Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks... My mistake - I found my old notes and they mention a Program 
Object version number, not PDSE version.  So maybe that makes more 
sense.  During an attempt to IEBCOPY from PDSE to PDS most load members 
copied fine, but some newer members failed with:


IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES VERSION 3 PROGRAM OBJECT FEATURES AND 
CANNOT BE SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.


The client wanted to change the ASM code that called IEBCOPY to check 
the source module version before the copy attempt, in order to issue a 
nicer error message.  That's why I went looking for the version number 
in the module itself.  I do remember finding it pretty easily and asked 
IBM if it was the correct byte and they said yes.


On 7/29/2021 9:18 PM, Steve Smith wrote:

There are PDSE V1 and V2.  Never was sure why IBM decided to do that.
There's no significant external difference other than only V2 supports
member generations.

IEBCOPY's unload file format is documented fairly well in an appendix of
the Dataset Utilities manual.  I think you were looking at flags, not a
number as such.

sas


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 7:00 PM Tom Brennan 
wrote:


Do PDSE's have format version numbers?  I remember (2015) looking at a
problem where IEBCOPY would not copy what I think IBM called a V3 PDSE
member, and that failure could be predicted by looking at a byte pretty
close to the front of the member data (or maybe it was the dir entry)
that was x'02' (copied ok) or x'03' (wouldn't copy to a standard PDS).
That was right around the time COBOL started requiring PDSE's and I
assumed it was like you say, for long name support.




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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Steve Smith
There are PDSE V1 and V2.  Never was sure why IBM decided to do that.
There's no significant external difference other than only V2 supports
member generations.

IEBCOPY's unload file format is documented fairly well in an appendix of
the Dataset Utilities manual.  I think you were looking at flags, not a
number as such.

sas


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 7:00 PM Tom Brennan 
wrote:

> Do PDSE's have format version numbers?  I remember (2015) looking at a
> problem where IEBCOPY would not copy what I think IBM called a V3 PDSE
> member, and that failure could be predicted by looking at a byte pretty
> close to the front of the member data (or maybe it was the dir entry)
> that was x'02' (copied ok) or x'03' (wouldn't copy to a standard PDS).
> That was right around the time COBOL started requiring PDSE's and I
> assumed it was like you say, for long name support.
>
>

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Steve Smith
No, I got that wrong.  I should have read the manual instead of relying on
memory, or maybe assumptions.  I do cross-load/unloads from time-to-time,
but they must all be non-executables.

Still, it seems like an odd hole in IEBCOPY's functionality.

sas

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 8:37 PM Billy Ashton  wrote:

> Steve, this is from the IEBCOPY doc:
> A load module from an unload data set cannot be reloaded into a PDSE as
> a program object. The load modules should be reloaded into a partitioned
> data set and then the partitioned data set should be copied to a PDSE to
> convert the unloaded load module into a program object.
>
> This means if a loadlib PDS is unloaded by IEBCOPY, it cannot be loaded
> directly back into a PDSE as executable modules. I haven't found the doc
> on it, but it is my understanding that a PDS cannot contain program
> objects, so if a PDSE is unloaded by IEBCOPY, it cannot be loaded
> directly back into a PDS.
>
> Or am I misreading something here? Don't forget that I am working only
> with the unloaded file sent to me via FTP, and I do not have the
> original PDS or PDSE available to me to do things like a 3.3 copy.
> B
>
> Steve Smith wrote on 7/29/2021 18:31:
> > Where did you get that notion?  IEBCOPY can indeed load into a dataset
> of a
> > different type than the source.  Only exception I know of is from a PDSE
> > with long aliases.
> >
> > I'd think your "backup plan" (albeit my first plan), would be to unload
> the
> > file into a PDSE and not worry about it until something goes wrong.
> >
> > sas
> >
>

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
If you don't pre-allocate then RECEIVE will allocate the target with the proper 
type.


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On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:47:45 -0400, John Abell wrote:

>Why not have them use TSO XMIT files like we do?
>
Will RECEIVE then allocate (NEW,CATLG) a data set with suitable DSNTYPE,
SPACE, RECFM, LRECL, ...

If the original PDS is large, is there a problem of overflow of a temporary 
data set?

But does the OP control the unload process, or is he given an unloaded PDS(E)
and tasked with reloading it?

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Billy Ashton

Steve, this is from the IEBCOPY doc:
A load module from an unload data set cannot be reloaded into a PDSE as 
a program object. The load modules should be reloaded into a partitioned 
data set and then the partitioned data set should be copied to a PDSE to 
convert the unloaded load module into a program object.


