Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Well, I'd say: why not? LLA is fully transparent to applications.

Kees.

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Hi,

 

When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the
situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 does
take into consideration LLA managed datasets

Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2

 

thhanks   


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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Micheal Butz
For LLA managed dataset would BLDL 0 return a zero return code.

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 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the
 situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 does
 take into consideration LLA managed datasets
 
 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
 thhanks   
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I don't know, but I wonder why you have reasons to suppose it will be
different for LLA managed libraries.

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For LLA managed dataset would BLDL 0 return a zero return code.

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 Well, I'd say: why not? LLA is fully transparent to applications.
 
 Kees.
 
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 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the

 situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 
 does take into consideration LLA managed datasets
 
 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
 thhanks   
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Micheal Butz
If I have the csvllix1 exit installed
The actual load de= would drive it 
Not the BLDL right ?

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 I don't know, but I wonder why you have reasons to suppose it will be
 different for LLA managed libraries.
 
 Kees.
 
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 For LLA managed dataset would BLDL 0 return a zero return code.
 
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 kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:
 
 Well, I'd say: why not? LLA is fully transparent to applications.
 
 Kees.
 
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 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the
 
 situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 
 does take into consideration LLA managed datasets
 
 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
 thhanks   
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Possibly, but I am not user.

Kees.

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If I have the csvllix1 exit installed
The actual load de= would drive it
Not the BLDL right ?

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 I don't know, but I wonder why you have reasons to suppose it will be 
 different for LLA managed libraries.
 
 Kees.
 
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 For LLA managed dataset would BLDL 0 return a zero return code.
 
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 kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:
 
 Well, I'd say: why not? LLA is fully transparent to applications.
 
 Kees.
 
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 Subject: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is 
 the
 
 situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 
 does take into consideration LLA managed datasets
 
 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
 thhanks   
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Rob Scott
CSVLLIX1 and 2 are not invoked for BLDL 

The services that drive CSVLLIX1 are LINK, LOAD, XCTL and ATTACH.

CSVLLIX2 is driven by a desire by LLA to perform staging functions for the 
module.

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Subject: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

Hi,

 

When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the 
situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 does take 
into consideration LLA managed datasets

Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2

 

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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Micheal Butz
There are but settings In the user area
Mapped by ihapds macro indicating where the module came from I wonder what the 
setting would be
For a LLA manages dataset 

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 CSVLLIX1 and 2 are not invoked for BLDL 
 
 The services that drive CSVLLIX1 are LINK, LOAD, XCTL and ATTACH.
 
 CSVLLIX2 is driven by a desire by LLA to perform staging functions for the 
 module.
 
 Rob Scott
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 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
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 Subject: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the 
 situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 does take 
 into consideration LLA managed datasets
 
 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Micheal Butz
Sorry bit settings (hate that spellchecker)

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 There are but settings In the user area
 Mapped by ihapds macro indicating where the module came from I wonder what 
 the setting would be
 For a LLA manages dataset 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:25 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 CSVLLIX1 and 2 are not invoked for BLDL 
 
 The services that drive CSVLLIX1 are LINK, LOAD, XCTL and ATTACH.
 
 CSVLLIX2 is driven by a desire by LLA to perform staging functions for the 
 module.
 
 Rob Scott
 Lead Developer
 Rocket Software
 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
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 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the 
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 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
MichealButz wrote:

When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the 
situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 does take 
into consideration LLA managed datasets.

Hmmm, after looking at this thread, I think we all need a way for BLDL [ and 
other module fetch macros ] to tell us exactly *where* that mod came from. 
Could be helpful for diagnosis.

But then, Kees said the LLA is *transparent* to applications.

Michael, does it matter for you? Do you get any errors or problems if the mod 
is not there where you expect it to be found?

I really hope that one of the kind IBMers will pipe up on this thread...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: RC 24 from ISRSUPC (Was 0C4 from TSOEXEC IEBCOMPR)

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6209480351328263.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
03/09/2014
   at 06:51 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

A string containing an unmatched apostrophe.

%member 'foo

should work just fine.

And it was in an ISPSTART context;

Then you're dealing with ISPF issues, not just REXX and TSO issues; it
has nothing to do with what % allows. Try, at the command line,

%rexx say arg(1); exit; '

assuming that user.clist(rexx) doesn't use any ISPF services.
 
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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m3ha77p31u@garlic.com, on 03/09/2014
   at 03:47 PM, Anne  Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said:

... the executable image on disk could be directly mapped to any
address in memory w/o any further alterations or changes.

You don't consider a PSECT to be part of the image?
 
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Re: Timing issue with Automation product (CA OPSMVS)

2014-03-10 Thread John McKown
The others have given good advice. I would suggest finding out which rule
is doing the start of the server. I would then see why that rule is being
triggered multiple times.  This is the proper way. However, I'll also give
you my improper way. We used to have operators who would do multiple
START commands for CICS regions. This was irritating because it was
somewhat difficult to get the extra regions out of the system. Yes, we
could cancel with an A=. But that generated problem reports. Which caused
management to bug us. So I wrote up a CA-OPS/MVS rule to control the
START command. You, and others, might find it interesting. Or you might not.


)CMD  START
)PROC
  smfid=OPSINFO('SMFID')
  EasyRuleCmdText = TRANSLATE(CMD.TEXT,' ',',')
  upper EasyRuleCmdText
  WhatIsStarting=word(EasyRuleCmdText,2)
  WhatIsStarting=TRANSLATE(WhatIsStarting, ,.)
  WhatIsStarting=word(WhatIsStarting,1)
/*
  Do not allow Production or Clone CICS regions
  to start on the Development system
*/
  if  (smfid='DEV1') then do
  if 'PCICS' = LEFT(WhatIsStarting,5) then return REJECT
  if 'CCICS' = LEFT(WhatIsStarting,5) then return REJECT
  end
/*
  Do not allow non-Production CICS regions on the Production system
*/
  if  (smfid='LIH1') then do
  if 'TCICS' = LEFT(WhatIsStarting,5) then return REJECT
  if 'MCICS' = LEFT(WhatIsStarting,5) then return REJECT
  IF 'IMCM'  = WhatIsStarting then return REJECT
  end
/*
 Some things require multiple instances 2b started. List them here.
*/
  MULTIPLEOK=INIT BMCCAS OPSOSF BBISSA1 DUMPSMF C41PDUMP CMRDJCL 
  MULTIPLEOK=MULTIPLEOK TS13DUMP SCHSRVR ATTSRVR CCITCPGW
  /* Test to see if multiple starts are OK. If so, allow the start */
  if (0WORDPOS(WhatIsStarting,MultipleOK)) then return NOACTION
  /*
  if multiple starts are not allowed, then check to see if the STC
  is already running. If so, abort the start, else allow it.
  */
  if (0OPSTATUS(A,A,WhatIsStarting))
  then do
   Msg_Start.1=Dude!
   Msg_Start.2=Notice.
   Msg_Start.3=Achtung!
   Msg_Start.4=Oh, WOW!
   Msg_Start.5=Heavy,
   Msg_Start.0=5
   Msg_End.1=is already running!
   Msg_End.2=is currently running.
   Msg_End.3=is, like, you know, already doing it''s thing.
   Msg_End.0=3
   Msg_Number_S = 1+RANDOM(Msg_Start.0-1)
   Msg_Number_E = 1+RANDOM(Msg_End.0-1)
   MS = Msg_Start.Msg_Number_S
   ME = Msg_End.Msg_Number_E
   Address WTO
TEXT('MS WhatIsStarting ME') ,
DESC(5) LOWLITE MCSFLAGS(RESP) ROUTE(MSTRINFO)
   return REJECT
  end
  else return NOACTION


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 eventually gives up saying the task cannot be started .

 Is this a timing issue ? or a communication problem between the task and
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Access to DITTO

2014-03-10 Thread Florian Luetscher
Hello everybody

I would like to give a group of users access to browse and only browse a VSAM 
dataset using DITTO. 

The DITTO/ESA Inst. and Cust. Guide references a RACF profile 
DITTO.VSAM.UPDATE. But that's exactly what I dont want to give them. Maybe 
access to PROGRAM(DITTO) is enough.

Any idea how to proper set up RACF in this case? 

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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 05:32:38 -0500 Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

:Hmmm, after looking at this thread, I think we all need a way for BLDL [ and 
other module fetch macros ] to tell us exactly *where* that mod came from. 
Could be helpful for diagnosis.

The BLDL concatenation number does that.

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Re: Access to DITTO

2014-03-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Why not simply give read access? What is special about DITTO read?

