[ilugd] Protest against Section 69A and 69B of the IT-Act?

2009-06-15 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Does anyone know of organized (preferably mass) protests against Section 69A
and 69B of the IT-Act, 2009?

[1] http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/06/07/stories/2009060750090300.htm
[2] http://www.mit.gov.in/default.aspx?id=969

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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [FSUG-Bangalore] Boycott Novell Protesters Man-handled at National Conference on Free Software 2008

2008-11-16 Thread Saurabh Nanda
This is on Slashdot. Read the comments there-- one of the few times
they make sense.

If the protesters were on private property and were asked to leave by
the organizers, they should have. Basic respect for private property.

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[ilugd] [OT] Email archival without mailing list software

2008-10-30 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Read my thoughts at
http://nandz.blogspot.com/2008/10/email-archival-without-mailing-list.html
-- does anyone know of something similar that exists already?

Related post at
http://nandz.blogspot.com/2008/10/in-support-of-top-posting.html (in
support of top posting to cover up the lack of email archival).

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Re: [ilugd] { Announcement/Invitation } General Meeting cum Discussion on Software Patents at IIT Delhi at 24 oct 2008

2008-10-22 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Whoever wants to argue about the efficacy of software patents should
make it a point to read this essay by Paul Graham before forming &
voicing strong opinions:

http://www.paulgraham.com/softwarepatents.html

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Re: [ilugd] Any experiences with Acer Aspire One?

2008-08-30 Thread Saurabh Nanda
I would advise everyone to not buy any Acer notebook. Their build
quality sucks. And believe me, you might think that build quality does
not matter, but for notebooks it does -- you'll realize it later. The
mousepad of my Acer laptop[1] started misbehaving within 2 months of
purchase. Today, after 3 years of sparse usage (mostly lying around at
home) I find out that the keyboard has started misbehaving too.

Don't even get me started on the battery. Even when it was brand new,
I never got more than 1h 15m of battery backup.

Moral: DON'T buy Acer.

[1] TravelMate 4061NWLCi

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Re: [ilugd] Conversation view (like GMail) in Evolution

2008-07-22 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> I guess you mean the thread view, you just have to enable that view ->
> group by thread



I think I already have that on. The difference between a conversation view
and a thread view is that the former also shows the mails sent be you in the
same "tree"

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[ilugd] Conversation view (like GMail) in Evolution

2008-07-22 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Is it possible? Is there a plugin, which can help me achieve this?

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Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)

2007-12-30 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>  But the final insight only
> came after grovelling through the Javascript code on the page.
> It takes a reasonable amount of time and effort, but at the end of it
> you usually know exactly what is wrong. For the record, I have
> successfully used Iceweasel/Firefox 2.0 for both Netbanking and the
> payment gateway.

Wow! Did you document it anywhere? If not, do you remember what the
problem was and how you fixed it? Can you document it now? I can try
to write a small userscript to fix the error.

Thanks for the link to Firefox 1.5

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Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)

2007-12-30 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Couldn't test on RHEL 5;on Windows, ICICI Direct says: *Transaction Password
> is incorrect*.

Hmmm, interesting. Why is this happening with me? Consistently. And
not only my account - one more person has tried from my browser with
the same result.

What's your exact browser id string? Mine is --  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.11
(Ubuntu-feisty)

PS: If you find the time, please test it on RHEL as well.

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Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)

2007-12-30 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Don't remember *b), *but definitely for *a) *I didn't have problem* *on
> Firefox 2.0 (on both Windows & RHEL ).

Could you please do small favour? Can you try entering a _wrong_
transaction password and see if the site gives you an appropriate
error or summarily times out your session?

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[ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)

2007-12-30 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

Has anyone been able to successfully transact on the ICICI Netbanking
website using Firefox 2.0. By transact I mean able to transfer funds,
etc. Basically anything that requires:

(a) your transaction password to be entered, or
(b) the debit card grid verification to be performed).

My session has consistently been timed out immediately after (a) above.

While Googling around, I came across a forum where someone claimed
that due to a JS error the session times out in Firefox 2.0, but the
site works on Firefox 1.5.

Does anyone know where I can get a Firefox 1.5 package (or tarball)
for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. I've been trying to search for it, but in
vain.

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Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Please do
> remember that Freed.in is what the community wants it
> to be, so if you do not like the change of focus, please
> be at the meeting, and make yourselves heard.

This focus on "what the community wants", in my opinion, does not
always work. There are things which need to be driven by a single
person or a small core team based on their personal convictions.
Everything can't be a decision by committee.

All those who're harping about the inappropriateness about the new
direction of Freed on the mailing list (me included) will probably not
work as much (or not work at all) in running around to get stuff
organized. So why let them take control of the decision? (which would
mean giving them a vote in the meeting -- if it comes to that)

The core team can listen to everyone's view, and execute only what
they themselves are convinced about. Not some fuzzy "community" trying
to drive stuff by proxy using video conferencing and IRC.

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Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008

2007-12-26 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> [As noted by Raj, this discussion should move to the Freed
>  mailing list (copied on this message). All future follow-ups
>  there.]

How do I subscribe to it? The Freed 2008 wiki has no link to the
mailing list web interface. The Freed 2007 link (at
http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Freed2007/TakingPart)
doesn't work.

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Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Plan for Freed.in 2008

2007-12-26 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> If you look at our country (and probably most developing countries), you
> will see that the fundamental issues relate to availability of
> knowledge, not availability of software.

>  Posting free CDs of
> Linux to people who don't have the computers to run them on won't help
> in any of these areas -- software isn't the whole solution, it's just
> part of it.

Exactly. This whole thing about the "knowledge economy" is not
necessarily about software. Its about mind sets. It's the same mind
set that is required to get an RTI act into effect. Sure, the RTI act
is more effective if the information dissemination is not through
individual applications and replies -- but it still works without the
software.

