Re: Can I use a NAS attached to z/OS

2022-01-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Tom Brennan wrote:
>And maybe this is related:  Last year a client wanted to test
>Transparent Cloud Tiering which I was told is a method for DS8000/TS7000
>to dump data to an S3 server directly from the storage boxes.

Yes, it is related. If you happen to have IBM DS8000 and/or IBM TS7000 
storage devices with Transparent Cloud Tiering then that'd be another way 
to get HSM-managed storage over to something like a Synology NAS device as 
long as the Synology can somehow understand a cloud object storage 
protocol -- via MinIO running on the Synology device, for example. It's 
the same basic pattern just with a "driver" that's different than IBM 
Advanced Archive for DFSMShsm.

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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread kekronbekron
As always, thank you Sri!
Don't know what it is with IBM... one step forward, (at least) one step back.
We all liked the new function APAR page, but they had to break TechDocs for 
some reason.
Can't even get a simple table of available pages/PDFs in descending order of 
creation.

- KB

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Thursday, January 13th, 2022 at 10:48 PM, Sri h Kolusu  
wrote:

> > Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is
> >
> > worth licensing and getting? 😊
>
> Try this White paper
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/zEDC_White_Paper.pdf
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kolusu
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Apache webserver that was required as of z/OS 2.4

2022-01-13 Thread Gibney, Dave
   I converted to this version because I had to. Our need for this function is 
very limited, and we are still getting smaller. As mentioned before, I am 
actively reducing our use of z/OS and the resources associated with it.
   This new webserver consumes CPU when there is no actual activity. And it 
insists on running the main STC and 5 additional "subSTCs".
  I've looked around and I can't find where I can lower the number of 
additional address spaces. I really don't need them, and I could use the MSUs 
elsewhere

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Scott Barry
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:15:32 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
 wrote:

>Sequential datasets that they are updated in place cannot be compressed.  That 
>would apply to zEDC or SMS compression.  
>
>

Of course notbut the D/R "ready" backup copy (hopefully multiple versions - 
not the "replicated flavor", once "gold-copy" corrupted, then soon-after all 
flavors corrupted) can likely be compressed !!

Scott Barry
SBBTech LLC



>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>Scott Barry
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 4:10 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: zEDC Justification documents or links
>
>[External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.]
>
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 19:02:16 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the additional information. I'll file it away if we get a z15. On 
>>a z14_ZR1 at the moment.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
>>Behalf Of Scott Barry
>>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 1:56 PM
>>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: zEDC Justification documents or links
>>
>>On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:57:40 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
>>>licensing and getting? 😊
>>>
>>>For the record, we already have the HW feature installed. Don’t ask.
>>>
>>
>>Consider with the IBM z15, there is no longer any "license requirement" for 
>>activation - no longer implemented with (z14, z13) hardware PCIe cards 
>>(recommended: at least 4 per CPC/CEC) involved, as the function is on-chip.  
>>And the performance measurement moves from RMF 74 subtype 9 to subtype 10; 
>>also, some of the SMF 30 metrics are zeroed-out as no longer relevant.
>>
>>Scott Barry
>>SBBTech LLC
>>
>
>Additional technical information about zEDC has been reported over-time in the 
>Watson & Walker Tuning Newsletters, such as 2016-4.  Also, explore past SHARE 
>presentations (e.g., circa Anaheim 2014).
>
>Savings opportunities abound (e.g., SMF compression 8-to-1 within LOGSTREAM 
>and offloaded to DASD), with mgmt areas like SMF (LOGSTREAMs), z/OS sequential 
>(DASD-output - look to convert z/OS COMPACTION leverage zEDC, using new SMS 
>DATACLAS like DCZEDCPR) datasets, DFHSM (data migration/backup-copy), DFDSS 
>(ADRDSSU - consider ZAP to use ZCOMPRESS activated by-default); also, ISVs 
>with FDR (config setting ZEDC=YES), PKZIP (also config setting for global 
>use), IBM/Sterling Connect:Direct, XCOM;  also with MQ logging, and beyond 
>z/OS with JAVA (Z-deployment) and zlib.  Also, look to zBNA tool for dataset 
>candidate identification - not limited to DASD, but also consider tape-to-DASD 
>migration with zEDC as justification-point.
>
>You will need/want to gather z/OS performance metrics / reporting setup in 
>order to keep tabs on zEDC card-performance with utilization, queueing, and 
>also to consider opportunity to stagger some "time-period demand", such as SMF 
>LOGSTREAM offloading processes, so as not over-tax PCIe card utilization.
>
>
>Scott Barry
>SBBTech LLC
>

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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Sequential datasets that they are updated in place cannot be compressed.  That 
would apply to zEDC or SMS compression.  


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Scott Barry
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 4:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

[External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 19:02:16 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
 wrote:

>Thanks for the additional information. I'll file it away if we get a z15. On a 
>z14_ZR1 at the moment.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
>Behalf Of Scott Barry
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 1:56 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: zEDC Justification documents or links
>
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:57:40 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
> wrote:
>
>>Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
>>licensing and getting? 😊
>>
>>For the record, we already have the HW feature installed. Don’t ask.
>>
>
>Consider with the IBM z15, there is no longer any "license requirement" for 
>activation - no longer implemented with (z14, z13) hardware PCIe cards 
>(recommended: at least 4 per CPC/CEC) involved, as the function is on-chip.  
>And the performance measurement moves from RMF 74 subtype 9 to subtype 10; 
>also, some of the SMF 30 metrics are zeroed-out as no longer relevant.
>
>Scott Barry
>SBBTech LLC
>

Additional technical information about zEDC has been reported over-time in the 
Watson & Walker Tuning Newsletters, such as 2016-4.  Also, explore past SHARE 
presentations (e.g., circa Anaheim 2014).