This means if a loadlib PDS is unloaded by IEBCOPY, it cannot be loaded 
directly back into a PDSE as executable modules. I haven't found the doc 
on it, but it is my understanding that a PDS cannot contain program 
objects, so if a PDSE is unloaded by IEBCOPY, it cannot be loaded 
directly back into a PDS.


Or am I misreading something here? Don't forget that I am working only 
with the unloaded file sent to me via FTP, and I do not have the 
original PDS or PDSE available to me to do things like a 3.3 copy.

B

Steve Smith wrote on 7/29/2021 18:31:

Where did you get that notion?  IEBCOPY can indeed load into a dataset of a
different type than the source.  Only exception I know of is from a PDSE
with long aliases.

I'd think your "backup plan" (albeit my first plan), would be to unload the
file into a PDSE and not worry about it until something goes wrong.

sas

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:07 PM Billy Ashton  wrote:


These are solution files that the vendor sends to us, so we have no
control of what to do. They tell us that the target is a PDS or PDSE,
but I was just looking for a backup method to try and ensure that what
they say matches the file. As I'm sure you know, if they unloaded a PDS
file with load modules, you can't take the unloaded file and then try to
load it into a PDSE. Likewise, if a PDSE with program objects was
unloaded, you can't load it into a standard PDS.
Billy



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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Tom Brennan
Do PDSE's have format version numbers?  I remember (2015) looking at a 
problem where IEBCOPY would not copy what I think IBM called a V3 PDSE 
member, and that failure could be predicted by looking at a byte pretty 
close to the front of the member data (or maybe it was the dir entry) 
that was x'02' (copied ok) or x'03' (wouldn't copy to a standard PDS). 
That was right around the time COBOL started requiring PDSE's and I 
assumed it was like you say, for long name support.


On 7/29/2021 3:31 PM, Steve Smith wrote:

Where did you get that notion?  IEBCOPY can indeed load into a dataset of a
different type than the source.  Only exception I know of is from a PDSE
with long aliases.

I'd think your "backup plan" (albeit my first plan), would be to unload the
file into a PDSE and not worry about it until something goes wrong.

sas

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:07 PM Billy Ashton  wrote:


These are solution files that the vendor sends to us, so we have no
control of what to do. They tell us that the target is a PDS or PDSE,
but I was just looking for a backup method to try and ensure that what
they say matches the file. As I'm sure you know, if they unloaded a PDS
file with load modules, you can't take the unloaded file and then try to
load it into a PDSE. Likewise, if a PDSE with program objects was
unloaded, you can't load it into a standard PDS.
Billy




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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Steve Smith
Where did you get that notion?  IEBCOPY can indeed load into a dataset of a
different type than the source.  Only exception I know of is from a PDSE
with long aliases.

I'd think your "backup plan" (albeit my first plan), would be to unload the
file into a PDSE and not worry about it until something goes wrong.

sas

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:07 PM Billy Ashton  wrote:

> These are solution files that the vendor sends to us, so we have no
> control of what to do. They tell us that the target is a PDS or PDSE,
> but I was just looking for a backup method to try and ensure that what
> they say matches the file. As I'm sure you know, if they unloaded a PDS
> file with load modules, you can't take the unloaded file and then try to
> load it into a PDSE. Likewise, if a PDSE with program objects was
> unloaded, you can't load it into a standard PDS.
> Billy
>
>

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Re: Using Windows HIS to replace a mainframe Enterprise Extender node

2021-07-29 Thread James Crudele
Good try

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 15:33, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:
> 
> I think Virsa as a possible solution...It's been a long time but IIRC they 
> had a viable solution.
> 
> 
> Carmen
> 
>> On 7/28/2021 2:25 PM, Tom Sims wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> One of our clients is in the process of retiring their mainframe. They are 
>> looking at Windows Host Integration Server as a possible replacement for 
>> their Enterprise Extender node, which has been put forward as a possibility 
>> by a remote mainframe partner.
>> 
>> Not a replacement for hosting the workload at either end, just for the local 
>> end-point of EE.
>> 
>> Anyone out their with user experiences in doing this?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Tom Sims
>> zOS Retiree-in-training
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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Billy Ashton
These are solution files that the vendor sends to us, so we have no 
control of what to do. They tell us that the target is a PDS or PDSE, 
but I was just looking for a backup method to try and ensure that what 
they say matches the file. As I'm sure you know, if they unloaded a PDS 
file with load modules, you can't take the unloaded file and then try to 
load it into a PDSE. Likewise, if a PDSE with program objects was 
unloaded, you can't load it into a standard PDS.

