[ilugd] nfs rpc errors

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam
any pointers on why do i get 'RPC error' when i try to mount a directory
from a remote client, using RH8?

please help.

??
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Re: [ilugd] nfs rpc errors

2003-11-18 Thread Arindam Dey
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 15:25, LinuxLingam wrote:
 any pointers on why do i get 'RPC error' when i try to mount a directory
 from a remote client, using RH8?
 
 please help.
 
 ??
 LL

My 0.02 Rupees

what is the output of service portmap status on the CLIENT pc in your
case RH 7.3 ?

Also what is the output of service nfs status on the server RH 8 ?
Does the above include a line rpc.rquotad (pid ***) is running???

Triple check the firewalls although according to your previous mail you
have already done this on both the client and sever. But still check
them again.

Try nmapping the server from the client and vice versa. Send the output.

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Re: [ilugd] linux-delhi threat

2003-11-18 Thread Puneet
why don't Linux-delhi decide on some theme for meetings. take any theme like
embedded linux or linux in web domain blah blah... and invite ppl to
deliever talk on any topic covering that theme. i am sure lot of ppl will
come out of their shells. atleast ppl with similar interest would like to
know what is there or what more can be done.

regards,
Puneet

- Original Message -
From: vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [ilugd] linux-delhi threat


 HI!
  The meetings seem to lack direction n hence the poor
  attendence. definitely kishor, raj and all the
  senior members can do something to make them an
  interesting affair.
  Well, weel meetings lack directions and r boring only
 if u rely only on the senior ppl to come up with
 agenda. Hey, i atended the meeting this time for the
 first time, and no way it was boring, we all enjoyed
 it, (those who attended raise your hands) and what
 more we decided (tentative)the agenda and place for
 next meeting.
  Look, i belive this group does not belong to senior
 ppl only, we r all part of it nad we have to take
 responsibility and keep on rotating among ourselves,
 then only it will be fun. We have a larger goal of
 popularizing Linux and making most out of our Linu
 boxes that's why most of us joined this group (well if
 someone has other aim rest these two, please tell me).
   So, please ppl turn up at meetings, we have
 rationalised the process of, calling meetings so
 everyone will be informed in advance from next month
 onwards. I am not saying that every memeber should
 turn up in every meet, workers of Linux Delhi Society
 will come every month and rest can show up at least
 once in three months, even with this practice there
 will be good attendance.
  again, meetings can only be interesting affair only
 if we want them to be.

 hoping to see good attendance in next meet

 with regards
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Re: [ilugd] nfs rpc errors

2003-11-18 Thread Rishi Tandon
I presume you would have started portmap service on both the server and the client 
computers. If so,
please execute the rpc.mountd command on the server computer.
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DATE: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:55:30
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any pointers on why do i get 'RPC error' when i try to mount a directory
from a remote client, using RH8?

please help.

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[ilugd] Re: nfs rpc errors

2003-11-18 Thread Jasmeet
have been having some similar problems myself. I stopped all the NFS 
related services (nfs + portmap, etc. ) and then started portmap before 
starting NFS. It seems to work most of the time, and the times it 
didn't, i restarted the boxes (both client and server) and then mounted 
the NFS share again (not using /etc/fstab). I encountered this when i 
was actually playing around with NFS and creating and removing shares 
indiscriminately, stopping and starting services erratically, etc. 
Couldn't find the real reason, i guess NFS is really sensitive to 
restarts and the order of restarts. Would be interested in case you 
can point out something. :)

-js

LinuxLingam wrote:
any pointers on why do i get 'RPC error' when i try to mount a directory
from a remote client, using RH8?
please help.