Savings opportunities abound (e.g., SMF compression 8-to-1 within LOGSTREAM and 
offloaded to DASD), with mgmt areas like SMF (LOGSTREAMs), z/OS sequential 
(DASD-output - look to convert z/OS COMPACTION leverage zEDC, using new SMS 
DATACLAS like DCZEDCPR) datasets, DFHSM (data migration/backup-copy), DFDSS 
(ADRDSSU - consider ZAP to use ZCOMPRESS activated by-default); also, ISVs with 
FDR (config setting ZEDC=YES), PKZIP (also config setting for global use), 
IBM/Sterling Connect:Direct, XCOM;  also with MQ logging, and beyond z/OS with 
JAVA (Z-deployment) and zlib.  Also, look to zBNA tool for dataset candidate 
identification - not limited to DASD, but also consider tape-to-DASD migration 
with zEDC as justification-point.

You will need/want to gather z/OS performance metrics / reporting setup in 
order to keep tabs on zEDC card-performance with utilization, queueing, and 
also to consider opportunity to stagger some "time-period demand", such as SMF 
LOGSTREAM offloading processes, so as not over-tax PCIe card utilization.


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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Scott Barry
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 19:02:16 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
 wrote:

>Thanks for the additional information. I'll file it away if we get a z15. On a 
>z14_ZR1 at the moment.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
>Scott Barry
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 1:56 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: zEDC Justification documents or links
>
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:57:40 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
> wrote:
>
>>Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
>>licensing and getting? 😊
>>
>>For the record, we already have the HW feature installed. Don’t ask.  
>>
>
>Consider with the IBM z15, there is no longer any "license requirement" for 
>activation - no longer implemented with (z14, z13) hardware PCIe cards 
>(recommended: at least 4 per CPC/CEC) involved, as the function is on-chip.  
>And the performance measurement moves from RMF 74 subtype 9 to subtype 10; 
>also, some of the SMF 30 metrics are zeroed-out as no longer relevant.
>
>Scott Barry
>SBBTech LLC
>

Additional technical information about zEDC has been reported over-time in the 
Watson & Walker Tuning Newsletters, such as 2016-4.  Also, explore past SHARE 
presentations (e.g., circa Anaheim 2014).

Savings opportunities abound (e.g., SMF compression 8-to-1 within LOGSTREAM and 
offloaded to DASD), with mgmt areas like SMF (LOGSTREAMs), z/OS sequential 
(DASD-output - look to convert z/OS COMPACTION leverage zEDC, using new SMS 
DATACLAS like DCZEDCPR) datasets, DFHSM (data migration/backup-copy), DFDSS 
(ADRDSSU - consider ZAP to use ZCOMPRESS activated by-default); also, ISVs with 
FDR (config setting ZEDC=YES), PKZIP (also config setting for global use), 
IBM/Sterling Connect:Direct, XCOM;  also with MQ logging, and beyond z/OS with 
JAVA (Z-deployment) and zlib.  Also, look to zBNA tool for dataset candidate 
identification - not limited to DASD, but also consider tape-to-DASD migration 
with zEDC as justification-point.

You will need/want to gather z/OS performance metrics / reporting setup in 
order to keep tabs on zEDC card-performance with utilization, queueing, and 
also to consider opportunity to stagger some "time-period demand", such as SMF 
LOGSTREAM offloading processes, so as not over-tax PCIe card utilization.


Scott Barry
SBBTech LLC

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Re: More z/OS 2.5 install fun

2022-01-13 Thread Rich Smrcina
Thanks, Kurt. I’ll give that a try.

Rich Smrcina


> On Jan 13, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Kurt J. Quackenbush  wrote:
> 
>> I’m trying to install z/OS 2.5 with zOSMF. It get’s to the point of 
>> restoring files, but at some point I get this message:
>> 
>> JOB00189  IEF244I IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP - UNABLE TO ALLOCATE 1 UNIT(S) 
>>AT LEAST 1 OFFLINE UNIT(S) NEEDED. 
>> JOB00189  IEF877E IZUD04UZ NEEDS 1 UNIT(S) 
>> FOR GIMUNZIP SYSUT1 
>> FOR VOLUME SCRTCH-   1 
>> OFFLINE, NOT ACCESSIBLE 
>> 0120-013F 0160-017F 0226-022F 023A-027F 02A0-02FF 0320-037F 03A0-03FF 
>> 0700-071F 0980-099F 0C00-0C1F 0D40-0D5F 1200-19FF 2000-21FF 3000-31FF 
>> 4000-41FF 5000-51FF 6000-61FF 7000-71FF 8000-81FF 9000-91FF A000-A1FF 
>> B000-B1FF C000-C1FF D000-D1FF E000-E1FF F000-F1FF 
>> : 
>> JOB00189  IEF878I END OF IEF877E FOR IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP SYSUT1 
>> JOB00189 *52 IEF238D IZUD04UZ - REPLY DEVICE NAME OR 'CANCEL'. 
>> 
>> This is the point in the install where it is trying to restore this 
> file:
>> 
>> CB.SYS1.AFOMHFS
>> 
>> According to the dialog, the file is just under 35,000 tracks. The 
>> volume on which it is supposed to be allocated has well over 133,000
>> tracks available.
>> 
>> SYSUT1... Is this related to the /tmp space used to unpack the file?
> 
> Not /tmp, but temporary data sets, yes.  By default GIMUNZIP allocates 
> temporary data sets to SYSALLDA, and I'm guessing your SYSALLDA pool 
> doesn't have enough free space for this particular data set.  Edit the JCL 
> and add this after the  tag:
> 
>  
> 
> Specify a volser GIMUNZIP should use for temporary data sets.  For more 
> information see here:
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=routine-gimunzip-package-control-tags
>  
> 
> 
> Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  | 
> ku...@us.ibm.com  
> Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Jousma
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:55:33 -0600, Scott Barry  wrote:


>
>Consider with the IBM z15, there is no longer any "license requirement" for 
>activation - no longer implemented with (z14, z13) hardware PCIe cards 
>(recommended: at least 4 per CPC/CEC) involved, as the function is on-chip.  
>And the performance measurement moves from RMF 74 subtype 9 to subtype 10; 
>also, some of the SMF 30 metrics are zeroed-out as no longer relevant.
>
>Scott Barry
>SBBTech LLC

I dont believe that is true Scott.  Its true that the hardware comes on z15 at 
no additional charge, and you'll get some compression features for free, like 
for Connect:Direct.   But asking for ZEDC compression from a DSS job, etc still 
requires the software entitlement.   From the white paper that Sri posted

1.3 - IBM Z hardware and OS requirements
zEDC requires the following:
 z/OS V2R1 (or later) operating system.
 IBM zEnterprise EC12 CPC (with GA2 level microcode) or zBC12 CPC, or later.
 On z14, zEDC Express feature is sharable across up to 31 partitions and up to 
16 cards per CPC.
 zEDC Express software feature enabled in an IFAPRDxx parmlib member.
 Adequate 64-bit real storage configured to this z/OS image

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Re: Fwd: Where do we go from here? 2022 Predictions By Open Mainframe Project

2022-01-13 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Saw another analysis of IBM, their obsession with paying dividends is
affecting their investment in their business. Now with a market cap almost
1/3 of Exxon Mobil,  perhaps when they had the cash, they should have
bought Apple or MSFT.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 06:30 Gord Tomlin 
wrote:

> On 2022-01-13 13:56 PM, Mark Regan wrote:
> > https://www.openmainframeproject.org/blog/2022/01/12/2022-predictions
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark Regan
>
> Best to watch this one rather than read it. The transcription isn't great.
>
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Re: More z/OS 2.5 install fun

2022-01-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
Is there any zOSMF documentation on SMS/ACS requirements? Any references to 
Chapter 85. VATLSTxx (volume attribute list in the initialization and tuna 
reference?


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Subject: More z/OS 2.5 install fun

I’m trying to install z/OS 2.5 with zOSMF. It get’s to the point of restoring 
files, but at some point I get this message:

JOB00189  IEF244I IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP - UNABLE TO ALLOCATE 1 UNIT(S)
AT LEAST 1 OFFLINE UNIT(S) NEEDED.
JOB00189  IEF877E IZUD04UZ NEEDS 1 UNIT(S)
FOR GIMUNZIP SYSUT1
FOR VOLUME SCRTCH-   1
OFFLINE, NOT ACCESSIBLE
0120-013F 0160-017F 0226-022F 023A-027F 02A0-02FF 0320-037F 03A0-03FF
0700-071F 0980-099F 0C00-0C1F 0D40-0D5F 1200-19FF 2000-21FF 3000-31FF
4000-41FF 5000-51FF 6000-61FF 7000-71FF 8000-81FF 9000-91FF A000-A1FF
B000-B1FF C000-C1FF D000-D1FF E000-E1FF F000-F1FF
:
JOB00189  IEF878I END OF IEF877E FOR IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP SYSUT1
JOB00189 *52 IEF238D IZUD04UZ - REPLY DEVICE NAME OR 'CANCEL'.

This is the point in the install where it is trying to restore this file:

CB.SYS1.AFOMHFS

According to the dialog, the file is just under 35,000 tracks. The volume on 
which it is supposed to be allocated has well over 133,000 tracks available.

SYSUT1... Is this related to the /tmp space used to unpack the file?

All of the volumes are online:

D U,,,223,3
IEE457I 18.45.30 UNIT STATUS 579
UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE  SS
0223 3390 O 25XR02 PRIV/RSDNT 0
0224 3390 O 25XR03 PRIV/RSDNT 0
0225 3390 A 25XD03 PRIV/RSDNT 0
D U,,,235,5
IEE457I 18.46.02 UNIT STATUS 583
UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE  SS
0235 3390 O 25XRES PRIV/RSDNT 0
0236 3390 A 25XCAT PRIV/RSDNT 0
0237 3390 O 25XD01 PRIV/RSDNT 0
0238 3390 O 25XD02 PRIV/RSDNT 0
0239 3390 O 25XR01 PRIV/RSDNT 0

Rich Smrcina


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Re: More z/OS 2.5 install fun

