Re: Java V6 install problem
Hi all, I'm also trying to do this install, and have followed the Read Me up to the same point as the original poster, however, I'm, getting a different issue (From OMVS under TSO - z/os 1.9):- £ export PATH=/usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:£PATH £ export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0 £ echo £PATH /usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:/bin £ echo £DISPLAY xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0 £ java -version Ý1¨ + Done(137) java -version 83886118 Killed /usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin/java I downloaded and ran Mark Zeldens' REXXSTOR, with the following result: - V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 8192K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 10216K 8256K 8192K88K 8168K Above 16M: 1927168K131072K131072K 420K130652K Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) Any thoughts / ideas / suggestions? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
Vince Getgood wrote: Hi all, I'm also trying to do this install, and have followed the Read Me up to the same point as the original poster, however, I'm, getting a different issue (From OMVS under TSO - z/os 1.9):- £ export PATH=/usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:£PATH £ export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0 £ echo £PATH /usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:/bin £ echo £DISPLAY xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0 £ java -version Ý1¨ + Done(137) java -version 83886118 Killed /usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin/java I downloaded and ran Mark Zeldens' REXXSTOR, with the following result: - V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 8192K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 10216K 8256K 8192K88K 8168K Above 16M: 1927168K131072K131072K 420K130652K Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) Any thoughts / ideas / suggestions? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Memlimit cannot be 0M for the 64Bbit JDK. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL The universe is driven by the complex interaction between three ingredients: matter, energy, and enlightened self-interest. Babylon 5 - Survivors -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Vince Getgood wrote: . . . Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) Any thoughts / ideas / suggestions? Memlimit cannot be 0M for the 64Bbit JDK. Indeed, unlike REGION=0M which requests all available 24- and 31-bit private storage, MEMLIMIT=0M requests that NO above-the-bar storage be made available. To get behavior equivalent to REGION=0M you need to specify MEMLIMIT=NOLIMIT. And if you don't specify an installation default MEMLIMIT (SMFPRMxx, IEFUSI, etc.), you get NOTHING above the bar. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:46:06 -0500, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Vince Getgood wrote: . . . Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) Any thoughts / ideas / suggestions? Memlimit cannot be 0M for the 64Bbit JDK. Indeed, unlike REGION=0M which requests all available 24- and 31-bit private storage, MEMLIMIT=0M requests that NO above-the-bar storage be made available. To get behavior equivalent to REGION=0M you need to specify MEMLIMIT=NOLIMIT. And if you don't specify an installation default MEMLIMIT (SMFPRMxx, IEFUSI, etc.), you get NOTHING above the bar. Not entirely true. REGION=0M can get you 64-bit MEMLIMIT. It's all very confusing, but this APAR for z/OS 1.7 and z/OS 1.8 explains the behavior as of z/OS 1.9: APAR Identifier .. OA14391 Last Changed 06/07/20 DEFAULT MEMLIMIT FOR JOBS STARTED WITH REGION=0 THAT HAVE REGION SUBSEQUENTLY LIMITED BY IEFUSI. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
Don't you just LOVE consistency? As I'm working in a test LPAR, I changed SMFPRMxx to MEMLIMIT=1T, and now Marks rexx now shows: - V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 8192K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 10216K 8256K 8192K92K 8164K Above 16M: 1927168K131072K131072K 420K130652K Above 2G :32M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: IEFUSI So IEFUSI is getting in the mix. Now when I do the java -version, I get: - JIT: fatal error, failed to allocate 8192 Kb data cache JVMJ9VM015W Initialization error for library j9jit24(11): cannot initialize JIT Could not create the Java virtual machine. However, java -fullversion gives: - £ java -fullversion java full version JRE 1.6.0 IBM z/OS build pmz6460sr4-20090219_01 (SR4) I think this is still a Virtual memoery issue, and I'm being limited by IEFUSI. Any way around this without changing IEFUSI? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:22:52 -0500, Vince Getgood vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote: Don't you just LOVE consistency? As I'm working in a test LPAR, I changed SMFPRMxx to MEMLIMIT=1T, and now Marks rexx now shows: - V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 8192K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 10216K 8256K 8192K92K 8164K Above 16M: 1927168K131072K131072K 420K130652K Above 2G :32M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: IEFUSI So IEFUSI is getting in the mix. Now when I do the java -version, I get: - JIT: fatal error, failed to allocate 8192 Kb data cache JVMJ9VM015W Initialization error for library j9jit24(11): cannot initialize JIT Could not create the Java virtual machine. However, java -fullversion gives: - £ java -fullversion java full version JRE 1.6.0 IBM z/OS build pmz6460sr4-20090219_01 (SR4) I think this is still a Virtual memoery issue, and I'm being limited by IEFUSI. Any way around this without changing IEFUSI? You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...) and leave out IEFUSI. Then SET SMF=xx. This is what is recommended anyway. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
