Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 14:54 +1000, Stephen Mednick wrote: No such restriction exists!!! G'day Steve - 'bout time someone rattled your chain again ... :^) Gotta keep these vendors on their toes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:30:46 -0400 Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : X3010200E = 3380 DISK DEVICE CODE : Where is the table defined? :There is no one table. The basic information is similar, but not :identical to, fields UCBTBYT1-UCBTBYT4 in macro IEFUCBOB. :UCBTBYT3 (the x'20' above) is the device category, DASD in this :case. These are defined in the UCB macro. :UCBTBYT4 (x'0E') is the device type, 3380 in this case. :The leading two bytes are device dependent, and may describe :device characteristics and optional features (e.g., shared :DASD). Some are in the UCB macro, most are not. They're :scattered in documentation all over the place, usually hardware :manuals or application notes. I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Binyamin, My current list of volser values that indicate migrated datasets are : MIGRAT ARCIVE ARCHIV As far as I am aware, there is nothing in the catalog entry to indicate if a dataset is migrated or not - I was under the impression that the HSM_U_Like product gets control for dataset not found situations when the catalog entry is accessed. One handy thing (for HSM anyway - not sure about others) is that the device type in the catalog entry does hint at the migratation level (ie if cat entry device type = DASD and volser=MIGRAT then dataset is on ML1). Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: 27 April 2009 08:00 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:30:46 -0400 Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : X'3010200E' = 3380 DISK DEVICE CODE : Where is the table defined? :There is no one table. The basic information is similar, but not :identical to, fields UCBTBYT1-UCBTBYT4 in macro IEFUCBOB. :UCBTBYT3 (the x'20' above) is the device category, DASD in this :case. These are defined in the UCB macro. :UCBTBYT4 (x'0E') is the device type, 3380 in this case. :The leading two bytes are device dependent, and may describe :device characteristics and optional features (e.g., shared :DASD). Some are in the UCB macro, most are not. They're :scattered in documentation all over the place, usually hardware :manuals or application notes. I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
One could always force a data set to be migrated and then look at what was stored in this metadata field. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715 Email: bi...@mainstar.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
I am pretty sure there is no migration indication in the devicetype field, only the catalogued volser MIGRAT tells you (and others). In CA-DISK I have the option to leave the devicetype of the archived (migrated) dataset to the devicetype of the original volume or to set it to zeros. Kees. Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote in message news:94c476c03bff5e42ac3518fdac9643c4d046bf4...@hqmail.rocketsoftware.c om... One could always force a data set to be migrated and then look at what was stored in this metadata field. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715 Email: bi...@mainstar.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:51:41 -0400 Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: :One could always force a data set to be migrated and then look at what was stored in this metadata field. Unfortunately I do not have access to all products that do migration. :-Original Message- :From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen :Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:00 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? :I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a :migrated dataset. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Binyamin Dissen wrote: I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. Not to my knowledge. For HSM, a migrated data set has serial of MIGRAT, then third byte of x'20' for level 1, and 'x80' for level 2. IIRC, similar information is available from IDCAMS DCOLLECT. Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? I'd love to find out also, but have only had the annoyance of HSM g Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote in message news:49f5b25d.8040...@valley.net... Binyamin Dissen wrote: Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? I'd love to find out also, but have only had the annoyance of HSM g Yes and no. CA-DISK uses ARCIVE as volume in the catalog, but in the catalog locate intercept it returns MIGRAT to the requestor to satisfy those applications, that know and react on HSM migrated datasets. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Hi Guys and Gals, I'm back. Bin... The only other HSM-like product I have experience with is CA-DISK (back before it was CA-DISK... can't even remember the name now offhand). But - at least at the time - used a volser of ARCIVE. I think it is still the same. All the best, Scott T. Harder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]on Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? Binyamin Dissen wrote: I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. Not to my knowledge. For HSM, a migrated data set has serial of MIGRAT, then third byte of x'20' for level 1, and 'x80' for level 2. IIRC, similar information is available from IDCAMS DCOLLECT. Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? I'd love to find out also, but have only had the annoyance of HSM g Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Prices, software, charts analysis. Click here to open your online FX trading account. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYV6oJGSrQm7cOG7ph2CcnHUjfzC72rMjzzkLSGAmtM6VlzCqSbHkk/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
