Barry,
> 
> The STORAGE GROUP was backed up via HSM, what I didn't say correctly that the 
> volume was not backed up (full dump).
> When I am able to do a browse of the dsn, all the members are displayed 
> correctly, however when I browse each member I get the following :
> 
> I/O error
> 
>

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
John,
 
Thanks.  I tried out your suggestion and it worked like a charm.  Thanks again.

From: John P Kalinich 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:22:36 AM
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

I would issue the PDS FIXPDS subcommand to change the DCB attributes,
followed by a VERIFY subcommand.  Assuming the LRECL is 80 based on the
block lengths from your previous VERIFY.

  pds 'name.of.dsname'
  fixpds recfm(fb) lrecl(80) blksize(27920)
  verify :
  end

Regards,
John K


                                                                                
                                      
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Paul,

I tried your suggestion,  here is a sample of what I received:

** VERIFY   ADBTS
BLOCK LENGTH OF 20,960 EXCEEDS THE DATA SET DCB BLKSIZE
BLOCK LENGTH OF 20,960 IS NOT DIVISIBLE BY THE DCB LRECL

** VERIFY   ALTERTS
BLOCK LENGTH OF 21,360 EXCEEDS THE DATA SET DCB BLKSIZE
BLOCK LENGTH OF 21,360 IS NOT DIVISIBLE BY THE DCB LRECL

** VERIFY   ALTABLE
BLOCK LENGTH OF 27,920 EXCEEDS THE DATA SET DCB BLKSIZE
BLOCK LENGTH OF 27,920 IS NOT DIVISIBLE BY THE DCB LRECL

** VERIFY   GRANT
BLOCK LENGTH OF  8,240 EXCEEDS THE DATA SET DCB BLKSIZE
BLOCK LENGTH OF  8,240 IS NOT DIVISIBLE BY THE DCB LRECL

Could you tell me what I should do?


From: Paul Strauss 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:15:35 PM
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

If you have PDS or PDS85 on the system it may help.  You can run it in
batch like this:

//TSO  EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//* STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=  load library where PDS is
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
PDS  ' put bad pds here '
VERIFY :                                This command with
the : says to read all members and list the bad ones.
END
//

I'm not sure what you'll get if the dataset looks like a flat file if the
directory was written over, but it may tell you something.

If any members can be read, it will tell you which ones are the bad ones
and you can then create an IEBCOPY job with an Exclude for all the bad
members and copy the good members to a new dataset..

Thank You,

Paul Strauss

Integrated Technology Delivery, Global Services, IBM
L0DB z/OS MVS/Program Products/Security
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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
The use of AMASPZAP is restricted.  No can do.  Thanks for the suggestion.


From: "McKown, John" 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:58:53 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

Well, perhaps my guess was just plain wrong. Maybe something more is wrong than 
with the DCB information. Can you use AMASPZAP to dump the dataset in hex? I've 
done that in the past, too.



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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
> 
> John,
>  
> I followed  your example it add the member JUNK to the pds 
> and I was able to browse the member JUNK which has the X in 
> it.  However, the rest of the members still give the I/O 
> error.  I know that am sounding thick however I am not sure 
> as to what I should do for the other members.  Could you give 
> me an example? 
> 
> From: "McKown, John" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:22:20 PM
> Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
> 
> The "X" is just junk instream data to put into the member 
> JUNK. What it is doesn't matter. I just put it there for completeness.
> 
> --
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> IT
> 
> Administrative Services Group
> 
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> 
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> and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, 
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> National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA 
> Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:17 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
> > 
> > John,
> >  
> > Just to clarify, you have an X do I include it?  Also, I 
> > noticed that you the SYSUT2 has the PDS name as well as the 
> > member name (JUNK).  Could you tell me what it is for?
> > 
> > From: "McKown, John" 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:13:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
> > 
> > I had this happen in the past. A programmer modified the DCB 
> > attributes on the DSCB. If you know what they are supposed to 
> > be, then run an IEBGENER to set them to something good. For a 
> > "card image" (source) type library, I do:
> > 
> > //GENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
> > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSIN DD DUMMY
> > //SYSUT1 DD *
> > X
> > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=MY.SOURCE.PDS(JUNK),DISP=OLD,
> > // DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920,DSORG=PO)
> > //
> > 
> > this is only an example! You need to know what the DCB 
> > characters really are (too large a BLKSIZE is usually OK).
> > 
> > --
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
Binyamin,
 
Your suggestion worked by using RECFM=U,BLKSIZE=32760.  Thanks a million.
 
Thanks to all my Gentle Readers for your contribution.  Great group you all are.

From: Binyamin Dissen 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:49:35 PM
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

The DCB can be changed to RECFM=U,BLKSIZE=32760. That will guarantee that
members can be read. After looking at a few members, the correct values can be
determined.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:59:04 + "Mingee, David"
 wrote:

:>Also, RECFM could have been changed to RECFM=U  vs. FB  if an inappropriate 
task was executed against this file.
:>
:>-Original Message-
:>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf 
Of Roach, Dennis (N-GHG CORP.)
:>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:49 PM
:>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
:>Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
:>
:>Do you know what the LRECL is/should be?
:>Can you read any members?
:>
:>Dennis Roach
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:>Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
:>
:>John,
:> 
:>I followed  your example it add the member JUNK to the pds and I was able to 
browse the member JUNK which has the X in it.  However, the rest of the members 
still give the I/O error.  I know that am sounding thick however I am not sure 
as to what I should do for the other members.  Could you give me an example? 
:>
:>From: "McKown, John" 
:>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
:>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:22:20 PM
:>Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
:>
:>The "X" is just junk instream data to put into the member JUNK. What it is 
doesn't matter. I just put it there for completeness.

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
, Dennis (N-GHG CORP.)
:>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:49 PM
:>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
:>Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
:>
:>Do you know what the LRECL is/should be?
:>Can you read any members?
:>
:>Dennis Roach
:>GHG Corporation
:>Lockheed Martin Mission Services
:>Facilities Design and Operations Contract Strategic Technical Engineering
NASA/JSC
:>Address:
:>  2100 Space Park Drive
:>  LM-15-4BH
:>  Houston, Texas 77058
:>Mail:
:>  P.O. Box 58487
:>  Mail Code H4C
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:>Phone:
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:>
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:>
:>-Original Message-
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Behalf Of esmie moo
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:>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
:>Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
:>
:>John,
:>
:>I followed  your example it add the member JUNK to the pds and I was able
to browse the member JUNK which has the X in it.  However, the rest of the
members still give the I/O error.  I know that am sounding thick however I
am not sure as to what I should do for the other members.  Could you give
me an example?
:>
:>From: "McKown, John" 
:>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
:>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:22:20 PM
:>Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
:>
:>The "X" is just junk instream data to put into the member JUNK. What it
is doesn't matter. I just put it there for completeness.

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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
Barry,
 
The STORAGE GROUP was backed up via HSM, what I didn't say correctly that the 
volume was not backed up (full dump).
When I am able to do a browse of the dsn, all the members are displayed 
correctly, however when I browse each member I get the following :
 
I/O error 

When I press F1 for more info I get the following:
An I/O error was encountered reading the first record requested.

The DCB of the PDS is as follows, however I cannot be sure if it is correct 
since this PDS was inherited from a client
 
Organization  . . . : PO  
Record format . . . : FBA 
Record length . . . : 133 
Block size  . . . . : 133 
1st extent cylinders: 5   
Secondary cylinders : 2   
Data set name type  : PDS 


From: "Schwarz, Barry A" 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:57:31 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

If the storage group is not backed up, how did HSM ever back up a copy for you 
to recover from?  Was there a copy of the dataset on disk when you recovered it 
from HSM?  What was the command you used to perform the recovery?  When you 
browse the PDS, does the member list display correctly?  What are the DCB 
attributes of the PDS?  Do they match what you think they should be?  What is 
the exact error message?

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of esmie moo
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:03 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
>
> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> When I try to browse a member of  my pds I get a I/O error.  I tried
> browsing several members but I get the same error message.  Is there a way
> of fixing it?  For some reason the storage group is NOT backed up so I
> cannot restore it from an old backup.  I recovered the PDS from a DFHSM
> backup but when I try to browse any members I still get the I/O error.  Is
> there a work around to this problem or should I consider it lost?

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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
The message I receive is :
 
I/O error

When I hit F1 (help) I get the following :
 
I/O error

An I/O error was encountered reading the first record requested


From: Ravi Gaur 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:06:03 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

I would like to know what really other message you get with I/O error..any more 
informatory..go with the PDS80 or PDSMAN and see if with the scan members or 
fix you can see more information about the ttoc's etc and it also give you 
report which is more descriptory...I am not sure if it is availablein your 
environment however remember have had one on cbttape..

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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-27 Thread esmie moo
Ed,
 
When I recovered the dsn from the HSM incremental backup there were no error 
messages posted - I received the standard ARC0778I DATA SET WAS RECOVERED 
message.  The datamover is DFDSS.
 
