Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

2019-12-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
Don't rub it in. I wish that IBM would port XEDIT to TSO, or enhance ISPF to 
provide, e.g., SET PENDING, control files.


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Yes.    Use XEDIT and CMSUPDTE.  They work well, but are VM only,

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Lionel,

Many years ago we developed a change management tool for an Israeli client that 
ued CA datacom based on SCLM. We used to perform merge by comparing the two 
versions (Ispf SUPERC). When configured it is a smart tool that tels you the 
location, if it is new line or update inline, etc.  Try this approach. I may 
look at my archives to see if I still have this module.

ITschak

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 4:33 PM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:

> What is available to be used for the mergetool for git on z/OS?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> I've looked using google/bing without success.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <
> Website:  
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Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

2019-12-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 09:44:11 -0500, Lloyd Fuller wrote:

>Yes.    Use XEDIT and CMSUPDTE.  They work well, but are VM only,
>
Sigh.  ISRSUPC PARM=UPDCMS8 will generate usable CMSUPDTE diffs if
the OLD file has valid sequence numbers.  ISRSUPC PARM=UPDMVS8
requires that both OLD and NEW have valid sequence numbers, providing
no recovery from undisciplined coders.  When necessary I have used
ISRSUPC PARM=UPDCMS8 followed by a Rexx filter to convert to
IEBUPTDE format.

What about "diff" (better diff3, but non-POSIX) followed by "patch"?


>-Original Message-
>From: ITschak Mugzach
>Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 9:42 AM
>
>Many years ago we developed a change management tool for an Israeli client 
>that ued CA datacom based on SCLM. We used to perform merge by comparing the 
>two versions (Ispf SUPERC). When configured it is a smart tool that tels you 
>the location, if it is new line or update inline, etc.  Try this approach. I 
>may look at my archives to see if I still have this module

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Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

2019-12-03 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Yes.    Use XEDIT and CMSUPDTE.  They work well, but are VM only,

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 9:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

Lionel,

Many years ago we developed a change management tool for an Israeli client that 
ued CA datacom based on SCLM. We used to perform merge by comparing the two 
versions (Ispf SUPERC). When configured it is a smart tool that tels you the 
location, if it is new line or update inline, etc.  Try this approach. I may 
look at my archives to see if I still have this module.

ITschak

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 4:33 PM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:

> What is available to be used for the mergetool for git on z/OS?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> I've looked using google/bing without success.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <
> Website:  <http://www.lbdsoftware.com/> http://www.lbdsoftware.com
>
> "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is 
> what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John 
> Wooden
>
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Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

2019-12-03 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Lionel,

Many years ago we developed a change management tool for an Israeli client
that ued CA datacom based on SCLM. We used to perform merge by comparing
the two versions (Ispf SUPERC). When configured it is a smart tool that
tels you the location, if it is new line or update inline, etc.  Try this
approach. I may look at my archives to see if I still have this module.

ITschak

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 4:33 PM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:

> What is available to be used for the mergetool for git on z/OS?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> I've looked using google/bing without success.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <
> Website:  <http://www.lbdsoftware.com/> http://www.lbdsoftware.com
>
> "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
> you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
>
>
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Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

2019-12-03 Thread Lionel B Dyck
What is available to be used for the mergetool for git on z/OS?

 

Thanks

 

I've looked using google/bing without success.

 

 

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Re: "git" for z/OS announced

2019-04-02 Thread Rob Scott
My 2c :

I have been using "Git for z/OS" for the products that I am involved in for 
over a year now and I *love* it.

During early pilot conversion from SCLM, the "a-ha" moment was realizing that 
if you use zFS file system as your actual workspace where you change the source 
(i.e do not try to fudge in PDS/PDSEs) then everything just falls into place 
and works beautifully. There are other paradigm shifts involved as you have to 
move from a rigid development "hierarchy" view with promotions to something 
more fluid that will require conflict resolution at "check-in" time.
The BitBucket interface helps hugely for the remote repository management and 
the built-in git "merge" command is pretty smart.

