Re: HCD Activate with new LPAR

2009-10-16 Thread R.S.

Guy Gardoit pisze:

Looks like HCD TEST result answered your question.  Since you're not
deleting anything, I'd trust that result.


Well... I don't trust the results g
I understand TEST answers as :
1. Failure. You cannot do it.
2. Success. You can TRY.
In fact, in my case I bet the activation would fail, however I don't 
know other results. Reason of my expectation: no LPAR profile was 
present for new LPAR. No partition ID, no memory assignment. I doub if 
plug and play wizard woul do it for me. g


Now I prepared LPAR profile on HMC, but still feel some fear...

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Re: HCD Activate with new LPAR

2009-10-16 Thread Roy Hewitt

Radoslaw,

R.S. wrote:

Guy Gardoit pisze:

Looks like HCD TEST result answered your question.  Since you're not
deleting anything, I'd trust that result.


Well... I don't trust the results g
I understand TEST answers as :
1. Failure. You cannot do it.
2. Success. You can TRY.


your right - a successful test doesn't always guarantee a successful 
activation!!  i.e. pinned UCBs

In fact, in my case I bet the activation would fail, however I don't 
know other results. Reason of my expectation: no LPAR profile was 
present for new LPAR. No partition ID, no memory assignment. I doub if 
plug and play wizard woul do it for me. g


Now I prepared LPAR profile on HMC, but still feel some fear...



However, I doubt a missing LPAR profile is a reason for the activation to fail... Yes, you need one 
to activate the partition, but the IODF activate will work just fine without one. Prior to reserved 
Lpars (*), it was a little difficult to create the profile as CEC didn't even know about the LPAR!


Cheers

Roy

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HCD Activate with new LPAR

2009-10-15 Thread R.S.

The following scenario:
z10, z/OS 1.9, several LPARs.
I just modified my IODF. Added CF LPAR and connected it using just-added 
ICP channels to existing OS LPAR (X). I used candidate LPAR (named '*').


Question: can I activate the changes dynamically ?

I didn't create any profile for new CF LPAR on HMC (of course I can do 
it if needed).

The OS LPAR X can be restarted, *but not* other LPARs.
I issued ACTIVATE ...,TEST and got message TEST DETECTED NO CONDITIONS 
WHICH WOULD RESULT IN ACTIVATE FAILURE.



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Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości 
wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją warunkowego 
podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 
2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r., może ulec 
podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym 
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Re: HCD Activate with new LPAR

2009-10-15 Thread Walter Marguccio
- Original Message 
From: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl

 The following scenario: z10, z/OS 1.9, several LPARs.
 I just modified my IODF. Added CF LPAR and connected it using just-added
 ICP channels to existing OS LPAR (X). I used candidate LPAR (named '*').

Question: can I activate the changes dynamically ?

Radoslaw,

I did it at our shop with a less modern HW/SW combination than yours. We had
a z890 with 3 LPARs in basic Sysplex, z/OS 1.7 on all but the sandbox LPAR, at 
1.9 level.
We had to add our 4th LPAR and we wanted to avoid a POR.

I can't tell you if activating dynamically a CF-like LPAR differs from 
activating a OS-like one,
but can't see why it should be different. 

You can surely find more details in 'z/OS Planned Outage Avoidance Checklist'

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247328.html?Open
   
HTH.

Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany


  

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Re: HCD Activate with new LPAR

2009-10-15 Thread Scott Rowe
You should be able to activate dynamically, I have done so, on a z9
(once).

 R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl 10/15/2009 9:12 AM 
The following scenario:
z10, z/OS 1.9, several LPARs.
I just modified my IODF. Added CF LPAR and connected it using
just-added 
ICP channels to existing OS LPAR (X). I used candidate LPAR (named
'*').

Question: can I activate the changes dynamically ?

I didn't create any profile for new CF LPAR on HMC (of course I can do

it if needed).
The OS LPAR X can be restarted, *but not* other LPARs.
I issued ACTIVATE ...,TEST and got message TEST DETECTED NO CONDITIONS

WHICH WOULD RESULT IN ACTIVATE FAILURE.


-- 
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland


--
BRE Bank SA
ul. Senatorska 18
00-950 Warszawa
www.brebank.pl 

Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy 
XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, 
nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237
NIP: 526-021-50-88
Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w
całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją
warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI
WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października
2008r., może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w
podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości
opłacone.

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Re: HCD Activate with new LPAR

2009-10-15 Thread Guy Gardoit
Looks like HCD TEST result answered your question.  Since you're not
deleting anything, I'd trust that result.


2009/10/15 R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl

 The following scenario:
 z10, z/OS 1.9, several LPARs.
 I just modified my IODF. Added CF LPAR and connected it using just-added
 ICP channels to existing OS LPAR (X). I used candidate LPAR (named '*').

 Question: can I activate the changes dynamically ?

 I didn't create any profile for new CF LPAR on HMC (of course I can do it
 if needed).
 The OS LPAR X can be restarted, *but not* other LPARs.
 I issued ACTIVATE ...,TEST and got message TEST DETECTED NO CONDITIONS
 WHICH WOULD RESULT IN ACTIVATE FAILURE.


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 Radoslaw Skorupka
 Lodz, Poland


 --
 BRE Bank SA
 ul. Senatorska 18
 00-950 Warszawa
 www.brebank.pl

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 Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237
 NIP: 526-021-50-88
 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w
 całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją
 warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z
 dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r.,
 może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym
 kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości opłacone.

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