> So where is that huge fund of knowledge that is lying with the
> individuals of India?  Can I access it?  Can I use it?  Can I enhance
> it?  No, since it's hidden away in the minds and collective wisdom in
> villages and small towns, whose people do not have any means available
> for expressing that wisdom and sharing it with the rest of the world.
> One of freed.in's goals at this event is to discuss ways forward for
> enabling the free collection and dissemination of knowledge, no matter
> where in this country or in the developing world it exists.

At the risk of oversimplification: Today's society and economy is
hinged upon the availability of knowledge. Digital technologies have
proven to be an effective way for sharing such knowledge. Digital
technologies are not available to most of India (especially rural
parts). Is Freed.in about bridging this digital divide?

> Finally, to answer the question you raised raised at the end of your
> first para, knowledge that is hidden away in a proprietary format, no
> matter how prevalent the format or how high the quality of the
> knowledge, is useless in the new paradigm IMNSHO.

No. In fact, I said that knowledge needs to be stored in open formats
and transmitted using standard (open) protocols. That's necessary.
What's not necessary is that the *tools* required to manipulate these
formats be free and open source. For example, a Wiki developed in .Net
and deployed on Microsoft Server 2k with IIS as the web server is
still a Wiki. It will achieve the purpose of knowledge sharing in the
same way a Twiki on LAMP does.

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Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008

2007-12-26 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi Gora,

I have attended only one Freed (it was called Freedel at that point)
and the focus seems to have shifted quite a bit since that time (open
source s/w focused event to a more "social revolution" kind of event).
Therefore, please read my comments in that context -- most of them may
be emanating from the fact that the new direction doesn't fit my
notion of the event.

1. How does a focus on the "Knowledge Ecosystem" tie in with open
source software? It surely ties in with open standards (and file
formats), but not necessarily with free/open source software. However,
freed.in may focus on the use of open source software in helping
create the knowledge system - which is absolutely fine. Except that
(a) this is not stated anywhere explicitly in the document, and (b)
not all content can be managed properly with open source s/w as of
now.

2. The term "Knowledge Ecosystem" can mean different things to
different people. I've read the document carefully, it does not define
what "knowledge ecosystem" means to the organizers of the event in
clear concise terms. I think that's important. Also, knowledge can
impact lots of aspects of our lives. It would be good to list a few of
them, which Freed is planning to focus upon. From the tone of the
document, education and government seemed to be the primary focus, but
again, helps to be explicit.

3. What does section 1.3 mean? How do you plan to achieve the tangible
goals listed out in this section through Freed.in? Wouldn't achieving
these goals require a lot more sustained effort than a 3 day event?
Section 2.4 answers this question partially, but I'm still a bit
skeptical. Also, from a document writing perspective, portions of the
text of section 2.4 should be contained in section 1.3 to make things
more obvious.

4. Pardon me, but IMHO, most of section 3.1 offers nothing concrete to
the user. It simply adds to the sense of vagueness. It should probably
be removed and replaced by a succinct definition of the term
"Knowledge Ecosystem" and be moved to somewhere in section 1 itself.

5. This might be my ignorance, but what role do open source licenses
(as defined by OSI) play in creating and sharing knowledge? (Also, the
link to OSI http://opensource.org opens a website wildly different
from http://www.opensource.org!)

As an overall comment, the document needs to be more specific.
Probably you're expecting community feedback to flesh out the details.
But in my opinion, the overall vagueness (and too many buzzwords)
hampered my in offering any useful feedback.

Making the document shorter and adding a one line "mantra" (v/s a
mission and vision statement) about Freed should help people
understand the overall context. And get the ideas flowing.

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Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux & FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) & formation of College LUG

2007-12-13 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Now would you as an individual not use ICICI simply because its ATM
> service is based on Microsoft's software?

Incorrect analogy. You should not be comparing an individual's choice
in selecting the bank. You should be comparing the banks choice in
selecting the ATM vendor/technology. If the IT honchos at ICICI feel
that end-to-end integration with their internal systems is best
achieved if ATM services are outsourced to a vendor having ".Net
technology" then they are free to choose any vendor. No one is forcing
them to choose a vendor whose technology is based on Linux.

OR they can use their clout and leverage their bargaining position to
force a vendor to custom develop a technology for them in .Net, if one
is not available already.

If you *have* to compare in individuals choice in choosing a bank
based on their IT infrastructure, then yes, I do select a bank whose
net-banking works in Firefox -- because that matters to me. If
tomorrow none of the banks' site works in Firefox then I don't have
the negotiating power to force them to develop one.

The same logic may apply if someone is so touchy about ATM software --
which IMHO is highly unlikely.

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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: OOXML: Your action is required: Contact BIS now!

2007-12-11 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Does anyone know what happened? Dec 11 (yesterday) was when the reps had to
be announced.

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Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux & FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) & formation of College LUG

2007-12-10 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> you might find the laugh being at your expense, when you realise that
> its an outsourced service.


I don't think so. Large corporations have strict guidelines and
specifications that their vendors need to follow. These may include:

* software with exact version
* coding guidelines
* documentation guidelines
* brand guidelines for logo placements, selection of fonts, selection of
colours etc. (Microsoft has a 3kg glossy printed book detailing each one of
these)

So, Microsoft, theoretically, has full control over what their vendors do.
It's a different matter, that in this case they're not exercising it,

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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: OOXML: Your action is required: Contact BIS now!

2007-12-06 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> You can make a difference and call now BIS at +91-1123237991 and help
> us to find out:
>
>  a. Who will represent BIS on DIS 29500 at the Ballot
> Resolution Meeting in Geneva?



Did anyone call BIS? Any information on who will be representing our country
and what their background is?

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Re: [ilugd] Revoking/Objecting to Software Patents in Indian Patent Office

2007-10-03 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> A group of people started this group to look into this matter.  Could those
> of you who are interested join in this group and contribute, so that
> together we can do something.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the info, Nagarjuna.