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:16:31 -0500 Florian Luetscher
florian.luetsc...@helsana.ch wrote:

:Hello everybody
:
:I would like to give a group of users access to browse and only browse a VSAM 
dataset using DITTO. 
:
:The DITTO/ESA Inst. and Cust. Guide references a RACF profile 
DITTO.VSAM.UPDATE. But that's exactly what I dont want to give them. Maybe 
access to PROGRAM(DITTO) is enough.
:
:Any idea how to proper set up RACF in this case? 


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DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM

2014-03-10 Thread Edson Luiz Buturi
Hello,

I have this situation:

The HSM was doing the RECYCLE of virtual tapes (3490e) to a physical tape 
(3592).
But a problem with drive 3592 happened and the HSM was cancelled with 
force, before the RECYCLE FINISHED.
But, before cancel the HSM with force, was commnaded HSEND HOLD RECYCLE, 
but the recycle of the tape D02584 not ended and the HSM was cancelled.

Now, when I tryed do te recycle of the tape D02584 (there are 39 volumes 
connected), I received the message ARC0845I RC=0003 and the recycle 
finished (the tape are in use by another activity) but it is not true.
I tryed recall a file to do the jail brake, the HSM  just put in the queue 
the RECALL and do nothing. The samething happened when I try do the 
recycle.


When I do the HSEND QUERY ACT(TCBADDRESS) nothing appear, but I can't do 
the recycle or recall.

I already do the audit (many times) and the problem persist. I need to 
this recycle to turn off the B18 machine ASAP.

Somebody can help me, please ?

These environment is a old environemnt and it is with z/OS 1.4.

Thank you



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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Binyamin Dissen wrote:

Hmmm, after looking at this thread, I think we all need a way for BLDL [ and 
other module fetch macros ] to tell us exactly *where* that mod came from. 
Could be helpful for diagnosis.

The BLDL concatenation number does that.

Thanks! Very kind of you.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Access to DITTO

2014-03-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Florian Luetscher wrote:

I would like to give a group of users access to browse and only browse a VSAM 
dataset using DITTO. 

As Binyamin Dissen said, just give Read access. 

The DITTO/ESA Inst. and Cust. Guide references a RACF profile 
DITTO.VSAM.UPDATE. But that's exactly what I dont want to give them. Maybe 
access to PROGRAM(DITTO) is enough.

You can use PROGRAM(DITTO) which is useful for limiting usage of DITTO itself 
for example, but not for above scenario for VSAM datasets.

Any idea how to proper set up RACF in this case? 

Try giving access to DITTO.VSAM.UPDATE in FACILITY Class to certain 
persons/groups and create DITTO.** and give it UACC = Read. (See Binyamin's 
note above.)

Or just use this for example:

DITTO.FUNCTION.VB  -- Browsing VSAM datasets. Give UACC=READ.
DITTO.FUNCTION.VE  -- Editing VSAM datasets. Give specific access as needed.
DITTO.**  -- To close all remaining DITTO holes.

Remember to protect your VSAM datasets properly too. This is more important. 
Protect the resources, not the tools only.

That should get you a go.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Micheal Butz
The concatenation number say its LLA managed ? 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
 elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
 
 Binyamin Dissen wrote:
 
 Hmmm, after looking at this thread, I think we all need a way for BLDL [ 
 and other module fetch macros ] to tell us exactly *where* that mod came 
 from. Could be helpful for diagnosis.
 
 The BLDL concatenation number does that.
 
 Thanks! Very kind of you.
 
 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Can you explain, what you are looking for? 
As I said before, LLA is transparent to the application, so you will
probably not see it at all. There are so many things that are LLA
related, like: was the directory cached / was the library VLF eligible /
did the module come from VLF etc. etc. which are all hidden because of
the LLA transparency.

Kees.

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The concatenation number say its LLA managed ? 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
 
 Binyamin Dissen wrote:
 
 Hmmm, after looking at this thread, I think we all need a way for
BLDL [ and other module fetch macros ] to tell us exactly *where* that
mod came from. Could be helpful for diagnosis.
 
 The BLDL concatenation number does that.
 
 Thanks! Very kind of you.
 
 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Micheal Butz
From what I understand though the exits will only be driven 

By attach, load link load de=

 



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 Can you explain, what you are looking for? 
 As I said before, LLA is transparent to the application, so you will
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 The concatenation number say its LLA managed ? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
 elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
 
 Binyamin Dissen wrote:
 
 Hmmm, after looking at this thread, I think we all need a way for
 BLDL [ and other module fetch macros ] to tell us exactly *where* that
 mod came from. Could be helpful for diagnosis.
 
 The BLDL concatenation number does that.
 
 Thanks! Very kind of you.
 
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Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM

2014-03-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Have you done the TTOC list to see what maybe left on the tape?

Have you done a DELVOL MARKFULL command?

Have you looked at the TAPECOPY command?

Lizette


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 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:44 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM
 
 Hello,
 
 I have this situation:
 
 The HSM was doing the RECYCLE of virtual tapes (3490e) to a physical tape
 (3592).
 But a problem with drive 3592 happened and the HSM was cancelled with
force,
 before the RECYCLE FINISHED.
 But, before cancel the HSM with force, was commnaded HSEND HOLD
 RECYCLE, but the recycle of the tape D02584 not ended and the HSM was
 cancelled.
 
 Now, when I tryed do te recycle of the tape D02584 (there are 39 volumes
 connected), I received the message ARC0845I RC=0003 and the recycle
finished
 (the tape are in use by another activity) but it is not true.
 I tryed recall a file to do the jail brake, the HSM  just put in the queue
the RECALL
 and do nothing. The samething happened when I try do the recycle.
 
 
 When I do the HSEND QUERY ACT(TCBADDRESS) nothing appear, but I can't do
 the recycle or recall.
 
 I already do the audit (many times) and the problem persist. I need to
this recycle to
 turn off the B18 machine ASAP.
 
 Somebody can help me, please ?
 
 These environment is a old environemnt and it is with z/OS 1.4.
 
 Thank you
 
 
 
 Edson Luiz Buturi
 z/OS Storage Specialist
 ITS - Integrated Technology Services
 Email: elbut...@br.ibm.com
 Tel: 55-11-2132-3105
 Mobile: 55-19-98172-9848
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Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM

2014-03-10 Thread Edson Luiz Buturi
Lizette,

On the TTOC list the tape have a subsequent tape.
And this tape is marked full too.
Thank you


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From:   Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Date:   10/03/2014 10:40
Subject:Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM
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Have you done the TTOC list to see what maybe left on the tape?

Have you done a DELVOL MARKFULL command?

Have you looked at the TAPECOPY command?

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Edson Luiz Buturi
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:44 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM
 
 Hello,
 
 I have this situation:
 
 The HSM was doing the RECYCLE of virtual tapes (3490e) to a physical 
tape
 (3592).
 But a problem with drive 3592 happened and the HSM was cancelled with
force,
 before the RECYCLE FINISHED.
 But, before cancel the HSM with force, was commnaded HSEND HOLD
 RECYCLE, but the recycle of the tape D02584 not ended and the HSM was
 cancelled.
 
 Now, when I tryed do te recycle of the tape D02584 (there are 39 volumes
 connected), I received the message ARC0845I RC=0003 and the recycle
finished
 (the tape are in use by another activity) but it is not true.
 I tryed recall a file to do the jail brake, the HSM  just put in the 
queue
the RECALL
 and do nothing. The samething happened when I try do the recycle.
 
 
 When I do the HSEND QUERY ACT(TCBADDRESS) nothing appear, but I can't do
 the recycle or recall.
 
 I already do the audit (many times) and the problem persist. I need to
this recycle to
 turn off the B18 machine ASAP.
 
 Somebody can help me, please ?
 
 These environment is a old environemnt and it is with z/OS 1.4.
 
 Thank you
 
 
 
 Edson Luiz Buturi
 z/OS Storage Specialist
 ITS - Integrated Technology Services
 Email: elbut...@br.ibm.com
 Tel: 55-11-2132-3105
 Mobile: 55-19-98172-9848
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Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM

2014-03-10 Thread Edson Luiz Buturi
OK, but I have no alternate volume .


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From:   Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Date:   10/03/2014 10:49
Subject:Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM
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If you have an alternate volume for your tapes, then the DELVOL command 
with
MARKFULL will remove the current and use the alternate.

If not, then I have nothing else to provide.

Lizette


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Edson Luiz Buturi
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:45 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM
 
 Lizette,
 
 On the TTOC list the tape have a subsequent tape.
 And this tape is marked full too.
 Thank you
 
 
 Edson Luiz Buturi
 z/OS Storage Specialist
 ITS - Integrated Technology Services
 Email: elbut...@br.ibm.com
 Tel: 55-11-2132-3105
 Mobile: 55-19-98172-9848
 São Paulo - SP - Brasil
 
 
 
 
 From:   Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 Date:   10/03/2014 10:40
 Subject:Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 
 
 
 Have you done the TTOC list to see what maybe left on the tape?
 
