Re: [Ilugc] Interesting thing

2009-01-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Mohan Sundaram wrote:

Got this from /. Custom distro builder from stock SUSE linux. Nice to
see tools that makes tasks easier for noobies.

http://susestudio.com/

Believe Fedora too has one.


Fedora has a few and more than half a dozen custom variants as well.

http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/
http://www.montanalinux.org/fedora-remix-howto-screencast.html

The different variants (known as spins within Fedora) is available at

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

Rahul
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Re: [Ilugc] MRU

2009-01-27 Thread Arun Kumar Khan
On Tuesday 27 Jan 2009, Ajit Natarajan wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a BSNL DSL connection with a UTStar 300R2 modem.

 I have found that I need to reduce the MRU of the connection to 1452
 bytes in order to pop from gmail.com and access certain other secure
 sites. I tried to set up a new VPI/VCI 0/35 connection with the MRU
 of 1452 bytes, but that setting reverts to 1492 on the next power
 cycle.

Google search ethernet mru gave me the following, that might be the 
solution for you, on the first page.

http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/net/0105.0/0015.html

Put the command in rc.local or similar file that is executed at boot up.

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Re: system bootup time (Was Re: [Ilugc] What logs to check for a system crash?)

2009-01-27 Thread Ashok Gautham
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Arun Kumar Khan kn...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On Monday 26 Jan 2009, Sujith wrote:
  Wow, 30 seconds ? My Arch machine boots in about half of that. :)

 Are the above numbers from power ON to [GKX]DM login prompt?

 Both Venkatraman and Sujith, can you please share your hardware setup
 and what did you do to shorten the bootup time.


Well. I run arch too. I am not exaggerating, but my Arch boot time is 9
seconds.
I backgrounded all the daemons. In my /etc/rc.conf (The arch sys conf file)

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng @network @netfs @crond @httpd @alsa @mpd).

It is safer not to background syslog-ng. UDev takes the maximum time (3
seconds).
The rest disappear as soon as they arrive. And @ backgrounds the processes.
I dont use a login manager. I log into screen as soon as I log in.

Also, of all the login managers I have used, slim was the fastest. It added
3-5 seconds
to the startup. Just uncomment the line in /etc/inittab. Some of this
speedgain comes
because Arch Keeps it Simple!

Machine Specs: uname -a
Linux Hell 2.6.28-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 18 20:17:17 UTC 2009 i686
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Motherboard-G33

Flags
flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush
dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs
bts

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[Ilugc] OT Commercial

2009-01-27 Thread Ramabadran Seshadri Iyengar


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Re: [Ilugc] Package Installation in UBUNTU

2009-01-27 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Kannan kanna...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi friends.
 i am directly download the packages using
 apt-get install ... command.
 how can i take the back up of the softwares.

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Re: system bootup time (Was Re: [Ilugc] What logs to check for a system crash?)

2009-01-27 Thread Mehul Ved
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, of all the login managers I have used, slim was the fastest. It added
 3-5 seconds
 to the startup.

Have you tried qingy? and benchmarked it?
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[Ilugc] changing the bootup welcome message in Fedora

2009-01-27 Thread Satish Eerpini
The welcome message which appears on Fedora just before starting udev
can be changed. The standard message is something like Welcome to
Fedora, this can be changed to whatever you like, you will have to
make changes to /etc/rc.sysinit, find the following section in that
file :