2022-01-13 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> I’m trying to install z/OS 2.5 with zOSMF. It get’s to the point of 
> restoring files, but at some point I get this message:
> 
> JOB00189  IEF244I IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP - UNABLE TO ALLOCATE 1 UNIT(S) 
> AT LEAST 1 OFFLINE UNIT(S) NEEDED. 
> JOB00189  IEF877E IZUD04UZ NEEDS 1 UNIT(S) 
> FOR GIMUNZIP SYSUT1 
> FOR VOLUME SCRTCH-   1 
> OFFLINE, NOT ACCESSIBLE 
> 0120-013F 0160-017F 0226-022F 023A-027F 02A0-02FF 0320-037F 03A0-03FF 
> 0700-071F 0980-099F 0C00-0C1F 0D40-0D5F 1200-19FF 2000-21FF 3000-31FF 
> 4000-41FF 5000-51FF 6000-61FF 7000-71FF 8000-81FF 9000-91FF A000-A1FF 
> B000-B1FF C000-C1FF D000-D1FF E000-E1FF F000-F1FF 
> : 
> JOB00189  IEF878I END OF IEF877E FOR IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP SYSUT1 
> JOB00189 *52 IEF238D IZUD04UZ - REPLY DEVICE NAME OR 'CANCEL'. 
> 
> This is the point in the install where it is trying to restore this 
file:
> 
> CB.SYS1.AFOMHFS
> 
> According to the dialog, the file is just under 35,000 tracks. The 
> volume on which it is supposed to be allocated has well over 133,000
> tracks available.
> 
> SYSUT1... Is this related to the /tmp space used to unpack the file?

Not /tmp, but temporary data sets, yes.  By default GIMUNZIP allocates 
temporary data sets to SYSALLDA, and I'm guessing your SYSALLDA pool 
doesn't have enough free space for this particular data set.  Edit the JCL 
and add this after the  tag:

 

Specify a volser GIMUNZIP should use for temporary data sets.  For more 
information see here:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=routine-gimunzip-package-control-tags

Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  | 
ku...@us.ibm.com 
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Re: stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:09:38 -0500, Phil Smith III  wrote:
>
>>I'm curious: What sort of started task has implicit STDOUT and
>>STDERR? BPXBATCH? I thought BPXBATCH defaults STDIN,
>>STDOUT, and STDERR to /dev/null.
> 
>A started task that's in C and does printfs!
>
Must be POSIX=NO.  Does C fopen() use SVC99 INFO and respect
those DDNAMEs of pre-allocated?

(At times I've been lazy and simply issued ALLOCATE without REUS
and ignored the error.)

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Re: stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
IEFJOBS is a DD you add to MSTJCL00, points to a PDS that contains 
JOBCARD and JOBCARD statements for started task


an IPL would be required IIRC for these changes be take place

the reason for your error


IEFC822I KEYWORD JESDS NOT SUPPORTED AFTER FIRST EXEC STATEMENT


is - the output statement need to be after a jobcard and before any EXEC 
statement


Carmen

On 1/13/2022 2:09 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:

Gil wrote:


I'm curious: What sort of started task has implicit STDOUT and
STDERR? BPXBATCH? I thought BPXBATCH defaults STDIN,
STDOUT, and STDERR to /dev/null.



A started task that's in C and does printfs!

  


Does a JCL OUTPUT statement have any effect?

Can you be more specific? I've looked at
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=reference-output-jcl-statement
and can't imagine what DD it would refer to, is the problem. I mean, if

//STDOUT DD SYSOUT=J

doesn't do anything, it seems like it's not the STDOUT DD?

  


Carmen Vitullo suggested IEFJOBS (which I don't understand at all), and also
OUTPUT with JESDS=ALL. I tried:

//OUT OUTPUT DEFAULT=YES,JESDS=ALL,CLASS=J

but it said:

IEFC822I KEYWORD JESDS NOT SUPPORTED AFTER FIRST EXEC STATEMENT

and then when I moved it before the first EXEC statement:

IEFC019I MISPLACED OUTPUT STATEMENT

  


Paging Mr. Wolf (if we were still Hewlett-Packard Enterprise, I'd say
"Enterprise to Kirk".)


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Re: stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Phil Smith III
Gil wrote:

>I'm curious: What sort of started task has implicit STDOUT and
>STDERR? BPXBATCH? I thought BPXBATCH defaults STDIN,
>STDOUT, and STDERR to /dev/null.



A started task that's in C and does printfs!

 

>Does a JCL OUTPUT statement have any effect?

Can you be more specific? I've looked at
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=reference-output-jcl-statement
and can't imagine what DD it would refer to, is the problem. I mean, if

//STDOUT DD SYSOUT=J

doesn't do anything, it seems like it's not the STDOUT DD?

 

Carmen Vitullo suggested IEFJOBS (which I don't understand at all), and also
OUTPUT with JESDS=ALL. I tried:

//OUT OUTPUT DEFAULT=YES,JESDS=ALL,CLASS=J

but it said:

IEFC822I KEYWORD JESDS NOT SUPPORTED AFTER FIRST EXEC STATEMENT

and then when I moved it before the first EXEC statement:

IEFC019I MISPLACED OUTPUT STATEMENT

 

Paging Mr. Wolf (if we were still Hewlett-Packard Enterprise, I'd say
"Enterprise to Kirk".)


