Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/28/2008 at 04:02 PM, David Eisenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm an application programmer. We are on z/OS 1.7. If I wish to see the system ENQ status of all ENQs for a given major name, I do this within ISRDDN, option ENQ. I filter on the major name prefix, and I see all the ENQs; voila. However, if the *entire* minor name doesn't fit on the screen, it seems that ISRDDN doesn't permit scrolling to show the remainder of the minor name. What happens if you log on with a wider screen size? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) It displays the Type, G, R, and Sys Name columns, but the Minor column width stays the same. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
Peter, The ISPF QUERYENQ service also truncates, if I counted correctly, at 62 characters. For those who have lost track of what tools can do what, so far only MXI G2 displays the whole rname. Thanks Rob. Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Van Dyke Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource? Another option would be to use the ISPF QUERYENQ service. Regards, Peter ISPF Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/28/2008 at 04:02 PM, David Eisenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm an application programmer. We are on z/OS 1.7. If I wish to see the system ENQ status of all ENQs for a given major name, I do this within ISRDDN, option ENQ. I filter on the major name prefix, and I see all the ENQs; voila. However, if the *entire* minor name doesn't fit on the screen, it seems that ISRDDN doesn't permit scrolling to show the remainder of the minor name. What happens if you log on with a wider screen size? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:02 -0500, David Eisenberg wrote: I can't seem to find a way to simply view view any/all existing ENQs that show the complete minor names. Is there a way I can do this? Is there a way *YOU* (as an application programmer) can do it - tough question ???. There are no doubt tools on the cbt - they aren't that hard to write. Simplest answer is to use a D GRS,RES=... (operator) command - although I have been berated in the past by another on this list for suggesting such a thing is even possible for a non-sysprog. In any shop with my hand on the tiller, I would need persuasive evidence to restrict such a display command. It is certainly the most efficient means of determining ENQs from my cursory inspection (on a GRS ring). Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
Is there a way *YOU* (as an application programmer) can do it Of course I can, if I have to. The ISGQUERY macro provides all the info I need. My point was that the precise tool that I need is already available in ISRDDN, but unfortunately, the piece of the rname that I need to see is just beyond the end of the display, and the display isn't scrollable. I was wondering if anyone knows of another utility that would do the job. David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Eisenberg Anyone, I'm an application programmer. We are on z/OS 1.7. If I wish to see the system ENQ status of all ENQs for a given major name, I do this within ISRDDN, option ENQ. I filter on the major name prefix, and I see all the ENQs; voila. However, if the *entire* minor name doesn't fit on the screen, it seems that ISRDDN doesn't permit scrolling to show the remainder of the minor name. I'm told that there are other resources that can show ENQs which are in contention, but the resources I'm trying to see are not in contention. I can't seem to find a way to simply view view any/all existing ENQs that show the complete minor names. Is there a way I can do this? Thanks so much! TASID, a free tool maintained by ISPF Development, is probably the simplest utility to do that (and more). Ask your sysprogs to download and install it, and let you use it. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=17context=SSBLLDdc=D400ui d=swg24009131loc=en_UScs=UTF-8lang=en Or http://preview.tinyurl.com/bftw8 -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
Of course I forgot that ISPF has its own ENQ display. To find an enq I try to RENAME the file under 3.4. This usually gets an exclusive ENQ and by hitting the PF1 (HELP) key, I can usually see who else has the resource. Lizette [] -- Snip Are you looking for tools strictly under TSO? Or could you use a monitor tool like TMON, Omegamon (Tivoli), etc? Of course there is always the MVS Command D GRS,RES=(*,dsname) or D GRS,C Lizette My point was that the precise tool that I need is already available in ISRDDN, but unfortunately, the piece of the rname that I need to see is just beyond the end of the display, and the display isn't scrollable. I was wondering if anyone knows of another utility that would do the job. [] -- UnSnip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