 Have you done a DELVOL MARKFULL command?
 
 Have you looked at the TAPECOPY command?
 
 Lizette
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Edson Luiz Buturi
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:44 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM
 
  Hello,
 
  I have this situation:
 
  The HSM was doing the RECYCLE of virtual tapes (3490e) to a physical
 tape
  (3592).
  But a problem with drive 3592 happened and the HSM was cancelled with
 force,
  before the RECYCLE FINISHED.
  But, before cancel the HSM with force, was commnaded HSEND HOLD
  RECYCLE, but the recycle of the tape D02584 not ended and the HSM was
  cancelled.
 
  Now, when I tryed do te recycle of the tape D02584 (there are 39
  volumes connected), I received the message ARC0845I RC=0003 and the
  recycle
 finished
  (the tape are in use by another activity) but it is not true.
  I tryed recall a file to do the jail brake, the HSM  just put in the
 queue
 the RECALL
  and do nothing. The samething happened when I try do the recycle.
 
 
  When I do the HSEND QUERY ACT(TCBADDRESS) nothing appear, but I can't
  do the recycle or recall.
 
  I already do the audit (many times) and the problem persist. I need to
 this recycle to
  turn off the B18 machine ASAP.
 
  Somebody can help me, please ?
 
  These environment is a old environemnt and it is with z/OS 1.4.
 
  Thank you
 
 
 
  Edson Luiz Buturi
  z/OS Storage Specialist
  ITS - Integrated Technology Services
  Email: elbut...@br.ibm.com
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9921080e-5ded-41f9-b921-0d68605c1...@optonline.net, on 03/10/2014
   at 06:29 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said:

There are but settings In the user area
Mapped by ihapds macro indicating where the module came from I 
wonder what the setting would be For a LLA manages dataset 

First, BLDL doesn't fetch the member[1]. Second, you have to know what
is in the active link list, in each tasklib and the private library
(if any) in order to know where BLDL found the member[1]; BLDL
returns:

   K: Indicates the concatenation number of the data set. For the
first or
   only data set, this value is zero.

   Z: Indicates where the system found the directory entry:

   Code Meaning
   0Private library
   1Link library
   2Job, task, or step library
   3-16 Job, task, or step library of parent task n, where n = Z-2

Note that it doesn't matter whether the BLDL data are cached.

[1] It need not be a load module.
 
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Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM

2014-03-10 Thread Staller, Allan
ISTR that DFHSM has  a 40 volume limit for connected sets.

Break the chain (anywhere) by recalling the dataset that spans volumes.

Recycle either piece of the broken chain and then re-migrate the recalled 
dataset.


To locate the dataset spanning volumes:

HSEND LIST TTOC(volume 1)
HSEND LIST TTOC(volume2)

The last dataset on volume1 should also be the first dataset on volume2.

HOWEVER, ARC0845I/ RC3 indicated volume in use. My first take is to perform a 
graceful shutdown/restart of HSM and retry.
If that does not work try the recycle command with the force operand. Check the 
fine manuals for syntax,

HTH, 

snip
The HSM was doing the RECYCLE of virtual tapes (3490e) to a physical tape 
(3592).
But a problem with drive 3592 happened and the HSM was cancelled with force, 
before the RECYCLE FINISHED.
But, before cancel the HSM with force, was commnaded HSEND HOLD RECYCLE, but 
the recycle of the tape D02584 not ended and the HSM was cancelled.

Now, when I tryed do te recycle of the tape D02584 (there are 39 volumes 
connected), I received the message ARC0845I RC=0003 and the recycle finished 
(the tape are in use by another activity) but it is not true.
I tryed recall a file to do the jail brake, the HSM  just put in the queue the 
RECALL and do nothing. The samething happened when I try do the recycle.


When I do the HSEND QUERY ACT(TCBADDRESS) nothing appear, but I can't do the 
recycle or recall.

I already do the audit (many times) and the problem persist. I need to this 
recycle to turn off the B18 machine ASAP.

Somebody can help me, please ?

These environment is a old environemnt and it is with z/OS 1.4.
/snip

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Re: Access to DITTO

2014-03-10 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/10/2014 08:06 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
 Florian Luetscher wrote:

 I would like to give a group of users access to browse and only browse a 
 VSAM dataset using DITTO. 
 As Binyamin Dissen said, just give Read access. 

 The DITTO/ESA Inst. and Cust. Guide references a RACF profile 
 DITTO.VSAM.UPDATE. But that's exactly what I dont want to give them. Maybe 
 access to PROGRAM(DITTO) is enough.
 You can use PROGRAM(DITTO) which is useful for limiting usage of DITTO itself 
 for example, but not for above scenario for VSAM datasets.

 Any idea how to proper set up RACF in this case? 
 Try giving access to DITTO.VSAM.UPDATE in FACILITY Class to certain 
 persons/groups and create DITTO.** and give it UACC = Read. (See Binyamin's 
 note above.)

 Or just use this for example:

 DITTO.FUNCTION.VB  -- Browsing VSAM datasets. Give UACC=READ.
 DITTO.FUNCTION.VE  -- Editing VSAM datasets. Give specific access as needed.
 DITTO.**  -- To close all remaining DITTO holes.

 Remember to protect your VSAM datasets properly too. This is more important. 
 Protect the resources, not the tools only.

 That should get you a go.

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht



It seems rather odd to want to only allow READ access through a specific
program, unless that program is also able to restrict what you can see
-- and I wasn't aware that was a characteristic of DITTO.  But if you
really want to implement this, no one seems to have mentioned RACF
program-controlled access.  RACF PROGRAM profiles can be used both to
control access to specific programs and to conditionally control access
to data sets.

You first have to have an explicit PROGRAM profile for the program in
question (DITTO).  PROGRAM profiles must also be associated with one or
more datasets from which the program might be loaded.  You also must
have a program-controlled environment, which means that all programs
loaded into the environment must be under the control of some PROGRAM
profile.  This generally means you need a generic ** PROGRAM profile
associated with all libraries in the LinkList and any other libraries
you might need to reference in a program-controlled  job step so you
won't unintentionally lose your program-controlled environment when some
unknown (to the typical user) module is loaded internally by the main
program -- and the difficult-to-remember part is that if the names of
libraries in the LINKLIST change, this profile must be updated
accordingly.  To be on the safe side, be sure to create these PROGRAM
profiles with UACC READ before activating PROGRAM profiles so as to not
shoot yourself in the foot by immediately denying access to all programs
for all users!  Once those are in place, do not grant the restricted
class of users any direct access to the DATASET profile covering the
VSAM cluster in question, but do grant the restricted class of users
program-controlled READ access to that profile (see the WHEN(PROGRAM(...
)) option of PERMIT).  That way they only have READ access to the
dataset when the main program is DITTO.  Also note that PROGRAM profiles
are cached in memory and require an explicit REFRESH to pick up any changes.

Even if RACF PROGRAM profiles are not used to deny program access to any
users, the PROGRAM profiles must exist and be active in order to have a
program-controlled environment and in order to have program-controlled
access to DATASET profiles.

As already implied, the effort to implement this technique doesn't
really make sense from a security standpoint unless the program through
which restricted access (READ or UPDATE) is given is able to limit what
the user can do to only a subset of what direct READ or UPDATE access to
the data set might allow.

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Re: RC 24 from ISRSUPC (Was 0C4 from TSOEXEC IEBCOMPR)

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 23:41:12 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

And it was in an ISPSTART context;

Then you're dealing with ISPF issues, not just REXX and TSO issues; it
has nothing to do with what % allows. Try, at the command line,

%rexx say arg(1); exit; '
 
Yes, but I never claimed it was just REXX and TSO issues,
merely that there was a context in which EXEC worked but '%'
didn't.  And I was wishing for EXEC *(MEMBER) ... to avoid the
need to fully qualify the path.

And, yes, I'd also wish for more permissive ISPF syntax.  A
scheme for escaping metacharacters would go a long way.

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Re: aes-ctr vs aes-cbc

2014-03-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Mark,

Yes, Ported Tools OpenSSH with ICSF does not support CTR mode AES ciphers.
 I would ask that you submit a requirement for this.

