Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data
On Thu, 8 May 2008 17:01:41 -0500, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:24:29 -0500, Todd Burch wrote: Im making an assumption that somewhere in a control block somewhere (maybe the CVT, ECVT, or SMF control blocks?), there is a site/company name (like ACME Inc.) that is defined at z/OS install time. If this assumption is correct, where could I pick up that data in an IPCS dump? Ive looked in the CVT, ECVT and SMCA but havent found anything yet. (Perspective: clients send in dumps, and I would like to output the client data with our automated IPCS analysis routines.) There is a 16-byte field in the CVT's prefix area, at -24 decimal from the CVT base, which was set aside by IBM decades ago for such a purpose. The field's name is CVTVERID. (FLCCVT-24)-CVTVERID Please let us all know if you ever find any non-blank data in that field from any client site. (I don't expect that you will find that many sites customize that field. I won't be surprised if many on this list are unaware of it.) I do know shops that use it. The one that asked me to add the display of it to IPLINFO (which I do if it is non-blank) zapped it as part of their cloning process and used it to help easily identify the maintenance level of a particular system. Roland added the display to SHOWMVS (SHOWZOS) also IIRC. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IPCS - where to get shop specific data
I’m making an assumption that somewhere in a control block somewhere (maybe the CVT, ECVT, or SMF control blocks?), there is a site/company name (like “ACME Inc.”) that is defined at z/OS install time. If this assumption is correct, where could I pick up that data in an IPCS dump? I’ve looked in the CVT, ECVT and SMCA but haven’t found anything yet. (Perspective: clients send in dumps, and I would like to output the client data with our automated IPCS analysis routines.) Thanks, Todd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.10/1421 - Release Date: 5/7/2008 5:23 PM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data
At one shop I worked at, we setup the User CVT with info like this. I do not think it is normally found in any system control block. I think you have to mod it into your environment. Lizette -- Snip I'm making an assumption that somewhere in a control block somewhere (maybe the CVT, ECVT, or SMF control blocks?), there is a site/company name (like ACME Inc.) that is defined at z/OS install time. If this assumption is correct, where could I pick up that data in an IPCS dump? I've looked in the CVT, ECVT and SMCA but haven't found anything yet. [] --UnSnip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data
Your assumption is incorrect. There is no customer specific information automatically stored in any z/OS control block. About the best you could do would be to retrieve the CPU serial number and (assuming you use serial number based licensing) look up the customer information from your licensing database. Again, this assumes that your license database is available on z/OS. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Burch Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IPCS - where to get shop specific data I'm making an assumption that somewhere in a control block somewhere (maybe the CVT, ECVT, or SMF control blocks?), there is a site/company name (like ACME Inc.) that is defined at z/OS install time. If this assumption is correct, where could I pick up that data in an IPCS dump? I've looked in the CVT, ECVT and SMCA but haven't found anything yet. (Perspective: clients send in dumps, and I would like to output the client data with our automated IPCS analysis routines.) Thanks, Todd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.10/1421 - Release Date: 5/7/2008 5:23 PM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data
On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:24:29 -0500, Todd Burch wrote: Im making an assumption that somewhere in a control block somewhere (maybe the CVT, ECVT, or SMF control blocks?), there is a site/company name (like ACME Inc.) that is defined at z/OS install time. If this assumption is correct, where could I pick up that data in an IPCS dump? Ive looked in the CVT, ECVT and SMCA but havent found anything yet. (Perspective: clients send in dumps, and I would like to output the client data with our automated IPCS analysis routines.) There is a 16-byte field in the CVT's prefix area, at -24 decimal from the CVT base, which was set aside by IBM decades ago for such a purpose. The field's name is CVTVERID. (FLCCVT-24)-CVTVERID Please let us all know if you ever find any non-blank data in that field from any client site. (I don't expect that you will find that many sites customize that field. I won't be surprised if many on this list are unaware of it.) -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data
Tom A very common usage of that field is store some info about the level of the z/OS system packs (eg put level). A site can add a simple jobstep to their sysres cloning/propagation JCL to update the field using a simple zap. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: 08 May 2008 23:02 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:24:29 -0500, Todd Burch wrote: I'm making an assumption that somewhere in a control block somewhere (maybe the CVT, ECVT, or SMF control blocks?), there is a site/company name (like ACME Inc.) that is defined at z/OS install time. If this assumption is correct, where could I pick up that data in an IPCS dump? I've looked in the CVT, ECVT and SMCA but haven't found anything yet. (Perspective: clients send in dumps, and I would like to output the client data with our automated IPCS analysis routines.) There is a 16-byte field in the CVT's prefix area, at -24 decimal from the CVT base, which was set aside by IBM decades ago for such a purpose. The field's name is CVTVERID. (FLCCVT-24)-CVTVERID Please let us all know if you ever find any non-blank data in that field from any client site. (I don't expect that you will find that many sites customize that field. I won't be surprised if many on this list are unaware of it.) -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data
Hi Todd, Off the top of my head, I have never seen an IBM - PARMLIB member, system installation option or IBM system control block that contains a site name. The processor's serial number is in the hardware, but that's about it. The only installation / customization routine that I have ever seen, which asks for the company name, address, etc. is for the CA-1 Tape Management System. CA uses that to customize report page headers. Is that in memory at all times so it might pop up in a dump? ... I don't recall. Of course, I could think of a zillion uses for such a beast. Having the company name, address, etc. globally available at a memory location, where any program can easily get to it ... that would certainly be nice, IMHO. Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Burch Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 14:24 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IPCS - where to get shop specific data I'm making an assumption that somewhere in a control block somewhere (maybe the CVT, ECVT, or SMF control blocks?), there is a site/company name (like ACME Inc.) that is defined at z/OS install time. If this assumption is correct, where could I pick up that data in an IPCS dump? I've looked in the CVT, ECVT and SMCA but haven't found anything yet. (Perspective: clients send in dumps, and I would like to output the client data with our automated IPCS analysis routines.) Thanks, Todd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.10/1421 - Release Date: 5/7/2008 5:23 PM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPCS - where to get shop specific data
On Thu, 8 May 2008 18:05:31 -0400, Rob Scott wrote: Tom A very common usage of that field is store some info about the level of the z/OS system packs (eg put level). A site can add a simple jobstep to their sysres cloning/propagation JCL to update the field using a simple zap. Hi Rob, Some sites certainly do that but certainly not all sites, nor is the format common by any reasonable definition. Some folks stick the date (in various formats) into the field, some plant the PUT or ESO level into the field, some use both. I've seen many combinations. I have seen sites use the field to identify different systems in a shop and (in much larger entities) to identify different shops throughout the corporation. I don't know whether outsourcers make use of the field in a manner similar to Todd's idea. Smaller sites tend not to be aware or be too burdened with other work to bother updating the field at all. To Wayne's point, there is no common, standard place in any IBM-standard data structure that holds such a Universal Customer-ID value. (I agree with Wayne.) The CPUID ought to be unique (at least until PSI is able to sell their hardware). I don't see any compelling reason why customers would want to have to maintain such a value. (Customers don't see other customers' dumps so they don't have the need.) Perhaps some ISVs use the license key values to accomplish Todd's goal? -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
