Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-08 Thread Mike Wood
Mark, Like I said in my other post, the requirement for the OMVS segment is 
documented in the Coms Server: IP Configuration Guide.  There is nothing 
about that need for OMVS segment in the rmm books. There will be a reminder 
added into the IC C/S implementation steps with a pointer to the Coms 
Server IP Conf Guide for the next release of our books.

Mike Wood   RMM Development
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:46:56 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Thanks, Mike -
I don't have to, or want to share the TCDB any longer, I just wanted to be
sure that it would continue to work.

Where can I find documentation on setting up the OMVS segment for RMM?  I
didn't find it in the Implementation guide.

Mark Pace

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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-06 Thread Mike Wood
Mark, Although we would expect a client and its server to not be sharing the 
TCDB, theoretically you could do that. However, since one main driver for 
client/server is that there is no shared DASD, usuallly there is no other DASD 
sharing.
RMM has no default PORT, that is a mandatory operand within the CLIENT and 
SERVER operands on the OPTION command in parmlib.

Mike Wood   RMM Development
On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:21:29 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

What happens with OAM and the VOLCAT when you run in a Client/Server
configuration?  I'm currently running 2 LPARs sharing the VOLCAT and the 
RMM
files.  Will I still need to share the VOLCAT between the 2 systems?  I've
also been unable to find the default port that RMM will use on TCPIP.


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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks, Mike -
I don't have to, or want to share the TCDB any longer, I just wanted to be
sure that it would continue to work.

Where can I find documentation on setting up the OMVS segment for RMM?  I
didn't find it in the Implementation guide.

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Mike Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mark, Although we would expect a client and its server to not be sharing
 the
 TCDB, theoretically you could do that. However, since one main driver for
 client/server is that there is no shared DASD, usuallly there is no other
 DASD
 sharing.
 RMM has no default PORT, that is a mandatory operand within the CLIENT and
 SERVER operands on the OPTION command in parmlib.

 Mike Wood   RMM Development
 On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:21:29 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 What happens with OAM and the VOLCAT when you run in a Client/Server
 configuration?  I'm currently running 2 LPARs sharing the VOLCAT and the
 RMM
 files.  Will I still need to share the VOLCAT between the 2 systems?
  I've
 also been unable to find the default port that RMM will use on TCPIP.
 
 
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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-06 Thread Mike Wood
Mark, You are correct we do not document that requirement within the rmm 
pubs.  The requirement is here http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b370/1.2.11.1?
SHELF=EZ2ZO10J.bksDT=20070604150102 in the Comm Svr: IP Configuration 
Guide. 

Mike Wood   RMM Development
On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:20:40 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I also can not find in the Implementation Guide anything about the OMVS
segment that is required.  Is that documented elsewhere?



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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-05 Thread Mark Pace
I also can not find in the Implementation Guide anything about the OMVS
segment that is required.  Is that documented elsewhere?



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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-02 Thread Mark Pace
What happens with OAM and the VOLCAT when you run in a Client/Server
configuration?  I'm currently running 2 LPARs sharing the VOLCAT and the RMM
files.  Will I still need to share the VOLCAT between the 2 systems?  I've
also been unable to find the default port that RMM will use on TCPIP.


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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-01 Thread Mike Wood
Crispin, The most likely reason for this is that you have missing 
coexistance/toleration maintenance.  Refer to the z/OS Migration book and 
PSP buckets for the releases you plan to bring in as clients for what 
toleration 
maintenance is required.

Also, there were a couple of apars we shipped particularly to address certain 
aspects of a mixed client/server environment.  There were pre-conditioning 
PTFs and then exploitation PTFs. Be sure to not be running exploitation on one 
system but missing pre-conditioning on others. (OA14136, OA16523, OA14717, 
OA16524)

Mike WoodRMM Development
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:27:49 +0100, Crispin Hugo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to set up DFSMSRMM Server client support on a z/OS 1.7 system.
The z/OS 1.7 is defined Server with another z/OS 1.7 system as client. There
is NO pack/file sharing. This works fine. Should I be able to add to more
clients that are z/OS 1.8 and z/OS 1.9 ? When DFSMSRMM starts on these 
other
systems, it fails.
  . . . 
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-01 Thread Mike Wood
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:38:55 +0100, Crispin Hugo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi There,

Crispin, There are people out there with client/server implemented and they 
have been through from z/OS 1.6 to 1.9 mixing their environment as they go.