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Latest bug from M$

2007-09-27 Thread Saurabh Nanda
An attempt by Joel Spolsky to explain the Excel bug:

http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/09/26b.html

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Re: [ilugd] Adding an image to Disclaimer on Outgoing e-mails

2007-09-25 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>  The final email shows up
> correctly in KMail and Thunderbird with the image  being displayed
> after the disclaimer text, but not so in M$ Outlook. Well it comes as
> an attachment on M$ Outlook.

You might want to read the following blog post.
http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/604-navigating-the-html-email-jungle

An excerpt:
"As I type this post I still can't believe it. I'm literally stunned.
If you haven't already heard, I'm talking about the recent news that
Outlook 2007, released next month, will stop using Internet Explorer
to render HTML emails and instead use the crippled Microsoft Word
rendering engine."

An easy solution is to simply send an email from Thunderbird with an
inline image and see if it opens properly in Outlook. If it does, just
view the source and make sure your python script is generating
*exactly* the same source. I've noticed that random stuff like not
putting angular brackets  around the inline part name also
causes some mail clients to barf.

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[ilugd] Revoking/Objecting to Software Patents in Indian Patent Office

2007-09-25 Thread Saurabh Nanda
http://spicyipindia.blogspot.com/2007/09/spicyip-tidbits_23.html

India, prima facie, does not allow pure software patents or business method
patents. But that doesn't stop companies from trying. The Indian Patent
Office is already being flooded with the patents described as "A web based
system to do XYZ" or "A computer system in conjunction with XY to do Z"

With no one opposing them (and not enough noise about this, like in the case
of pharma patents), there's a high probability that this would get granted.
Does anyone know of a concerted effort to keep this kind of cruft out from
our country? Any pointers?

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Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-11 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do
> unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL
> applies to M$ patents!!!



The clause refering to a royalty-free, non-discriminatory, licence to use
any applicable patents is in GPLv3 and not GPLv2, IIRC.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-07 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> Time and again, there have been expressions on this list that
> management decisions in ILUG-Delhi are taken behind closed doors.
> While I personally feel that ILUG-D is among the most open
> organisations that I have been a part of, and strongly resent such
> implications, there must be some truth behind this, as it has been
> expressed by many people.


Hey Gora,

I think it might simply be a case of 'do-ers' making the decisions. Which is
good.

If you

(a) turn up for most of the meetings,
(b) give a hand in organizing events (especially Freedel),
(c) are an active face,

your opinions should obviously have more weightage in the community rather
than some lurker on the mailing list hell bent upon discussing pros and cons
of GPL/BSD or Emacs/Vi or (insert favourite flame war here).

Don't get bogged down by too much process. Get stuff done. Period.

PS: Before I get flamed, there will always be cases when active people
couldn't make it to a meet where decisions were taken, and they want to
debate it on the list. I think everyone is sane enough to listen to the
valid points on the list and alter decisions if it makes sense.

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Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-04 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> we should always emphasize that fighting for freedom is a lifelong process
> -
> as they say "Fighting to get freedom is not enough, we have to keep
> fighting
> forever to preserve it".


that's why the name "Free-d" -- as in daemon (aka ftpd, telnetd, sshd). So
it keeps waking up in intervals, fights for freedom, and goes to sleep :)

Sorry. Couldn't stop myself :P

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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Choice of scripting language on http://courtnic.nic.in

2007-02-13 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Mahesh,

Did you get a reply for this?

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[ilugd] Kernel 2.6.15 and DEVFS

2006-01-31 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

I'm on Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) and have custom installed the vanilla
kernel version 2.6.15-1 -- I needed it for the SiS190 NIC driver.

I couldn't find DEVFS anywhere in the kernel configuration menu. Adding the
following lines to the '.config' file didn't work:

CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y
CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y

[I had picked up these lines from the config file of the standard Ubuntu
kernel v2.6.12-9]

Has devfs support been withdrawn from the kernel?

While booting I get a lot of error messages regarding devfs not being
mounted, but apparently my system is working perfectly. Will I face any
problem without devfs on Ubuntu?

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Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format

2006-01-17 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> I am ready to shed my pockets for my emails, but i want someone real
> expert who can do it. Is anyone of you know a real linux recovery expert?
> Also, how much will he charge??


If e-mails (text only) is your primary concern I *think* the following
solution might work:

o You have run mke2fs on the corrupted partition
o I am assuming that you have not yet written any fresh data on that
partition
o Which means that your data is still on the disk but is not logically
organized in files and directories anymore
o Run the following command on the partition and sift through *large*
volumes of data to recover your mail

root# cat /dev/hda7|strings|less

Disclaimer: Please don't blame me if this doesn't work. In case it does,
just pass on the 'pocket shedding' this side :-)

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[ilugd] Linux and Laptops -- Help required

2006-01-11 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

I'm planning to purchase a laptop, which would be my new Linux box. I have a
lot of questions which I am listing below. It would be great if anyone could
help me with them -

o I read some articles about Linux running into troubles with Intel Centrino
based laptops -- especially the WLAN card. Can someone give me a first hand
account?
o Other factors remaining the same, there's a difference of about Rs 10k
between Celeron-M and Centrino based laptops. Is the gain in performance
worth the cost?
o AMD Sempron Mobile or Celerom-M?
o AMD Turion-64 or Centrino?
o Other than the Acer Aspire series, are there any AMD based laptops
available in India?
o From where can one get Lenovo R-Series in India? I couldn't find them on
the website.
o Acer, Compaq, Zenith, Lenovo, Dell -- any first hand experiences wrt
reliability, after-sales support, etc?
o Any specific recommendations or reviews of the laptop(s) that you have
purchased

I've read quite a few opinions online but most of them do not mention the
specific models available in India, or do not address the Linux
compatibility issue at all.

