Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo


I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is a 
spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
 
Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is that 
SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to volume 
PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is what I get:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE 
(041A041D)

I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt failed 
because of :
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
Here is my jcl:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  
DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,   
 
//*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

Can someone suggest what I could try.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Don Imbriale
The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSINDD *
 DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
   OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*
 //

 Can someone suggest what I could try.



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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Don,
 
I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1    DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSIN    DD *
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
          BYPASSACS(**) -
          STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
          OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*
 //

 Can someone suggest what I could try.



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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Greg Shirey
It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSINDD *
DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
  BYPASSACS(**) -
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*


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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES  and
5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE

It appears that your storage group, ISTINT1, does not have enough space to 
accommodate your allocation.   If someone called me 
in regards to this issue, I'd ask why they weren't directing this to tape. 
 If it had to go to disk for some reason,  I'd look at the 
pool - possibly change the primary  2ndary allocations  allow it to go 
multi-volume.

I'd also consider adding another volume to the SG as a last resort.
ddk








TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY 
SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR 
QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT 
SPACE (04


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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
So I think the original poster wanted to go to a non-SMS volume - which I 
forgot when posting my 
last response.

He's going to need to talk to someone who know the SMS routines in his 
shop.  In my shop, I have 
a StorClas which can be used to push a normally SMS controlled DS outside 
of SMS  when specified
by an authorized user.   Authorized users are generally people in Tech 
Svcs.

ddk



///
THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES  and
5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE

It appears that your storage group, ISTINT1, does not have enough space to 

accommodate your allocation.   If someone called me 
in regards to this issue, I'd ask why they weren't directing this to tape. 

 If it had to go to disk for some reason,  I'd look at the 
pool - possibly change the primary  2ndary allocations  allow it to go 
multi-volume.

I'd also consider adding another volume to the SG as a last resort.
ddk



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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie 
moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1    DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSIN    DD *
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
          BYPASSACS(**) -
          STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
          OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
 /*


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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
 I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however 

 for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN

if hlq ZWAXPG is 'trapped' by SMS, it means that your SMS ACS routines 

are coded in order to assign a SC and a SG (ISTINT1) to datasets whose hlq is 
ZWAXPG.

Which doesn't mean it is bad. 

The problem which you seem to have here is that SG ISTINT1, which has 5 
volumes, is not
able to allocate 1055 Cyls as primary space. 

Can you try to reduce the primary space with a smaller value ?
Can you try to allocate the dataset with another SMS-owned hlq which will 
choose a 

bigger SG ?


 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Esmee,

Are you positively, absolutely sure that volume VE6C01 is non-SMS managed?  How 
much space is on the volume?

Can you post an updated JCL stream with the SYS1. output dataset along with 
the messages, being that there were a couple errors that you have fixed.

Rex



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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Greg,

I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) -
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie 
moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSINDD *
DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
  BYPASSACS(**) -
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:02:37 -0700, esmie moo wrote:

Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


Replace STORCLAS(NONSMS) with NSC NMC

Norbert Friemel

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Rowe
Esmie,

Those control cards are input to DSS, and have absolutely nothing to do with
the allocation of TAPE1, which is in JCL.  By the time DSS reads the control
cards, the allocation of the datasets defined in JCL is already complete.
Those keywords in DSS control statements are used for dynamic allocation of
datasets in COPY operations, and are not valid for DUMP.

 If you want TAPE1 to be non-SMS, then there must be something on the JCL
statement that tells the SMS STORCLAS routine to assign a null STORCLAS to
the allocation.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Greg,

 I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in
 the job:
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


 From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your
 email.
 NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

 Greg Shirey
 Ben E. Keith Company

 
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
 esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 Don,

 I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using
 both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1
 DSN
 ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (04

 SYS1 ATTEMPT:

 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VO
 IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

 From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
 DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

 - Don Imbriale

 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 
 
  I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which
 is
  a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
 
  Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
  From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
  Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
 
  Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
  I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
  that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
  volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
  what I get:
  IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
  SYSTEM ERR
  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
  SET
 
  ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
  IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
  QUIESCED
  IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
  1
  WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
  SELECTION.
  THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
  WERE:ISTINT1
  IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
  SPACE (041A041D)
 
