Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Frank Lawrence
We are in the process of writing a support model for Linux on System z that 
describes who in the IT organization will do what things from provisioning to 
problem diagnostics. 

Has anyone else attempted to address this; and more specifically, willing to 
share it or maybe portions of it?  I am most curious as to whether 
organizations are attempting to incorporate their Unix/AIX support folks into 
the mix or maybe training only their z/OS folks to do both z/VM and Linux.

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Re: Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Mark Post
 On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at  2:20 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Lawrence
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 We are in the process of writing a support model for Linux on System z that 
 describes who in the IT organization will do what things from provisioning 
 to problem diagnostics. 
 
 Has anyone else attempted to address this; and more specifically, willing to 
 share it or maybe portions of it?  I am most curious as to whether 
 organizations are attempting to incorporate their Unix/AIX support folks 
 into the mix or maybe training only their z/OS folks to do both z/VM and 
 Linux.

I've seen people go both ways.  Some are being more rigid about it than others. 
 In the various sessions I give at SHARE, WAVV, and System z Expo, I recommend 
that if you have in-house UNIX/Linux expertise (and not just in system 
administration, but security and so on), that you work together with them.  And 
not just you do this, we'll do that, but actually work together.  
Cross-discipline knowledge transfer generates a number of benefits, greater 
teamwork among them.  When you're working in a really complex environment, 
involving mainframe hardware, z/OS, z/VM, and Linux, I don't think any one 
group is going to be able to work effectively in isolation.


Mark Post

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Re: Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Frank Lawrence
Thanks, Mark.

In those situations where folks are working together as a cooperative team, 
can you comment on what kind of maintenance strategy they have adopted?  
More specifically, have they tried to adopt an aggreesive preventative 
program or have they only deployed fixes on servers where specific problems 
have surfaced? 

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Re: Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Frank - our approach is that the mainframe support team will add z/VM 
support to their existing z/OS responsibilities along with bringing in one 
new sysprog with z/vm experience. The aix/unix team wasn't interested as 
they were already overworked and understaffed so we've created a new linux 
team. for system level security the support teams (mainframe and linux) 
will be responsible as only sysprogs/sysadmins will have direct access. 
User access will be at the application level and will continue to be 
controlled by our security team. 

For provisioning a new guest it will be a combined effort with the 
mainframe team responsible for the actual provisioning (using Rocket 
Software's Provisioning Expert for Linux aka PEL) with the Linux team 
supporting and maintaining the PEL base systems that are the basis for the 
cloning. During operation, should issues arise, the respective teams will 
provide support as appropriate. 

The mainframe team is responsible for the storage which is still FICON 
attached (no plans for fibre at this time) at least from the storage 
subsystem perspective. We are using Dirmaint for the allocation of space 
management and for backup our plans are to use FDR/UpStream at the Linux 
file system level and using FlashCopy combined with z/OS DF/DSS for the 
entire volume pool. 

For overall capacity and performance out existing performance and capacity 
team is involved (using Velocity Softwares ESALPS). We are also using the 
ESALPS to generate alerts based upon various performance indicators that 
it monitors with the alerts going into our normal Tivoli Enterprise 
Console alert system and then off to our problem tracking system. 

hope this helps

Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist 
Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering 
KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 
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