 

From: Ed Gould 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:30:51 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

Chances are thar DFHSM did not back up the dataset after it was corrupted. 
Check DFHSM for the error. Not sure what DFHSM would do if DFDSS were the data 
mover. I would guess that DFDSS invokes IEBCOPY under the covers and it 
wouldn't work so.

Ed

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On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:47 PM, CM Poncelet  wrote:

> This can happen with any PDS if it is opened for output with a DCB other than 
> its original one (e.g. originally RECFM=FB, but opened with RECFM=VB etc.) 
> When opening for output, the DCB used is (a) the one specified in the 
> program; (b) the one in the JCL; (c) the one on DASD - in that order of 
> priority. When opening for input, the priority order is reversed (DASD, JCL, 
> program). If the incorrect output DCB was specified in a program, it needs to 
> be fixed there: this program should then be rerun to open the PDS with its 
> correct attributes; then close the PDS. After that, the original members will 
> be accessible again. But any members which were created using the program's 
> previously incorrect DCB will now hit I/O errors (so copy them to another PDS 
> beforehand if they need to be kept).
> 
> Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
> 
>> If the storage group is not backed up, how did HSM ever back up a copy for 
>> you to recover from?  Was there a copy of the dataset on disk when you 
>> recovered it from HSM?  What was the command you used to perform the 
>> recovery?  When you browse the PDS, does the member list display correctly?  
>> What are the DCB attributes of the PDS?  Do they match what you think they 
>> should be?  What is the exact error message?
>> 
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
>>> Behalf Of esmie moo
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:03 AM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>>> Subject: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
>>> 
>>> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>>> 
>>> When I try to browse a member of  my pds I get a I/O error.  I tried
>>> browsing several members but I get the same error message.  Is there a way
>>> of fixing it?  For some reason the storage group is NOT backed up so I
>>> cannot restore it from an old backup.  I recovered the PDS from a DFHSM
>>> backup but when I try to browse any members I still get the I/O error.  Is
>>> there a work around to this problem or should I consider it lost?
>>>  
>> 
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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-26 Thread esmie moo


I tried it but when I try the copy command it gives me the I/O error.  Thanks 
for your suggestion.

From: John Mattson 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:16:05 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

Create a new larger pds.  Use ISPF option 3.3 to copy any members... one 
at a time... as you can.  That should save some 
PRINT the data set and that may show you "some parts" of the missing 
members in a flat file 
Finally try to compress it.  Compress may save it... or totally destroy 
it. 
So, exactly WHY are you not backing this thing up ?  Naughty boy. 



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Subject:        CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
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Good Morning Gentle Readers,

When I try to browse a member of  my pds I get a I/O error.  I tried 
browsing several members but I get the same error message.  Is there a way 
of fixing it?  For some reason the storage group is NOT backed up so I 
cannot restore it from an old backup.  I recovered the PDS from a DFHSM 
backup but when I try to browse any members I still get the I/O error.  Is 
there a work around to this problem or should I consider it lost?

Thanks. 

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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-26 Thread esmie moo
John,
 
I followed  your example it add the member JUNK to the pds and I was able to 
browse the member JUNK which has the X in it.  However, the rest of the members 
still give the I/O error.  I know that am sounding thick however I am not sure 
as to what I should do for the other members.  Could you give me an example? 

From: "McKown, John" 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:22:20 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

The "X" is just junk instream data to put into the member JUNK. What it is 
doesn't matter. I just put it there for completeness.

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> 
> John,
>  
> Just to clarify, you have an X do I include it?  Also, I 
> noticed that you the SYSUT2 has the PDS name as well as the 
> member name (JUNK).  Could you tell me what it is for?
> 
> From: "McKown, John" 
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> Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR
> 
> I had this happen in the past. A programmer modified the DCB 
> attributes on the DSCB. If you know what they are supposed to 
> be, then run an IEBGENER to set them to something good. For a 
> "card image" (source) type library, I do:
> 
> //GENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN DD DUMMY
> //SYSUT1 DD *
> X
> //SYSUT2 DD DSN=MY.SOURCE.PDS(JUNK),DISP=OLD,
> // DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920,DSORG=PO)
> //
> 
> this is only an example! You need to know what the DCB 
> characters really are (too large a BLKSIZE is usually OK).
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> > Good Morning Gentle Readers,
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> > When I try to browse a member of  my pds I get a I/O error.  
> > I tried browsing several members but I get the same error 
> > message.  Is there a way of fixing it?  For some reason the 
> > storage group is NOT backed up so I cannot restore it from an 
> > old backup.  I recovered the PDS from a DFHSM backup but when 
> > I try to browse any members I still get the I/O error.  Is 
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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-26 Thread esmie moo
John,
 
Just to clarify, you have an X do I include it?  Also, I noticed that you the 
SYSUT2 has the PDS name as well as the member name (JUNK).  Could you tell me 
what it is for?

From: "McKown, John" 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:13:12 PM
Subject: Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

I had this happen in the past. A programmer modified the DCB attributes on the 
DSCB. If you know what they are supposed to be, then run an IEBGENER to set 
them to something good. For a "card image" (source) type library, I do:

//GENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD DUMMY
//SYSUT1 DD *
X
//SYSUT2 DD DSN=MY.SOURCE.PDS(JUNK),DISP=OLD,
// DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920,DSORG=PO)
//

this is only an example! You need to know what the DCB characters really are 
(too large a BLKSIZE is usually OK).

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> 
> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>  
> When I try to browse a member of  my pds I get a I/O error.  
> I tried browsing several members but I get the same error 
> message.  Is there a way of fixing it?  For some reason the 
> storage group is NOT backed up so I cannot restore it from an 
> old backup.  I recovered the PDS from a DFHSM backup but when 
> I try to browse any members I still get the I/O error.  Is 
> there a work around to this problem or should I consider it lost?
>  
> Thanks. 
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CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-07-26 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
When I try to browse a member of  my pds I get a I/O error.  I tried browsing 
several members but I get the same error message.  Is there a way of fixing 
it?  For some reason the storage group is NOT backed up so I cannot restore it 
from an old backup.  I recovered the PDS from a DFHSM backup but when I try to 
browse any members I still get the I/O error.  Is there a work around to this 
problem or should I consider it lost?
 
Thanks. 

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Re: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED

2011-07-18 Thread esmie moo
Jonathan,
 
Thanks very much for your help.  

--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Jonathan Goossen  wrote:


From: Jonathan Goossen 
Subject: Re: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 4:49 AM


This looks correct. You JCL runs TMSCOPY to backup the TMC and audit 
files. If the audit file gets down to 3 records, your tape processing 
would stop until you ran TMSCOPY.

The message may be due to a much larger tape activity on a one time bases, 
in which case you likely need look no further. But if it is from normal 
growth, then you will start seeing the message more often, in which case 
you will either need to run TMSCOPY more frequently, or expand your audit 
file.

Thank you and have a Terrific day!

Jonathan Goossen, ACS, CL
Tape Specialist
ACT Mainframe Storage Group
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> From: esmie moo 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Date: 07/18/2011 11:18 AM
> Subject: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED
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>  
> I was called because the following message was coming up on the console:
> IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED, AUDIT FILE UTILISATION IS CURRENTLY 82%.
>  
> I executed the following job:
> //STEP1     EXEC PGM=TMSCOPY,REGION=7M      
> //TMSRPT     DD  SYSOUT=*                                        
> //TMSOPTNS   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS4.TMS.PARMLIB(TMSOPTNS)         
> //DUMPDD     DD  DSN=TMS.HESZ94M1(+1),UNIT=TAPE,                 
> //          LABEL=1,DISP=(,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32640),   
> //          VOL=(,RETAIN)                
> //DUMPDD2    DD  DSN=TMS.HESZ94M2(+1),UNIT=TAPE,                 
> //          LABEL=1,DISP=(,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32640),   
> //          VOL=(,RETAIN),DATACLAS=OFFSITE                       
> //AUDITDD    DD  DSN=SYS4.TMS.AUDIT,DISP=SHR                     
> //AUDUMP     DD  DSN=&&AUDIT,UNIT=PASS,DISP=(,PASS),             
> //     SPACE=(CYL,(20,5)),DCB=BLKSIZE=8880  
> //
> 
*                                                                               
> //STEP2     EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,LT)                              
> //SYSPRINT   DD  SYSOUT=*                                              
> //SYSUT1     DD  DSN=&&AUDIT,DISP=(OLD,PASS)                           
> //SYSUT2     DD  
DSN=TMS.HESZ94AF(+1),UNIT=TAPE,LABEL=2,                      
> //    VOL=REF=*.STEP1.DUMPDD,DISP=(,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32560) 
> //SYSIN      DD  
> DUMMY                                                              
> //*                                               
> //STEP3     EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,LT)                              
> //SYSPRINT   DD  SYSOUT=*                                              
> //SYSUT1     DD  DSN=&&AUDIT,DISP=(OLD,DELETE)                         
> //SYSUT2     DD  DSN=TMS.HESZ94AF.COPYIDS(+1),UNIT=TAPE,LABEL=2,       
> //     VOL=REF=*.STEP1.DUMPDD2,DATACLAS=OFFSITE,                       
> //     DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32560)                    
> //SYSIN      DD  DUMMY                                                 
> //*                                                                    
>  
> What I would like to know if this is the correct action to take or 
> should I have done something else.  Please advise.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
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CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED

2011-07-18 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I was called because the following message was coming up on the console:
IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED, AUDIT FILE UTILISATION IS CURRENTLY 82%.
 