  I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
  failed because of :
  ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
  2011
  IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
  MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
  Here is my jcl:
 
  //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
  //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
  //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
  //DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
  //TAPE1DD
  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
  //*TAPE1DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
  //DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
  //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
  //DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
  //SYSINDD *
 DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
   OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
  /*
 

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I am surprised dfdss is not objecting to the use of BYPASSACS and 
STORCLAS in that context.  My manuals (z/OS 1.10) don't show those as 
valid parameters for a DUMP command.  They normally apply to placement 
of target datasets of a RESTORE or COPY, not to placement of a dfdss 
dump dataset from DUMP.


The installation ACS routines must be written with hooks in order for 
a DASD Administrator to twiddle JCL allocation parameters to force 
allocation to a specific SMS volume, some volser naming convention for 
volumes that are excluded from SMS, some dataset naming convention for 
datasets that are excluded from SMS control, etc.  Only your local SMS 
Administrator would know what these are and usually their usage would be 
restricted in some way.  Without obtaining that unique information about 
your installation, you are unlikely to stumble on the method.


An alternative might be to just accept SMS control of your dump output 
dataset and use a smaller primary space but multiple volumes so you are 
not trying to find all that space on a single volume.  Whether that is 
acceptable to your installation may depend on local recommendations 
about sizes of files that should be placed in various SMS pools.  Adding 
the COMPRESS option to your DUMP command may also shrink the size of 
the dump dataset by a factor of 2 or 3 depending on the nature of the 
data on the volume, but that will also cost some additional CPU for the 
compression.

  Joel C. Ewing

On 08/11/2011 09:02 AM, esmie moo wrote:

Greg,

I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


From: Greg Shireywgshi...@benekeith.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie 
moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbrialedon.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie mooesmie_...@yahoo.ca  wrote:




I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
From: esmie mooesmie_...@yahoo.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,

I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
what I get:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
SET

ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
SPACE (041A041D)

I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
failed because of :
ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
2011
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

Here is my jcl:

//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
//DASD1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
//TAPE1DD
DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Norbert,
 
I received the same error messages.  SMS is still trying to trap it.:
 
ICH70001I ZWAXPG   LAST ACCESS AT 10:18:27 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 2011 
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET   
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4  
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED  
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1    
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. 
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1   
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 
 
I tried with using the output tape dsn as SYS1 but I got the error:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE 


 
 Here is my job:
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  BYPASSSMS(**) -   
  BYPASSACS(**) -   
  NULLSTORCLAS  -   
  NULLMGMTCLAS -    
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  
//  

 Here's the VTOC of the output volume:
 Device    Volume    Nbr   Free   - Largest -    Nbr    Nbr   
Nbr  Type Status   Serial    Cyl Cyl   Track    Cyl Track    Ext   Users  
  
6C01 3390 Private  VE6C01  10017   10012   0  10012 0  1  0   


From: Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13:50 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:02:37 -0700, esmie moo wrote:

Greg,
 
I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
  BYPASSACS(**) - 
  STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  


Replace STORCLAS(NONSMS) with NSC NMC

Norbert Friemel

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Walter,
I need to write the output to a NON-SMS volume because it (volume) will be 
accessed by a test system which has different SMS rules.

From: Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:08:20 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however 

 for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN

if hlq ZWAXPG is 'trapped' by SMS, it means that your SMS ACS routines 

are coded in order to assign a SC and a SG (ISTINT1) to datasets whose hlq is 
ZWAXPG.

Which doesn't mean it is bad. 

The problem which you seem to have here is that SG ISTINT1, which has 5 
volumes, is not
able to allocate 1055 Cyls as primary space. 

Can you try to reduce the primary space with a smaller value ?
Can you try to allocate the dataset with another SMS-owned hlq which will 
choose a 

bigger SG ?


 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Scott,
 
Thanks for pointing that out.  You could be right.  I will look around for a 
jcl to by STORCLAS. 

From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:35:59 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmie,

Those control cards are input to DSS, and have absolutely nothing to do with
the allocation of TAPE1, which is in JCL.  By the time DSS reads the control
cards, the allocation of the datasets defined in JCL is already complete.
Those keywords in DSS control statements are used for dynamic allocation of
datasets in COPY operations, and are not valid for DUMP.

