Re: [ilugd] Shocking and Sad news.
समझ में नही आ रहा है क्या लिखूँ । मुझे बहुत दुःख है, पहले KG , और अब Raj. दो दिन पहले राज ilugd पर ही थे । यकिन नहीं आता की नियती के आगे हम सब विफल है । भगवान उनकी आत्मा को शांति दे । -- ┌─┐ │ नरेन्द्र सिसोदिया │ स्वदेशी प्रचारक, नई दिल्ली │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu training
Hello All, Shikshantar School is trying to adopt FOSS solutions. They want Ubuntu training solutions for Staff. You may help them by * Providing training to Ubuntu * Refer them to some suitable low cost training company/person. Contact Charu @ phone or Email Id. -- Forwarded message -- From: Charu Malik charu.ma...@shikshantarschool.org Date: 2012/11/20 Subject: Ubuntu training To: naren...@narendrasisodiya.com ** Hi Narendra, As discussed we need to have a training on basic ubuntu (equivalent to MS office) for our Admin teachers staff. Kindly provide the charges the contact of the people who can help us with it. Regards ***Charu Malik Setia | Administrative Supervisor - Senior School* ***shikshantar – a unitech school for learning *J block | South City One | Gurgaon | haryana 122001 | India T : +91 124 4889100 | F : +91 124 4889196 * W*eb: *www.shikshantarschool.com*http://www.shikshantarschool.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Need Speaker] CIET organizing a training program on graphic software from 16-01-2011 to 20-01-2011. - 5 Days
Please contact me If you want to be speaker for this workshop. I am unable during this time ! Workshop will be attended by Drawing and Paining Teachers from Delhi -- Forwarded message -- From: Rajesh Nimesh Date: Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:45 PM Subject: CIET organizing a training program on graphic software from 16-01-2011 to 20-01-2011. To: naren...@narendrasisodiya.com It is to inform you that CIET going to organizing a training program on graphic software (GIMP, ) for five days from 16-01-2011 to 20-01-2011. (5 Days) Therefore you are requested to attend the program as a resource person for the same. The honorarium will be given @ Rs.1000/- per day and conveyance as per NCERT norms. Timing : 10.00 am to 5,00 pm and lunch timing 1.30 to 2.00 pm. (lunch will be provided) Nimesh R.K. Asst. Professor -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Fwd: हिन्दी LUG में शामिल हों
-- Forwarded message -- From: ePandit | ई-पण्डित sharma.shr...@gmail.com Date: 2011/10/19 Subject: हिन्दी LUG में शामिल हों To: Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com नमस्कार नरेन्द्र जी, आपने पहले एक बार सुझाव दिया था कि लिनक्स से सम्बन्धित चर्चा हेतु एक अलग हिन्दी समूह होना चाहिये। इसी उद्देश्य से यह हिन्दी समूह शुरु किया गाय है। कृपया इसमें शामिल हों। आप लिनक्स के मामले में अनुभवी हैं, आपके अनुभव से नये सदस्यों को लाभ मिलेगा। http://groups.google.com/group/LUG-Hindi/ -- *Shrish Benjwal Sharma* *(श्रीश बेंजवाल शर्मा http://hindi.shrish.in)* ~~~ *If u can't beat them, join them.* ePandit http://epandit.shrish.in/:* *http://epandit.shrish.in/ -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [OT][Video] How to Create Slide-Castings
How to Create Slidecastings ? - http://code.narendrasisodiya.com/slidecast/Tutorial-SlideCasting.ogv So next time When we create organise workshop we can use this tool. This is under development so expect lots of bugs. Related Blog : http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2011/08/some-new-eduvid-demos.html Slidecasting Recorder - http://code.google.com/p/slidecasting-recorder/ -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:14629] [OT][Video] How to Create Slide-Castings
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: How to Create Slidecastings ? - http://code.narendrasisodiya.com/slidecast/Tutorial-SlideCasting.ogv Alternate Link - http://vimeo.com/28195655 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] FOSS Consultancy as a job option in India
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Abhishek Choudhary hi_ped...@yahoo.comwrote: Better still if you can share your own story. For larger good I will write a report on my findings (under CC or GFDL). Setup Wiki Or editable space and ask for contribution. Go every possible Meetups by Geeks/Hackers and talk down personally.. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Reminder] GeekMeetup 11th June, 2011.
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From: Gaurav Paliwal gaurav.paliwal1...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:46 PM
Subject: [LUG@IITD:14080] [Reminder] GeekMeetup
To: iitd...@googlegroups.com
Hi,
Just a reminder that we[1] are having a GeekMeetup [2] in Delhi on 11th
June, 2011.
[1] : http://www.lug-iitd.org/Main_Page
[2] : http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_11_June_2011
Other Details (taken from wiki page) :
What
- We are having Geek Meetup this time with [lug...@googlegroups.com LUG
Jnu ],NCR Python Users Group
http://http//mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ncr-python.in
- [lug...@googlegroups.com LUG Jnu ] is proud to invite all for a meetup
in association with , [lug-iitd.org LUG@IITD] and NCR Python Users Group.
This will be a meeting of GNU/Linux enthusiasts, with two broad agenda one
is Technical and Non-Technical nature , the organizational and event
discussions are basically of Non Technical Nature and all the presentations
from Python Users group and GSOC participants will be technical in nature.
You are free to add to any other points broadly in these two categories.
We generally go out for Snacks/Dinner after the meetup depending on the time
spent and calories burnt :-) , so be prepared for a long day.
When/Where
- Date : 11 June 2011 {Saturday}
- Time : 11am to 5 pm
- Venue : School Of Computational Integrative Sciences(SCIS).
(previously known to be SIT) (Biotech Building)
- Directions to reach:
- Nearest Metro Station : Hauz khas Metro Station from there Use Auto
or Bus
- Nearest Bus Stop : Poorvanchal , DDA Munarika Flats
- [
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.5326lon=77.1852zoom=14layers=MJNU]
on OSM
http://www.openstreetmap.org/map .
- Contact : Anmol: 9968408208 or Sachin: 9582017550 or Kapil: 9899298361
if you face any problem
Fees
Fees : Zero
Agenda
1. *Big Number of GSOC students have made to this years programme on GSOC
, so lets celebrate that with recording interviews and sharing with wider
world outside.
*
2. *GSOC students can present there project ideas short five minutes
talks.
*
3. *In the Last NCR Python meetup Debyan again mentioned about why the
regular yearly big event is not happening in North region , i think this is
the apt time and place to fan this thought process and know from all
stakeholders, here is some background about what has happened so far with
respect to event in Delhi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freed.in
*
4. *Pythonistas agenda to talk about http://in.pycon.org/2011/cfp and get
larger audience to the event in Pune
*
5. *Wikipedia Guys will also join.
*
If you want to talk on a topic please update the vacant space above.
Installations of Linux Distros is available - come with laptop, we will
install GNU/Linux.
Purpose
Same as previous. Talk , Discuss, Participate, Present, Show your current
work and involvement in FOSS. not a fix guidelines but it is open.
During Meetup
While you are at the Event you can use !GeekMeetupD or !lugiitd or !iitdlug
to share something about the event on Identi.ca so that it appears on
Grouphttps://identi.ca/group/iitdlugtimeline.
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http://gauravpaliwal.com
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Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] [Commercial] Linux Open Source Jobs Site Announced
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: We are launching a section of Muktware[1] called - Linux and Open Source Jobs. Under this section, you can search and apply for Linux and Open Source Jobs. If you are an employer or looking for full time employees, experts for contract-based projects, freshers and trainees, you can post job openings and find right candidates for your firm. If you are an engineering student looking for Jobs in the Linux and Open Source industry, you can search for appropriate jobs and apply with one click. The service is available for free of cost. You can also redirect to fossjobs.in !! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Why are We Cross-posting ??
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:51 PM, krish das.srikris...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: Seems you have some eye problem.. Yes I do, and I use -0.25 glasses for it. But you my un-friend have attitude problem. If you mail your opinion on the list then get ready to have both -ve and +ve replies. If you need only +ve replies, then write on the first line of email that you are incapable of taking criticism. Next time don't email me off-list for any reason; what-so-ever. If I send you an OFFLIST email then why the hell you are sending it on mailing list again.. and if you read the my mail then you will get you know that I wrote a mail for ASKING A SOLUTION FOR HAVING NO OR MINIMAL CROSSPOSTING.. So like we can setup and ILUG-ANNOUCE mailing list which can be used for announcement purpose only (like a news or job posting or anything which user want to post on many forums/) Now we can ask everybody to join this mailing list or broadcast mail from this announcement mailing list to all possible LUGs (ofcourse after moderation) 1 year back I got irritated by job posting on mailing list (because of cross posting, same thing on all possible mailing list).. Then I created a separate mailing list and after that I created/hosted a dedicated site for it.. (http://fossjobs.in) and Yes , I just made a single mistake in original posting.. I typed -- So can we stop this? I should have wrote - So can we minimise it next line say -- We need to think some better solutions You tried to diverted my discussion by typing this Wait a sec, IMHO you did the same ( cross posting ) with your elpa technologies paid training advertisement email. Dude, There is no good mechanism (or better solution) exist that is why I did cross-posting for elpa's training notice.. I wanted to discuss about community opinion rather the play game of criticism on who is doing what? PS: I do not have any attitude problem , probably you need to understand me better and for this purpose you can spend some time with me on coffee or tea ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] open source: try, encourage and discourage - anyway out?
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Mohit Singh gmohitsi...@gmail.com wrote: We saw MySQL, Skype and now the next target can be VLC or even firefox. skype is not FOSS , even if it is FOSS, we should never use it, it use proprietary format.. Let me speak again -- Open Standards are MORE important then Open Source... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] open source: try, encourage and discourage - anyway out?
No company would ever buy any other company which has Software which are licensed under GPLv3.. So one need not to worry about any project which is under GPLv3.. And you can always fork it.. if owner changes license for new version ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Why are We Cross-posting ??
We are seeing an increasing trend of crossposting of email on most of the LUGs of India.. So can we stop this??? we can choose one or create a FINAL mailing list for this purpose or BAN cross-posting in all LUGs.. We need to think some better solutions.. Constructive replys are highly welcome.. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial] 4 Week Summer Training on Introduction to FOSS and Open Technology at ELPA Technologies
Finally we are up with 4 Week Summer Training on FOSS (free and open source software) and Open Technology Visit for all details http://elpacorp.com/training/ One can ask more details at i...@elpacorp.com -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Re-Introduction to DebBundle project
If you have Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit and do not have vlc on it. then you can
download this 24MB package -
http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/downloads/detail?name=vlc.x86_64.OneClickInstall
and just give a one click, it will it install vlc on your system
So, how I have done it, Here it the full story..
