Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Vince Getgood
Hi all,

I'm also trying to do this install, and have followed the Read Me up to the 
same point as the original poster, however, I'm, getting a different issue 
(From 
OMVS under TSO - z/os 1.9):-

£ export PATH=/usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:£PATH 
£ export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0  
£ echo £PATH
/usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
£ echo £DISPLAY 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0   
£ java -version 
Ý1¨ + Done(137) java -version   
  83886118  Killed  /usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin/java

I downloaded and ran Mark Zeldens' REXXSTOR, with the following result: -
 
 V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E 
 --- 
 
 
   Region requested: 8192K   
 
 Max Priv Region Region Region Region
 Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
             
Below 16M: 10216K  8256K  8192K88K  8168K
Above 16M:   1927168K131072K131072K   420K130652K
 
Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)

Any thoughts / ideas / suggestions?

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
Vince Getgood wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm also trying to do this install, and have followed the Read Me up to the 
 same point as the original poster, however, I'm, getting a different issue 
 (From 
 OMVS under TSO - z/os 1.9):-

 £ export PATH=/usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:£PATH 
 £ export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0  
 £ echo £PATH
 /usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
 £ echo £DISPLAY 
 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0   
 £ java -version 
 Ý1¨ + Done(137) java -version   
   83886118  Killed  /usr/lpp/java/Jv.r{_64}/J6.0_64/bin/java

 I downloaded and ran Mark Zeldens' REXXSTOR, with the following result: -
  
  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E 
  --- 
  
  
Region requested: 8192K   
  
  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M: 10216K  8256K  8192K88K  8168K
 Above 16M:   1927168K131072K131072K   420K130652K
  
 Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)

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Memlimit cannot be 0M for the 64Bbit JDK.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs
 
 Vince Getgood wrote:
  . . .
 
  Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 
  Any thoughts / ideas / suggestions?
 
 Memlimit cannot be 0M for the 64Bbit JDK.

Indeed, unlike REGION=0M which requests all available 24- and 31-bit
private storage, MEMLIMIT=0M requests that NO above-the-bar storage be
made available.  To get behavior equivalent to REGION=0M you need to
specify MEMLIMIT=NOLIMIT.  And if you don't specify an installation
default MEMLIMIT (SMFPRMxx, IEFUSI, etc.), you get NOTHING above the
bar.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:46:06 -0500, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs

 Vince Getgood wrote:
  . . .
 
  Above 2G : 0M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 
  Any thoughts / ideas / suggestions?

 Memlimit cannot be 0M for the 64Bbit JDK.

Indeed, unlike REGION=0M which requests all available 24- and 31-bit
private storage, MEMLIMIT=0M requests that NO above-the-bar storage be
made available.  To get behavior equivalent to REGION=0M you need to
specify MEMLIMIT=NOLIMIT.  And if you don't specify an installation
default MEMLIMIT (SMFPRMxx, IEFUSI, etc.), you get NOTHING above the
bar.


Not entirely true.   REGION=0M can get you 64-bit MEMLIMIT.  It's all very
confusing,  but this APAR for z/OS 1.7 and z/OS 1.8 explains the 
behavior as of z/OS 1.9:


  APAR Identifier .. OA14391  Last Changed  06/07/20
  DEFAULT MEMLIMIT FOR JOBS STARTED WITH REGION=0 THAT HAVE REGION
   SUBSEQUENTLY LIMITED BY IEFUSI.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Vince Getgood
Don't you just LOVE consistency?

As I'm working in a test LPAR, I changed SMFPRMxx to MEMLIMIT=1T, and 
now Marks rexx now shows: -

  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E 
  --- 
  
  
Region requested: 8192K   
  
  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M: 10216K  8256K  8192K92K  8164K
 Above 16M:   1927168K131072K131072K   420K130652K
  
 Above 2G :32M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)  
 MEMLIMIT Source: IEFUSI

So IEFUSI is getting in the mix.  Now when I do the java -version, I get: -

JIT: fatal error, failed to allocate 8192 Kb data cache  
JVMJ9VM015W Initialization error for library j9jit24(11): cannot initialize JIT
Could not create the Java virtual machine.