As Gerhard pointed out in an earlier post, the 3rd byte of the 4 bytes of device type info are documented in the UCB macro in the field UCBTBYT3, where X'80' denotes a tape device (which corresponds to HSM level 2) and X'20' denotes a direct access device (which corresponds to HSM level 1). Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715 Email: bi...@mainstar.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? Binyamin Dissen wrote: I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. Not to my knowledge. For HSM, a migrated data set has serial of MIGRAT, then third byte of x'20' for level 1, and 'x80' for level 2. IIRC, similar information is available from IDCAMS DCOLLECT. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:59:51 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? FDR does. Actually, it's ABR. ISTR that this behavior is optional, but I don't recall what is in the VOLSER if the option is not selected. The original VOLSER perhaps. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Originally, they did not. Nowadays, I am not sure. IIRC, ARCIVE was DMS/OS now CA_DISK - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: robert.richa...@opm.gov - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? Binyamin Dissen wrote: I was hoping that there was some bit combination that would indicate a migrated dataset. Not to my knowledge. For HSM, a migrated data set has serial of MIGRAT, then third byte of x'20' for level 1, and 'x80' for level 2. IIRC, similar information is available from IDCAMS DCOLLECT. Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? I'd love to find out also, but have only had the annoyance of HSM g Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
In ABR, this is an option (MIGRAT) that is set in the FDR Global Options. By default, if ABR Archive recatalogs an archived dataset for automatic recall, the catalog entry will retain the original volser unless MIGRAT=YES is specified. This option can be overridden at run time. The Innovation recommended setting is MIGRAT=YES unless the ABR LOCATE exit is not being used. Joseph Butz jb...@fdrinnovation.com Innovation Data Processing -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined? On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:59:51 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? FDR does. Actually, it's ABR. ISTR that this behavior is optional, but I don't recall what is in the VOLSER if the option is not selected. The original VOLSER perhaps. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Tom Marchant wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:59:51 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Do all products (HSM, FDR, etc.) use the string MIGRAT as the VOLSER? FDR does. Actually, it's ABR. ISTR that this behavior is optional, but I don't recall what is in the VOLSER if the option is not selected. The original VOLSER perhaps. Another point to note is that ABR sets the high-order bit on in the DSCB CCHHR field of the catalog entry when the data set is archived and the original volume serial is retained. I do not know if this bit setting occurs or not when the volume serial of MIGRAT is used. I believe that the usual restriction of VTOCs must be in the first 64K cylinders of a volume must therefore become VTOCs must be in the first 32K cylinders of a volume when ABR (without MIGRAT at least) is used to archive data sets. I would guess that all volumes had less than one thousand cylinders when this logic was devised. Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Another point to note is that ABR sets the high-order bit on in the DSCB CCHHR field of the catalog entry when the data set is archived and the original volume serial is retained. No quite correct. ABR records in the field DSCBTTR a pointer to the entry in ABR's Archive Control File. This helps to avoid lengthy searches thru the ACF. I do not know if this bit setting occurs or not when the volume serial of MIGRAT is used. The entry is used to support ABR's Auto-Recall via the ABR Locate Exit. ABR requires the use of the volser MIGRAT when migrating datasets off SMS Managed volumes. I believe that the usual restriction of VTOCs must be in the first 64K cylinders of a volume must therefore become VTOCs must be in the first 32K cylinders of a volume when ABR (without MIGRAT at least) is used to archive data sets. I would guess that all volumes had less than one thousand cylinders when this logic was devised. No such restriction exists!!! Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia Asia/Pacific representatives for Innovation Data Processing, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
For example, X3010200E = 3380 DISK DEVICE CODE Where is the table defined? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Binyamin Dissen wrote: For example, X’3010200E’ = 3380 DISK DEVICE CODE Where is the table defined? You can use the EDTINFO macro to get this. If this is not what you are looking for, can you be more specific. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where are the device codes (returned by LOCATE) defined?
Binyamin Dissen wrote: X’3010200E’ = 3380 DISK DEVICE CODE Where is the table defined? There is no one table. The basic information is similar, but not identical to, fields UCBTBYT1-UCBTBYT4 in macro IEFUCBOB. UCBTBYT3 (the x'20' above) is the device category, DASD in this case. These are defined in the UCB macro. UCBTBYT4 (x'0E') is the device type, 3380 in this case. The leading two bytes are device dependent, and may describe device characteristics and optional features (e.g., shared DASD). Some are in the UCB macro, most are not. They're scattered in documentation all over the place, usually hardware manuals or application notes. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