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Re: [ilugd] Book Stores selling Linux Books

2005-12-16 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> you mean you succeeded in actualy *buying* a book from them? I
> salute you

I tried "Dial-A-Book" (or something like that)... I called them up
every f*cking day for two weeks and the standard response used the be
- "The store house/godown has not released the book. It should be
released by tomorrow morning. You'll get it tomorrow afternoon!"

I finally took the hint.

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Re: [ilugd] DNS setting for the DNS-Server :- How to resolve any request to a Fixed IP address

2005-12-12 Thread Saurabh Nanda
The hostnames that you're referring to (Google, Yahoo, etc) have
multiple IP addresses. Any one of those IP addresses (randomly
selected) is returned each time you query a public DNS server. This is
a method for balancing the load amongst multiple servers. Why do you
then want to use only one IP address?

Anywho.. if you've set your mind to it - here's the solution that will
work on  your local machine:

Edit /etc/hosts and add the following lines to it. These are actual IP
addresses of Yahoo/Google. You may use different ones if you like.

www.google.com 66.102.7.104
www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.48

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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: ILUG-D: Contact Us

2005-12-12 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> I don't quite get the concept of coming to India for a RHCE boot-camp,
> but in any case you are welcome. An ILUG-D meet is tentatively
> scheduled for Christmas day, the 25th. Mary or somone else can
> confirm. You are also welcome to visit Sarai/CSDS, 29 Rajpur Road,
> (phone: 23960040) during your visit. We specialize in catering to
> oddballs.
>

Isn't this a little offensive? Probably you meant well... but the way the
mail is worded makes it seems like the poor fellow is least welcome!

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Re: [ilugd] Problem: Connecting Reliance Terminal phone

2005-11-23 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi Sudev,

> Pointer and help needed urgently.

I had an LG 350R (I think) and used the serial cable (available from
nehru place for 200 bucks) to connect the phone to the comp. It worked
like a breeze... no stupid usb->serial conversion or the like!

One thing though - check the data settings of your phone. It should be
set to "USB Modem" if you want to use it like one, or should be set to
one of the available baud rates if you want to use it as a serial
modem. Also change the data settnigs to "Modem Only" or "Modem for
Next" to be sure. Failing to do so, might result in the modem not
being detected by the OS.

One advice - dump Reliance - it's *dead* slow. You'll end up wasting
your money. Go for a decent broadband (like Airtel).

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Re: [ilugd] Isn't it ironical?

2005-10-17 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Yes, donate to Vishwakarma!  I need Rs. 35 crore urgently!

'Vishwakarma' - who/what is that?

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Re: [ilugd] Isn't it ironical?

2005-10-17 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> >If I may ask, are you a subscriber to our publication? Are you too helping
> >to keep us in business? I would be glad to think so.

Interesting question :-)

Which reminds me - has any of us ever donated to any open source
project? Coders need money too!

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Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu

2005-10-12 Thread Saurabh Nanda
And that reminds me - check the status of the printer using CUPS.
Sometimes these HP printers 'stop' on their own... I had a nasty time
with them.

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Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu

2005-10-12 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> *Are you suggesting that I do this*
> cat /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1005.dl > /dev/usb/lp0

Simply issue the command given above once you plug-in the printer, and
hotplug detects/initializes that a USB printer has been plugged-in.
After you uploaded the firmware the printer should make some whirring
noises and some LEDs should blink. If that is happening you are on the
right track - you simply need to get the software/application level
drivers working.

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Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu

2005-10-12 Thread Saurabh Nanda
I had successfully set up an HP Laserjet 1000 some time ago. You need
to download the firmware and 'cat' it to the device whenever you plug
the printer in (or switch it on). The printer will not function
otherwise. Instead of manually uploading the firmware each time - you
can set up hotplug to automatically do it for you.

To top it of, IIRC, the firmware has been removed from all official HP
download channels. Try searching for lj1000.exe (or a similar sounding
filename) on Google to see if someone else has put the firmware up for
download.

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Re: [ilugd] Giving up on scratched CDs and ejecting mounted CDs

2005-09-27 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> # considering your cdrom is mounted somewhere on /mnt/cdrom
> lsof | grep cdrom
>
> kill -9 

I've tried killing the process (say cp) but that doesn't solve the
problem. I'll try this as well.

But even this solution is a workaround! The CD driver should give up
after some time and throw an error!

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Re: [ilugd] Giving up on scratched CDs and ejecting mounted CDs

2005-09-27 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Because the VFS would be unhappy if mounted media suddenly disappeared
> from under it (and was potentially replaced with something different).
> That applies to all mounts, not just CDs.

But doesn't the VFS already handle such situations with USB pen drives
and to some extent with network file systems as well?

--- Abhijit's Reply ---
> But doesn't the VFS already handle such situations with USB pen drives

No. Hotplug handles such things, not the VFS, and that's a comparatively
recent development. If you could write something that generated hotplug
events when you closed or opened the CD tray, I suppose you could make
it do the right thing.

subfs takes a different approach, but has much the same effect.


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[ilugd] Giving up on scratched CDs and ejecting mounted CDs

2005-09-27 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

Firstly, could anyone please tell me what's the philosophy behind
'locking' the CD-ROM tray when a CD has been mounted. Why can't I
eject a mounted CD? Additionally, is there some way with which I may
eject mounted CDs?

Secondly, when the kernel encouters an I/O error while accessing a
scratched CD, when does it give up? Why does it keep trying to access
the scratched portion again & again, thus effectively hanging the
process which initiated the read. Even when the initiating process is
killed, the kernel keeps trying to access the CD drive. Thus, one
can't unmount the CD cuz it's supposedly busy, and one can't eject the
CD cuz it's mounted. The only solution being a reboot.

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Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux

2005-09-26 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> * Disable all unnecessary services,

Yes... That's THE most important factor why linux on the desktop runs
slow... you probably dont need portmap, atd, sendmail, sshd, etc.
etc stop service you don't need!