I executed the following job:
//STEP1 EXEC PGM=TMSCOPY,REGION=7M  
//TMSRPT DD  SYSOUT=*    
//TMSOPTNS   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS4.TMS.PARMLIB(TMSOPTNS) 
//DUMPDD DD  DSN=TMS.HESZ94M1(+1),UNIT=TAPE, 
//  LABEL=1,DISP=(,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32640),   
//  VOL=(,RETAIN)    
//DUMPDD2    DD  DSN=TMS.HESZ94M2(+1),UNIT=TAPE, 
//  LABEL=1,DISP=(,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32640),   
//  VOL=(,RETAIN),DATACLAS=OFFSITE   
//AUDITDD    DD  DSN=SYS4.TMS.AUDIT,DISP=SHR 
//AUDUMP DD  DSN=&&AUDIT,UNIT=PASS,DISP=(,PASS), 
// SPACE=(CYL,(20,5)),DCB=BLKSIZE=8880  
//*   
 //STEP2 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,LT)  
//SYSPRINT   DD  SYSOUT=*  
//SYSUT1 DD  DSN=&&AUDIT,DISP=(OLD,PASS)   
//SYSUT2 DD  DSN=TMS.HESZ94AF(+1),UNIT=TAPE,LABEL=2,  
//    VOL=REF=*.STEP1.DUMPDD,DISP=(,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32560) 
//SYSIN  DD  
DUMMY  
//*   
//STEP3 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,LT)  
//SYSPRINT   DD  SYSOUT=*  
//SYSUT1 DD  DSN=&&AUDIT,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) 
//SYSUT2 DD  DSN=TMS.HESZ94AF.COPYIDS(+1),UNIT=TAPE,LABEL=2,   
// VOL=REF=*.STEP1.DUMPDD2,DATACLAS=OFFSITE,   
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DCB=(DUMDSCB,BLKSIZE=32560)    
//SYSIN  DD  DUMMY 
//*    
 
What I would like to know if this is the correct action to take or should I 
have done something else.  Please advise.
 
Thanks in advance.


 
 

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Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY

2011-07-04 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
I tried using the ISPF Panvalet utility and encountered the problem as well.  
When I try to copy the member from my PDS to the Standard CA-Panvalet library I 
get the error message INVALID PANVALET LIBRARY
The library has incorrect DSORG, RECFM, or is not a compatible version

--- On Mon, 7/4/11, Lizette Koehler  wrote:


From: Lizette Koehler 
Subject: Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Monday, July 4, 2011, 11:42 PM


> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> 
> I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using
FILE-
> AID.  However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the "to"
dataset which is
> the Panvalet pds.
> ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset.
> 
> Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS?  Could
someone
> suggest a work around?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
>

I have not used Panvalet in a long time.  But if it is still this way, only
Pan Utilities can update Panvalet datasets.

If you have the Panvalet manuals, there are ++ control cards in PANVALET
that you use in batch with Pan Programs.

Panvalet, IIRC, cannot use any utility to access it.  It can only be updated
with PGM=PAN#  type program names.

You cannot use FILEAID, IDCAMS, IEBCOPY when working with Panvalet datasets.
Panvalet has utilities to access Pan datasets.  
Do you have the ISPF Interface available?  If so, you should be able to use
those to do what you want.

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PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY

2011-07-04 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using 
FILE-AID.  However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the "to" 
dataset which is the Panvalet pds.
ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset. 

Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS?  Could someone 
suggest a work around?
 
Thanks in advance.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

2011-05-19 Thread esmie moo
Richard,
 
Thanks for the advice.  I ran the audit then the FIX followed by the RECYCLE.  
Should I have done anything else?

--- On Thu, 5/19/11, Richard Marchant  wrote:


From: Richard Marchant 
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE
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Received: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 9:50 PM


Try the following command to fix the inconsistencies:

HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dset.name)

Richard

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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am performing a cleanup of HSM dsns and I executed the following command:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FAILEDCREATE) OUTDATASET(PROM.DF.FAILEDCREA)
Several tapes were flagged and this message is being posted after each tape.
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT ON TAPE VOLUME

According to the explanation of the ARC0378I "of a mismatch between the 
indicated 
data sets on the tape volume volser as described in the offline control data 
set record (OCDS) tape table of contents record (TTOC) and the actual data sets 
residing on the volume."  The solution is to apply the EXTENDED 
MEDIACONTROLS function.  I am not sure how I can go about it because I have not 
very familiar with this procedure.  Could someone tell me how I can go about 
fixing the problem?
 
Thanks    





 

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DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

2011-05-18 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am performing a cleanup of HSM dsns and I executed the following command:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FAILEDCREATE) OUTDATASET(PROM.DF.FAILEDCREA)
Several tapes were flagged and this message is being posted after each tape.
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT ON TAPE VOLUME

According to the explanation of the ARC0378I "of a mismatch between the 
indicated 
 data sets on the tape volume volser as described in the offline control data 
set record (OCDS) tape table of contents record (TTOC) and the actual data sets 
residing on the volume."  The solution is to apply the EXTENDED 
MEDIACONTROLS function.  I am not sure how I can go about it because I have not 
very familiar with this procedure.  Could someone tell me how I can go about 
fixing the problem?
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - AGE DAYS

2011-05-10 Thread esmie moo
Thanks Rex for spotting my error.  Many thanks.

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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - AGE DAYS
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Take the word "days" out.

HSEND LIST DSN MCDS SEL(AGE(3300))




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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - AGE DAYS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,

I am trying to find out the dsns that have been migrated and have not been 
referenced for 3,000 days.  Here is my command:
HSEND LIST DSN MCDS SEL(AGE(DAYS3300))

I noticed that there are dsns which have been created as recent as April 27, 
2011 which appear on the list.

I cannot spot my mistake could someone please point out my error or advise me 
on how to go about it?

Thanks in advance.

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DFHSM QUESTION - AGE DAYS

2011-05-10 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to find out the dsns that have been migrated and have not been 
referenced for 3,000 days.  Here is my command:
 HSEND LIST DSN MCDS SEL(AGE(DAYS3300))

I noticed that there are dsns which have been created as recent as April 27, 
2011 which appear on the list.
 
I cannot spot my mistake could someone please point out my error or advise me 
on how to go about it?
 
Thanks in advance.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - TTOC

2011-03-09 Thread esmie moo
David,
 
It does not have a value of 4 however it does have a value of 1.  I looked at 
the TTOC report and I noticed that the FBID has a sequential order e.g:
 
   DATA SET 
NAME   RELATIVE FBID

SYS2.AS.JOBSCAN.REPORT 001
BACT.FORT1008.SERIAT.DATA.X    002
.
 003
.
 004
OFOX.D010.HASP56.TRIAL.BALANCE 0014430
 


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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - TTOC
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Does the Sys2.** dataset have a value of 4 in the Rel FBID field? If yes, then 
it is the first dataset on the tape. The following is from the section Using 
the List command toward the end of the DFHSM Storage Ref. manual:

RELATIVE FBID    e REL FBID     e This field contains the file sequence   
                 e              e number of this data set or the set of   
                 e              e blocks relative to the beginning of the 
                 e              e single tape volume. For example, the fir
                 e              e data set or data set segment on the tape
                 e              e volume has a relative FBID of 4         
                 e              e independent of any predecessor tapes.   

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor


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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - TTOC

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I issued a TTOC command of a ML2 volume.  The report displayed all the dsns on 
that tape.  My question is are the dsns on the tape listed according to 
the order they were migrated.  For example the first dataset listed in the TTOC 
report is SYS2.AS.JOBSCAN.REPORT.  The last tape is 
OFOX.D010.HASP56.TRIAL.BALANCE.  
Am I correct in thinking that the SYS2 dsn is the first dsn on the tape and the 
OFOX is the last dsn on the tape?  
 
I would be very greatful if someone could clear this up for me.
 
Thank you all in advance.



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DFHSM QUESTION - TTOC

2011-03-09 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I issued a TTOC command of a ML2 volume.  The report displayed all the dsns on 
that tape.  My question is are the dsns on the tape listed according to 
the order they were migrated.  For example the first dataset listed in the TTOC 
report is SYS2.AS.JOBSCAN.REPORT.  The last tape is 
OFOX.D010.HASP56.TRIAL.BALANCE.  
Am I correct in thinking that the SYS2 dsn is the first dsn on the tape and the 
OFOX is the last dsn on the tape?  
 
I would be very greatful if someone could clear this up for me.
 
Thank you all in advance.



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Re: SEARCH FOR QUESTION - ISPF 3.4

2011-02-16 Thread esmie moo
Thanks to all who have responded.  The SRCHFOR SYS2.CDB2.SDTWHFX (without the 
quotes) worked.  
 