# Print a text banner.
echo -en $\t\tWelcome to 
read -r redhat_release  /etc/redhat-release
if [[ $redhat_release =~ Red Hat ]]; then
 [ $BOOTUP = color ]  echo -en \\033[0;31m
 echo -en Red Hat
 [ $BOOTUP = color ]  echo -en \\033[0;39m
 PRODUCT=`sed s/Red Hat \(.*\) release.*/\1/ /etc/redhat-release`
 echo  $PRODUCT
elif [[ $redhat_release =~ Fedora ]]; then
 [ $BOOTUP = color ]  echo -en \\033[0;34m
 echo -en Fedora
 [ $BOOTUP = color ]  echo -en \\033[0;39m
 PRODUCT=`sed s/Fedora \(.*\) \?release.*/\1/ /etc/redhat-release`
 echo  $PRODUCT
else
 PRODUCT=`sed s/ release.*//g /etc/redhat-release`
 echo $PRODUCT
fi
if [ $PROMPT != no ]; then
 echo -en $\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup.
 echo
fi


now comment out the whole section and add an echo statement just below
it to print your own message, something like this :

#printing my own message
echo -en $\n
[ $BOOTUP = color ]  echo -en \\033[0;34m
echo -en $Welcome to Satish's Linux Box
[ $BOOTUP = color ]  echo -en \\033[0;39m

check out  how the change looks here : http://satish.playdrupal.com/?q=node/84
(thats a screenshot while my system was booting on qemu)


Thanks
Satish



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[Ilugc] Hibernate don't shutdown (Was Re: system bootup time)

2009-01-27 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
People have been talking about speeding up boot times.

Here is an alternative strategy to make your desktop/laptop quickly
usable whenever you need it.

 Do not *ever* shutdown unless you are upgrading the kernel or grub.

With suspend-to-disk[*] working on most systems around, there is no
reason to ever shutdown. Even library upgrades can be done by
kill -HUPping or restarting some daemons/processes.

Replace your shutdown command with a hibernate/s2disk/tuxonice. You
can power-down your system after such a procedure.

In my experience hibernate and resume times for a typical desktop are
lower than bootup times.

As long as you do not access your hibernated disk areas, you can even
use a different O/S in the intervening period.

You can also build a tremendous uptime record in spite of Chennai's
power cuts.

Kapil.
[*] Not to be confused with suspend-to-ram which is mostly only for
laptops and even there is perhaps invoked only after some
superstitious invocations.
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[Ilugc] Re: ilugc Digest, Vol 56, Issue 79

2009-01-27 Thread ravi s
Where can i find ilugc blacklist thread ?
i have some better experience with a company , i want no more freelancer to
taste it with that company..

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 Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Interesting thing (Rahul Sundaram)
   2. Re: MRU (Arun Kumar Khan)
   3. Re: system bootup time (Was Re: [Ilugc] What logs to check
  for a system crash?) (Ashok Gautham)
   4. Package Installation in UBUNTU (Kannan)
   5. OT Commercial  (Ramabadran Seshadri Iyengar)
   6. Re: Package Installation in UBUNTU (Srikanth Lakshmanan)
   7. Re: system bootup time (Was Re: [Ilugc] What logs to check
  for a system crash?) (Sujith)
   8. Re: system bootup time (Was Re: [Ilugc] What logs to check
  for a system crash?) (Mehul Ved)
   9. changing the bootup welcome message in Fedora (Satish Eerpini)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:42:47 +0530
 From: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Interesting thing
 To: ILUG-C ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in
 Message-ID: 497ed00f.9010...@fedoraproject.org
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 Mohan Sundaram wrote:
  Got this from /. Custom distro builder from stock SUSE linux. Nice to
  see tools that makes tasks easier for noobies.
 
  http://susestudio.com/
 
  Believe Fedora too has one.

 Fedora has a few and more than half a dozen custom variants as well.

 http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/
 http://www.montanalinux.org/fedora-remix-howto-screencast.html

 The different variants (known as spins within Fedora) is available at

 http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

 Rahul


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 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:44:30 +0530
 From: Arun Kumar Khan kn...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Ilugc] MRU
 To: ILUG-C ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in
 Message-ID: 200901271444.30411.kn...@yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=iso-8859-1

 On Tuesday 27 Jan 2009, Ajit Natarajan wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have a BSNL DSL connection with a UTStar 300R2 modem.
 