Problem - How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do not
have Internet ?
I know there are multiple solution to this problem.. Here I am giving one
very solution which looks perfect to solve the problem
you can down the script from http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/
What this little script will do..
For example, your system do not have vlc , then you can go to other system
which has Internet and then run the script .
Script will produce VLC.i386.OneClickInstall ,
You can can carry this file to anywhere and then install it by just clicking
it. Let me repeat, Just by clicking it, neither you terminal , nor you need
any extra software to install it.
So enjoy it and give me feedback. ( narendra AT narendrasisodiya DOT com )
read more at -
http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2011/05/how-to-install-software-package-on.html
http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2011/05/how-to-install-software-package-on.html
Script will only download the files which are needed on a given system. But
the OneClickInstall Bundles will created on a centralized manner on a
freshly installed Ubuntu/Debian.
What I am exactly doing ? I am basically reproducing the beauty of D:
Drive which almost every windows user has. For example when I was in BTech,
I never used Internet but Still I did many installation
and re-installation of Windows where everytime I use to go to D:\Software
folder to make few clicks to install all other software. {I was not aware of
GNU/Linux at my BTech. please excuse me}
There are still many many user exist who do not have Internet and this
solution will help them a lot.
Also, My intention is to create a 3GB bundle from this script which will
cover almost every daam COMMOM software for normal user.
I hope you got my intension behind this.
Last year , I did the same, instead of creating this 3GB oneclickbundle, I
create iso with lots of customizations. Its called SchoolOS. those who
used it, just loved it. But unfortunate people took it as different OS and
hesitated to installed SchoolOS.
There is no momentum in SchoolOS project from last 4 months.
I hope, people will love this solution. I am trying to solve all common
problem which normal user face. For example, In SchoolOS , I compiled list
of command-line operations which normal user do, and then I created nautilus
script to do same thing from GUI..
Well this solution is not for user who can run command line apt-get install
..., its for them who want to install it using just ONE CLICK.
There will not be any dependency problem
WHY - ?
because I am creating these bundles on freshly installed system. I am no
going to Install anything on this system. So I am minimum number of packages
on my system which you will be having.
Let me repeat again.
Step 1) Install Ubuntu
Step 2) Click on this 3GB bundle and this will install almost all software
which you ( office guy, programmer, engineer, students) need. I might
create smaller package something like 600MB and so too.
Checkout the LOG for VLC - http://gist.github.com/958318
Someone with higher bandwidth can also use it. Nothing wrong it 2 step
process. you will eventually create some software bundle which might be
useful to you in future or different machine..
For a sample, Try installing one click installation of VLC -
http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/downloads/detail?name=vlc.x86_64.OneClickInstall
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[ilugd] Fist Ever Peaceful Protest Against Software Ghotala
Dear All, I am giving name Software Ghotala to a process where Govt buy same set of software again and again from same or different vendor. It is mostly for promotion of Free and Open Source , Open Technology solution. Purpose of this silent and peaceful protest 1) To give a awareness abut FOSS in general public and popularizes the term software ghotala. We can sit on India Gate on next Sunday, I do not if we have any other events on this date. So Next GeekMeetup will be on 17 April 2011 on India Gate to promote FOSS and tell public about widespread Software Ghotala.. I think, all we need is banners that we can easily prepare at our home.. If you are coming for the Fist EVER Protest against Indian Software Ghotala then let me know.. -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] First Ever Peaceful Protest Against Software Ghotala
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: Dear All, I am giving name Software Ghotala to a process where Govt buy same set of software again and again from same or different vendor. It is mostly for promotion of Free and Open Source , Open Technology solution. Purpose of this silent and peaceful protest 1) To give a awareness abut FOSS in general public and popularizes the term software ghotala. We can sit on India Gate on next Sunday, I do not if we have any other events on this date. So Next GeekMeetup will be on 17 April 2011 on India Gate to promote FOSS and tell public about widespread Software Ghotala.. I think, all we need is banners that we can easily prepare at our home.. If you are coming for the First EVER Protest against Indian Software Ghotala then let me know.. I have corrected the subject - It was mis-spelled. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] oni hindi phonetic keyboard released, please use it
-- Forwarded message -- From: Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:08:07 +0530 Subject: [LUG@IITD:12801] soni hindi phonetic keyboard released, please use it To: IITDLUG iitd...@googlegroups.com Checkout - http://code.google.com/p/soni-hindi-phonetic-keyboard/ Please use it, if you like it then spread the world. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ -- LUG@IITD - http://lug-iitd.org/Footer -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Delhi NCR GeekMeetup - 4th edition at Jamia
So this is the 4th Geekup at NCR Delhi. at every Geekmeetup we choose one college and FOSS community of NCR try to gather at one roof and support their Local LUG. for example we had 2nd Geekmeetup at Amity with Amity FOSS User Group. 3rd Geekup was in another educational institute. Now the 4th Geekmeetup at Jamia with the help of Jamia FOSS User Groups.. Thanks everybody for organising and participating regular meetups and connecting all of us,, Wiki page on GeekMeetup - http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_13_Mar_2011 Conf@Jamia is a two day fest (12 and 13 March 2011), GeekMeetup will be on 13th March 2011. Please edit the wiki and add your speaking sessions,.,. Please spread ... -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial] Looking for trainers for single day training in summer at very good one package at Delhi
If you are freelancer or working in a company or doing some job, then you can come to Delhi for just day to teach some students. YUP we need experts and trainers at Delhi who can deliver lecture in FOSS Technology. we only need 6 hours for one day training. One trainer is only allowed to work with us only for 2-3 days per month. So in nutshell we are looking for 10-15 such trainers. Trainer will be paid minimum 2000 or more for their work per day. Write an email to i...@elpacorp.com and send list of topic which you can teach. Remember you can give list of any FOSS technology or software. We do not need any CV or anything, All we need one day commitment and good training lecture. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Good news for you!
2011/3/2 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org: On Tuesday 01 Mar 2011, Mayank wrote: Make your life happier!. http://www.vaca-loca.biz/links.php?eaolid=573 Added to: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData His account has been cracked... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote: There is a field on the donation form that says: In the name of If you would like to make this donation in someone else's name, please enter it here. Otherwise, leave it blank. So who is this going to be? In the name of XYZ I do not have time to discuss anything on this issue, My time is valuable and I do not to discuss , come attend, one need not to pay/donate if he/she do not want. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: This is what Narendra wrote in his first post. We are starting a donation drive for FSF on 16 Jan 2011 at Geek Meetup - Cash collected during meetup will be transferred of the Credit Card Holder the he will transfer money to FSF account during meetup itself ... will be transferred of the Credit Card Holder ... Would have been better phrased as:- ... will be transferred to one Credit Card Holder... Sigh. Its a known fact that my English skills are not good. anyway thanks to GOD that you have finally got what i wanted to say.. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Today we have GeekMeetup at 1pm onward - bethere !
http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_16_Jan_2011 -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Narendra Sisodiya said on Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:06:49PM +0530,: You have not answered the question - is the fund raiser for FSF-I or FSF-B? FSF-B IMO, you should contact them before you run a fundraiser on their behalf. Else, you are setting a bad precedent. Any random guy can come around, make a few posts on some random mailing list claiming to support FLOSS, and then start fund raising drives; and then vanish with the funds. Please get in touch with FSF-B before you use their name to raise funds. Or for that matter, any other project. Cannot you check their website ? Do one think, just give 5 second to visit this website http://www.fsf.org/ After clicking that website , checkout the banner on the TOP,, Can not you read they are asking for funds ? So I am just helping those guys who want to pay them in cash,, what the big deal ?? Why should i contact them ?? I am still unable to catch your mind waves.. they are trying to make a resonance in my mind.. -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Narendra Sisodiya said on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:49:40PM +0530,: Its not a question of whom to donate. You have not answered the question - is the fund raiser for FSF-I or FSF-B? FSF-B It is not relevant is, I am afraid, evading the question. checkout fsf.org, many who want to donate do not have creditcard or account or sufficient motivation to donate like even 10 INR. So on workshop we are trying to collect money and submit on behalf of all of US. There is nothing on FSF (both -I and -B) site which shows which of the donors / supports have credit cards. Please be specific. Which of the FSFs is this for? It is a question of bonafides. visit - FSF.org ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:11530] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:13 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
I will be speaking on 16 Jan 2011 on Why we should donate to FSF for 10
minutes.
We are starting a donation drive for FSF on 16 Jan 2011 at Geek Meetup -
Cash collected during meetup will be transferred of the Credit Card
Holder the he will transfer money to FSF account during meetup itself
using his credit card.
Everything will happen on the stop itself so loopholes..
http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_16_Jan_2011#FSF_Donation_Drive
Almost 50+ people are coming, one can donate from 50 INR to 5000 INR.
It depends on your pocket money. So Lets make donation to one of the
most important organization who is still fighting for digital freedom.
If you are unable to attend the meetup and want to donate to FSF, then
you do it online - https://my.fsf.org/donate/
i think we already have a project in hand http://fossyatra.in/PhaseOne.html
, which needs funding now , why cant we use this meetup to raise some
awareness and funds .charity begins at home what do you say ?
We Sit in India, Doing Social Work and asking for donation does not
work in non-religious fields like technology.
Atleast I cannot ask donation for project which i am associated with
{how many they may be}..
Even after living on 27 years on earth, I am unable to understand the
How human system works exactly so I never ask for our Donations to
various project..
Infact if run following command
whois lug-iitd.org | grep Expiration
you will get to know, this domain is about to expire.. funds are
needed at several places, I think , it will take long time...