If you want TAPE1 to be non-SMS, then there must be something on the JCL
statement that tells the SMS STORCLAS routine to assign a null STORCLAS to
the allocation.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Greg,

 I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in
 the job:
      BYPASSACS(**) -
      STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


 From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your
 email.
 NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

 Greg Shirey
 Ben E. Keith Company

 
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
 esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 Don,

 I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using
 both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1
 DSN
 ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (04

 SYS1 ATTEMPT:

 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VO
 IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

 From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
 Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
 DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

 - Don Imbriale

 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 
 
  I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which
 is
  a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.
 
  Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
  From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
  Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS
 
  Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
  I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
  that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
  volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
  what I get:
  IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
  SYSTEM ERR
  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
  SET
 
  ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
  IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
  QUIESCED
  IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
  1
  WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
  SELECTION.
  THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
  WERE:ISTINT1
  IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
  SPACE (041A041D)
 
  I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
  failed because of :
  ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
  2011
  IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
  MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
 
  Here is my jcl:
 
  //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
  //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
  //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
  //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
  //TAPE1    DD
  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
  //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
  //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
  //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
  //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
  //SYSIN    DD *
     DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
           BYPASSACS(**) -
           STORCLAS(NONSMS) -
           OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
  /*
 

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Rex,
 
Yes, I ensured that it was non-SMS.  Here is the VTOC:
  Device    Volume    Nbr   Free   - Largest -    Nbr    Nbr    
 Nbr  Type Status   Serial    Cyl Cyl   Track    Cyl Track    Ext   Users   
    
 6C01 3390 Private  VE6C01  10017   10012   0  10012 0  1  0    
    
    1 volumes - Total   10017   10012   0   


From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13:12 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Are you positively, absolutely sure that volume VE6C01 is non-SMS managed?  How 
much space is on the volume?

Can you post an updated JCL stream with the SYS1. output dataset along with 
the messages, being that there were a couple errors that you have fixed.

Rex



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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:03 AM
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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Greg,

I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the 
job:
      BYPASSACS(**) -
      STORCLAS(NONSMS) -


From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:46:38 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

It looks like IEF343I is your answer - some of which was truncated on your 
email.
NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Don,

I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both 
HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN
ZWAXPG ATTEMPT:
IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY SYSTEM ERR
IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET
ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:ISTINT1
IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (04

SYS1 ATTEMPT:

IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement
DASD1.  Might that be part of the problem?

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is
 a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.

 Please excuse my error.  Thanks.
 From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM
 Subject: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

 Good Morning Gentle Readers,

 I am trying to perform a Physical volume backup to disk.  My problem is
 that SMS is trapping my output dsn - which I am attempting to direct to
 volume PROM04 - and is allocating it in a certain storage group.  Here is
 what I get:
 IEF344I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY
 SYSTEM ERR
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA
 SET

 ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4
 IGD17277I THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (5) ARE ENABLED OR
 QUIESCED
 IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST
 1
 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME
 SELECTION.
 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS
 WERE:ISTINT1
 IGD17279I 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
 SPACE (041A041D)

 I tried using SYS1.BKUP.SHRPP4 for the output dsn however this attempt
 failed because of :
 ICH70001I ZWAXPG  LAST ACCESS AT 07:15:17 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 11,
 2011
 IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM
 MANAGED VOLUMES ELIGIBLE

 Here is my jcl:

 //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
 //*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
 //DASD1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PROM04,DISP=SHR
 //TAPE1    DD
 DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
 //*TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.BKUP.PROM04
 //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
 //        UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
 //        DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
 //SYSIN    DD *
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing

On 08/11/2011 09:52 AM, esmie moo wrote:

Norbert,

...


  Here is my job:
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES'
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
//DISK1DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR
//TAPE1DD  DSN=ZWAXPG.BKUP.SHRPP4,
//DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
//UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE),
//DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP
//SYSINDD *
 DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -
   BYPASSSMS(**) -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   NULLSTORCLAS  -
   NULLMGMTCLAS -
   OUTDDNAME(TAPE1))
/*
//

...
And, forgot to mention:
TRTCH is not relevant to a DASD dataset and BLKSIZE should not be 
specified unless you manually calculate what would give two blocks per 
track --  forcing  blksize 32760 on a 3390 means you will throw away 
about 40% of the useful space on each track and correspondingly increase 
the number of tracks required for the dump dataset.