However, java -fullversion gives: -

£ java -fullversion  
java full version JRE 1.6.0 IBM z/OS build pmz6460sr4-20090219_01 (SR4)

I think this is still a Virtual memoery issue, and I'm being limited by IEFUSI.

Any way around this without changing IEFUSI?


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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:22:52 -0500, Vince Getgood
vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote:

Don't you just LOVE consistency?

As I'm working in a test LPAR, I changed SMFPRMxx to MEMLIMIT=1T, and
now Marks rexx now shows: -

  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
  ---


Region requested: 8192K

  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M: 10216K  8256K  8192K92K  8164K
 Above 16M:   1927168K131072K131072K   420K130652K

 Above 2G :32M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 MEMLIMIT Source: IEFUSI

So IEFUSI is getting in the mix.  Now when I do the java -version, I get: -

JIT: fatal error, failed to allocate 8192 Kb data cache
JVMJ9VM015W Initialization error for library j9jit24(11): cannot initialize JIT
Could not create the Java virtual machine.

However, java -fullversion gives: -

£ java -fullversion
java full version JRE 1.6.0 IBM z/OS build pmz6460sr4-20090219_01 (SR4)

I think this is still a Virtual memoery issue, and I'm being limited by IEFUSI.

Any way around this without changing IEFUSI?



You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...) 
and leave out IEFUSI.  Then SET SMF=xx.

This is what is recommended anyway.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Kirk Wolf
This is somewhat off-topic, but if you don't have memory constraint issues
in your Java apps  ( 1.5GB heap), you are probably better off running the
31-bit version of Java 6.

Kirk Wolf
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Vince Getgood
You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...) 
and leave out IEFUSI.  Then SET SMF=xx.

In the SMFPRM that I'm using, I have: -

SUBSYS(OMVS,NOTYPE(4,5,19,20,40,62,63,65:69,99)
   NOEXITS,INTERVAL(01),DETAIL)

So IEFUSI isn't affecting OMVS, right?

Shouldn't I be putting SUBSYS(TSO,EXITS(,)) instead?

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:53:04 -0500, Vince Getgood
vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote:

You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...)
and leave out IEFUSI.  Then SET SMF=xx.

In the SMFPRM that I'm using, I have: -

SUBSYS(OMVS,NOTYPE(4,5,19,20,40,62,63,65:69,99)
   NOEXITS,INTERVAL(01),DETAIL)

So IEFUSI isn't affecting OMVS, right?

Shouldn't I be putting SUBSYS(TSO,EXITS(,)) instead?



Sorry, since you are using TSO OMVS, then that is where IEFUSI is
getting control.  

If you have it configured, telnet directly into z/OS Unix and try
it (I have z/OS Unix telnet set up for port 623).

Otherwise, either exclude your exit from TSO or modify it.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Barkow, Eileen
we had the same java 'fatal' storage error for almost a year when we first went 
to z/os 1.9. It happened with all releases of java - 1.4, 1.5, 1.6.
No one seemed to know how to fix it although I suspected that IEFUSI was the 
cause, I could not prove it to those responsible for the exit.
And we looked at all the other parms, MEMLIMIT, BPX MAXXASIZE, RACF SIZEAMAX 
(or something like it).

I was told by IBM support center to just limit the amount of virtual storage 
that java uses in the  IBM_JAVA_OPTIONS=-Xmxnn  profile options, which 
circumvented the error.
A few months ago, the 'fatal' error disappeared and I see that IEFUSI is not in 
the SMF SUBSYS parm.

Was the IEFUSI specification in SMFPRM the only thing that caused the error? 
Why was a SMF setting responsible for the java error in the first place?
I reported this problem to the OMVS list and no one mentioned SMF.

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Subject: Re: Java V6 install problem

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:22:52 -0500, Vince Getgood
vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote:

Don't you just LOVE consistency?