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Re: [ilugd] Question about the ILUGD society

2005-09-25 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> We got registered as ``Linux Users Group''.  I don't know how the
> erstwhile BLUG managed to get Bangalore into their name -- expecting
> consistency from Government of India is like expecting a hungry tiger
> to pass over an available deer out of compassion :)

Is the registration country-wide? It's strange that, before us, there
wasn't a society called "Linux User's Group" all througout India.

Also, if we've got registered as "Linux User's Group" - BLUG would
need the "Bangalore" in their name to differentiate themselves, iff
the registration is country-wide.

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Re: [ilugd] Question about the ILUGD society

2005-09-25 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>  Ask BLUG guys. We were refused teh name citing that
> "Delhi" can be used for special cases only requirin
> clearance from higher authorities.

So what is the ILUG-D society officially called?

It could be that Delhi, being the country's capital, is not given out
to any and everybody!

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Re: [ilugd] Where is the community?

2005-09-23 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Watching for this thread to continue with interest. Is this not like
> all the people who are for democracy but are not willing to do
> anythingon their own to bring it about? Rise up and numbers will sway
> the tide of thought.

Out of curiosity - how many people from Delhi (or ILUG-D for that
matter) are planning to go to B'lore for foss.in (or would've gone if
it would have not been promoting proprietary software)?

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Re: [ilugd] Changing widget fonts in Openoffice.org (and other font issues)

2005-09-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Forget it... some problem with the installation of msttcorefonts
package. I reinstalled it and everything got fixed automagically
no more sucky OO.org!

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Re: [ilugd] postgres optimisation

2005-09-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Would anyone be interested in a PostgreSQL optimisation talk? At, say,
> the next monthly meeting?

Would PostgreSQL opimizations differ a lot from MySQL optimization?

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Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)

2005-09-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Quoting a reply I got on the Debian Users Mailing List:

--- BEGIN ---
You need the FreeType perl module. Go to http://packages.debian.org,
use the search form at the bottom of the page, and enter "Freetype.pm".
The result will tell you which package to install.

After installing the package you need to rerun defoma-hints (redirect
the output to your hints file in /etc/defoma/hints). Check the
resulting file. If everything looks okay, run defoma-reconfigure to
apply the new configuration file.
--- END ---

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[ilugd] Changing widget fonts in Openoffice.org (and other font issues)

2005-09-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

Currently Openoffice.org on my computer looks like this:
http://static.flickr.com/30/45386679_aa222327e5_o.png

I find the font on the menus/widgets rather hard to read. How can I
change it to something like Arial?

Also, I have Arial installed on my system (msttcorefonts) - Firefox is
able to use it, why isn't it visible in Openoffice.org? How do I make
Openoffice.org use the 'system-wide' intalled fonts?

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Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)

2005-09-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> for anyother fonts , copy under /usr/share/fonts for systemwide usage
> or  ~/.fonts for local usage.

Won't i have to issue a ttmkdir (or something similar) command after
copying the fonts to /usr/share/fonts?

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Re: [ilugd] Installing individually downloaded debian packages

2005-09-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Got it...

# dpkg -i package-name.deb

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Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)

2005-09-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> In short, that doesn't sound *AT ALL* like what you should be using to
> install a TrueType font.
> 
> Perhaps you should follow the instructions on the web page instead.

Hmm...

How come all the fonts installed on my system appear as symlinks in
/var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d ?

Btw - if  you feel Defoma is not the correct way, do you know any
other way to install fonts 'system-wide'?

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[ilugd] Installing individually downloaded debian packages

2005-09-20 Thread Saurabh Nanda
# Short Question:
How do I install a debian package which I've (manually) downloaded. I
don't have a net connection so I can't use apt-get or something
similar to fetch an entire package list and then install the package.

# Long story:
I trashed my Reliance connection and subscribed to Airtel DSL
broadband. I have an NFORCE motherboard. So I downloaded the Linux
drivers on a friend's comp and wrote them on to a CD. When I tried
installing the drivers on my comp it couldn't find the kernel headers.
So I went over to my friend's comp again and downloaded the kernel
headers (strangely, the kernel's image was present on my 9 CD sarge
set, but the headers and source were not). Now, I want to install this
debian package that contains the kernel headers on my system. Which in
turn will enable me to compile my ethernet card's driver, which in
turn will enable me to get online!

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Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)

2005-09-20 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Say, did you know that the first result on Google for "XFree86 TrueType
> fonts" is a page titled "TrueType Fonts on Debian XFree86 4.x Systems"?

And it does not mention 'defoma' anywhere!

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Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)

2005-09-20 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> So install FreeType.pm

Which package is supposed to have it? And, why should this file
suddenly disappear?

I had installed the msttcorefonts package which is a collection of
truetype fonts. All of them have installed correctly, apparently
without FreeType.pm

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[ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)

2005-09-20 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

I've downloaded Akshar.ttf (unicode hindi font) and want to install it
'system-wide', i.e. all applications installed on the system should be
able to use it.

I tried using 'defoma' (DEbian FOnt MAnager) to install the font, but
have not been successful. Here's what I did:

# mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/indian
# cp Akshar.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/indian
# defoma-font register truetype Akshar.ttf

Then I looked in /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/A but the symlink for
Akshar.ttf was not there.

I read through the manpage of defoma-font and figured out that a 'font
hint' was required. This is what I did:

#defoma-hints truetype Akshar.ttf
Wait for second...
defoma-hints Can't locate FreeType.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4
/usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 2.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$locate FreeType.pm

Can anyone help me out?

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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu CD from Freedel

2005-09-17 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Yes, ubuntu doesnt believe creating a separate root user is worth the risk of
> it being compromised.

Wha? What the? 

> 1. Use 'sudo command' to run a command with root priviledges.
> 2. Use 'sudo su -' to get a root shell.