The statement '...at least at this release level' is confusing - it originally 
meant V1.6 (and still does) but seen in a 1.8 or 1.9 book - confusing. We 
have fixed the book for z/OS V1.10
'All client and server systems must be at a currently supported release level.'

You can share the CDS within a RMMplex, mixed, supported releases, with 
toleration/coexistance maintenance installed. RMMplex includes standard, 
server, and client systems.

Mike Wood  RMM Development
Anybody out there using DFSMSRMM server/Client on systems that are using
different levels of z/OS?

The DFSMSRMM Implementation and Customization Guide has confusing 
statement
in it. Which of these two are true ?

'All client and server systems must be at least at this release level.

You can share the control data set with other systems that run any 
supported
level of DFSMSrmm with any supported level of DFSMSrmm that has 
appropriate
toleration maintenance installed.



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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-04-30 Thread Crispin Hugo
Hi There,

Anybody out there using DFSMSRMM server/Client on systems that are using
different levels of z/OS?

The DFSMSRMM Implementation and Customization Guide has confusing statement
in it. Which of these two are true ?

'All client and server systems must be at least at this release level.  

You can share the control data set with other systems that run any supported
level of DFSMSrmm with any supported level of DFSMSrmm that has appropriate
toleration maintenance installed.



Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
Macro 4


 
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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-04-30 Thread Jimmy Wagner
Hugo,

We have shared the RMM environment across muliple releases of the operating 
system. Our SYSPROG, Test, and Production Sysplexes share RMM. Toleration 
maintenance allows this to operate fine. Contact me off list if you would like 
more info.

Jimmy

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Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-30 Thread Scott Rowe
I don't see any conflict in those statements.  As I understand it, 
client/server doesn't share the control dataset, only the server accesses the 
CDS - the client makes requests through the server.

 Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/30/2008 4:38 AM 
Hi There,

Anybody out there using DFSMSRMM server/Client on systems that are using
different levels of z/OS?

The DFSMSRMM Implementation and Customization Guide has confusing statement
in it. Which of these two are true ?

'All client and server systems must be at least at this release level.  

You can share the control data set with other systems that run any supported
level of DFSMSrmm with any supported level of DFSMSrmm that has appropriate
toleration maintenance installed.



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Systems Programmer
Macro 4



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DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-04-28 Thread Crispin Hugo
I am trying to set up DFSMSRMM Server client support on a z/OS 1.7 system.
The z/OS 1.7 is defined Server with another z/OS 1.7 system as client. There
is NO pack/file sharing. This works fine. Should I be able to add to more
clients that are z/OS 1.8 and z/OS 1.9 ? When DFSMSRMM starts on these other
systems, it fails.

EDG0204I DFSMSRMM BEING INITIALIZED FROM MEMBER EDGRMMPR IN PROD.SYS1.PA  
 RMLIB 
 EDG0362I TCP/IP COMMUNICATION SUCCESSFULLY INITIALIZED FOR CLIENT - HOST  
  NAME ZOS19 ADDRESS 10.0.40.90 PORT NUMBER 2000   
 EDG0354I CONNECTION TO SERVER M4ZOSA SUCCESSFUL. IP ADDRESS 10.0.40.11
 PORT NUMBER 2000  
 IEA794I SVC DUMP HAS CAPTURED: 805
 DUMPID=011 REQUESTED BY JOB (DFRMM   )
 DUMP TITLE=EDGAMGR  UNEXPECTED ERROR DETECTED 
 BPXP018I THREAD 1E6207E1, IN PROCESS 83951749, ENDED 806  
 WITHOUT BEING UNDUBBED WITH COMPLETION CODE 88AE, AND REASON CODE 
 . 
 EDG0104E DFSMSRMM SUBSYSTEM INITIALIZATION FAILED 


Before I go through the dumps, just wanted to know if there were any
restrictions that anyone knew of.

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