As I'm working in a test LPAR, I changed SMFPRMxx to MEMLIMIT=1T, and
now Marks rexx now shows: -

  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
  ---


Region requested: 8192K

  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M: 10216K  8256K  8192K92K  8164K
 Above 16M:   1927168K131072K131072K   420K130652K

 Above 2G :32M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 MEMLIMIT Source: IEFUSI

So IEFUSI is getting in the mix.  Now when I do the java -version, I get: -

JIT: fatal error, failed to allocate 8192 Kb data cache
JVMJ9VM015W Initialization error for library j9jit24(11): cannot initialize JIT
Could not create the Java virtual machine.

However, java -fullversion gives: -

£ java -fullversion
java full version JRE 1.6.0 IBM z/OS build pmz6460sr4-20090219_01 (SR4)

I think this is still a Virtual memoery issue, and I'm being limited by IEFUSI.

Any way around this without changing IEFUSI?



You can change your SMFPRMxx to include SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(...,...) 
and leave out IEFUSI.  Then SET SMF=xx.

This is what is recommended anyway.

Mark
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Kirk Wolf
FWIW, if you run java via the JZOS Batch launcher with the LOGLVL='+D'
option, it will print out the requested vs actual
below-line/above-line/above-bar storage from the LDA.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:34:52 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

FWIW, if you run java via the JZOS Batch launcher with the LOGLVL='+D'
option, it will print out the requested vs actual
below-line/above-line/above-bar storage from the LDA.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies

In which case IEFUSI (SYS.IEFUSI) will still be in effect, but you can
easily add MEMLIMIT= to your JCL (but IEFUSI can still override it).

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-28 Thread Timothy Sipples
I realize this is apples versus oranges, but here's a comparison between
JDK and JRE sizes on another platform (using file download sizes):

Sun Java SE Development Kit 6 Update 13 for 64-bit X86 Linux (RPM bin):
72.51MB
Sun Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 13 for 64-bit X86 Linux (RPM bin):
18.20MB

Difference = 54.31MB
Disk Resident Difference = something more (not hugely more) than 54.31MB
Memory and CPU Resource Consumption Difference (for runtime function) =
zero

In other words, yes, the JDK consumes more disk space compared to the JRE.
But that's the only difference (if you're using only the runtime
functions). And some tens of megabytes isn't all that big nowadays -- we
live in a world with different (progressively higher) constraints. Also, if
IBM only distributes the JDK, that simplifies maintenance and support for
both IBM and field installations. Maintenance/support costs are non-zero --
and (one assumes) easily outweigh the disk space difference. Also, many
mainframe customers insist on (re)compiling from source directly on the
mainframe as part of their code deployment and governance requirements --
mainframe-class security practices and all. This is probably common enough
that a JDK-only packaging strategy for z/OS makes even more sense.
[Basically the ratio of JDK-function users to JRE-only function users is
much higher on z/OS than it would be on, say, Microsoft Windows. You're not
likely only needing a Web browser Java plug-in for z/OS. :-)]

Also, there are advantages to cutting down on packaging variations to
benefit areas like software product testing. Vendors don't have to worry
about JRE versus JDK, and they can rely on the JDK being present for steps
like installation scripts, ongoing product patching and maintenance
service, etc. They can also rely on the fact that javac is always available
in any situation, without having to complicate disaster recovery planning,
for example. (Hey, where is javac so I can patch that Java program and
keep my business running) Said another way, the JDK is the JRE in
certain respects on z/OS -- it's a more appropriate lowest common
denominator for z/OS software vendors.

Yet another difference is that there are already two JDKs distributed for
z/OS for each JDK version: 31-bit and 64-bit. IBM could change its mind and
combine the JDK packaging into a single distribution containing both 31-bit
and 64-bit JDKs. Might even be a good idea. But that would increase disk
space requirements for 31-bit only or 64-bit only users. So you might be
saving disk space already, just in another way. :-)

If the disk space remains a concern, in principle you could delete
unnecessary zFS (or HFS) files. I don't recommend that, but it can be done.
You could run an in-house post-installation job to do that. Is it worth it,
though?