Doesn't 'sudo' ask for a root password? I got the following when I
tried running sudo:

--- BEGIN ---
We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.

Password:
--- END ---


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Re: [ilugd] Xv, Mplayer problem on Debian

2005-09-10 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> 
> MPlayer does not detect the Xv extension at all!
> 

Don't bother - I figured it out - one needs to have the Xv Development 
package installed as well!

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[ilugd] Xv, Mplayer problem on Debian

2005-09-10 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

I am trying to compile MPlayer on my Debian machine but am running into a 
problem with the "xv" video output driver. 

MPlayer does not detect the Xv extension at all!

Checking for Xv ... no
> Checking for XvMC ... no
> 

I cheched whether I had th Xv extension on my machine at all, and it indeed 
was there.

/usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1.0
> 

I checked out my XF86Config file, but could not find any section related to 
configuration of the Xv extension.

I checked out the XFree86 log, only to find the following:

(II) Loading extension XVideo
> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
> 

Any solutions to the problem?

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Re: [ilugd] Running Webserver from home

2005-09-08 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Saurabh can you plz mention the mailing list .

It's a closed mailing list of members of an admin team @ IITK
maintaing a host of public services (Wiki, FTP indexing, DNS, etc.)

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Re: [ilugd] Running Webserver from home

2005-09-08 Thread Saurabh Nanda
I asked something related to Airtel broadband on a different mailing
list and I'm appending snippets of conversation that ensued. Some of
this information might help you:

- BEGIN SNIPPET #1 -
> How do you make Airtel work?

The DSL router sits between the POTS splitter and the NIC on your machine.
You get a small CAT5 and plug one end into the router and the other end into
your NIC. The router becomes your gateway now. It has an internal IP and the
external IP is dynamic (probably Radius'ed). The internal IP is configurable of
course but it's set to some default initially so that you can log in
to it and do
whatever.
- END SNIPPET #1 -


- BEGIN SNIPPET #2 -
> Rs 500 has non-refundable installation charges and an additional Rs
> 100 per month as rental for the modem is it worth it? The sales 
> executive said that the connection is shared and that I wont, ever,
> get the claimed 128 Kbps.


I paid around 2000 as deposit + installation charges last September.
The standard
modem rental rate is Rs. 99/- pm. Go for a router instead at Rs. 199/-
pm. Actually
I'm planning to buy the router from them now because I've been paying 199 every
month for 12 months now and the routers they're giving out now are pretty stupid
(but still better than the modem option definitely). When I got my
connection I got
a ZyXEL router - a very good model with easy configurability.

The site says it's a 1:2 DSL meaning it's shared. Now theoretically,
DSL can never
be shared because it works over your landline which means it's private
to you. What this basically means is that (and probably the
salesperson doesn't know it) there's a main line which is split such
that every customer receives 128 kbps. I don't understand how else
I've been getting 100% b/w on both u/l and d/l consistently day-in and
day-out. After the upgrade to 256 kbps, any wget download off even a
reasonably good server (any Gentoo mirror for instance) gives me a
consistent 30 kBps which equates to 240 kbps of the promised 256 kbps.
Considering that Airtel uses PPP over ATM (lot of overhead) this is
very very good indeed. The uploads don't come upto 30 kBps, but that's
probably because no one pulls from me at 30 kBps consistenly.

The best way for you to check things out would be to visit a neighbour who has a
DSL connection and try some wgetting. With my DSL there's no such
thing as peak and off-peak time so you can try anytime you want.
- END SNIPPET #2 -


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[ilugd] PPP vs Ethernet vs PPPoE

2005-09-08 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

I've been trying to read up on PPP and have got myself into a confused
mess. Most of the information that I've gathered is from Wikipedia.

So here goes...
 
# From Wikipedia: "The Point-to-Point Protocol, or PPP, is commonly
used to establish a direct connection between two nodes"

Suppose I'm using a dialup line. The modem 'dials into' my ISP's
server and establishes a connection. Effectively, isn't this a
one-to-one direct connection? Can't I have a simple script which does
the following as soon as the modem has 'dialled into' the ISP's
server:

1. Change my machine's IP addresss to a pre-determined IP address
(probably provided by the ISP when I purchased the net connection)
2. Change the routing rules to route all outgoing network traffic
through a pre-determined IP address (the IP address of the server
which I've just dialled into)
3. And finally, change /etc/resolv.conf

As soon as the modem disconnects, another script could bring all the
network configuration back to the original state.


# From Wikipedia: "PPP was designed to work with several network layer
protocols, such as IP, IPX and AppleTalk..."

As per my understanding, PPP is simply a 'wrapper' protocol. Given two
nodes connected to each other using a single link (cable, connection
media, whatever), PPP may be used for communicating using multiple
protocols at the same time. i.e., under normal circumstances, only one
of IP or IPX may be used, at any given time. However, by using PPP,
both IP and IPX, can be multiplexed.

 
# From Wikipedia: "PPPoE, point-to-point protocol over Ethernet, is a
network protocol for encapsulating PPP frames in Ethernet frames."

If I understand this correctly, Ethernet works a layer below PPP. Why
would PPP frames be encapsulated in Ethernet frames? Shouldn't it be
the exact opposite? Additionally, since PPP encapsulates IP, IPX,
etc., out of which (at least) IP datagrams can be sent 'inside'
Ethernet frames (the way a 'normal' LAN work), why would anyone want
to use PPPoE?
 
Any answers to these questions? Or pointers to where I can read up
stuff written in plain English?
 
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Re: [ilugd] Meeting 20050907

2005-09-07 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> On 9/7/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 4. Roshan Agrawal will be getting poster put at colleges in NOIDA and
> > Ghaziabad.
> 
> Hi,
> I would like to put up 2 posters at my office. Roshan, how can i have
> them from you? Probably from Vivek...?