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[ilugd] Attendees, November Meet

2003-11-18 Thread Raj Mathur
List of people who attended the ILUGD November Meet at Dilli Haat,
2003-11-16:

Alolita Sharma  as (at) technetra (dot) com
Anuj Sharma anuj (dot) sharma (at) hpsglobal (dot) com
Ashish  Mukherjee   ashishm (at) grex (dot) org
Ashwin Baindur  ashwin_baindur (at) yahoo (dot) com
Jasmeet Virdi   jvirdi (at) softhome (dot) net
Kishore  Bhargava   kishore (at) linkaxis (dot) com
Nagadeepan   xyberdip (at) yahoo (dot) com
Nitin Chandra  nitin_chandra1 (at) yahoo (dot) com
Pankaj Kaushal  penguinhead (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Rajesh Kumarrajeshbabu (at) hotmail (dot) com
Raju Mathur raju (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Robert Adkins   radkins (at) technetra (dot) com
Sudev  Barar sudev (at) mantraonline (dot) com
Supreet Sethisupreet (at) softhome (dot) net
Tarun Dua   tarundua (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Vivek Khuranakhuranavivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com
V Vivek  v_vivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com

Thanks to Ashwin Baindur for the list.

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Re: [ilugd] diet-pc, ltsp, netstation, pxes

2003-11-18 Thread supreet
 486 runs but can I call that running with full X interface? Would be
 interested in getting low down of configurations if some one steps
 forward. Got more than few of those machines running as of date on
 Netware /DOS.

Regarding 486 running linux. I worked on 486 from 1996-1998 with
linux/X-windows.

This thing works.

Following Config I used to run:

Intel 486-dx2 66Mhz
8 Mb Ram
Realtek vga card with 256k memory 16 color


With little effort this can still be done


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[ilugd] RedHat Advanced Server 3.0

2003-11-18 Thread Shivkumar Jagannath
hi all,
I was wondering if any one out there has a copy of the
Redhat Advanced Server 3.0 that I can borrow. Im in
Delhi. The Download's a killer!!!

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catch ya later ( i gotta discover the meaning of life :-))
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RE: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet

2003-11-18 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Raj,
Can you plz also send the minutes (briefly describing) what was
discussed in the meeting. This will surely encourage *newbies* like me
to actively take part in the next meet.

Thanks and Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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Subject: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet

List of people who attended the ILUGD November Meet at Dilli Haat,
2003-11-16:

Alolita Sharma  as (at) technetra (dot) com
Anuj Sharma anuj (dot) sharma (at) hpsglobal (dot) com
Ashish  Mukherjee   ashishm (at) grex (dot) org
Ashwin Baindur  ashwin_baindur (at) yahoo (dot) com
Jasmeet Virdi   jvirdi (at) softhome (dot) net
Kishore  Bhargava   kishore (at) linkaxis (dot) com
Nagadeepan   xyberdip (at) yahoo (dot) com
Nitin Chandra  nitin_chandra1 (at) yahoo (dot) com
Pankaj Kaushal  penguinhead (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Rajesh Kumarrajeshbabu (at) hotmail (dot) com
Raju Mathur raju (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Robert Adkins   radkins (at) technetra (dot) com
Sudev  Barar sudev (at) mantraonline (dot) com
Supreet Sethisupreet (at) softhome (dot) net
Tarun Dua   tarundua (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Vivek Khuranakhuranavivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com
V Vivek  v_vivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com

Thanks to Ashwin Baindur for the list.

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[ilugd] Re: [LIG] google versus msn search on linux

2003-11-18 Thread S Woodside
Facscinating -- if you go to the second page on MSN, suddently the  
number jumps from about 16 to somewhere in the order of 8.4 million  
hits.

simon

On Monday, November 17, 2003, at 05:02  PM, LinuxLingam wrote:

[0]Harry Fletcher writes in [1] The Inquirer about an
obvious discrepancy between searches for linux windows on
[2]Google
and [3]MSN; the former comes up with [4]almost 9 million hits, but
the
latter only comes up with -- wait for it -- [5]16. The author then
speculates on Microsoft's ulterior motives for their attempted (and
failed) purchase of Google.
Links
0. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12603
1. http://www.theinquirer.net/
2. http://www.google.com/
3. http://search.msn.com/
4. http://www.google.com/search?num=50q=linux+windows
5. http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=linux+windowsFORM=SMCRT


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RE: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet

2003-11-18 Thread vivek khurana
Hi!

 Hi Raj,
 Can you plz also send the minutes (briefly
 describing) what was
 discussed in the meeting. This will surely encourage
 *newbies* like me
 to actively take part in the next meet.

