Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote:

 (We need a new group, alt.ibm-main.nostalgia, or the like.)

and Tony's Outlook via Mozilla wrote:

We've got one, it's called IBM-MAIN, :-)

My oh my! ;-)

That famous list contains: OT, nostalgia, OT, trivia, OT, discussion about any 
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ads, more and more OT, etc.

Uhmmm, I think I should perhaps add 'mainframe (including z/OS) discussions', 
just to be fair... ;-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: DB2 V11 STCK

2015-03-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:09:17 +0200, Arie Kremer wrote:

2015-03-24 14:34:27.567264 - STCK converted to the local time
2015-03-24 14:53:31.792324 - the value of TIMESTAMP column set to CURRENT
TIMESTAMP

Which is correct according to a good wristwatch or smartphone?

What does the TIME macro return?  (LOCAL and GMT)

What does STCK followed by STCKCONF return (what time zone are you in?)

Is it possible that your (E)TOD clock is running unregulated but an operator
has compensated with a command that adjusts CVTLDTO but does not
adjust the (E)TOD clocl?

What are the contents (hex) of CVTLDTO and CVTLSO?

Does DB2 have its own internal time offset?  (I should hope not.)

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DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread willie bunter
Hallo All,

 I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:

ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679  
ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC, 
ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC 
IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
HSM.HSMPDOXC  
ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682  
ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3   

I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :

A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set

It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  Could 
this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both PDA dsns.

Could someone shed some light on this?

Thanks.

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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

2015-03-30 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 06:54:57 -0500, John McKown wrote:


To me, one of the biggest pluses is the hardware memory key. As now
used by z/OS, it really helps with reliability because, properly used,
it enforces separation of authority (ability to write) by major OS
subsystem.  E.g. JES2 code can't step on VTAM memory in common
storage.

 Certainly an effective accommodation to the single address space limitation
 of its time.  but consider the gyrations the TSO TMP performs to run
 a mixture of privileged and unprivileged tasks in a single address space.
 (It might be better if all authorized programs had the discipline to
 obtain storage only in system key and unauthorized were restricted to
 user key, and if instead of JSCBAUTH there were a similar flag, but
 with TCB rather than job step scope so subtasks could be dispatched in
 suitable PSW keys.  Alas, no one anticipated,)

Well, with APF code, you could create a new JSCB to be used with the
ATTACHX macro. The new JSCB would be associated with the new TCB and
have the JSCBAUTH bit OFF. Unfortunately, this still has a security
hole due to the fact that the APF code and the non-APF code are
running in the same address space and likely both going to be running
in key 8. And so the unauthorized code could possibly corrupt (perhaps
maliciously) the memory of the APF code, causing it to do bad
things.

This is one main reason why I prefer the UNIX fork() philosophy rather
than threading. At least when the other code is not under my
personal control. Too bad that creating a new z/OS address space is so
expensive compared to something like Linux. Of course, one reason is
due to the fact that a z/OS address space has a lot of system level
TCBs set up inside it before the user code is even looked at. Which
explains the use of the BPXAS UNIX initiator address spaces.


 Nowadays, isn't segment protection with multiple address spaces a better
 approach?

That doesn't protect memory in COMMON storage such as ECSA. It is
significantly better than MVT's use of different keys 1..15 to
separate memory for regions in real memory. Of course, IBM has done
some really good things to reduce use of COMMON storage, such as dual
address space, and especially AR mode. But I still like the isolation
of protect keys. Maybe I'm just old fashioned in this regard .


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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

2015-03-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 06:54:57 -0500, John McKown wrote:

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:36 AM, Ed Finnell wrote:
 Good, bad or indifferent IBM-Main is coming up on 29 yrs( in June).
 
Only 29?  I thought OS/MVT/ASP, the focus of the drift, was quite
obsolescent 29 years ago.

Let's all thank Mark Post for supplying interesting, relevant, timely 
information.

 Be interesting to see a survey of biggest advances, or biggest  blunders
 since we started.

Channeling gil: EBCDIC!
 
The classic:
http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM

(I wonder who has been maintaining the site for the last 11 years?)