I happen to be giving a SHARE presentation in Aneheim today which covers
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https://share.confex.com/share/122/webprogram/Session14787.html



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On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.comwrote:

 We've been trying to migrate our ssh/sftp environment, for both our client
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 FIPS mode. We've had no problems doing so, except with one of our partners
 who states that their security policy will not allow their sftp server to
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 I tried adding the aes-ctr ciphers to our allowed list, but it doesn't
 look like ICSF can handle it, which is needed for ICSF to execute in FIPS
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 It seems like I'm in a unresolvable problem from a technology standpoint,
 unless our partner changes their policy, which I don't understand why they
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z/OS PKI Services HostIDMapping format

2014-03-10 Thread Donald J.
Could someone who is using z/OS PKI Services for z/OS post a sample
certificate containing an arbitrary extension for HostIdMapping, or an
openssl asn1parse display like below?   I am trying to use openssl to
generate the HostIdMapping extension, but am having problems with the
format.  Below is the openssl display for my certificate HostIdMapping
{1.3.18.0.2.18.1} extension:

openssl asn1parse -in luhe448.pem

  691:d=4  hl=3 l= 132 cons: SEQUENCE
  694:d=5  hl=2 l=   6 prim: OBJECT:1.3.18.0.2.18.1
  702:d=5  hl=2 l= 122 prim: OCTET STRING  [HEX
  
DUMP]:30780C1C4C554845343438404D5653332E4350412E53544154452E54582E55530C1C4C554845343438406D7673332E6370612E
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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 March 2014 10:57, Anne  Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote:
 I would tend to use the distinction that for the psect, a private copy
 was loaded and adjusted for the specific virtual address space location
 ... separately from (r/o) memory mapping the executable image with no
 requirement for pre-loading and/or changing ... allowing the same exact
 (r/o) executable image to concurrently occur simultaneously in different
 virtual address spaces at different virtual addresses (with just a per
 virtual address space private copy of the psect having been preloaded
 and swizzled).

The overlay scheme used in HASP II had fixed-sized modules that were
read into an available area without relocation. If the space was
needed, when the first module got control again it could be loaded at
a different address. But the trick was that these tasks were never
preempted, so it was permissible to have a register containing an
address within the module, as long as it was made relative before
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Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread John McKown
We produce reports on our z/OS CPU utilization. They are reported in local
time, with a.m. and p.m.. Because apparently only military (and pilots)
understand Zulu time. So, twice a year, I must explain why we never seem to
have any activity on Sunday from 02:00 to 03:00 in the spring, and how we
manage to run so much work on one Sunday from 02:00 to 03:00 in the fall.
The reason, of course, is the stupid time change. 02:00 to 03:00 does not
exist on Spring Forward Sunday, and from 02:00 to 03:00 is a two hour
period on Fall Backwards Sunday. And every year, I hear the WTF??? on
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Re: SHOW HW

2014-03-10 Thread Mitch
Roman,

What are you asking?

Mitch McCluhan,
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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Mitch
John,

Stupid is as stupid does is all I can say.  The type of people you allude to 
will always exist, sadly

Regards,

Mitch



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We produce reports on our z/OS CPU utilization. They are reported in local
ime, with a.m. and p.m.. Because apparently only military (and pilots)
nderstand Zulu time. So, twice a year, I must explain why we never seem to
ave any activity on Sunday from 02:00 to 03:00 in the spring, and how we
anage to run so much work on one Sunday from 02:00 to 03:00 in the fall.
he reason, of course, is the stupid time change. 02:00 to 03:00 does not
xist on Spring Forward Sunday, and from 02:00 to 03:00 is a two hour
eriod on Fall Backwards Sunday. And every year, I hear the WTF??? on
onday morning. sigh/
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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:58:53 -0500, John McKown wrote:

We produce reports on our z/OS CPU utilization. They are reported in local
time, with a.m. and p.m.. Because apparently only military (and pilots)
understand Zulu time. So, twice a year, I must explain why we never seem to
have any activity on Sunday from 02:00 to 03:00 in the spring, and how we
manage to run so much work on one Sunday from 02:00 to 03:00 in the fall.
The reason, of course, is the stupid time change. 02:00 to 03:00 does not
exist on Spring Forward Sunday, and from 02:00 to 03:00 is a two hour
period on Fall Backwards Sunday. And every year, I hear the WTF??? on
Monday morning. sigh/
 
So, disambiguate by reporting the times separately for that hour in the Fall,
and not at all for that hour in the Spring, and qualifying with EST or EDT.

Yes, there would be a 25-line report in the Fall, and a 23-line report in
the Spring.  Deal with it; SMOP.

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Pommier, Rex
Let me guess.  This is another of those mainframe limitations because the 
windows team doesn't have to report utilization therefore the problem isn't 
seen over there.

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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes:
 The overlay scheme used in HASP II had fixed-sized modules that were
 read into an available area without relocation. If the space was
 needed, when the first module got control again it could be loaded at
 a different address. But the trick was that these tasks were never
 preempted, so it was permissible to have a register containing an
 address within the module, as long as it was made relative before
 (loosely) calling the dispatcher, which might result in relocation.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#25 [OT ] Mainframe memories
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#27 [OT ] Mainframe memories
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#30 [OT ] Mainframe memories

for other topic drift ... I first modified HASP for release 15/16 to add
2714  tty terminal support for online conversational editor
... implementing CMS editor syntax (had to be redone from scratch since
cms execution/programming environment was completely different than
hasp). of course I thought it was much better than what they came out
with for TSO. past posts mentioning HASP, HASP networking, JES2, and/or
NJE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

that summer, I was sucked into going to Boeing (still an undergraduate)
to help setup Boeing Computer Services (consolidate dataprocessing in
independent business unit to better monitize the investment). 747#3 was
flying the skies of seattle for FAA certification.

I thought that the renton datacenter was possibly the largest in the
world (several hundred million in 360s), that summer there was flow of
360/65s constantly coming in, faster than could be installed ... there
were alwyas pieces of 360/65s being staged in the hallways around the
machine roomr. There was a disaster scenario where Mt. Rainer heats up
causing a mudslide that takes out the renton datacenter. The estimate
was the loss of the renton datacenter for a week would cost the company
more than the cost of the renton datacenter ... so they were in the
process of replicating it at the new 747 plant up in everett.

they also got a 360/67 in corporate datacenter (across from boeing
field) previously only had a single 360/30 for running company payroll.

that summer I modified cp67 to support pageable kernel. The standard
cp67 kernel was fix-loaded at boot time. I modified low-useage pieces of
the kernel into fixed sized 4kbyte page sizes ... which could use the
standard paging i/o system for bringing in and removing. However, the
cp67 kernel ran non-translate mode ... so the changes were somewhat
analogous to what you describe for HASP II. While a lot of my code from
undergraduate days were picked up and shipped in CP67 ... the pageable
kernel change didn't showup in the product until vm370.

posts mentioning dynamic adaptive resource management
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
posts mentioning kernel paging  algorithm rewrites
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

that summer they also brought the duplex (multiprocessor) 360/67 up to
seattle from boeing hunstville. it had been originally ordered for
tss/360 ... but never got to point of production use. As a result
Huntsville, starting out running the duplex as two 360/65 with
os/360. The primary application was numerous 2250 graphic devices used
for physical design.  The problem was that OS/360 had fragmentation with
storage allocation that significantly worsened for long running
applications.

Boeing Hunstville had modified OS/360 MVT release 13 ... to run in
virtual memory mode on the 360/67 ... it didn't actually use virtual
memory for paging operations ... it just just the virtual memory
hardware to address the OS/360 storage fragmentation problem
(exasperated by long running applications).

I've mentioned before that there were a number os/360 subsystems done
during that period ... as work around to significant os/360 problems
... including CICS ... both the enormous pathlength overhead of many
os/360 services ... but also things like storage fragmentation. Other
trivia drift ... Univ. library had gotten ONR grant to do an online
catalog ... some of the money was used to get a 2321 datacell. The
effort was also tagged to be one of the original CICS product betatest
sites ... and I was tasked to support/debug CICS for the project. misc.
past posts mentioning CICS (/or BDAM)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics

For other drift ... later I got to know John Boyd and sponsored his
briefings at IBM. His biographies mention that Boyd did a stint in command
of spook base (about the time I was at Boeing) including a comment
that it was a $2.5B windfall for IBM (over $17B in today's dollars)
 nearly order of magnitude more than renton datacenter.

old description of spook base, gone 404 ... but lives on at wayback
machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html/a

past Boyd posts  URL references from around the web

Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread R.S.

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:58:53 -0500, John McKown wrote:

We produce reports on our z/OS CPU utilization. They are reported in local
time, with a.m. and p.m.. Because apparently only military (and pilots)
understand Zulu time.
That's something I observe in US (people don't understand such gismo 
like 17:15). Here, in Poland every official time table, even on bus stop 
use 24h clock. Of course we use local time, and we don't use 'Zulu' 
name, rather GMT (incorretly, but who cares) or UTC.

Of course we also don't use feet or pints...

Regarding to mainframe: since I installed STP, the time change is 
something I don't care. CICS also adjust the time immediately (it's 
rather new feature).