Thanks again.

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On 2/16/2011 6:52 AM, Haynes, Stan wrote:
> SRCHFOR does indeed work from ISPF 3.4 .
>
> Using 3.4 to list all our PROCLIBs, I just used it to look for
> a DSN qualifier in any proc in any lib, and it works just fine.
> It worked when I typed SRCHFOR VMA on the command line, but
> found no results when I typed SRCHFOR "VMA".
>
> Stan
> mailto:stan.hay...@cra-arc.gc.ca
> (613) 941-8091
>

My experience is that although SRCHFOR is _said_ to work
from data set lists in 3.4, it does not do a very good
job when looking for a string in members; it simply seems
to miss a lot. It does OK in looking in sequential files.

To find a string in members I find I need to get into a
member list of each library and issue SRCHFOR from that
command line.

Regarding your quoted vs. un-quoted argument string, you
might try the more powerful technique of issuing SRCHFOR
with no argument, which brings up a panel for you to fill
in the string you're looking for (including multiple strings
and whether your search should be case-sensitive or not.)
Hit F1 for support information once you're at the DSLIST
Srchfor Options panel.

I think I saw someone else suggest this technique in this
thread and it's good.

The ISPF User's Guide Volume II is a little careless on
describing this process.

>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Steve Comstock
> Sent: February 16, 2011 8:42 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: SEARCH FOR QUESTION - ISPF 3.4
>
> On 2/16/2011 5:16 AM, esmie moo wrote:
>> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>>
>> I am trying to find a certain dsn which was backed up by DFDSS.
>> In the job we create a GDG (6 generations) list of the VTOC on DASD.
>> I go into ISPF 3.4, type in the HLQ dsns of the VTOC backup lists
>> (3,435 dsns are selected) My problem is when I issue the command
>> SRCHFOR "SYS2.CDB2.SDTWHFX" the SuperC Search-for is invoked but
>> the command returns back the message "String(s) not found" after
>> several minutes.
>>     My question is can the SRCHFOR command work when in ISPF 3.4?
>> If so could somebody advise me as to how I can go about it.
>> The SRCHFOR command works when I am in a PDS/PDSE but not when I
>> am in ISPF 3.4.
>>
>> I ran a test by browsing one of the VTOC list backups and it
>> appears in this particular backup list.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
> Think of SRCHFOR as a member-list command.
>
> It sounds to me what you need is FIND; when you have
> 3.4 data set list, the FIND command will locate the
> name you're after.
>
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SEARCH FOR QUESTION - ISPF 3.4

2011-02-16 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to find a certain dsn which was backed up by DFDSS.  In the job we 
create a GDG (6 generations) list of the VTOC on DASD.  I go into ISPF 3.4, 
type in the HLQ dsns of the VTOC backup lists (3,435 dsns are selected) My 
problem is when I issue the command SRCHFOR "SYS2.CDB2.SDTWHFX" the SuperC 
Search-for is invoked but the command returns back the message "String(s) not 
found" after several minutes.
  My question is can the SRCHFOR command work when in ISPF 3.4?  If so could 
somebody advise me as to how I can go about it.  The SRCHFOR command works when 
I am in a PDS/PDSE but not when I am in ISPF 3.4.
 
I ran a test by browsing one of the VTOC list backups and it appears in 
this particular backup list.
 
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Re: LIST OF DSNS CREATED PRIOR TO 2010

2011-01-10 Thread esmie moo
Elardus,
 
It works.  
 
--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Elardus Engelbrecht  wrote:


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esmie moo wrote:
>I took a closer look at ISMF and I noticed it does provide for the feature for 
getting a dsn list using the CREATION DATE, however I am stuck trying in to 
plug in values in the REL OP and Value field.

Press your PF key for Help and see this part of screen print:

For example, to display a list containing data sets created during 1983:    
                                                                            
                               REL OP   VALUE     AND/OR  REL OP    VALUE   
                               -- --  --  --  --
  CREATION DATE           ===> GE     1983/01/01  AND     LE      1983/12/31

Groete / Greetings
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Re: LIST OF DSNS CREATED PRIOR TO 2010

2011-01-10 Thread esmie moo
Hi Elardus,
 
Thanks for the tip.  I tried your suggestion but I get the errror message 
"INVALID CRITERIA".  Below is my input :
 
Creation Date . . . . . . . GE  2009/01/01  AND LE  1983/12/31 

I tried = and > but no luck.

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esmie moo wrote:
>I took a closer look at ISMF and I noticed it does provide for the feature for 
getting a dsn list using the CREATION DATE, however I am stuck trying in to 
plug in values in the REL OP and Value field.

Press your PF key for Help and see this part of screen print:

For example, to display a list containing data sets created during 1983:    
                                                                            
                               REL OP   VALUE     AND/OR  REL OP    VALUE   
                               -- --  --  --  --
  CREATION DATE           ===> GE     1983/01/01  AND     LE      1983/12/31

Groete / Greetings
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Re: LIST OF DSNS CREATED PRIOR TO 2010

2011-01-10 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
I checked there is no CA producst installed on this partition.  I took a closer 
look at ISMF and I noticed it does provide for the feature for getting a dsn 
list using the CREATION DATE, however I am stuck trying in to plug in values in 
the REL OP and Value field.

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Lizette Koehler  wrote:


From: Lizette Koehler 
Subject: Re: LIST OF DSNS CREATED PRIOR TO 2010
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Received: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 2:14 AM


> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> 
> Is there a utility that I could use to compile a list of dsns which were
created in 2009 or
> before.  My problem is that we do not have the FDR products installed in
this partition
> whic could do the trick.  Also, 99% of the dsns are archived to ML2.  I
was thinking of
> using IEHLIST etc however that would entail in recalling all the dsns to
DASD.  I
> checked the first 3 HLQ's and there are about 150,000 dsns.  Should I
recall them to
> dasd I could run the risk of saturating the ML0 volumes.
> 
> Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 

Do you have any of the following CA products in house?

PDSMAN, CA1, CA-DISK?

If so, you can download and install the CA software GMI (Graphical Manager
Interface) which is CA-Vantage Light.  It can help you with these types of
questions.

I have installed in on my system and works fairly well.

As for the HSM Migrated datasets - you do not need to recall them.  Run an
HLIST on them with either MCDS (Migration), BCDS (Backup ) or BOTH (Both
MCDS/BCDS).  You can then extract the information you need.



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Re: LIST OF DSNS CREATED PRIOR TO 2010

2011-01-10 Thread esmie moo
I forgot to mention that I looked at ISMF, however it does not give me the 
option to use a FROM and TO option.

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Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
Is there a utility that I could use to compile a list of dsns which were 
created in 2009 or before.  My problem is that we do not have the FDR products 
installed in this partition whic could do the trick.  Also, 99% of the dsns are 
archived to ML2.  I was thinking of using IEHLIST etc however that would entail 
in recalling all the dsns to DASD.  I checked the first 3 HLQ's and there are 
about 150,000 dsns.  Should I recall them to dasd I could run the risk of 
saturating the ML0 volumes.
 
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.



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LIST OF DSNS CREATED PRIOR TO 2010

2011-01-10 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
Is there a utility that I could use to compile a list of dsns which were 
created in 2009 or before.  My problem is that we do not have the FDR products 
installed in this partition whic could do the trick.  Also, 99% of the dsns are 
archived to ML2.  I was thinking of using IEHLIST etc however that would entail 
in recalling all the dsns to DASD.  I checked the first 3 HLQ's and there are 
about 150,000 dsns.  Should I recall them to dasd I could run the risk of 
saturating the ML0 volumes.
 
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.



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Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I

2010-12-15 Thread esmie moo
Scott,
 
Unknown to me somebody had changed it from OSFORMAT to IXFORMAT.  I reran the 
job to change it back to OSFORMAT and redefine the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 to 75 
tracks.
 
Thanks for your help.


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From: Scott Rowe 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
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It looks like the VTOC is currently indexed, it has to be OS format before
you can delete the index dataset.