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Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:11531] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:13 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: i think we already have a project in hand http://fossyatra.in/PhaseOne.html , which needs funding now , why cant we use this meetup to raise some awareness and funds .charity begins at home what do you say ? I wholly agree with this. FSF will be getting donations anyway. This awesome attempt in our homeland should be given a higher priority. +100 If people are ready to donate for foss-yatra - then no problem we can ask for which somebody want to donate.. -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:11531] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:13 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: i think we already have a project in hand http://fossyatra.in/PhaseOne.html , which needs funding now , why cant we use this meetup to raise some awareness and funds .charity begins at home what do you say ? I wholly agree with this. FSF will be getting donations anyway. This awesome attempt in our homeland should be given a higher priority. +100 If people are ready to donate for foss-yatra - then no problem we can ask for which somebody want to donate.. But personally I do not feel good for asking any donation at this stage.. not even after 6 month.. If we can make this self-sustainable then fine.. otherwise, we will stop this project. we are paying it from our pocket and let it be.. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
I will be speaking on 16 Jan 2011 on Why we should donate to FSF for 10 minutes. We are starting a donation drive for FSF on 16 Jan 2011 at Geek Meetup - Cash collected during meetup will be transferred of the Credit Card Holder the he will transfer money to FSF account during meetup itself using his credit card. Everything will happen on the stop itself so loopholes.. http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_16_Jan_2011#FSF_Donation_Drive Almost 50+ people are coming, one can donate from 50 INR to 5000 INR. It depends on your pocket money. So Lets make donation to one of the most important organization who is still fighting for digital freedom. If you are unable to attend the meetup and want to donate to FSF, then you do it online - https://my.fsf.org/donate/ -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I will be speaking on 16 Jan 2011 on Why we should donate to FSF for 10 minutes. We are starting a donation drive for FSF on 16 Jan 2011 at Geek Meetup - Cash collected during meetup will be transferred of the Credit Card Holder the he will transfer money to FSF account during meetup itself using his credit card. Everything will happen on the stop itself so loopholes.. http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_16_Jan_2011#FSF_Donation_Drive Almost 50+ people are coming, one can donate from 50 INR to 5000 INR. It depends on your pocket money. So Lets make donation to one of the most important organization who is still fighting for digital freedom. If you are unable to attend the meetup and want to donate to FSF, then you do it online - https://my.fsf.org/donate/ would these donations go to FSF Boston or FSF India? Since FSF India has no means to get donations in dollars, money sent out of the country cannot be spent in India. i recommend the donors to donate to FSF India, which can be used for programs within India. -- GN It is upto the members. They will donate cash in INR and form credit card, it will be transferred to FSF account. -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Nagarjuna G. said on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 09:23:14PM +0530,: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I will be speaking on 16 Jan 2011 on Why we should donate to FSF for 10 minutes. We are starting a donation drive for FSF on 16 Jan 2011 at Geek Meetup - Cash collected during meetup will be transferred of the Credit Card Holder the he will transfer money to FSF account during meetup itself using his credit card. Everything will happen on the stop itself so loopholes.. http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_16_Jan_2011#FSF_Donation_Drive Almost 50+ people are coming, one can donate from 50 INR to 5000 INR. It depends on your pocket money. So Lets make donation to one of the most important organization who is still fighting for digital freedom. If you are unable to attend the meetup and want to donate to FSF, then you do it online - https://my.fsf.org/donate/ would these donations go to FSF Boston or FSF India? Since FSF India has no means to get donations in dollars, money sent out of the country cannot be spent in India. i recommend the donors to donate to FSF India, which can be used for programs within India. More crucial question - does FSF Boston know about this drive? How does it matter - 5 hour before Parin donated $2 http://identi.ca/notice/62041901 How does it matters if RMS know about it, fsf.org has opened a donation drive like wikipedia. we are just trying to support. Since Nagarjuna did not know about this earlier, this is not with blessings of FSF-I. Obvious. That said, about 7-8 years back, we were discussing tying up with some agency for enabling online donations to FSF-I. Is that in place yet? I know quite a few who would rather volunteer and donate to FSF Boston rather than FSF-India. Its not a question of whom to donate. checkout fsf.org, many who want to donate do not have creditcard or account or sufficient motivation to donate like even 10 INR. So on workshop we are trying to collect money and submit on behalf of all of US. -- Mahesh T. Pai || Distributing free copies of non-free software is -- -- like advertising drugs. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] FOSSYatra - Second phase in Rajasthan
So FOSSYatra is starting the second phase from second week of this month. Please checkout the blog entry on it - http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/fossyatra-second-phase-in-rajasthan -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D - FOSSTIVAL 2009 Invitation from GNU/Linux User Group - Meerut
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Re: [ilugd] Need Linux Kernel and Drivers Trainers.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Arun K. Singh arun...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/4 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org On Tuesday 04 Jan 2011, Arun K. Singh wrote: 2011/1/4 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org Since this is a commercial requirement, list etiquette suggests that you add [COMMERCIAL] in the subject line. Ok, do you want this to be re-posted? Nope, the message had already gotten through :) Just keep it in mind for future postings. Ok, could you point to the guidelines governing such etiquettes on this forum? sure - http://www.google.co.in/search?q=ilugd+mailing+guidelines see first result. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] cam
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:13 PM, vivek kumar vivek.2k...@gmail.com wrote: hi I have a usb quantum qhm500 8lm webcam. i install ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop but no supported this webcam work only kernel 2.6.17 but ubuntu 9.04 kernel is 2.6.28 so ho to install. please suggest me. Otherwise I take Take a live CD of any current Distro like 10.10 or fedora 14 and try webcam there. If it do not work then please give us output of lsbusb, before and after pluging webcam. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] cam
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:13 PM, vivek kumar vivek.2k...@gmail.com wrote: hi I have a usb quantum qhm500 8lm webcam. i install ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop but no supported this webcam work only kernel 2.6.17 but ubuntu 9.04 kernel is 2.6.28 so ho to install. please suggest me. Otherwise I take Take a live CD of any current Distro like 10.10 or fedora 14 and try webcam there. If it do not work then please give us output of lsbusb, before and after pluging webcam. Why don't you purchase Linux Supported Webcam - I found one - http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2010/07/linux-supported-webcam-in-delhi.html -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Linux supported webcam in Delhi
If you are using Any external USB Webcam, and it is working fine, then Please add your model of webcam at this wiki page, 2 minute editing will help to many users. OR you can send me a email, i will add it here. http://lug-iitd.org/Linux_Supported_WebCam_in_Delhi Thanks !! -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Idea about linux
2011/1/1 ayush patnaik ayushpatn...@gmail.com Maybe you should make a Facebook group and hold online conferences weekly. Everyone can contribute on making it also after making this group we can make a new Linux better than ubuntu and fedora Some efforts are already there http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_16_Jan_2011 -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011
Date : 16 Jan 2011 {Sunday}
Time : 1 pm to 6pm
Venue : To be decided.
I request IIT Delhi guys like Alok Arul Abhishek to start working on
booking the room/seminar hall as This can be done in IITDelhi. in Last
discussion everybody talked about IITD/JNU etc.
IF there are good venue like Vkendra or Vkendra is ready to give another
venue then, Lets do it.
Fees : FREE of COST
Purpose : Same as previous. Talk , Discuss, Participate, Present, Show your
current work and involvement in FOSS. not a fix guidelines but it is open.
Infact parallel room should be available for those who just want to see face
and discuss or just a social gathering.
ADD, modify the purpose guidelines.
Restriction of Meetup :
* Do not promote non-free, non-foss
* Do not promote non-standards aka close standards
* Do not promote software patents
* Do not promote DRM
* I request you not to have debate or flamewar on these restrictions.
Because these guidelines says you can bring you MAC PC or nokia mobile, but
you cannot says, USE this as a speaker..
* NO debate for this section.
Talks :
1) Please select your topic of presentation or discussion or sharing. It can
be anything like if you install GNU/Linux and what he felt and how you fix
problem or just a share like I went to this ATM and that is Linux based Or
your college project where other can put expert comments Or just what you
would like to tell.
You have good amount of time, appx 15-20 days, Please prepare and make a
good presentation and let other also do same and have a another successful
meetup.
Facebook page - not a compulsion, but you may RSVP if you are attending,
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=176363505731852
You can create event page on other social medium too.
Suggestions :
+Please put your 'constructive' suggestions ! Thanks +
Pics of previous meetup -
http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/pics-of-delhi-foss-geek-meetup-26-dec-2010
http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/post-event-photos-of-evening-hangout-and-soci
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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Pratul Kalia pra...@pratul.in wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: Restriction of Meetup : * Do not promote non-free, non-foss * Do not promote non-standards aka close standards * Do not promote software patents * Do not promote DRM * I request you not to have debate or flamewar on these restrictions. Because these guidelines says you can bring you MAC PC or nokia mobile, but you cannot says, USE this as a speaker.. * NO debate for this section. Even though you requested a no debate, I will still say this. I digress. Some of my favorite open source projects are on OS X. Yes, I never said, you cannot show those code, even I am agree with Windows application which are read it as , which are FOSS application , Use any platform You can show your FOSS work on any platform but Laptop which is going to be connected with Projector must be having Linux distro on it. I do not know how you manage it. You can still Show pdf/odp files, video files etc for demo. Purpose of meetup and showing your work will be solved using Linux distro connected to Projector. But as a Strict rule, MAC and Windows Laptop/PC cannot be connected to Projector. 1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc 2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform. But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable. What I suggest you to make a demo in video format which can be used in Linux... Agains, this is not the exact guidelines, we need to work and follow best thing. IMHO there should be no restriction on the platform being used. Open source has nothing to do with choice of platform or programming language. If that's the case, let's disallow all FOSS contributions coming in from people using a closed system. Makes no sense, right? Regards Pratul -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: [...] Yes, I never said, you cannot show those code, even I am agree with Windows application which are application , Use any platform 1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc 2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform. But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable. Why??? What if I am using Openoffice on Windows or Mac? But OOO is available in Linux too. While meetup, one dedicated Laptop will be connected to Projector which will be having all the software you need. I think that is good enough.. What you says ? -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Pratul Kalia pra...@pratul.in wrote: [...] Even though you requested a no debate, I will still say this. I digress. Some of my favorite open source projects are on OS X. IMHO there should be no restriction on the platform being used. Open source has nothing to do with choice of platform or programming language. If that's the case, let's disallow all FOSS contributions coming in from people using a closed system. Makes no sense, right? Correcto. Then we should stop using Acer/HP/Dell and all other laptops who don't release the schematics of their motherboard/hardware. Let us stop using HTC/Nokia/Samsung/LG whose mobile phone schematics are not released. Heck, I can't use my watch then. XD There are two things.. 1) something we can ! 2) something we should should include many things which need to be done. Also, I am not sure why mention the city at all. Instead of Delhi/NCR/Bikaner Geek Meetup why can't it be FOSS Geek Meetup in Delhi? Aha, Good one.. Lets other vote for this.. we can use this too.. All in all, why does anything matter at all? Let just meet and let us all show off our work to each other and be geeky? :'( +1+1+1+1 We would love to hear your recent work what you have done with Arduino and that LCD screen :) I love that project. Not so happy Regards n9986 -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Pratul Kalia pra...@pratul.in wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: 1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc Agree with this. 2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform. You can't possibly do that. Forget it. But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable. What I suggest you to make a demo in video format which can be used in Linux... This is what I am against. Promoting one thing is different from using it as a tool. India is the only country where some geek meetup takeplace with showing windows and doc presentations says use OpenSource we , we all do not want such type of meetup in Delhi... Things can be avoided... We will solve these problems when they will come but as of now, we can atleast agree for promotion of non-free stuff, non-standards, sw patents, DRM are restricted... laptop which we will connect to Projector will be containing GNU/Linux Distro Agains, this is not the exact guidelines, we need to work and follow best thing. The best thing is to not think too much about this. Meet up, talk, work, have fun. If you start getting specific, you'll have a tough time charting everything out. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FOSS profit
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Sagar Belure sagar.bel...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Maybe I'm asking another noob question. But, wanted to know, how the big companies gain profit who run Free and Open Source project like Mozilla, Apache, etc. Of course, even if you are working for Free and Open source projects, there has to be some income. I'm hoping for the varieties of views on this. PS: Apologize for the cross post. Do not include the other mailing list id if you are not subscribed to it. 1) There are many guys who do for non-profit , may be for passion or may be for academic requirement 2) NonProfit Organisation - gets funds/donation and raise money and apply that in software development Ex Mozilla, Wikipedia, FSF 3) For Profit Companies Who are not setting Linux Distro (like Google) but depends on Linux (because he cannot buy 1,0+ windows to run their server, even if M$ offer for free, google won't take crap and s*it) So its Google sole interest for improving FOSS/Linux 4) Companies who sale Linux Service like RedHat and Canonical want to create better distro 5) Startup guys who work on Open LAMP stack and new API Libraries like ruby, python etc contribute to FOSS project inorder to get expertise and make portfolio. There is no direct selling of software involved. but many freelancer who work for FOSS communities work on project basic and sell their custom code to many known/unknown companies. They contribute back. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] For Indian Debian Lovers like me - Please join its mailing list
Please join Indian Debian mailing list - http://lists.debian.org/debian-dug-in/ I am now migrating from Ubuntu to Debian because Debian give all things which ubuntu provide in a stable form. Debian has three branch 1) Stable 2) Testing 3) Unstable.. Ubuntu and other product are derived from Unstable branch and meant for mass testing, Ubuntu never cared about bug and stick to time table, the famous 10/10/10 release were having bugs and they released because they wanted to release it on time. Above all, I do not to live with a OS which is controlled by a company who is targeting on MacOS. Look and feel and behavior of ubuntu is going towards mac os. I want to devote my rest of the life for advocating and improving Debian in India. Those who want a better look and feel can try latest mint which is also based on debian - http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1604 http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/09/07/linux-mint-9-debian/ -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Delhi-NCR FOSS geek meetup - Pictures and Feedback Needed..