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Re: z/OS PKI Services HostIDMapping format

2014-03-10 Thread Phil Sidler
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:59:55 -0700, Donald J. dona...@4email.net wrote:

Could someone who is using z/OS PKI Services for z/OS post a sample
certificate containing an arbitrary extension for HostIdMapping, or an

Would some VBscript help?  Did this a loong time ago and I'm not sure it's 
totally clean, but I did use it.

'
' hostIdMappings - Build hostIdMappings certificate extension for the entities 
passed as arguments
'
' usage:   cscript hostIdMappings.vbs //NOLOGO userA@hostname1 [ 
userB@hostname2 [...] ] tempfile.txt
'  if %ERRORLEVEL% LSS 1 certutil.exe -setextension request-id 
1.3.18.0.2.18.1 @tempfile.txt
'
' The extension we are building is described by:
'
'id-ce-hostIdMappings OBJECT IDENTIFIER::= {1 3 18 0 2 18 1}
'
'HostIdMappings::= SET OF HostIdMapping
'
'HostIdMapping::= SEQUENCE{
'   hostNameIMPLICIT[1] IA5String,
'   subjectId IMPLICIT[2] IA5String,
'   proofOfIdPossession IdProof OPTIONAL
' }
' IdProof::= SEQUENCE{
'   secretOCTET STRING,
'   encryptionAlgorithm OBJECT IDENTIFIER
' }
'
'  Note: the proofOfIdPossession is not implemented here.
'
' References: z/OS Security Server RACF Callable Services (IBM Doc SA22-7691)
' Advanced Certificate Enrollment and Management (Microsoft TechNet)
'

Set oArgs  = WScript.Arguments

if (oArgs.count  1) then
  usage()
end if

if (oArgs(0) = -?) or (oArgs(0) = -h) then
  usage()
end if

for i = 0 to oArgs.count - 1
  if Instr(oArgs(i), @) = 0 then
usage()
  end if
  if Len(oArgs(i))  100 then
usage()
  end if
next

' build extension as a SET of SEQUECEs of subjectID/hostName pairs

hostIdMappings = 

for i = 0 to oArgs.count - 1

  at = InstrRev(oArgs(i), @)
  subjectId = Left(oArgs(i), at-1)
  hostName = Right(oArgs(i), Len(oArgs(i)) - at)
'  WScript.echo hostName:   hostName  chr(13)  _
'   subjectId:   subjectId

' IMPLICIT(1) + LENGTH + DATA
  asn1HostName  = Chr(129)  Chr(Len(hostName))  hostName
' IMPLICIT(2) + LENGTH + DATA
  asn1SubjectId = Chr(130)  Chr(Len(subjectId))  subjectId

  hostIdMapping = asn1HostName  asn1SubjectId

' SEQUENCE + LENGTH + DATA
  asn1HostIdMapping = Chr(48)  Chr(Len(hostIdMapping))  hostIdMapping

  hostIdMappings = hostIdMappings  asn1HostIdMapping

next

' SET + LENGTH + DATA
' note: total length limited to 32K here
if Len(hostIdMappings)  127 then
  asn1HostIdMappings = Chr(49)  Chr(130)  Chr(Len(hostIdMappings) / 256)  
Chr(Len(hostIdMappings) Mod 256)  hostIdMappings
else
  asn1HostIdMappings = Chr(49)  Chr(Len(hostIdMappings))  hostIdMappings
end if

' convert to hex for certutil
hexHostIdMappings = 

for i = 1 to Len(asn1HostIdMappings)
  hexHostIdMappings = hexHostIdMappings  Right(0  
Hex(Asc(Mid(asn1HostIdMappings, i, 1))), 2)   
next

WScript.echo hexHostIdMappings

' - - - - - '

Function usage

  WScript.Echo Usage: cscript hostIdMappings.vbs hostIdMap1 [hostIdMap2 [...]]
  WScript.EchohostIdMaps are in the format userid@hostname and limited 
to 100 characters
  WScript.Quit 1

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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Ed Finnell
Guess the naming gnomes were trying to subliminally suggest it had no SS  
instructions. 
 
 
In a message dated 3/10/2014 1:56:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
et...@tulsagrammer.com writes:

IBM  System/360 Model 44, optimized for scientific  work

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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Eric Chevalier

On 3/8/14, 6:49 PM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:

In
b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.com,
on 03/07/2014
at 08:50 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
said:


When working for a third party disk vendor I was in a computer room
and there was an IBM CE working on a 360/45.


No such animal; I might believe 360/40 or 370/145.


But there WAS an IBM System/360 Model 44, optimized for scientific work:

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2044.html

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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Barry Merrill
In 1966 we got 360/44 Serial 2 at the Purdue University's Laboratory for 
Agricultural Remote Sensing, which was the proving ground of K.S. Fu's work 
used subsequently in all of the earth satellite pattern recognition algorithms.
I did my Master's evaluating the Karhunen-Loeve theorem in FORTRAN on it, and 
twice
I set a pair of transistors in the floating point divide unit on fire; a new 
heat shield had to be
added to that circuit board. 

I also used a transistor radio by the console to listen to the 360/44 and it 
was very easy to hear
all of the program transisions and I could tell in which loop I was running 
after a little
while, and especially when I had gone into a never-ending loop as well!

Barry Merrill

Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD
President-Programmer
MXG Software
Merrill Consultants
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Eric Chevalier
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:56 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

On 3/8/14, 6:49 PM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
 In
 b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.c
 om,
 on 03/07/2014
 at 08:50 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
 said:

 When working for a third party disk vendor I was in a computer room 
 and there was an IBM CE working on a 360/45.

 No such animal; I might believe 360/40 or 370/145.

But there WAS an IBM System/360 Model 44, optimized for scientific work:

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2044.html

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread John Gilmore
Every American who has been in  the military has perforce mastered and
used the 24-hour clock.  Adopt it for your report, explaining what it
is in an attached text note for the first 15 days for which it is
used.

The twelve-hour clock has nothing to recommend it.  Anciently, there
were not two but three suffixes, viz.,

o AM, ante meridiem, as in antebellum or antecedent, before noon,

o M, meridies, noon, middle of the day, and

o PM, post meridiem, as in postwar, afternoon.

This scheme did parse, but dumbing down has destroyed it

The latin case endings are now all but unknown; hoi polloi have
somehow lost meridies and M entirely; and I now hear speculation about
whether noon is AM or PM, about whether, that is, it is noon before
noon or noon after noon.

Dump it, and tough out the complaints you will hear.  They will
subside quickly, and you will be surprised to discover that you have
many allies.


John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Shannon
 Every American who has been in  the military has perforce mastered and used 
 the 24-hour clock.  

A diminishing number of Americans have that experience.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Richard Pinion
Now that's something to be proud of, and funny too!

Richard and Vickie Pinion

--- ba...@mxg.com wrote:

From: Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com
To:   IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:09:58 -0500

In 1966 we got 360/44 Serial 2 at the Purdue University's Laboratory for 
Agricultural Remote Sensing, which was the proving ground of K.S. Fu's work 
used subsequently in all of the earth satellite pattern recognition algorithms.
I did my Master's evaluating the Karhunen-Loeve theorem in FORTRAN on it, and 
twice
I set a pair of transistors in the floating point divide unit on fire; a new 
heat shield had to be
added to that circuit board. 

I also used a transistor radio by the console to listen to the 360/44 and it 
was very easy to hear
all of the program transisions and I could tell in which loop I was running 
after a little
while, and especially when I had gone into a never-ending loop as well!

Barry Merrill

Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD
President-Programmer
MXG Software
Merrill Consultants
10717 Cromwell Drive
Dallas, TX 75229
ba...@mxg.com

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Eric Chevalier
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:56 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

On 3/8/14, 6:49 PM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
 In
 b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.c
 om,
 on 03/07/2014
 at 08:50 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
 said:

 When working for a third party disk vendor I was in a computer room 
 and there was an IBM CE working on a 360/45.

 No such animal; I might believe 360/40 or 370/145.

But there WAS an IBM System/360 Model 44, optimized for scientific work:

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2044.html

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread DASDBILL2
Many non-military people are also familiar with the 24-hour clock, such as my 
wife, who was in nursing for 40 years.  American medical people are all fluent 
in 24-hour TODs. 
Bill Fairchild 

- Original Message -

From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 2:11:43 PM 
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate the time change 

Every American who has been in  the military has perforce mastered and 
used the 24-hour clock.  Adopt it for your report, explaining what it 
is in an attached text note for the first 15 days for which it is 
used. 

The twelve-hour clock has nothing to recommend it.  Anciently, there 
were not two but three suffixes, viz., 

o AM, ante meridiem, as in antebellum or antecedent, before noon, 

o M, meridies, noon, middle of the day, and 

o PM, post meridiem, as in postwar, afternoon. 