This is somewhat off-topic, but if you don't have memory constraint issues in your Java apps ( 1.5GB heap), you are probably better off running the 31-bit version of Java 6. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...) and leave out IEFUSI. Then SET SMF=xx. In the SMFPRM that I'm using, I have: - SUBSYS(OMVS,NOTYPE(4,5,19,20,40,62,63,65:69,99) NOEXITS,INTERVAL(01),DETAIL) So IEFUSI isn't affecting OMVS, right? Shouldn't I be putting SUBSYS(TSO,EXITS(,)) instead? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:53:04 -0500, Vince Getgood vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote: You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...) and leave out IEFUSI. Then SET SMF=xx. In the SMFPRM that I'm using, I have: - SUBSYS(OMVS,NOTYPE(4,5,19,20,40,62,63,65:69,99) NOEXITS,INTERVAL(01),DETAIL) So IEFUSI isn't affecting OMVS, right? Shouldn't I be putting SUBSYS(TSO,EXITS(,)) instead? Sorry, since you are using TSO OMVS, then that is where IEFUSI is getting control. If you have it configured, telnet directly into z/OS Unix and try it (I have z/OS Unix telnet set up for port 623). Otherwise, either exclude your exit from TSO or modify it. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
we had the same java 'fatal' storage error for almost a year when we first went to z/os 1.9. It happened with all releases of java - 1.4, 1.5, 1.6. No one seemed to know how to fix it although I suspected that IEFUSI was the cause, I could not prove it to those responsible for the exit. And we looked at all the other parms, MEMLIMIT, BPX MAXXASIZE, RACF SIZEAMAX (or something like it). I was told by IBM support center to just limit the amount of virtual storage that java uses in the IBM_JAVA_OPTIONS=-Xmxnn profile options, which circumvented the error. A few months ago, the 'fatal' error disappeared and I see that IEFUSI is not in the SMF SUBSYS parm. Was the IEFUSI specification in SMFPRM the only thing that caused the error? Why was a SMF setting responsible for the java error in the first place? I reported this problem to the OMVS list and no one mentioned SMF. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Java V6 install problem On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:22:52 -0500, Vince Getgood vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote: Don't you just LOVE consistency? As I'm working in a test LPAR, I changed SMFPRMxx to MEMLIMIT=1T, and now Marks rexx now shows: - V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 8192K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 10216K 8256K 8192K92K 8164K Above 16M: 1927168K131072K131072K 420K130652K Above 2G :32M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: IEFUSI So IEFUSI is getting in the mix. Now when I do the java -version, I get: - JIT: fatal error, failed to allocate 8192 Kb data cache JVMJ9VM015W Initialization error for library j9jit24(11): cannot initialize JIT Could not create the Java virtual machine. However, java -fullversion gives: - £ java -fullversion java full version JRE 1.6.0 IBM z/OS build pmz6460sr4-20090219_01 (SR4) I think this is still a Virtual memoery issue, and I'm being limited by IEFUSI. Any way around this without changing IEFUSI? You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...) and leave out IEFUSI. Then SET SMF=xx. This is what is recommended anyway. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
FWIW, if you run java via the JZOS Batch launcher with the LOGLVL='+D' option, it will print out the requested vs actual below-line/above-line/above-bar storage from the LDA. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:34:52 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: FWIW, if you run java via the JZOS Batch launcher with the LOGLVL='+D' option, it will print out the requested vs actual below-line/above-line/above-bar storage from the LDA. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies In which case IEFUSI (SYS.IEFUSI) will still be in effect, but you can easily add MEMLIMIT= to your JCL (but IEFUSI can still override it). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
I realize this is apples versus oranges, but here's a comparison between JDK and JRE sizes on another platform (using file download sizes): Sun Java SE Development Kit 6 Update 13 for 64-bit X86 Linux (RPM bin): 72.51MB Sun Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 13 for 64-bit X86 Linux (RPM bin): 18.20MB Difference = 54.31MB Disk Resident Difference = something more (not hugely more) than 54.31MB Memory and CPU Resource Consumption Difference (for runtime function) = zero In other words, yes, the JDK consumes more disk space compared to the JRE. But that's the only difference (if you're using only the runtime functions). And some tens of megabytes isn't all that big nowadays -- we live in a world with different (progressively higher) constraints. Also, if IBM only distributes the JDK, that simplifies maintenance and support for both IBM and field installations. Maintenance/support costs are non-zero -- and (one assumes) easily outweigh the disk space difference. Also, many mainframe customers insist on (re)compiling from source directly on the mainframe as part of their code deployment and governance requirements -- mainframe-class security practices and all. This is probably common enough that a JDK-only packaging strategy for z/OS makes even more sense. [Basically the ratio of JDK-function users to JRE-only function users is much higher on z/OS than it would be on, say, Microsoft Windows. You're not likely only needing a Web browser Java plug-in for z/OS. :-)] Also, there are advantages to cutting down on packaging variations to benefit areas like software product testing. Vendors don't have to worry about JRE versus JDK, and they can rely on the JDK being present for steps like installation scripts, ongoing product patching and maintenance service, etc. They can also rely on the fact that javac is always available in any situation, without having to complicate disaster recovery planning, for example. (Hey, where is javac so I can patch that Java program and keep my business running) Said another way, the JDK is the JRE in certain respects on z/OS -- it's a more appropriate lowest common denominator for z/OS software vendors. Yet another difference is that there are already two JDKs distributed for z/OS for each JDK version: 31-bit and 64-bit. IBM could change its mind and combine the JDK packaging into a single distribution containing both 31-bit and 64-bit JDKs. Might even be a good idea. But that would increase disk space requirements for 31-bit only or 64-bit only users. So you might be saving disk space already, just in another way. :-) If the disk space remains a concern, in principle you could delete unnecessary zFS (or HFS) files. I don't recommend that, but it can be done. You could run an in-house post-installation job to do that. Is it worth it, though? - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE? I find only the SDK on the IBM site, and it's way more code than I need or want. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: Good catch... I didn't even notice is said 10M and not 10G. My default is 10G so my mind just saw the 10 and missed the M. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:26:36 -0500, Peter X. DeFabritus pxdef...@earthlink.net wrote: Actually, 10M is not much storage above the bar - you might want to specify at least 2G, the default for z/OS 1.10, if you wanted to try the 64-bit version again. On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:31:35 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed it an installed the 32bit version instead. That runs just fine. Thanks for everyone's input. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit. I can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only have 32M. How are you executing this? From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS? If TSO, are you allowed to logon with a larger region size? Even if you are, it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be getting in the way also if using a telnet session. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html http://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: # ./rexxstor V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 55296K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 9192K 6564K 6564K 8K 6556K Above 16M: 1961984K 32768K 32768K 712K 32056K Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: SMF # This is z/OS 1.9 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the shell / environment you are testing under? If you aren't sure or want to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it from the shell you are working with. Mark -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive
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I think the answer is no. http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/software/java/products/ This Web site is the definitive source of information for the z/OS Java products. It should be consulted for the latest on content, availability and service levels. The above site only lists SDK's. I've never seen a JRE-only for z/OS. Brian On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:23:16 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE? I find only the SDK on the IBM site, and it's way more code than I need or want. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Wed, 27 May 2009, Mark Pace wrote: Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE? I find only the SDK on the IBM site, and it's way more code than I need or want. I'm curious as to why? It's not as if the JRE were any freer. I've never seen only the JRE packaged for z/OS. -- Trying to write with a pencil that is dull is pointless. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Because the SDK is HUGE with allow the documentation, sample apps, etc... The JRE usually is much smaller. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009, Mark Pace wrote: Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE? I find only the SDK on the IBM site, and it's way more code than I need or want. I'm curious as to why? It's not as if the JRE were any freer. I've never seen only the JRE packaged for z/OS. -- Trying to write with a pencil that is dull is pointless. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
Hi z/OS 1.6 was the first release with 64 bit support. We have never used Our actual version is z/OS 1.9, but starting from bin: MV19:/u/java/J6.0_64/binÄ272Ü:java -version java version 1.6.0 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz6460sr1-20080416_01(SR1)) IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390x-64 jvmmz6460-20080415_18762 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) J9VM - 20080415_018762_BHdSMr JIT - r9_20080415_1520 GC - 20080415_AA) JCL - 20080412_01 Mark Pace wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
How big is your region? Larry Gray Large Systems Engineering Lowe's Companies 704-758-5337 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Java V6 install problem I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: All information in and attached to the e-mail(s) below may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. If you have erroneously received this communication, please notify the sender immediately by phone (704-758-1000) or by e-mail and destroy all copies of this message (electronic, paper, or otherwise). Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the shell / environment you are testing under? If you aren't sure or want to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it from the shell you are working with. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
