Re: another question about TSO edit command
In6487334105557425.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/30/2014 at 06:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: That is one of the dumbest, most hostile behaviors I have ever seen in an editor (but TSO edit isn't unique here). If I do a find and get no hits (very possibly because I mistyped the search target) a well-behaved editor should leave the file position unchanged. I disagree, although having an option would be more user friendly, as would optional first and last operands on FIND. Additionally to Pauls' remark let me point to the powerful Macro Facility of ISPF EDIT. You can easliy -if you want- create a personal, let's say XFIND, command, that remembers the cursor position and stays on the last found line in case no further hits are found. Arthur -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another question about TSO edit command
Arthur Fichtl has made a very important point. The world is what it is; and systems behave as they behave, distressing some and pleasing others. Macro facilities can be used to mitigate, even eliminate such perceived deficiencies. In particular, Paul Gilmartin can have something closer to his heart's desire without depriving others of behavior they prefer, perhaps only because it is what they are accustomed to. The notion that things can function as we would wish ab initio, out of the box, and without programming, is a naif, utopian one. Worse, it is certainly chimerical. None of us can have things the way we want them all or even most of the time because others want them different. The best we can hope for is a set of primitives, building blocks, that is complete in the sense that they can be used together to build much more complex, disparate facilities. They and their completeness; not lamentation about the notional inadequacies of others' designs, should be the focus of our attention. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another question about TSO edit command
On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:47:23 +0200, Arthur Fichtl wrote: ... a well-behaved editor should leave the file position unchanged. I disagree, although having an option would be more user friendly, as would optional first and last operands on FIND. (Why doesn't your Reply facility distinguish quoted text!? I suppose this is YA matter of personal preference.) Additionally to Pauls' remark let me point to the powerful Macro Facility of ISPF EDIT. You can easliy -if you want- create a personal, let's say XFIND, command, that remembers the cursor position and stays on the last found line in case no further hits are found. ??? Why a macro? In my experience the native behavior of ISPF EDIT is to leave the cursor position unchanged when no further hit is found. (And I prefer unchanged over last found line for the cases when the cursor was most recently positioned by other than a FIND command.) On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 07:49:52 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: The best we can hope for is a set of primitives, building blocks, that is complete in the sense that they can be used together to build much more complex, disparate facilities. They and their completeness; not lamentation about the notional inadequacies of others' designs, should be the focus of our attention. I had become slightly familiar with ISPF EDIT before I encountered XEDIT. Then I found it particularly irritating that XEDIT always scrolls the view to position the located target on a fixed screen line (even though that can be configured). I wrote a set of macros to emulate the ISPF behavior. Looking back, it was a mistake -- the ROI never offset the resource used. Worse yet, development by the vendor has modified the primitives so my macros no longer work as designed. The primitives were inadequate. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another question about TSO edit command
On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:36:30 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Worse yet, development by the vendor has modified the primitives so my macros no longer work as designed. The primitives were inadequate. An inherent limitation of macros. I have never been enamoured by ISPF edit macros. A plugin API would be nice - but then we'd need some decent scripting language(s). Dave, where's that lua port ;o) Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS HTTP free Web Server
Hello Dave, I had some experience with IHS for z/OS, I used to write simple code in GWAPI and have some samples. You can send me your questions and I'll try to answer to my best ability. Arye Shemer. On 31 July 2014 19:40, Dave Day dave...@colesoft.com wrote: If there is someone on this list who has experience using this web server and who would be willing to spend some of their time discussing this with me, please respond with contact info. I don't think I need a whole lot of your time, but would like to get some basic questions out of the way. The questions arise from reading 'HTTP Planning, Installing, and Using'. In particular, the usage of CGI vs. FastCGI vs. GWAPI. --Dave Day -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Nice free hex calculator for phones
FYI downloaded and installed Hex Plus for Android from the Google Play store. Nice clean user interface. Free. No problems so far. Displays decimal, Hex, Bit, and your choice of another base (default Octal) simultaneously, so in hex input mode simply keying in a B shows 11, 13, B and 1011 without pressing any other keys. No advertising. No special permissions. Shifts, AND, XOR etc. 63 bit capacity. Don't know if there is an iOS version, and no, I am not affiliated with the publisher. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Nice free hex calculator for phones