This scheme did parse, but dumbing down has destroyed it 

The latin case endings are now all but unknown; hoi polloi have 
somehow lost meridies and M entirely; and I now hear speculation about 
whether noon is AM or PM, about whether, that is, it is noon before 
noon or noon after noon. 

Dump it, and tough out the complaints you will hear.  They will 
subside quickly, and you will be surprised to discover that you have 
many allies. 


John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA 

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Gilmore
 
 Every American who has been in  the military has perforce mastered and used 
 the 24-hour clock.  Adopt
 it for your report, explaining what it is in an attached text note for the 
 first 15 days for which it
 is used.
 
 The twelve-hour clock has nothing to recommend it.  Anciently, there were not 
 two but three suffixes,
 viz.,
 
 o AM, ante meridiem, as in antebellum or antecedent, before noon,
 
 o M, meridies, noon, middle of the day, and
 
 o PM, post meridiem, as in postwar, afternoon.
 
 This scheme did parse, but dumbing down has destroyed it
 
 The latin case endings are now all but unknown; hoi polloi have somehow lost 
 meridies and M entirely;
 and I now hear speculation about whether noon is AM or PM, about whether, 
 that is, it is noon before
 noon or noon after noon.

Since the duration of noon is infinitesimal, why bother with it?

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread John Gilmore
Without conscription the fraction of Americans who have military
experience is certainly now diminishing.  Let us hope that it will
continue to drop, but I doubt that it will.  It diminished sharply
after WWI, in the 1920s and 1930s; but WWII sent it up again, sharply
.

Moreover, our 'volunteer' American military is showing signs of
fatigue.  Its members are being redeployed into combat zones much too
frequently.  Their periods of respite are now, in the words of the
Scots poet,  short and far between.

My point was, however, a different one.  It was that if the millions
of Americans who have served in the military were able to master the
24-hour clock almost anyone else can do so too.  The intellectual
difficulties of doing so have been greatly exaggerated.  American
specialism about things like the 12-hour clock and the English
system of weights and measures grows ever more tedious and
dysfunctional.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:34:19 +, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Gilmore
 
 Every American who has been in  the military has perforce mastered and used 
 the 24-hour clock.  Adopt
 it for your report, explaining what it is in an attached text note for the 
 first 15 days for which it
 is used.
 
 The twelve-hour clock has nothing to recommend it.  Anciently, there were 
 not two but three suffixes,
 viz.,
 
 o AM, ante meridiem, as in antebellum or antecedent, before noon,
 
 o M, meridies, noon, middle of the day, and
 
 o PM, post meridiem, as in postwar, afternoon.
 
 This scheme did parse, but dumbing down has destroyed it
 
 The latin case endings are now all but unknown; hoi polloi have somehow lost 
 meridies and M entirely;
 and I now hear speculation about whether noon is AM or PM, about whether, 
 that is, it is noon before
 noon or noon after noon.

Since the duration of noon is infinitesimal, why bother with it?

Because noon and midnight are unambiguous time specifications, unlike 12 p.m. 
and 12 a.m. which  few people know how to use properly in my experience.

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HCD Question regarding the deletion of LPARs

2014-03-10 Thread Dick Bond
Hello,

Running z/OS 1.13.  trying to delete four LPARs that we no longer use
from our I/O gen dynamically.   When I say delete, I mean, of course,
changing them back to reserved or * LPARs.  I delete all the CHPID
access from the four before changing them to *.

When I go to dynamically implement the I/O gen, I get this message:

_ EREASON=01A2,CANNOT DELETE PARTITION(S) FROM CHPID
#  CANDIDATE LIST 00 IN IN CSS 0
#   DESCTEXT=CHPID IS CONFIGURED TO ONE OR MORE AFFECTED
#   PARTITIONS
#   COMPID=SC1C3

with this explanation:

 CHPID IS CONFIGURED TO ONE OR MORE AFFECTED PARTITIONS

  If the description of failure is the above, then the specified
channel path is currently configured to one or more of the
partitions that you requested to be conditionally deleted from
the CHPID candidate list.  The system returns to the original
configuration definition, unless a message is issued indicating
that back-out failed.  Configure the channel path offline to the
partition(s) that are being deleted from the CHPID candidate
list. If successful, retry the activate request.  Only the first
occurrence of a channel path being online for this reason is
detected. Review other changes to ensure that the next ACTIVATE
does not fail when the next occurrence is encountered.  An
unconditional delete of partition(s) from CHPID candidate list,
by specifying FORCE=CANDIDATE on the ACTIVATE command or
activate panel, could also be considered. Refer to the ACTIVATE
command documentation for a description of the ramifications of
specifying an unconditional delete of partition(s) from a CHPID
candidate list.

I'm assuming that I would get this same message for every CHPID in sequence
if this first one were to be resolved.


I really don't see how this makes sense since none of the four LPARs are
IPLed.  What is HCD really complaining about here and is it safe to do a
FORCE=CANDIDATE in these circumstanes?

Thank you for your assistance.

Dick Bond
State of Washington, Computer Technology Services

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:34:19 +, Chase, John wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Gilmore
 
 The latin case endings are now all but unknown; hoi polloi have somehow lost 
 meridies and M entirely;
 and I now hear speculation about whether noon is AM or PM, about whether, 
 that is, it is noon before
 noon or noon after noon.

Since the duration of noon is infinitesimal, why bother with it?
 
To distinguish it from midnight.  BTW, what is the neoLatin indication for
midnight, 12:00 ???

I am unmoved by the argument, Of course noon is PM, because when
I glance at my watch and it reads '12:00' it's actually some few seconds
after noon.  (Except for a set of measure zero.)

And buses at the local RTD terminal depart at 1 minute after the
scheduled time to appease passengers who complain, I arrived,
breathless, at the station to see the back of the departing bus,
but the official terminal digital clock didn't change until 5 seconds
later.

And midnight entails a date ambiguity.  Some events are scheduled at
11:59 PM or 12:01 AM to circumvent this ambiguity.

00:00 means following day; 24:00 (which shouldn't be used at all) means
prior day.

-- gil

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Re: z/OS PKI Services HostIDMapping format

2014-03-10 Thread Donald J.
Yes, the script helps to identify some things.  What appilcation was it
working with?
I am trying to generate a cert for an RDz client.  The RDz client
appears to try to be
intelligent and not allow bad parameters to be entered like a wrong
passphrase for a PKCS12.
It seems to reject all the certs I have tried.  I'm thinking maybe there
is a bug in the client.

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On Mon, Mar 10, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Phil Sidler wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:59:55 -0700, Donald J. dona...@4email.net wrote:
 
 Could someone who is using z/OS PKI Services for z/OS post a sample
 certificate containing an arbitrary extension for HostIdMapping, or an
 
 Would some VBscript help?  Did this a loong time ago and I'm not sure
 it's totally clean, but I did use it.
 
   

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Re: HCD Question regarding the deletion of LPARs

2014-03-10 Thread Mike Schwab
For an error free removal, do it in two steps.

 [deleted]  Configure the channel path offline to the
 partition(s) that are being deleted from the CHPID candidate
 list. [deleted]

1. Configure the IO gen with the LPARs to be deleted with all the
CHPIDs offline, and activate.

2. Configure the IO gen without the LPARs, and activate.

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Dick Bond dickbond...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Running z/OS 1.13.  trying to delete four LPARs that we no longer use
 from our I/O gen dynamically.   When I say delete, I mean, of course,
 changing them back to reserved or * LPARs.  I delete all the CHPID
 access from the four before changing them to *.

 When I go to dynamically implement the I/O gen, I get this message:

 _ EREASON=01A2,CANNOT DELETE PARTITION(S) FROM CHPID
 #  CANDIDATE LIST 00 IN IN CSS 0
 #   DESCTEXT=CHPID IS CONFIGURED TO ONE OR MORE AFFECTED
 #   PARTITIONS
 #   COMPID=SC1C3

 with this explanation:

  CHPID IS CONFIGURED TO ONE OR MORE AFFECTED PARTITIONS

   If the description of failure is the above, then the specified
 channel path is currently configured to one or more of the
 partitions that you requested to be conditionally deleted from
 the CHPID candidate list.  The system returns to the original
 configuration definition, unless a message is issued indicating
 that back-out failed.  Configure the channel path offline to the
 partition(s) that are being deleted from the CHPID candidate
 list. If successful, retry the activate request.  Only the first
 occurrence of a channel path being online for this reason is
 detected. Review other changes to ensure that the next ACTIVATE
 does not fail when the next occurrence is encountered.  An
 unconditional delete of partition(s) from CHPID candidate list,
 by specifying FORCE=CANDIDATE on the ACTIVATE command or
 activate panel, could also be considered. Refer to the ACTIVATE
 command documentation for a description of the ramifications of
 specifying an unconditional delete of partition(s) from a CHPID
 candidate list.