 Hey, raj  kishore why don't u ppl upload pictures of
the meetings, this will also encourage newbies to
attend meets. If you have time, then please upload
them in chronological order showing how group
increased from 5 to all the attendies and show them
how we had fun while eating momoms, pav bhaji and
sabudana vada and coffee.

with regards
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RE: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet

2003-11-18 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi Gurpreet,

 Gurpreet == Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Gurpreet Hi Raj, Can you plz also send the minutes (briefly
Gurpreet describing) what was discussed in the meeting. This will
Gurpreet surely encourage *newbies* like me to actively take part
Gurpreet in the next meet.

Ashwin has posted the minutes twice to the list but they haven't
reached for some reason.  Now he's mailing them to me, I'll forward
them as soon as I get them.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Re: nfs rpc errors

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam
  
 Couldn't find the real reason, i guess NFS is really sensitive to 
 restarts and the order of restarts. Would be interested in case you 
 can point out something. :)
 
 -js
 

yes js, i already checked this feature. nfs is sensitive, it needs to
have portmap set things up *before* it gets executed. so it is always a
good idea to stop and start nfs *after* you set up your configurations,
and ensure portmap is up and running fine.

:-)
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Re: [ilugd] diet-pc, ltsp, netstation, pxes

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 20:20, supreet wrote:

 
 Regarding 486 running linux. I worked on 486 from 1996-1998 with
 linux/X-windows.
 
 This thing works.
 
 Following Config I used to run:
 
 Intel 486-dx2 66Mhz
 8 Mb Ram
 Realtek vga card with 256k memory 16 color
 
 
 With little effort this can still be done


so the question is, if such a 486 pc, or a pentium I, is connected via
ltsp to an amd athlonxp with redhat8 or 9, with a graphics card that
supports 800x600 24-bit, would it still be able to handle gnome or
kde...? and running openoffice? all streaming in from the amd athlonxp
server?

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RE: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 21:34, vivek khurana wrote:
 Hi!
[snip]
  Hey, raj  kishore why don't u ppl upload pictures of
 the meetings, [snip] showing how group
 increased from 5 to all the attendies and show them
 how we had fun while eating momoms, pav bhaji and
 sabudana vada and coffee.


yum!
i love maharasthran cuisine.
[thonk! thonk!]
why didn't i attend the linux-delhi meet?

okay, what's the cuisine for the next meet?
kishore and i need to know urgently.
[g,dr]

:-)
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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] google versus msn search on linux

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 21:39, vivek khurana wrote:

 
  whts more try clicking
 http://tech.msn.com/software/OS/Linux displayed as one
 of search results. It shows error 404 saying the page
 no longer exists
 
 bye
 vivek

so what are those four stages:
anger
denial
resignation
acceptance

m$ seems to be at stage 2, drifting towards stage 3.

kinda reminds me of the days when apple started feeling the heat from
dos and then again from windows.

nothing new in the IT industry.

wonder who/what will make gnuLinux feel the heat this decade/century

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[ilugd] 1million linux pc order

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam
Scott McNealy announced today at Comdex that [0]Sun
Microsystems has made a deal with China for a million desktop Linux
deployments under the new $50/seat licensing plan for Sun's desktop
software, which includes its Star Office 7.0 productivity program.
Whether this will translate into renewed profits for Sun remains to
be
seen, but according to McNealy, it represents 'the No. 1 Linux
desktop
play on the planet'. 
Links
0. http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/7285339.htm


***
one million pcs!! when will the indian govt wake up to this splendid
idea. that's RS 2,400 per seat including staroffice, versus about Rs
16,000 to Rs 20,000 per seat in M$.
that's US$50million = Rs 240 crores for the entire deal.

super wow.

:-)
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[ilugd] matrix spoof by microsoft

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam


har! har! this is incredulous. billgates launches tablet pc talks of
security and spam prevention, and shows a film spoofed on matrix, with
steve ballmer as morpheus and billg as neo.

http://www.tabletpctalk.com/pictures/comdex2003billg2.shtml
check out the screenshots above.

i get a sneaking suspicion they got inspired by the document '7 steps to
software samadhi' which is available at www.linux-delhi.org in the
downloads area, but decided to switch the pills around.

quote from the '7 steps to software samadhi' document:

'Take the Blue Screen of Death, you wake up in your cubicle and stare at
the crash of you Windows machine on your desk. Take the Red Pill of
Redhat, and i show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.