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Pace
Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE?  I find only the SDK on the IBM site,
and it's way more code than I need or want.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote:

 Good catch... I didn't even notice is said 10M and not 10G.  My default
 is 10G so my mind just saw the 10 and missed the M.

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 On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:26:36 -0500, Peter X. DeFabritus
 pxdef...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Actually, 10M is not much storage above the bar - you might want to
 specify
 at least 2G, the default for z/OS 1.10, if you wanted to try the 64-bit
 version again.
 
 
 On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:31:35 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed
 it
 an installed the 32bit version instead.  That runs just fine.
 
 Thanks for everyone's input.
 
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 wrote:
 
  It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough
 31-bit.
  I
  can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives
  perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only
  have 32M.
 
  How are you executing this?  From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS?  If TSO,
 are
  you allowed to logon with a larger region size?   Even if you are,
  it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could
 be
  getting in the way also if using a telnet session.
 
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  On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  # ./rexxstor
  
   V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
   ---
  
  
 Region requested: 55296K
  
   Max Priv Region Region Region Region
   Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
               
  Below 16M:  9192K  6564K  6564K 8K  6556K
  Above 16M:   1961984K 32768K 32768K   712K 32056K
  
  Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
  MEMLIMIT Source: SMF
  #
  
  This is z/OS 1.9
  
  On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden 
 mark.zel...@zurichna.com
  wrote:
  
   On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification
  process
   is failing.
   
   export the path and display
   # echo $PATH
   /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
   # echo $DISPLAY
   xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
   #
   
   # java -version
   Error: Port Library failed to initialize
   Could not create the Java virtual machine.
   
   Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has
  anyone
   seen this message before?
   
  
   Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you
 under
  the
   shell / environment you are testing under?  If you aren't sure or
 want
   to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it
   from the shell you are working with.
  
   Mark
 
  
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread Brian Peterson
I think the answer is no.

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/software/java/products/

This Web site is the definitive source of information for the z/OS Java
products. It should be consulted for the latest on content, availability and
service levels.

The above site only lists SDK's.  I've never seen a JRE-only for z/OS.

Brian

On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:23:16 -0400, Mark Pace wrote:

Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE?  I find only the SDK on the IBM site,
and it's way more code than I need or want.


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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread John McKown
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Mark Pace wrote:

 Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE?  I find only the SDK on the IBM site,
 and it's way more code than I need or want.
 

I'm curious as to why? It's not as if the JRE were any freer. I've never
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Pace
Because the SDK is HUGE with allow the documentation, sample apps, etc...
The JRE usually is much smaller.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote:

 On Wed, 27 May 2009, Mark Pace wrote:

  Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE?  I find only the SDK on the IBM
 site,
  and it's way more code than I need or want.
 

 I'm curious as to why? It's not as if the JRE were any freer. I've never
 seen only the JRE packaged for z/OS.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

z/OS 1.6 was the first release  with 64 bit support.
We have never used
Our actual version is  z/OS 1.9, but starting  from bin:

MV19:/u/java/J6.0_64/binÄ272Ü:java -version
java version 1.6.0
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz6460sr1-20080416_01(SR1))
IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390x-64 
jvmmz6460-20080415_18762 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)

J9VM - 20080415_018762_BHdSMr
JIT  - r9_20080415_1520
GC   - 20080415_AA)
JCL  - 20080412_01




Mark Pace wrote:


I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process
is failing.

export the path and display
# echo $PATH
/usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
# echo $DISPLAY
xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
#

# java -version
Error: Port Library failed to initialize
Could not create the Java virtual machine.

Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has anyone
seen this message before?

 



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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
How big is your region?

Larry Gray 
Large Systems Engineering 
Lowe's Companies 
704-758-5337 

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Subject: Java V6 install problem

I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process
is failing.

export the path and display
# echo $PATH
/usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
# echo $DISPLAY
xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
#

# java -version
Error: Port Library failed to initialize
Could not create the Java virtual machine.

Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has anyone
seen this message before?