To me, one of the biggest pluses is the hardware memory key. As now
used by z/OS, it really helps with reliability because, properly used,
it enforces separation of authority (ability to write) by major OS
subsystem.  E.g. JES2 code can't step on VTAM memory in common
storage.
 
Certainly an effective accommodation to the single address space limitation
of its time.  but consider the gyrations the TSO TMP performs to run
a mixture of privileged and unprivileged tasks in a single address space.
(It might be better if all authorized programs had the discipline to
obtain storage only in system key and unauthorized were restricted to
user key, and if instead of JSCBAUTH there were a similar flag, but
with TCB rather than job step scope so subtasks could be dispatched in
suitable PSW keys.  Alas, no one anticipated,)

Nowadays, isn't segment protection with multiple address spaces a better
approach?

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Re: DB2 V11 STCK

2015-03-30 Thread Arie Kremer
Many thanks Paul for the fast reply.

As I wrote, this z/OS and DB2 V11 instance was generated for my playing
with IFI :), and so the timing was probably not configured correct. So, the
only thing I must have known is: whether in a real production DB2 instance
this situation may have happened.
In any case, the TIMESTAMP column contains the correct local time, exactly
as the time printed on the operator console, and this is the TIME return.
STCK in the Log Structure is UTC of course, and I converted it to the local
time to compare.

Unregulated (E)TOD may be the interesting direction...

Btw, I have another question
I tried to use WQALMODL request (LRSN DELTA) of IFI 306. I understand that
without the Data Sharing this request has no sense. In any case, wanted to
see what will happen. IFI returned an undocumented reason 00E60877. Is it
correct? What this reason means?

Best Regards and Many Thanks
Arie Kremer


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:09:17 +0200, Arie Kremer wrote:
 
 2015-03-24 14:34:27.567264 - STCK converted to the local time
 2015-03-24 14:53:31.792324 - the value of TIMESTAMP column set to CURRENT
 TIMESTAMP
 
 Which is correct according to a good wristwatch or smartphone?

 What does the TIME macro return?  (LOCAL and GMT)

 What does STCK followed by STCKCONF return (what time zone are you in?)

 Is it possible that your (E)TOD clock is running unregulated but an
 operator
 has compensated with a command that adjusts CVTLDTO but does not
 adjust the (E)TOD clocl?

 What are the contents (hex) of CVTLDTO and CVTLSO?

 Does DB2 have its own internal time offset?  (I should hope not.)

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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
EE, you made me laugh out loud this morning.  For the record let's add 
PDSE jihads, semantics jousting, SMPE rules of engagement, what 
constitutes an empty file sparring, and revision of revisionist history 
revision.





On 3/30/2015 3:00 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:

Paul Gilmartin wrote:


(We need a new group, alt.ibm-main.nostalgia, or the like.)


and Tony's Outlook via Mozilla wrote:


We've got one, it's called IBM-MAIN, :-)


My oh my! ;-)

That famous list contains: OT, nostalgia, OT, trivia, OT, discussion about any 
computers except mainframes, flaming bickering amongst members, jokes, puns, 
ads, more and more OT, etc.

Uhmmm, I think I should perhaps add 'mainframe (including z/OS) discussions', 
just to be fair... ;-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

2015-03-30 Thread Mohammad Khan
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:07:02 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:


To me, one of the biggest pluses is the hardware memory key. As now
used by z/OS, it really helps with reliability because, properly used,
it enforces separation of authority (ability to write) by major OS
subsystem.  E.g. JES2 code can't step on VTAM memory in common
storage.
 
Certainly an effective accommodation to the single address space limitation
of its time.  but consider the gyrations the TSO TMP performs to run
a mixture of privileged and unprivileged tasks in a single address space.
(It might be better if all authorized programs had the discipline to
obtain storage only in system key and unauthorized were restricted to
user key, and if instead of JSCBAUTH there were a similar flag, but
with TCB rather than job step scope so subtasks could be dispatched in
suitable PSW keys.  Alas, no one anticipated,)

Nowadays, isn't segment protection with multiple address spaces a better
approach?