If there is a downside, it is that ISPF functionality in 3.17 is not as rich as 
normal PDS/Es - for example, you cannot filter the directory list contents 
after a "SRCHFOR" command.

Rob Scott
Rocket Software

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"git" for z/OS announced

2019-04-02 Thread John McKown
Port by Rocket Software

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IBM Elite Support for Rocket Software Git for z/OS is a support-only
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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-12 Thread Scott Ford
We  (IDMWORKS) are using Git via 'bitbucket.org' , we are in the process of
developing CI PC to Mainframe integrated processes.

The toughest thing for e is the Git organization.


Scott

On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Kirk Wolf  wrote:

> Agreed - Rocket's work to port updated tools to z/OS is great.   I believe
> that they have a paid support model, which hopefully will be embraced by
> the community so that they can justify even more good work.
>
> Regarding System R, you can also run this from z/OS batch using the Co:Z
> Launcher utility.  See an example below.
> (The Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit is available under our free Community
> License and can be downloaded without registering.)
>
> Some features of this approach:
>
> - Run R under the control of a regular z/OS batch job step.
> - processing is offloaded to a Linux server; perhaps an IFL
> - z/OS datasets can be accessed by the distribute process via the job step
> - output goes to z/OS spool files
> - the exit code of the remote process is adopted as the step condition code
>
>
> //R EXEC PROC=COZPROC,
> //ARGS='k...@linux1.dovetail.com '
> //LIFEEXP DD DISP=SHR,DSN=KIRK.LIFEEXP.DATA
> //STDIN DD *
> # Run the R statistical system with an inline program
> # This example is a 2-dimensional multiple regression
> # The dataset is read from a DD using "fromdsn" in a R pipe file.
> # The source of the data is:
> # www.sci.usq.edu.au/staff/dunn/Datasets/applications/health/lifeexp.html
>
> R --no-save  < mypipe = pipe("fromdsn DD:LIFEEXP", open="r")
> life = read.table(mypipe, header=TRUE)
> close(mypipe)
> multilinearFit = lm(LifeExp~PeoplePerTV+PeoplePerDoctor,data=life)
> summary(multilinearFit)
> EOB
> //
>
>
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
>
> PS> Co:Z is agnostic about what you run with it.  You can offload SAS in a
> similar way:
> http://dovetail.com/products/casestudysas.html
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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
Agreed - Rocket's work to port updated tools to z/OS is great.   I believe
that they have a paid support model, which hopefully will be embraced by
the community so that they can justify even more good work.

Regarding System R, you can also run this from z/OS batch using the Co:Z
Launcher utility.  See an example below.
(The Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit is available under our free Community
License and can be downloaded without registering.)

Some features of this approach:

- Run R under the control of a regular z/OS batch job step.
- processing is offloaded to a Linux server; perhaps an IFL
- z/OS datasets can be accessed by the distribute process via the job step
- output goes to z/OS spool files
- the exit code of the remote process is adopted as the step condition code


//R EXEC PROC=COZPROC,
//ARGS='k...@linux1.dovetail.com'
//LIFEEXP DD DISP=SHR,DSN=KIRK.LIFEEXP.DATA
//STDIN DD *
# Run the R statistical system with an inline program
# This example is a 2-dimensional multiple regression
# The dataset is read from a DD using "fromdsn" in a R pipe file.
# The source of the data is:
# www.sci.usq.edu.au/staff/dunn/Datasets/applications/health/lifeexp.html

R --no-save   Co:Z is agnostic about what you run with it.  You can offload SAS in a
similar way:
http://dovetail.com/products/casestudysas.html

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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-11 Thread Jerry Callen
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 10:26:55 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com> wrote 
(regarding porting git to z/OS):

>What would be the obstacles to building it in Enhanced ASCII mode?