Billy


John Abell wrote on 7/29/2021 15:47:

Why not have them use TSO XMIT files like we do?

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Subject: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

Hey everyone, here is an odd question for y'all.
Is there any way I can tell from an IEBCOPY unload file (that I received from a 
vendor) whether it is an unload of a PDS or an unload of a PDS/E?
Since IEBCOPY is pretty particular about only loading full libraries back to 
the same source type, I was hoping I could look at byte 42 or something like 
that to know that I need to load this to a PDS/E.

Anybody have any hope for me here? (I know I can ask the vendor, but I wanted 
to confirm programmatically if possible).
Billy

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Tom Brennan
And maybe combinations!  I seem to remember doing this one time, working 
with what was available:


DFDSS full volume dump
XMIT
IND$FILE
Thumb drive transfer
IND$FILE
RECEIVE
DFDSS restore

On 7/29/2021 2:13 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:

I guess it will depend on what you are trying to accomplish

There could be many solutions besides IEBCOPY

You can use DFDSS DUMP/RESTORE function to take it as is and restore it as is

You can use TSO XMIT (but your shop may limit how many records you can off load

If it does use TSO XMIT Dataset(name here) OUTDSN(transmission dataset)  Then 
use your favorite transfer Program (FTP, Fillezilla, etc) to move to new home 
then receive

You might be able to use TRSMAIN Pack/Unpack - I think it handles PDS Datasets 
now

There could be other vendor products that can do this as well


What problem are you trying to solve by knowing PDS vs PDSe datasets?

I rarely care any more what they are.


Lizette



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Subject: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

Hey everyone, here is an odd question for y'all.
Is there any way I can tell from an IEBCOPY unload file (that I received from a 
vendor) whether it is an unload of a PDS or an unload of a PDS/E?
Since IEBCOPY is pretty particular about only loading full libraries back to 
the same source type, I was hoping I could look at byte 42 or something like 
that to know that I need to load this to a PDS/E.

Anybody have any hope for me here? (I know I can ask the vendor, but I wanted 
to confirm programmatically if possible).
Billy

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
I guess it will depend on what you are trying to accomplish

There could be many solutions besides IEBCOPY 

You can use DFDSS DUMP/RESTORE function to take it as is and restore it as is

You can use TSO XMIT (but your shop may limit how many records you can off load

If it does use TSO XMIT Dataset(name here) OUTDSN(transmission dataset)  Then 
use your favorite transfer Program (FTP, Fillezilla, etc) to move to new home 
then receive

You might be able to use TRSMAIN Pack/Unpack - I think it handles PDS Datasets 
now

There could be other vendor products that can do this as well


What problem are you trying to solve by knowing PDS vs PDSe datasets?

I rarely care any more what they are. 


Lizette



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Subject: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

Hey everyone, here is an odd question for y'all.
Is there any way I can tell from an IEBCOPY unload file (that I received from a 
vendor) whether it is an unload of a PDS or an unload of a PDS/E? 
Since IEBCOPY is pretty particular about only loading full libraries back to 
the same source type, I was hoping I could look at byte 42 or something like 
that to know that I need to load this to a PDS/E.

Anybody have any hope for me here? (I know I can ask the vendor, but I wanted 
to confirm programmatically if possible).
Billy

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:47:45 -0400, John Abell wrote:

>Why not have them use TSO XMIT files like we do?
>
Will RECEIVE then allocate (NEW,CATLG) a data set with suitable DSNTYPE,
SPACE, RECFM, LRECL, ...

If the original PDS is large, is there a problem of overflow of a temporary 
data set?

But does the OP control the unload process, or is he given an unloaded PDS(E)
and tasked with reloading it?

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Frank Swarbrick
In the past (when we were allowed to install our own software on our work 
machines!) I used "MoveIt Freely" 
(https://www.ipswitch.com/resources/free-tools/moveit-freely) as a nice command 
line FTPS interface.

Windows 10 comes pre-install with curl, and I'm fond of it as well.  It doesn't 
have an interactive interface, but it's useful for scripting file transmissions.

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread John Abell
Why not have them use TSO XMIT files like we do?

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Hey everyone, here is an odd question for y'all.
Is there any way I can tell from an IEBCOPY unload file (that I received from a 
vendor) whether it is an unload of a PDS or an unload of a PDS/E? 
Since IEBCOPY is pretty particular about only loading full libraries back to 
the same source type, I was hoping I could look at byte 42 or something like 
that to know that I need to load this to a PDS/E.