:-)
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[ilugd] Rekall, unlike M$ Access, muft and mukt

2003-11-18 Thread LinuxLingam
[0]Rekall is one of those killer apps alongside
[1]Scribus, Evolution, OpenOffice and Mozilla that could make all
the
difference for Linux desktop productivity. For those of you not in
the
know, Rekall is a RAD DBMS similar to MS Access or Paradox and
[2]has
now been GPL'ed by [3]theKompany. Community development and
organization is to take place on [4]rekallrevealed.org. 
Links
0. http://www.thekompany.com/products/rekall/
1. http://www.scribus.org.uk/
2. http://www.thekompany.com/press_media/full.php3?Id=242
3. http://www.thekompany.com/
4. http://www.rekallrevealed.org/


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Re: [ilugd] matrix spoof by microsoft

2003-11-18 Thread Raj Shekhar
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 00:32, LinuxLingam wrote:
 har! har! this is incredulous. billgates launches tablet pc talks of
 security and spam prevention, and shows a film spoofed on matrix, with
 steve ballmer as morpheus and billg as neo.


Thank your stars that they did not spoof a Salman or Dharemendara movie.
Imagine Bill and Ballmer fighting bare chested, pot bellied and sweaty.
Whew, sometimes I frighten myself.

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[ilugd] Red Hat offers new security course

2003-11-18 Thread Raj Shekhar
[from  http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/1118redhato.html]


Red Hat Tuesday said it is offering a new training course, designed to
improve the security skills of users. 

The course, called RH423 Red Hat Enterprise Directory Services and
Authentication, will cover directory services, authentication and
security configuration for companies running Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3
(RHEL 3), Red Hat said. 


The course will be part of the Red Hat Security Curriculum, within the
Red Hat Certified Engineer program. It will teach advanced methods for
configuring Lightweight Directory Access Protocol and Kerberos (a secure
method for authenticating a request for a service in a computer network)
on RHEL 3 servers. 

For 18 months, we have been working on a portfolio of courses to give
more advanced and specific training for people in an enterprise
situation, Jasmine Huxtable-Wright, Red Hat training manager for
Europe, Middle East and Africa, said Tuesday. 

The first of these was an enterprise deployment and systems management
course, and this is complementary. It gives security-specific
information required by anyone administering a Linux system in an
enterprise, she said. 

These are high-end courses, suitable for skilled Linux professionals and
not for someone new to Linux, Huxtable-Wright stressed.

By the end of the course, trainees will be able to achieve single
schema authentication, a configuration that centralizes authentication
and control of access to applications and data throughout the company,
Red Hat said. 

The course will run every six weeks, with 10 people per class, at a cost
of $2,598, Huxtable-Wright said. Classes will be held in Red Hat's
training centers on the East and West coasts of the U.S., and in the
U.K., France, Germany and Italy, she said. 

Red Hat launched RHEL 3 in October.



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Re: [ilugd] matrix spoof by microsoft

2003-11-18 Thread Arindam Dey
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 03:02, LinuxLingam wrote:
 har! har! this is incredulous. billgates launches tablet pc talks of
 security and spam prevention, and shows a film spoofed on matrix, with
 steve ballmer as morpheus and billg as neo.
 
 http://www.tabletpctalk.com/pictures/comdex2003billg2.shtml
 check out the screenshots above.

By any chance is there any link to the actual mpeg or quicktime etc. I
would love to keep this one for good.

Oh and another thing I think you got it the other way round BillG is
Morpheus and SB is Neo. :-)

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Re: [ilugd] diet-pc, ltsp, netstation, pxes

2003-11-18 Thread Sudev Barar
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:53, LinuxLingam wrote: 
 so the question is, if such a 486 pc, or a pentium I, is connected via
 ltsp to an amd athlonxp with redhat8 or 9, with a graphics card that
 supports 800x600 24-bit, would it still be able to handle gnome or
 kde...? and running openoffice? all streaming in from the amd athlonxp
 server?

