Re: [ilugd] Debian Wheezy coming on 05.05.2013
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Debian will not need Ubuntu to survive but Ubuntu will always need Debian. +1 Hear ye ye. -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Debian Wheezy coming on 05.05.2013
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Rohan Garg rohang...@ubuntu.com wrote: I strongly disagree with the statement that Ubuntu is merely `a Canonical thing now`. There are various flavors of Ubuntu like Kubuntu Can *buntu carry on if Canonical were to pull the plug and close shop today? -- Arun Khan Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device (অরুণ খান্/अरुण खान) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Off-topic: Bitcoin's Potential for Social Change
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Supreet Sethi supreet.se...@gmail.comwrote: Bitcoin is evil. Comparison to FOSS movement is ill thought out. Although there is political channelling of thought which is common between the two, the actual implementation is bitcoin is marred by several questions. To start with: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? I know RMS and Linus, I can talk to them (although they may not want to talk to me, which is besides the point). So Bitcoin is designed by entity with unknown affiliation (this is critical although it may not look at outset) The bitcoin protocol and clients are free and open, so how does it matter who initially invented them? Secondly: When bitcoin infrastructure was started Satoshi or some (one/people) pretending to be Satoshi, he started mining coins himself. At the time, the yield was much better than it is now. Which means Satoshi may have millions of coins which leads to asymmetry of money. This is a valid concern, however I don't think of it as that big of a problem. Early adopters need to get rewarded, otherwise a new and disruptive currency will never gain traction. Thirdly: Most transactions in bitcoin are connected to Mt. Gox someway or the other. Which is about 90% of transactions or more. For a transaction to be truly decentralized transactions should be routed through multiple gateways. Somehow none other exists. It would like you can develop code in opensource but it can only be hosted at github. The reliance on MtGox is only a temporary concern, as new Exchanges are bound to come up. If you don't like MtGox, don't use it. You definitely don't need to use it unless you plan to day trade. There are several critical issues with bitcoin which hopefully other online currencies will address. What other currencies do you think are more promising? -- Anupam ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Debian Wheezy coming on 05.05.2013
Can *buntu carry on if Canonical were to pull the plug and close shop today? possible but unlikely. Most probably people will switch to other distro like Mint. -- http://www.twitter.com/vivpuri | http://www.machint.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Off-topic: Bitcoin's Potential for Social Change
Hi Replying now since the thread has been revived. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Supreet Sethi supreet.se...@gmail.comwrote: Secondly: When bitcoin infrastructure was started Satoshi or some (one/people) pretending to be Satoshi, he started mining coins himself. At the time, the yield was much better than it is now. Which means Satoshi may have millions of coins which leads to asymmetry of money. Satoshi could not have been secretly mining before making the bitcoin client public, because the protocol/network is such that you can't secretly mine them. The first bitcoins were generated 7 days before the client was made public; at which point anyone could mine bitcoins. Thirdly: Most transactions in bitcoin are connected to Mt. Gox someway or the other. Which is about 90% of transactions or more. For a transaction to be truly decentralized transactions should be routed through multiple gateways. Somehow none other exists. It would like you can develop code in opensource but it can only be hosted at github. Afaik, MtGox is just a exchange, it doesn't have anything to do with transactions or mining bitcoins unless you need to convert bitcoins to/from other currency. -- Regards Tavish Naruka ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Off-topic: Bitcoin's Potential for Social Change
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Supreet Sethi supreet.se...@gmail.comwrote: Bitcoin is evil. Comparison to FOSS movement is ill thought out. Although there is political channelling of thought which is common between the two, the actual implementation is bitcoin is marred by several questions. To start with: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? I know RMS and Linus, I can talk to them (although they may not want to talk to me, which is besides the point). So Bitcoin is designed by entity with unknown affiliation (this is critical although it may not look at outset) The bitcoin protocol and clients are free and open, so how does it matter who initially invented them? Secondly: When bitcoin infrastructure was started Satoshi or some (one/people) pretending to be Satoshi, he started mining coins himself. At the time, the yield was much better than it is now. Which means Satoshi may have millions of coins which leads to asymmetry of money. This is a valid concern, however I don't think of it as that big of a problem. Early adopters need to get rewarded, otherwise a new and disruptive currency will never gain traction. Early adopters should be rewarded, no doubt but not at the level of creating asymmetry in the economy. Traditionally during issuance of currency government should incur net loss by holding some amount of gold equivalent. Not any more. Additionally more than even how much bitcoins Satoshi holds, Who is Satoshi? Thirdly: Most transactions in bitcoin are connected to Mt. Gox someway or the other. Which is about 90% of transactions or more. For a transaction to be truly decentralized transactions should be routed through multiple gateways. Somehow none other exists. It would like you can develop code in opensource but it can only be hosted at github. The reliance on MtGox is only a temporary concern, as new Exchanges are bound to come up. If you don't like MtGox, don't use it. You definitely don't need to use it unless you plan to day trade. There was a bloom of exchanges which disappeared. In fact, if you search enough, you will find code written by people doing arbitration between two exchanges. Not anymore. There are several critical issues with bitcoin which hopefully other online currencies will address. What other currencies do you think are more promising? -- Anupam -- Supreet Sethi Ph IN: +919811143517 Ph Skype: d_j_i_n_n Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/supreet.sethi Twt: http://twitter.com/djinn ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