I, too, would like to put up a poster or two at my office (and
probably my friends' offices as well). From whom should I collect them
(one they are printed, that is!) ?

Also, I am interested in being involved in designing the poster. Few
of my logo designs can be found at
http://geocities.com/sau_nanda/logos.html I have also designed a
couple of posters for my college's Techfest.

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Re: [ilugd] freedel.in site, first-cut

2005-09-05 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> http://www.vivekkhurana.com/freedel/ perhaps?

Probably you could modify the colour scheme to contain more of blues
and yellows so that the Freedel logo could 'gel into' the site in a
better way, rather than looking like somone's just 'pasted' it there!

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Re: [ilugd] Unable to post messages to list

2005-08-31 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> The messages's content type was not explicitly allowed

Just guessing - are you trying to send HTML mail, or probably sending
out an attachment with the mail?

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Re: [ilugd] OT - The Mythical Man Month - Views/reviews?

2005-08-28 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0201835959/qid=1125071880/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0902131-6900610?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> 
> A little googling and looking around would be more informative. Finding
> the above link took just about 7 seconds.

I'm irritated with these kinds of replies... I'll write a blog entry
about it sometimes...

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Re: [ilugd] First-cut talks shortlist

2005-08-26 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Creative
> Niyam Bhushan
> Creative

More details? Probably the full title of the talk?

> Non-Geek Experiences with Linux
> Renuka Sane
> Ecosystem
> 

This should be really interesting :-)

> Pantoto
> Dinesh
> NGO

More details? Probably the full title of the talk? What's Pantoto?

> GIS mapping for tsunami rehabilitation work
> Raj Ganesh
> NGO

This should be interesting too!

> FES Migration and Adoption of FOSS
> Ramnarayan K
> NGO

What's FES?


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Re: [ilugd] First-cut talks shortlist

2005-08-26 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Who has the permissions to post on the Freedel blog? Please put up the
list on the blog!

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Re: [ilugd] First-cut talks shortlist

2005-08-26 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> linux-delhi.org.  The file is named talks-stripped.sxc (it's in
> OpenOffice spreadsheet format).  Should be approved and available for
> download soon.

Could you please upload in text/PDF/HTML format as well!

TIA
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[ilugd] OT - The Mythical Man Month - Views/reviews?

2005-08-25 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

I've just ordered this "classic" from firstandsecond.com - and can't
wait for them to deliver it... in the meantime... anyone out there
who's already read it? View/reviews?

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Re: [ilugd] Call For Papers: ILUGD event in September

2005-08-25 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Has a sufficient number of talks been short-listed?

Any publically available list of talks that have been shortlisted/submitted?

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Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> (Oh, and please disabuse yourself of the notion that only women are put
> off by crass behaviour. There do exist men who don't think respectful
> behaviour is "special treatment.")

Okay... brings me back to the point - other than making fun of them
when they specifically ask for special treatment... what other kinds
of disrespectful behaviour takes place on the mailing list?

Instead of taking potshots at me, could you actually list out such
"disrespectful" behaviour on the mailing list which causes such a less
number of women to participate online?

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Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions

2005-08-23 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> again for you kind information kindly go to
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/

Been there... read that. Not at all informative. The regular
run-of-the-mill stuff!

> >I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women
> >unfriendly atmosphere there.
> >
> So don't comment

Dude - you're worse that me in nitpicking and starting flame wars. I
suddenly feel better!

> Sure - wonder if women around you in the wrok place feel comfortable ???
> 
> I am not a woman but I am not sure if I would be comfortable working
> with people with such insensitive and limited attitudes

Way too much extrapolation here.

Just so that I don't get labelled an 'insensitive clod' - here goes:

At my institude (college, university, whatever) - I tried initiating a
LUG. Though the whole thing died within a couple of meets (the group
was man *and* woman unfriendly, I guess, he he :-) I noticed something
in the first meet.

There were some men and women who had come to the first meet just for
the heck of it... they wanted to see what's going on, etc.

There was one girl, whom I knew, was interested in Linux, and was very
enthusiastic in participating in the LUG. She didn't speak up in the
first meet, nor in the second - even after being prompted/prodded to
raise her opinion/voice. Then she stopped coming.

What more does one need to do? Fall on our knees and beg to the
females all around the world - "PLEASE! Bless us with your benign
presence and opinions"... why can't they just behave "normally" rather
than having special interest groups and movements, etc. etc.

A LUG meet is not a godforsaken place where they're opressed, beaten
up, harassed, sexually assaulted, etc. etc. Why the special treatment
there? Just organize meets at earthly hours and places, so that
females can make it (Delhi is not a nice place to go back late in the
night!)

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Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions

2005-08-23 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> 1. If you reall want a woman in here f**king stop treating them like woman
> and treat them like other human beings.

> 2. If Women really think this is helping please look back, it only makes
> us think you want special treatment

THE most sensible post on the thread!

Stop asking for 'special treatment' and start behaving normally. Nnow,
please, don't go off on a tangent with the argument that 'normal'
behaviour is too manly and woman unfriendly, etc. etc. Men & women
have differences which should be resepected. Move on.

Start turning up for meetings. Things will change automagically. 

Btw - I attended only one ILUG-d meet @ Sarai. That was about 4-5
years back. Have not been able to attend any meeting since then... is
this group "Saurabh Nanda unfriendly?" Probably I should write a HOWTO
on how to make Linux Users Group Saurabh Nanda friendly!

Did you find that joke offensive? (PS: On second thoughts it's a bad
joke... real bad :-p)

There's only one 'feminist' I've met in my entire life who's agreed to
the fact that women ask for wy too much special treatment. She's
fed up of it herself. That's exactly what's happening here. (PS:
http://jayajha.blogspot.com)

I've been on this list for some time now... and I just can't fathom
what exactly it is that stops females from joining and participating
in discussion on the *mailing list*! sheesh.. it's just a mailing
list!!