Yes, but only to a certain extent as different address spaces still have some 
common areas. Moreover application servers ( CICS, WAS ) running transactions 
on behalf of multiple users in the same address space are conceptually not that 
different from MVT.

Mohammad

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette,

I checked last week's STC there is no record of the logs being swapped.  I 
stumbled on some procedures and the first last step in it is to do a HSEND 
SETSYS PDA(ON) and the last step is to do a HSEND SETSYS PDA(OFF)

I assume that the PDA is set to OFF when the STC starts up.

The dsns are written on DASD.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread John McKown
The problem is the S413-04 abend. Basically this says that there is a
problem opening with HSM.HSMPDOCX. In particular not all volumes can
be mounted. What volume is this DSN catalogued on? Is that volume
on-line to your system? We had a similar problem when some
accidentally did a VARY ,OFFLINE and the volume was 'PENDING
OFFLINE' in the D U display. A simple VARY ,ONLINE fixed the
problem for us. Hopefully it is as simple for you.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, willie bunter
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 Hallo All,

  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:

 ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
 ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
 ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
 IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
 HSM.HSMPDOXC
 ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
 ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3

 I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :

 A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set

 It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  
 Could this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both 
 PDA dsns.

 Could someone shed some light on this?

 Thanks.

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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread Steve Thompson

And then there is the topic/subject Hijack...

Pulling from history, I got assigned to work on a 
Univac/Varian/DEC project to support the Space shuttle over at 
the Goddard Space Flight Center for NASA Ultimately required 
that I put some diodes together with some resistors... Got the 
16bit DEC to talk with the 36bit Univac Finally had to write 
two different checkout compilers. Meanwhile they had a 
S/360-195


Yeah, right.

On 03/30/2015 09:21 AM, Tony's Outlook via Mozilla wrote:

EE, you made me laugh out loud this morning.  For the record
let's add PDSE jihads, semantics jousting, SMPE rules of
engagement, what constitutes an empty file sparring, and
revision of revisionist history revision.




On 3/30/2015 3:00 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:

Paul Gilmartin wrote:

SNIPPAGE

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette,

Sorry I forgot to answer the question about the size of the dsns.  This is what 
it is at:

Organization  . . . : PS Current Utilization 
Record format . . . : VB  Used cylinders  . . : 158  
Record length . . . : 1024Used extents  . . . : 16   
Block size  . . . . : 27652  
1st extent cylinders: 128
Secondary cylinders : 2  Dates

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Our site have been running into this problem for months.  You can only
have 2 *.HSMPDO* datasets on one volume.  When one fills ups, HSM
switches datasets (via a rename) and a task is submitted to write out
the full one to *.PDA GDG PS dataset.  If one dataset fills up before
the other one is emptied, the writing to the HSMPDO datasets is
stopped and you get this list of messages.  The only solution is to
increase the size of the HSMPDO datasets until you don't get this
message any more.  Suggested sizing per IBM manual is 1-3 hours of
output per HSMPDO.  The problem comes during migration periods where
it is filling and swapping every few minutes until it completes.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, willie bunter
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 Hallo All,

  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:

 ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
 ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
 ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
 IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
 HSM.HSMPDOXC
 ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
 ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3

 I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :

 A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set

 It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  
 Could this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both 
 PDA dsns.

 Could someone shed some light on this?

 Thanks.

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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 20150329212721.GB25599@dlc-dt, on 03/29/2015
   at 05:27 PM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com said:

Schmuel

That's Shmuel. And don't forget Tom Kern.

are any neurons being triggered

Giss could only run VM on the 470V/6; when they shipped that to GMSF
at GSFC, they were left running a single instance of SSS, albeit on a
very fast machine.

GISS submitted jobs to us (GMSF) over the telephone, and was racking
up a sizable telephone bill. They asked us whether we could support a
tie line[1], which would cost less than the long distance charges. We
told them that it looks like any other dial connection, so we wouldn't
neeed to change a thing.

Comes the day, a technician from CP]2] wants to know where to install
the 208-A[3[6]]. You mean 208-B[4]. No, 208-A. It seems that some
smart feller in procurement had asked GISS wheat numbers they would
be calling, and when he heard that it was always the same number he
changed the PO to a lease line, but couldn't be bothered to ask
whether it would actually work[5]. Fortunately we had a spare lease
line adaptor on our Memorex 1270[6], but I was still ready to burn the
procurement monkey at the stake.