Total 23 people from Delhi, Gurgoan, Noida have attended todays FOSS geek
meeetup.
Here are the pics - *
http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/pics-of-delhi-foss-geek-meetup-26-dec-2010*
Please give your feedback , here or in your blogs/tweets and notify here.
Totally It was a great event.. We started with 1.30 sharp and ended around
7pm in night. After that 10 people (better says geek) has social gathering
and eat-out.
It took us 1 hour 30 minute to complete our introduction. Because we were
discussing a lot. first presentation was finished at 4 pm. Arulalant gave a
good presentation on python. Later Gaurav explain reason on why debian is
better then ubuntu, It was a flame war kind of session and everybody
enjoyed.. everybody was sharing their experience. Everybody was telling
about FOSS story and how they started LUG/FUG/FSUG in their college.
Ankur Anand Anuvrat Parashar shared their college project and we all
discussed and suggested many things. Totally rank this event as 10/10.
We all will try to manage this kind of monthly meetup... There were many
face from Delhi FOSS community was missing and we missed them too. hope to
see a bigger response for next meetup.
We can have NEXT Meetup at 9 DEC or 16 Dec {both are Sunday}
Based on suggestion, we can improve. Feel free to drop a email or just write
a blog so that other can also Participate.
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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Mehul Ved mehul.n@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update my observation rule number one 1) never upgrade Ubuntu , always reinstall.. Stupid rule. I repeat - golden rule, follow it or get trouble.. http://www.google.co.in/search?q=ubuntu+upgrade+10.04+to+10.10+failed Google says - 1,96,000 Results. , http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=enq=ubuntu+%2B+upgrade+%2B+failed Google says - 15,00,000 Results I guess u are lucky,,, I have been upgrading ubuntu since ages on mine and my sister's PC since ages without any problem that I didn't manage to solve. I am talking about normal user and not sysadmin type of guys (like me ) who can handle problems Leave reinstalls to windows noobs. And what's with the redundancy in numbering? -- With Regards, Mehul Ved -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Buying a New Dell Laptop Without Windows
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:04 PM, subodh subodh.rohi...@gmail.com wrote:
Can I buy a Dell laptop without the Windows Operating System so that i can
cut cost on that?
Also it is unfare to forcefully sell windows to customer who are unware of
the choices. Some step similar to European Union in case of web browser
choice(
http://mynetx.net/#!/2042/eu-settles-web-browser-arguement-with-microsoft)
should be taken.
This can be tried.. but this need a good amount of effort and legal work. we
may need to hire legal services .
This if we able to take Windows refund then it will be a small revolution
in nehru place in the content of FOSS.. {infact india}
I am willing to provide any help you need in this case !
Niyam once discussed this kind of things with me but we never got time to
meet each other after that interaction.
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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update my observation rule number one 1) never upgrade Ubuntu , always reinstall.. rule number two 2) never install Ubuntu without making a proper data backup ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10941] Re: Delhi/NCR FOSS meetup - call for session/presentation
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:19 PM, anky ankurdn...@gmail.com wrote: @ Kinshuk i did implement my Project, but my University is not interested in implementing it right now, i have thought of something else ! And as far as giving a talk on the project, i can, but i know that my knowledge about it is still incomplete.. none the less would love to talk about it ! for Others, I had started with a project of Adding an University Module using Qt + MeeGo for my university ! So i would wanna talk about MeeGo and Qt, anyone else who else wants to join me, please add onto this I will love to hear your presentation Sure !! I will add your name on meetup on 26 dec for MeeGo and Qt On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kinshuk Sunil kinshuksu...@gmail.comwrote: anky, dec 25 is 2 days away... why dont you give a talk on your project too ? On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:07 PM, anky ankurdn...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for Drupal, i also have recently started using it so would love to have a talk over it ! On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Zareef Ahmed zar...@zareef.net wrote: Hi All, I would like to do a presentation on Drupal and its future prospects. Basically I would like to address following questions/process in my presentation. 1. Why drupal is better than other CMS in general? 2. Which kind of problems Drupal developer usually face? 3. Role of a Drupal Designer 4. Why many version 6 modules are giving nightmares? 5. Drupal 7 : Whats new and how it will help? +1 from me on that. I would love to see a talk on drupal. Regards, Nalin -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm -- ANKY -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm -- ANKY -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Announcing Delhi-NCR FOSS Geek Meetup on 26 Dec 2010
After a long waiting time, we have FOSS Meetup at Delhi-NCR.
All the details are given at
http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/delhi-ncr-foss-geek-meetup-on-26-dec-2010
If you have any question, Please ask,
you can also attend and discuss FOSS with us.
Please note that, the idea is not for have presentation or seminar. The idea
is to have discussion and Talk between us and what we each are doing.
Total 6 Talk/discussion are listed so far
Arulalan - Python/Ruby Intro Class
Kalpana Mehta - Implementing open source in school : Obstacles and our
Approach
Narendra Sisodiya - Roadmap for those who want to promote FOSS, success and
failure of some projects so far
Gaurav Paliwal - Commercial aspect in E-Gov using OpenSource.
Ankur Anand (anky) - MeeGO QT
Zareef Ahmed - Drupal and its future prospects Role of a Drupal
Designer
Gaurav Paliwal - Why adopt Debian and forget Ubuntu.