 I'm assuming that I would get this same message for every CHPID in sequence
 if this first one were to be resolved.


 I really don't see how this makes sense since none of the four LPARs are
 IPLed.  What is HCD really complaining about here and is it safe to do a
 FORCE=CANDIDATE in these circumstanes?

 Thank you for your assistance.

 Dick Bond
 State of Washington, Computer Technology Services

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Re: AUTO: Umberto Silvestri is prepared for DELETION (FREEZE)

2014-03-10 Thread Mike Schwab
I would think it is more retirement or transfer requiring a new email address.

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Grinsell, Don dgrins...@mt.gov wrote:
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Re: z/OS PKI Services HostIDMapping format

2014-03-10 Thread Phil Sidler
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:49:38 -0700, Donald J. dona...@4email.net wrote:

Yes, the script helps to identify some things.  What appilcation was it
working with?

IIRC, this was in combination with windows certreq to build  send a cert 
request to a windows active directory server to be signed and then the signed 
cert was used for CICS web services over SSL (from a windows client or IE). 

I am trying to generate a cert for an RDz client.  The RDz client
appears to try to be
intelligent and not allow bad parameters to be entered like a wrong
passphrase for a PKCS12.
It seems to reject all the certs I have tried.  I'm thinking maybe there
is a bug in the client.

For hostIdMappings, the CA that signs the certs has to be set up in the RACF 
CERTAUTH with HIGHTRUST which means RACF will trust certificates signed by the 
CA to provide credentials without the client cert itself being added to RACF.

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Re: RC 24 from ISRSUPC (Was 0C4 from TSOEXEC IEBCOMPR)

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7695529832117020.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
03/10/2014
   at 10:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

Yes, but I never claimed it was just REXX and TSO issues, merely
that there was a context in which EXEC worked but '%' didn't. 

No, what you claimed was There are parameter strings that I can pass
with EXEC that % disallows.
 
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Re: aes-ctr vs aes-cbc

2014-03-10 Thread Steve Finch
Some shops do not allow aes-cbc because of  the 'Padding Oracle Attack'  
problem, since AES-CBC uses padding. aes-ctr does not use padding

Also FIPS 140-2 was published in 2001 and last updated in 2002

Steve Finch
Recovery Point

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Subject: aes-ctr vs aes-cbc

We've been trying to migrate our ssh/sftp environment, for both our client and 
server users to only use FIPS-140-2 certified ciphers, and run ICSF in FIPS 
mode. We've had no problems doing so, except with one of our partners who 
states that their security policy will not allow their sftp server to accept 
data transmitted with any CBC cipher.

I tried adding the aes-ctr ciphers to our allowed list, but it doesn't look 
like ICSF can handle it, which is needed for ICSF to execute in FIPS mode.

It seems like I'm in a unresolvable problem from a technology standpoint, 
unless our partner changes their policy, which I don't understand why they 
don't allow FIPS-140-2 certified ciphers to be used.

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Re: DFHSM RECYCLE PROBLEM

2014-03-10 Thread Mike Wood
Could it be that the MCV record is serialized by hsm - because of the way hsm 
was abruptly stopped, and you just need to reset the hostid in the record?

Its been a long time for me, but have you looked at LIST command used with 
RESET and MIGRATIONVOLUME(volser) ???

Mike

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Re: AUTO: Umberto Silvestri is prepared for DELETION (FREEZE)

2014-03-10 Thread Charles Mills
On first glance misread your note as pink slip in my icebox.

Charles

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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:33 AM
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Subject: Re: AUTO: Umberto Silvestri is prepared for DELETION (FREEZE)

Bummer.  I think I'd much rather just get a pink slip in my inbox.

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Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m38usiot5y@garlic.com, on 03/10/2014
   at 01:33 PM, Anne  Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said:

2714

2741?
 
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Re: AUTO: Umberto Silvestri is prepared for DELETION (FREEZE)

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
cajtoo5-dfjpjdr4dvuvv-86mroezsjy2xrdb_lavzxsbb8g...@mail.gmail.com,
on 03/10/2014
   at 04:16 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:

I would think it is more retirement or transfer requiring a new email
address.

Regardless, IBM has had a problem with their OOO autoresponder for
years.
 
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Re: aes-ctr vs aes-cbc

2014-03-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Right.   As I understand this was a potential vulnerability in *some*
implementations.  According to IBM, there's does not, but some partners may
have it disabled.

IMO it is a good idea to submit your requirement to IBM to support AES CTR
mode in ICSF.  CTR mode also has the advantage of being able to
multi-thread encryption of packets, since each packet can be encrypted in
parallel.  There is nothing missing from CPACF instructions that is needed
- if you write directly to CPACF you can easily implement AES-CTR mode.


Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Steve Finch sfi...@recoverypoint.comwrote:

 Some shops do not allow aes-cbc because of  the 'Padding Oracle Attack'
  problem, since AES-CBC uses padding. aes-ctr does not use padding

 Also FIPS 140-2 was published in 2001 and last updated in 2002

 Steve Finch
 Recovery Point

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 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:02 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: aes-ctr vs aes-cbc

 We've been trying to migrate our ssh/sftp environment, for both our client
 and server users to only use FIPS-140-2 certified ciphers, and run ICSF in
 FIPS mode. We've had no problems doing so, except with one of our partners
 who states that their security policy will not allow their sftp server to
 accept data transmitted with any CBC cipher.

 I tried adding the aes-ctr ciphers to our allowed list, but it doesn't
 look like ICSF can handle it, which is needed for ICSF to execute in FIPS
 mode.

 It seems like I'm in a unresolvable problem from a technology standpoint,
 unless our partner changes their policy, which I don't understand why they
 don't allow FIPS-140-2 certified ciphers to be used.

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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Scott Ford
John,

Did you serve ?

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD




 On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:40 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Without conscription the fraction of Americans who have military
 experience is certainly now diminishing.  Let us hope that it will
 continue to drop, but I doubt that it will.  It diminished sharply
 after WWI, in the 1920s and 1930s; but WWII sent it up again, sharply
 .
 
 Moreover, our 'volunteer' American military is showing signs of
 fatigue.  Its members are being redeployed into combat zones much too
 frequently.  Their periods of respite are now, in the words of the
 Scots poet,  short and far between.
 
 My point was, however, a different one.  It was that if the millions
 of Americans who have served in the military were able to master the
 24-hour clock almost anyone else can do so too.  The intellectual
 difficulties of doing so have been greatly exaggerated.  American
 specialism about things like the 12-hour clock and the English
 system of weights and measures grows ever more tedious and
 dysfunctional.
 
 John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
 
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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread Scott Ford
In Europe we used the 24 hr clock...

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD




On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 Every American who has been in  the military has perforce mastered and used 
 the 24-hour clock.  
 
 A diminishing number of Americans have that experience.
 
 Bob Shannon
 Rocket Software
 
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Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread John Gilmore
The notion that Of course noon is PM is wholly inadmissible, indeed
obscene, to anyone for whom the equivalence 'post meridiem' = 'after
noon' is alive and immediate.

There is, I am sure, a generational difference here.  With Quine, I
also find the use of data in the singular obscene.  Worry not,
however!  Those of us who do will all be dead soon.

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Maestro to CA7

2014-03-10 Thread Meenakshi, Vinoth - CW
Hi All,

We are running CA7 11.3 and we are facing an issue with a batch job. The batch 
job is flowing from Maestro to CA7 and both are communicated with Tivoli 
workload scheduler(TWS)

Actually all Maestro jobs flows to CA7 through Console terminal (CTERM1) 
whereas on particular day it flows thru Batch terminal(BTERM1) and  the job got 
abended, below is the error message.

Error :
LJR CA7MVSDV00TWS0R5400101_27256139104 0003 --CA-7.822 - (BTERM1 ) 
CLOSED

Could you please look into it and help us.

Regards,
Vinoth M



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Re: AUTO: Umberto Silvestri is prepared for DELETION (FREEZE)

2014-03-10 Thread John Gilmore
Shmuel wrote:

begin extract
Regardless, IBM has had a problem with their OOO autoresponder for years
/end extract

This is not very interesting.  Worse, it is subliterate.  One of

...has...its...

or

...have...their...

would, while banal, be unexceptionable.  The construct

...has...their...

is subliterate.

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CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

2014-03-10 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Question for a CA-1 guru.
I have a CBRUXENT exit that defines the VTS, which I believe is necessary, but 
it also checks that the right CARTs care coming through. There are two 
operating modes which have different DEVSUP settings and different CA-1 TMC 
setups.
I suspect that checking the VOLSERS that appear is redundant.
Does anyone familiar with is complicated CA-1/OAM/SMS set up have any useful 
insight?