[1] A fixed long distant connection to a remote local office. Calls
are billed based on teir relationship to the remote end.

[2] Now part of Verizon (ptui!).

[3] 4800 bps synchronous 4-wire modem for leased line.

[4] 4800 bps synchronous 2-wire modem for dialup.

[5] Not with a dialup adapter, it wouldn't.

[6] There's another 208-A story for another day. Tom probably
 remembers it.
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
I verified the volumes are ONLINE for the PDA dsns.  Something also very 
strange.  I was under the impression that the HSM.HSMPDOXC  the HSM.HSMPDOYC 
were never re-allocated and were reused everytime HSM STC was started up.  For 
some reason I noticed that the dsns were on different volumes the week 
previous.  I will have to check the SMF records to fine the reson.

Do both the HSM.HSMPDOXC  HSM.HSMPDOyC have to reside on the same volume?

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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

2015-03-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 39bc7.33e0233e.424a7...@aol.com, on 03/30/2015
   at 05:36 AM, Ed Finnell
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:

Be interesting to see a survey of biggest advances, or biggest 
blunders since we started.

Sometimes they're the same, e.g., Project Stretch may have been the
most profitable failure IBM ever had.
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Staller, Allan
Yes. From the Fine Manual: DFSMShsm Implementation and Customization Guide 
Version 2 Release 1   PP 41-42_ SC23-6869-01 (z/OS 2.1)

quote
Storage guidance:
Both the ARCPDOX and ARCPDOY data sets must be on the same volume.
The amount and type of storage you use for your PDA log data sets depends
on how much trace history you want to keep. To determine the amount and
type of storage, you can use either the short-term work sheet found in
“Problem determination aid log data set size work sheet—Short-term trace
history” on page 388 or the long-term work sheet found in “Problem
determination aid log data set size work sheet—Long-term trace history” on
page 390.
/quote

I doubt this is a new requirement. It has most likely been there for eons…

snip
Do both the HSM.HSMPDOXC  HSM.HSMPDOyC have to reside on the same volume?
/snip


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Willie,

How often do you swap PDA and LOGs for HSM. You should have a process that
will offload them when a B37 occurs.

Is this DASD or TAPE datasets?  If DASD, what is the size/space used?


Lizette


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 On Behalf Of willie bunter
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 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM
 PROBLEM
 
 Hallo All,
 
  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:
 
 ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
 ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
 ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
 IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
 HSM.HSMPDOXC
 ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
 ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3
 
 I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :
 
 A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set
 
 It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.
Could
 this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both PDA
 dsns.
 
 Could someone shed some light on this?
 
 Thanks.
 

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AW: GPMSERVE - Trace Option

2015-03-30 Thread Christian Birr
Jake,
IIRC trace is off by default at startup. Additionally, in my GPMSERVE proc 
SYSPRINT and SYSOUT are set to dummy and GPMSRV00 I set DEBUG_LEVEL(0).
Christian

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Gesendet: Montag, 30. März 2015 13:24
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Betreff: GPMSERVE - Trace Option

Hello,

Can we permanently disable the Trace option instead of F GPMSERVE,TRACEOFF ? I 
am not finding any clue in the manual to do the permanent TRACEOFF.

Any suggestion or advise ?

Jake

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Willie -


Do you have automation in place so that when the PDA gets a D37 it swaps the 
log? 

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1012687

IEC031I D37-04,IFG0554P,HSM,HSM,ARCPDOX,3099,HSMP05,MYHSM.LPAR7.HSMPDOX 
  

OPS1181O HSM OPSS (*Local*) MVS N/A MESSAGE.ARC0037I START OPSSJOB,N=PDALPAR7   

START OPSSJOB,N=PDALPAR7 

ARC0037I HSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA 968 
ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=MYHSM.LPAR7.HSMPDOX,  
ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=MYHSM.LPAR7.HSMPDOY  


Mine at 1500 cylinders each

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 Lizette,
 
 I checked last week's STC there is no record of the logs being swapped.  I
 stumbled on some procedures and the first last step in it is to do a HSEND
 SETSYS PDA(ON) and the last step is to do a HSEND SETSYS PDA(OFF)
 
 I assume that the PDA is set to OFF when the STC starts up.
 