Those who are there on fecebook can RSVP on
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137932729596787index=1 {This is
optional}
*Please RSVP only when you are attending.*
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Re: [ilugd] Mid-range laptop for Linux (Debian)
2010/12/22 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org Coming back to the matter in hand, I was planning to buy a mid-range laptop (actually someone else planning to buy me one, for reasons too complex to go into), and was wondering if you could share your experiences with laptops that are fully FOSS-compliant. http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification http://lug-iitd.org/List_of_laptop_with_preinstalled_GNU-Linux_in_India http://lug-iitd.org/Articles/My_laptop_is_working_fine_with_linux ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS meetup - call for session/presentation
Date : 26 Dec 2010 Time : 1pm to 5 pm Venue : will be announced on 23 dec 2010 (mid day) Following are confirmed presentation * Arulalan - Python/Ruby Intro Class * Narendra Sisodiya - Roadmap for those who want to promote FOSS, success and failure of some projects so far. * This is general purpose gathering of FOSS lovers in Delhi/NCR Please reply, If you want to present something on FOSS or about your FOSSy projects. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:10894] Delhi FOSS meet
We are 13 (narendra, kalpana, vikas, arulalan, sheel, nalin, satyakam, gaurav misra, sagar, aditya , chirag anki ) Please add your name if you want to attend. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Arulalan T arulal...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to every one here .!. I am happy to see this month delhi lug meet with more than 10 to 15 people. Its nice. And this will be my first lug meetup in delhi. Hope I will be meet many delhi luggies... I am not much familiar in delhi. So please mention the place with route path in any metro way... Lets rock .!. -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm IIT Delhi cannot be confirmed by today. Let me count the options +++ Venue 1) IHC - India habitat center - Open space is there. no much crowd. we can sit peacefully. No wifi, no power. 2) Delhi haat - Open space is there. much crowd. we can try to sit peacefully. No wifi, no power. 3) IITDelhi - OpenSpace (near wind T or food court) , we can sit peacefully , no wifi , no power, but things will look like l...@iitd only promote IITD (only 1-2 member out of 10 is from iitdelhi , rest from NCR) 4) My Home Office - wifi , power outleft, very near to malviya nagar metro but max 8 can come in one room. Only two rooms are available. Sitting can be done on ground because many workshop and barcamps has such fashion. I have kitchen and we can fry some Pakoda. (we did this in last meetup - ubuntu remix workshop). 5) USO House - I asked my friend rocky to ask for venue. 6) Any Park - 7) Select City Mall - near to malviya nagar metro , has good space to sit and discuss. no wifi, no power. Choose a venue, We need to act fast.. 4 darys remaining +++ Time +++ I vote for 1pm to 5pm. +++ Speaker * Narendra Sisodiya - Roadmap for those who want to promote FOSS, success and failure so far. * Arulalan - Python/Ruby Intro Class * Add your name here if you want to present.. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Delhi ILUG meet
Please select venue ! On 12/18/10, anky ankurdn...@gmail.com wrote: me too . ready for the FOSS meet ! On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 7:42 AM, aditya adi...@techaditya.in wrote: ME 2.count me in Regards Adi On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Arulalan T arulal...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/16 Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com yesss... Great idea... We should have a delhi foss meet... Apart from malls, we can also meet in pvr anupam or at a park... As weather is good these days... I am interesting to participate in FOSS meetup. count me too. We will arrange some meetup in any park itself. Arrange soon in any of the saturdays/sundays. Also please mention the location of meetup. I am newbie to Delhi. :) Now I am working in IIT Delhi. Want to meet all of you guys soon. :) Regards, Nalin ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Regards, Arulalan.T Kanchi Linux User Group Rocks ! http://kanchilug.wordpress.com My Experiments In Linux are here http://tuxcoder.wordpress.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Regards Aditya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ANKY ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10873] Delhi FOSS meet
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Sagar Belure sagar.bel...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I'm sending the same message again, in case people have missed in the thread. Hi all, I see a good number of people interested for the meet. I want to know the convenience if it would be fine to hold the meet on 26th Dec 2010, Sunday. Detail: Venue: South Delhi (will let you all know the exact address, once it's ok for all with South Delhi) Date and time: 26th Dec 2010, 2PM to 4PM Please acknowledge the convenience and your presence. already 5-6 people told that they will come. This is good enough, no need to ask who is and coming. I am sure atleast 10-20 will be there. all we need to select a venue. also, we can do lots of things. for example, one can present on some FOSS topic or one can discuss current foss activities which he/she are working with. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:10879] Delhi FOSS meet
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: another good venue in south delhi which is well connected by metro is iit delhi... Assuming we can either find a contact who can get us a classroom or if we can do a picnic type meet... What say ? Please include both mailing list in discussion for foss-meet.. I am fine with Yellow Line Metro.. Anything on yello line is suitable for most of the NCR guys... IITDelhi is one of the option but somebody must work for venue.. Or JNU could be another. but I suggest for Select City Walk (10 Rs auto distance from Malviya nagar metro) Or any big Mall on yello line.. where we all can sit and work. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Delhi ILUG meet
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Sagar Belure sagar.bel...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I would be interested to arrange/participate the ILUG Delhi meet. just call it FOSS meet... There are many other lug exist in delhi,, so better avoid these terms.. we all belongs to same place.. FOSS+NCR... Would love to meet the active Linux hackers in person. So please let me know, if someone is interested to arrange it in this month. -- Thanks, Sagar Belure ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Delhi ILUG meet
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Sagar Belure sagar.bel...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Sagar Belure sagar.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would be interested to arrange/participate the ILUG Delhi meet. just call it FOSS meet... There are many other lug exist in delhi,, so better avoid these terms.. we all belongs to same place.. FOSS+NCR... Sure, no problem. Call it the way you want, I'm just interested with meet and knowledge sharing. :-) In South Delhi, I can provide space for meeting - upto 10 only.. Otherwise, we have lots of malls in city, we can meet anywhere. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
INAL. TINLA. Well, is this my first article against Creative Commons License. actually not. I am not against any license scheme. I want to express in this article is creative commons and anyother license is not made for you - (the normal public). There are better license exist which can help you for creative a better world. Lets us first discuss some of the things. *For whom this article made for* * *This article is made for user who have small understanding over license and other similar thing. But we are the guys who create some resource like write article, post on our facebook wall, we create good tutorial by discussion on mailing list. we even blog, one or two article per day. We are the typical person who want to live in a world where we can reuse other content of the world. We want to reuse the content may be for presentation, may be for any other purpose. We create content and we give to world, we do not want to care about who use this content and in what manner. we even do not to have our name on the content because even if somebody knows my name what he hell I will gain out of it. At the same time , we are reusing content of other too. we really like one lick sharing button of every things to my network and we got fed up of all moronic license which are difficult to understand. Till date, I am able to understand only single license which is -- which is copyright , all right reserved. we understand this license and we never reuse or do anything which this kind of notice. we observed that there are several licenses exist in the world. we live in FOSS communities where Creative Commons is a respectful license so we are just using it without reading it text. we have tried 1-2 times to read and understand it but we failed to do so. Creative License has country wise version. For example CC-By-SA-2.5-In or CC-By-SA-2.5-uk. To my knowledge remixing of license from different countries is not clear. we have to re-read again and again and get some legal advice to remix content of two license which are separated by counties. Even we do not know how to remix CC-By and CC-By-SA. When we tried to remix content, we face a hell lot of problem. Problem is - If you increase the text of license, it kill you. Creative commons have some bad terms. Some guys put NC - non-commercial over their content. Share-Alike is itself a non-commercial. When everybody has right to do same thing then automatically price reduce. For example, if somebody want to sell your article then yes, selling is not bad. he has to recover price of printing page. Good part is everybody is allowed to do so, so automatically price reduce even if you do not put any NC clause. We even are so much dump that we even do not know how to give proper attribution. We want to live in a world where we write our content under certain license so that anybody from this world can reuse it in any manner. we understand the problem like if somebody just want to copy paste one paragraph from each of 10 articles then it will be difficult to attribute properly. So we people do not want to say anything on attribution. We says just use it. at the most we are happy with giving a back link like some of the content are used from this source - but this is an optional step. We people understand that public domain is not valid in some countries otherwise we would have chosen public license for work. so, we want a license which is very near to public domain and definition should so small that it should never give any confusion over reusing contents. One Last comment : we want to make it viral. *The Answer* I do not have good legal understanding, but I thing following License will be vaild in all countries. Do let me know what you feel about this license scheme. +++ Start *(c) 2010, Narendra Sisodiya, http://narendrasisodiya.com This work is release under NPDL license. * *Terms and Conditions of NPDL License: Permission is hereby granted, to use/reuse this work in any manner, provided any use/reuse of the work must be released under NPDL license.* +++ end Replace you name, year and your website, if you want to use this license for your work. NPDL is a viral license. It says, you are allowed to do anything with the work but it pause a condition that resulting work should contains the same license. *ReUse of NPDL Content* If You find two 10 article which are released under NPDL, then you can reuse it in any manner. All you need to put a common license notice. Best thing is adviced is to give credit it in terms of url of source. If somebody do not delete the license text (which is the header) then you can take photocopy, scan it or do any thing withit. Without even thinking for it legality to do so. You can even reuse the NPDL licensed articles into any other license. for example if you are writing a book then you can says - copyright, all right reserved to author but some section are released under NPDL
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10824] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Kinshuk Sunil kinshuksu...@gmail.comwrote: Does the NPDL license mean that I can do anything with the content/source/item provided I let everyone else do whatever they want to do with it such that they do the same ? Yes, but it pause a condition that you cannot own it. it must be release under same license. you take my article and modify it. resultant must be released under same NPDL license. But you can add resultant work into your copyrighted book and you just need to include a exception that - section x.y is relased under NPDL and rest of the book is copyrighted. Basically NPDL is designed to One Click Sharing button believers who want a most simple license to give away or throw away their small work like just 1 -2 screenshots or 1 small blog or a small tutorial. Forgive my ignorance, I am hearing of it for the first time. Is it an OSI approved license? OSI take care about software. This is not for software, but it can be used for software. This is basically for content. content (text/image) and software are different. Different mean, in software we have two layer , source code Application itself. But in content there is nothing called source code. What you is the the source itself. Even if somebody reused your content for profit and he released under NPDL then a villager will be able to take photocopy of that section without any legal trouble. Ofcouse he cannot reuse or scan rest of the book because it was a copyrighted by publisher. License never need any approval. You can create your own license too. License are just terms are condition you provide for terms and condition for using your non-tangible objects like a text or image or content. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: INAL. TINLA. Well, is this my first article against Creative Commons License. actually not. I am not against any license scheme. I want to express in this article is creative commons and anyother license is not made for you - (the normal public). There are better license exist which can help you for creative a better world. Lets us first discuss some of the things. *For whom this article made for* * *This article is made for user who have small understanding over license and other similar thing. But we are the guys who create some resource like write article, post on our facebook wall, we create good tutorial by discussion on mailing list. we even blog, one or two article per day. We are the typical person who want to live in a world where we can reuse other content of the world. We want to reuse the content may be for presentation, may be for any other purpose. We create content and we give to world, we do not want to care about who use this content and in what manner. we even do not to have our name on the content because even if somebody knows my name what he hell I will gain out of it. At the same time , we are reusing content of other too. we really like one lick sharing button of every things to my network and we got fed up of all moronic license which are difficult to understand. Till date, I am able to understand only single license which is -- which is copyright , all right reserved. we understand this license and we never reuse or do anything which this kind of notice. we observed that there are several licenses exist in the world. we live in FOSS communities where Creative Commons is a respectful license so we are just using it without reading it text. we have tried 1-2 times to read and understand it but we failed to do so. Creative License has country wise version. For example CC-By-SA-2.5-In or CC-By-SA-2.5-uk. To my knowledge remixing of license from different countries is not clear. we have to re-read again and again and get some legal advice to remix content of two license which are separated by counties. Even we do not know how to remix CC-By and CC-By-SA. When we tried to remix content, we face a hell lot of problem. Problem is - If you increase the text of license, it kill you. Creative commons have some bad terms. Some guys put NC - non-commercial over their content. Share-Alike is itself a non-commercial. When everybody has right to do same thing then automatically price reduce. For example, if somebody want to sell your article then yes, selling is not bad. he has to recover price of printing page. Good part is everybody is allowed to do so, so automatically price reduce even if you do not put any NC clause. We even are so much dump that we even do not know how to give proper attribution. We want to live in a world where we write our content under certain license so that anybody from this world can reuse it in any manner. we understand the problem like if somebody just want to copy paste one paragraph from each of 10 articles then it will be difficult to attribute properly. So we people do not want to say anything on attribution. We says just