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Re: stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Gibney, Dave
As mentioned, implementing //IEFJOB DD allows you to add JOB cards (with 
MSGCLAS) to STCs.
You can also add //OUTPUT and /*jes cards

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: stdout SPOOL class?
> 
> Z/osmf, IZUSVR1, the Angel process, IZUANG1, and I think CFZCIM may
> 
> they do execute BPXBATCH or BPXBATSL -
> 
> there may be others, those are one's I know of
> 
> I'm not sure an OUTPUT statement would have any affect
> 
> Carmen
> 
> On 1/13/2022 1:50 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:57:11 -0500, Phil Smith III  wrote:
> >> ...
> >> possible? Mr. Google didn't find much. I tried adding explicit DDs for
> >> STDOUT (and STDERR, just in case) but they didn't seem to make any
> >> difference.
> >>
> > I'm curious:  What sort of started task has implicit STDOUT and
> > STDERR?  BPXBATCH?  I thought BPXBATCH defaults STDIN,
> > STDOUT, and STDERR to /dev/null.
> >
> > Does a JCL OUTPUT statement have any effect?
> >
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More z/OS 2.5 install fun

2022-01-13 Thread Rich Smrcina
I’m trying to install z/OS 2.5 with zOSMF. It get’s to the point of restoring 
files, but at some point I get this message:

JOB00189  IEF244I IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP - UNABLE TO ALLOCATE 1 UNIT(S)
AT LEAST 1 OFFLINE UNIT(S) NEEDED.
JOB00189  IEF877E IZUD04UZ NEEDS 1 UNIT(S)
FOR GIMUNZIP SYSUT1   
FOR VOLUME SCRTCH-   1
OFFLINE, NOT ACCESSIBLE   
0120-013F 0160-017F 0226-022F 023A-027F 02A0-02FF 0320-037F 03A0-03FF 
0700-071F 0980-099F 0C00-0C1F 0D40-0D5F 1200-19FF 2000-21FF 3000-31FF 
4000-41FF 5000-51FF 6000-61FF 7000-71FF 8000-81FF 9000-91FF A000-A1FF 
B000-B1FF C000-C1FF D000-D1FF E000-E1FF F000-F1FF 
: 
JOB00189  IEF878I END OF IEF877E FOR IZUD04UZ GIMUNZIP SYSUT1 
JOB00189 *52 IEF238D IZUD04UZ - REPLY DEVICE NAME OR 'CANCEL'.

This is the point in the install where it is trying to restore this file:

CB.SYS1.AFOMHFS

According to the dialog, the file is just under 35,000 tracks. The volume on 
which it is supposed to be allocated has well over 133,000 tracks available.

SYSUT1... Is this related to the /tmp space used to unpack the file?

All of the volumes are online:

D U,,,223,3  
IEE457I 18.45.30 UNIT STATUS 579 
UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE  SS  
0223 3390 O 25XR02 PRIV/RSDNT 0  
0224 3390 O 25XR03 PRIV/RSDNT 0  
0225 3390 A 25XD03 PRIV/RSDNT 0  
D U,,,235,5  
IEE457I 18.46.02 UNIT STATUS 583 
UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE  SS  
0235 3390 O 25XRES PRIV/RSDNT 0  
0236 3390 A 25XCAT PRIV/RSDNT 0  
0237 3390 O 25XD01 PRIV/RSDNT 0  
0238 3390 O 25XD02 PRIV/RSDNT 0  
0239 3390 O 25XR01 PRIV/RSDNT 0  

Rich Smrcina


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Re: stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo

Z/osmf, IZUSVR1, the Angel process, IZUANG1, and I think CFZCIM may

they do execute BPXBATCH or BPXBATSL -

there may be others, those are one's I know of

I'm not sure an OUTPUT statement would have any affect

Carmen

On 1/13/2022 1:50 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:57:11 -0500, Phil Smith III  wrote:

...
possible? Mr. Google didn't find much. I tried adding explicit DDs for
STDOUT (and STDERR, just in case) but they didn't seem to make any
difference.


I'm curious:  What sort of started task has implicit STDOUT and
STDERR?  BPXBATCH?  I thought BPXBATCH defaults STDIN,
STDOUT, and STDERR to /dev/null.

Does a JCL OUTPUT statement have any effect?

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Re: stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:57:11 -0500, Phil Smith III  wrote:
>...
>possible? Mr. Google didn't find much. I tried adding explicit DDs for
>STDOUT (and STDERR, just in case) but they didn't seem to make any
>difference.
>
I'm curious:  What sort of started task has implicit STDOUT and
STDERR?  BPXBATCH?  I thought BPXBATCH defaults STDIN,
STDOUT, and STDERR to /dev/null.

Does a JCL OUTPUT statement have any effect?

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Re: Fwd: Where do we go from here? 2022 Predictions By Open Mainframe Project

2022-01-13 Thread Gord Tomlin

On 2022-01-13 13:56 PM, Mark Regan wrote:

https://www.openmainframeproject.org/blog/2022/01/12/2022-predictions

Regards,

Mark Regan


Best to watch this one rather than read it. The transcription isn't great.

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Re: stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Use of IEFJOBS in MSTJCL00 may help, I've never tried using an OUTPUT 
statement there, but it may be worth a try,


//OUT OUTPUT  DEFAULT=YES,JESDS=ALL,CLASS=? not sure the JESDS =ALL will 
catch anything other than JESLOG,JESMSGS an JESJCL


I've had issues with temp datasets myself and trying to manage 
allocation and or sysout, I don't think I myself have ever solved this.