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:37 AM, esmie moo  wrote:

> I tried to delete the entry but I was unsuccessful:
>
>  DELETE 'SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09' FILE(VOLUME) NVR
> IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
> IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 102 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFP-2
> IDC0551I ** ENTRY SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 NOT DELETED
> IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8
>
> Any suggestion?
>
>
> --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:
>
>
> From: Scott Rowe 
> Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Received: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 3:25 AM
>
>
> Yes, that should work.
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:03 AM, esmie moo  wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > Just that I understand you correctly, here is my job which I will run
> after
> > I have deleted the  SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09.  Let me know if I am on the right
> > track.  Thanks again.
> > /*
> > //STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'
> > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> > //VTOC     DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),
> > //             DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG)
> > //SYSIN    DD  *
> >   BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC
> > /*
> > //
> >
> >
> > -- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Scott Rowe 
> > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Received: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:48 AM
> >
> >
> > Yes, it is normal for it not to be cataloged.  Deleting and re-allocating
> > it
> > is also normal,as is running your BUILDIX after you re-allocate it.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM, esmie moo  wrote:
> >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > Thanks.  I noticed that the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 is not cataloged.  Is
> that
> > > normal.  Also, by deleting and re-allocating it with a larger size do
> you
> > > see a problem?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Scott Rowe 
> > > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > > Received: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:26 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, I believe you can just delete it, as long as the VTOC is currently
> > in
> > > OS format.  There should be nothing "special" about it, just a simple
> > > IEFBR14 or any other kind of delete that bypasses the catalog should
> > work.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, esmie moo  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> > > >
> > > > I received an alert on one of our volumes saying that there were 0
> VIRS
> > > > available.  I would like to increase the size of the
> > > > SYS1SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 .
> > > >
> > > > In order to fix the problem I tried to do the following :
> > > > BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) OSVTOC PURGE followed by a
> > > >
> > > >  /*
> > > > //STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'
> > > > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> > > > //VTOC     DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),
> > > > //             DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG)
> > > > //SYSIN    DD  *
> > > >   BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC
> > > > /*
> > > > //
> > > > However, I received the error message on the first step. :
> > > > ICK01503I C772 REQUEST RECEIVED TO CONVERT VTOC TO OSFORMAT
> > > > ICK31505I C772 VTOC FORMAT IS CURRENTLY OSFORMAT, REQUEST REJECTED
> > > > ICK31515I C772 BUILDIX COMMAND FAILED.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to delete the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 so that it can
> > > > be reallocated?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I

2010-12-15 Thread esmie moo
I tried to delete the entry but I was unsuccessful:
 
 DELETE 'SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09' FILE(VOLUME) NVR   
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR  
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 102 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFP-2 
IDC0551I ** ENTRY SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 NOT DELETED    
IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8   
   
Any suggestion? 


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From: Scott Rowe 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
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Yes, that should work.

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:03 AM, esmie moo  wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Just that I understand you correctly, here is my job which I will run after
> I have deleted the  SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09.  Let me know if I am on the right
> track.  Thanks again.
> /*
> //STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> //VTOC     DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),
> //             DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG)
> //SYSIN    DD  *
>   BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC
> /*
> //
>
>
> -- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:
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>
> From: Scott Rowe 
> Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Received: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:48 AM
>
>
> Yes, it is normal for it not to be cataloged.  Deleting and re-allocating
> it
> is also normal,as is running your BUILDIX after you re-allocate it.
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM, esmie moo  wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > Thanks.  I noticed that the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 is not cataloged.  Is that
> > normal.  Also, by deleting and re-allocating it with a larger size do you
> > see a problem?
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Scott Rowe 
> > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Received: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:26 AM
> >
> >
> > Yes, I believe you can just delete it, as long as the VTOC is currently
> in
> > OS format.  There should be nothing "special" about it, just a simple
> > IEFBR14 or any other kind of delete that bypasses the catalog should
> work.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, esmie moo  wrote:
> >
> > > Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> > >
> > > I received an alert on one of our volumes saying that there were 0 VIRS
> > > available.  I would like to increase the size of the
> > > SYS1SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 .
> > >
> > > In order to fix the problem I tried to do the following :
> > > BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) OSVTOC PURGE followed by a
> > >
> > >  /*
> > > //STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'
> > > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> > > //VTOC     DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),
> > > //             DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG)
> > > //SYSIN    DD  *
> > >   BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC
> > > /*
> > > //
> > > However, I received the error message on the first step. :
> > > ICK01503I C772 REQUEST RECEIVED TO CONVERT VTOC TO OSFORMAT
> > > ICK31505I C772 VTOC FORMAT IS CURRENTLY OSFORMAT, REQUEST REJECTED
> > > ICK31515I C772 BUILDIX COMMAND FAILED.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to delete the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 so that it can
> > > be reallocated?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I

2010-12-15 Thread esmie moo
Scott,
 
Just that I understand you correctly, here is my job which I will run after I 
have deleted the  SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09.  Let me know if I am on the right track.  
Thanks again.
/*   
//STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*  
//VTOC DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),    
// DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG) 
//SYSIN    DD  * 
  BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC    
/*   
//   

 
-- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:


From: Scott Rowe 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:48 AM


Yes, it is normal for it not to be cataloged.  Deleting and re-allocating it
is also normal,as is running your BUILDIX after you re-allocate it.

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM, esmie moo  wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Thanks.  I noticed that the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 is not cataloged.  Is that
> normal.  Also, by deleting and re-allocating it with a larger size do you
> see a problem?
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:
>
>
> From: Scott Rowe 
> Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Received: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:26 AM
>
>
> Yes, I believe you can just delete it, as long as the VTOC is currently in
> OS format.  There should be nothing "special" about it, just a simple
> IEFBR14 or any other kind of delete that bypasses the catalog should work.
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, esmie moo  wrote:
>
> > Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> >
> > I received an alert on one of our volumes saying that there were 0 VIRS
> > available.  I would like to increase the size of the
> > SYS1SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 .
> >
> > In order to fix the problem I tried to do the following :
> > BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) OSVTOC PURGE followed by a
> >
> >  /*
> > //STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'
> > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> > //VTOC     DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),
> > //             DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG)
> > //SYSIN    DD  *
> >   BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC
> > /*
> > //
> > However, I received the error message on the first step. :
> > ICK01503I C772 REQUEST RECEIVED TO CONVERT VTOC TO OSFORMAT
> > ICK31505I C772 VTOC FORMAT IS CURRENTLY OSFORMAT, REQUEST REJECTED
> > ICK31515I C772 BUILDIX COMMAND FAILED.
> >
> > Is there a way to delete the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 so that it can
> > be reallocated?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I

2010-12-14 Thread esmie moo
Scott,
 
Thanks.  I noticed that the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 is not cataloged.  Is that 
normal.  Also, by deleting and re-allocating it with a larger size do you see a 
problem?


--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Scott Rowe  wrote:


From: Scott Rowe 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:26 AM


Yes, I believe you can just delete it, as long as the VTOC is currently in
OS format.  There should be nothing "special" about it, just a simple
IEFBR14 or any other kind of delete that bypasses the catalog should work.

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, esmie moo  wrote:

> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> I received an alert on one of our volumes saying that there were 0 VIRS
> available.  I would like to increase the size of the
> SYS1SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 .
>
> In order to fix the problem I tried to do the following :
> BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) OSVTOC PURGE followed by a
>
>  /*
> //STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> //VTOC     DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),
> //             DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG)
> //SYSIN    DD  *
>   BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC
> /*
> //
> However, I received the error message on the first step. :
> ICK01503I C772 REQUEST RECEIVED TO CONVERT VTOC TO OSFORMAT
> ICK31505I C772 VTOC FORMAT IS CURRENTLY OSFORMAT, REQUEST REJECTED
> ICK31515I C772 BUILDIX COMMAND FAILED.
>
> Is there a way to delete the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 so that it can
> be reallocated?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
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QUESTION ABOUT ICKDSF - ICK31505I

2010-12-14 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I received an alert on one of our volumes saying that there were 0 VIRS 
available.  I would like to increase the size of the SYS1SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 .
 
In order to fix the problem I tried to do the following :
BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) OSVTOC PURGE followed by a 
 
 /*  
//STEP2    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'  
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//VTOC DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=PROD09,DISP=(,KEEP),   
// DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09,SPACE=(TRK,75,,CONTIG)    
//SYSIN    DD  *    
  BUILDIX DDNAME(VTOC) IXVTOC   
/*  
//  
However, I received the error message on the first step. :
ICK01503I C772 REQUEST RECEIVED TO CONVERT VTOC TO OSFORMAT    
ICK31505I C772 VTOC FORMAT IS CURRENTLY OSFORMAT, REQUEST REJECTED 
ICK31515I C772 BUILDIX COMMAND FAILED. 

Is there a way to delete the SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD09 so that it can be reallocated?
 
Thanks in advance
 



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Re: WILDCARDS - IDCAMS ALTER COMMAND

2010-12-03 Thread esmie moo
Elardus & Lizette,
 
Thanks to both of you for your help.  I have learned something new today for 
which I am very greatful.
 
Thanks again.

--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Elardus Engelbrecht  wrote:


From: Elardus Engelbrecht 
Subject: Re: WILDCARDS - IDCAMS ALTER COMMAND
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esmie moo wrote:
>However, I am trying to ALTER the MANAGEMENT class and not trying to 
rename the dsn.  Do you have any information for that?


This will work (check the point before asterisk):

ALTER       IMSZ.ACBL.*         - 
               MANAGEMENTCLASS()       

This will NOT work as documented (your example):

ALTER       IMSZ.ACBL*         - 
               MANAGEMENTCLASS()       

For IDCAMS commands the asterisk cannot be part of a HLQ. 
This is documented.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: WILDCARDS - IDCAMS ALTER COMMAND

2010-12-03 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
Thanks very much for the info.  I never tried using the NEWNAME, which I will.
However, I am trying to ALTER the MANAGEMENT class and not trying to rename the 
dsn.  Do you have any information for that?