All machines that are on my network (rather two networks) run full X
with KDE and OpenOffice /Evolution / Mozilla. And in 1024x768 resolution
at 16bit resolution as the cards are old ones. Sis cards are a problem
but CirrusLogic / S3 cards are fine.
My servers are Piv but athlon's have been reported to work equally good.
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[ilugd] Upcoming Event - ILUGD Meet

2003-11-18 Thread raju
Dear All,

India Linux Users Group - Delhi, is proud to announce the upcoming event - ILUGD Meet. 
Please visit the ILUG-D web site and RSVP online if you plan on attending it.

Here are the complete details:

What: ILUGD Meet
When: Sun, Nov 16 2003, 2pm
Where: Dilli Haat
Directions: 
Program: General discussions.
Eating.
Contact: Raju Mathur

You can contact Raju Mathur at 26161387(H) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further details. 
Also, you could visit the ILUG-D web site http://www.linux-delhi.org/ for more 
information.

Regards,
Raju Mathur

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[ilugd] Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues

2003-11-18 Thread Ashwin Baindur
The minutes of the meet. I've sent them thrice - it seems to /dev/null! Help 
me put them up on the list. Regards, Ashwin

Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues

New Delhi is under  threat ! The latest outrage was committed by a group of 
Linux buffs in Dilli Haat on citizens enjoying a tranquil Sunday afternoon 
in the salubrious surrounds of Dilli Haat. The ILUGDites, as they call 
themselves, demolished every plate of Momos and  Pav Bhaji and drank every 
cup of Coffee they came across - leaving an aghast citizenry open-jawed and 
hungry.

We spoke to Mr Khidki, from the MegaHard corporation who bitterly reproached 
the incident  ,We shall not allow these cyber terrorists from preventing 
peaceful companies from carrying out legitimate profitable business. They 
hound us everywhere with their viral licences. Now they trouble us in Dilli 
Haat also during our few authorised moments of peace .

The Thana i/c Dilli Haat Goon Squad stated that the following were 
identified at the scene by witnesses :-
Self-styled Generallisimo Raju Mathur - wielding threats of an unknown 
Weapon of Mass Destruction - codenamed GnuPG.
Supython Sethi - Hi.
Penguinhead Kaushal - The arch enemu of Windowsman.
Kishore 'Moneybags' Bhargava - the fiendish financer.
Tarun 'The Evil Secretary Bird' Dua
Jazzmeet UnWorthy
Xyberdip(aka Nagadeepan)
Ashish 'The Cyber Kid' Mukherjee
Vivek 'Logo Loony' Khurana
Anuj Sharma alias The Man from HCLPEROT
Sudev 'Still Threatening to Learn Linux!' Barar
Wee Wee Wiwek
Chief Big Pony Tail Chandra - How!
A Lolita named Sharma from the Great Beyond with sidekick Bob 'Who needs 
Mike?' Adkins
Rajesh Kumar (a very sinister and secretive character indeed - even the FBI 
worries about such people with perfectly normal names).
and of course Ashwin Baindur - the Fastest Mouth in the West of India

Well, there they all were. Had the Thought Police but known - they could 
have rounded them all up - except for one archenemy who stayed away from the 
Matrix - Linux Lingam.

The conspiracy began at a shady corner of the Dilli Haat auditorium - after 
Raju scared mooning couples away with a red pill! The gang true to form 
turned up in ones and twos to avoid detection. The early birds got sprained 
necks from watching out for beautiful birds - who could well have been 
planted by the cops to spy on the meet. Thoroughly disappointed at not 
finding this to be the case, they then sprained the other side of their 
necks trying to decide which of the Dilbert characters heading doggedly for 
the fence at the very end of Dilli Haat could possibly be the Highly 
Intelligent ILUGDites coming for the meet.

The first agenda item of the meeting was the forming of the Secret Terrorist 
Society. The President Designate Raju Mathur and Treasurer Designate Kishore 
asked for a Secretary Designate. The two contenders - Tarun and Vivek (not 
Wiwek) slugged it out till Tarun got his arm-twisted by the hoi polloi into 
accepting the job for a complete 12 months. He is to be aided, despite his 
wishes, by Vivek. To sidetrack Vivek from the glory that will be his as 
Founding Secretary, Vivek has been tasked with a miracle - to get three 
viable logos for the Holy Grail project of ILUGD - The Sacred Penguin Toga 
sometimes called a T-shirt. That should keep him busy, hee hee hee!