Anybody have any hope for me here? (I know I can ask the vendor, but I wanted 
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Bill Godfrey
I ran a test using "ftp 127.0.0.1" in TSO using the z/OS FTP linemode client.

It wasn't FTPS but it demonstrated how to switch back and forth between OMVS 
files and z/OS datasets,
which should be the same whether in FTP or FTPS.

The cd commands were entered in the order shown, which matters for the two "cd 
foo" commands.

datasets:

cd 'myid'
250 "MYID." is the working directory name prefix.
cd 'MYID'
250 "MYID." is the working directory name prefix.
cd foo
250 "MYID.FOO." is the working directory name prefix.

OMVS files:

cd /u/MYID
250 HFS directory /u/MYID is the working directory name prefix.
cd foo
250 HFS directory /u/MYID/foo is the working directory name prefix.

back to datasets:

cd 'myid.foo'
250 "MYID.FOO." is the working directory name prefix.

back to OMVS files:

cd /u/MYID/foo
250 HFS directory /u/MYID/foo is the working directory name prefix.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Steve Smith
+1 This is exactly what I do.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 11:57 AM Farley, Peter x23353 <
031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> When I use FIlezilla to access (get or put) OMVS files I set up a separate
> "site" in the "Site Manager" area and tell Filezilla it is a Unix system.
> I use the same IP address as I use for my regular MVS dataset connection.
> I also set the default remote directory in the Unix site definition
> ("Advanced" tab) to /u/tsouser, where "tsouser" is the lower-case version
> of my regular TSO user id.  "/u/tsouser" is where my shop locates our OMVS
> "$HOME" directory.  YMMV.
>
> Then it all Just Works (TM).
>
> HTH
>
> Peter
>
>

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> Is there any way I can tell from an IEBCOPY unload file (that I received

Billy,

You can print the header record of the unloaded IEBCOPY and check for Bit 7
whether the input dataset is a PDSE or NOT.

Here is the lay out the header record from IEBCOPY

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=descriptions-header-records

//CHKHDR   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//INP  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your unloaded.Iebcopy.dsn
//SYSINDD *
  PRINT INFILE(INP) COUNT(1)
/*

Thanks,
Kolusu

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Re: Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Seguin, Manuel (ITS)
I don't think you would have any issues unloading it as PDSE. I've used IEBCOPY 
to convert from PDS to PDSE. Use COPYMOD if it's a load.

//COPYN0 EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,COND=(0,NE)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1 DD DSN=,DISP=SHR
//SYSUT2 DD DSN=,
//  DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//  DSNTYPE=LIBRARY,
//  UNIT=SYSDA,
//  DCB=(RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760),
//  SPACE=(CYL,(233,50,500))
//SYSIN DD *
  COPYMOD OUTDD=SYSUT2,INDD=SYSUT1
  EXCLUDE MEMBER=$$$SPACE
/*

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Hey everyone, here is an odd question for y'all.
Is there any way I can tell from an IEBCOPY unload file (that I received from a 
vendor) whether it is an unload of a PDS or an unload of a PDS/E?
Since IEBCOPY is pretty particular about only loading full libraries back to 
the same source type, I was hoping I could look at byte 42 or something like 
that to know that I need to load this to a PDS/E.

Anybody have any hope for me here? (I know I can ask the vendor, but I wanted 
to confirm programmatically if possible).
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Re: JCL SPIN not working

2021-07-29 Thread Joe Monk
Try $Tstc12345,SPIN,DDNAME=TLVLOG

Joe

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:49 PM Roberto Halais 
wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I have a stc which has the following jcl in it:
>
> //KLS1 JOB JESLOG=(SPIN,100K),MSGLEVEL=1
> ..
> //TLVLOG   DD   SYSOUT=,SPIN=(UNALLOC,100K)
>
> The SPIN would normally function but currently is not working for this stc.
> The files are not being freed.
> I have in another lpar the same stc with the same jcl and it's working
> fine.
>
> I have tried the $Tstc12345,SPIN command to no avail.
> I know if I stop/start the stc it might begin to work.
>
> Any ideas to fix this without recycling the stc are welcomed.
> Thank you.
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JCL SPIN not working

2021-07-29 Thread Roberto Halais
Hello!