--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Lizette Koehler  wrote:


From: Lizette Koehler 
Subject: Re: WILDCARDS - IDCAMS ALTER COMMAND
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 1:49 AM


> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> 
> Has anybody been able to ALTER  the HLQ dsns of a MANAGEMENT class
> using wildcards for the IDCAMS command?  I am able to delete dsns using
> wildcards HLQs.
> 
> Here is my command that I am trying to issue:
> 
>  //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=4M
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD *
>  ALTER 'IMSZ.ACBL*' -
>         MGMTCLAS (NOMIG)
> /*
> I get the error message :
> IDC3203I ITEM 'IMSZ.ACBL*' DOES NOT ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS
> IDC3202I ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND. CONDITION CODE IS 12
> 
> Can wildcards be used when performing ALTER commands?
> 
> Thanks in advance.

If you goggle IDCAMS WILDCARDS, I came up with the following APAR from IBM

Using wildcards with IDCAMS ALTER NEWNAME
Technote (FAQ)

Question
Using wildcards with IDCAMS ALTER NEWNAME

User is attempting to change the HLQ (High Level Qualifier) on all datasets
starting with CICS to CICSA
CICS.SYSTEM
CICS.SYSTEM2
CICS.SYSTEM.PROD
CICS.SYSTEM.

Answer
Description:

            Using wildcards with IDCAMS ALTER NEWNAME

            User is attempting to change the HLQ (High Level Qualifier) on
all datasets starting with CICS to CICSA
            CICS.SYSTEM
            CICS.SYSTEM2
            CICS.SYSTEM.PROD
            CICS.SYSTEM.TEST

            Using the following ALTER job:

            //NEWNAME  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=4M                          
            //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=A                                      
            //SYSIN    DD   *                                            
                 ALTER CICS.* -                                          
                    NEWNAME(CICSA.*)                                      
               /*    

                                                                   
            The results are:

            CICSA.SYSTEM
            CICSA.SYSTEM2
            CICS.SYSTEM.PROD
            CICS.SYSTEM.TEST
            Only the datasets matching the level of qualification i.e 2 are
changed.



            Resolution:

            The generic in ALTER NEWNAME only replaces one qualifier not all
following qualifiers.

            To ALTER the 3 level qualified datasets the following could be
coded:

            ALTER CICS.SYSTEM.* -
            NEWNAME(CICSA.SYSTEM.*)

            The following will validly fail with :

            ALTER CICS.*.* -
            NEWNAME(CICSA.*.*)
            IDC3203I ITEM 'CICS.*.*' DOES NOT ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS

            A generic can be coded in the middle

            ALTER CICS.*.TEST -
            NEWNAME(CICSA.*.TEST1)

Does this answer your question?

Lizette

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WILDCARDS - IDCAMS ALTER COMMAND

2010-12-03 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
Has anybody been able to ALTER  the HLQ dsns of a MANAGEMENT class using 
wildcards for the IDCAMS command?  I am able to delete dsns using wildcards 
HLQs.
 
Here is my command that I am trying to issue:
 
 //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=4M 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSIN    DD *    
 ALTER 'IMSZ.ACBL*' -  
    MGMTCLAS (NOMIG)   
/* 
I get the error message :
IDC3203I ITEM 'IMSZ.ACBL*' DOES NOT ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS 
IDC3202I ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND. CONDITION CODE IS 12  
 
Can wildcards be used when performing ALTER commands?
 
Thanks in advance.




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Re: QUESTION ABOUT MIGRATION - AT DSN LEVEL

2010-11-16 Thread esmie moo
Since the STORAGE GROUP does not have AUTO MIGRATE, is there a way that I can 
migrate certain dsn HLQ based on reference date?  
 
For example HSEND MIGRATE DSN('XXX.YYY.ZZZ') DAYS(2)

--- On Wed, 11/17/10, esmie moo  wrote:


From: esmie moo 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 4:52 AM


Thanks David for your help. 

--- On Wed, 11/17/10, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]  
wrote:


From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage
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You got it. Migrate needs to be Y,I (Incremental) or P (Primary Space Mngt.)

Also check Q AC for the following: MIGRATION=NOT HELD, AUTOMIGRATION=NOT HELD 

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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From: esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:25 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Fw: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage

As a follow up to my earlier post I checked the storage group attributes and it 
shows the following

Auto Migrate . . N  (Y, N, I or P)
Auto Backup  . . Y  (Y or N)
Auto Dump  . . . Y  (Y or N)
Overflow . . . . N  (Y or N)

Could this be why the dsns are not being migrated?

Thanks for your help in advance.

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From: esmie moo 
Subject: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 4:14 AM


Good Morning Gentle Readers,

I am trying to understand why some dsns are not being migrated.  Here is the 
construct of the Management class:
Migration Attributes
  Primary Days Non-usage  . : 0
  Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 0
  Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH

Shouldn't these dsns be migrated directly from Level 0 to Level 2?  However, 
when I perform the HMIG command manually it does the migration.  Can someone 
spot my error.




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Re: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage

2010-11-16 Thread esmie moo
Thanks David for your help. 

--- On Wed, 11/17/10, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]  
wrote:


From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage
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You got it. Migrate needs to be Y,I (Incremental) or P (Primary Space Mngt.)

Also check Q AC for the following: MIGRATION=NOT HELD, AUTOMIGRATION=NOT HELD 

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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From: esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:25 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Fw: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage

As a follow up to my earlier post I checked the storage group attributes and it 
shows the following

Auto Migrate . . N  (Y, N, I or P)
Auto Backup  . . Y  (Y or N)
Auto Dump  . . . Y  (Y or N)
Overflow . . . . N  (Y or N)

Could this be why the dsns are not being migrated?

Thanks for your help in advance.

--- On Wed, 11/17/10, esmie moo  wrote:


From: esmie moo 
Subject: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 4:14 AM


Good Morning Gentle Readers,

I am trying to understand why some dsns are not being migrated.  Here is the 
construct of the Management class:
Migration Attributes
  Primary Days Non-usage  . : 0
  Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 0
  Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH

Shouldn't these dsns be migrated directly from Level 0 to Level 2?  However, 
when I perform the HMIG command manually it does the migration.  Can someone 
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Fw: QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage

2010-11-16 Thread esmie moo
As a follow up to my earlier post I checked the storage group attributes and it 
shows the following 
 
Auto Migrate . . N  (Y, N, I or P)
Auto Backup  . . Y  (Y or N)  
Auto Dump  . . . Y  (Y or N)  
Overflow . . . . N  (Y or N)  

Could this be why the dsns are not being migrated?
 
Thanks for your help in advance.

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Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to understand why some dsns are not being migrated.  Here is the 
construct of the Management class:
Migration Attributes   
  Primary Days Non-usage  . : 0    
  Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 0    
  Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH 

Shouldn't these dsns be migrated directly from Level 0 to Level 2?  However, 
when I perform the HMIG command manually it does the migration.  Can someone 
spot my error.
 



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QUESTION ABOUT Primary Days Non-usage

2010-11-16 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to understand why some dsns are not being migrated.  Here is the 
construct of the Management class:
Migration Attributes   
  Primary Days Non-usage  . : 0    
  Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 0    
  Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH 

Shouldn't these dsns be migrated directly from Level 0 to Level 2?  However, 
when I perform the HMIG command manually it does the migration.  Can someone 
spot my error.
 



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Re: CA-DISK QUESTION

2010-09-22 Thread esmie moo
Jeffrey,
 
Thanks very much for your help.  Thanks to all who responded to my post.  You 
all have been extremely helpful.

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Flag1 = 08 for a backup, A8 for an archive.

I've always had to list FLAG1 out in its binary format (FIELDS=FLAG1B) to
know if files are backups or archives as I have other odd ball combinations
of the bit math which are possible.  From the manual...

Byte # Binary Hex Meaning
First
1000  80 Data set was scratched at time of archival.
0100  40 Data set was uncataloged at time of archival.
0010  20 Data set was recataloged to CA Disk pseudovolume.
0001  10 Archived due to EXPLICIT request.
Note: If this bit is off, Archived by RETAIN
 1000 08 Data set was archived via EXCP support.
 0100 04 Archived with Incremental Backup
 0010 02 Data set is DSORG=DA RECFM=U/V, or is DSORG=PS RECFM=U/V and
was backed up as DA.
 0001 01 Data set resided on Virtual Volume

As for listing what is backup vs what is archive, good old sort works for
that.

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Re: CA-DISK QUESTION

2010-09-22 Thread esmie moo
Kees,
 
Your suggestion worked.  Thanks.  Now I have to find a way of just listing the 
A8.
 
Thanks.

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LSITD gives you all the datasets in the filesdataset: backups and archives. If 
you run "LISTD DUP,DSN=/" without the FIELDS parameter, you get the default 
report and the FLAGs at the right tell you if a dataset is a backup of an 
archive. Check the manuals.

Flag1 = 08 for a backup, A8 for an archive.

Kees.