The second agenda point was who was to be given the plum post of being the 
convenor of the next meet. There being a very large number of aspirants, 
Ashwin clinched the deal by offering free beer to the Selection Committee. 
Jagmohan Dalmiya, watchout! So the next meet will be at Ashwin's. Since 
Fauji's can't count beyond five, the meet is going to be basically Gnubie 
oriented because they are about the only people Ashwin can impress with his 
NO-ledge of Linux. Anyway if there's beer - sab kuch chalta hai.

The third point that Raju had to make is that such 'do perl or die' issues 
can only be concluded when the pact is signed in blood! So he expects all 
the ILUGDites to donate blood for his favorite vampire - the Red Cross near 
Parliament next Sunday. More from him online later.

The meeting then decided on the nefarious activities to be undertaken.The 
first is for ILUGDites  to strike at Linux Bangalore. After that organised 
mayhem at the LINUX Meet in Delhi next February. Ambition! Ambition!

It was after this point that things got out of hand. The people at the 
Honest and Fresh Coffee stand were threatened into turning over a large part 
of their premises for the orgy of momos and pav-bhaji that ensued - things 
began to get quite hot. The stand-owners were finally bribed into silence by 
ordering gallons of coffee. The last point to decide before leaving was to 
decide that the next meet will be a real 'bash'.

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[ilugd] Upcoming Event - ILUG-Delhi November Blood Donation Event

2003-11-18 Thread raju
Dear All,

India Linux Users Group - Delhi, is proud to announce the upcoming event - ILUG-Delhi 
November Blood Donation Event. Please visit the ILUG-D web site and RSVP online if you 
plan on attending it.

Here are the complete details:

What: ILUG-Delhi November Blood Donation Event
When: Sunday, November 23, 2pm
Where: Indian Red Cross Society, Red Cross Road, New Delhi 110001.  Next to Parliament 
House./Near Sansad Marg
Directions: Next to Parliament House.
Near Sansad Marg
Program: Donate blood.  It's for a good cause!
Debouch to Ashwin's residence for snakes and...
Contact: Raju Mathur

You can contact Raju Mathur at 26161387(H) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further details. 
Also, you could visit the ILUG-D web site http://www.linux-delhi.org/ for more 
information.

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] Upcoming Event - ILUGD Meet

2003-11-18 Thread Sudev Barar
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 09:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear All,
 India Linux Users Group - Delhi, is proud to announce the upcoming event - ILUGD 
 Meet. Please visit the ILUG-D web site and RSVP online if you plan on attending it.
 Here are the complete details:
 What: ILUGD Meet
 When: Sun, Nov 16 2003, 2pm
 Where: Dilli Haat
 Directions: 
 Program: General discussions.
 Eating.
 Contact: Raju Mathur

 You can contact Raju Mathur at 26161387(H) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further details. 
 Also, you could visit the ILUG-D web site http://www.linux-delhi.org/ for more 
 information.
 Regards,
 Raju Mathur

No wonder I was in dark about the meet!! Why I would get this post on
19th?? Raj did you forgot to post or what? Any one who can decipher the
full headers below?

-- 
Sudev Barar

Learning Linux

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Re: [ilugd] diet-pc, ltsp, netstation, pxes

2003-11-18 Thread Narsingh Sahu
 --- LinuxLingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On
Tue, 2003-11-18 at 20:20, supreet wrote:
 
  
  Regarding 486 running linux. I worked on 486 from
 1996-1998 with
  linux/X-windows.
  
  This thing works.
  
  Following Config I used to run:
  
  Intel 486-dx2 66Mhz
  8 Mb Ram
  Realtek vga card with 256k memory 16 color
  
  
  With little effort this can still be done
 
 
 so the question is, if such a 486 pc, or a pentium
 I, is connected via
 ltsp to an amd athlonxp with redhat8 or 9, with a
 graphics card that
 supports 800x600 24-bit, would it still be able to
 handle gnome or
 kde...? and running openoffice? all streaming in
 from the amd athlonxp
 server?