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10824] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: +++ Start *(c) 2010, Narendra Sisodiya, http://narendrasisodiya.com This work is release under NPDL license. * Its - Near Public Domain License. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] [...@iitd:10824] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
of licences, some of which are open and some that aren't. My personal taste is for CC-BY-SA, and I try to use it for all content I release. On Wednesday 15 Dec 2010, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Kinshuk Sunil kinshuksu...@gmail.comwrote: Does the NPDL license mean that I can do anything with the content/source/item provided I let everyone else do whatever they want to do with it such that they do the same ? Yes, but it pause a condition that you cannot own it. it must be release under same license. you take my article and modify it. resultant must be released under same NPDL license. But you can add resultant work into your copyrighted book and you just need to include a exception that - section x.y is relased under NPDL and rest of the book is copyrighted. Basically NPDL is designed to One Click Sharing button believers who want a most simple license to give away or throw away their small work like just 1 -2 screenshots or 1 small blog or a small tutorial. [snip] Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ network mailing list netw...@lists.fosscom.in http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] [...@iitd:10829] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Kinshuk Sunil kinshuksu...@gmail.comwrote: Why not simply release the content in public domain ? Or say something like WTFPL ? honestly, NPDL sounds very ambiguous to me. Very simple. 1) In some countries Public domain has no legal meaning 2) definition of public domain varies 3) somebody told me that In India, you need to give an application to patent or copyright office in written application format. just by putting 'Public domain' does not meant you have done 4) I do not know how to reuse public domain. 5) we must prefer a viral license scheme. 6) WTFPL ? it is better to avoid such terms in license. CC has a public domain license - http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode but it is not Viral in nature. My purpose was just to start and having discussion (I am not promoting NPDL, because i am not 100% sure about its legal position) ! Thanks On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: 2010/12/15 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org While I agree that content and software licences are complex beasts, there are a number of reasons why you should not be promoting this licence. I'll just stick to the main ones here: 1. A licence is meaningless unless there is at least some expectation of it standing up in (some) court. Unless you have competent legal advice or access to vast experience in licensing, you may end up drafting a licence which is legally unenforceable. A licence that is not legally enforceable is not a licence. I wrote a mail so that we can atleast hear its disadvantage and advantage. this problem can be solved. 2. The licence has to clearly distinguish between source and object, and original and derived works. Even content has sources (fonts, for example, need both the glyph and rule definitions, while any vector image is incomplete without its corresponding source file). Similarly, a definition of original and derived, even if only in intent, would be required so people know their precise rights with the licence. If the licence needs to be clarified by the author for each use apart from plain copying, it is too tedious and cumbersome and has failed in its purpose of simplicity. I am not advocating this exact license. I have written that a small set of person like to create their content and they want to give in such a manner so that 1) everybody can be use it for any purpose. 2) nobody can take control over it, I mean it should be viral copyleft. 3) License should be confusion-less, Any beautiful license which has confusion in reusing the content is equal to a close restricted copyright notice which restrict you directly. If you have any license scheme for such person the please share, I will blindly follow that. 3. There are a number of open content licences out there which can serve more or less any function you can think of. The creative commons process for selecting a licence, for instance, makes it trivial to get a licence depending on your intended use for your content. It is not true.. Creative Commons license is not meant for the purpose which i described. I am not against Creative Commons license. as I told, there exist a process incremental remix of knowledge where everybody pool their incremental knowledge or small small knowledge from various resource. For example I am searching Linux Tips and I can find them all around but reusing them is a big hurdle because everybody use different license and most of them never cared about putting a license text. all these are those people who belong to a special category of content remixer and knowledge digger whoose sole task is to generate content and remix it. Creative commons is not a solution. Creative Commons has NC terms which is useless. People put their content in copyleft domain so that other can reuse it. NC is a cancer. SA is not clear. I like boolean over fuzzy when it comes to law.. I like two things 1) all right reserved, you cannot do anything 2) you can do anything. Anything inbetween is a cancer over document world. it create legal and mentally un-usable contents. I wrote 100 times that we are some guys who want to license scheme for second option because we never want jump into legal hurdle into remix. As for use, if you're bothered by the legalese, just get a summary of what the licence tries to achieve and then put the single statement (Content released under FOO licence) in the appropriate place. The advantage is, these licences have been written by people with expertise in both law and content, and with experience in the whole licensing process. Exactly, This is the problem. These are never written by remixer. Creative Commons Licenses (this term means, I am talking about all possible combination of CC) has creative a huge number of license. they say, Select whatever license you want , select what ever country you
Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] [...@iitd:10824] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
2010/12/16 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org On Thursday 16 Dec 2010, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: [snip] I am not advocating this exact license. I have written that a small set of person like to create their content and they want to give in such a manner so that 1) everybody can be use it for any purpose. 2) nobody can take control over it, I mean it should be viral copyleft. 3) License should be confusion-less, Any beautiful license which has confusion in reusing the content is equal to a close restricted copyright notice which restrict you directly. If you have any license scheme for such person the please share, I will blindly follow that. CC-SA or CC-BY-SA both meet those requirements. If you're worried about interoperability, creating another licence isn't the way to approach the problem. Paraphrasing Tannenbaum: The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them, and if you don't like any of the existing ones you can always create one of your own. [more snip] Creative commons is not a solution. Creative Commons has NC terms which is useless. People put their content in copyleft domain so that other can reuse it. NC is a cancer. SA is not clear. I like boolean over fuzzy when it comes to law.. I like two things 1) all right reserved, you cannot do anything 2) you can do anything. If you're not clear about what SA (Share-Alike) is I suggest you get someone who understands licensing to explain it to you. All the scenarios you have mentioned are more than adequately covered by existing licences. And I don't really think that inability to understand licences is an incentive to create your own -- quite the reverse, actually. [yet more snip] Exactly, This is the problem. These are never written by remixer. Creative Commons Licenses (this term means, I am talking about all possible combination of CC) has creative a huge number of license. they say, Select whatever license you want , select what ever country you want. And this process has divided our content into walls. Walls of Creative License, where We (atleast me) do not know whether i can reuse it or remix it or not. you must be on Ibibo maling list on CC, (i am too) and daily you can read mail like Hey I am doing so, Can i do so... and mail start with INAL and TINLA statement and some times long debates like what exaclty is SA. Sorry Lawrence Lessig, we just want to live a simple life where we want to give away all right in legal manner so that anybody can remix/reuse it without any confusion but at the same time license must have provision that these freedom must be protected. I think Virality is the answer that is why there is a clause which says, any use/reuse of the work must be released under NPDL 1.0 license. Or we can says like changing this license is not allowed again I want a legal advice to do so. Ah, I think I get it now. You seem to be under the impression that the walls between different creations are a result of multiple licences. Not true. Instead, they are a consequence of different people wanting their content to be used in different ways. Some people want their content to carry viral terms (CC-SA co); some don't care what you do with their content (public domain); some don't care as long as you don't use it in a commercial product (CC-NC co). If your licence can make all these people think in the same way, more power to it! I have already wrote on this. There is a large category of user and newbies who even do not know what is the license and they exist all around in the world, you can find them on facebook too, all these want a most simple 1 liner license of sharing and remixing. Period. However, in my own opinion that is extremely unlikely (I'd say impossible but I'm an avatar of Napoleon Bonaparte) -- different people have different ideas, priorities and objectives, and they will need different licences to be able to express those ideas, priorities and objectives. To be short and consequently brutal: your licence only adds more confusion to the already confusing licensing scenario. My strong recommendation (which I believe anyone with an iota of licence experience behind them would concur with) is to withdraw it. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ network mailing list netw...@lists.fosscom.in http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Twitter Updates from SchoolOS
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: you might be interested in following the updates on SchoolOS - http://twitter.com/SchoolOS Please join SchoolOS Project and lets Install GNU/Linux at every Indian School if you send the updates to identi.ca I will follow you. I have made Twitterfeed accounts and now Identi.ca account is synced with twitter on. http://identi.ca/schoolos ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Twitter Updates from SchoolOS
2010/12/14 ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ் ramada...@amachu.net On 12/11/2010 01:58 AM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: you might be interested in following the updates on SchoolOS - http://twitter.com/SchoolOS there at identi.ca too? isn't it difficult for a single soul to manage thousand things.. Here it is - http://identi.ca/schoolos http://www.facebook.com/pages/SchoolOS/106713642728869 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial]: Jobs Opening At Muktware, Salary up to Rs 30K
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Abhijit Paul abhijit.choudhur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, If you are a freelance writer, blogger or journalist, this is your chance to work with Muktware in a complete FOSS fashion. *Salary/Payment:* Up To Rs 30,000 or $ 600 per month.* *Qualifications:* Good command over English and complete understanding of the FOSS technologies. Complete ? ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Twitter Updates from SchoolOS
you might be interested in following the updates on SchoolOS - http://twitter.com/SchoolOS Please join SchoolOS Project and lets Install GNU/Linux at every Indian School -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial] ELPA is here ! My Company and My Vision #nsisodiya
Here is the first and short blog on my first company *ELPA Technologies*. (no website). ELPA is an Indian Company, It is registered as Proprietary Firm for Hardware Software Sells and FLOSS consultancy. I am operating from Delhi and northern region. I initially trying to have a Non-profit structurehttp://schoolwiki.eduvid.in/en/index.php?title=Main_Pageand getting earning from it. but Now I have decided to have a fully for-profit company rather then depending on Grants/Donations from Govt or other things as in India getting money is not an easy task(at-least for me). Also more important I want to become independent so that I can do my RnD work in FOSS. Apart for giving training and consultancy to some security projects I am looking forward to service like pre-installed Linux Desktop and Laptop where you will get everything working perfectly+1 year service contract. Mass installation of Linux in school colleges etc. Same time I am looking for giving development of HTML5/ajax/ based application (because i don't want to loose my expert development skillset). There is a huge list of things which i can perform well.. *My vision is clear : To support FOSS/Linux as much as I can and getting money from it* right now, I have two office : Delhi (Malviya Nagar) Bhopal (Madhya Pradesh ). So If you have such kind of requirement in your company , college or startup then you ask for quotation. PS: I am already associate with many non-profit work, like l...@iitd, SchoolOS Its community development, Project Eduvid , fossjobs.in and many other things. These will not be affected as I will be working on these project too. I am making a strong commitment to give 20% resource (money, man-power etc) to all such community related projects. All those student who worked me for various projects can ask for certification now. New pool of student who want to learn Linux and develop foss project can contact me on my email id personally. PS: Those who want to get associated with ELPA, send me mail offline. Thanks -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
