Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-13 Thread Neil Duffee
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09h10, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
IBM-Main about "SSL Timeout":

> That's for certain.  They all work from their homes.  So different
> ISPs, different routers, Cable, DSL, dial-up, wired, wireless, etc 

Mark:  have the client check their personal DSL modem/firewall 
settings.  I personally have mine set to disconnect from the ISP if 
idle for 17 minutes (I like unusual intervals)  and they may have 
theirs set up in a similar fashion.  The DSL connection is re-
established on the next IP activity.  If I'm gonna be gone from my PC 
for an extended [bathroom] break, I use the &973 command in SDSF to 
press 'Enter' every 15 minutes.

[Why?  I can leave my PC running all day and the firewall only has to 
block IP scans for a limited amount of that time ie. when my e-mail 
gets checked each hour.  Definitely reduces the length of the 
firewall's log.  Have you checked yours at home lately?  *grin*]

> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps the affected folks are traversing a different network path 
using
>> different appliances?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace
>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:42 AM
>>
>> I now believe that it must be a client or end-user network 
problem.
>>
>> Some people using SSL stay connected for 1 hour (TSO time-out - 
S522),
>> and
>> others time-out at 10-15 mins (terminal error - S622).  What's 
confusing
>> is
>> that I had them check their version of PComm and each is using the 
same
>> version (v5.8.0.0). So I can't really find a common demoninator 
between
>> them.
>> [snip]

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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:10 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SSL Timeout
> 
> That's for certain.  They all work from their homes.  So 
> different ISPs,
> different routers, Cable, DSL, dial-up, wired, wireless, etc
> 
> I'm totally confused on how to help them.
> 

This is a problem here, too. People complain "work at home is slow".
Diagnosing this is a royal PITA to the network people. It could be the
local server, or the local network, or our ISP, or the backbone (net
neutrality, anybody?), or their ISP, or their computer.

One thing that I tried to talk management into doing (failed), was to
put up a "Internet connection speed test" on one of our servers
(dedicated, not virtual). Then the person could test their speed with
our internal speed tester and with somebody else's. If the speed tests
were the same, then the problem is likely in our ballpark. If our
results were slower than the other site, then the problem is likely
outside of our control. I guess this was deep 6'ed due to complexity.

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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-13 Thread Mark Pace
That's for certain.  They all work from their homes.  So different ISPs,
different routers, Cable, DSL, dial-up, wired, wireless, etc

I'm totally confused on how to help them.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Perhaps the affected folks are traversing a different network path using
> different appliances?
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mark Pace
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:42 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SSL Timeout
>
> I now believe that it must be a client or end-user network problem.
>
> Some people using SSL stay connected for 1 hour (TSO time-out - S522),
> and
> others time-out at 10-15 mins (terminal error - S622).  What's confusing
> is
> that I had them check their version of PComm and each is using the same
> version (v5.8.0.0). So I can't really find a common demoninator between
> them.
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Mansell, George R.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Obey.
> > My settings:
> >
> > TelnetParms
> >  Port 23
> >  CodePage ISO8859-1 IBM-1047
> >  PrtInactive 0
> >INACTIVE 2400
> >TIMEMARK  900
> >SCANINTERVAL  900
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Mark Pace
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: SSL Timeout
> >
> > Well that didn't work.  And I had the firewall guy check his settings.
> > He
> > specifically raised the time-out value on that port to 1 hour. No
> > difference, 10 mins, connection dies - S622.
> >
> > I wonder if the TIMEMARK and the other setting can be changed via OBEY
> > or if
> > I need to restart the TN3270 server.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > When I saw the defaults in the manual I thought so also.  I've
> raised
> > the
> > > time-out values to the default and I'm waiting on the person with
> the
> > issue
> > > to report back to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Mansell, George R.
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Our firewall inactive timeout is 1 hour. When it happened it was
> > nasty;
> > >> Tcpip & Vtam resources were not recovered. We have Tcpip inactive
> set
> > to
> > >> timeout just before the firewall does. Your 10 minutes sounds
> awfully
> > >> short.
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > >> Behalf Of Mark Pace
> > >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:52 AM
> > >> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> > >> Subject: SSL Timeout
> > >>
> > >> Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
> > >> TN3270
> > >> session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270
> sessions
> > to
> > >> SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
> > >> After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
> > >> disconnected
> > >> from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal error).
> > Our
> > >> TSO
> > >> timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was having this
> > problem
> > >> so I
> > >> thought this was probably a coincidence since that user had
> tornadoes
> > in
> > >> his
> > >> area and some damage to his home.  So I had him revert to standard
> > >> TELNET.
> > >> 1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).
> > I'm
> > >> still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to
> stand
> > >> on.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using
> > SSL/TLS
> > >> and
> > >> not standard telnet?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Mark Pace
> > >> Mainline Information Systems
> > >>
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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-12 Thread Hal Merritt
Perhaps the affected folks are traversing a different network path using
different appliances?   




-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Pace
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SSL Timeout

I now believe that it must be a client or end-user network problem.