John, TASID and ISRDDN share the same code base. David's problem will be the same under TASID. After looking, MXI truncates the entry after 52 characters, TASID and ISRDDN after 51 characters. Not sure what SHOWMVS displays. Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource? Snippage TASID, a free tool maintained by ISPF Development, is probably the simplest utility to do that (and more). Ask your sysprogs to download and install it, and let you use it. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=17context=SSBLLDdc=D400ui d=swg24009131loc=en_UScs=UTF-8lang=en Or http://preview.tinyurl.com/bftw8 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
MXI 4.3 uses 52 character because I wanted to be able to cater for a 44-byte dsname and 8-byte member name and as its screen width was limited to 80-bytes that was the maximum I could go to if I wanted the other information on the screen as well (jobname, sysname etc). Obviously these restrictions are something that I removed in MXI G2 which can show the full Rname. It is worth noting that D GRS,RES= truncates the Rname at 50 bytes (you get a T character on the far right to indicate that truncation has taken place) and I could not find any way of getting the full rname listed using the operator command. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: 29 May 2008 14:23 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource? John, TASID and ISRDDN share the same code base. David's problem will be the same under TASID. After looking, MXI truncates the entry after 52 characters, TASID and ISRDDN after 51 characters. Not sure what SHOWMVS displays. Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource? Snippage TASID, a free tool maintained by ISPF Development, is probably the simplest utility to do that (and more). Ask your sysprogs to download and install it, and let you use it. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=17context=SSBLLDdc=D400ui d=swg24009131loc=en_UScs=UTF-8lang=en Or http://preview.tinyurl.com/bftw8 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
Did you try the following (I saw this at an earlier post) 1. Go into ISPF 3.4 2. At the side of the dsn type the command ISRDDN E 3. It will give you the name of the job or TSO userid which has enq on the dsn. David Eisenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone, I'm an application programmer. We are on z/OS 1.7. If I wish to see the system ENQ status of all ENQs for a given major name, I do this within ISRDDN, option ENQ. I filter on the major name prefix, and I see all the ENQs; voila. However, if the *entire* minor name doesn't fit on the screen, it seems that ISRDDN doesn't permit scrolling to show the remainder of the minor name. I'm told that there are other resources that can show ENQs which are in contention, but the resources I'm trying to see are not in contention. I can't seem to find a way to simply view view any/all existing ENQs that show the complete minor names. Is there a way I can do this? Thanks so much! David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
At the side of the dsn type the command ISRDDN E It's not a dataset that has the enqueue. It's an application program (CA's PanAPT) that has done an ENQ on a resource with an 84-byte minor name, and I need to see the entire rname to know who has the enqueue. I've coded my way out of this by using the ISGQUERY macro. Thanks, everyone. David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
Hi David, I have used the 'Display GDIF' command of the Computer Associates Multi- Image Integrity ( CA-MII ) product to display the parts of the ENQ Resource Name that other display commands don't display. For example: F mii,D GDIF,ENQR=(SYSVSAM,PREFIX=rname) Check the Unicenter CA-MIM Statement and Command Reference manual for the total syntax of the command. The console output would look similar to the following: QNAME RNAMERequestor Typ SYSVSAM P9SP.ATR.RRSTSTB.DELAYED.UR.TEST S=TSTB HOLDS EXCL PLEX.DATACATALOG.PROD1 O HTH Glenn Miller -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
Another option would be to use the ISPF QUERYENQ service. Regards, Peter ISPF Development David Eisenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] NLINE.NET To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource? 30/05/2008 01:32 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU At the side of the dsn type the command ISRDDN E It's not a dataset that has the enqueue. It's an application program (CA's PanAPT) that has done an ENQ on a resource with an 84-byte minor name, and I need to see the entire rname to know who has the enqueue. I've coded my way out of this by using the ISGQUERY macro. Thanks, everyone. David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Can ISRDDN show the complete minor name of an ENQ'd resource?
Anyone, I'm an application programmer. We are on z/OS 1.7. If I wish to see the system ENQ status of all ENQs for a given major name, I do this within ISRDDN, option ENQ. I filter on the major name prefix, and I see all the ENQs; voila. However, if the *entire* minor name doesn't fit on the screen, it seems that ISRDDN doesn't permit scrolling to show the remainder of the minor name. I'm told that there are other resources that can show ENQs which are in contention, but the resources I'm trying to see are not in contention. I can't seem to find a way to simply view view any/all existing ENQs that show the complete minor names. Is there a way I can do this? Thanks so much! David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
