Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread Traylor, Terry
As a rule, reorg only to make your CDS bagger.  You can go beyond the 4GB limit 
with extended addressability.  You can also make your CDS  multi-cluster up to 
4 separate clusters.  If you do, make the middle cluster(s) FREESPACE(0)


Terry Traylor 
charlesSCHWAB 
TIS Mainframe Storage Management 
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John Dawes
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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

Good Day,
 
We have a new client on board.  I have noticed that the MCDS is at 93%.  I have 
never reorged the HSM cds's (for this client).  I would like to know if my 
reorg job is okay.  Please let me know if I am missing anything or spot 
something irregular?
/*
//STEP1    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1439,COND=(0,NE)
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* //SYSMAP   DD SYSOUT=*
//DD1    DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SYBSS1,DISP=SHR
//TAPE1   DD DSN=DFHSM.MCDS.BKUP1,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3490,
//   VOL=(,,,15)
//TAPE2   DD DSN=DFHSM.MCDS.BKUP2,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3490,
//   VOL=(,,,15)
  DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(DFHSM.MCDS))    -
  SPHERE   -
  SELECTMULTI(FIRST)   -
  LOGINDDNAME(DD1) -
  OUTDD(TAPE1,TAPE2) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP
/* //BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4M,TIME=1440
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=DFHSM.MCDS.PHYSICAL.BKUP, // 
DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3490,VOL=(,,,99),TRTCH=COMP
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* //SYSMAP   DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN    DD  *
 DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(DFHSM.MCDS)) -
   OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE1)
    
/* //STEPA EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,COND=(0,NE) //MCDS  DD   
DSNAME=DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T,DISP=(,CATLG),
//  DCB=(RECFM=VBS,LRECL=2044,BLKSIZE=0),
//  SPACE=(CYL,(550,550)),UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=SYBSS2
/* //STEPB EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=2048K,COND=(0,NE)
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD   *
  EXPORT  DFHSM.MCDS ODS(DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T) TEMPORARY
/* //STEPC EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=2048K,COND=(0,NE)
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD   *
  IMPORT IDS(DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T) ODS(DFHSM.MCDS)
/* //STEPD EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=2048K,COND=(0,NE)
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD   *
  DEL  DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T
/* //STEPE    EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=4K //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=* //DADA  
DD  SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD  *
   LISTC ENT('DFHSM.MCDS') ALL
/* //   
 
Thanks in advance.
    



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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:32 -0500 on 04/20/2009, Bruno Sugliani wrote about Re: DFHSM 
QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS:



Are you sure you want to reorg your CDS ?
I thought good practice was not to do that because you 'll end up splitting
ci/ca for inserts for few weeks, thus having performance impact.


You minimize the ci/ca split problem by defining FREESPACE in the 
original DEFINEs. That way you start out with the room to expand 
BEFORE you actually need to do the ci/ca split (ie: be in a 
post-ci/ca split condition).


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread John Dawes
Thanks to all who responded.  The MCDS grew from 92% to 93% over the last 5 
days. I looked at the SYS1.SAMPLIB(ARCSTRST).  I noticed that when it does the 
IMPORT command, it is importing to a .NEW.  This is confusing.  I am not sure 
as to the reason for this.  
 
//SYSIN DD *  
 LISTCAT ENT(?UID.MCDS ?UID.BCDS ?UID.OCDS) ALL   
 EXAMINE NAME(?UID.MCDS) INDEXTEST    
 IF LASTCC = 0 THEN - 
    EXPORT ?UID.MCDS ODS(?UID.EXPORT.MCDS) TEMPORARY  
 IF LASTCC = 0 THEN - 
    IMPORT IDS(?UID.EXPORT.MCDS) ODS(?UID.MCDS.?NEW) -
    OBJECTS - 
 ((?UID.MCDS -    
 NEWNAME(?UID.MCDS.?NEW)) -   
  (?UID.MCDS.DATA -   
   NEWNAME(?UID.MCDS.?NEW.DATA)) -    
  (?UID.MCDS.INDEX -  
   NEWNAME(?UID.MCDS.?NEW.INDEX))) -  
    CATALOG(?UCATNAM) 
 IF MAXCC = 0 THEN -  
    DELETE ?UID.EXPORT.MCDS NONVSAM   



--- On Tue, 21/4/09, Lizette Koehler  wrote:



>
>Perhaps the better question is - At what rate is John losing available space 
>in his MCDS?
>Has it been 93% full for the past 6 months or was it 75% full last week and he 
>can expect a phone call from OPs in the near future to the effect that HSM is 
>inoperative?
>IBM answer 3# - It depends.
>
>If it needs to be re-org'd then do as Walter suggests and modify the supplied 
>jcl in Samplib.
>
>
>>Good Day,
>> 
>>We have a new client on board.  I have noticed that the MCDS is at 93%.  I
>have never reorged the HSM cds's (for this client).  I would like to know if
>my reorg job is okay.  Please let me know if I am missing anything or spot
>something irregular?
>>/*
>
>Are you sure you want to reorg your CDS ?
>I thought good practice was not to do that because you 'll end up splitting
>ci/ca for inserts for few weeks, thus having performance impact.
>It used to be a recomendation not to do it. Has it changed?
>

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
And select a time when you can take down all of the DFHSM STCs that share the 
datasets.

I would not run the backup part until DFHSM was down in all places it needs to 
be.  I usually wait until my xCDS dataset is closer to 98% full to reorg.  One 
reorg usually last me a year or so.  We are not heavy in HSM usage.