 The dsns are written on DASD.
 
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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

2015-03-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
caajsdjhwaswhnq89sqoebd5bny1eccsiqrizzyyfg1rgkz3...@mail.gmail.com,
on 03/30/2015
   at 06:54 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:

To me, one of the biggest pluses is the hardware memory key. 

Better than nothing, and available before S/360 supported virtual
memory, but inferior to other mechanisms. I'll take segment/ring-based
protection any day. Even block relocation is arguably better.
 
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GPMSERVE - Trace Option

2015-03-30 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello,

Can we permanently disable the Trace option instead of F GPMSERVE,TRACEOFF
? I am not finding any clue in the manual to do the permanent TRACEOFF.

Any suggestion or advise ?

Jake

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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

2015-03-30 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:36 AM, Ed Finnell
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 Good, bad or indifferent IBM-Main is coming up on 29 yrs( in June).

 Be interesting to see a survey of biggest advances, or biggest  blunders
 since we started.

Channeling gil: EBCDIC!

To me, one of the biggest pluses is the hardware memory key. As now
used by z/OS, it really helps with reliability because, properly used,
it enforces separation of authority (ability to write) by major OS
subsystem.  E.g. JES2 code can't step on VTAM memory in common
storage.

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Re: Outstanding DAF S0C4's

2015-03-30 Thread Jousma, David
Michael,

Any update to your update plans?

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Greetings,

I am working on an update to DAF and want to correct this issue.

1) What level of DAF are you running?

2)  Does it always S0C4 or is it intermittent ?  Any patterns?

3)  Can you send me the entire job output from the S0C4, excluding the dump.

Thanks...

Michael Cleary

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Allan,

No, they both do not reside on the same volume.  I think someone moved the dsns 
to different volumes.  I will check the SMF records to find out more details.

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Non sequitur cartoon that applies to us.

2015-03-30 Thread John McKown
http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/nonsequitur/s-1630199

This reminds me of some of our discussions on the list.


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette,

I scanned through the whole output but there was no  IEC031I D37-04.  However 
I remember in the past seeing those messages especially when I was migrating 
volumes.  Unfortunately the STC output is only available for the past 2 
startups and both do not have the IEC031I D37-04

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Staller, Allan
Additional Information:

The HSMPDO datasets are expected to be re-used by DFhsm. The HSMPDOX/Y datasets 
are toggled  as needed.
I would allocate them a some specific size w/no secondary extents. When HSMPDOX 
is filled, HSM will automatically switch to HSMPDOY.
When HSMPDOY is filled, HSM will automatically switch back to HSMPDOX.

HTH,

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Yes. From the Fine Manual: DFSMShsm Implementation and Customization Guide 
Version 2 Release 1   PP 41-42_ SC23-6869-01 (z/OS 2.1)

quote
Storage guidance:
Both the ARCPDOX and ARCPDOY data sets must be on the same volume.
The amount and type of storage you use for your PDA log data sets depends on 
how much trace history you want to keep. To determine the amount and type of 
storage, you can use either the short-term work sheet found in “Problem 
determination aid log data set size work sheet—Short-term trace history” on 
page 388 or the long-term work sheet found in “Problem determination aid log 
data set size work sheet—Long-term trace history” on page 390.
/quote

I doubt this is a new requirement. It has most likely been there for eons…

snip
Do both the HSM.HSMPDOXC  HSM.HSMPDOyC have to reside on the same volume?
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Alan,

Thanks for the tip.  I will reallocate the dsns on the same volume with a 
larger space.  Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Non sequitur cartoon that applies to us.

2015-03-30 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
And in color:
http://assets.amuniversal.com/cdddeb80b4a70132d1fb005056a9545d


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http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/nonsequitur/s-1630199

This reminds me of some of our discussions on the list.


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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread Richard Pinion
JES2 was a half ASP project.