When you are thinking of thin client or LTSP kind of
network solution, I would not go for Gnome/KDE at the
client end. Both are heavy and you don't want to run
all the kind of software which come with these two
desktop environment, do you? Yes you need a good
graphics card capable of 24bit resolution and may be
3D graphics, because you may be intending the clients
to access graphics related software. The main idea is
to utilise older PCs( 486, P-I) to work efficiently.
You serve software like OpenOffice from a central
server. My advice is that you stick to a less heavy
Window manager like IceWM, Window Maker, or XFCE4(it
is much improved). OpenOffice 1.1 is much faster than
the earlier versions. In a LTSP environment, the
subsequent loading of OpenOffice at the client end,
after some user has already done it, will be really
fast( one second or thereabout). And yes, such a
solution is thoroughly workable. In fact, I was trying
to convince my people its efficacy ( I am in
Government), but somehow, saving money by utilizing
obsolescent hardware has not been a priority in Govt.
offices.

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Re: [ilugd] Upcoming Event - ILUGD Meet

2003-11-18 Thread Raj Mathur
 Sudev == Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sudev On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 09:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear All, India Linux Users Group - Delhi, is proud to announce
 the upcoming event - ILUGD Meet. Please visit the ILUG-D web
 [snip]

Sudev No wonder I was in dark about the meet!! Why I would get
Sudev this post on 19th?? Raj did you forgot to post or what? Any
Sudev one who can decipher the full headers below?

Nono, I created the event today (this morning) as a Recent Event.
However it has somehow managed to morph into an Upcoming Event.  Sorry
about that.

To reiterate: The next ILUGD Meet is *NOT* on November 16, 2003 at
Dilli Haat :)

Also tried to upload some of the pics, but they got lost somewhere in
the great /dev/null.  Will try again soon.

Regards,

-- Raju
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[ilugd] cd's requeired

2003-11-18 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! Everyone

 I need these two cds, i amm ready to pay for them:-

 1. Knoppix
 2.dyne-bolic

 If any one near pitampura have them kindly rent them
to me, if anyone far from pitampura has them please
burn them for me. I will collect them as per your
comfort.

bye
vivek

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[ilugd] (fwd) Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues

2003-11-18 Thread Raj Mathur
[Forwarded since Ashwin's posts don't seem to make it to the list...]

This is an RFC 1153 digest.
(1 message)
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Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Ashwin Baindur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:52:25 +0530

[snip]

Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues

New Delhi is under  threat ! The latest outrage was committed by a group of 
Linux buffs in Dilli Haat on citizens enjoying a tranquil Sunday afternoon 
in the salubrious surrounds of Dilli Haat. The ILUGDites, as they call 
themselves, demolished every plate of Momos and  Pav Bhaji and drank every 
cup of Coffee they came across - leaving an aghast citizenry open-jawed and 
hungry.

We spoke to Mr Khidki, from the MegaHard corporation who bitterly reproached 
the incident  ,We shall not allow these cyber terrorists from preventing 
peaceful companies from carrying out legitimate profitable business. They 
hound us everywhere with their viral licences. Now they trouble us in Dilli 
Haat also during our few authorised moments of peace .

The Thana i/c Dilli Haat Goon Squad stated that the following were 
identified at the scene by witnesses :-
Self-styled Generallisimo Raju Mathur - wielding threats of an unknown 
Weapon of Mass Destruction - codenamed GnuPG.
Supython Sethi - Hi.
Penguinhead Kaushal - The arch enemu of Windowsman.
Kishore 'Moneybags' Bhargava - the fiendish financer.
Tarun 'The Evil Secretary Bird' Dua
Jazzmeet UnWorthy
Xyberdip(aka Nagadeepan)
Ashish 'The Cyber Kid' Mukherjee
Vivek 'Logo Loony' Khurana
Anuj Sharma alias The Man from HCLPEROT
Sudev 'Still Threatening to Learn Linux!' Barar
Wee Wee Wiwek
Chief Big Pony Tail Chandra - How!
A Lolita named Sharma from the Great Beyond with sidekick Bob 'Who needs 
Mike?' Adkins
Rajesh Kumar (a very sinister and secretive character indeed - even the FBI 
worries about such people with perfectly normal names).
and of course Ashwin Baindur - the Fastest Mouth in the West of India

Well, there they all were. Had the Thought Police but known - they could 
have rounded them all up - except for one archenemy who stayed away from the 
Matrix - Linux Lingam.