I want to start a Library for FOSS books, But the basic math says this is a difficult task.. A decent 3 room sized place will cost around 15,000 - 20,000 per month. a care taker with 5000 per month . total operational cost is 25,000 * 12 = 3 Lakh per annum. If we assume 3000 per annum as fee then I atleast need 300 student , (100 student per room :P ) So I want your feed back that what is the most suitable place in delhi where we can have maximum participation and How many student really turnup for this type of activity. Also, if I assume 30 student at 2000 per annum then this will yield 60,000/12 = 5000 per month. where I can find donations etc.. how this can feasible.. what is your thought on this. Also, do student or professional will prefer to enroll for such library where every book is available in pdf form in pirate-bay... IMO, many download a huge book on opensource or other topic but never read in pdf form. I see many guys to printout pdf and read. after 3-4 year we might see cheap 5000 INR ebook reader which are much similar to real book in look and feel. Also, student are only free on saturday/sunday. PS: Having a such platform will group together like minded guys and increase the foss community. Also there are many guys/gals like me who already have a small library at lab (appx 60+ technical book, most of them not read.) creating common place will save money of such guys/gals.. Having a dedicated space for hacking or other community oriented activity will be much useful. Thanks -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [lugj] CDE : EXE like package manager for GNU/Linux
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:28 AM, shreekant bohra skbohra...@gmail.comwrote: May be this is something everyone wanted, Narendra? http://www.stanford.edu/~pgbovine/cde.html http://www.stanford.edu/~pgbovine/cde.htmlCDE is a tool that automatically packages up the *C*ode, *D*ata, and *E*nvironment involved in running any Linux command so that it can execute identically on another computer without any installation or configuration. In short, an exe like package system for GNU/Linux Thanks Sri, There are many ways to do this task.. 1) RunZframework (Or superDeb) - http://hacktolive.org/w/index.php?title=RUNZ reading the code is still pending... but this looks same as my Debbundle Approach - http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/ expect that the Debbunde do not have GUI right now.. The next SchoolOS release will not be on DVD, It will be a very minimal version of Ubuntu/Fedora. One can download applications and then install it. How It work - *Step 1 -- Create Bundles --* If you look at the code http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/source/browse/trunk/Bundle_Creator It is just a single magic line sudo apt-get -o dir::cache::archives=$LocalDir install --download-only $ALLPACKAGES This single magic line download the $ALLPACKAGES in $LocalDir, For example if you want to install gtk-recordmydesktop then When you run this sudo apt-get -o dir::cache::archives=./gtk-recordmydesktop install --download-only gtk-recordmydesktop This is just like a installation, but instead of installing, It will download gtk-recordmydesktop package in given directory with all its dependency. After this all the pacakge will zipped. This is how a deb_bundle is created. you can take the deb_bundle file into another desktop and apply installer script on it. which just unzip the file and install all deb files. Now Imagine, when Ubuntu 10.10 is released then one of you can create VLC bundle Lets says VLC.xx.u1004.i386.deb_bundle This means VLC with xx version for u10.10 on i386 arch. These script help a lots but Deb_bundle have to created on Freshly Installed System Example, A freshly installed system do not have Package A and B. If you want to create Bundle for Package A and Package A depends on package B then creating a deb_bundle on Package A will include Package B. But If you have installed Package B and after that you create a bundle for Package A then this will not include package B. This will be there in next release of schoolos , Now What is Wrong about this process.. See this.. for every distro, for every version we have to create package.. Ex VLC.xx.u1004.i386.deb_bundle VLC.xx.u1010.i386.deb_bundle VLC.xx.u1104.i386.deb_bundle VLC.xx.f11.i386.deb_bundle VLC.xx.f12.i386.deb_bundle VLC.xx.f13.i386.deb_bundle VLC.xx.u1004.amd64.deb_bundle VLC.xx.u1010.amd64.deb_bundle VLC.xx.u1104.amd64.deb_bundle VLC.xx.f11.amd64.deb_bundle VLC.xx.f12.amd64.deb_bundle VLC.xx.f13.amd64.deb_bundle This looks messy but this is one step ahead with current packaging of deb or rpm because is zip all needed.. should i list up all the packages which are depends on VLC etc to give complete picture of messiness. Now What I am looking for and working at my little FOSS research Lab is the Distroless system Lets figure out how we can improve this. Instead of creating Deb_bundle for Ubuntu/fedora/debian etc... Lets create a dependency chart of ALL package of Ubuntu Repo or most used applications.. Now lets give dependency Index to each package. This way we can figure out the most dependent libraries and packages. Let customise this minimal system as a CoreLinux. So we can just ship the coreLinux to users. Now this will be having very few revision and we can create CoreLinux on Most stable Linux systems like Debian or RedHat/Centos.. After creating CoreLinux we can create application in two way. ## easy way ## Because CoreLinux is based on debian or redhat, we can still create deb_bundle and in this case, size of deb_bundles will be small.. group of volunteer can create deb_bundles in 10 days.. ## Difficult way ## On top of CoreLinux, we have to download the source code and other things and compile into one package which itself has dependencies.. I have blogged once - http://wiki.schoolos.org/index.php?title=Dream_Linux Student can get associated with me on the work because It is a fact that if more then one people work on a project and efficiency increase.. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] ILU - India Linux Users - New Facebook IRC
Hey, Facebook is making communities - Lots of Linux users are now interacting on facebook - Please Join and have a facebook IRC - http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_123580221032826ap=1 Lets discuss how we can use this new platform for Linux adaptation and promotion purpose -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting on 21st
just for reminder !! On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: Time : 21st Oct 2011, 5pm to 7pm Venue : Delhi Haat, Navdanya Stall ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Drupal Developer with 3.5 - 7 years of experience
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, ankIT WALiA ankitwali...@gmail.com wrote: Need 3.5 to 7 yrs Exp Drupal Developer in Capgemini for Bangalore location, Let me know if you are interested!Send me your Profiles ankitwali...@gmail.com 7 Years! That would be the time of Drupal 4.x. I wonder how that experience would even be relevant. :) person with 7 years experience will not do the job i think ! -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Dharna against Dreamspark
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: You may be correct in your context. But we have started our discussion for school and college education which must be delivered in via FOSS tools. This is an interesting discussion. I think Dreamspark evokes such a strong negative reaction from FOSS folks because - 1. It involves students (apparently, easily influenced). 2. It involves Micro$oft (the DeathStar of the software universe). So what do you guys think about - MS BizSpark? - Removing (1) from the above scenario. IBM Global Entrepreneurship? - Removing both (1) and (2) from above scenario. Now to play the devil's advocate, some, IMHO, pluses of the DreamSpark initiative - 0. Choice is always a good thing. 1. It allows students another alternative to software piracy. Piracy is the primary reason why Non FOSS are so popular in India. 2. It allows students who use Linux in everyday life to use a proprietary software to scratch an itch that cannot otherwise be scratched in the given time frame using FOSS. I'm thinking things like Matlab, Simulink, and Labview. And I'm speaking from experience that it is painful to cover their capabilities using FOSS (or atleast was during my college days) especially when you are an engineering student with too many things already on his hands. -- Anupam Sent using Gmail which ironically does not evoke as much of a negative reaction as a Blackberry. Lets come to the Topic - I have filed RTI - http://techrights.org/2010/10/21/aicte-challenged/ Lets decide a date for a silent protest. 1) Date ? 2) Venue ? -- infront of AICTE or Jantar Mantar etc ? How many student/foss-lovers are going to support this mission? -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Fwd: Ubuntu remixing workshop
-- Forwarded message -- From: Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com Date: Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM Subject: Ubuntu remixing workshop To: iitdlug iitd...@googlegroups.com I would Love to talk on ubuntu remixing and how you can contribute to SchoolOS by remixing and sending updates. http://wiki.schoolos.org/index.php?title=Workshop_on_Ubuntu_Remixing Please comment here or at wiki. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu remixing workshop
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I would Love to talk on ubuntu remixing and how you can contribute to SchoolOS by remixing and sending updates. http://wiki.schoolos.org/index.php?title=Workshop_on_Ubuntu_Remixing Please comment here or at wiki. Ubuntu remix workshop will be on 30 Oct 2010, 9.30 am to 1pm. venue will be announced. If somebody can host, it will be great ! we need wifi power. Facebook user can put RSVP on http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=104889212911088 Outsider of Facebook can directly mail me. Thanks ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Meeting on 21st
Dear All, We are going to have FOSS meetup on 21st Oct 2011 at CP Please discuss about the exact venue in CP and timing, I suggest for having 2 hour gathering from 5 to 7 in evening. We are now going to start a unique project. One of our friend has determined to start -- FOSS Jagrukta AbhiYan on Cycle. He want to go all over the India for next 4-5 years with his cycle and Linux Knowledge. So we need to discuss about issue and funding for the journey. We also need guys for uploading his daily journey and maintaining his website. So, Lets planout for a meeting on 21st at CP. Or any central location near to Metro. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting on 21st
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: Dear All, We are going to have FOSS meetup on 21st Oct 2011 at CP Please discuss about the exact venue in CP and timing, I suggest for having 2 hour gathering from 5 to 7 in evening. We are now going to start a unique project. One of our friend has determined to start -- FOSS Jagrukta AbhiYan on Cycle. He want to go all over the India for next 4-5 years with his cycle and Linux Knowledge. So we need to discuss about issue and funding for the journey. We also need guys for uploading his daily journey and maintaining his website. So, Lets planout for a meeting on 21st at CP. Or any central location near to Metro. PS: The He is going to start on 28st Oct -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting on 21st
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Gaurav Mishra gauravtec...@gmail.comwrote: Narendra, On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: Dear All, We are going to have FOSS meetup on 21st Oct 2011 at CP Please discuss about the exact venue in CP and timing, I suggest for having 2 hour gathering from 5 to 7 in evening. Sounds good , but any specific reasons to put on weekdays ? . Also, after 4:30 any metro line would be a havoc. On weekdays i would prefer something after 8 which can go anytime till late. Yes, but time is less. we have only 10 days to arrange everything and start this as campaign. We are now going to start a unique project. One of our friend has determined to start -- FOSS Jagrukta AbhiYan on Cycle. He want to go all over the India for next 4-5 years with his cycle and Linux Knowledge. So we need to discuss about issue and funding for the journey. We also need guys for uploading his daily journey and maintaining his website. Indeed a unique plan, but covering indian on cycle with a objective of spreading linux looks a little disconnected to me. Not sure of the outcome and objective. That is why we are trying for a meeting to discuss. So, Lets planout for a meeting on 21st at CP. Or any central location near to Metro. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Action Plan - for ACTE agreement
Lets now discussion. Do let me know who are going to support 4 hour silent protest at AICTE office? Please come forward and let me know your name. Also We will write a letter and handover to authority. If you can prepare poster then it will be great. Please drop me a mail. We are going to do this on weekdays between 10 am to 3 pm. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting on 21st
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: Dear All, We are going to have FOSS meetup on 21st Oct 2011 at CP Please discuss about the exact venue in CP and timing, I suggest for having 2 hour gathering from 5 to 7 in evening. We are now going to start a unique project. One of our friend has determined to start -- FOSS Jagrukta AbhiYan on Cycle. He want to go all over the India for next 4-5 years with his cycle and Linux Knowledge. So we need to discuss about issue and funding for the journey. We also need guys for uploading his daily journey and maintaining his website. Time : 21st Oct 2011, 5pm to 7pm Venue : Delhi Haat, Navdanya Stall -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting on 21st
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Piyush Kumar piyku...@gmail.com wrote: 2011 :) ... Narendra ... too advance... Time : 21st Oct 2011, 5pm to 7pm Venue : Delhi Haat, Navdanya Stall Thanks Piyush for correcting mistake. :) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Dharna against Dreamspark
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Angad Singh an...@angadsingh.in wrote: On 17-Oct-2010, at 11:54 AM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Anupam Jain said on Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 05:09:38AM +,: How is the brand of my cellphone relevant? If you are questioning my loyalty to free software, rest assured sir, I'm as much holding my breath for a mukt cellphone platform as anyone else on this mailing list. Brand ain't; but the software is. I think it doesn't make that much sense to just blindly promote free software. If proprietary software does the job better than free software in some areas, and the user gets more value (as perceived by him/her), then instead of patronising free software like a freedom movement, the parties writing the free software alternatives should try making their software better and give more value than the pro ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd prietary products. Again this is not a black and white thing. I may choose to use free software for some applications where it clearly excels and outbeats proprietary software and still use the proprietary software where there's no good free / open source software for my needs. I may be a complete linux freak and still be an iPhone/Blackberry user. It shouldn't be criticised against and if it should then please explain why. Sent from my iPhone You may be correct in your context. But we have started our discussion for school and college education which must be delivered in via FOSS tools. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Dharna against Dreamspark
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:46 PM, vinay singh vinnip...@gmail.com wrote: Dear FOSS lovers from Meerut. You know Meerut is a place where the first freedom revolution started in year 1857 so now its time for us to fight for software freedom. Meerut where there are more than 35 technical institutions its quite necessary for us to understand the importance of this software freedom and to simply reject the Dreamspark initiative of AICTE and M$. http://iftytech.posterous.com/dreamspark-or-dreamshatter I request for having a gathering and protest. Urgent action needed from NCR region including Meerut etc Shoud we decide to submit our protest infront of AICTE office. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:9818] Call for article for OPEN MINDS Annual newsletter of Jmilug .