--- dlc@gmail.com wrote:

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To:   IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The 
Mainframe - Forbes
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:38:59 -0400

On 15Mar29:1833-0400, David L. Craig wrote:

 It's interesting to see how it's been marked up to note the
 differences since the application was migrated to the 3081
 running MVS.  Nancy is Nancy L. Palm who is the sysprog
 I'm trying to track down.  It's unclear to me from the
 listings if it's ASP or HASP--whatever it was was highly modded,
 IIRC. ;-)

Nancy (now Assistant Chief) confirmed the 91 did not use ASP.
So I was wrong.  Where's my ceremonial sword?  Hopefully I
won't get that wrong. ;-)
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 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar29:1833-0400, David L. Craig wrote:

 It's interesting to see how it's been marked up to note the
 differences since the application was migrated to the 3081
 running MVS.  Nancy is Nancy L. Palm who is the sysprog
 I'm trying to track down.  It's unclear to me from the
 listings if it's ASP or HASP--whatever it was was highly modded,
 IIRC. ;-)

Nancy (now Assistant Chief) confirmed the 91 did not use ASP.
So I was wrong.  Where's my ceremonial sword?  Hopefully I
won't get that wrong. ;-)
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May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

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Re: Non sequitur cartoon that applies to us.

2015-03-30 Thread Scott Ford
Love it, dude

On Monday, March 30, 2015, Nims,Alva John (Al) ajn...@ufl.edu wrote:

 And in color:
 http://assets.amuniversal.com/cdddeb80b4a70132d1fb005056a9545d


 Al Nims
 Systems Admin/Programmer 3
 Information Technology
 University of Florida
 (352) 273-1298

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 http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/nonsequitur/s-1630199

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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread Scott Ford
Hey David,

Nobody's perfect dude

On Monday, March 30, 2015, Richard Pinion rpin...@netscape.com wrote:

 JES2 was a half ASP project.



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 From: David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com javascript:;
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 Subject: Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's
 The Mainframe - Forbes
 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:38:59 -0400

 On 15Mar29:1833-0400, David L. Craig wrote:

  It's interesting to see how it's been marked up to note the
  differences since the application was migrated to the 3081
  running MVS.  Nancy is Nancy L. Palm who is the sysprog
  I'm trying to track down.  It's unclear to me from the
  listings if it's ASP or HASP--whatever it was was highly modded,
  IIRC. ;-)

 Nancy (now Assistant Chief) confirmed the 91 did not use ASP.
 So I was wrong.  Where's my ceremonial sword?  Hopefully I
 won't get that wrong. ;-)
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 May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

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Re: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

2015-03-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Eileen,

Not what the CICS sysprog wanted, I guess.

Bob

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If you have so many CICS logs, why not use DASDONLY for the logs instead of the 
coupling facility?

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Subject: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

I have a coworker that wants to increase the LOGSNUM value of the structure 
defined for numerous CICS  DFHLOG logstreams.

Can this be done dynamically and will we have to make sure that all regions are 
down and delete/define with the larger value.

I have tried RTFM but it was not intuitively obvious.

Bob


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Re: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

2015-03-30 Thread Barkow, Eileen
From what I can see, the entire log stream structure would have to be deleted 
and redefined in order to increase LOGSNUM.

According to this from z/os, it looks like the log streams would have to be 
disconnected in order to update LOGSNUM.
But CICS TS 5.1 will not let you disconnect the main journal DFHLOG.
And I do not even see any option in IXGINVNT (Z/OS 1.13) to update LOGSNUM.

REQUEST=UPDATE option of IXGINVNT

 z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Reference IAR-XCT
 SA22-7607-17 
  

The IXGINVNT macro with the UPDATE parameter allows a program to update a log 
stream entry in the LOGR policy for a coupling facility or DASD-only log 
stream. Except for the RETPD and AUTODELETE parameters, note that you cannot 
update a log stream while there are active connections to it.

And this from CICS DOC:

2.You cannot update AVGBUFSIZE, like other structure definition attributes such 
as MAXBUFSIZE and LOGSNUM, unless you first delete the log streams in the 
structure definition.