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> John,
>  
> No, there is only 1 files dsn.  I tried the following :
>  LISTD FIELDS=(DSNAM,FLAG1B,DSORG,VOLNO,ATIME,ARCDT)
> and it listed all the dsns.  However it did show me some dsns that are 
> already on DASD which prompted my post.
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/22/10, John H Kington  wrote:
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> Received: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 11:54 PM
> 
> 
> Esmie,
> Do you have more than one files dataset? If so, use mfiles dd and concatenate 
> all of the files datasets.
> Regards,
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> 
> Jeffrey,
> 
> I tried your suggestion and it gave me only 2 dsns that are archived.  I 
> executed the job over again without the DUPLICATE parm and I got the same 
> result.  When I checked for my dsns and there are about 73 which are archived 
> and it showed just one.
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Jeffrey Deaver  wrote:
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> 
> Usually gets me what I need...
> 
> //LISTD    EXEC LISTD
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD *
> LISTD DUPLICATES,FIELDS=(DSNAM,VOLNO,ARCDT,ATIME,EXPDT,ARKEY)
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Re: CA-DISK QUESTION

2010-09-22 Thread esmie moo
John,
 
No, there is only 1 files dsn.  I tried the following :
 LISTD FIELDS=(DSNAM,FLAG1B,DSORG,VOLNO,ATIME,ARCDT)
and it listed all the dsns.  However it did show me some dsns that are already 
on DASD which prompted my post.

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Esmie,
Do you have more than one files dataset? If so, use mfiles dd and concatenate 
all of the files datasets.
Regards,
John
513-723-7527
john.king...@convergys.com

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Subject: Re: CA-DISK QUESTION

Jeffrey,

I tried your suggestion and it gave me only 2 dsns that are archived.  I 
executed the job over again without the DUPLICATE parm and I got the same 
result.  When I checked for my dsns and there are about 73 which are archived 
and it showed just one.

--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Jeffrey Deaver  wrote:


From: Jeffrey Deaver 
Subject: Re: CA-DISK QUESTION
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Received: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 6:15 AM


Usually gets me what I need...

//LISTD    EXEC LISTD
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN    DD *
LISTD DUPLICATES,FIELDS=(DSNAM,VOLNO,ARCDT,ATIME,EXPDT,ARKEY)

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Re: CA-DISK QUESTION

2010-09-22 Thread esmie moo
Jeffrey,
 
I tried your suggestion and it gave me only 2 dsns that are archived.  I 
executed the job over again without the DUPLICATE parm and I got the same 
result.  When I checked for my dsns and there are about 73 which are archived 
and it showed just one.

--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Jeffrey Deaver  wrote:


From: Jeffrey Deaver 
Subject: Re: CA-DISK QUESTION
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Usually gets me what I need...

//LISTD    EXEC LISTD
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN    DD *
LISTD DUPLICATES,FIELDS=(DSNAM,VOLNO,ARCDT,ATIME,EXPDT,ARKEY)

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CA-DISK QUESTION

2010-09-21 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
Is there a way of knowing what datasets are archived in the ARCHIVE Control 
file?  I have an auditor wanting to know what dsns have been archived.
 
Thanks.



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MOVING USER CATALOG

2010-07-12 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I need to move some USER CATS from a non-SMS volume to a SMS managed volume.
 
Besides modifying the SMS ACS SC routine is there anything else that I need to 
consider?
 
Below is my job which I will use to perform the move.
/* 
//BACKUP   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT) 
//DISK1    DD  DSN=SYS1.WHMS01.UCAT.BK01.CATJOB01, 
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(10,10),RLSE) 
//DISK2    DD  DSN=SYS1.WHMS01.UCAT.BK02.CATJOB01, 
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(10,10),RLSE) 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*    
//SYSIN    DD  *   
 ALTER WHMS01.UCAT LOCK    
 EXPORT WHMS01.UCAT OUTFILE(DISK1) TEMPORARY   
 EXPORT WHMS01.UCAT OUTFILE(DISK2) TEMPORARY   
/* 
//DELETE   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT) 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*    
//SYSIN    DD  *   
 DELETE WHMS01.UCAT RECOVERY USERCATALOG   
/* 
//DEFINE   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT) 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSIN    DD *    
 DEFINE    - 
 USERCATALOG   - 
 (NAME (WHMS01.UCAT) -   
 CYL(5) -    
 VOLUME(RPM001)    - 
 ICFCATALOG    - 
 STRNO(3)  - 
 FREESPACE(20 20)  - 
 NOIMBED   - 
 LOCK  - 
 SHAREOPTIONS(3 4))    - 
 DATA( - 
  CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096)) 
 /*  
 //IMPORT   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT)  
 //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
 //SYSIN    DD  *    
  IMPORT IDS(SYS1.WHMS01.UCAT.BK01.CATJOB01) -   
 ODS(WHMS01.UCAT) -  
 ALIAS - 
 LOCK -    
 INTOEMPTY 
 /*    
 //DIAGNOSE EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT)    
 //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
 //DIAGDD   DD  DSN=WHMS01.UCAT,DISP=SHR   
 //SYSIN    DD  *  
  DIAGNOSE ICFCATALOG INFILE(DIAGDD)   
  EXAMINE NAME(WHMS01.UCAT) -  
  ITEST NODATATEST ERRORLIMIT(1000)    
  EXAMINE NAME(WHMS01.UCAT) -  
 NOITEST DATATEST ERRORLIMIT(1000) 
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PRTVTOC QUESTION

2010-06-29 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I use PRTVTOC to get a quick view of our volumes.  I issue the following 
command (via TSO) - PRTVTOC V(*) SP which gives me a summary list of volumes 
and the space used/allocated etc.  
My problem is that I would like to exclude some volumes from this list.  I 
tried several commands but I was either getting a syntax error or it didn't 
recognise the exclude parm.
I GOOGLED PRTVTOC however I found a few sites but it was for the UNIX/LINUX 
environments.  Can someone suggest something I could try?  
 
Thanks in advance.



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Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM

2010-06-23 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
I checked there were no IGD messages.  I did a double check, none of the 
volumes in that group are SMS or CA-ALLOCATE managed.

--- On Thu, 6/24/10, Lizette Koehler  wrote:


From: Lizette Koehler 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:53 AM


Is DFSMS doing this?  Do you use an ACS code that might change the location of 
the volume?  Look for IGD messages in the job messages section after the JCL.

Lizette




>
>Mike,
> 
>Thanks for clearing this up.  I looked at the job which created the dsns but 
>there was no SVM* messages displayed.  I ran a test and when I increased the 
>size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed.  My question is what 
>rule is bypassing the allocation.  I verified my jcl and I do not have any 
>parms to bypass the volser.
>
>--- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>From: Spencer, Mike 
>Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM
>
>
>StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate.  Two different vendors.  Please post facts, not 
>postulates.  
>
>You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users 
>job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being 
>involved.  
>Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the 
>statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY.  The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a 
>holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact 
>Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of 
>IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD.   
>
>In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been 
>changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* 
>whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action.    
>
>Mike Spencer
>BMC Software
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
>Mark Steely
>Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
>
>Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the 
>started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE 
>IS.   This will display the library with all the routines that are getting 
>executed. The answer should be there. 
>
>Thank You 
>
>-Original Message-
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>esmie moo
>Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
>
>Good Morning Gentle Readers,
> 
>I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37.  The 
>user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER.  For some reason 
>the dsn is being allocated on another volume.  The environment does NOT have 
>SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my 
>suspicion.  If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at 
>the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib.  
> 
>Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM

2010-06-23 Thread esmie moo
Mike,
 
Thanks for clearing this up.  I looked at the job which created the dsns but 
there was no SVM* messages displayed.  I ran a test and when I increased the 
size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed.  My question is what 
rule is bypassing the allocation.  I verified my jcl and I do not have any 
parms to bypass the volser.

--- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike  wrote:


From: Spencer, Mike 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM


StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate.  Two different vendors.  Please post facts, not 
postulates.  

You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job 
to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved.  
Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the 
statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY.  The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a 
holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact 
Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of 
IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD.   

In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been 
changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* 
whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action.    

Mike Spencer
BMC Software


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Mark Steely
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM

Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the 
started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE 
IS.   This will display the library with all the routines that are getting 
executed. The answer should be there. 

Thank You 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
esmie moo
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37.  The 
user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER.  For some reason the 
dsn is being allocated on another volume.  The environment does NOT have SMS or 
CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my 
suspicion.  If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at 
the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib.  
 
Thanks in advance.



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QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM

2010-06-23 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37.  The 
user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER.  For some reason the 
dsn is being allocated on another volume.  The environment does NOT have SMS or 
CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my 
suspicion.  If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at 
the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib.  
 
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Re: SMS QUESTION

2010-05-21 Thread esmie moo
Michael,
 
Thank you.  No, there is no plans to have DFHSM in this partition.  The client 
is satisfied with CA-ALLOCATE/CA-DISK.
 
Thanks.

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Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION
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Received: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 4:42 AM


You might want to consider the management class activity if there is a 
possibility the data/application could move to a lpar with DFHSM.  If that's 
unlikely, then it's not necessary.