Carmen

On 1/13/2022 12:57 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:

Given an STC whose stdout goes to a SYSn data set, is there a way to
control the class of that output? I know the MSGCLASS= value on the STCCLASS
statement in a JES initialization member sets the default for the STC
output, but we want the SYSn for one STC to be different. Is that
possible? Mr. Google didn't find much. I tried adding explicit DDs for
STDOUT (and STDERR, just in case) but they didn't seem to make any
difference.


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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Thanks for the additional information. I'll file it away if we get a z15. On a 
z14_ZR1 at the moment.

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:57:40 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
 wrote:

>Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
>licensing and getting? 😊
>
>For the record, we already have the HW feature installed. Don’t ask.  
>

Consider with the IBM z15, there is no longer any "license requirement" for 
activation - no longer implemented with (z14, z13) hardware PCIe cards 
(recommended: at least 4 per CPC/CEC) involved, as the function is on-chip.  
And the performance measurement moves from RMF 74 subtype 9 to subtype 10; 
also, some of the SMF 30 metrics are zeroed-out as no longer relevant.

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stdout SPOOL class?

2022-01-13 Thread Phil Smith III
Given an STC whose stdout goes to a SYSn data set, is there a way to
control the class of that output? I know the MSGCLASS= value on the STCCLASS
statement in a JES initialization member sets the default for the STC
output, but we want the SYSn for one STC to be different. Is that
possible? Mr. Google didn't find much. I tried adding explicit DDs for
STDOUT (and STDERR, just in case) but they didn't seem to make any
difference.


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Fwd: Where do we go from here? 2022 Predictions By Open Mainframe Project

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.openmainframeproject.org/blog/2022/01/12/2022-predictions

Regards,

Mark Regan

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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Scott Barry
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:57:40 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
 wrote:

>Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
>licensing and getting? 😊
>
>For t e record, we already have the HW feature installed. Don’t ask.  
>
>
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Consider with the IBM z15, there is no longer any "license requirement" for 
activation - no longer implemented with (z14, z13) hardware PCIe cards 
(recommended: at least 4 per CPC/CEC) involved, as the function is on-chip.  
And the performance measurement moves from RMF 74 subtype 9 to subtype 10; 
also, some of the SMF 30 metrics are zeroed-out as no longer relevant.

Scott Barry
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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Thank you, Kolusu! 

Excellent whitepaper!

And thanks to Dave too. That point is very well taken.

Bob

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> Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
> licensing and getting? 😊


Try this White paper

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/zEDC_White_Paper.pdf


Thanks,
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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Sri h Kolusu


> Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is
> worth licensing and getting? 😊


Try this White paper

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/zEDC_White_Paper.pdf


Thanks,
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Re: zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Jousma
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:57:40 +, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) 
 wrote:

>Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
>licensing and getting? 😊
>
>For t e record, we already have the HW feature installed. Don’t ask.  
>

Bob,

I don't have either handy, but IMO the biggest reason to use it is if you are 
also doing dataset level encryption.   IBM's sales slides indicate compress 
first, then encrypt (encrypting less physical data), to offset the resource 
cost of encryption.  I honestly cannot think of another good reason beyond 
that, although there may be some.

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Re: Can I use a NAS attached to z/OS

2022-01-13 Thread Tom Brennan
And maybe this is related:  Last year a client wanted to test 
Transparent Cloud Tiering which I was told is a method for DS8000/TS7000 
to dump data to an S3 server directly from the storage boxes.  I didn't 
participate in the testing so I don't know much about that end, but when 
they had trouble finding an S3 server for the proof-of-concept, I 
suggested a small Linux/minio box on site since I had heard IBM uses 
minio for their own testing.  The minio notes I googled were really 
complex, talking about configuring Docker, multiple containers, etc. 
But it turns out I didn't need any of that.  I installed Red Hat on a 
spare (but fairly powerful) x86 server, then simply copied the minio 
binary from web to server (no yum install, no nothing), configured one 
file with userid/password, started minio from a command line, and it 
worked perfectly for the POC.


On 1/13/2022 12:02 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:

Colin Paice wrote:

Thank you - that answers the  problem I was having.  Does lack of
information mean it cannot be done - or it is just not documented. In

this

case it means, it cannot be done.


Well, don't be so hasty :-) Here's another possible route as an
example:

1. At least some Synology NAS devices support on board installation of
MinIO. MinIO provides support for the "S3" cloud object storage protocol.
Here are some sample instructions on how to do that for a particular
Synology model:

https://jonaharagon.me/installing-minio-on-synology-diskstation-4823caf600c3

2. Get IBM Advanced Archive for DFSMShsm, IBM Program Number 5698-AAD.
(Also included as part of IBM Program Number 5698-AAJ if you prefer to get
it that way.) This software product equips z/OS DFSMShsm with the ability
to use a ML3-like tier that consists of Amazon S3 or IBM Cloud Object
Storage. Thus it should be able to use your MinIO-equipped Synology NAS
device as a ML3-like storage tier. (Insert usual disclaimers here.)
Encryption recommended, both for the S3 network connection and the data
itself (z/OS Data Set Encryption as a notable example).

If Step 1 isn't available on your particular Synology device then you
could insert a small MinIO or IBM Spectrum Scale (another good example)
server in the loop running somewhere else. That *could* be a really,
really lightweight server such as a Raspberry Pi or similar. You just need
a S3 or IBM Cloud Object Storage compatible server "in the loop"
somewhere. Perhaps it could run in the z/OS Container Extensions (zCX).