--
Joel C. Ewing,Bentonville, AR   jcew...@acm.org 

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Esmee,

Try coding STORCLAS=storage-class-name which in your case would be 
storclas=nonsms

See JCL Reference Chap 12 DD Statement for more details

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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From: Darth Keller [mailto:darth.kel...@assurant.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
I am trying to track him down.  I looked at the SMS rules and there is a 
non-SMS storage class called STORCLAS=NONSMS in the ACS.



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Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
David,
 
I gave that a try however I got the same problem :
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

Here is my JCL:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.TEST4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    STORCLAS=NONSMS,  
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  

I noticed that the NONSMS STORCLAS does not have a FILTLIST.  Maybe this could 
be the problem.  

From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:09:24 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Try coding STORCLAS=storage-class-name which in your case would be 
storclas=nonsms

See JCL Reference Chap 12 DD Statement for more details

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor

-Original Message-
From: Darth Keller [mailto:darth.kel...@assurant.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
At this point you really need to resolve this with your storage admin person. 
There is no way for us to determine if the storclass ACS routine is properly 
written.

If it's my shop, I would put in the following at or near the top of the 
Storclass ACS routine:

WHEN (DSN EQ 'fully.qualified.dsn')   
  DO /* GIVE esmee OPTION OF DIRECTINg  */
SET STORCLAS = '' /* ALLOW ALLOCATION TO ve6c01   */  
EXIT 
  END 

Inelegant but it will work. 
  

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor


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From: esmie moo [mailto:esmie_...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

David,
 
I gave that a try however I got the same problem :
 
IEF343I DFDSS22 BACKUP TAPE1 - REQUEST FAILED - NOT ENOUGH NON-SYSTEM MANAGED 
VOLUMES ELIGIBLE
IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 

Here is my JCL:
 
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
//*STEP01    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*    
//DISK1    DD  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=SYS1.TEST4,  
//    DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), 
//    UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VE6C01,SPACE=(CYL,(1055,20),RLSE), 
//    STORCLAS=NONSMS,  
//    DCB=BLKSIZE=32760,TRTCH=COMP  
//SYSIN    DD * 
    DUMP FULL INDDNAME(DISK1) OPT(4) ALLEXCP ALLDATA(*) -   
  OUTDDNAME(TAPE1)) 
/*  

I noticed that the NONSMS STORCLAS does not have a FILTLIST.  Maybe this could 
be the problem.  

From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:09:24 AM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Esmee,

Try coding STORCLAS=storage-class-name which in your case would be 
storclas=nonsms

See JCL Reference Chap 12 DD Statement for more details

David O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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From: Darth Keller [mailto:darth.kel...@assurant.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

Do you not have a storage admin of some kind?  Someone responsible for 
writing the rules?  A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the 
routines should easily resolve your question. 

SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules  re-assigning it. 
  Someone coded it this way.

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
 I gave that a try however I got the same problem :

Esmie,

is the SYSDA esoteric name conflicting with SHRPP4 volume ?
Wht happens if you give SYSALLDA instead of SYDA  on TAPE1 DD ?

 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo


Walter,
 
You hit the nail on the head.  SYSALLDA worked.  I don't know why SYSDA doesn't 
eventhough it is part of the esoteric.
 
Thanks so much for you invaluable help.
 
Thanks to all the posters who helped with this post.  You all are a smashing 
bunch !!
 
From: Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:13:08 PM
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

 I gave that a try however I got the same problem :

Esmie,

is the SYSDA esoteric name conflicting with SHRPP4 volume ?
Wht happens if you give SYSALLDA instead of SYDA  on TAPE1 DD ?

 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
 I don't know why SYSDA doesn't eventhough it is part of the esoteric

using HCD, try to list all devices defined under the SYSDA esoteric name
and see if SHRPP4 address is defined within this group. My guess is SHRPP4
is NOT defined to SYSDA. 
 
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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