Charles, When I put hex plus into the search field as two words, I get over 250 hits. How is the author of this calculator? Thanks, Chuck Charles (Chuck) Hardee Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration CCG Information Technology Thermo Fisher Scientific 300 Industry Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15275 Direct: 724-517-2633 FAX: 412-490-9230 chuck.har...@thermofisher.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Nice free hex calculator for phones FYI downloaded and installed Hex Plus for Android from the Google Play store. Nice clean user interface. Free. No problems so far. Displays decimal, Hex, Bit, and your choice of another base (default Octal) simultaneously, so in hex input mode simply keying in a B shows 11, 13, B and 1011 without pressing any other keys. No advertising. No special permissions. Shifts, AND, XOR etc. 63 bit capacity. Don't know if there is an iOS version, and no, I am not affiliated with the publisher. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Nice free hex calculator for phones
Sorry. Duncan Watson. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HexPlushl=en Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hardee, Chuck Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Nice free hex calculator for phones Charles, When I put hex plus into the search field as two words, I get over 250 hits. How is the author of this calculator? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Nice free hex calculator for phones
Thanks, got it. Charles (Chuck) Hardee Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration CCG Information Technology Thermo Fisher Scientific 300 Industry Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15275 Direct: 724-517-2633 FAX: 412-490-9230 chuck.har...@thermofisher.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Nice free hex calculator for phones Sorry. Duncan Watson. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HexPlushl=en Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hardee, Chuck Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Nice free hex calculator for phones Charles, When I put hex plus into the search field as two words, I get over 250 hits. How is the author of this calculator? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: LE APAR PM99349
In 53dbaa60.90...@us.ibm.com, on 08/01/2014 at 10:55 AM, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com said: All information about security and integrity problems is available only to customers who agree to keep it confidential, and available only through the security portal. Does the creator of a security ETR have the option to exclude critical details from the security portal? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Beginners question about SHARE
In CAFO-8toXZVuR4kOr_J47RNs4d4bJMrydsk-6=jmnfbhorqs...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/01/2014 at 11:52 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: Now who's confused? Where did Charles even suggest that anyone here wanted small companies or unaffiliated students to stay out? When he wrote 'I think the attacks are a good illustration of the it's OUR club -- you stay out of it attitude.' I have seen no signs of such an attitude. Hint: If there's a perceived problem, there's a problem. That doesn't justify misrepresenting the attitudes of the list members. Such misrepresentations simply reduce the credibility of the complainer. If Charles perceives problems that he would like to see addressed, then his best option is to stick to the facts. He owes us an apology. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another question about TSO edit command
In 7830856811578828.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/01/2014 at 02:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: What does repeat FIND do once you're at the end of the file? I just noticed this: If you do not specify any operands, the operands you specified last with FIND are used. The search for the specified string begins at the line following the current line. If you issue the TOP subcommand, the search for the specified string begins with the second line of the data set. Second? Boo! Too bad that TSO EDIT is functionally stabilized. So can one use ISPF Edit in line mode? No, AFAIK, but one can drive it with a macro. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another question about TSO edit command
On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 21:21:08 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: What does repeat FIND do once you're at the end of the file? I just noticed this: If you do not specify any operands, the operands you specified last with FIND are used. The search for the specified string begins at the line following the current line. If you issue the TOP subcommand, the search for the specified string begins with the second line of the data set. Second? Boo! Slavish adherence to specifications. Probably: o Repeat Find makes current the next line after the current whch contains the target. o TOP makes the first line current. You're already there. Searching the current line and going there again would be a no-op. (I once knew a college dormitory elevator which, if one pressed the button for the current floor and hopped out before the door closed, became catatonic, requiring a service call. Similar phenomenon.) Too bad that TSO EDIT is functionally stabilized. But ISPF edit behaves better. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