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Subject: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

I have a coworker that wants to increase the LOGSNUM value of the structure 
defined for numerous CICS  DFHLOG logstreams.

Can this be done dynamically and will we have to make sure that all regions are 
down and delete/define with the larger value.

I have tried RTFM but it was not intuitively obvious.

Bob


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Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
David L. Craig wrote:

Nancy (now Assistant Chief) confirmed the 91 did not use ASP. So I was wrong.  
Where's my ceremonial sword?  Hopefully I won't get that wrong. ;-)

Ok, just lay for me nice and easy flat while I sharpen my sword.

sharpening . sharpening more sharpening


Ops. Too much sharpening, I now have a little pocket knife. 

Ok David, today I will spare your life...

;-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

2015-03-30 Thread Barkow, Eileen
If you have so many CICS logs, why not use DASDONLY for the logs instead of the 
coupling facility?

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Subject: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

I have a coworker that wants to increase the LOGSNUM value of the structure 
defined for numerous CICS  DFHLOG logstreams.

Can this be done dynamically and will we have to make sure that all regions are 
down and delete/define with the larger value.

I have tried RTFM but it was not intuitively obvious.

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Re: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

2015-03-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richards, Robert B. wrote:

Not what the CICS sysprog wanted, I guess.

Ok. For what does he wants for the CICS Logstreams? I mean, for what is the 
purpose of those logstreams?

Why does he wants an increase of LOGSNUM? Or what are you trying to solve?

Groete / Greetings
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Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

2015-03-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I have a coworker that wants to increase the LOGSNUM value of the structure 
defined for numerous CICS  DFHLOG logstreams.

Can this be done dynamically and will we have to make sure that all regions are 
down and delete/define with the larger value.

I have tried RTFM but it was not intuitively obvious.

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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Examine your IEFUSI exit. That'll have the final vote for virtual 
storage sizes for your non-authorized address spaces. BTW, 1MB for 
MEMLIMIT is very small. A reasonable size is more on the order of 4GB.


Mark Jacobs

Neal Eckhardt mailto:neckha...@cnyric.org
March 30, 2015 at 2:34 PM
We converted to z/OS 2.1 this past weekend. Since then, we are seeing 
message ISF121I Module IDFSM64 was unable to obtain _ 
bytes of storage (1 segment). Check MEMLIMIT value.


The only MEMLIMIT value we can find is in SMFPRMxx, and that is 
already set to 1M as suggested in the documentation. It seems the 
MEMLIMIT would have no effect since a TSO user always has a REGION 
specified when they sign on. The funny thing is that the systems 
programmers do not seem to get this message.


Has anybody run into this and what was the solution?

Thanks,
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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Ok then. I still think that 1MB is way too small for MEMLIMIT. Is there 
a reason why you selected that value?


Mark Jacobs


Neal Eckhardt mailto:neckha...@cnyric.org
March 30, 2015 at 3:08 PM
We do not provide an IEFUSI exit. The standard IBM supplied dummy exit 
is all that there is in SYS1.LPALIB.


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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Paraphrasing the JCL Reference manual:

MEMLIMIT parameter specifies the limit on the total size of usable virtual 
storage *above the bar* in a single address space.

REGION is for below the bar, MEMLIMIT is for 64-bit addresses above the bar.

HTH

Peter

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OH, no reason. It's been that way forever. Since we specify region on all the 
jobs, we kind of considered that parameter obsolete if you know what I mean 
since it never affected anything. We will probably change it. Since the TSO 
address spaces always have a region, I wouldn't think that changing MEMLIMIT in 
SMFPRMxx would have no effect.
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Just for completeness, here is the technote.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1012687

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, willie bunter
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 Hallo All,

  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:

 ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
 ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
 ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
 IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
 HSM.HSMPDOXC
 ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
 ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3

 I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :

 A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set

 It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  
 Could this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both 
 PDA dsns.

 Could someone shed some light on this?

 Thanks.

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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Neal Eckhardt
My apologies to Mark and all the others. MEMLIMIT in SMFPRMxx IS for above the 
bar storage. The documentation that somebody put in SMFPRMxx for the parameter 
was incorrect about the usage. I will change that parameter and hope for the 
best, but I think that will solve it. Next time RTFM and don't believe what 
somebody types in a member.

