Re: EDC5133I during ServerPac run

2008-11-19 Thread Rod Bremner
Thanks Lizette,
I'm sure there will be a lots of happy sysprogs if IBM make this a bit clearer.
Just wasted a heap of time myself, with a restore job failing on SMPPTS with 
the /tmp HFS full. (there wasn't actually an HFS at that mmountpoint at all) 
The forum helped me out .. IBM have still not resolved this issue, and it's 
been 
happening for years! If they would only document that you need an HFS at 
this mountpoint and how big it should be!!
Cheers
Rod

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Re: EDC5133I during ServerPac run

2008-05-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
It will mean that I have to read up on how to implement the DFS and 
zFS functions in my environment to provide this type of support for 
HFS.

The TFS is a physical file system driver the same way zFS and HFS are.
The difference is that TFS is a memory only file system driver while 
zFS and HFS are both DASD file system drivers.

Neither of them needs one of the others. They're independent.

HFS was the original DASD driver and is being replaced more and more
by zFS. Data is persistently stored in DASD data sets.

TFS uses the private area in the address space to store the data. Data
is lost when a TFS file system is unmounted. 


Have a look at the confighfs and zfsadm grow commands in the z/OS
UNIX
command reference and in the DFS zFS Administration Guide, resp.,  to
learn 
how to increase the size of an existing HFS or zFS file system, even
while
it is mounted.

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EDC5133I during ServerPac run

2008-05-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am trying to understand this error message EDC5133I No space left on
device.

I looked it up and it did not help.  I tried reallocating the file I thought
it was complaining about and that was not the one.  I finally found a better
direction on the CA website and it indicated that the /tmp file was full.
This seemed to have been my problem.  

What I would like to know (since I am not conversant in UNIX) is what does
mounting this file with PARM(-s 100) do for me?  According to CA's entry it
would help.

(I will be requesting that IBM enhance this message for those of us who
cannot talk UNIX.) 

Lizette

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Re: EDC5133I during ServerPac run

2008-05-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 19 May 2008 08:24:20 -0400, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to understand this error message EDC5133I No space left on
device.

I looked it up and it did not help.  I tried reallocating the file I thought
it was complaining about and that was not the one.  I finally found a better
direction on the CA website and it indicated that the /tmp file was full.
This seemed to have been my problem.

What I would like to know (since I am not conversant in UNIX) is what does
mounting this file with PARM(-s 100) do for me?  According to CA's entry it
would help.

(I will be requesting that IBM enhance this message for those of us who
cannot talk UNIX.)


That means create a TFS with a size of 100M.   I always have had /tmp as
a HFS (and now zFS).  If you need to allocate it any larger, you may want
to consider running it as a colony address space, otherwise the memory
is taken from the private storage of the kernel.

Mark
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Re: EDC5133I during ServerPac run

2008-05-19 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Lizette asked:

What I would like to know (since I am not conversant in UNIX) is what
does mounting this file with PARM(-s 100) do for me?  

IF you are using a TFS to back your /tmp directory then PARM(-s 100)
will give you 100mb of space. If you are using an HFS or zFS to back the
/tmp directory then it won't help. The 100 is the number of megabytes of
space to allocate for the TFS.
Trying to figure out which filesystem is full is always problematic.
/tmp is a common culprit and the root can also give you the same
symptoms if the root is R/W and someone creates a new directory without
backing it with an HFS or zFS.


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Re: EDC5133I during ServerPac run

2008-05-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks Mark,

It will mean that I have to read up on how to implement the DFS and zFS
functions in my environment to provide this type of support for HFS.

I have reallocated and mounted my /tmp as 7000 cyls.  I hope this is enough.
However, the Serverpac seems smart enough to allow me to restart from the
top each time and only pax those things not yet pax'd.
 

Lizette



 That means create a TFS with a size of 100M.   I always have had /tmp as
  a HFS (and now zFS).  If you need to allocate it any larger, you may want
 to consider running it as a colony address space, otherwise the memory
 is taken from the private storage of the kernel.

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Re: EDC5133I during ServerPac run

2008-05-19 Thread Jousma, David
Lizette,

7000 cylinders may not be enough.  You will need a /tmp file that is
roughly the same size as the HFS you used to download your serverpac.
When I downloaded my 1.8 serverpac, I allocated a zFS twice the size of
the order size, and pointed the work directory back to that mountpoint,
rather than taking the /tmp default.  Depending on which system you are
running this on, filling up /tmp may cause you a little heartburn. 


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Subject: Re: EDC5133I during ServerPac run

Thanks Mark,

It will mean that I have to read up on how to implement the DFS and zFS
functions in my environment to provide this type of support for HFS.

I have reallocated and mounted my /tmp as 7000 cyls.  I hope this is
enough.
However, the Serverpac seems smart enough to allow me to restart from
the top each time and only pax those things not yet pax'd.
 

Lizette




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