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Sheel Sindhu Manohar sheel.lover...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, This is to inform you all that the *Linux User Group* of Jamia Millia Islamia is going to release its First version of Annual Newsletter .You are thereby requested to contribute and help make it a huge success . You can contribute by :- 1. Sending your articles entries . You can see blogs and website of lug-iitd sites. if you like something then use it LFY articles are available at CC domain , you are reuse them suresh and me and other are posting blogs on lug-iitd.posterous.com , You can reuse our blogs too. Do write about SchoolOS :) 2. Experiences related to any Linux event. 3. Any other write up which is indirectly or directly connected with Linux , Free Softwares , GNU or Open Source . 4. Photos , Reports , Awards and Achievements etc are also invited There is no minimum word limit but your article must not exceed 500 Words . The *last date* of sending us your entries is *20th October 2010* Please mention your :- - Name - About Your Occupation - Hompage , E-Mail Send entries on : openmi...@jmilug.org -- Sheel Sindhu Manohar http://www.roboture.in | शील सिन्धु मनोहरhttp://www.roboture.in Manager JMILUG website: www.jmilug.org -- SHEEL SINDHU MANOHAR Website: www.roboture.in Twitter: http://twitter.com/ssmanohar -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:9818] Call for article for OPEN MINDS Annual newsletter of Jmilug .
2010/10/8 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org On Friday 08 Oct 2010, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: LFY articles are available at CC domain , you are reuse them suresh and me and other are posting blogs on lug-iitd.posterous.com , You can reuse our blogs too. BTW, when you mention CC you also need to specify precisely which CC licence you are referring to. CC encompasses a whole gamut, from non- free to viral to public domain equivalents. lug-iitd.posterous.com is not under CC. They are public. However my blogs are CC-By-SA 3.0 which are located on my blog url. I do not know exact license of LFY article. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:9818] Call for article for OPEN MINDS Annual newsletter of Jmilug .
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Sheel Sindhu Manohar sheel.lover...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, This is to inform you all that the *Linux User Group* of Jamia Millia Islamia is going to release its First version of Annual Newsletter .You are thereby requested to contribute and help make it a huge success . You can contribute by :- 1. Sending your articles entries . You can see blogs and website of lug-iitd sites. if you like something then use it LFY articles are available at CC domain , you are reuse them suresh and me and other are posting blogs on lug-iitd.posterous.com , You can reuse our blogs too. Do write about SchoolOS :) You can consider reuse this article - - http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2010/10/why-and-how-indian-govt-can-get-huge.html Corrections are highly welcome as my English is not so good. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [fosscomm] INVITATION TO @rajasFOSS AS DELEGATE/SPEAKER
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Kishore Bhargava kish...@linkaxis.com wrote: Cross-posting: Anyone from IlUG-D able to go?? Yes, Niyam and I already confirmed ! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How to get wifi on visit to Delhi
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.comwrote: Do not understand where you got Our hotel (Regency Hayatt - not far from the tennis venue) has prohibitively expensive wifi internet. On several visits there I have always found free connectivity NO, its not free. it is appx 350 Rs per hour. I use to visit there very often. It connect automatically but when you try to visit any website, it ask for login/password/room-number etc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Invitation for 1 day Seminar on Software Patents and the Commons at 1 Setp 2010
Blog URL : * http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2010/08/invitation-for-1-day-seminar-on-patents.html * We are jointly holding the following event: *1st September, 2010, Lecture Hall, India International Center Annexe, New Delhi. * Organized by *Software Freedom Law Centre, Knowledge Commons and Center for Internet and Society. *Sponsored by *Red Hat.* Concept Note and Agenda : http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546366/Software-Patents-and-the-Commons-Concept-Note-and-Agenda Over the past few years, commons-based approaches have emerged as a significant source of knowledge creation and innovation. Today, Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) power 455 out of the top 500 supercomputers1 in the world, and almost 56 percent of the web servers on the Internet. Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia developed collaboratively by users around the world is today the most used reference material in the world. This one day seminar, Software Patents and the Commons will look at the broad issue of Commons versus Intellectual Property, and the specific issue of software patents, We have a number of experts with us including *Prof. Eben Moglen, Dr. Zaki Thomas, *Shri Madhukar Sinha, Shri T.C. James, etc. We hope you will be with us in the Seminar on Software Patents and the Commons. Best, Narendra Sisodiya Community Manager Knowledge Commons -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] FOSS meeting at Knowledge Commons Office - Sunday 29 August
Venue : Knowledge Commons Lower ground Floor, B-130, Shivalik, Malviya Nagar, Delhi Time : 3pm to 5pm Date : Sunday 29 August 2010 Free Wifi , Chips and Cold drinks, Meeting agenda * SchoolOS and its further development * Students projects and mentorship program at Knowledge Commons. * Technical Discussion about FOSS, standards and all tech-chatpat... * Whatever you like. Contact Persons : Narendra Sisodiya (9312166995) Directions to reach venue : it is 4 minute walkable from Sabka Bazar which is located at Shivalik Road 28.535750, 77.206784http://maps.google.co.in/maps?q=28.535750,+77.206784num=1sll=28.53471,77.207934sspn=0.006871,0.016512hl=enie=UTF8ll=28.53503,77.207934spn=0.006871,0.016512z=17iwloc=A +28° 32' 8.70, +77° 12' 24.42 Show on Google Mapshttp://maps.google.co.in/maps?q=28.535750,+77.206784num=1sll=28.53471,77.207934sspn=0.006871,0.016512hl=enie=UTF8ll=28.53503,77.207934spn=0.006871,0.016512z=17iwloc=A [image: Google Maps] -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] SchoolOS ISO Distributor
We do not have schoolos ISO distributor (basically facilitator) from north-east and various other states, I request you to become schoolOS ISO distributor. You can also host SchoolOS iso to central server at university. http://schoolos.org/get_iso.html http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/how-to-become-schoolos-iso-distributor -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need Linux Implementation Guys
2010/8/19 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org On Thursday 19 Aug 2010, saurabh vadhera wrote: I need Linux Implementation Guys for a Project Onsite in Singapore for a year (with handsome Salary in Dollars) . Please send me the Resumes and provide the lead time to join Thanks for posting the opening. For future reference, please be sure to mark all such posts to the list with the tag [COMMERCIAL] in the subject. + you can use fossjobs.in too. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need Linux Implementation Guys
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: 2010/8/19 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org Thanks for posting the opening. For future reference, please be sure to mark all such posts to the list with the tag [COMMERCIAL] in the subject. + you can use fossjobs.in too. Sorry to say this but I had a not so good experience with fossjobs.in My id was added in their database without my confirmation. If you id was added by somebody, then you will get email in your inbox. There will be a link by which you can edit/unpublish the details. My job postings on some lists were posted there without my knowledge. We cannot stop other to post. This is free for all. Most of the people responding from their reference were completely out of sync of my requirements. -Sudhanwa Hope you will get best soon, ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
2010/8/14 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org On Saturday 14 Aug 2010, Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: I dont care a damm for your comment. I know, you think you own this forum... you get irritated very fast when people take lead. You want that every people in this forum call you sir , sir... narendra sir. and when someone disagrees. I never told anybody to do so. I believe in equality. I guess everybody in this forum who are here to help with their knowledge believe so. Its a pity that people think there only one knowlegable in Delhi. Now I can laugh for whole day. Nishant, your response was in very poor taste, added no value to the conversation and reeked of communalism. Please stop abusing people who try to point that out to you, and try to give value back to the list. And, if you have nothing to say, please don't say it here. Regards, -- Raju +1 , logic PS: If the event is 'close for college' then why Sheel Shindhu have posted in forums. /logic PS: neither me or other ( i guess so) will respond to your email because it will be like playing with mud. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: H S Rai, yes, thats what i meant... REGION... i.e. are people from outside Delhi eligible or is it only for Delhites as the LUG is from there. Regards, Nishant Kashyap LOL. now you are playing with words. If this is true , you would have corrected yourself before that too. There are some member who have ready posted that all religion are accepted read Raj's mail Nishant, your response was in very poor taste, added no value to the conversation and reeked of communalism. You have not corrected yourself that time then why are you trying to correct now. you have committed mistake and you are not accepting it. Very few people reply mail but everybody read the mail. no need for any explanations, everybody knows what you have typed and what you have meant. My English and Grammer is bad. Even I can figure out what you have typed. You are not a noob/naive/2 year old bachchha , who mistyped region as religion and didn't corrected after reading it too many times. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: *** I do not want to play with mud. nor i am going to respond you. keep spamming. Think whatever you can, I have many useful task to do ! PS: This is my last post regarding 'this post' ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