For a tool like git that has to straddle character encoding worlds, enhanced 
ASCII support (EAS) brings only limited value. We're likely to explicitly 
convert data, and control tagging, for text moving into and out of the 
repository, rather than relying on EAS to Do The Right Thing. Current plans 
(subject to change, of course...) are to support checkout as ISO-8859-1, UTF-8 
or IBM-1047 (or conceivably ANY encoding supported by iconv) and respect tags 
on add/commit of new files.  As I said - it's a challenging problem. Git 
currently ignores encoding altogether, with the exception of line endings (the 
perennial CRLF/LF/CR/whatever problem...).

Given the complexity of the problem, I think IBM has done a fairly decent job 
with EAS. Most of the existing C/C++ tool chain (most notably, of course, xlc) 
do a pretty decent job of handling a mix of character encodings in its input 
files, and the bulk of the POSIX system and library interfaces support ASCII. 
See 
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.bpxbd00/libfuncsupport.htm

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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread David Crayford

On 11/08/2016 8:02 AM, John McKown wrote:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:44 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:


Looks like Rockets R port is using Enhanced ASCII
http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/t/r-the-language-for-statist
ical-computing-is-now-on-z-os/297.


​I have a friend, ex co-worker, who now works for Rocket. Sounds like a
great place to work. Other than the "good will", I ​don't know why they are
doing these ports, but I'm very grateful for it.



Of course we're all pleased that Rocket are porting good stuff to z/OS 
but it's not all about altruism. IBM have partnered with Rocket for the 
z/OS port of Apache Spark. For Spark on z/OS to be credible you need at 
least Python and almost certainly R for SparkR. For Spark to fly (groan) 
on z/OS you really do need Rockets data virtualization product to access 
legacy data. That's good
news for Rocket. Rocket aren't charging OTC for the Spark DVS, only S 
That sure is a change in business model for a mainframe software vendor.



I really like R, the
little I know of it. If they're listening, a full port of GNU awk would be
fantastic (especially with the networking stuff). Also the Google "Go"
language (may be even more difficult since it specifically says that it
only supports UNICODE)





On 10/08/2016 11:32 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:


Gil,

You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap?  I've never heard
that before :-)

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:16:50 -0500, Jerry Callen <jcal...@narsil.org>

wrote:

[Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]

Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As


others have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues.  ...


http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/c/rocket-z-os-open-source-la
nguages-tools
https://github.com/zorts/pause_release

What would be the obstacles to building it in Enhanced ASCII mode?  I

know
there are many; I've never succeed with anything significantly larger
than
"Hello, World" in Enhanced ASCII.

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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:44 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks like Rockets R port is using Enhanced ASCII
> http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/t/r-the-language-for-statist
> ical-computing-is-now-on-z-os/297.
>

​I have a friend, ex co-worker, who now works for Rocket. Sounds like a
great place to work. Other than the "good will", I ​don't know why they are
doing these ports, but I'm very grateful for it. I really like R, the
little I know of it. If they're listening, a full port of GNU awk would be
fantastic (especially with the networking stuff). Also the Google "Go"
language (may be even more difficult since it specifically says that it
only supports UNICODE)



>
>
> On 10/08/2016 11:32 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>> Gil,
>>
>> You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap?  I've never heard
>> that before :-)
>>
>> Kirk Wolf
>> Dovetailed Technologies
>> http://dovetail.com
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
>> 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:16:50 -0500, Jerry Callen <jcal...@narsil.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> [Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]
>>>>
>>>> Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As
>>>>
>>> others have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues.  ...
>>>
>>>> http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/c/rocket-z-os-open-source-la
>>>> nguages-tools
>>>> https://github.com/zorts/pause_release
>>>>
>>>> What would be the obstacles to building it in Enhanced ASCII mode?  I
>>> know
>>> there are many; I've never succeed with anything significantly larger
>>> than
>>> "Hello, World" in Enhanced ASCII.
>>>
>>> -- gil
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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread David Crayford
Looks like Rockets R port is using Enhanced ASCII 
http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/t/r-the-language-for-statistical-computing-is-now-on-z-os/297.