I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women
unfriendly atmosphere there.

Rant stops here... go back to work and be more productive.

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Re: [ilugd] Ad Blockers for Linux

2005-08-22 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> If you are using Firefox then have a look at Adblock extenstion and load
> a filterset from Filterset.G (http://www.pierceive.com/)

Thanks... it worked!

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[ilugd] Ad Blockers for Linux

2005-08-21 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

Any ad blocking software which runs out of the box for Linux?
Preferably available as a Debian package!

I'm on a Reliance connection and man, it's SLOW!!

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Re: [ilugd] Using Graphical Interface using ssh on networked machines

2005-08-11 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> (The xhost is unnecessary, and the export is wrong, but the idea is
> exactly right. :)

Eh? did I mess up something? Why is the export wrong?

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Re: [ilugd] Using Graphical Interface using ssh on networked machines

2005-08-10 Thread Saurabh Nanda
You could use something called SSH X Forwarding... I forget the exact
name right now.

The good-ol' method is:

host1$ xhost +host2
host1$ ssh host2

host2$ export DISPLAY="host1:0"
host2$ gimp

Hope you get it... mail back if you want a detailed explanation.

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Re: [ilugd] unable to mount floopy from linux user side

2005-08-10 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> what I tries here : to put one entry in /etc/mtab file like this

You are not supposed to edit /etc/mtab. It is updated by mount
automatically each time a filesystem is mounted/unmounted.

> So please tell me from which file, I can make the system to mount the
> floopy from the user imdps account.

try the following command from user imdps:

imdps$ mount -tvfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floopy

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Re: [ilugd] Wanted Reliance Data Cable for a Day

2005-08-08 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> the speed is not that great - in Bangalore I get 6Kbps.  However, the

Is that kilo *bytes* per second, or kilo *bits* per second?

I've already spent some money on RAM and have a Reliance WLL landline
@ home. I don't want to spend more money on installation costs of
Airtel/Tata Indycom/BSNL. Thus I'll go in for Reliance if it's decent
for surfing, chatting, remote administration of servers, and an
occasional dowload of tarballs!

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Re: [ilugd] Wanted Reliance Data Cable for a Day

2005-08-08 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi Puneet,

Thanks a lot!

I don't remember the exact model of my phone (it's a WLL landline
though). I'll go home and check it and let you know!

How's the speed?

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[ilugd] Wanted Reliance Data Cable for a Day

2005-08-08 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

Anyone in or near Gurgaon who can lend me his/her Reliance Data Cable
for a day? Basically I want to check whether it works with Linux and
the transfer speeds.

First hand reviews about RConnect with Linux are welcome!

TIA
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Re: [ilugd] mozilla web browser jvm enabled?

2005-07-14 Thread Saurabh Nanda
You could probably type "about:plugins" in the URL bar and see for yourself.

Nandz.

On 14 Jul 2005 15:37:29 +0530, Pardeep Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is our  Mozilla web browser  JVM(Java virtual machine) enabled by
> default or we  have to enable it ??
> 
> -Pardeep
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[ilugd] ESR says "GPL should be dead"

2005-07-06 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Eric S. Raymond (ESR) is harping about the community not really
needing GPL any more.

Complete interview at:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html?page=last&x-showcontent=text

What do others think? Especially people who work in companies dealing
with open source products? Or people whose companies are evaluating
deploying Linux based solutions? Does GPL do more harm than what it
tries to protect?

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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> While individual packages can be freely copied, the total distribution
> is supposed to be under a separate independent compilation effort, which
> Redhat is restricting to paid customers.

Which I think is a fair deal. Redhat can retain its revenue sources
but doesn't end up compromising the open nature of its software.
People can still look into the hood and tinker with individual parts
of the entire system but can't earn off Redhat's efforts.

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Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality

2005-07-06 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Does anyone know if what they are doing is legal or not ?

I don't know the exact licensing agreement for SuSE Linux, but Redhat
has something like this:

All their work (or almost all) is GPLed. That means you get the four
freedoms on the code. BUT the trademarks and logos are not freely
distributable. The extract from RHL 9's EULA sums it up -

"THE "RED HAT" TRADEMARK, THE "BLUECURVE" TRADEMARK AND RED HAT'S
SHADOW MAN LOGO ARE REGISTERED TRADEMARKS OF RED HAT, INC. IN THE
UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. WHILE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT ALLOWS
YOU TO COPY, MODIFY AND DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE, IT DOES NOT PERMIT
YOU TO DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE UTILIZING RED HAT'S TRADEMARKS."

So, you may copy the entire CD and redistribute it but you can't call
it a Redhat product. You have to remove all Redhat logos and
trademarks before redistribtuion. This effectively nullifies any brand
equity that you might get from redistributing a 'Redhat product' per
se.

I hope I've made this subtle point clear.

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[ilugd] Printing a LARGE pdf

2005-07-05 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Hi,

I've unsuccessfully tried to print the 'Cable Wallah' article from the
ILUGD downloads section.
(http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/download.cgi?action=fileDownload&dId=69)

The PDF is not split into pages, its one single continuing document.
Can the original author please upload the original document, upload a
PDF split up into pages, or tell me how to print this document on
mutliple pages? (I'm in my office and am on a Windows PC.)

TIA
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Re: [ilugd] About rsync command

2005-07-05 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Try using the 'netstat' command to check active connections. I would use:

$ netstat -al|less

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> can anybody answer my question?
> my ques is-
> if i m doing rsync from remote server 'say A' to my server that means
> transfer data from remote server to my server
> and rsync command is running on my computer
>  than is it possible to check on remote server(A) that data is going outside
> or something is rsync'ed from that(A) server
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Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days

2005-07-03 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> 1. ILUGD Monthly Meet

Does anyone minute these meetings? Are the presentations/reading
material archives somewhere?

I'm new to the list so excuse me if I'm asking redundant questions.

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