  I have found that I need to reduce the MRU of the connection to 1452
  bytes in order to pop from gmail.com and access certain other secure
  sites. I tried to set up a new VPI/VCI 0/35 connection with the MRU
  of 1452 bytes, but that setting reverts to 1492 on the next power
  cycle.

 Google search ethernet mru gave me the following, that might be the
 solution for you, on the first page.

 http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/net/0105.0/0015.html

 Put the command in rc.local or similar file that is executed at boot up.

 --
 Regards,
 Arun Khan



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 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:54:24 +0530
 From: Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: system bootup time (Was Re: [Ilugc] What logs to check
for a   system crash?)
 To: ILUG-C ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in
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 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Arun Kumar Khan kn...@yahoo.com wrote:

  On Monday 26 Jan 2009, Sujith wrote:
   Wow, 30 seconds ? My Arch machine boots in about half of that. :)
 
  Are the above numbers from power ON to [GKX]DM login prompt?
 
  Both Venkatraman and Sujith, can you please share your hardware setup
  and what did you do to shorten the bootup time.


 Well. I run arch too. I am not exaggerating, but my Arch boot time is 9
 seconds.
 I backgrounded all the daemons. In my /etc/rc.conf (The arch sys conf file)

 DAEMONS=(syslog-ng @network @netfs @crond @httpd @alsa @mpd).

 It is safer not to background syslog-ng. UDev takes the maximum time (3
 seconds).
 The rest disappear as soon as they arrive. And @ backgrounds the processes.
 I dont use a login manager. I log into screen as soon as I log in.

 Also, of all the login managers I have used, slim was the fastest. It added
 3-5 seconds
 to the startup. Just uncomment the line in /etc/inittab. Some of this
 speedgain comes
 because Arch Keeps it Simple!

 Machine Specs: uname -a
 Linux Hell 2.6.28-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 18 20:17:17 UTC 2009 i686
 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

 Motherboard-G33

 Flags
 flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
 cmov
 pat pse36 clflush
 dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon
 pebs
 bts

 ---
 Ashok 

Re: [Ilugc] Hibernate don't shutdown (Was Re: system bootup time)

2009-01-27 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
 [*] Not to be confused with suspend-to-ram which is mostly only for
 laptops and even there is perhaps invoked only after some
 superstitious invocations.

JFTR, I have been suspending to RAM (while leaving a laptop connected
to power supply most of the time) with no problems whatsoever, ever
since kernel 2.6.27. It's much, much quicker than suspend to disk,
though it does draw a tiny bit of battery if you don't connect the
power supply.

Kumar
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[Ilugc] Re: system bootup time (Was Re: What logs to check for a system crash?)

2009-01-27 Thread Mohan R
Sujith wrote:

 conky -d

Could you please share your desktop screenshot? like to see your conky
in effort.

Thanks,
Mohan.

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Re: [Ilugc] Hibernate don't shutdown (Was Re: system bootup time)

2009-01-27 Thread Raja Subramanian
Not to mention the added advantage of saving all your application
state as well.  You come back to the same firefox tabs, etc.  Makes it
easier to pick up your workflow where you left off.


+1 for hibernating.

Raja


On 27/01/2009, Kapil Hari Paranjape ka...@imsc.res.in wrote:
 People have been talking about speeding up boot times.

 Here is an alternative strategy to make your desktop/laptop quickly
 usable whenever you need it.

  Do not *ever* shutdown unless you are upgrading the kernel or grub.

 With suspend-to-disk[*] working on most systems around, there is no
 reason to ever shutdown. Even library upgrades can be done by
 kill -HUPping or restarting some daemons/processes.

 Replace your shutdown command with a hibernate/s2disk/tuxonice. You
 can power-down your system after such a procedure.

 In my experience hibernate and resume times for a typical desktop are
 lower than bootup times.

 As long as you do not access your hibernated disk areas, you can even
 use a different O/S in the intervening period.

 You can also build a tremendous uptime record in spite of Chennai's
 power cuts.