On 10/08/2016 11:32 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:

Gil,

You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap?  I've never heard
that before :-)

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On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:


On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:16:50 -0500, Jerry Callen <jcal...@narsil.org>
wrote:


[Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]

Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As

others have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues.  ...

http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/c/rocket-z-os-open-source-languages-tools
https://github.com/zorts/pause_release


What would be the obstacles to building it in Enhanced ASCII mode?  I know
there are many; I've never succeed with anything significantly larger than
"Hello, World" in Enhanced ASCII.

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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 10:32:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap?  I've never heard
>that before :-)
> 
You mean I forgot to tell you?

It would be somewhat better if the RTL had support for Curses and X11.

>> >Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As
>> others have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues.  ...
>> >
I hate EBCDIC!

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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gil,

You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap?  I've never heard
that before :-)

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On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:16:50 -0500, Jerry Callen <jcal...@narsil.org>
> wrote:
>
> >[Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]
> >
> >Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As
> others have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues.  ...
> >
> >http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/c/rocket-z-os-open-source-languages-tools
> >https://github.com/zorts/pause_release
> >
> What would be the obstacles to building it in Enhanced ASCII mode?  I know
> there are many; I've never succeed with anything significantly larger than
> "Hello, World" in Enhanced ASCII.
>
> -- gil
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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:16:50 -0500, Jerry Callen <jcal...@narsil.org> wrote:

>[Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]
>
>Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As others 
>have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues.  ...
>
>http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/c/rocket-z-os-open-source-languages-tools
>https://github.com/zorts/pause_release
>
What would be the obstacles to building it in Enhanced ASCII mode?  I know
there are many; I've never succeed with anything significantly larger than
"Hello, World" in Enhanced ASCII.

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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Ed -

to clarify - your clients all have the git remote repo mounted with SMB and
then they use the "Local Protocol" ?

This is fine for some environments, but giving everyone r/w mounts to the
repo file system can be a little dangerous.
(for git connection protocols, see:
https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-The-Protocols  )

Therefore I would think that it would be nice for many to have a git server
port for z/OS that would run with the ssh protocol.

Then again, for many I wouldn't see a huge benefit to having a git server
on z/OS at all.   The server could be anywhere that is vigorously secure
and backed up.


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On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Ed Jaffe <edja...@phoenixsoftware.com>
wrote:

> On 8/10/2016 6:16 AM, Jerry Callen wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile: I use git with z/OS using the "large sledgehammer" approach. I
>> keep my actual git repositories on Windows and use WinSCP to periodically
>> copy the source back and forth between Windows and z/OS.
>>
>
> We maintain our git repositories on z/OS via the SMB server.
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Re: git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 8/10/2016 6:16 AM, Jerry Callen wrote:

Meanwhile: I use git with z/OS using the "large sledgehammer" approach. I keep 
my actual git repositories on Windows and use WinSCP to periodically copy the source back 
and forth between Windows and z/OS.


We maintain our git repositories on z/OS via the SMB server.

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git on z/OS

2016-08-10 Thread Jerry Callen
[Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]

Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As others 
have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues. Nonetheless, we 
hope to have a public beta available by the end of the year; it will be 
announced on Rocket's open source forum at:

http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/c/rocket-z-os-open-source-languages-tools

At least initially (and, I suspect, forever...), it will only support USS 
files, not MVS datasets (that's a whole nother kettle 'o fish...).

Meanwhile: I use git with z/OS using the "large sledgehammer" approach. I keep 
my actual git repositories on Windows and use WinSCP to periodically copy the 
source back and forth between Windows and z/OS. Crude, but functional. Once on 
Windows, I can push/pull github repos. Look here for a repos containing z/OS 
source: 

https://github.com/zorts/pause_release

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