Some people using SSL stay connected for 1 hour (TSO time-out - S522),
and
others time-out at 10-15 mins (terminal error - S622).  What's confusing
is
that I had them check their version of PComm and each is using the same
version (v5.8.0.0). So I can't really find a common demoninator between
them.

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Mansell, George R.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Obey.
> My settings:
>
> TelnetParms
>  Port 23
>  CodePage ISO8859-1 IBM-1047
>  PrtInactive 0
>INACTIVE 2400
>TIMEMARK  900
>SCANINTERVAL  900
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mark Pace
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SSL Timeout
>
> Well that didn't work.  And I had the firewall guy check his settings.
> He
> specifically raised the time-out value on that port to 1 hour. No
> difference, 10 mins, connection dies - S622.
>
> I wonder if the TIMEMARK and the other setting can be changed via OBEY
> or if
> I need to restart the TN3270 server.
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > When I saw the defaults in the manual I thought so also.  I've
raised
> the
> > time-out values to the default and I'm waiting on the person with
the
> issue
> > to report back to me.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Mansell, George R.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Our firewall inactive timeout is 1 hour. When it happened it was
> nasty;
> >> Tcpip & Vtam resources were not recovered. We have Tcpip inactive
set
> to
> >> timeout just before the firewall does. Your 10 minutes sounds
awfully
> >> short.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> >> Behalf Of Mark Pace
> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:52 AM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: SSL Timeout
> >>
> >> Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
> >> TN3270
> >> session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270
sessions
> to
> >> SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
> >> After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
> >> disconnected
> >> from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal error).
> Our
> >> TSO
> >> timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was having this
> problem
> >> so I
> >> thought this was probably a coincidence since that user had
tornadoes
> in
> >> his
> >> area and some damage to his home.  So I had him revert to standard
> >> TELNET.
> >> 1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).
> I'm
> >> still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to
stand
> >> on.
> >>
> >> Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using
> SSL/TLS
> >> and
> >> not standard telnet?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Pace
> >> Mainline Information Systems
> >>
> >>
> --
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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-12 Thread Mark Pace
I now believe that it must be a client or end-user network problem.

Some people using SSL stay connected for 1 hour (TSO time-out - S522), and
others time-out at 10-15 mins (terminal error - S622).  What's confusing is
that I had them check their version of PComm and each is using the same
version (v5.8.0.0). So I can't really find a common demoninator between
them.

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Mansell, George R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Obey.
> My settings:
>
> TelnetParms
>  Port 23
>  CodePage ISO8859-1 IBM-1047
>  PrtInactive 0
>INACTIVE 2400
>TIMEMARK  900
>SCANINTERVAL  900
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mark Pace
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SSL Timeout
>
> Well that didn't work.  And I had the firewall guy check his settings.
> He
> specifically raised the time-out value on that port to 1 hour. No
> difference, 10 mins, connection dies - S622.
>
> I wonder if the TIMEMARK and the other setting can be changed via OBEY
> or if
> I need to restart the TN3270 server.
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > When I saw the defaults in the manual I thought so also.  I've raised
> the
> > time-out values to the default and I'm waiting on the person with the
> issue
> > to report back to me.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Mansell, George R.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Our firewall inactive timeout is 1 hour. When it happened it was
> nasty;
> >> Tcpip & Vtam resources were not recovered. We have Tcpip inactive set
> to
> >> timeout just before the firewall does. Your 10 minutes sounds awfully
> >> short.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Mark Pace
> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:52 AM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: SSL Timeout
> >>
> >> Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
> >> TN3270
> >> session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270 sessions
> to
> >> SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
> >> After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
> >> disconnected
> >> from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal error).
> Our
> >> TSO
> >> timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was having this
> problem
> >> so I
> >> thought this was probably a coincidence since that user had tornadoes
> in
> >> his
> >> area and some damage to his home.  So I had him revert to standard
> >> TELNET.
> >> 1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).
> I'm
> >> still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to stand
> >> on.
> >>
> >> Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using
> SSL/TLS
> >> and
> >> not standard telnet?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Pace
> >> Mainline Information Systems
> >>
> >>
> --
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> >> send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN
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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-11 Thread Mansell, George R.
Obey.
My settings:

TelnetParms   
  Port 23 
  CodePage ISO8859-1 IBM-1047 
  PrtInactive 0   
INACTIVE 2400 
TIMEMARK  900 
SCANINTERVAL  900 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Pace
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SSL Timeout

Well that didn't work.  And I had the firewall guy check his settings.
He
specifically raised the time-out value on that port to 1 hour. No
difference, 10 mins, connection dies - S622.

I wonder if the TIMEMARK and the other setting can be changed via OBEY
or if
I need to restart the TN3270 server.