The conspiracy began at a shady corner of the Dilli Haat auditorium - after 
Raju scared mooning couples away with a red pill! The gang true to form 
turned up in ones and twos to avoid detection. The early birds got sprained 
necks from watching out for beautiful birds - who could well have been 
planted by the cops to spy on the meet. Thoroughly disappointed at not 
finding this to be the case, they then sprained the other side of their 
necks trying to decide which of the Dilbert characters heading doggedly for 
the fence at the very end of Dilli Haat could possibly be the Highly 
Intelligent ILUGDites coming for the meet.

The first agenda item of the meeting was the forming of the Secret Terrorist 
Society. The President Designate Raju Mathur and Treasurer Designate Kishore 
asked for a Secretary Designate. The two contenders - Tarun and Vivek (not 
Wiwek) slugged it out till Tarun got his arm-twisted by the hoi polloi into 
accepting the job for a complete 12 months. He is to be aided, despite his 
wishes, by Vivek. To sidetrack Vivek from the glory that will be his as 
Founding Secretary, Vivek has been tasked with a miracle - to get three 
viable logos for the Holy Grail project of ILUGD - The Sacred Penguin Toga 
sometimes called a T-shirt. That should keep him busy, hee hee hee!

The second agenda point was who was to be given the plum post of being the 
convenor of the next meet. There being a very large number of aspirants, 
Ashwin clinched the deal by offering free beer to the Selection Committee. 
Jagmohan Dalmiya, watchout! So the next meet will be at Ashwin's. Since 
Fauji's can't count beyond five, the meet is going to be basically Gnubie 
oriented because they are about the only people Ashwin can impress with his 
NO-ledge of Linux. Anyway if there's beer - sab kuch chalta hai.

The third point that Raju had to make is that such 'do perl or die' issues 
can only be concluded when the pact is signed in blood! So he expects all 
the ILUGDites to donate blood for his favorite vampire - the Red Cross near 
Parliament next Sunday. More from him online later.

The meeting then decided on the nefarious activities to be undertaken.The 
first is for ILUGDites  to strike at Linux Bangalore. After that organised 
mayhem at the LINUX Meet in Delhi next February. Ambition! Ambition!

It was after this point that things got out of hand. The people at the 
Honest and Fresh Coffee stand were threatened into turning over a large part 
of their premises for the orgy of momos and pav-bhaji that ensued - things 
began to get quite hot. The stand-owners were finally bribed into silence by 
ordering gallons of coffee. The last point to decide before leaving was to 

Re: [ilugd] diet-pc, ltsp, netstation, pxes

2003-11-18 Thread Sudev Barar
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 10:48, Narsingh Sahu wrote:
 When you are thinking of thin client or LTSP kind of
 network solution, I would not go for Gnome/KDE at the
 client end. Both are heavy and you don't want to run
 all the kind of software which come with these two
 desktop environment, do you? Yes you need a good
In fact I was also under this impression but in actuality it turned out
that using IceWM or KDE made only slight difference in memory used but
hardly noticeable slowdown. IAC for such server a beefy memory (about
128MB per client is good idea)

 graphics card capable of 24bit resolution and may be
 3D graphics, because you may be intending the clients
 to access graphics related software. The main idea is
 to utilise older PCs( 486, P-I) to work efficiently.
Old PC's and good graphic cards is sort of contradiction as most the 486
came with ISA bus ( some did with PCI bus ) However since graphics are
to be processed at the server and served to client display this means
traffic on network. Again was quite surprised to note that in my work
situation there is very little network traffic using LTSP as files are
served by the same server and only end display travels on network.

 You serve software like OpenOffice from a central
 server. My advice is that you stick to a less heavy
 Window manager like IceWM, Window Maker, or XFCE4(it
 is much improved). OpenOffice 1.1 is much faster than
 the earlier versions. In a LTSP environment, the
 subsequent loading of OpenOffice at the client end,
 after some user has already done it, will be really
 fast( one second or thereabout). And yes, such a
Quite agree on the last about fast opens.

However all said I am still not convinced that 486 with low mem is good
idea for running a X (IceWM etc.) desk as the lag time in updating of
display tells.

I have run one 386 machine also but just for curiosity. If you want to
see demo...come over.
-- 
Sudev Barar

Learning Linux


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