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Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am in the processing of allocating a SC & SG for several new aliases in SMS.  
The user doesn't want this particular STORAGE GROUP to have migration.  This 
sounds okay however since there is no DFHSM in this partition is it necessary 
to pay particular attention or modify the MANAGEMENT class CONSTRUCT & ACS 
routines?  The archiving tool in this partitioin is CA-DISK.
 
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SMS QUESTION

2010-05-21 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am in the processing of allocating a SC & SG for several new aliases in SMS.  
The user doesn't want this particular STORAGE GROUP to have migration.  This 
sounds okay however since there is no DFHSM in this partition is it necessary 
to pay particular attention or modify the MANAGEMENT class CONSTRUCT & ACS 
routines?  The archiving tool in this partitioin is CA-DISK.
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MOVING TO DASD FROM TAPE - ML2

2010-04-21 Thread esmie moo
Ron,
 
You mentioned compression.  Please correct me if I am wrong.  All the dsns on 
ML1 are  compressed?
 
Thanks.

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Ron Hawkins  wrote:


From: Ron Hawkins 
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MOVING TO DASD FROM TAPE - ML2
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Darth,

The ML1 and ML2 are usually cheaper and lower performance than Primary
Storage. ML1 cost efficiency is usually achieved through compression,
whereas ML2 is a change in media.

ML2 Tape can easily be replaced with Tier 2 disk using internal SATA,
external virtualized midrange storage, or earlier generations of DASD disk
systems with a reduced maintenance cost (I think Radoslaw did this with
7700E).

Ron



> 
> 
> If I understand this correctly, you're going to have 2 levels of migration
> both on Disk?  Even if that's possible, what does it gain you?  Wouldn't
> it make more sense to just have an ML1 and then no ML2? And again, I
> question whether that's even possible with HSM.
> 
> I do seem to remember this same discussion in the past, so you should
> probably check out the archives.  We're actually going the other route -
> we're moving to a 'tapeless' virtual tape system & I'm eliminating ML1.
> 
> ddk
> 

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MOVING TO DASD FROM TAPE - ML2

2010-04-19 Thread esmie moo
Darth,
 
Yes, we are aiming to maintain both levels of migration.  Is this doable?

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Darth Keller  wrote:


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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MOVING TO DASD FROM TAPE - ML2
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>>Because of incessant problems with tapes (3590-1) we are looking at 
using DASD for ML2 migration as well as BACKUP.  Besides changing the 
following >>commands is there something else I could have overlooked?
>>If anybody has been down this road I would appreciate it if you could 
warn me of any potential problems that you have encountered.


If I understand this correctly, you're going to have 2 levels of migration 
both on Disk?  Even if that's possible, what does it gain you?  Wouldn't 
it make more sense to just have an ML1 and then no ML2? And again, I 
question whether that's even possible with HSM. 

I do seem to remember this same discussion in the past, so you should 
probably check out the archives.  We're actually going the other route - 
we're moving to a 'tapeless' virtual tape system & I'm eliminating ML1.

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DFHSM QUESTION - MOVING TO DASD FROM TAPE - ML2

2010-04-19 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
Because of incessant problems with tapes (3590-1) we are looking at using DASD 
for ML2 migration as well as BACKUP.  Besides changing the following commands 
is there something else I could have overlooked?
 
SETSYS ARECOVERUNITNAME(3590-1) 

SETSYS ARECOVERML2UNIT(3590-1)  

TAPEMIGRATION(ML2TAPE(TAPE(A19840C)) RECONNECT(ALL)) 
MIGUNITNAME(A19840C) 

SETSYS BACKUP(TAPE(A19840C))
RIDF(BACKUP(1)) -   
UNITNAME(A19840C) - 

SETSYS DSBACKUP (DASDSELECTIONSIZE(0 0) TAPE(TASKS(2)
 
If anybody has been down this road I would appreciate it if you could warn me 
of any potential problems that you have encountered.
 
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Re: JCL QUESTION

2010-04-07 Thread esmie moo
Sorry I made a typo.  It should read as : I have changed the jcl.  

--- On Thu, 4/8/10, esmie moo  wrote:


From: esmie moo 
Subject: Re: JCL QUESTION
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Howard,
 
The STEP1 (first step) was performing an IEFBR14.  It is trying to delete the 
dsn:
 
//DELFILE  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14    
//DD1  DD DSN=CICS2.SYSB.LISTCAT,DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE) 

The second step (STEP2) was trying to create the same dsn using IDCAMS:
//LSYSBCAT EXEC PGM=IDCAMS    
//SYSPRINT DD DSN=CICS2.SYSB.LISTCAT,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),    
// DCB=(RECFM=VBA,LRECL=125,BLKSIZE=3750),    
// SPACE=(TRK,(10,1),RLSE)    

I tried the suggestions that were made and it worked.  I have not changed the 
jcl in STEP1 to read as :DISP=(MOD,DELETE),SPACE=(1,0)

Thanks.

--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Howard Brazee  wrote:


From: Howard Brazee 
Subject: Re: JCL QUESTION
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Received: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:34 AM


On 7 Apr 2010 06:51:15 -0700, esmie_...@yahoo.ca (esmie moo) wrote:

>I have a problem with a batch job which keeps failing on a JCL error.  The 
>first step deletes the dsn 
>and the second step recreates the dsn using PGM=IDCAMS. Is there a way of 
>having the job continue 
>to execute STEP2 even though it posts a jcl error (dsn not found) in STEP1.  
>I looked at using COND=EVEN but it doesn't work because the job did not abend 
>to meet the condition. 
> 
>Is there another way of going about having the job continue to STEP2 
>eventhough STEP1 has a jcl error?

Does the first job abend because it is not finding the file?   How are
you deleting it?

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Re: JCL QUESTION

2010-04-07 Thread esmie moo
Howard,
 
The STEP1 (first step) was performing an IEFBR14.  It is trying to delete the 
dsn:
 
//DELFILE  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14    
//DD1  DD DSN=CICS2.SYSB.LISTCAT,DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE) 

The second step (STEP2) was trying to create the same dsn using IDCAMS:
//LSYSBCAT EXEC PGM=IDCAMS    
//SYSPRINT DD DSN=CICS2.SYSB.LISTCAT,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),    
// DCB=(RECFM=VBA,LRECL=125,BLKSIZE=3750),    
// SPACE=(TRK,(10,1),RLSE)    

I tried the suggestions that were made and it worked.  I have not changed the 
jcl in STEP1 to read as :DISP=(MOD,DELETE),SPACE=(1,0)

Thanks.

--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Howard Brazee  wrote:


From: Howard Brazee 
Subject: Re: JCL QUESTION
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:34 AM


On 7 Apr 2010 06:51:15 -0700, esmie_...@yahoo.ca (esmie moo) wrote:

>I have a problem with a batch job which keeps failing on a JCL error.  The 
>first step deletes the dsn 
>and the second step recreates the dsn using PGM=IDCAMS. Is there a way of 
>having the job continue 
>to execute STEP2 even though it posts a jcl error (dsn not found) in STEP1.  
>I looked at using COND=EVEN but it doesn't work because the job did not abend 
>to meet the condition. 
> 
>Is there another way of going about having the job continue to STEP2 
>eventhough STEP1 has a jcl error?

Does the first job abend because it is not finding the file?   How are
you deleting it?

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Re: JCL QUESTION

2010-04-07 Thread esmie moo
Gentle Contributers,
 
I tested both suggestions and it worked.  Thanks to all who have helped me with 
their suggestions.

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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:50:55 -0700, esmie moo wrote:
> 
>I have a problem with a batch job which keeps failing on a JCL error.  The 
>first step deletes the dsn and the second step recreates the dsn using 
>PGM=IDCAMS. Is there a way of having the job continue to execute STEP2 even 
>though it posts a jcl error (dsn not found) in STEP1.  I looked at using 
>COND=EVEN but it doesn't work because the job did not abend to meet the 
>condition. 
> 
>Is there another way of going about having the job continue to STEP2 
>eventhough STEP1 has a jcl error?
> 
Use DISP=(MOD,DELETE),SPACE=(1,0),UNIT=SYSALLDA in STEP1 and
no JCL error should occur.  (Untested.)

-- gil

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JCL QUESTION

2010-04-07 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I have a problem with a batch job which keeps failing on a JCL error.  The 
first step deletes the dsn and the second step recreates the dsn using 
PGM=IDCAMS. Is there a way of having the job continue to execute STEP2 even 
though it posts a jcl error (dsn not found) in STEP1.  I looked at using 
COND=EVEN but it doesn't work because the job did not abend to meet the 
condition. 
 
Is there another way of going about having the job continue to STEP2 eventhough 
STEP1 has a jcl error?
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION -ARC0022I DFSMSHSM LOG RENAME ERROR

2010-02-10 Thread esmie moo
Thanks Walter.

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From: Walter Marguccio 
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION -ARC0022I DFSMSHSM LOG RENAME ERROR
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> If I am right,  do I need to delete either HSMLOG*C file and recrea


> If I am right,  do I need to delete either HSMLOG*C file and recreate on the 
> same volume as the other?

You are right.

Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany




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