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Re: Ad message paradigm (Re: Ad NetRexx (Re: Ad programming features (Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-13 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
You're on your own for z/OS-specific python scripts.  Mr. Google will let you 
see many python examples out on the net, but none I suspect oriented on z/OS 
facilities.

As for JCL, I use IBM's batch utility to run awk scripts, I don't know of 
python will work in the same way due to the difference between the open() and 
fopen() library routines in the IBM C library.  The awk command uses fopen() 
which allows DD's to be used as files, many other IBM Unix commands use open() 
which does NOT allow DD's to be used as files.  I do not know what the IBM or 
Rocket python implementation is using, as I do not have it here to test (we are 
at 2.3 here).

The fopen() vs open() differences may well disappear with the announced move to 
"full dataset access" for z/OS Unix services, but we don't have a delivery date 
for that functionality that I have seen.

Here is an example awk JCL I have used successfully:

//**
//* INVOKE AWK SCRIPT 
//**
// EXPORT SYMLIST=*
//RUNAWK   EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,   
// PARMDD=PARMIN
//STDOUT   DD  DISP=(NEW,CATLG,CATLG),  
// DSN=&SYSUID..AWK.OUTPUT.FILE,   
// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(050,050),RLSE),
// DSORG=PS,RECFM=VA,LRECL=516,BLKSIZE=0,BUFNO=31   
//STDERR   DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SCRIPT   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=&SYSUID..TEST.AWK(TESTAWK)  
//AWKINDD  DISP=SHR,DSN=&SYSUID..TEST.AWKIN,  
// BUFNO=31 
//STDENV   DD  *
_BPX_SHAREAS=MUST   
_BPX_BATCH_SPAWN=YES
//STDINDD  DUMMY
//PARMIN   DD  *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY
PGM /bin/awk -v OUTF=//DD:STDOUT -f //DD:SCRIPT //'&SYSUID..OTHER.DATA.FILE'
 
  //DD:AWKIN
//

Peter

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(Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

All of this sounds interesting, so if I wanted to try out some Python scripts 
to see how they stack up to Rexx, where might I find some Python source members 
along with JCL members to run them?

Thanks!
Billy

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>It is my understanding that Java is and has been available in z/OS for a long 
>time now, but not from TSO or CLIST directly.  From REXX via SYSCALL and 
>BPXWUNIX I suspect it is possible, but not from, e.g., the TSO / ISPF command 
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zEDC Justification documents or links

2022-01-13 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Anyone have some good links to share that will state why zEDC is worth 
licensing and getting? 😊

For the record, we already have the HW feature installed. Don’t ask.  



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Re: NetView question

2022-01-13 Thread John Blythe Reid
Hi Mark,

Thanks a lot that's good to know. In this case I've just discovered it in the 
Defining Automation Policy manual. It generates this command by default. I need 
to add a parameter to the command and this can be done using the Application 
Information screen specifying the string of characters to be added. So the 
command itself doesn't need to be defined, just the parameters.

The example in the manual is that if you want the command to be this:

S VTAM,,,(LIST=00)

Then you need to define this in the Application Information Startup Parameters 
field:

,,,(LIST=00)

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Re: NetView question

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Regan
John,

In case you're not aware, there is a NetView and a SAusers group on
groups.io where you can post your question to also.

marktre...@gmail.com

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, 10:35 John Blythe Reid 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a question about this NetView screen:
>
> AOFKINFO Automation Control - Command Dialogs  Line 57of
> 166
> Domain Id . : NETVx DISPINFO    Date . . :
> 01/13/22
> Operator Id : xTime . . :
> 16:15:33
>
>  Subsystem  =>  ADAxxx  Target  =>  CPUx System name, domain ID
>
>  or sysplex name
>
>
>Start Up Process -
>
>  Prestart :
>
>None
>
>
>  Startup :
>
>
>Start command to be used  :
>
>  MVS S ADAxxx
>
>
>User Start Up Commands :
>
>  CMD=(NORMAL,,'MVS S ADAxxx,MSGCLASS=T')
>
>  CMD=(EMER,,'MVS S ADAxxx,MSGCLASS=T,ING=Y')
>
> In the policy definition for Automation Control the two 'User Start Up
> Commands' are defined. However the 'Start command to be used', the 'MVS S
> ADAxxx' is not defined anywhere. But it must have come from somewhere.
>
> I've been digging through the manuals to no avail. Could anyone please
> shed any light on where this command would have come from ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> John.
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Re: Ad message paradigm (Re: Ad NetRexx (Re: Ad programming features (Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-13 Thread Billy Ashton
All of this sounds interesting, so if I wanted to try out some Python 
scripts to see how they stack up to Rexx, where might I find some Python 
source members along with JCL members to run them?


Thanks!
Billy

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z/OS



It is my understanding that Java is and has been available in z/OS for a long 
time now, but not from TSO or CLIST directly.  From REXX via SYSCALL and 
BPXWUNIX I suspect it is possible, but not from, e.g., the TSO / ISPF command 
line directly


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2022-01-13 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
It is my understanding that Java is and has been available in z/OS for a long 
time now, but not from TSO or CLIST directly.  From REXX via SYSCALL and 
BPXWUNIX I suspect it is possible, but not from, e.g., the TSO / ISPF command 
line directly.

The python interpreter is I think going to be standard at z/OS 2.5, with I 
think IBM's version and not Rocket's (unless IBM's is just a repackaging of the 
Rocket version, which I do not know one way or the other).