I have a stc which has the following jcl in it:

//KLS1 JOB JESLOG=(SPIN,100K),MSGLEVEL=1
..
//TLVLOG   DD   SYSOUT=,SPIN=(UNALLOC,100K)

The SPIN would normally function but currently is not working for this stc.
The files are not being freed.
I have in another lpar the same stc with the same jcl and it's working fine.

I have tried the $Tstc12345,SPIN command to no avail.
I know if I stop/start the stc it might begin to work.

Any ideas to fix this without recycling the stc are welcomed.
Thank you.
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Identifying PDS/E or PDS in IEBCOPY Unload

2021-07-29 Thread Billy Ashton

Hey everyone, here is an odd question for y'all.
Is there any way I can tell from an IEBCOPY unload file (that I received 
from a vendor) whether it is an unload of a PDS or an unload of a PDS/E? 
Since IEBCOPY is pretty particular about only loading full libraries 
back to the same source type, I was hoping I could look at byte 42 or 
something like that to know that I need to load this to a PDS/E.


Anybody have any hope for me here? (I know I can ask the vendor, but I 
wanted to confirm programmatically if possible).

Billy

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Ken Bloom
We use winscp for all ftp and sftp access

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Regarding simplicity - I would like to have CLI mode (command line)
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Most systems come with sftp clients.  For z/OS (or z\OS, as some say) you might 
have to go to Rocket; for z/OS server,  Co:Z.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

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>Regarding simplicity - I would like to have CLI mode (command line)
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Most systems come with sftp clients.  For z/OS (or z\OS, as some say) you might 
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:42:40 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>>>
>> Most systems come with sftp clients.  For z/OS (or z\OS, as some say) you
>> might have to go to Rocket; for z/OS server,  Co:Z.
>
>I meant Windows. Linux on PC is not a problem. Mac - not my problem (I
>don't have any).
>
Cygwin?

>Regarding z/OS - yes, there is built-in FTP server with FTPS and there
>are/were sftp options.
> 
FTPS clients are rare.  Those savvy to the multiple-personality z/OS FTPS
server even rarer.

I wonder whether the OP is free to attack the problem from the other end:
install the Co:Z SFTP server on the z and use any commonly available
SFTP client?

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

W dniu 29.07.2021 o 19:13, Paul Gilmartin pisze:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:00:47 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

Regarding simplicity - I would like to have CLI mode (command line)
clients for ftps and sftp.


Most systems come with sftp clients.  For z/OS (or z\OS, as some say) you
might have to go to Rocket; for z/OS server,  Co:Z.


I meant Windows. Linux on PC is not a problem. Mac - not my problem (I 
don't have any).
Regarding z/OS - yes, there is built-in FTP server with FTPS and there 
are/were sftp options.



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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:00:47 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>
>Regarding simplicity - I would like to have CLI mode (command line)
>clients for ftps and sftp.
> 
Most systems come with sftp clients.  For z/OS (or z\OS, as some say) you
might have to go to Rocket; for z/OS server,  Co:Z.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

W dniu 29.07.2021 o 18:28, Paul Gilmartin pisze:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:30:43 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:


When you tell Filezilla it's a z/OS Server, you can get at the traditional side 
files. When you tell Filezilla it’s a Unix Server, you can get at the USS side


Would a linemode client work better?  It would understanding
the (never standardized) format of LISt/NLST replies to the
human being.

Simpler is better.


Regarding simplicity - I would like to have CLI mode (command line) 
clients for ftps and sftp.



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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:30:43 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:

>When you tell Filezilla it's a z/OS Server, you can get at the traditional 
>side files. When you tell Filezilla it’s a Unix Server, you can get at the USS 
>side
>
Would a linemode client work better?  It would understanding
the (never standardized) format of LISt/NLST replies to the
human being.

Simpler is better.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
When I use FIlezilla to access (get or put) OMVS files I set up a separate 
"site" in the "Site Manager" area and tell Filezilla it is a Unix system.  I 
use the same IP address as I use for my regular MVS dataset connection.  I also 
set the default remote directory in the Unix site definition ("Advanced" tab) 
to /u/tsouser, where "tsouser" is the lower-case version of my regular TSO user 
id.  "/u/tsouser" is where my shop locates our OMVS "$HOME" directory.  YMMV.

Then it all Just Works (TM).

HTH

Peter

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Thanks for all the replies. It's obvious that it can  be done. I will continue 
working with the different softwares until get it ti work.

Thanks again.