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When I saw the defaults in the manual I thought so also.  I've raised
the
> time-out values to the default and I'm waiting on the person with the
issue
> to report back to me.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Mansell, George R.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Our firewall inactive timeout is 1 hour. When it happened it was
nasty;
>> Tcpip & Vtam resources were not recovered. We have Tcpip inactive set
to
>> timeout just before the firewall does. Your 10 minutes sounds awfully
>> short.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Mark Pace
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:52 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>> Subject: SSL Timeout
>>
>> Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
>> TN3270
>> session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270 sessions
to
>> SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
>> After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
>> disconnected
>> from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal error).
Our
>> TSO
>> timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was having this
problem
>> so I
>> thought this was probably a coincidence since that user had tornadoes
in
>> his
>> area and some damage to his home.  So I had him revert to standard
>> TELNET.
>> 1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).
I'm
>> still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to stand
>> on.
>>
>> Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using
SSL/TLS
>> and
>> not standard telnet?
>>
>> --
>> Mark Pace
>> Mainline Information Systems
>>
>>
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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-11 Thread Mark Pace
Well that didn't work.  And I had the firewall guy check his settings.  He
specifically raised the time-out value on that port to 1 hour. No
difference, 10 mins, connection dies - S622.

I wonder if the TIMEMARK and the other setting can be changed via OBEY or if
I need to restart the TN3270 server.

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When I saw the defaults in the manual I thought so also.  I've raised the
> time-out values to the default and I'm waiting on the person with the issue
> to report back to me.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Mansell, George R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Our firewall inactive timeout is 1 hour. When it happened it was nasty;
>> Tcpip & Vtam resources were not recovered. We have Tcpip inactive set to
>> timeout just before the firewall does. Your 10 minutes sounds awfully
>> short.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Mark Pace
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:52 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>> Subject: SSL Timeout
>>
>> Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
>> TN3270
>> session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270 sessions to
>> SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
>> After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
>> disconnected
>> from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal error).  Our
>> TSO
>> timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was having this problem
>> so I
>> thought this was probably a coincidence since that user had tornadoes in
>> his
>> area and some damage to his home.  So I had him revert to standard
>> TELNET.
>> 1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).  I'm
>> still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to stand
>> on.
>>
>> Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using SSL/TLS
>> and
>> not standard telnet?
>>
>> --
>> Mark Pace
>> Mainline Information Systems
>>
>> --
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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-09 Thread Mark Pace
When I saw the defaults in the manual I thought so also.  I've raised the
time-out values to the default and I'm waiting on the person with the issue
to report back to me.

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Mansell, George R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Our firewall inactive timeout is 1 hour. When it happened it was nasty;
> Tcpip & Vtam resources were not recovered. We have Tcpip inactive set to
> timeout just before the firewall does. Your 10 minutes sounds awfully
> short.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mark Pace
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:52 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: SSL Timeout
>
> Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
> TN3270
> session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270 sessions to
> SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
> After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
> disconnected
> from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal error).  Our
> TSO
> timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was having this problem
> so I
> thought this was probably a coincidence since that user had tornadoes in
> his
> area and some damage to his home.  So I had him revert to standard
> TELNET.
> 1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).  I'm
> still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to stand
> on.
>
> Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using SSL/TLS
> and
> not standard telnet?
>
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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-09 Thread Mansell, George R.
Our firewall inactive timeout is 1 hour. When it happened it was nasty;
Tcpip & Vtam resources were not recovered. We have Tcpip inactive set to
timeout just before the firewall does. Your 10 minutes sounds awfully
short.  

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Subject: SSL Timeout

Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
TN3270
session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270 sessions to
SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
disconnected
from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal error).  Our
TSO
timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was having this problem
so I
thought this was probably a coincidence since that user had tornadoes in
his
area and some damage to his home.  So I had him revert to standard
TELNET.
1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).  I'm
still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to stand
on.

Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using SSL/TLS
and
not standard telnet?

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Re: SSL Timeout

2008-06-09 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
We had similar problems with one client using Zephyr's product PassPort.
After doing a log of debugging we determined that it might be the
firewall problem.  It seemed the timing mark request was not getting
thought so tcpip thought the connection was broke.  That fixed the
problem somewhat.  We then found out that if the user did not have any
activity the firewall would time them out.  We could not get that
changed so we had to shorten the scaninterval and timemark settings to
force some activity to keep things alive.  Things are now working to the
best of my knowledge. 


Brad Wissink
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
515-294-3088

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SSL Timeout

Is there a parameter somewhere that will time-out an SSL connected
TN3270 session?  I've just converted our users from standard TN3270
sessions to SSL/TLS TN3270 sessions.  All users are using PCOMM.
After converting, one user has called me and says that he gets
disconnected from the system after about 10 mins with a S622 (terminal
error).  Our TSO timeout in JWT is set to 1 hour. No other user was
having this problem so I thought this was probably a coincidence since
that user had tornadoes in his area and some damage to his home.  So I
had him revert to standard TELNET.
1 hour later he timed out with a S522 (TSO time-out value reached).  I'm
still convinced it's a network issue, but I don't have a leg to stand
on.

Anyone have an idea why a user might get disconnected when using SSL/TLS
and not standard telnet?

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Mainline Information Systems

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