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Re: Maestro to CA7

2014-03-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Welcome. If you were not aware, there is a group on MYCA community for CA7
type questions. You may find a better audience there to help.  It is found
in SUPPORT.CA.COM


Also, have you contacted CA7 support on SUPPORT.CA.COM?  If so, what have
they suggested?



They should be able to help you.

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Meenakshi, Vinoth - CW
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:05 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Maestro to CA7
 
 Hi All,
 
 We are running CA7 11.3 and we are facing an issue with a batch job. The
batch job
 is flowing from Maestro to CA7 and both are communicated with Tivoli
workload
 scheduler(TWS)
 
 Actually all Maestro jobs flows to CA7 through Console terminal (CTERM1)
 whereas on particular day it flows thru Batch terminal(BTERM1) and  the
job got
 abended, below is the error message.
 
 Error :
 LJR CA7MVSDV00TWS0R5400101_27256139104 0003 --CA-
 7.822 - (BTERM1 ) CLOSED
 
 Could you please look into it and help us.
 
 Regards,
 Vinoth M
 

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Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

2014-03-10 Thread Thomas Conley

On 3/10/2014 10:32 PM, Anthony Fletcher wrote:

Question for a CA-1 guru.
I have a CBRUXENT exit that defines the VTS, which I believe is necessary, but 
it also checks that the right CARTs care coming through. There are two 
operating modes which have different DEVSUP settings and different CA-1 TMC 
setups.
I suspect that checking the VOLSERS that appear is redundant.
Does anyone familiar with is complicated CA-1/OAM/SMS set up have any useful 
insight?


Anthony,

All CBRUXENT does for CA-1 is convert the 8-character library name to 
ROBTYP and ROBID.  It's pretty straightforward.  DEVSUPxx should make no 
difference.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

2014-03-10 Thread Craig Pace
Anthony,

Wanting to make sure what you are asking.  Do you mean that you have two LPARs 
which share the same VTS hardware; however, don't share the TMC?  If your 
answer is yes, then are you also asking about making sure that LPAR1 does not 
insert tapes from LPAR2 and vice versa?

If there are correct, then let me know.  Using DEVSUP and minor exit changes to 
the CA-1 exits can take care of this without any issues.  Currently running 
that way today with a TS7740 and I have 5 separate TMCs using the save 
hardware, different volumes, different DEVSUP and minor USERMOD changes to 
prevent he LPAR from picking up the wrong tapes.




Thanks,

Craig
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Of Thomas Conley
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 22:34
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

On 3/10/2014 10:32 PM, Anthony Fletcher wrote:
 Question for a CA-1 guru.
 I have a CBRUXENT exit that defines the VTS, which I believe is necessary, 
 but it also checks that the right CARTs care coming through. There are two 
 operating modes which have different DEVSUP settings and different CA-1 TMC 
 setups.
 I suspect that checking the VOLSERS that appear is redundant.
 Does anyone familiar with is complicated CA-1/OAM/SMS set up have any useful 
 insight?

Anthony,

All CBRUXENT does for CA-1 is convert the 8-character library name to ROBTYP 
and ROBID.  It's pretty straightforward.  DEVSUPxx should make no difference.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

2014-03-10 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Craig

Yes, that is exactly the environment.


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From:   Craig Pace craig.p...@fotlinc.com
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Date:   11/03/2014 16:42
Subject:Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment
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Anthony,

Wanting to make sure what you are asking.  Do you mean that you have two
LPARs which share the same VTS hardware; however, don't share the TMC?  If
your answer is yes, then are you also asking about making sure that LPAR1
does not insert tapes from LPAR2 and vice versa?

If there are correct, then let me know.  Using DEVSUP and minor exit
changes to the CA-1 exits can take care of this without any issues.
Currently running that way today with a TS7740 and I have 5 separate TMCs
using the save hardware, different volumes, different DEVSUP and minor
USERMOD changes to prevent he LPAR from picking up the wrong tapes.




Thanks,

Craig
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Thomas Conley
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 22:34
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

On 3/10/2014 10:32 PM, Anthony Fletcher wrote:
 Question for a CA-1 guru.
 I have a CBRUXENT exit that defines the VTS, which I believe is
necessary, but it also checks that the right CARTs care coming through.
There are two operating modes which have different DEVSUP settings and
different CA-1 TMC setups.
 I suspect that checking the VOLSERS that appear is redundant.
 Does anyone familiar with is complicated CA-1/OAM/SMS set up have any
useful insight?

Anthony,

All CBRUXENT does for CA-1 is convert the 8-character library name to
ROBTYP and ROBID.  It's pretty straightforward.  DEVSUPxx should make no
difference.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

2014-03-10 Thread Craig Pace
Anthony,

Okay.  Just wanted to make sure before I gave you things that would not help 
you.

It is not that bad and you just need to make sure of the following.

1)  Make sure you do have a separate values in your DEVSUPxx for each LPAR.  I 
use the first two positions as my LPAR and leave the last two to match the 
defaults.  Example, MEDIA1=1001, MEDIA2=1002,.MEDIA10=100A,ERROR=100E and 
PRIVATE=100F for LPAR1 and then use 20xx for LPAR2.

2)  You need to make sure you have USERMOD CL05244 installed.  Make sure you 
update CTSUXENT with your library name(s).

3)  In your CTSUXENT module, add some code like the code below.  Pay attention 
that columns 72-80 are important to insert into the correct location of your 
current source.  My code is set up to perform this check at the very beginning 
so that we don't do anything if the tape is not correct.  I have the sequence 
numbers set to update the mode and added in after the Load Address (LA) of 
ATLTABLE into R9 and before the ATLFIND DSECT.  In the case below, it could 
have been done with one check; however, it was set up to allow for multiple 
prefixes, if needed.

./ CHANGE NAME=CTSUXENT
*   01790100
* @MYCO - ADDED THE VOLUME SECTIONS TO ONLY PROCESS THE REQUIRED *  01790110
* TAPES DEPENDING ON THE LPAR AND LEAVE THE REMAINING*  01790120
* TAPES FOR THE OTHER OAM SYSTEMS TO PROCESS.  MVSX LPAR *  01790130
*   01790140
CHKVOL   DS0H   01790150
 CLC   WKVOLSER(2),=C'XN'  IS THIS A MVSX NATIVE ATL2?  01790200
 BEACCTAPENO LEAVE FOR OTHER OAM01790210
 CLC   WKVOLSER(1),=C'X'   IS THIS A MVSX VIRTUAL VTS2? 01790220
 BNE   RC16   NO LEAVE FOR OTHER OAM01790230
ACCTAPE  DS0H   01790240
* @MYCO - END OF MYCO CUSTOM CODE   01790250
*   01790260

4)  Make sure your CA-1 version of CBRUXENT, CBRUXEJC and CBRUXVNL are applied 
to the z/OS system to override the IBM RMM default delivered in LINKLIB.

5)  Make sure CA-1 is up and running BEFORE OAM is started.  IF not, the exits 
will not be there to REJECT the tapes.


I hope this helps.  Please feel free to contact me off-line if needed.




Thanks,

Craig

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Craig

Yes, that is exactly the environment.


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Date:   11/03/2014 16:42
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Anthony,

Wanting to make sure what you are asking.  Do you mean that you have two LPARs 
which share the same VTS hardware; however, don't share the TMC?  If your 
answer is yes, then are you also asking about making sure that LPAR1 does not 
insert tapes from LPAR2 and vice versa?

If there are correct, then let me know.  Using DEVSUP and minor exit changes to 
the CA-1 exits can take care of this without any issues.
Currently running that way today with a TS7740 and I have 5 separate TMCs using 
the save hardware, different volumes, different DEVSUP and minor USERMOD 
changes to prevent he LPAR from picking up the wrong tapes.




Thanks,

Craig
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 22:34
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Subject: Re: CBRUXENT using CA-1 in VTS 7700 environment

On 3/10/2014 10:32 PM, Anthony Fletcher wrote:
 Question for a CA-1 guru.
 I have a CBRUXENT exit that defines the VTS, which I believe is
necessary, but it also checks that the right CARTs care coming through.
There are two operating modes 

Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread zMan
What am I missing? How does using a 24-hour clock help here with the OP's
problem?

My suggestion would be to report in GMT and ignore timezones, but I'm sure
that won't fly...


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:07 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:

 The notion that Of course noon is PM is wholly inadmissible, indeed
 obscene, to anyone for whom the equivalence 'post meridiem' = 'after
 noon' is alive and immediate.

 There is, I am sure, a generational difference here.  With Quine, I
 also find the use of data in the singular obscene.  Worry not,
 however!  Those of us who do will all be dead soon.

 John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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