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Some can toggle between MVS datasets and USS files once connected.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Ward, Mike S
Thanks for all the replies. It's obvious that it can  be done. I will continue 
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Thanks again.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread David Frenzel
I use WinSCP for accessing OMVS / UNIX files via SFTP and FileZilla to access 
z/OS datasets through FTPS. It has worked for me quite well even though I'm 
technically using two different tools.

Cheers - David 

Am 29.07.21, 16:47 schrieb "IBM Mainframe Discussion List im Auftrag von Joe 
Monk" :

Does the same FTP server have access to both Z/os and OMVS datasets?

Maybe there is a different FTP address to get to OMVS files, which would
communicate with the ZFS filesystem?

Joe

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Ward, Mike S  wrote:

> I did, I can access the z\OS datasets, but I can't figure out how to do
> the OMVS files. Could you share that info please.
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
That is what I use and what I do. Not positive that that is absolutely 
necessary. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
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Date: 7/29/21  11:00 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 
Windows FTPS client With my FTP software (Ipswitch WS_FTP) I have to have a 
different session for zOS and OMVS files. For OMVS files, I have to specify the 
host type of Unix (standard)Regards – Grant.In theory, there's no difference 
between theory and practice. In practice, there is.Worry more about your 
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
Try cd /CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
 Original message From: "Ward, Mike S"  Date: 
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Windows FTPS client I can see the z/OS datasets, but I can't seem to access the 
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Ward Able, Grant
With my FTP software (Ipswitch WS_FTP) I have to have a different session for 
zOS and OMVS files. For OMVS files, I have to specify the host type of Unix 
(standard)

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Yes, port 21. I tested hummingbird FTP and when it connects to port 21 for  
FTPS it can access both the OMVS system and z\OS datasets. It's a pricey 
product.



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Does the same FTP server have access to both Z/os and OMVS datasets?

Maybe there is a different FTP address to get to OMVS files, which would 
communicate with the ZFS filesystem?

Joe

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Ward, Mike S  wrote:

> I did, I can access the z\OS datasets, but I can't figure out how to 
> do the OMVS files. Could you share that info please.
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Ward, Mike S
Yes, port 21. I tested hummingbird FTP and when it connects to port 21 for  
FTPS it can access both the OMVS system and z\OS datasets. It's a pricey 
product.



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Does the same FTP server have access to both Z/os and OMVS datasets?

Maybe there is a different FTP address to get to OMVS files, which would 
communicate with the ZFS filesystem?

Joe

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Ward, Mike S  wrote:

> I did, I can access the z\OS datasets, but I can't figure out how to 
> do the OMVS files. Could you share that info please.
>
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> > FTPS
> (Not SFTP) client recommendations. I'm looking for a client that can 
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Joe Monk
Does the same FTP server have access to both Z/os and OMVS datasets?

Maybe there is a different FTP address to get to OMVS files, which would
communicate with the ZFS filesystem?

Joe

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Ward, Mike S  wrote:

> I did, I can access the z\OS datasets, but I can't figure out how to do
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Re: Windows FTPS client

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I did, I can access the z\OS datasets, but I can't figure out how to do the 
OMVS files. Could you share that info please.

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> Hello all, and good day. I was wondering if there are any Windows FTPS (Not 
> SFTP) client recommendations. I'm looking for a client that can handles z/OS 
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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread TSDunlap

On 7/29/2021 9:54 AM, Ward, Mike S wrote:

Hello all, and good day. I was wondering if there are any Windows FTPS (Not 
SFTP) client recommendations. I'm looking for a client that can handles z/OS 
datasets as well as OMVS files. Preferably free, but will look at paid for 
clients also.

Thanks.


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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Ward, Mike S
I can see the z/OS datasets, but I can't seem to access the OMVS files. Any 
help?

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Yep.
I used Filezilla client and server to test all mainframe FTPS jobs.
Easy to use.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Roberto Halais
Yep.
I used Filezilla client and server to test all mainframe FTPS jobs.
Easy to use.

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Re: Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread John Abell
Have a look at Filezilla.

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Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 9:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Windows FTPS client

Hello all, and good day. I was wondering if there are any Windows FTPS (Not
SFTP) client recommendations. I'm looking for a client that can handles z/OS
datasets as well as OMVS files. Preferably free, but will look at paid for
clients also.

Thanks.


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Windows FTPS client

2021-07-29 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, and good day. I was wondering if there are any Windows FTPS (Not 
SFTP) client recommendations. I'm looking for a client that can handles z/OS 
datasets as well as OMVS files. Preferably free, but will look at paid for 
clients also.

Thanks.


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