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process
is failing.

export the path and display
# echo $PATH
/usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
# echo $DISPLAY
xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
#

# java -version
Error: Port Library failed to initialize
Could not create the Java virtual machine.

Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has anyone
seen this message before?


Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the 
shell / environment you are testing under?  If you aren't sure or want
to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it
from the shell you are working with.

Mark
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Pace
# ./rexxstor

 V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
 ---


   Region requested: 55296K

 Max Priv Region Region Region Region
 Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
             
Below 16M:  9192K  6564K  6564K 8K  6556K
Above 16M:   1961984K 32768K 32768K   712K 32056K

Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
MEMLIMIT Source: SMF
#

This is z/OS 1.9

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote:

 On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process
 is failing.
 
 export the path and display
 # echo $PATH
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
 # echo $DISPLAY
 xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
 #
 
 # java -version
 Error: Port Library failed to initialize
 Could not create the Java virtual machine.
 
 Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has anyone
 seen this message before?
 

 Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the
 shell / environment you are testing under?  If you aren't sure or want
 to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it
 from the shell you are working with.

 Mark
 --
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 Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
 Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
 mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 z/OS Systems Programming expert at
 http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
 Mark's MVS Utilities: 
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace
 
 # ./rexxstor
 
  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
  ---
 
 
Region requested: 55296K
 
  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M:  9192K  6564K  6564K 8K  6556K
 Above 16M:   1961984K 32768K 32768K   712K 32056K
 
 Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 MEMLIMIT Source: SMF
 #
 
 This is z/OS 1.9

The smallest region size in which I've ever been able to run java
-version is 128M.

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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Zelden
It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit.   I
can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives
perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only
have 32M.  

How are you executing this?  From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS?  If TSO, are
you allowed to logon with a larger region size?   Even if you are,
it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be
getting in the way also if using a telnet session.

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On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

# ./rexxstor

 V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
 ---


   Region requested: 55296K

 Max Priv Region Region Region Region
 Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
             
Below 16M:  9192K  6564K  6564K 8K  6556K
Above 16M:   1961984K 32768K 32768K   712K 32056K

Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
MEMLIMIT Source: SMF
#

This is z/OS 1.9

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote:

 On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification process
 is failing.
 
 export the path and display
 # echo $PATH
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
 # echo $DISPLAY
 xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
 #
 
 # java -version
 Error: Port Library failed to initialize
 Could not create the Java virtual machine.
 
 Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has anyone
 seen this message before?
 

 Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under the
 shell / environment you are testing under?  If you aren't sure or want
 to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it
 from the shell you are working with.

 Mark


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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Pace
I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed it
an installed the 32bit version instead.  That runs just fine.

Thanks for everyone's input.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote:

 It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit.
 I
 can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives
 perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only
 have 32M.

 How are you executing this?  From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS?  If TSO, are
 you allowed to logon with a larger region size?   Even if you are,
 it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be
 getting in the way also if using a telnet session.

 Mark
 --
 Mark Zelden
 Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
 Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
 mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 z/OS Systems Programming expert at
 http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
 Mark's MVS Utilities: 
 http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html


 On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

 # ./rexxstor
 
  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
  ---
 
 
Region requested: 55296K
 
  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M:  9192K  6564K  6564K 8K  6556K
 Above 16M:   1961984K 32768K 32768K   712K 32056K
 
 Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 MEMLIMIT Source: SMF
 #
 
 This is z/OS 1.9
 
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification
 process
  is failing.
  
  export the path and display
  # echo $PATH
  /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
  # echo $DISPLAY
  xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
  #
  
  # java -version
  Error: Port Library failed to initialize
  Could not create the Java virtual machine.
  
  Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has
 anyone
  seen this message before?
  
 
  Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under
 the
  shell / environment you are testing under?  If you aren't sure or want
  to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it
  from the shell you are working with.
 