 Kapil.
 [*] Not to be confused with suspend-to-ram which is mostly only for
 laptops and even there is perhaps invoked only after some
 superstitious invocations.
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Re: [Ilugc] Hibernate don't shutdown (Was Re: system bootup time)

2009-01-27 Thread Raja Subramanian
Sorry for the top post.


I suspended to RAM my thinkpad for a year - even when I carried it
around in the laptop bag.  After 1 year, the battery life dropped to
just 2009 mins.

I had the same experience on a dell earlier.

I'm currently hibernating andd powering off and there are no problems.

Imo, suspend to RAM is not worth it in the long run.

Raja


On 27/01/2009, Kumar Appaiah a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
 [*] Not to be confused with suspend-to-ram which is mostly only for
 laptops and even there is perhaps invoked only after some
 superstitious invocations.

 JFTR, I have been suspending to RAM (while leaving a laptop connected
 to power supply most of the time) with no problems whatsoever, ever
 since kernel 2.6.27. It's much, much quicker than suspend to disk,
 though it does draw a tiny bit of battery if you don't connect the
 power supply.

 Kumar
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Re: [Ilugc] Hibernate don't shutdown (Was Re: system bootup time)

2009-01-27 Thread Raja Subramanian
Typo sorry.  That was 20 mins, not 2009 mins.

Raja


On 27/01/2009, Raja Subramanian rajasuper...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for the top post.


 I suspended to RAM my thinkpad for a year - even when I carried it
 around in the laptop bag.  After 1 year, the battery life dropped to
 just 2009 mins.

 I had the same experience on a dell earlier.

 I'm currently hibernating andd powering off and there are no problems.

 Imo, suspend to RAM is not worth it in the long run.

 Raja


 On 27/01/2009, Kumar Appaiah a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
 [*] Not to be confused with suspend-to-ram which is mostly only for
 laptops and even there is perhaps invoked only after some
 superstitious invocations.

 JFTR, I have been suspending to RAM (while leaving a laptop connected
 to power supply most of the time) with no problems whatsoever, ever
 since kernel 2.6.27. It's much, much quicker than suspend to disk,
 though it does draw a tiny bit of battery if you don't connect the
 power supply.

 Kumar
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Re: [Ilugc] Hibernate don't shutdown (Was Re: system bootup time)

2009-01-27 Thread Roshan George
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 23:13 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote:
 Sorry for the top post.
 
 
 I suspended to RAM my thinkpad for a year - even when I carried it
 around in the laptop bag.  After 1 year, the battery life dropped to
 just 2009 mins.
 
 I had the same experience on a dell earlier.
 
 I'm currently hibernating andd powering off and there are no problems.
 
 Imo, suspend to RAM is not worth it in the long run.

I don't know if this might be it, but my previous Compaq NX 7300 would
heat up considerably if I suspended it and placed it in a case. I can
certainly understand if that heating caused some loss of capacity.
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Re: [Ilugc] Hibernate don't shutdown (Was Re: system bootup time)

2009-01-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wednesday 28 Jan 2009 12:23:11 pm Venkatraman S wrote:
   Do not *ever* shutdown unless you are upgrading the kernel or grub.

 My Acer Aspire 4520 burns after 20-30mins .
 Atually, its much hotter than than the hottest bollywood actress  i cant
 even keep it on my lap('it' refers to my laptop) :P

my aspire 4720Z doesnt burn at all! And with the sleep key, it is cool as ever 
even with the lid down. 

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[Ilugc] setup a local repository for ubuntu

2009-01-27 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends.

We have 3 ubuntu 8.04 boxes and no internet connection.

But we have the 5 ubuntu repository DVDs got from zyxware.com

We need to setup one box as a local repository so that all ubuntu boxes
should contact the repository box to get the packages.

Could not get a proper link in net.

Have you done like this before?

Could you share the links and tutorials?

Thanks.


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