Re: 3420 conversion?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 13:01, Phil Smith III wrote: Is a 40-year-old tape going to be physically readable? I have no idea, but > wonder. I have some 30-year-plus tapes in the basement, but hope not to > ever > care (and as time marches on, the odds of course reduce.) > I managed to read tapes from around 1972-79 that I had kept in an open carton in my attic through summer heat and winter cold. The only ones I couldn't read turned out to be 800 BPI, and not supported by my drive. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
Tony, IBM Sterling Forest used to have tape drives dating back to the stone age for just this purpose. No idea what the process is to use them, if indeed they still exist. Is a 40-year-old tape going to be physically readable? I have no idea, but wonder. I have some 30-year-plus tapes in the basement, but hope not to ever care (and as time marches on, the odds of course reduce.) ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
I have found someone that will convert it. As it's 40 years old, I will report back the success or failure of the conversion. Tony Thigpen M. Ray Mullins wrote on 2/10/23 11:57: The only person that comes to mind is Al Kossow of Bitsavers, but based on your other comment I understand the reluctance of shipping. (He read my old Prime tapes and back when Paul Allen's museum was running, they became the base for their PRIMOS emulations.) On 2023-02-09 17:32, Tony Thigpen wrote: I need a single 3420 tape converted. Anyone know of someone that can do it? Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
The only person that comes to mind is Al Kossow of Bitsavers, but based on your other comment I understand the reluctance of shipping. (He read my old Prime tapes and back when Paul Allen's museum was running, they became the base for their PRIMOS emulations.) On 2023-02-09 17:32, Tony Thigpen wrote: I need a single 3420 tape converted. Anyone know of someone that can do it? Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
Classification: Confidential The OP might try Sungard or one of the other BR providers. They usually have older devices available. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 8:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3420 conversion? [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 at 20:33, Tony Thigpen wrote: > I need a single 3420 tape converted. Anyone know of someone that can do it? Buncha questions... Where is the tape, how much of a rush are you in, what's the recording density/tracks, how old is the tape itself, how old is the recording, how bad is it if it gets damaged or lost, how confidential is the data? And what kind of output do you expect? There are still a few services doing this, but fewer than there were a decade or so ago. Mike Baldwin who is on IBM-MAIN might be able to do it for you or point you to a good place near wherever you are. I can do it for no charge, but it may take quite a while since it's just me being a hobbyist and digging out my ancient 9348 drive and plugging it into a Linux box and converting to an AWS file. I have converted quite a few tapes from the early 1970s without problem, but I can offer no guarantee. I would say I'd be near the bottom of your list. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
There are several companies that specialize in tape conversions such as https://datadesigninc.com/tape-media-data-conversions/ Just search 9 track tape conversions… -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 at 22:00, Tony Thigpen wrote: > This is an ICCF backup from '82 that I have keep inside all these years. [...] > What state are you in? I am not sure I want to mail it and it get damaged. Even more reason not to send it to me - I'm in Toronto (Ontario), so you doubtless don't want cross-border inspection (X-ray?) and such on top of probably more expensive shipping. Do ask Mike Baldwin for suggestions - he's near Toronto too, but probably knows someone closer to you. And that link posted earlier is logistically and geographically closer to you than I am. Maybe they'll give a hobbyist a break. Good luck, Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
Tony H., This is an ICCF backup from '82 that I have keep inside all these years. It is from my first job and that company is long gone. There is one specific program that I wrote then that I want to revive. While I would rewrite it in assembler (it's FCOBOL), the logic was complicated and I don't want to reinvent it if possible. I hoping to reload the few libraries with programs I want into one of my current z/VSE systems and then . I know it's 9-track. It's just program source, no personal information. Standard single labeled file: VOL1/HDR1,tape mark, data (blocked 81 byte records), tape mark, EOF/EOV. What state are you in? I am not sure I want to mail it and it get damaged. Tony Thigpen 407-474-0770 Tony Harminc wrote on 2/9/23 21:42: On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 at 20:33, Tony Thigpen wrote: I need a single 3420 tape converted. Anyone know of someone that can do it? Buncha questions... Where is the tape, how much of a rush are you in, what's the recording density/tracks, how old is the tape itself, how old is the recording, how bad is it if it gets damaged or lost, how confidential is the data? And what kind of output do you expect? There are still a few services doing this, but fewer than there were a decade or so ago. Mike Baldwin who is on IBM-MAIN might be able to do it for you or point you to a good place near wherever you are. I can do it for no charge, but it may take quite a while since it's just me being a hobbyist and digging out my ancient 9348 drive and plugging it into a Linux box and converting to an AWS file. I have converted quite a few tapes from the early 1970s without problem, but I can offer no guarantee. I would say I'd be near the bottom of your list. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 at 20:33, Tony Thigpen wrote: > I need a single 3420 tape converted. Anyone know of someone that can do it? Buncha questions... Where is the tape, how much of a rush are you in, what's the recording density/tracks, how old is the tape itself, how old is the recording, how bad is it if it gets damaged or lost, how confidential is the data? And what kind of output do you expect? There are still a few services doing this, but fewer than there were a decade or so ago. Mike Baldwin who is on IBM-MAIN might be able to do it for you or point you to a good place near wherever you are. I can do it for no charge, but it may take quite a while since it's just me being a hobbyist and digging out my ancient 9348 drive and plugging it into a Linux box and converting to an AWS file. I have converted quite a few tapes from the early 1970s without problem, but I can offer no guarantee. I would say I'd be near the bottom of your list. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3420 conversion?
Found this link. https://datadesigninc.com/tape-conversions/ Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Thursday, February 9th, 2023 at 8:32 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > I need a single 3420 tape converted. Anyone know of someone that can do it? > > Tony Thigpen > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