# ./rexxstor V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 55296K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 9192K 6564K 6564K 8K 6556K Above 16M: 1961984K 32768K 32768K 712K 32056K Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: SMF # This is z/OS 1.9 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the shell / environment you are testing under? If you aren't sure or want to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it from the shell you are working with. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace # ./rexxstor V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 55296K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 9192K 6564K 6564K 8K 6556K Above 16M: 1961984K 32768K 32768K 712K 32056K Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: SMF # This is z/OS 1.9 The smallest region size in which I've ever been able to run java -version is 128M. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit. I can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only have 32M. How are you executing this? From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS? If TSO, are you allowed to logon with a larger region size? Even if you are, it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be getting in the way also if using a telnet session. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: # ./rexxstor V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 55296K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 9192K 6564K 6564K 8K 6556K Above 16M: 1961984K 32768K 32768K 712K 32056K Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: SMF # This is z/OS 1.9 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the shell / environment you are testing under? If you aren't sure or want to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it from the shell you are working with. Mark -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed it an installed the 32bit version instead. That runs just fine. Thanks for everyone's input. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit. I can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only have 32M. How are you executing this? From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS? If TSO, are you allowed to logon with a larger region size? Even if you are, it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be getting in the way also if using a telnet session. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: # ./rexxstor V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 55296K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 9192K 6564K 6564K 8K 6556K Above 16M: 1961984K 32768K 32768K 712K 32056K Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: SMF # This is z/OS 1.9 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the shell / environment you are testing under? If you aren't sure or want to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it from the shell you are working with. Mark -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
Actually, 10M is not much storage above the bar - you might want to specify at least 2G, the default for z/OS 1.10, if you wanted to try the 64-bit version again. On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:31:35 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed it an installed the 32bit version instead. That runs just fine. Thanks for everyone's input. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit. I can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only have 32M. How are you executing this? From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS? If TSO, are you allowed to logon with a larger region size? Even if you are, it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be getting in the way also if using a telnet session. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: # ./rexxstor V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 55296K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 9192K 6564K 6564K 8K 6556K Above 16M: 1961984K 32768K 32768K 712K 32056K Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: SMF # This is z/OS 1.9 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the shell / environment you are testing under? If you aren't sure or want to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it from the shell you are working with. Mark -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java V6 install problem
Good catch... I didn't even notice is said 10M and not 10G. My default is 10G so my mind just saw the 10 and missed the M. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:26:36 -0500, Peter X. DeFabritus pxdef...@earthlink.net wrote: Actually, 10M is not much storage above the bar - you might want to specify at least 2G, the default for z/OS 1.10, if you wanted to try the 64-bit version again. On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:31:35 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed it an installed the 32bit version instead. That runs just fine. Thanks for everyone's input. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit. I can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only have 32M. How are you executing this? From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS? If TSO, are you allowed to logon with a larger region size? Even if you are, it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be getting in the way also if using a telnet session. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: # ./rexxstor V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E --- Region requested: 55296K Max Priv Region Region Region Region Reg Size Limit Size In-Use Avail Below 16M: 9192K 6564K 6564K 8K 6556K Above 16M: 1961984K 32768K 32768K 712K 32056K Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT) MEMLIMIT Source: SMF # This is z/OS 1.9 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process is failing. export the path and display # echo $PATH /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin # echo $DISPLAY xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0 # # java -version Error: Port Library failed to initialize Could not create the Java virtual machine. Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message. Has anyone seen this message before? Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the shell / environment you are testing under? If you aren't sure or want to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it from the shell you are working with. Mark -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html