Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote in message news:a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED Yes, some of the descriptions leave a little bit to be desired. I like to try to stay away from capping unless absolutely necessary but do have some. Maybe there was an entry in the notes file in WLM stating why that Service Class was resource capped? I try to keep up with documentation, even for myself, as I find going back I'm asking myself sometimes why I did what I did. I have Mainview, what was the screen name that you saw this in? Wish I could remember. I can't seem to find it again sigh. -- John McKown It's the WMJDLAY view. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
There is a field in Mainview for z/OS which shows me that a slow running job was delayed to CPUCAP. Does anybody really know exactly what that means? We are using Group Capacity to control our software costs. Is this PRSM and WLM working together to cap the LPAR? Or is this just some WLM delay due to another job in the same service class getting all the allowed CPU? This service class in NOT in a Resource Group. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
You probably have discretionary defined and the service class this job is running in is over achieving, has a velocity of less than 30 or a response time goal over 1 min. and is itself not resource capped and ends up giving resources to discretionary but keeps the PI of the giver between 0.71 and 0.81. This is in SG24-6472-03 Systems Programmers Guide to WLM. --- On Tue, 9/22/09, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Subject: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:00 PM There is a field in Mainview for z/OS which shows me that a slow running job was delayed to CPUCAP. Does anybody really know exactly what that means? We are using Group Capacity to control our software costs. Is this PRSM and WLM working together to cap the LPAR? Or is this just some WLM delay due to another job in the same service class getting all the allowed CPU? This service class in NOT in a Resource Group. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
John, From what you're saying you have Group Capacity set up with a softcap. Is that correct? We don't have Mainview here, but I would surmise that the four hour rolling average has reached the level of the softcap. At that point WLM will not allow the system to use any CPU over the limit set by the softcap. What you're seeing is that the job is slow running because of that. Once the 4HRA goes below the softcap again that problem will go away. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED There is a field in Mainview for z/OS which shows me that a slow running job was delayed to CPUCAP. Does anybody really know exactly what that means? We are using Group Capacity to control our software costs. Is this PRSM and WLM working together to cap the LPAR? Or is this just some WLM delay due to another job in the same service class getting all the allowed CPU? This service class in NOT in a Resource Group. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
Hmmm, you're probably right. John, go to the field descriptor and hit PF1 and you should get the description for the field. --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: From: Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com Subject: Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:56 PM John, From what you're saying you have Group Capacity set up with a softcap. Is that correct? We don't have Mainview here, but I would surmise that the four hour rolling average has reached the level of the softcap. At that point WLM will not allow the system to use any CPU over the limit set by the softcap. What you're seeing is that the job is slow running because of that. Once the 4HRA goes below the softcap again that problem will go away. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED There is a field in Mainview for z/OS which shows me that a slow running job was delayed to CPUCAP. Does anybody really know exactly what that means? We are using Group Capacity to control our software costs. Is this PRSM and WLM working together to cap the LPAR? Or is this just some WLM delay due to another job in the same service class getting all the allowed CPU? This service class in NOT in a Resource Group. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED Hmmm, you're probably right. John, go to the field descriptor and hit PF1 and you should get the description for the field. Unfortunately, I didn't understand the description. However I did find out that the storage class does indeed have an associated resource group. So that is likely what the capping is referring to. I have no idea why we did this. And we just removed it. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 . N. Richland Hills . TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone . (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com . www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
Yes, some of the descriptions leave a little bit to be desired. I like to try to stay away from capping unless absolutely necessary but do have some. Maybe there was an entry in the notes file in WLM stating why that Service Class was resource capped? I try to keep up with documentation, even for myself, as I find going back I'm asking myself sometimes why I did what I did. I have Mainview, what was the screen name that you saw this in? --- On Tue, 9/22/09, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Subject: Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:09 PM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED Hmmm, you're probably right. John, go to the field descriptor and hit PF1 and you should get the description for the field. Unfortunately, I didn't understand the description. However I did find out that the storage class does indeed have an associated resource group. So that is likely what the capping is referring to. I have no idea why we did this. And we just removed it. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 . N. Richland Hills . TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone . (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com . www.HealthMarkets.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: WLM question - delayed due to CPUCAPPED Yes, some of the descriptions leave a little bit to be desired. I like to try to stay away from capping unless absolutely necessary but do have some. Maybe there was an entry in the notes file in WLM stating why that Service Class was resource capped? I try to keep up with documentation, even for myself, as I find going back I'm asking myself sometimes why I did what I did. I have Mainview, what was the screen name that you saw this in? Wish I could remember. I can't seem to find it again sigh. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 . N. Richland Hills . TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone . (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com . www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