My general impression is that you will be able to use python from the Unix 
system services command line, but not directly from TSO or CLIST.  Obviously 
also available in batch via one of the XXXBATCH programs (IBM's or Dovetail's). 
 I run awk scripts in batch that way with no issues, though I often wish they 
had gawk instead of the POSIX awk they now provide.

What I also wish IBM would provide as a standard component is the bash shell.  
Their POSIX sh and tcsh are difficult for me to use, and I suspect for others 
as well.  Knowledge of the bash shell is far more pervasive in the community 
(and particularly in the generations following us) than either of the two 
shells IBM now provides.

HTH

Peter

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I keep seeing references like this, from time to time, but so far whenever I 
ask I get answers that aren't quite what I was looking for.  Am I hearing that 
both Java and Python are available in TSO, like CLIST and REXX?  Or only in 
some environment with which I am (so far) unfamiliar, such as OMVS?  I'm 
thinking it's about time I tacked on another language or two, but I'm most 
interested in one that requires the least effort by a client to maintain it 
afterward.  No languages that aren't already built in, that would be, and it 
should be accessible from TSO because most of the folks who hire me aren't Unix 
jocks.

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I did run a Javascript benchtest on z/OS using IBMs Node.js port. I was 
pleasantly surprised to see that IBM have done an amazing job porting the V8 
JavaScript engine to z/OS. It nukes Python.
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NetView question

2022-01-13 Thread John Blythe Reid
Hello,

I have a question about this NetView screen:

AOFKINFO Automation Control - Command Dialogs  Line 57of 166  
Domain Id . : NETVx DISPINFO    Date . . : 01/13/22
Operator Id : xTime . . : 16:15:33
  
 Subsystem  =>  ADAxxx  Target  =>  CPUx System name, domain ID   
 or sysplex name  
  
   Start Up Process - 
 Prestart :   
   None   
  
 Startup :
  
   Start command to be used  :
 MVS S ADAxxx 
  
   User Start Up Commands :   
 CMD=(NORMAL,,'MVS S ADAxxx,MSGCLASS=T')  
 CMD=(EMER,,'MVS S ADAxxx,MSGCLASS=T,ING=Y') 

In the policy definition for Automation Control the two 'User Start Up 
Commands' are defined. However the 'Start command to be used', the 'MVS S 
ADAxxx' is not defined anywhere. But it must have come from somewhere.

I've been digging through the manuals to no avail. Could anyone please shed any 
light on where this command would have come from ?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
John.

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Re: Change password

2022-01-13 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Thanks

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Gadi,

Use of the operand REVOKE(date) requires SPECIAL. It might work if the user 
executing the ALTUSER command is the owner of the user profile (e.g., ).

Regards, Bob

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Date:Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:28:30 +
From:Gadi Ben-Avi 
Subject: Change password

Hi,
I would like to allow a user that does not have the special or group special 
attribute to issue the following command succefully:
alu   password() resume noexpire  revoke ( 01/13/22 )

Is this possible?
Right now the command fails with
ICH408I USER(OP01) GROUP(OPER) NAME(OPER-01 )
  PARTIAL VIOLATION ON COMMAND ALTUSER


We are running z/OS v2.4.

Gadi

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Re: Change password

2022-01-13 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Gadi,

Use of the operand REVOKE(date) requires SPECIAL. It might work if the user 
executing the ALTUSER command is the owner of the user profile (e.g., ).

Regards, Bob

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-Original Message-
Date:Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:28:30 +
From:Gadi Ben-Avi 
Subject: Change password

Hi,
I would like to allow a user that does not have the special or group special 
attribute to issue the following command succefully:
alu   password() resume noexpire  revoke ( 01/13/22 )

Is this possible?
Right now the command fails with
ICH408I USER(OP01) GROUP(OPER) NAME(OPER-01 )
  PARTIAL VIOLATION ON COMMAND ALTUSER


We are running z/OS v2.4.

Gadi

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Re: Can I use a NAS attached to z/OS

2022-01-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Colin Paice wrote:
>Thank you - that answers the  problem I was having.  Does lack of
>information mean it cannot be done - or it is just not documented. In 
this
>case it means, it cannot be done.

Well, don't be so hasty :-) Here's another possible route as an 
example:

1. At least some Synology NAS devices support on board installation of 
MinIO. MinIO provides support for the "S3" cloud object storage protocol. 
Here are some sample instructions on how to do that for a particular 
Synology model:

https://jonaharagon.me/installing-minio-on-synology-diskstation-4823caf600c3

2. Get IBM Advanced Archive for DFSMShsm, IBM Program Number 5698-AAD. 
(Also included as part of IBM Program Number 5698-AAJ if you prefer to get 
it that way.) This software product equips z/OS DFSMShsm with the ability 
to use a ML3-like tier that consists of Amazon S3 or IBM Cloud Object 
Storage. Thus it should be able to use your MinIO-equipped Synology NAS 
device as a ML3-like storage tier. (Insert usual disclaimers here.) 
Encryption recommended, both for the S3 network connection and the data 
itself (z/OS Data Set Encryption as a notable example).

If Step 1 isn't available on your particular Synology device then you 
could insert a small MinIO or IBM Spectrum Scale (another good example) 
server in the loop running somewhere else. That *could* be a really, 
really lightweight server such as a Raspberry Pi or similar. You just need 
a S3 or IBM Cloud Object Storage compatible server "in the loop" 
somewhere. Perhaps it could run in the z/OS Container Extensions (zCX).

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