  Mark

 
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 Mainline Information Systems
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Peter X. DeFabritus
Actually, 10M is not much storage above the bar - you might want to specify
at least 2G, the default for z/OS 1.10, if you wanted to try the 64-bit
version again.


On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:31:35 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed it
an installed the 32bit version instead.  That runs just fine.

Thanks for everyone's input.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote:

 It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit.
 I
 can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives
 perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only
 have 32M.

 How are you executing this?  From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS?  If TSO, are
 you allowed to logon with a larger region size?   Even if you are,
 it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be
 getting in the way also if using a telnet session.

 Mark
 --
 Mark Zelden
 Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
 Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
 mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 z/OS Systems Programming expert at
 http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
 Mark's MVS Utilities:
http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html


 On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

 # ./rexxstor
 
  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
  ---
 
 
Region requested: 55296K
 
  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M:  9192K  6564K  6564K 8K  6556K
 Above 16M:   1961984K 32768K 32768K   712K 32056K
 
 Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 MEMLIMIT Source: SMF
 #
 
 This is z/OS 1.9
 
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification
 process
  is failing.
  
  export the path and display
  # echo $PATH
  /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
  # echo $DISPLAY
  xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
  #
  
  # java -version
  Error: Port Library failed to initialize
  Could not create the Java virtual machine.
  
  Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has
 anyone
  seen this message before?
  
 
  Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under
 the
  shell / environment you are testing under?  If you aren't sure or want
  to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it
  from the shell you are working with.
 
  Mark

 
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 Mainline Information Systems
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Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Zelden
Good catch... I didn't even notice is said 10M and not 10G.  My default
is 10G so my mind just saw the 10 and missed the M.   

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On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:26:36 -0500, Peter X. DeFabritus
pxdef...@earthlink.net wrote:

Actually, 10M is not much storage above the bar - you might want to specify
at least 2G, the default for z/OS 1.10, if you wanted to try the 64-bit
version again.


On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:31:35 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

I determined that I don't require the 64bit version of JAVA, so removed it
an installed the 32bit version instead.  That runs just fine.

Thanks for everyone's input.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote:

 It looks like you have plenty of 64-bit virtstor, but not enough 31-bit.
 I
 can't recall how much you may need (check the Java doc or archives
 perhaps), but I think you need at least 64M if not more and you only
 have 32M.

 How are you executing this?  From TSO OMVS, telnet into OMVS?  If TSO, are
 you allowed to logon with a larger region size?   Even if you are,
 it's possible IEFUSI is getting in the way or BPXPRMxx MAXASSIZE could be
 getting in the way also if using a telnet session.

 Mark
 --
 Mark Zelden
 Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
 Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
 mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 z/OS Systems Programming expert at
 http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
 Mark's MVS Utilities:
http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.htmlhttp://home.flash.net/%7Emzelden/mvsutil.html


 On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

 # ./rexxstor
 
  V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E
  ---
 
 
Region requested: 55296K
 
  Max Priv Region Region Region Region
  Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use  Avail
              
 Below 16M:  9192K  6564K  6564K 8K  6556K
 Above 16M:   1961984K 32768K 32768K   712K 32056K
 
 Above 2G :10M (64-bit MEMLIMIT)
 MEMLIMIT Source: SMF
 #
 
 This is z/OS 1.9
 
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:56:13 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I've installed the IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V6 but the verification
 process
  is failing.
  
  export the path and display
  # echo $PATH
  /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin:/bin
  # echo $DISPLAY
  xx.xx.xx.xx:0.0
  #
  
  # java -version
  Error: Port Library failed to initialize
  Could not create the Java virtual machine.
  
  Google doesn't turn up anything useful on that error message.  Has
 anyone
  seen this message before?
  
 
  Do you have (enough) 64-bit storage (MEMLIMIT) available to you under
 the
  shell / environment you are testing under?  If you aren't sure or want
  to check, download the REXXSTOR exec from my web site and execute it
  from the shell you are working with.
 
  Mark

 
 --
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 Mainline Information Systems
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