Neal

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Redbook on DFHSM and PDSEs Control datasets

2015-03-30 Thread Ed Gould

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/redp5160.pdf


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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Neal Eckhardt
We do not provide an IEFUSI exit. The standard IBM supplied dummy exit is all 
that there is in SYS1.LPALIB.

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Re: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

2015-03-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.
These particular ones are for test regions. He wants to increase the number 
from 70 to 100.


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Of Elardus Engelbrecht
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Richards, Robert B. wrote:

Not what the CICS sysprog wanted, I guess.

Ok. For what does he wants for the CICS Logstreams? I mean, for what is the 
purpose of those logstreams?

Why does he wants an increase of LOGSNUM? Or what are you trying to solve?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Neal Eckhardt
OH, no reason. It's been that way forever. Since we specify region on all the 
jobs, we kind of considered that parameter obsolete if you know what I mean 
since it never affected anything. We will probably change it. Since the TSO 
address spaces always have a region, I wouldn't think that changing MEMLIMIT in 
SMFPRMxx would have no effect.
Neal

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Re: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

2015-03-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I thought so too, but want to ask if something had changed since the last time 
I increased the number of structures. At least there, you can switch between 
CFRM datasets.

Bob
 
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From what I can see, the entire log stream structure would have to be deleted 
and redefined in order to increase LOGSNUM.

According to this from z/os, it looks like the log streams would have to be 
disconnected in order to update LOGSNUM.
But CICS TS 5.1 will not let you disconnect the main journal DFHLOG.
And I do not even see any option in IXGINVNT (Z/OS 1.13) to update LOGSNUM.

REQUEST=UPDATE option of IXGINVNT

 z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Reference IAR-XCT
 SA22-7607-17 
  

The IXGINVNT macro with the UPDATE parameter allows a program to update a log 
stream entry in the LOGR policy for a coupling facility or DASD-only log 
stream. Except for the RETPD and AUTODELETE parameters, note that you cannot 
update a log stream while there are active connections to it.

And this from CICS DOC:

2.You cannot update AVGBUFSIZE, like other structure definition attributes such 
as MAXBUFSIZE and LOGSNUM, unless you first delete the log streams in the 
structure definition.



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Subject: Structure resizing for CICS LOG lostreams

I have a coworker that wants to increase the LOGSNUM value of the structure 
defined for numerous CICS  DFHLOG logstreams.

Can this be done dynamically and will we have to make sure that all regions are 
down and delete/define with the larger value.

I have tried RTFM but it was not intuitively obvious.

Bob


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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Neal Eckhardt
Thank you Peter, we didn't know about the MEMLIMIT JCL parameter. That points 
us in a direction that might actually solve the problem. Now we just have to 
figure out how to specify it for TSO regions. 

Thanks for the help and giving us a missing piece of the puzzle.

Neal

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SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Neal Eckhardt
We converted to z/OS 2.1 this past weekend. Since then, we are seeing message 
ISF121I Module IDFSM64 was unable to obtain _ bytes of storage 
(1 segment). Check MEMLIMIT value. 

The only MEMLIMIT value we can find is in SMFPRMxx, and that is already set 
to 1M as suggested in the documentation. It seems the MEMLIMIT would have no 
effect since a TSO user always has a REGION specified when they sign on. The 
funny thing is that the systems programmers do not seem to get this message.

Has anybody run into this and what was the solution?

Thanks,
Neal

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Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Bob Shannon
If you have a spare logon proc, specify a larger MEMLIMIT and see it you can 
use SDSF without seeing the error.

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AW: Re: SDSF ISF121I message

2015-03-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler

Paraphrasing the JCL Reference manual:
 
MEMLIMIT parameter specifies the limit on the total size of usable virtual 
storage *above the bar* in a single address space.
 
REGION is for below the bar, MEMLIMIT is for 64-bit addresses above the bar.




And there is the (maybe) unexpected and (IMHO) unlucky relationship that 
REGION=0K or 0M implies MEMLIMIT=NOLIMIT.
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