Lizette



>
>Perhaps the better question is - At what rate is John losing available space 
>in his MCDS?
>Has it been 93% full for the past 6 months or was it 75% full last week and he 
>can expect a phone call from OPs in the near future to the effect that HSM is 
>inoperative?
>IBM answer 3# - It depends.
>
>If it needs to be re-org'd then do as Walter suggests and modify the supplied 
>jcl in Samplib.
>
>
>>Good Day,
>> 
>>We have a new client on board.  I have noticed that the MCDS is at 93%.  I
>have never reorged the HSM cds's (for this client).  I would like to know if
>my reorg job is okay.  Please let me know if I am missing anything or spot
>something irregular?
>>/*
>
>Are you sure you want to reorg your CDS ?
>I thought good practice was not to do that because you 'll end up splitting
>ci/ca for inserts for few weeks, thus having performance impact.
>It used to be a recomendation not to do it. Has it changed?
>

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Perhaps the better question is - At what rate is John losing available space in 
his MCDS?
Has it been 93% full for the past 6 months or was it 75% full last week and he 
can expect a phone call from OPs in the near future to the effect that HSM is 
inoperative?
IBM answer 3# - It depends.

If it needs to be re-org'd then do as Walter suggests and modify the supplied 
jcl in Samplib.

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bruno 
Sugliani [oldti...@wanadoo.fr]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:08:18 -0700, John Dawes  wrote:

>Good Day,
> 
>We have a new client on board.  I have noticed that the MCDS is at 93%.  I
have never reorged the HSM cds's (for this client).  I would like to know if
my reorg job is okay.  Please let me know if I am missing anything or spot
something irregular?
>/*

Are you sure you want to reorg your CDS ?
I thought good practice was not to do that because you 'll end up splitting
ci/ca for inserts for few weeks, thus having performance impact.
It used to be a recomendation not to do it. Has it changed?
Bruno Sugliani
zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr
http://zxnetconsult.free.fr


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread Walter Marguccio
> - Original Message 

> From: John Dawes 

> I would like to know if my reorg job is okay.  

John,

you might want to check ARCSTRST in SYS1.SAMPLIB. Here you find a job named 
HSMPRESS
used to reorganize the xCDS using the EXPORT/IMPORT commands of IDCAMS. I used 
it
last w-e to reorganize my BCDS. It works fine.

Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany


  

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:08:18 -0700, John Dawes  wrote:

>Good Day,
> 
>We have a new client on board.  I have noticed that the MCDS is at 93%.  I
have never reorged the HSM cds's (for this client).  I would like to know if
my reorg job is okay.  Please let me know if I am missing anything or spot
something irregular?
>/*    

Are you sure you want to reorg your CDS ? 
I thought good practice was not to do that because you 'll end up splitting
ci/ca for inserts for few weeks, thus having performance impact.
It used to be a recomendation not to do it. Has it changed?
Bruno Sugliani 
zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr
http://zxnetconsult.free.fr
 

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DFHSM QUESTION - REORG OF MCDS

2009-04-20 Thread John Dawes
Good Day,
 
We have a new client on board.  I have noticed that the MCDS is at 93%.  I have 
never reorged the HSM cds's (for this client).  I would like to know if my 
reorg job is okay.  Please let me know if I am missing anything or spot 
something irregular?
/*    
//STEP1    EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1439,COND=(0,NE)    
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSMAP   DD SYSOUT=*    
//DD1    DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SYBSS1,DISP=SHR 
//TAPE1   DD DSN=DFHSM.MCDS.BKUP1,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3490, 
//   VOL=(,,,15)  
//TAPE2   DD DSN=DFHSM.MCDS.BKUP2,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3490, 
//   VOL=(,,,15)  
  DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(DFHSM.MCDS))    -  
  SPHERE   -  
  SELECTMULTI(FIRST)   -  
  LOGINDDNAME(DD1) -  
  OUTDD(TAPE1,TAPE2) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP    
/*    
//BACKUP  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4M,TIME=1440  
//TAPE1    DD  DSN=DFHSM.MCDS.PHYSICAL.BKUP, 
// DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3490,VOL=(,,,99),TRTCH=COMP    
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSMAP   DD SYSOUT=*  
//SYSIN    DD  *    
 DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(DFHSM.MCDS)) -    
   OPT(4) ALLX ALLD(*) SPHERE OUTDD(TAPE1)
    
/*  
//STEPA EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,COND=(0,NE)    
//MCDS  DD   DSNAME=DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T,DISP=(,CATLG), 
//  DCB=(RECFM=VBS,LRECL=2044,BLKSIZE=0),   
//  SPACE=(CYL,(550,550)),UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=SYBSS2  
/*  
//STEPB EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=2048K,COND=(0,NE)    
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*   
//SYSIN DD   *  
  EXPORT  DFHSM.MCDS ODS(DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T) TEMPORARY    
/*  
//STEPC EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=2048K,COND=(0,NE)    
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*   
//SYSIN DD   *  
  IMPORT IDS(DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T) ODS(DFHSM.MCDS)  
/*  
//STEPD EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=2048K,COND=(0,NE)    
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*   
//SYSIN DD   *  
  DEL  DFHSM.REOGMCDS.T  
/*   
//STEPE    EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=4K 
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=* 
//DADA  DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSIN DD  *    
   LISTC ENT('DFHSM.MCDS') ALL   
/*   
//   
 
Thanks in advance.
    



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